- 08 December 2024 (82 messages)
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Csv available. All prices are estimates pulled from the API and might not be floor, but probably value whatever that is
The more you buy the more you save. I'm taking a big dump.
As soon as I can do atomic swaps it's going on chain
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT8rHpbykrD0IS-RRNyeBpKO1hTitZOlixa5s7UuXpEOwFP6VkrflbmzTPlXaVETju7M8YJlXRtPKd2/pubhtml -
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i’ll buy some xcp or pepecash off you if you have
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What’s the floor on MRTALPHA?
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it can just be market rate, i don’t need a deal
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I'm really not looking to give people a discount on trade pairs. Stack after that and it's kind of whack. I'm looking at selling a $10,000 rare Pepe for $4,000
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Glass
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no yeah i didn’t mean at a discount, just meant market prices
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understandable, i’m on the same page lol
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Send That CONFETTI to Victor
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How much for all the danks in there?
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It's the next level up. It's the ceiling where we stand
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BLKSWANYE in there
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the CORNFETTI? yeah i’ll take that why not
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- 09 December 2024 (75 messages)
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so replay protection is live (sort of) but the networks aren’t completely separate because classic dispenses have no network prefix at all, so some dispenses on upgraded counterparty will appear on classic lol
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jdog assured me that this is the intended behavior
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Is counterparty down rn?
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yep
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i am sure they’ll have a hotfix soon
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Wen test suite?
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They have one, have you ever written software?
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No I build buildings. None of them have fallen down
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Its logs all the way down
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lol what a mess… which I’m sure was his intention all along
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Too worried about stack comments on both sides is topkek
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Just a reminder that jdog didn’t have a working test suite in counterparty for the 8 years he maintained it.
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Well he didn’t write any code so that is the best way to have no bugs
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(of course, the network also crashed multiple times even though he only wrote 100 lines of code in 8 years). So let’s say a network crash for every 50 lines of jdog code
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Less code is more though. That's how I understood it.
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there’s a limit to that - it’s one thing to be concise, it’s another thing to to write one page double spaced of code in 8 years. In that case less code is less
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100 sounds like a lot then
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? what do you mean?
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You said he had 100 lines
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I am a software engineer and that’s probably one medium productive day for me
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That's over 10 a year
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10 lines of text a year? stack does 10 lines of text in 15 seconds
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All quality
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Cool, go use classic for more quality
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Adam can't keep up
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Nah
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I'm not a user
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Ibuse counterparty
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And freewallet
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Love it
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yeah, so you like adam’s network better
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Yes
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I've been clear about that
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For sure, then I am not sure what your point is. Is it just, “no bug, only feature”?
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And I've said many times that, your misunderstanding is fundamental
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Meh
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I'm not even using it today
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I mentioned it, everyone lost their mind again
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Yes and then you followed up with “If you have to have it explained to you then you’ll never understand”, without even saying what i am misunderstanding
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Jdog!!!!!!
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I dont care much
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But Adam is a poor leader
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You love his software though. So does jdog
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Yes
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I literally just said that
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This, kek
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Drop sol addy for tost
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Do you HAB?
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I’m pretty sure Q is pro stamps.. you can quote me on that
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You don’t really see the mafia going round saying that they’re the mafia do ya? They kind of avoid the subject. I would imagine that’s the same sort of thing with Q anon.. although you know I wouldn’t like to speculate.
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"Stamps" was a great name
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Who coined it?
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Italian Gangster mob threatens Streamer Iceposeidon
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I think @mikeinspace
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Historical
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Brilliant
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I wonder if they will ever be used to verify messages or give some other approval
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Yes.
Secure
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Magic Eden on Bitcoin 🟧 (@MEonBTC) on X
$ME is coming tomorrow. Users will be able to seamlessly swap $ME <> BTC using @MagicEdenWallet from day 1. The Xchain economy is coming to Bitcoin.
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Magic Eden with their own Xchain
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Whats the xchain economy?
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Did they confuse xchain with counterparty overall?
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Plus xchain is not counterparty anymore I think
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lol, incredible
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They need to avoid ico legality
- 10 December 2024 (6 messages)
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Doubt it. Xchain is such a generic term its been used multiple times in crypto. Just like Freewallet.
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Cross-chain economy
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- 11 December 2024 (17 messages)
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was thinking about this and it should only be the case for currently open dispensers, also a counterparty dispense will not dispense the asset from a counterparty classic dispenser and vice versa regardless of the prefix
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yes it looks like this is right, when i look at the differences in what dispenses are being replayed on the classic ledger, it's only the dispenses from dispensers that were opened before 873000. the dispenses from dispensers opened after 873000 are the ones missing from the classic ledger.
not following the second sentence. it's true replaying is only from the main ledger onto the classic ledger, and not vice versa, but new dispenses on old dispensers are replayed on the classic ledger -
stack's classic dispensers lol. no takers yet
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Hi Joe, I have several open dispensers. Is it really important that I close them or will they still operate as before?
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The most recent one is over a year old
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Yes, Classic has the bug that caused the crash (the indexes in those two transaction types, Enchanced Send, and MPMA transactions, are set incorrectly) but not the transaction that triggered the failure, which uses a new feature.
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It seems our COC is vulnerable to being blocked
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this doesnt make sense because prior to activation of the dispenser message requirement i tested a dispense with the op_return and it was invalid
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whats up dante! hope all is well. i would say if you see any value at all in counterparty classic then pull those assets out of the dispensers by simply dispensing them yourself using bitcoin only with no op_return, then regardless of whether the replay protection is activated those dispensers will only contain counterparty assets and not counterparty classic assets, if you dont care about counterparty classic then dont bother doing anything
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this is all i am talking about:
https://classic.tokenscan.io/tx/5f507a7860bc1a87bcdff444700fba5a29d683184d31824f4538782523299997
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Hope all is well with you Joe. Is there a good reason for caring about hanging on to classic? The assets I have are from before the devs returned.
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personally i dont see it amounting to much
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The provenance that goes back to the first proof of burn transaction is worth more than the few sats saved.
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I think that would have been used against the upgrade bigly
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It’s 5 bytes, not gonna make or break anything
- 12 December 2024 (47 messages)
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Look at the amounts paid
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counterparty classic sees the first output as valid and counterparty sees the 3rd output or first after the dispense opreturn message
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but these are transactions initiated by users on the main ledger that have impacts on balances on the COC ledger right? or no
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this would be a valid COC tx
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it would just look at the first output and ignore the rest just like classic
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yeah, in order to actually have complete replay protection, he would have had to explicitly ignore dispense messages containing the cntrprty prefix (or something else to explicitly ignore valid main chain dispenses) in order to be logically consistent with his demand that adam once again make it possible to trigger dispenses from bitcoin wallets that aren’t counterparty-aware. So instead the replay protection is not complete. Poetic
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it demonstrates the exact issue adam was solving by adding a message
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first output comes as OP_Return if used cp compatible wallet:
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https://mempool.space/tx/40ffb0b8fc8b89ee43f3feb94cec0f9ee2bb481eb7df01ffe062fb60943759c5
0.0012 paid, but then they take 3rd output and shows as dispense for 0.000036
https://tokenscan.io/tx/2ea61652be92e5b578e31bad7745c97cbcf0c45940dd8b0572fa10eb8c368eeb
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What happened
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I see a dispense 0.000036
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This one is interesting, is this post replay protection activation?
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I think what may have happened is prior to jdog changing the prefix dispenses with the dispense message were invalid because it would see the message as counterparty but the contents were invalid so the entire tx became invalid
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But now it checks the opreturn, doesn’t see a counterparty message at all and continues with the dispense
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So with regard to dispenses the replay protection actually made it unprotected lol
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Replay unprotection
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Thats 40 bits!
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IIRC a big justification for the dispenser message header addition was ‘AddrIndexrs performance issues’ due to examining all transactions. Juan solved the addrindexrs problem long ago, jdog may have too? Therefore a permanent solution was provided for a temporary problem.
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Another big justification was users regularly losing assets with accidental dispenses
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- 13 December 2024 (148 messages)
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no, the issue was that dispenses werent labeled as counterparty txs as is the convention for all other counterparty txs, this causes issues going forward such as the replay protection/unprotection in counterparty classic. the addrindex issue is that it became a consensus critical part of the stack when the software itself is non-deterministic which has the potential to create accidental forks between nodes (as well as adds another piece of software that has to be maintained, etc)
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i dont know what you mean wrt "Juan solved addrindexrs" that doesnt make any sense at all
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Horizon Explorer
Horizon Explorer by Unspendable Labs
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when i asked of why EDS has changed the images they said "because some players asked" :DDDDDDDDD
after explaining them that they are dumb as fuck, they finally rolled back the images to the ORIGINAL as they should be. but i see explorers taking data from the ass and now it is even worse... because we have two different data on to them. this raises a red flag - not to trust. -
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Horizon Explorer
Horizon Explorer by Unspendable Labs
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They changed the image so many times that even themself can't remember which one is the "real" one.
the reason of why they changed satoshicard image to "gold frame" was:
"it looks better in game and players like to see stats on the card"
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
whahhahhahhshahahahhahah
they are fucking retarded. i don't care how many hours they work a day, all what they do is just a wasting of time and burning capital of investors. fuck them all -
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Horizon Explorer
Horizon Explorer by Unspendable Labs
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The ONLY team who are capable to do the right thing every time is : SCARCE CITY
Aryan even sent me some money for showing of how and when i can make their website to crash. i enjoy trying to penetrate the code and when someone sends me reward of doing that- it makes me motivated. it makes it more fun.
this is a great example of what other CP teams should do.
Put some money on the table, and the guys like me will solve ALL the issues. EVERY ISSUE will be solved in ONE DAY.
instead of giving 1 million to jdog we could have had "bounty pool" and today we would be living a better times. but no... we gave ALL the money to a SINGLE PERSON that doesnt work at all.
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most fun part is that i can make FW to crash in about 1.5 seconds, one right click with mouse and one left click. maybe a second if i click fast.
thats how much time i need to get in to error. one fucking second lol.
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one freaking second. two errors.
1. i didn't had opportunity to enter amount before the error has popped.
2. i didn't had opportunity to enter address before the error has popped.
i would understand that i was sending zero to nowhere, then yeah, they could have shown me those "errors" but now.... that is just fcuking ridiculous -
+ unnecessary API call. and later they rate limit people because they "click too fast". Who have asked them to send that call on the empty fields. ME? no fuck. they did this without me pressing anything or having opportunity to press anything.
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it looks like the SOG have two links in the data, a "vintageImgUrl" and an ImgUrl, and tokenscam picks the vintage one and doesn't give you the option to see the normal one
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Yeah it’s a weird trick I’ve never liked particularly given that there’s no indication that this is happening. Was funny about a year ago when TEST got the stamps green banner and lost its art temporarily because we used “test” in our JSON.
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I’ve mentioned this about Horizon as well. I understand the need to display art which is the social consensus for a token. But there should be an indication (like a small icon or something) when something is displayed from an offchain source.
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it is sort of indicated by the fact that it shows the json contents with the image urls
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whereas i don’t actually see anywhere on tokenscam that it shows that?
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(other than looking at the image source)
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I mean in a human-readable way. Also presence of a string isn’t definitive either. Some Rare Pepes have strings that are broken if you follow them but are superseded by the social consensus image
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NAHUAL
Is a shapeshifter. the json file has linked to the correct image for some time. It functioned on x-chain token scam before Jeremy removed the right to repair like he's John Deere. I just don't think horizon understands on a deeper level what's going on in order to prioritize things that matter to the heavy users -
this is all just working around the problem with nfts that aren’t inscribed into the ledger. Turning a “non-definitive string” into a non-definitive little warning isn’t any different
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How much XCP price has to be on classic for Dog and his trolls to start buying it? :DDD
0.75$ still too much?
nobody is using classic lol, the F they forked it? anyone has any idea? :D
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Counterparty is barely used, why would anyone assume a fork of it would have any immediate value? Maybe 100 people in the world have a clue it exists
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Emblem putting counterparty on eth had the opposite effect that people think it has
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only the thing that they have power to confiscate assets is nonsense. but from one side , "nonsense" is the most common "asset" of CP
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If vaults never happened, we'd already have better tools
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Money grabbers loved it
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They know not what they do
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Was a lovely arbitrage opportunity for awhile there. Buy something on a dispenser, throw it in a vault and sell it for 10x on OpenSea to ETH degens who don’t know better
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cmon stack, you know better than most that the token is the art
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yeah its just easier to wrap their heads around if they art is "on-chain"
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buy and selling art is to appreciate the absurdity of life
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People quibble about technical details (what’s right what’s wrong) as if this isn’t all made up. We’re selling dreams here. Narrative matters more than technical efficiency.
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exactly, we take for granted the technical parts that make everything work (bearer assets on bitcoin) and then argue about the technical parts that dont matter (image storage)
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wow i never thought about it. hopefully this will make me less upset
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"dont matter" meaning its not a difficult technical problem, clearly how images are stored matters to a lot of people
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this whole time stack thought the tokens were IN the computer
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it would be funny to create a sort of DIY counterparty fork generator
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everyone gets their own prefix
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Jam it full of base64: the prefix is the art
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i would take "spaghetti:"
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sounds delicious
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Dispenser just opened up. That's a nice one.
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Someone found their seedphrase. 10 yr asset. 2 hodlers
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It's hidden. No one advertising such assets as they come
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Thanks to you though for bumping it
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Stamped.ninja is nice for that. There's a banner that highlights fresh Dispensers
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Not hidden in a table, behind a filter
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But that's an issue where the space crossed Explorer/marketplace
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Marketplace is nice to encourage trades. Highlight users and creations
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but you can see new dispensers on every explorer
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But there's a distinction between Explorer and a marketplace
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https://tokenscan.io/asset/NIKKOLE
one more. the list would continue. if i would be buying i would be buying the oldest and most cheap assets that has no errors in images (almost all effortless AI art has errors). thats what i would be buying. but first i need to sell some xcp, pepecash, BCY and etc to do that lol. -
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https://tokenscan.io/asset/CANDIES
finally found a fairmint issued on 9 year old CLEAN name with 650$ market cap and that the artwork doesnt have errors. -
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and this movie clip above was given free to the asset https://tokenscan.io/asset/FAKECEZANNE holders
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Fairmint pro?
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Elon Musk (@elonmusk) on X
@SmallPettingZoo Seriously 😂 And the penalty for too many clicks/sec is you get executed immediately! I think this will get patched.
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- 14 December 2024 (9 messages)
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Looks $fake
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Telegram knows who’s top
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How dare you
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Plead the fifth. 👀👀
- 15 December 2024 (1 messages)
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- 16 December 2024 (188 messages)
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.80 cent now, even with 100 sat less discount. seller very generous
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lol
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one thing about replay protection that is supposedly enabled. theres a weird function where stamps are still dispensing on /coc , even though stamp platforms and wallets are using the prefix ---- but when it comes to the dispensing of the "XCP" asset /coc knows which one to index
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3rd dispenser was 200 at 0.000075
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did someone actually buy the 200 from you? did you get paid?
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i really can’t tell because the dispensers have no dispenses
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Congratulations
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and if you question his code he bans you
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i know this 😂
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ok so floor price is 75 cents?
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of course, just because that explorer show random things man
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if anyone complains. he should be offering the refund, something about code integrity
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his ego never let him to solve at least one issue
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lol, i guess because it comes from cexes and no one is selling classic?
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nobody believes in it i guess, not even developer himself
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I have thousands of classic xcp, i just tried to get anyone to buy it for any amount and there were no takers
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the definition of not putting your money where your mouth is
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they just talk
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i mean jdog is putting in zero effort so as long as he is willing to keep paying server fees to make a point i guess
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yeah i should really just through it in the burn address trash
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i just don’t trust jdogs software so i get nervous the replay protection doesn’t actually work and ill lose my main ledger assets
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Who does all the advertising for JDogs fork?
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Almost all it's mentions are from 2.0
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can take 20 too
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looks like Jdog mentions it every time anyone opens tokenscan.io
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so yeah i still think Jdog is talking about it the most
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talks
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i just went to try and sell my classic XCP so i go to import my seed to freewallet classic, And freewallet classic is like sure no problem.
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Then it shows zero balances everywhere lol
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thats the derivation path...
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cool, yeah it’s not anywhere under the first 10 segwit addresses
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it does!
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ok thanks!
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yes thank you stack
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I believe the original claim was that you can import your private key. Not seed
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If I had more time on my hands I would hop on classic and register such legendary token names as GETOFFMYLAWN
First thing I would do is clear out my entire pre-fork wallet out into another wallet dedicated specifically for classics so that I have absolutely no chance of replay -
yep stack helped me, i'm good. i am waiting for him to try and sell his xcp before i sell a huge amount
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let's hope they clear it out, I'm team Stack getting paid
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https://classic.tokenscan.io/tx/a62ad64b258ec98fd98a163411e16c7e6ad75daf060baf8a3fba64e1a0825ada
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I mean for all the debugging and errors he finds on Xchain and freewallet....you'd think there would be some kind of bounty
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stack would be a rich man in that case. But i think we’d all be happier if jdog just even fixed bug reports at all
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You could quit your job. Just file Freewallet bugs full time
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I just realized how grateful I am to have replay protection so that in the upcoming months, when xchained platform launches totally, I'll be able to create buttons on classic and up-to-date counterparty as well as a plethora of other chains like Doge
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it appears i have been led to the back back side backroom
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so many of my favorite people here
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You might get banned from other rooms, for appearing in this room.
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Welcome 🐸
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$fake
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i like living on the risky side