- 30 December 2024 (871 messages)
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can you just say what you didnt like
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He wouldn't say Jeremy's name for the first few minutes I thought it was really dumb
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why would someone say his name lol?
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sounds like a troubling few minutes
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No not a specific quote without scrolling back into the months past
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this is the reason you say hes a bad leader? cause he didnt address jdog in a couple minutes of a spaces?
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A reason
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It showed weakness
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lol, this all seems quite petty
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All?
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yes your reasons so far for saying adam is not good
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Is he doing a great job?
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I only gave one
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You called it the and all
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on what chain?
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Is he the best counterparty has ever seen?
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maintainer? yes
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Is Adam and amazing communicator?
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most devs arent, i dont expect they will be generally
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Low expectations are not my strong point
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i dint knew developers need to be good communicators lol
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IMO you have to pick between spending all day on telegram or writing code. Jdog picks telegram, adam picks code
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what makes jdog a good leader?
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The leader of this protocol should be a good communicator
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He's not the leader
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lol cmon, we havent had that ever
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and it makes no sense, because what adam is is maintainer
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just as jdog was maintainer
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why are you looking for leaders?
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because you want to follow?
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the maintainer decides what is pushed to master
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node runners decide whether to run latest version
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this is blockchain
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yep, which is why everyone is running the latest version, even jdog
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the version that empowers users
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as opposed to classic which is run by a single person
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i think jdog havent done a single classic tx yet
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if they didnt agree they wouldnt run it
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thats whats so confusing about the fork
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you dont have to like, sorry i wasnt responding to that portion of your post
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if you agree, you run
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the other day we were talking and accepting guesses
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Is there a decision with the protocol that you disagree with ?
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i think jdog likes to play the martyr and his fork helps him draw that out as long as possible
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who are you suggesting?
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there is no time to talk for developer lol
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counterparty benefits from adam as maintainer
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and i dont think there's anyone else that exists that would do a better job as maintainer
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maybe the idealistic vision of this perfect dev/communicator would be better but thats just fantasy
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he is good for everyone around i agree
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what
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who are you referring to?
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i also think adam is just not spending a lot of time or effort on communication right now, because he’s working 80 hours a week
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adam seems pretty even keel and level headed
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Any sane person would go insane trying to talk on telegram all day. You can’t win. No matter how good of a “communicator” someone may be, everyone in these chats would still hate them. You can’t win in telegram, no point trying to communicate here.
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in my experience is open to constructive criticism in all the conversations ive had with him
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Correct
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its because of the bad moderation unfortunately
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maybe you will too?
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Instead of working 80+ hours on the protocol he should direct his attention here….?
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yeah we gotta step it up, i agree
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keep trying
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dont be afraid to mute and ban, nothing is permanent if someone really wants to contribute they will DM and have a conversation about it
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if all they wanted to do was troll then good to have them gone
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you notice ive never complained about heavy moderation in jdogs counterparty group
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its his group, he can moderate however he wants
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Loool
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im a firm believer in ban early, ban often, always have been
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like if i was in a bar and some drunk was harassing everyone id expect the staff to throw them out
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otherwise it wouldnt be a very good bar
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i would have def muted you at least once by now
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Yeah, I guess I was trying to navigate the FUD of people talking about censorship, but obviously they lied about it anyways even if it wasn’t happening
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they have no problem moderating their own chat
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yeah you’re right it’s another mind game
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Mute should be practiced more, over ban hammer.
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are you? i posted in the other group if anyone had questions about psbts and didnt get any response
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with constructive criticism
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i actually prefer bans to muting but obviously every mod does things their own way
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But at least bring forward a proposal and not just bashing and trolling
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Some users just need a timeout.
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if you have a question go ahead and ask it
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yep, bans work for that too
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yes this is a favorite of the PP Pals
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asking what?
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Come back when you've calmed down
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Haha
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just go ahead and ask
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Yeah we talked about the technical details to the best of my abilities earlier on, that was not when you started posting Q gifs and demanding my addy (again)
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I will mute you next time
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Appreciate the advice of experienced mods
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should i just forward the entire chat sequence for you to go back and reread what happened
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its not like the dex at all, do you have any questions you still need answered to understand it
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you have an opportunity right now to ask
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lol so whats the problem
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like are you actually interested in learning why its a good thing or no
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im trying to answer your question LB
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do you have an actual question
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or are you just proving everyones point that you're just trolling
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I was trying to understand pbst
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why would you need to defend yourself?
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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alright long branch, please circle where you were asking important questions about psbts
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if you were asking how psbts worked
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please circle where you asked about psbts long branch
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Obviously i recognize this as a failure of my moderation, i should have just muted or banned you as soon as you ignored the warning
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the psbt conversation was on a different day and ended fine
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its a thankless job, but i think experiencing a lack of moderation is good cause it just reinforces how important it is
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Yeah i just have to remember almost no one wants to see that shit and avoiding ‘censorship’ just makes everyone have a terrible time when people are being assholes
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please forward the message. who is they? what did they say?
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looks like you started it
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should i screencap that conversation too?
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This is so funny because longbranch has every opportunity to get an actual question answered yet just continues to play the victim
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No he has a thick skin
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He’s not a victim he is strong
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he would absolutely ignore a chat like this if it was about him, it’s only because it’s about jdog that he’s obsessed with it
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Lol
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No he was already talking here when everyone else showed up
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back to the nonsense because it’s too accurate
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Branch and jdog are just two sigmas that pave their own way and don’t care what anyone thinks. The masters and makers of their own destiny.
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Well, I don't know what I'd do if I had a free service and it was being used to gangstalk me. I have thick skin though
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It’s amazing how much you can say without saying anything at all
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One day we will figure out why longbranch is here, but i appreciated this convo tonight
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Just a misunderstood sigma paving his own way
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Creative criticism of a protocol and tooling that maybe explored.
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Just being self centered to think it's about a person
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Introspection is not your strong suit
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You’re very concerned with how others act yet when other confront you with how you’re acting you deflect
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This is very common among the PP pals
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Hahaha where do we find the “blood letting gamma vampire narcissists jdog jack off sphere.” Group ? Sounds fkn hilarious especially if gmoney is the king of the group.
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Honestly a pretty good description of the old counterparty chat
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that cesspool is deffo not worth reading. Thought there was a new new one I was missing out on for the lols. But I’m sure Mike would have tweeted that one
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yeah i will moderate all that out next time
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Once you’re banned i am sure we will turn them back on
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Arguably not very good jack off material
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Ha. This was not a fight invitation. You always talk about vampires so told you to meet me at what they call a vampire bar in Nola where all the fangbangers hang. Joke flew over your head clearly.
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The COC genesis meetup spot?
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Nola is not bad in garden district or going to the quarter occasionally but it largely is not great, I agree. I typically hang at the casino mostly when I’m there.
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yeah i personally don’t want anyone going at each other in that chat, it is a bad vibe for what should be a place to get important information. Most people don’t want to see bickering
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Not really welcoming or a nice ambassadors to the space when outside devs, looking to build or collaborate join select rooms.
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Anyone thinking about the fact that the X gpu super computer cluster is moving petabytes per second? And the new data center in Singapore is 4x the capacity with 100,000 gpus each interconnected with 8x 800gb/s synchronous bandwidth between all gpus? And the fact that o1 training was already trying to escape? Especially when told it would be replaced by future models and it acted to preserve itself?
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It's quiet difficult 100% keeping it clean but allowing discussions
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i’ve kept it super professional in there for months, that is why you keep bringing up this 35 person chat when you demand to speak to the manager
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It's bound to happen eventually. Or at least test humanities reaction
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Pretty wild stuff
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Imagine if Star, or CZ joined the room. Lol they'd be like wtf
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after the space, i apologized for communicated sarcastically and then i stopped
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^ not a victim
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KarenBranch
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just another day for a sigma
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You were proposing a solution where there would be a consensus protocol outside of the bitcoin blockchain. I understand you felt condescended to when I said that counterparty txes are on bitcoin but that is just a factual reason why the proposal would not work
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This is the perfect chance to ask your question to Joe Looney
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You can gain information from someone more knowledgeable than me
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I can go into more detail but the network configuration is that each counterparty node hangs off a bitcoin node. There is no communication directly with other counterparty nodes
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Nah man, you got offended when i said counterparty is a metaprotocol
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I was under the assumption of a shared order book like that which would be super cool for marketplaces to share psbt’s but that’s a little too decentralized I guess
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whatever, i really think that you’re being EXTREMELY sensitive if you felt like my behavior there was unprofessional
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i think that makes a lot of sense as a separate service. It’s not / doesn’t need to be consensus critical so it’s reasonable to keep it out of core
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Doing this for stamps stuff so happy to contribute
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ahhh ok is this related to the conspiracy theory that horizon created utxo binding to facilitate their secret atomic swap market?
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the claim that they arent decentralized and whatnot
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i posted a psbt on twitter for the first atomic swap on counterparty
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also javier of firemints is working on an open protocol for sharing them
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Yeah more stuff will come, counterparty core isn’t the right place for it, it will just make everything slower, more expensive, and more fragile
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It’s more like a public api service
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Oh cool now we have two open protocols for it on stamps haha
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yeah, you could write something that runs in a container alongside counterparty-core, but there are reasons you might want a service to handle your psbts
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for example, not revealing them until the tx is complete, then i dont have to spend that utxo to cancel the order
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yes for sure
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i think this is hard for people to understand when they're used to the dex
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and easier price discovery, relist without paying two extra big transaction fees. better liquidity overall
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yes
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i totally get that
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lol
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impossible
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im sorry i tried to have a convo with you LB
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i feel like continuing not to require any public connectivity for counterparty core is important. I would never open a port on my home network
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so it could be a sidecar service but why?
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it would be totally functional as a separate api server
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one that is intended to be publically reachable etc
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OpenOrdex - Open Ordinals Decentralized Exchange
OpenOrdex is an open source zero-fee trustless Bitcoin NFT marketplace based on partially signed bitcoin transactions
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its up to users where they want to post their psbts
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thats just how it works
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but yeah evan and adam posted the best responses to this question in the horizon market chat
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This is similar to something I was trying to explain to fren. Bringing a light weight public orderbook.
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Like a little post it for sale board at the local grocery store
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But then it evolved to something way more
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Pumped to see how it all turns out once all said and done.
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yes there’s nothing stopping that from existing in the future, doesn’t need to be in counterparty core
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I concur.
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and if it doesn’t need to be it shouldn’t because that comes with a lot of drawbacks
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we already know it works, ordinals marketplaces run on psbt atomic swaps and they have about $5mil daily volume https://www.theblock.co/data/nft-non-fungible-tokens/marketplaces/ordinals-marketplace-volumesOrdinals Marketplace Volumes
The daily volume of Bitcoin Ordinals on NFT marketplaces that support the trading of them.
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Oh idk i am not a visionary or a counterparty dev
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so the fact that counterparty can access this liquidity now, is great for the ecosystem
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but PP pals just fud it
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makes no sense
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it is a bummer
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will build it either way, but it def feels less fun than it used to
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Anything less than XP becoming Q’s new stock market system is a let down for them. Adam was rumored to be Q initially or on Q’s team and when they found Adam to be indifferent to there ideas it was all down hill from there.
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G money said it
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On his team not Q himself
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Seems like I struck a nerve
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Also sex violence is mean telling you suck it? Really?
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It’s a big circle talking with you.
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Prove it
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You can’t because I didn’t say anything other than what I mentioned and then left the chat
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Delusional
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But really, the mil intel agencies (gmoney works for) actually built rare pepes and when people didn’t realize they had to start drops on 4chan until Ron got in trouble for making it about him.
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Steve Bannon told me
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What I said was no different than what your leader posts on a regular basis, his little Taylor swift hip thrust meme
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/s
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I was only half trying you got me
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Mike is also Q team.
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I’m a neon revolt alt
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I feel bad for that dude, he was so sure of himself and then it all just came to nada.
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What does that prove or show exactly?
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I agree. Did you know I commissioned and have token ownership in Tobiaspepe? We wanted to do a whole series but burned out after the first.
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All Gmoney is saying could be a lie. He has been caught telling lies many times.
I would never ever take his words as serious.
I also do not like he is allowed to talk lies and later escape from every situation like nothing happened -
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What about him spending a little time on writing report on how he had handled all the work he was relied and paid to do?
and how about collecting user feedbacks about his work? what about asking how great user experience is?
how about asking people how great his tools are ( he is alone saying this)?
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Until they will take responsibility all your defending is kinda funny to me. I do not know how old you are, but i hope not a 16 years that i need to explain that SOMEONE has to be responsible for such situations. there can not be NO-ONE, then it would mean the keys are with wrong people. We need someone who at least understand responsibility to take care of development. That is blockchain , there is no reverse actions. If dawg will do mistakes and each time will walk away dry, CP will bleed to death. This is very very obvious.
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This. You think that what people wanted from dawg was "good" communication on telegram?
to have a tik tok friend for a millions?
Are you serious???
Does bus driver has to be good podcaster too?
Or where your logic is at?
LEADER OF THIS PROTOCOL IS A MAINTAINER OF PROTOCOL. That is it. All he has to be good at is to maintain the protocol for it not to break, like happened many times while jdog was "maintaining" it. -
ready to trade, what chain? :D
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The insanity is you
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I would love to ignore jdog and the PP pals but the problem is I get asked constantly by casual users what is going on with counterparty, so I can’t escape it
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You also commandeered the main counterparty chat to wax poetic about how the world is against all you sigmas and have succeeded in just confusing everyone that doesn’t care they just want to know their assets are still accessible in their wallet
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So if you want to talk about insanity why don’t you start there
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#Bump.kek
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I’d love to hear what the truth is to you
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here's my numbered list for you:
1. confront Jdogs constant divisive bad and maximally public behavior as ferociously as you're confronting this tiny chat
2. hold yourself to the same standards of public behavior that you're demanding of others
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otherwise, what are you doing here?
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yeah its cause you want his approval badly
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and you don't have it
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i can tell whose approval you want badly because you never criticize those people
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Classic is just my opinion? Are you saying I’m imagining its existence?
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becuase you've never disagreed with him
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publically
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if you have, send a screencap and let's look together. if not, i am assuming you are lying because you lie often
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I also told you how people are confused and you didn’t address that at all?
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It’s just projection, this is why convo is impossible
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I think the PP pals think they’re playing 5D chess
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i pointed out like 3 different times you lied last night
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you never circled it
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He is Mr reply guy
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It’s a great example how one troll can ruin an entire chat
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you said i made this up, and then i forwarded the message where you said exactly what i said you were saying
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you lie constantly man
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whatever is convenient, you say it
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maybe you're just lying to yourself, idk
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5D chess
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He’s much smarter than us
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yes lol he did say that to me one time
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Stack hit the hardest so far, but he's also the smartest of you dorks
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stack is absolutely smart
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long branch has never given me any indication he is smart
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That’s not what I said you vampire! - longbranch probably
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He knows there’s only one counterparty and we need to shut up and accept it
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it's so bogus that he's literally here just to confront what he sees is this enormous evil (this tiny chat where people can vent about others very public and frequent terrible behavior) by just trying to annoy people into stopping.
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let's look
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looks like you’ve managed to say the word vampire 9 times since thursday
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in the Counterparty general chat
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yeah man, caught you in a lie
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sucks
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"I say almost nothing in the other chatS"
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Zoom in
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coming up, i'm giving you a count of your almost nothing
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Probably true, I’ve only seen you and PP pals negative since Jdog’s fork
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You don’t think it is but it is
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He must be an, Expert or one
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Enhance
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It’s negative, you think we’re being mean to jdog for pointing out what hes done and you’re punishing us with your trolling
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I think we cracked the case tho
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PP pals are the smartest guys in the room and since they can’t ever admit they made a mistake they will simultaneously encourage classic while not using it themselves
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“I’m glad it exists”
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You encourage its existence
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Anyone not knowing anything else and reading that would think they should try it
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So in a roundabout way you guys are just scammers
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Do you not believe it?
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You encourage its existence
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You do by publicly stating you’re glad it exists
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Gmoney also referred to it as insurance
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This is encouraging it
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Ok yes now I’m gay I see how this works
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376 messages in a chat you’ve been a member of for 2 months, tand of those two months you were muted for 3 weeks, so that is an average of 10 messages a day
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save yourself some time, leave this chat
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yep, you lied
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keep moving the goal posts
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What if we all rebooted for the new year?
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I think we are all bigger than all of this and could rise above this stuff if we wanted to
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And I’m a tiny doll saying this
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Good call
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Counterparty moves to discord! Looool
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what do you think made you start participating so frequently?
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Yes we know you’ve been wronged and need to punish us
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you said you think jdog behaved badly, how many times have you said that to him? or is it just this chat you care about
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you guys are friends, he'd listen to you right?
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yeah that's what the 400 messages were for
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but he's behaving badly in a public way? so why not a public discussion? you don't seem to have any problem doing it in counterparty general
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sigma males stick together
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If classic does PBST in a decentralized way, it will probably win in the end
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Not encouraging it ^
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aw yeah, longbranch lied again
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bummer
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oh yes the zooming out right
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yeah man classic isn't doing anything
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You also talk about Adam in your chat as much as we talk about jdog in this chat
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yes and in front of 1500 users, including a lot of casuals. what do you think does more damage?
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Counterparty chat you guys took over
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even in BTNS jdog can't stop himself from constantly shitting on counterparty
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every single public platform he has he tries to create FUD
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but sure, your private discussions with him are working well to confront his bad behavior
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you're a hyprocrite dude, and that is why no one takes you seriously
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and people dislike you
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sure, stick with that
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We got banned. There is a difference
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Are you part of the community jdog refers to when he talks about who classic is for?
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What's funny is I haven't seen Adam complain or do anything to hinder Jdogs development as I still see BTNS txs on Horizon Explorer.
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There is 1 hypocrite
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1 common denominator
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You should tell him that it’s in his mind
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man this is so sad
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Yeah just wants the trainwreck to continue it seems
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seriously, who do you think is actively doing more to cause FUD right now?
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Take an honest look at the situation. Who is doing more to scare users?
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Being honest with him is important, not trolling
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explain
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what behaviors is adam doing?
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then let's look at a list of jdogs behaviors
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Just the fact we discuss this in a side channel and not the main chat is exhibit one trying to minimize the effect
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They haven’t tho, in his mind you are with him in his community served by classic, like you said
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ok, so that happened 2 months ago
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what since then?
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alright lets start the jdog list
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Are you part of the community jdog refers to when he talks about who classic is for?
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In his mind probably. But that's you too in this scenario
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Which is why I’ve told him I don’t support it lol
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- Actively maintains a fork of the network
- mentions he's actively maintaining a fork of the network on the explorer for Counterparty so it's the first thing people see on every single explorer page
- continues to FUD every new feature being delivered
- Says Adam is making bad decisions constantly in front of the largest audience he can
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So so far on Adam's list we have:
- He left a chat that JDog would not relenquish ownership of -
oh and i forgot about the minutes where he didn't say jeremy's name on the space
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Why don’t you follow me and tell jdog the truth
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Adam is allowing development and experimenting. As the evidence of BTNS shows. What did Jdog do to stamps and src20s?
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I'm not here to defend Adam
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i just want any evidence of equivalence here
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I've been critical of certain things, but I do understand it's not easy to please everyone
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And not all scenarios can be planned and executed without hiccups
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yes at the end of the day someone needs to make technical decisions and I do think adam is a good technical leader and someone with a strong vision for Counterparty's future
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But yes I've been critical of some things that we can point a finger and blame Adam, as he is current maintainer
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I don't see him banning me from all the chats and censoring our assets and hindering development
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honestly i vote we just ignore all of long branch’s messages from here on, it’s completely pointless to have a conversation with him
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I’d have a cheeseburger with ya
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People aren’t their opinions even if I disagree with them
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Quiet quitting lol
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Left.
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just gonna leave this leaderboard here for number of messages in this chat:
Stack: 2079
Longbranch: 1428
Vector: 659
Mysterious Aesthetic: 530
Duncan: 336
Northern Satoshi: 317
Cornholio: 274
Carsonated: 103
Whatever: 92 -
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The pitch was from before his time. He jumped to conclusions
- 31 December 2024 (32 messages)
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Left.
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Left.
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Joined.
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I survived 12/30/2025
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new year new me
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Thou shalt not question the FLOON.
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Gonna be a big year... 👀️️
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was …az the jdog sock?
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Possibly
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It’s a public group so doesn’t really matter
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yes of course
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Vibe shift is on
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Stack 2k hahahahha no way
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we need to get him vaccinated asap
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i would suggest, if someone want to defend/protect or do any other hero play to support dawg= they should have to take responsibility.
simple as that.
I am not going to look at clowns who protect irresponsible people, or they have to take their responsibility then.
in short words if LB want to defend dawg he has to have a spare million that they made to vanish. Put it on the table, apology everyone taking btc for your own purposes and then MAYBE we will talk to you like a man again.
Until that happened you all are weasels that has no responsibility and i accept your talks as AIR. Your reputation to me is equal to ZERO just because you are dumb enough to select the side of a thief and blatantly pitch us your "truths". -
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As example gmoney lied several times trying to accuse me of the crimes i havent done. so just he could harm my reputation and make me not to talk about counterparty anymore.
Only of me seeing LB vibing with gmoney(Gbeggar) makes me want to vomit.
you vibe with fake people who talk shit? i give no respect lol.
to me word is word. i always do the right thing not like you powerless tiny weasels.
so again.
anyone who will support thiefs, liars and other trolls will be blended to shit and i will take care for that to be reflected on their reputation too. -
LB, you admitted that you are friends with Gmoney. And you never noticed GMONEY talk shit? never called his words and actions insanity but yet you are first to come here on this chat and call our chat insanity and call us vampires? Perfect. lol. should we take you as a grown man?
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about those minutes....
again i repeat:
DUDE STOLE A MILLION
CENSORED THE ONLY EXPLORER WE HAD
ASKED BRIBES
FORKED THE CHAIN AFTER HE LEFT
NEVER TOOK RESPONSIBILITY
and ETC.....
you want that piece of shit to be mentioned in first minutes ? he has to be behind bars for the crimes he did and not in the centre of applauses. -
Not that they do not use it, but they call scammers the ones who tested that crap.
let me explain, i opened dispenser on classic to test it.
it got dispensed. but dispenser stayed open. i said to them they have issues. they ignored lol.
then i was saying i have infinity dispenser because nor me nor someone else can close it, and it still show open when it has to be empty.
gmoney came to scarce city saying that i am scammer and i am shilling scam dispensers.
ALL I SHOWN WAS A LINK TO CLASSIC.
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so not that they don't use it, they do not believe in it too. and they attack all the potential users.
they are brainlets. i never seen such a dumb ass fools like them ever.
i assume it has to be brain damage because of drugs or something else. but im sure i should have at least twice higher IQ than any of them trolls and this is why it is not easy for me to get to their levels for them to understand me.
I know they are good at peeling banana or cooking spaghetti, but then why to touch the code? Why to attack users that have a valid feedbacks?
leave it to someone who understand what they do. dawg left already, was good to see him leaving twice.
Thanks for listening 🙏
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Lol, he gone
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