- 22 November 2017 (183 messages)
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Yeah but operation slay the dragon happening soon -
Bitcoin diffucukty adjustment could be sginnigans
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Shinnigans
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True that. There are so many moving parts right now -
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Wouldn't slower block speed decrease on exchange supply of Bitcoin ?
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Might be time to get some Bitcoin packages
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Hnnng
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He's hilarious though -
The civil asset forfeiture episode was great
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What's the tldr? Jews keeping us down?
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Lol
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Basically it's not about free speech. The biggest censors of speech support it. It's about getting free bandwidth without paying for it. Of course it's subsidized by people paying their internet bill
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of course its not about free speech
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who ever said that?
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Maybe that's why our internet bill so high in US
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its about not having to pay more for the current level of service
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I'm paying for Fb traffic
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You are paying for their bandwidth
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no im paying to be able to go on any website i want at the same speed for a flat rate
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you think getting rid of net neutrality will lower prices you crazy
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they'll gouge cord cutters
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i would if i ran a telecom
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Watch weevs video then
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fuck the gu
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y
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that guy
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Why does Fb want net neutrality
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Or YouTube
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so they dont have to pay ransom to telecoms
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same
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Should a company that uses more bandwidth than another pay for it?
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no
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Lol
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because the users use the bandwidth
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So then someone is paying for it
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yes
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Who is paying for it
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users
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So I subsidize FB even though I don't use it
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Great
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Sigh
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did you just forget that telecoms have a cable tv business?
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that has been losing subscribers for years
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thats what this is all about
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Why should I subsidize FB Joe
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Can they afford bandwidth
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Shareholders like your attitude
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nah you're not seeing the big pictures
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Poor Fb :(
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why should i pay for a highway i never drive on
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Held down by the man
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right?
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why should i pay for a school i dont have kids at
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Why should I pay for a highway in Hong Kong
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should you pay for a highway in your state that you dont drive on?
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I dont mind that
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But you are equating it to subsidizing billion dollar corporations who mask it by claiming free speech. While they censor everyone
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It's about saving themselves money
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who is saying free speech?
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Simple and having you pay for it
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Lots of people, just go to reddit or Twitter
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'free and open internet under attack"
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they're stupid then, thats not what its about
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ahhh
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thats not free speech
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Do you have to pay when you use more bandwidth
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you're conflating the two
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But companies shouldn't?
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Wtf
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Poor Zuckerberg
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no one wants telecoms dictating prices
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they're the worst of the worst
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they should be regulated the way power companies are
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do you think power companies should be deregulated?
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should you have to pay for powerlines on the other side of your state?
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I am fine with them becoming utilities
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thats what they are now
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thats net neutrality
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nothing to do with free speech
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I do have a problem with billing dollar corporations using it to pass on their costs to little guy
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Surprised you defend it
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because thats not whats happening
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the users create the bandwidth
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That's it Joe
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Deleting this chat
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lol
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it was fun while it lasted
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One day I'll do it
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the free speech argument is good for propaganda though, should get the altrighters on board
- 23 November 2017 (799 messages)
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i imagine vpn usage will explode
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Why should I pay for Joe's game of thrones binge watching on Netflix
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Probably did
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Probably did
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Or someone else did
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What's your point
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this is small thinking
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i thought you were a big thinker mike
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dont be small
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What if isps censor
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I'm big thinker Joe
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Pay your fair share Joe
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Netflix may have to charge more
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Still not sure what your point is
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These things like Twitter that censor like crazy, promote this as if free speech is under attack
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When in reality they just are trying to save money for shareholders
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And putting the costs on me
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you're like the senior citizen that votes no on the school budget
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Because Fb is a human right that we all should subsidize
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i can guarantee that your cost of internet will not go down if we lose net neutrality
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Even if we don't use it
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Because roads
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no you're just blinded by propoganda
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And powerlines
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if fb had no users, would they use bandwidth?
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Roads, powerlines, schools, and Facebook - Joe looney
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roads, powerlines, schools and internet
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ftfy
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i do believe the internet should be a utility
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you've got some weird fetish against fb users
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you know what though, they'll get cheaper internet
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because you can buy a fb internet package
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I use them as example
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but i guarantee if you want all internet, you wont pay less than you're paying right now
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That I should subsidize FB, because they have users
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They have lots of users isn't good argument
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no you're subsidizing FB users, not FB the company
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you dont have to turn on your lights either
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Then why is Fb so pro net neutrality
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people lived just fine w/o electricity
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And Netflix
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Cause they care?
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You keep equating these things to billion dollar corporations
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because internet companies benefit from users having fixed costs and not having to discriminate on their internet bill
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do you hate capitalism too?
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i think you just want to give the billion dollar telecoms more money i guess
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It's capitalism to subsidize Netflix?
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mike wants to pay per site
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itemized bill
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I pay for YouTube
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I want companies to have to pay for what they use
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Is that too much to ask
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Do roads drive on cars?
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Oh jeez
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Joe hitting the bong
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/p -
Hahaha
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It's ok because we'll see what happens when telecoms rule the road
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Then we can argue what's better
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Mike thinks the argument is about free speech
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No that is the argument that Fb, reddit and Twitter use
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Free and open internet != free speech
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Free is confusing you I think
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Maybe fixed cost open internet would be better
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I'm not confused
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It seems like you are though
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You keep mentioning free speech
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I'm glad there is someone here that's anti net neutrality though
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Will make it more fun to antagonize when telecoms start pulling shit
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It will be funny when all those Facebook users you hate get to buy their Facebook internet for $10/mo and your cost doesn't go down
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Bbbbbut I was subsidizing them - mike
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Sorry I'm on boarding someone to Bitcoin right now
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You mean dash right?
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Joe loves core and Zuckerberg
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Sad times
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whats so bad about zuckerberg?
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What's going on in here -
some friendly banter, wanna join in?
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love that meme
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what is it that you hate about net neutrality MC?
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Did you watch the video I posted above
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Is it about free speech? I'm going to be very upset if that's what it's about
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If bothered, Mike will swaddle you
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It's funny when the sheep don't know they're sheep
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5D chess
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MC are you into pepe because you're a racist?
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That's why we're all here, right?
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i'll rephrase, do you like pepe because he's blue?
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i thought we were here to pump ICOs?
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ICO? Where??
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😳
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its hiding in plain sight
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well im two minutes in and he's complaining about the daily stormer, this should be rich
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There aren't many concise anti neutrality arguments so I'd just disregard his particular angle
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still harping on censorship
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this is so nonsensical
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well i gave up after minute 11
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TL;DR weev's bitter he got banned from facebook and twitter, so he's against whatever they're for, in this case it's Net Neutrality
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^ so no one else has to waste 11 minutes
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the passion comes from the hate
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that argument is hardly concise
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well you're white so that's partially true
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lol weave doesnt care about you then
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there's a 1/100 chance thats the case
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no just an angry white guy, who likes to surround himself with other angry white guys to feel better about being an angry white guy
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I'm just looking for the information I don't really pay attention to the politics
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do you remember this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/19/AR2007101900842.html
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bittorrent traffic will be the first thing to be blocked by isps after net neutrality falls
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good thing i already have one
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i can't believe mike wants you to have to plug your antenna back in
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What's going on in here
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Boys kissing is gross
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Is that not politically correct to say
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I'm not fully here to counteract Joe and gay friend at the time
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Hahaha
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Tag me in
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It's ok mike, dash is mooning, you should be celebrating
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vs.
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/p pepelike 100 cards for 6k. -
Don't mind MC, he's just trying to butter up mike so he can shill his notICO
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Jew conspiracy?
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Amanda's back
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Is that why it's mooning??
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Idk timing was the same
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Amanda + pr firm
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Man that's great, Amanda must be multimillionaire by now
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Sorry can't compete with blockstream
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Greg just not good optics
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It's a burn
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I like Greg, Adam is eh
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That beard tho
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Sorry my bad, MC wants to shill his premine
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Oh it's bad
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Really bad
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Kinda shitty that bittrex let's new people deposit but doesn't let you withdraw
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No mining
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But I like that he doesn't care it's bad
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No warnings when depositing
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0 for 2 here Joe
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/p cubistpepe -
So do you get tokens without burning?
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Or does everyone who wants tokens have to burn?
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There's no mining involved. Devs have an allocation
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Ok ok, MC is here to pump the value of his "allocation"
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Better?
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That "allocation" smells an awful lot like a premine
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But if you want to argue semantics I'll give it to you because there's no "mining"
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It's a stake for the creators, it's how most companies operate.
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Hahahaha is it though
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Archetype.mx
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Yes
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Most companies tell people to burn there money for a "token" that they already have a pile of without burning any money?
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Did I get that right?
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lol none actually that I know of. I was just talking about having a stock allocation for the founders
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Oh so you're giving out equity?
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it's a comparison most people would understand
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You talk as if it's a shady grab - we are building out a cool token system using our experience in XCP and other places because it's a fun and natural next step. IBO is great because it better aligns everyone's incentives than an ICO, and even PepeCash layholders benefit from a smaller supply.
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Token generator with built-in IPFS image hosting, tiered information hierarchies, custom DEX, and token browser // frontpage called Noosphere will be like Reddit/Steem.it where every post is a token. Other cool stuff like decentralized token auctions so people can all have a chance to own pieces of certain information without a central seller
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It's not very transparent on your site how it works
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this monday we have a very much updated tech stack with graphs and stuff you'd like to see
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That you will retain 50% of supply without burning at all
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I do agree that it aligns incentives more than a traditional ICO
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Just reloaded some Cubistpepe stock as they were sold out. New price, new volume:
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It is an experimental release model to be sure, but the end goal is to build an easy to use and cheap token system that can scale to more people and generate more interesting projects
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But it's still a premine, whether that's good or bad is up to your potential token holders to decide
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Carry the Rare Pepe spirit to more people
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Agreed. sort of
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If you were more upfront in the IBO text, I'd be less critical
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Joe you are negative tonight
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Did game of thrones end bad
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I will take that into account as I redo some of the resources
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I'm paying your Netflix stream fees you can at least be nicer
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i dont think im being negative
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just critical
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mike, what if fb users are subsidizing you?
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Hm that's deep
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Zuckerberg fighting for me!?!
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Not his shareholders
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Seems legit
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That's the magic of memetics, you can get zucc on your side without him even knowing
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His knees bend backwards
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lol, i already laid out why fb wants things to stay the same
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let me browse my zucc memes
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customer acquisition costs
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mike do you use bittorrent?
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Only to spread pepe chain
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Used to use it
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Zucc vs. Tony Robbins 2024
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mike is pro internet tx fees
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I pay tx fees on my bill
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It's like 80 bucks
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More than my electricity wtf
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do you really think your internet bill will go down w/o net neutrality?
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telecoms have shareholders right?
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There needs to be more competition in telecom arena but I think regulations maybe hinder that
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we're gonna need to decentralize web infrastructure
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yeah cause he hates CNN
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then why are telecoms lobbying to gut net neutrality?
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so they can have more competition?
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I thought weev was that guy who made those first viral internet vids. Narwhals and Badger Badger Badger stuff
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that should be the good that comes out of this
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that'l be a technical upgrade instead of a legislative one
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out of necessity
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Weev went to jail for some att hack
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Just like Bitcoin
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kind of like high tx fees in bitcoin should motivate devs to create offchain solutions
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exactly
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Maybe I'm thinking of weeb
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This was a significant amount of internet traffic at one time
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do you use Rare Pepe or other XCP projects?
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that guys name is weebl
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ooooo its a snaaaake
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mushroom MUSHroom
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From my understanding the whole net neutrality thing is a high level power play between Google and other content portals and the actual rail companies like comcast. NN allows Google to take advantage of the net utility companies, whereas the otherway around reverses the advantage. Censorship is abound in either direction. Sounds like Hegalian Dialectic where the solution would be some completely new legislation that isn't being brought to mainstream attention
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has the current dichotomy benefited consumers?
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they rarely do
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when titans clash, peasants duck
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you dont think the internet in its current form is a net benefit?
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I never suggested that it wasn't
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I meant, dichotomies of power rarely do
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so then this is a rare instance where the dichotomy is benefiting customers then
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as a heuristic
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no, censorship is a big problem
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internet traffic censorship?
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being enforced at the platform level
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or websites censoring users?
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Content censorship
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Or with daily stormer whole site banned lol
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thats a problem?
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Best case is that is doesn't pass so Google and similar portals loose influence and there is pressure to build a decentralized net infrastructure
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To some yes
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the infrastructure is working pretty well from here
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The net now is an increasingly slippery slope to arbitrary censorship at the behest of a few multinationals
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but i was able to watch that weev video on youtube? thats strange
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do you own bitcoin?
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eh, thats nothing new
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all traffic being created equal has brought much wealth to the world
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'From here' is a point in the net, whereas censorship treats not all points as equal. Depending on your point of view, people have a very different experience
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but the "net" is not currently censored
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agreed, and to keep it that way requires a significant restructuring of the content rails
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this is how the darkweb can exist
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certain sites can choose to censor if they want
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I mean, it's being done. Sure Reddit is huge for example but it's really just a propoganda platform at this point, outside some niche subreddits. Interesting content has moved to more decentralized platforms already
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the rails and the content are two different things
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Twitter Public Policy
We strongly oppose the FCC’s proposed weakening of Net Neutrality protections and will continue to fight for an open Internet, which is indispensable to free expression, consumer choice, and innovation.
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Twitter Safety
We will now launch our policies on violent groups and hateful imagery and hate symbols on Nov 22. During the development process, we received valuable feedback that we’re implementing before these are published and enforced. See more on our policy development process here 👇 https://t.co/wx3EeH39BI
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We're just witnessing the shake-up of the information giants as they fight to maintain relevancy in the face of decentralization
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whats wrong with this statement?
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Pepe is a hate symbol
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'hate symbol'
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by letting the rail giants take control
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Yeah who is defining hate
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no, the true power is outside of their hands as well. For now it's like a big wobbly ship and everyone's trying to maintain their footing
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"true" power
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Ask Vitalik
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child porn is the McCarthyism of infotech policy
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Pepe = child porn now
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there is a child erotica pepe, but we should probably just forget about it for now...
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Ugh
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do you really think your internet bill will go down w/o net neutrality?
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telecoms have shareholders right?
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i just dont get why everyone is always trying to change shit
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grass is always greener
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until its not
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They are for profit companies for sure
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do they have monopolies?
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So is Fb but only one needs to be regulated apparently
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HOT BUTTON ISSUE!!!
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Nick Szabo is building BTC tx's via ham radio. no joke
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Who pressed the hot button?
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Dragon slaying happening tomorrow
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this guy is a goober but here's some good info
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The Truth About 'Net Neutrality'
The federal government is about to seize control of the Internet and most Americans don't even know about it. Send your complaints to the FCC via this link: http://www.fcc.gov/comments http://infowars.com Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.71 FOLLOW Paul Joseph Watson @ https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet
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you can always choose to go to a different website, you can't always choose your ISP
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did you watch this one MC?
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This guy did
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its really bad
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i clicked through a few after that weev trainwreck
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incorrect, if your website is censored
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Duck an' cover commandoes
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so fire up tor
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You're saying that TOR is the answer to being censored due to your political/social stances
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im saying you have the freedom to use tor right now
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Joe not sending his best tonight
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you may not after they gut net neutrality
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Badgerbadgerbadger was created by morman Jesus
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That's a fact
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Which is actually true - but as thought of from the point of freedom fighters communicating in a oppresive regime
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what am i sending?
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Not as a free citizen needing to hide from infotech titans
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Do you support daily stormer getting taken totally off the web Joe
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First site in history?
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i support people being able to do what they want to do on the roads of the internet
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this is not a net neutrality discussion though
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you guys are perverting the conversation
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Twitter Public Policy
We strongly oppose the FCC’s proposed weakening of Net Neutrality protections and will continue to fight for an open Internet, which is indispensable to free expression, consumer choice, and innovation.
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we can have that conversation, but its not a net neutrality conversation
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please interpret that for me
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yeah you can create a tg group and let the dailystormer guys post in there all day
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it is - one part of net neutrality is ISPs discriminating data, another part is about censorship
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no, you're making it about censorship in regard to free speech
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lets use analogies shall we
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part of the legislation is explicitly about censorship
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link?
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Net Neutrality Is Government Censorship, by Brent Skorup, National Review
'Net neutrality' is a scheme to institute government control of the Internet under the guise of 'equal treatment.'
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"Many rules and regulations kick in, including a selective ban on blocking Internet content and oversight of the competitive Internet interconnection market, but the so-called general-conduct standard swallows them all. This amorphous rule allows the FCC to prevent any practice by an Internet access provider that the FCC believes will “unreasonably disadvantage” an Internet user, application, or content provider. The FCC and net-neutrality advocates correctly recognize that if the agency can monitor and control the distributors of speech, they can shape culture and politics."
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The pro-NN brigade is a massive psy-op
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I have never in all my years in comfy neetdom seen Reddit so stuffed with a single post
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this is an opinion piece
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"This amorphous rule allows the FCC to prevent any practice by an Internet access provider that the FCC believes will “unreasonably disadvantage” an Internet user, application, or content provider. "
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whats the issue here?
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"Title II rules make the FCC the ultimate arbiter of which tradeoffs and business models are acceptable. Call it innovation by regulatory waiver. So when providers are unsure about whether a new technology or business model “unreasonably” harms some Internet constituency, they can submit those prospective plans to the Commission and pray for an affirmative (and timely) advisory opinion. These advisory opinions border on Kafkaesque. The FCC can decline the request for an opinion, can permit the innovation, or can require more information from the submitting party. These opaque determinations cannot be appealed, and affirmative decisions can be reversed at the agency’s whim."
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yes this is how regulation works
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It's not an opinion piece. This is describing the function of the legislation, which is giving a type of power to the FCC to be an information gateway
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"The FCC and net-neutrality advocates correctly recognize that if the agency can monitor and control the distributors of speech, they can shape culture and politics." thats not an opinion?
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No, regulation is usually done by imposing a rule for all to abide by. This established the FCC as an information curating bureau going forwards
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thats not what this says at all
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you're conflating "information" with the medium used to display it
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not even display it, but transfer it
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removing net neutrality is just putting barriers and tolls up on the current open road
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no, it creates an open market to deal with these problems
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what problems?
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and its not an open market
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most people cant choose their ISP
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thats the point
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can you choose your electric company?
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or your water company?
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there are other regulations that cover ISPs that are outside of this legislation that will still be in place
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One may argue the mass regulations on isps hinder competition and price little guys out
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Regulations rarely help competition
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Imo
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i think thats a good point, we should find out what small ISPs think about NN
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Bitlicense was awesome for ny
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thats the whole point of anti-trust regulation though
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'Net Neutrality' is essentially Google and other infotech lobby money to create a commission in the FCC to both control information flow and throttle ISP's under their business models
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and big telecoms have monopolies
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don't make me cry
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does this commission exist?
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not sure the point of this statement
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It is the FCC, which in this case will be empowered by new Net Neutrality powers
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what new powers?
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And to guess what the new guidelines will look like, take a look at the behaviors of the platforms who are providing the money to get this pushed. Namely, Google
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we're talking about keeping what is currently in place
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this is all conjecture
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And also, who will control them going forwards
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It's in the legislation
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so why am i "guessing" what they look like?
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If I say, 'This new law allows Police to take your wallet if they think you look funny', then that's what it does
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show me this net neutrality google written legislation
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these guidelines
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Not hard to guess, Google is on a censorship and politithink streak
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this is going nowhere
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i think im gonna bow out
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i hope that this all goes through so we can see which is better
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then we dont have to argue it anymore
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We will argue about something new then
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time for tea
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Jesus doesn't approve
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read leviticus u goy
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Troll time is over. New topic: water filters
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Alex Jones best ones that filter flouride
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#jonesknew
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Weev is Jewish
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you need to get your basic heavy metal & estrogenic compound remover, vibrate the water into a pure hexagonal lattice, then mineralize
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Is David icke right about lizards
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Are Jews lizards?
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I watched fascinating documentary the other day where Jews follow him around
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And harass him
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Cause they think he means Jews when he says lizard
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I don't support your view that Jews are lizards. But I support your right to create a futures contract on that eventuality
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David Icke, The Reptilian Lizards and The Jews full documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtVyrayu7Tc
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It's not my view
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that's weird that they're following him around though
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Haha
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