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- 30 March 2017 (1492 messages)
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that's what bitcoin "looks like"
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In the same way a contract proves you own a house
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/p stillpepe
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The house isnt the contract itself
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this is what the STILLPEPE token "looks like"
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For instance I have a token..
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/p PWAPWAPWAPWA
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U can buy it but u can't replicate art for something else
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And the original art is recorded on blockchain as PWABYSCRILLA 1/1
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U can't print that on shirts without my consent
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Etc...
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thats really no different than most art that you buy
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Yup
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but i'd argue that what makes rare pepe special is not that its tokens representing art
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And blockchaining it doesn't auto copyright
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its art representing tokens
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So tgen it can't be copied and sold by someone else
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Yea
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Nope not legally
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thats where derose and co. are confused calling it a scam
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because its not representing itself as something its not
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people are just collecting tokens
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Yea
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Collectibles
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Some have utilities beyond collectibles some don't
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/p seapepe
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Just like an mp3 u buy or cd.. u own that Jawn but have no rights to it beyond pleasure
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Mp3s are scams
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lol they are when streaming is available 😝
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I bought an mp3 and all I can do is listen to it
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I'm gonna invent anew filetype, mpstreams
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the ultimate corporate cuck for audio
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this way of thinking is why i have a hard time conceptualizing how it can be applied to music
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I am going to change yer mind
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because IMO it wouldn't necessarily be the fact that you can listen to the song, but the fact that the token represents a collectible issued by the artist
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all of those things potentially have different rights
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royalty management only makes sense if you have the rights in the first place
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There's work going on inthat with rights MGMT
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Jinx
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future royalties to what? do you already have the rights?
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generally when you buy the rights to someones music, do you have the freedom to then resell that right?
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the athlete is the asset
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depending on the contract
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sure
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If u own the publishing and rights yea
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if buy the total rights to it then it's yours to license
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like Michael Jackson bought all the Beatle's songs
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Yep
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it's why they were unavailable until he died
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Mike is 5th beatle
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RIP to the legend
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you have to make sure you have all the rights - that's where people often get mixied up - especially with copyright - there are so many rights that can be bought, licensed
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so only full rights to art/music can really be tokenized
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Yes legally
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fantex is a completely different thing
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U could use like musicoin lol and upload Beyoncé songs maybe
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Bannon is an absolute madman, presidential advisor off of Seinfeld and Wow Gold
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But may catch wreck
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joe looney - this is where it can get cool - if you have a license to do certain things with the music, including making mixes, and permission to sell it - that is how music covers work.
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they have all the control
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so as an asset owner (meaning owning everything) you can license parts of it out
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no need to blockchainify
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Yooooooo fucking litecoin!!!!!!!
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(Sorry)
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for those of you who are bowie fans - bowie bonds.
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so you mean athletes would issue their own token rather than pay a commission to fantex?
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athletes need to be careful - their managers are making these deals for the most part - and what they are likely "selling" or "buying" are publicity rights. ALWAYS BE CAREFUL ATHLETES!
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exactly
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so why wouldn't that company just run the exchange centrally?
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then they could offer specials to market makers, 0 fees etc.
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Opportunity for rarepepe artists to be a part of a new blockchain experiment http://thescarabexperiment.orgLink
The world’s first Cryptocurrency as Art and crypto-based Artist Collective.
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What is it
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A shared artist persona that uses blockchain for transparency and voting.
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fantex could integrate all that without tokens
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Its a kind of virtual artist that any artist can be a part of
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All share in its profits if it succeeds
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Do have a whitepaper
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hmm ... if all share, doesn't that encourage doing nothing? everyone can just ride on coat tails of most popular.
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Explain some Kevin if u don't mind
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eh, i dont think not having tokens is necessarily what's holding them back
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Yes whitepaper on site
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I clicked it and nothing happened
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Button broke?
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Yes
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Its an experiment to create an artist that is formed by a multitude of artists
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Like community A&Rs and talent scouts
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Interesting concept
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Artists work together for fame and success versus trying to do it all on your own
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Yea that's been part of my motivation in what I am doing
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im skeptical but that doesn't mean someone won't do it and be successful
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It will work joe
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Just gotta cut thru some shit first
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I'm a belieber
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that's what bitshares music tried to accomplish
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Go blockchain!!!!
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peertracks
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i dunno whatever happened to them
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They doing it wrong
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i get that
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i mean using tokens instead
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Peertracks had a cool thing tho with community A&Rs and charts
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it just comes down to perception right?
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They just don't have marketing or influence either
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Perception and participation
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there's no benefit at all if people perceive those tokens to be untrustworthy
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this is the biggest problem with tokens representing things in the real world
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if people just reneg on promises, then what good are they
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i agree
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but you've centralized so much at that point
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the company should just run an exchange
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Centralization not always a bad thing
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Jinx
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i dont think it needs to be
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it obviously doesnt need to be if fantex is working
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RAREPEPE is a centralized / decentralized hybrid
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so you imagine a market with a lot of different companies issuing assets for people?
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Curation is good
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thats exactly what fantex enables
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you want that model expanded to like you or me?
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I contributed music to a star bball players YouTube stuff for years for free (a friends kid) it would be cool if ppl that assist like that could have opp to incentivize .. u would have more community activity to make the kid go pro
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sounds kinda like indentured servants
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Nah
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Beneficial to all
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you're indebted to your investors
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Yea
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you have an obligation to them
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joe looney - kinda. unless the atheletes are truly the ones who are agreeing to do this - then it is on their own heads how they make money from their own fame.
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But for more than 7 years lol
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Yea risk mgmt
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what if you play bball for 3 years and quit
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because you dont like bball anymore
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Risk u take
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its not the same
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companies have obligations to their shareholders
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and they can't work against their interests
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Labels sign artsist that tank all time
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U just doing a diff way
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Athletes too
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im not talking about guaranteed returns
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A Duty to Shareholder Value
If directors were allowed to deviate from shareholder wealth maximization, they could turn to indeterminate balancing standards, which provide no accountability.
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you're talking about something else
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None
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im talking about a company's obligations to shareholders
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read the example in that article
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Since we talking tokens and shit I'll plug this for those watchful eyes...
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ART ON THE BLOCKCHAIN: Featuring Adam B Levine (Episode 1)
This is Episode 1 of ART ON THE BLOCKCHAIN with your hosts DJ J $crilla and Cynthia Gayton. In this episode we familiarize our listeners with who we are and what our aim is with the podcast. We speak
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thats fine, so buying stock in someone's future earnings would have to have a pretty strict set of defined obligations
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which would be very different than stock in a company
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it is, its for the court to decide
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it would def be an interesting case though
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sure, but they depend on case law
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and precedents
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there must be an example in history where someone tried to sell shares of their future earnings
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here's a good example, say i have a job where i earn $50k and a new opportunity presents itself for a job that makes $100k, but i dont want that $100k job for other reasons
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none of them being financial
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if i was a company, my shareholders would rightfully take me to court
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exactly, so its very different
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but that risk is still there
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even if its written into the initial contract
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i'd still have to deal with court
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because of my obligation to those investors
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i wouldnt need to hire a lawyer
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i'd need to prove that i didnt have that obligation
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and the contract was written in good faith, etc
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but we're assuming there is no fantex right?
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only tokens
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so why do we need tokens?
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😝
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im mostly giving you a hard time
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telegram in and of itself is a bad use of time
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its a procrastination machine
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oh that doesn't mean its not enjoyable
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woo, go eagles!
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but thats subjective
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😂😂
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so there were other deals available?
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it absolutely does
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Joe, you need to return to the Kai bro!!
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as a shareholder, id like someone to make some money rather than no money
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this chat is for dank rares!!! 🐸🐸
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i was sick of watching you guys suck trumps dick
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😳
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do you regularly watch tv shows you dont like?
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exactly
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is this 3rd grade social studies?
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MAGA
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Donald chump
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I have some trump handdrawns if anyone wanna buy <plug>
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YES!
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I'm from ukraine
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but that doesn't matter
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still my president
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R u Russian Ukrainian?
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Or Ukrainian Ukrainian
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jewish ukrainian
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kek
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yeah, i live in a bot but he's my president too
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Is there a way to bookmark a spot on a telegram chat?
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don't think so. you talking about particular message?
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just send it to yourself
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your own chat and save it that way
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you can just forward yourself the message
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yeah
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this
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What if the athlete has a higher offer from a team/coach that is gonna run him ragged and likely shorten his career? It could be argued that going w s team/coach that considers health/longevity would lead to more total earnings over time? Which should the athlete consider better? Would shareholders agree? Etc
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What I am lose my mind gone
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ive got a few gems ive sent to myself over the last few months
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Sticker dem joe
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what if i just stop paying
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will they garnish my wages?
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Ok. An athlete could issue additional shares and dilute shareholder equity when he hits it big time. Or walk off w initial money if he doesn't make it in the bigs.
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👍thanks
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I'm just saying people can be and often are assholes w no integrity.
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yeah so it should be centralized
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Athletes included of course
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And then they front for a local car dealership or open a restaurant. Do I get some of that $$ too?
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Sounds neat but execution sounds complicated
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im trying to imagine doing this more broadly, like if you or i were to do it
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its a pretty bad deal
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its like a loan payment that gets more expensive the more money you make
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Really I get 100K today and have to give up X% of earnings in perpetuity?
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A young person might think that sounds good. To an older person it sounds like additional tax for life
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i imagine people blowing the lump sum they get, then being screwed for life
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its like an alimony payment
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yeah but then they can declare bankruptcy and the debts are wiped clean, this is more of a child support payment
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so not only do you lose your money, you still owe money on your earnings for life
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Maybe a lottery
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Type setup
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Big payoff quicker and once X is paid out to investors the athlete is free and clear
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I'm not talking about athletes, I'm saying if this idea was expanded to everyone
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/p pepehoffman
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this on yours?
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Yes
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Second I think
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Just interest me in good offer maybe?)
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well i already shelled over the pepecash so perhaps down the line :)
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gib financial advise
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That's why I don't think the token use case is that compelling here
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/p spiritpepe
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Look like tattoo artist made
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>not doing it anyways
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/p
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Need one ^^
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18wUphncN6mEwxYkQQsv37xXT1TsSANZhB
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Send one please
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I'll send you an equally rare from an earlier series
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k
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Addy so I don't send something you already have
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Joined.
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/p badltpepe
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Owner? Trade?
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can someone explain what badlt is
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Bad Lt, I think
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Lieutenant
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Is that Nic Cage Bad Lt or Harvey Keitel?
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Keitel I would guess
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Port Of Call is hillarious
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ah right
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/p pepegaia
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/p relatepepe
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/p joelooneybin
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Impressive. Very Nice.
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Joe might actually end up in a straight jacket some day
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Is this a known pepe?
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From Japan Edo period
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Chris rock meme "they spinning, they spinnin"
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Chris Rock- Rims
Chris Rock shares his comments on rims
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they spinnin
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My meme game is subpar, nay terrible
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The Military and Memetics (CIA Vault 7 Memetics)
The Military is using Memetics New Icon/Banner by https://twitter.com/blabberdookie https://twitter.com/DeodorAnthony WildSpartanz Video: https://youtu.be/nE...
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Is yours? How so expensive?
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Almost bot one last night
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Yes. Don't know what's the actual price. Long time without placing a sell
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Wanting that card long time
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'crickets'
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truth
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hahahaha! guys! Tre Estonian news saying now on tv that Ivanka will be counselor of Trump soon... Is it for real???!!)) lol!!!
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I could get virtual coffee and go to the virtual dry cleaners for you 🦅
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That's real talk. She's becoming g official but she's been there all the while
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and without salary
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I prefer in your face nepotism to behind closed doors nepotism
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hahaha
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I prefer Ivanka to Chelsea
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holy cow this is awesome!!
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at least in this instance of nepotism I don't have to see a human toiler
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Don't think a 150k salary is gonna make much difference in her quality of life
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Meme Warfare is real!
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Hell yes
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/p rareivanka
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that picture of her next to Merkel is hilarious
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especially after I found out trump cucked Merkel with that invoice
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hahaha. I saw that
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😂 but true
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from leaked WikiLeaks NATO documents.
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I bet the Gubment meme game is weak
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although pepe did seem to help Trump
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omg
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how do i join?
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that's a screen shot from that video
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I heard that the campaign followed what r/the_donald all through the summer and fall
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yea the Rare Pepe Foundation could be an adviser
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lol
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You are currently engaged in for-profit meme warfare, as a mercenary
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private sector paying well, but i want to give back to my nation, my homeland! ;)
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>When you get written up by your meme management officer at the CIA for using offensive language
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or when you get put on probation because your memes arent dank enough
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Meme subversion of the United States is now a thing
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If meme warfare exists, so do meme traitors, meme terrorists, et.c
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Civilian meme casualities
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Professor of memes, real possibility
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I was considering studying memetics in academia
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I took a credit in the history of animation
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But figured the most cutting edge developments were to be had in the for-profit meme sector
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Btw for all looking for a rational source of meme knowledge, check out Terrence Mckenna, a founding father of the study of memetics
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18wUphncN6mEwxYkQQsv37xXT1TsSANZhB
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/p pepestoned
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nothing lasts... but nothing is lost
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Terrence MkCenna is a cointelpro asset used to subvert the psuchedelics/esoteric scene into something establishment friendly
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yea what if you turn double agent and secretly make memes so advanced that they are still looked at as weapons still but in fact, like a heat sealing missile gone awry, just turns back around and does domestic damage.
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How to plug in someone else's addy in RPW?
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the entire hippie movement was CIA psyop
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and McKenna knows shit about memetics
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he even said he could be, but even if it's true what he says is still great
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i love that Dawkins coined the term too
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Meme warfare, by it's very nature, is a meshnet of various interests, constantly evolving, and all the intents are nebulous at best
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I think it was a psyop w unintended consequences so then they had to co-opt it
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and that it's a deriviate of the word gene
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And murder or marginalized all the leadership
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Help?!
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i read selfish gene a few years back. excellent book, especially since it's so old.
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We have FSMPEPE, why no DAWKINSPEPE?
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Yeah, since virus's and genes are technically "alive" from a purely axiomatic standpoint memes can be considered lifeforms since they replicate and evolve
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Memes exist in the Noosphere as opposed to the Biosphere - the realm of Ideas. Very much alive, constantly moving and transmuting
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@maddkidd
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our brain doesn't really come up with anything original, it's all just a regurgitation of someone else's dank meme
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Ty
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what really needs to be studied is how memes evolve into the emergent property of consistent thoughts
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Our brains come up with higher ordered thoughts
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even if grabbed from the noosphere
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but those are just emergent properties of memes
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memes = assembly/binary
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perhaps world peace is achievable with the right meme???
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fuck
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thoughts, culture, words, concepts, etc. = Java
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Not only do our brains establish higher orders of memes, so does the collective cybermind as well
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like everyone will see this meme and be like, yep, no more nukes yo
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Memes are perfect for communication
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For example, Pepe is not just a simple meme, but now a layer of something else, a self-replicating program built on meme infrastructure, but of a much higher order of complexity
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Pepe is a T2 meme, whereas most Ideas are T1 memes
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Cuts through all the bullshit and makes the point without articulating and get bogged down in semantics
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Picture tells 1000 words and a meme tells 1000 stories
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I disagree, pepe is more abstract and constitutes a base memetic substrate in which higher ordered thoughts are built upon
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Joined.
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but still represents something in itself
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Too many words
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Pepe is a T2 meme because it is a platform upon which new memes are generated, which in turn fuel the Pepe substrata
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it's like the mirrored surface of a pond, with the chaotic kek energy below for us to bring up
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Many more T2 memes such as Pepe will come, though I believe Pepe is the first T2 meme to rise to prominence due to internet culture
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Join the meme philosophers group
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Pepe is internet Jesus... a good way to say it
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if so, and pepe and memes are in the noosphere, is that kek christ consciousness?
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It's also help peoples, who's aren't prepared to accept some cryptographic symbols only as a options of value changing! That numbers isn't so small. Pepe can solve that issue very easily! The art and use of numbers 1.2.3.. Makes pepe fits better than others current sitting on top of the bitcoins Blockchain
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Meme Tiers are more indicative of an increasing complexity of the memetic aether, in orders of magnitude
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T1 being memetic substrata, your typical reddit frontpage. And T2 being what Pepe is spearheading, a self-sustaining meme-complex
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I suspect T3 memes will have the ability to autonomously effect reality without direct human intervention
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When AI start making dank memes, you know the end is near
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there won't be much left at that point to do.
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why live? ;)
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we'll be buying AI created rare pepes from them
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they will corner the market
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/p clubpepe
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I think we will find there is a certain X factor which AI's cannot replicate..
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oops
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/p pepeclub
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Anyone have a chart of telegram growth overlaid w pepecash price chart?
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I think a pepecash/card trading daily total would be a nice tool
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We know how much xcp/pepecash and BTC/pepecash traded daily but not the aggregate cards/pepecash and cards/xcp
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Xcpdex data seems stale to me
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https://t.co/5Bsdxbc5bP
latest Project ORB update. Some of the upcoming features are relevant to rarepepe tooProject ORB Update (Mar 30th, 2017)We deliver to you the latest update on Project ORB. We are excited about the scheduled global launch of Spells of Genesis(SoG)in April and…
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i think the best data is the traffic to rarepepewallet.com
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it's pretty amazing lately.
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probably aligns with price of XCP and PEPECASH
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Keep it up Koji
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thanks👍
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Koji putting the Counterparty team on his back! Chris Moss too
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??????? @koji
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necro the chat thread.
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lol
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oh damn
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beat me to it
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😆
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hmmm, I'm not sure but maybe
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lol
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How do I check out those numbers?
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this was what i was looking for
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the famous deal that was brokered between Needmoney90 and Shaban
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It wasn't a deal, I gave him the assets
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For free
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Gratis
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IIRC
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^
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thought he said you get one or two of each?
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that was nice
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Well I don't have them atm
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Or the assets
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So I presume I didn't :)
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I just wanted the ecosystem to not get fucked over by squatters
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true
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Nice, i still haven't chatted with the dev on slack about linkage because that's for the other pepe game and I shouldn't be sinking time on it (not yet) 😂😂
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/p xpepe
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/p pepegaia
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Yeah... screw squatters :P
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Good news everyone!
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You can now redeem a PEPETSHIRT for a girls cut shirt, as well as regular t-shirts
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At cryptoshirts.io
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Cryptoshirts.io/rarepepe
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Welcome back, release the artist pepes!
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i thought that was a recent comment 😢😢
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Yeah me too, I guess it wasn't?
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from september
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who is @nola1978 ?
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who is mike jones?
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me
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ah ok.. email sent
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one of the best card
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One of the best 800 cards
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Nah... Not sure bout that..
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@KojiH are you here?
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/p pepepeanuts
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/p pepegaia
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That pepegaia is getting shilled like mad...
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almost as much as hwndupepe
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/p onlyonepepe
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Innocoinbot needs a limit. A user should only be allowed to ask it twice per hour in main chat...