- 01 January 2025 (4 messages)
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this is a nice ux. being able to see my actions infront of me in the same window. cool feature
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Happy New Years 🙏🎉
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one thing to note, when using more then one address - and if i want to use the third one on the list as my main one , the wallets current logic is to default to the first on the list
- 02 January 2025 (43 messages)
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i'm facing an issue when trying cancel an order : form is loading infinitely
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hi Japrog looking into this now.
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This appears to be a regression. Working on a fix now.
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Fix has been released in the web wallet
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Hey, looking at the txn from my recent atomic swap I am noticing that the UTXO trading is performed with assets being attached to 10,000sats for swapping - i know old school ordinals and such operated on this size envelop before UTXO control was more accessible but it appears the dust limit (546sat) is now more often used for current ordinal trading.
I don't know the mechanics of protcol changes that allowed this magic (and thank you works great!!) but i would suggest if possible to move into smaller UTXO 'envelopes' - 10,000 sats isn't prohibitively expensive but it is a cost to consider for high volume trading for the ATTACHOOR such activities such as arbitrage -
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utxo's in a random ordinal address i have with various air drops
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yeah we were just following ordinals/magiceden best practices. IMO 546 is a dangerous number because it's also the dust limit. @teysol can speak more to this.
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is the amount of sats you attach to a cost or is it just that you need to have that amount in your wallet?
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yeah another way to think about it is it establishes a floor price on the sale.
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Anyway, agree it shouldn't be so expensive as to preclude high volume listing (this is one reason why we have a monthly subscription for Horizon)
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So it’s not equivalent to a transaction fee, right?
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correct
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again standard practice in ordinals land but as @benchbtc and @teysol pointed out standards are changing as number go up
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How does it work? let’s say you pay 100,000 sats for something, and it’s attached to a 10,000 sat utxo, what happens to the net sale price?
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you get the whole output
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So do you effectively pay 90,000 sats?
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agreed as i said nto prohibitievly expensive but if I am doing a trade that is for example; sell 100xcp @0.00014 to buy 100xcp on dex-trade @0.00013 we are talking about
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here's an example swap: https://mempool.space/tx/039ae272baf05f0abfc9bc0a47432361ccf22666b4db0f6a6c67a9a0b284ecc4
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right, so in this case the listing was 1,400,000 sats, and the buyer sent that much from their address and then received 10,000 sats in return, so the net proceeds for the seller were 1,390,000
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yeah
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yes then i think this is a good idea
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when you detach a utxo, what happens to the 10,000 sats?
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gets sent back to the address. here's an example detach: https://blockstream.info/tx/e8a575d6cce48955d580dc857c911d80dc7202969423c9c9c3ac0304c01575fdBlockstream Block Explorer
Blockstream Explorer is an open source block explorer providing detailed blockchain data across Bitcoin, Testnet, and Liquid. Supports Tor and tracking-free.
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(ex tx fee in this case I guess)
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I mean @dimesquanderer can speak to that but I want to be clear: providing tons of configurability in the wallet around asset envelopes is not very high on the priority list. We'll just piggy-back on whatever flexibility Counterparty provides.
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appreciate the discussion, still wrapping my head around all of this
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completely understood - i care less about the configurability, more about the standards - seeing if there was hard reasons for for things, or if they have ability to change as i look at the viability and required deltas for an arbitrage i described - i wouldn't have probably even noticed if i was just selling a pepe here and there
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yeah we definitely want to make sure the standards in-place do not discourage high volume ATTACHOOORS
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(especially since it seems safest for users to detach after they purchase)
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oo nice work, so the size of the UTXO changing via a coin controling electrum send does not impact the ability to list it on horizon
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neat! haven't played with that myself. would just caution users: this is a new world; it is _very easy_ to lose your UTXO-attached assets if you use the address outside of a Counterparty wallet.
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we're adding warnings all over the place now and will continue to add guard rails, but obviously at the end of the day it's up to the user to exercise their judgment.
- 03 January 2025 (7 messages)
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Updated - 989 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/1ace8ec72e43a8b3eec46d4471503f1ab0b564c213e81ae551e6f10d23c1352e -- 0.00012800 -- 90 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/b8bb3866df7836c46dde6490306f7407ab8c7a11e7606b03e397b98481fd728d -- 0.00012900 -- 294 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/7e96084f756c6cc9f4f384a9e2c3f632adf9876904b90ab42b27f59cbc1d9d10 -- 0.00014100 -- 100 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 115 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
Notes:
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Larger lots are often available OTC - DM for more info
- Some XCP lots are also available on the atomic swaps market (rug-free!):
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On that note, v1.6.2 of the wallet has been published to the Web Store. This release includes warnings when importing a priv key into your wallet or conecting to the market about using your Counterparty addresses outside of Counterparty wallets.
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the directory is up 👀🔥
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- 05 January 2025 (3 messages)
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Link
The CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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It's great to see that it correctly directs to Horizon to buy from
- 06 January 2025 (26 messages)
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https://x.com/lfgcryptoart/status/1876068905015505137?s=46
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No that is not correct. Listing/delisting is independent from detaching.
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not yet, we'll have those in the next few weeks.
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So I can cancel an order and relist, no prob?
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yep
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np we're all still getting used to swaps
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really cool to see such old Counterparty assets be part of a new collection. Who organized the collection? It's great.
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only thing to be mindful of is not to use your horizon market address in a non-counterparty wallet. regular bitcoin wallets (e.g. electrum) will spend the utxo with the counterparty asset.
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yeah if you're careful you can track which utxos have assets and manually deselect those if the wallet has coin control. just want ENJOYOOORS not to have to worry about accidentally spending their NFTs.
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Has anyone spent an nft yet?
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i don't know, but this is a common problem with ordinals/runes
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Yes. Accidently spent an Ordinal in the early days
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Where did you buy your XCP?
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create a dispenser or list on horizon atomic swaps
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🔥 Yup it is fire. not sure about submissions on https://www.thecounterp.art , but you can buy and collect all the old gems on 💎
I like it is simple and easy to understand 🤓LinkThe CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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So ATM we have an extension and a web wallet. We don't have a way to sign an arbitrary message/tx. Is that what you're looking for?
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- 07 January 2025 (16 messages)
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Yup so great !
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I hear things coming isn’t that always the way ! lol
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I was wondering I love the art I have some old gems I’ve collected if you want to put art to them I’m game to let them go for a card ?!
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How’d u find those? Luv that idea
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Anyone know who runs thecounterp.art? And are all those old tokens owned by one person?
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https://horizon.market/explorer/addresses/1PokemonwYcSrHrMGpNAX6DX5ru5nepp94
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Looks like old tokens, with art added recently. Cool stuff, but important to understand only the token names are historical, not the art (AFAIK).
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price talk itself. All tokens are listed at cheap prices
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Very interesting. The one I looked at (BESTBUY) was minted 11 years ago. Transfered ownership 2 months ago and destroyed down from 100 to 15 eight days ago.
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Similar to what happened to TEST (the very first counterparty token)
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Sweeps
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definitely, I got a bit of demand for nakamoto, fd and satoshicard
- 08 January 2025 (49 messages)
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In simple terms, how do you sweep for dormant old tokens?
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Deals with people who need money with large wallets of NFTs cheaper to sweep otc
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Lucky 🍀 also scary sometimes haha
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Hey all, we've just pushed v1.6.3 of Horizon Wallet to the Web: https://wallet.unspendablelabs.com. This release includes support for Destroys, Dividends and Sweeps. It's also been submitted to the Web Store and should be available in the Chrome extension by EOW.
At this point to our knowledge we are only missing support for the following Counterparty features: Broadcasts, BTCPay
fancy Fairminters (commissions etc.). Prior to adding support for these features we'll be doing a lot of refactoring and implementing QoL improvements (RBF, CPFP e.g.). And then in parallel with support for these features we'll be doing a pretty big redesign of the wallet UX, which will include built-in support for atomic swaps.
Will keep you posted as things progress, but this is all to say that the feature work will slow down for the next few weeks as we take on these more substantial projects. Cheers.horizonHorizon Wallet
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ooooh adding RBF and CPFP??? Big.
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These are big changes obviously. Will take some time but we'll get there. But it's been like 6 months of non-stop feature work so just need to take a beat and do this more fundamental work.
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Oooh ya pepe like
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Funny question ?
🙋 with this potential bitcoin 2.0 deal and ada have you and Charles talked about any sort of play there with a potential co-integration?!
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Anyone know What's up with ipfs files? A few weeks ago the images were showing on Horizon explorer , now they are not? Even adding the ipfs prefix isn't working to show image? 🤷♀
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Thanks for the report. Will look into it now!
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yeah for sure. That's part of the refactoring and QoL stuff we're doing over the coming weeks.
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Q. where is destroy function found?
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Destroy command is only found on assets I've created?
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i think i should be able to destroy/burn any quantity i own.
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yeah was just a mistake. is being fixed now
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sweet. thanks.
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suggestion. password request is in the beginning of a session vs current requirement of password before signing/broadcast.
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Double click I. The password box if you saved a password it will show up
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i guess that's a work around
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but its nice to "signout" of a session
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even my chrome extension i just opened it, and i can view wallet contents. - yes not knowing the spending password it's in a "view only" state
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yeah we can add screen locking. there are different ways to do it. will give it a think and add it to the backlog
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Yes I thought that was goofy too
When I close it
Then reopen in from favorites
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for example I'm minting 100 fairmints. currently i need 100 password entries.
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Don’t use it at the library lol 😂
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Painful 😣
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password entry on every action is a legitimate tradeoff between security and usability
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we can change it but it's not some like wilful or arbitrary thing
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just an idea..
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once its multiple or bundle of transactions, the password entries becomes repetitive
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this shows a pretty serious misunderstanding of how wallet software works. Your password is tied to the specific instance which you're using; it's not your seed.
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and i mean a keylogger has that many more entries, but i do understand signing before broadcast is same logic as unisat or any other major wallet
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application is not wallet. its a fine line
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it's signfiicantly _more_ dangerous to use time-based unlocking wallet in a public space than a wallet which requires you to enter your password on every action. Given that you're a wallet user who apparently has a strong opinion on computer security you should be aware of this.
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i think this a fair statement for all financial concerns. public computers, are...public
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I know that lol no misunderstanding
I was just saying if I open the wallet immediately
My balance is shown like I’m in !
I like that but I thought it was odd is all.
And you do need to type password in each time to do transactions which is fine too.
I was saying I don’t type it in anymore I just double click and it auto fills from saved it’s not bad like that.
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I’m totally joking about the library haha hahah lmfao 🤣 I would hope no one would do that lol
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hiding balances is independent from keeping your wallet unlocked for a fixed amount of time after password entry. we can add one or the other or both.
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i think its more of having the wallet unlocked. wallet unlocked i mean being able to open the wallet and view contents
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Open for transactions once signed I think would be cool just an are you sure button and go maybe 30min ?!
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I will create issues for (1) password protecting read access and (2) not having to submit your password for every sign+broadcast, but rather making it time-based.
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I would say, if you add some kind of lock, let the users decide if they want the lock to be turned on or off. I like it the way it is now, since I am the only one using my computer. I do understand the other side too. Just my opinion.
- 09 January 2025 (6 messages)
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Hey so I bought off a xcp dispenser a while ago now wallet is still spinning ?!
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Update I see thanks
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fix for this has been deployed, thanks! if you see any other rendering issues with IPFS links please let us know.
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Oh hey, that is great! Thank you and have a super day!
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Update works great. Just yesterday, I was asking why IPFS links weren't displaying in Horizon and FW.
- 10 January 2025 (5 messages)
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Does anyone know how to change an ipfs image
I minted in rare pepe wallet and didn’t know I couldn’t change it after !
I have some real good ones and it drives me nuts that I can’t seem to change description?!
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Can see a lot tokens were bought from https://www.thecounterp.art/ 🔥
Someone got a moon bag 🌖LinkThe CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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Oh ya does anyone know who the maker is ?
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They were so inexpensive it was coo coo
- 11 January 2025 (14 messages)
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It would be cool if the owner would also put up sell orders on the CP DEX vs. XCP or pepecash. I like the DEX.
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you can currently do that on an asset's page.
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Tried to set up an order to "sell XCP / buy GHOST," but the interface displays "no results."
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I think this can be done in the wallet itself (open order)
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yes
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i think it is GHOSTS and not GHOST. try with S in the end
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the point of the orderbooks table on the asset view page is to match with an existing order. you can create a new order whether or not there's one matcihng in the wallet.
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GM - Looks like this is case-sensitive.. Try uppercase GHOSTS
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- 12 January 2025 (32 messages)
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Should be able to initiate from either end
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Yeah, it turns out that I just needed to log into the Horizon Wallet and issue an order from there.
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do you need BTC in horizon to accept a sweep or import a private key?
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👋 not necessary ton import a PK 🙂
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Congrats! Just curious, do you know who the buyer is?
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thank you for the report! were you buying or selling?
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did you log in to an account?
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you have 0 credits
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we give each new account 2 free credits to test out the process. it looks like you used yours.
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under your account click "Manage"
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for a number of reasons but most importantly psbt _listings_ aren't btc transactions, so it can create unnecessary costs for users to charge as part of the listing process.
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yes, you can buy either credits like that with btc or a monthly subscription with btc or stripe
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having said that: we will be adding an option to purchase credits without an account, i.e. by the listing. it's more expensive for users but as you said some users will want it to reduce friction.
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check your email for the payment link. once you purchase it takes 1 block to confirm payment and then purchase is effective
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no problem, thank you for the questions! we're working on making the onboarding process easier. we appreciate your patience in the meantime.
- 13 January 2025 (11 messages)
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GM! Can you get the Cursed Stamps image showing in the explorer as well?
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i bought couple tokens from there too, great directory 🔥
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hey can you give an example? we've got many stamps working
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BTW v1.6.4 is now available in the Chrome extension. Includes some additional validation for dividend payments + fix so now you can do a destroy on any asset you own.
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Works smooth on mobile. Pwa is nice
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*add to homescreen and you have a nice mobile CounterParty wallet.
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It’s essentially stamps on named assets, such as ONCHAINART. The images should be accessible through the Stampchain API, just like traditional stamps.
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So we're parisng those AFAICT:https://horizon.market/explorer/assets/ONCHAINART/subassets?offset=0&limit=10
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It’s not the sub-assets but the main asset that is named Stamp.
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gotcha okay. Will look into it. Thanks!
- 14 January 2025 (14 messages)
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Updated - 827 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/ded3909ac0834c297d269216c5b83c9e7bdc89b95c9c4c34461a4113d128a1f4 -- 0.00011500 -- 49 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/beeceb18d4c79babd4914aeb5af5b75a44a0f52222fd0155ff298d071f261ca8 -- 0.00012700 -- 245 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 23 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
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Hello folks at horizon. Thanks for adding destroy functionality!
I run a project called pixel pals and we noticed you don't allow special characters such as # in the memo.
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Hi @reganhimself. So I've asked this question before and folks didn't weigh in: MPMA can fail for subtle and hard-to-capture reasons because of their memos. Have there been similar issues with destroys?
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Not that I'm aware of
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When you say fail what exactly do you mean? Fail to send or show as invalid?
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So the MPMAs just fail to send sometimes and I believe it can be related to the type of memo that is sent. But in any case: what we'll do is allow all ASCII characters, including special characters. That should be safe. Will that work?
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Atm the project only looks for # in the memo however there are some things cooking in the background... So knowing a definitive lift of allowed / banned characters would be useful 🫡
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Yep got it! We'll add support for all ASCII characters. That'll cover your use-case.
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Cool, ok! Yeah obviously we want to be as flexible as possible but also want to make sure that users don't lose tx fees where possible.
- 15 January 2025 (9 messages)
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Mobile !! Oh ya got to give that a spin !!
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Any updates on that? I’d be interested as well!
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No update yet. Will LYK!
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So spoke to @reinamora_137. I think this may be a stampchain API issue. Will keep you posted.
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Yeah should be a quick fix on my end when I get to it
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New floors for XCP and PEPECASH atomic swaps 🐸
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Thanks guys, appreciate the support
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Will have it repaired today. Fix pending
- 16 January 2025 (12 messages)
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So hey do we have a mobile wallet now ? I haven’t checked ? Lately !?
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If you visit wallet on mobile. Go to menu and select "add to homescreen" it'll give you a mobile app experience without downloading software
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got few tokens from them https://www.thecounterp.art/ , was too late on a few too. someone bought many best tokens alreadyLink
The CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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Some of these assets were issued shortly after Counterparty's creation. It's pretty awesome to see them revitalized like this.
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Actually GIFT, IRON and GLASS were all issued in the same block. Wild.
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there are plenty creators who do not want to disclose themself, look at rare pepe. It makes collecting more interesting.
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When we set up a dispenser the way it’s set up the next alley creates a new btc addy for it right
Thus you can’t access that wallet to take funds out only through horizon ?!
Unless I’m missing something?
So my computer fried and want to see if I can access funds from mobile ?! - 17 January 2025 (66 messages)
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Wooow I clicked that link and I knew it was me my wallet works on my phone !
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Ya under a different wallet ha shhh 🤫
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I don't understand what your question is.
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Well maybe. There isn’t one lol
So when I set up a dispenser with the new system
It creates a wallet for that specifically.
Is that wallet attached to my original wallet same as if I just added more wallets in my free wallet or does it have its own seed phrase ?
My issue is all the wallets I’ve created for dispensers I can take the money out of once you have a sale in multiple ways.
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In my account on horizon wallet mobile
It shows my main addy if I want to even view how much is in the dispenser addy I need to get out copy it and go to explorer
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It's more nuanced than this. Horizon is a BIP84 wallet, which means that it supports multiple _accounts_ within the same _wallet_. An account may contain 1 or more addresses, and coins from one account cannot be spent by another. To learn more about accounts refer to the BIP 44 documentation: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki
Because Counterparty doesn't allow multiple source addresses per tx we thought it best to have only one address per account (otherwise your account could, for example, have a balance that could not be spent all at once), so when you open a dispenser on a new address it does so at an address in a new account.
Account generation is deterministic so accounts created can reliably be regenerated if e.g. you delete your wallet from your device and restore from your seed.
If you want to import your Horizon seed into another wallet and you have multiple active accounts in your wallet then the wallet into which you're importing your seed needs to support multiple accounts, too. Alternatively, you can just import the private key associated with the address at the account into that wallet.bips/bip-0044.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bipsBitcoin Improvement Proposals. Contribute to bitcoin/bips development by creating an account on GitHub.
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We tried to explain all of this in the account creation workflow when opening a dispenser at a new address and in the Reset Wallet workflow. If we can improve those instructions please let us know how.
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You need to import private keys for that dispenser wallet.
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That is not at all what I said.
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I know but no one is swapping in a new private key each time they want to move funds I don’t think ?
Or do they have multiple horizon wallets open at once ?
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I’m sure it’s painful. Because you’re so dang smart and this is like second nature to you.
But that auto dispenser creation. Kind of gave me a bit of the “oh shits “
How do I get $ out of it
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I am not sure what you want me to say here. What you want to do can be done by importing private keys where necessary between freewallet and horizon wallet.
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Wallets implement different standards and you cannot rely on them to all follow the same ones.
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K I guess what I’d like to. Know is what the others are doing ?!
That just seems too clumbsy to be doing all the time
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Yes indeed I’ve seen that with phantom and Xverse and others. Importing keys over seed is a slam dunk that your getting the adress imported.
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I could really see adding created dispensers tab on the accounts area of your wallet making things pretty amazing.
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Yep we're currently redesigning the wallet and trying to keep things like this in mind.
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Cool 😎
I like to break shit
So if you’re doing any beta I’ll break it for you !!
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Me with eth lol I’m kinda Lenny haha
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Hahah yup lol haha 😂
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cody has a cool style
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Lots of Lenny to come lol 😂
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reading through this spec - there is a section on account discovery, so in theory, if a user imports their horizon seed where they previously created multiple accounts, could/does horizon keep ‘discovering’ until it finds all the accounts previously created at that seed?
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yep exactly
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account generation is deterministic.
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so does it find all the accounts you used for you automatically? or you have to keep adding them yourself
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the current milestone includes having the wallet take care of this for you but atm user has to do it
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Future seems bright
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MEETLENNY
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One a day let’s see if they get better ❤️🩹
You can be the judge
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Just some feedback as a long time crypto user;
The setup of Horizon wallet has WAY too much friction. I like to compare with Phantom (a UI / UX dream!) or Metamask, which are major wallets with tens of millions of users.
Phantom: Completed first time setup procedure in 8 seconds!
Horizon: Took me more than 2 minutes
Suggestion: Do NOT prevent copying the seed words to the clipboard, which forces the user to manually type them. Display a warning instead.
Another thing: A "what's new" or "explore" button in the wallet would be great and help new users get started. See Phantom, Metamask
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Appreciate the feedback! The copying seed thing naturally attracts strong opinions on both sides but I hear you - will consider it.
Yep a "What's New" section could be cool! Once we have the redesign + swaps in-place it could be good to add this but would want to understand how this data is sourced (if it extends beyond Horizon). We don't have the resources to provide those kinds of updates ourselves atm. -
Okay I must say I love when you got to trigger a dispenser that it shows you what your getting
A much better feel that the past especially if your new to it !!
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Official Mint website - 0.000022 btc or FREE is you're in the WL. LFG! 🚀👊
https://chainlegends.artonchain.net/Chain Legends by MasterOnChainChain Legends by MasterOnChain is a fully on-chain 10k SRC721 PFP collection on the Bitcoin Stamps protocol, utilizing Counterparty with Olga encoding. Chain Legends is for those who are passionate about creativity, self-expression, and building a vibrant, decentralized community. It's for the innovators and dreamers who want to unleash their imagination and connect with others through unique crypto avatars.
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Haha I’m always up for some LFG ! Vibes
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One line of css and these images will appear crisp.
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Oh wait I’m on the fence with these pixilated pfp ones are there any with some pazzazz
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In this file
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Simply replace the existing image in the zip with your art (named the same) or change the references in the HTML. This will show you how your Stamp will scale.
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Oh k there we go alway need a Mike to make stamps sound like a good idea !! LFG MIKE king stamp man !!
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Oh perfect that’s what I needed great. Tool !!
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Hmm do I need to open that on a computator to upload art ? It has no options on my phone rn
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Oh man still unisat wallet only eh grrrr I’m resisting haha not sure why lol
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Images already have image-rendering:pixelated; set, but since those are svgs, I think the issue could be within the svg file.
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Hold on, I might miss the full picture with the various prefixes needed.
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You need a stamp chat lol
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3 1/2 hours to get some xcp layer 2 solutions will be needed. For sure ! Ssssssllllloooooow
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Maybe one day I’ll understand
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Transactions must have heard me lol 😂 boom 💥 ha
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This looks like a hit list lol my wife wondered what the heck
Ha !! - 18 January 2025 (7 messages)
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Joined.
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$Trump pump incoming
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Hahah should be a horizon Link l Iol
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A good comparison
- 19 January 2025 (2 messages)
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Joined.
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- 20 January 2025 (20 messages)
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Gggggraaaabed
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OK Web Store finally accepted v1.6.5 of the wallet. now all ascii characters are supported.
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Joined.
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Ty ser
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RBF support is now available in the Horizon web wallet: https://wallet.unspendablelabs.com! Should be available in the extension in the next couple of days.
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WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE HORIZON MARKET TO ACCEPT BTCEBT(BTCWELFARE) & FAKE MONIES(FREEMONEYS) AS CURRENCIES OF TRADE ON HORIZON.MARKET SIMILAR TO HOW YOU CAN TRADE IN XCP OR PEPECASH??
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you can trade any Counterparty asset for any other Counterparty asset on Horizon.
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I KNOW. WAS JUST JOKING BC I HAVE NO BTC OR XCP SO I CAN’T SWAP ATOMICS AS THEY SAY HAHAHA BUT MY BTCWELFARE HIT & IM BTCEBT HEAVY
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Open dispenser for BTCWELFARE and FREEMONEYS it looks like
https://horizon.market/explorer/assets/BTCWELFARE?marketsTab=dispensers
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Buy some BTC and XCP and you'll be good!
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We need a ai agent for horizon Markets
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i can build one but it costs $$ to run
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i built the ai chatbot on https://pepeflags.artHome
Pepe Flags: NFT Art Redefined Each Pepe The Frog Flag is minted on CounterpartyBitcoin's Layer 2 Protocol Meets Meme Magic US State Flags Minted 0 Mints Per Flag 0 Floor Price $ 0 Counterparty Protocol bitcoin / counterparty See the entire collection: View Collection click here for how to
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Cool!
- 21 January 2025 (6 messages)
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thank u
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New friend
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Updated - 1166 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f74a1ddec875d2b6dc8052abf63e82e8fe8a2d2d21310c2f3aff3323863670af -- 0.00010840 -- 428 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 215 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 13 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- Current atomic swaps listings: https://horizon.market
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Hard at it again I see !! LFG !!
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So you gents know with my dispenser oddness I just had To close out and reload my wallet seed then voooolila
The auto generated dispenser showed up on the side like I am assuming it’s suppose to !
Now I could actully see how setting them up this way could be pretty cool
Especially if they all end up just being on the edge of the wallet like that !!
Easy to see and know what’s up at a glance !!😘❤️ - 22 January 2025 (20 messages)
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Hi, all. I am happy to share a first version of Counterparty collections on Horizon. Plenty of work to do on the UI side, more collections to add, need to integrate it into the market as other NFT marketplaces do, but please check it out! https://horizon.market/explorer/collections
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Awesome!
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I may have some feeds for you to add other projects such as kaleidoscope etc
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I run a nunber of art bots for xcp projects
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great, yeah. kaleidoscope conflicts with some other collections (they overwrite XCP's description for example lol) so we have to deduplicate. but yeah we're definitely working on adding more.
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Yh pepecash lol
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Sweet well i got feeds for fake apes, droolingapes, mafiawars etc
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@PeriwigReascends is there a process for getting a collection displayed on the market?
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we're working on that next, actually
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got a long backlog. think it will be a few weeks.
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This is big!!
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I envision a day where all the rare pepe trading taking place on opensea will move to counterparty itself, where it belongs
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we're doing what we can to make that happen. next thing is to integrate attach/detach directly into the market; in parallel we're working on adding swaps directly to the wallet. it's a big effort but we're well on the way.
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no hate on horizon, but you want normies in on the action? - xcp.io is the best UI and place for it imo..... amazing price history (for everything... dex, scarcecity, eth, dispensers etc)
it looks and feels like Magic Eden and is so easy to understand (and it shows cool CIP25 style artwork too!)
you add a 1 click ez buy setup on that website (and it could accomadate alot of wallets FW, Horizon, Unisat, RPW etc.) ..... and i think xcp moon -
yep dan's done a great job with xcp.io (that work he did gathering market data was a huge contribution). we're working on the next iteration of the Horizon UI over the coming weeks.
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hell you give me a website like that with all xcp wallets supported, charge big ol fees i dont care - it would be a one stop shop for everything
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hell yeah, excited to see it
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will continue being an iterative process. As you said, the end-goal should be to approximate ME's UX. We'll get there.
- 23 January 2025 (2 messages)
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Hi, everyone! Happy to share that RBF support is now available in the extension with the latest release (v1.7.2). Should be very straightforward to use but if you run into any issues please let me know.
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Updated - 1117 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/db7f07a509a556d3fb20ef424d5192f159bf54a9e624dda3e9422fc7e8bb880a -- 0.00009500 -- 38 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f74a1ddec875d2b6dc8052abf63e82e8fe8a2d2d21310c2f3aff3323863670af -- 0.00010840 -- 341 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 215 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 13 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Current atomic swaps listings: https://horizon.market
- OTC: 1000 XCP currently available @ 11000 sat 🔥 - DM for info - 25 January 2025 (1 messages)
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- 26 January 2025 (5 messages)
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WHAT DO THE “CREDITS” ALLOW YOU TO DO ON HORIZON.MARKET ?
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List stuff for sale on the atomic swaps marketplace
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TWAS WHAT I THOUGHT… SO IS EACH CREDIT A SWAP?
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Updated - 1183 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f6d09a760049ab018f7258d9334ab4c03f6257ca4316dff08cbfadc8a12e43ac -- 0.00009500 -- 25 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/56f833e7f986c41b7f93d28cd9aabd3916df9de088dc8cb5c568065e81d8d8bd -- 0.00009960 -- 503 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 145 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Current atomic swaps listings: https://horizon.market
- Larger XCP blocks are often available OTC - DM for current availability - 30 January 2025 (11 messages)
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https://www.thecounterp.art/series2
have you seen?
They launched series 2 today.
another great work by the team.. impressive and clean website just like the art they do...LinkThe CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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yeah not sure who's behind this but another great collection.
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I don't know either, but the new collection, with such an idea (puzzle) is great!!🤯
- 31 January 2025 (34 messages)
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Yes… and I was on a spamming the blockchain mission today and I must say mobile wallet is working like clock work !!
I need to file a. Compliment on git hub haha
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Okay I would like to see in asset creation one more line to add a description JSON file that would be nice
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Hi
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Am i able to import private keys from freewallet to horizon?
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Random question… have any of you ever used COUNTERCORD on your discord groups to token gate xcp assets?
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Yes if you create a new horizon wallet or import an existing wallet, when the wallet opens there is an option to import a private key. You will see the option when you click the settings button on the top right
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Link?
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Xcp.io/asset/COUNTERCORDCOUNTERCORD Asset Info - XCP.io
View details for Counterparty asset COUNTERCORD
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Hello,
I've noticed when using the Horizon explorer a rather frequent discrepancy between the "supply" of a particular asset and the "balances" (holders) of the same asset.
For example, the asset DORAEMON has a "supply" of 11.
https://horizon.market/explorer/assets/DORAEMON?marketsTab=swaps
But if I add up the QTY held by the 3 addresses holding the asset, there appear to be only 9 DORAEMON accounted for:
https://horizon.market/explorer/assets/DORAEMON/balances?sort=quantity%3Adesc
Where are the other 2 DORAEMON tokens?
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I nominate this collection to be added to the list:
https://www.thecounterp.art/
"The Counterpart"LinkThe CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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because there are open dispensers and orders which escrow balances.
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Like when buying xcp or sending it
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Yeah, it was a bit confusing to me, but Evan's explanation that the tokens held in dispensers are part of the total supply makes sense. I'll try looking at the other assets that way and see if it clears up my confusion.
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yes, this isn't a Horizon thing. To my knowledge this has always been how Counterparty does things.
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Yes, I noticed the same phenomenon on tokenscan, but I was not sure if it would be appropriate to mention that name here (is it verboten?).
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lol no. but yeah it's just Counterparty. if you look at the results returned by the API you'll see the same thing.
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Mems the word 🤫
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Ya I wondered too ?
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Do tell ?!
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On the backend there is no price for an order, just give_quantity/get_quantity, so if you want to maintain the same ratio but change the numbers you can lock the price. useful for order matching since the Counterparty dex is a limit orderbook
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It's meant to work in conjunction with triggering orders from the asset details page. So clicking "BUY" on this open order would trigger the order modal in the wallet and, if you didn't have sufficient XCP to or didn't want to match with the whole order, you could lock the price, decrement the quantity and still match with the open order.
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IM SURE I COULD PROBABLY GET YOU ONE IF YOU NEEDED IT OR AT LEAST THE COUNTERCORD.CASH I HAVE A LOT OF THAT HAHA
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