• 02 July 2025 (5 messages)
  • email is no longer required to list and purchase
  • Sweet. 👌
  • anyone can use their preferred mechanism to buy and sell assets, however swaps are trustless and have no risk associated with them. for new users especially swaps is certainly the better option.
  • actually email is no longer required at all, you can create assets and mint just by connecting your wallet
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5156 #5157 11:06 PM, 02 Jul 2025
    When will be able to create inscription based assets
  • 03 July 2025 (38 messages)
  • Ya I get it I like the idea of atomic swaps but seems odd they don’t show up across the system ?
    Kindof only in the wallet initiated eh
    I did one in rarepepwallet
    And doesn’t show in horizon
    That I can find ?
    Is there a special way to do it ?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5158 #5159 01:14 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    If you wanted them to show up on the explorer like a regular tx, it would cost an additional tx (fee) everytime you list one for sale (if it was designed like that)
  • @XCERXCP #5160 01:15 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    Someone will need to create an aggregator site to compile all available swaps across different sites to get what you want
  • @XCERXCP #5161 01:16 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
  • @XCERXCP #5162 01:17 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    The design is way better the way it is, once the nft is enveloped, no txs are ever required to put it up for sale
  • Once your asset is bound to a utxo. You need to create a sell order on each market you choose to use. Broadcasting a psbt sell request does not require a fee, unless we are discussing the market place like Horizon where there is a $2 platform fee.
  • And no it isn't wallet exclusive, as Horizon market also supports Unisat wallet. The order you created in RPW is RPW market exclusively
  • Need more practice
  • Oh k I see
    Hmm
    Feels complicated asf
    Dispensers are better I still think !
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #5167 #5168 05:11 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    It's quite easy in fact, and much safer for the buyer. You can't lose BTC by being frontrun.

    I'm getting used to it by working on Alkane protocol, I will implement something easy to use when I get some time
  • @ffmad #5169 05:11 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    Dispensers are easy for the seller, but dangerous for the buyer
  • @ffmad #5170 05:12 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    Utxos marketplace can be a little more complicated for the seller, but totally safe and simple for the buyer
  • @deltay99 ↶ Reply to #5120 #5171 06:56 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    Removing the listing fee, at least temporarily, surely can't hurt horizon revenue (since there is not much activity right now) and might boost adoption by reducing friction! @teysol thoughts ?
  • @nl_tony #5172 07:08 AM, 03 Jul 2025
    Hi Horizon Market, a few days ago I updated a json for one of my collections which is hosted at GH.
    Are you recrawling once in a while so collection get updated?
  • Hmm ya I’ve had one issue with a dispenser and it was cleared up right way
    Two buyers at once basically
    Other than that I’ve done thousands of dispensers as a buyer and really had no issue.
    I feel they are simpler and should just be looked at again to increase the possible ?! Risks.
    And or the utxo swaps made much much easier and more searchable.
    I’ve got other ideas too hahab
    They are in another chat ! Haha
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5173 #5174 01:07 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    That doesn’t work at scale

    Only works because we are so small
  • @XCERXCP #5175 01:08 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    All it takes is one bad actor to demolish dispensers reputation tbh
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #5175 #5176 01:10 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Even without bad actors, we've seen Niftyboss spending days on 1 dispensers that went wrong
  • @XCERXCP #5177 01:10 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Dispensers are awesome for known trusted sellers

    Exp: businesses, personal websites, etc…
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5176 #5178 01:10 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    That’s true
  • @ffmad #5179 01:10 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    It's insane to rely on this at scale
  • @codythecampbell #5180 01:58 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Let’s see some scale baby
    It still blows my mind how many people have no idea
    And also I feel it’s way easier to buy and build on counterparty than on eth talk about scammy ness
    Eth is fuuuul of it
    I was asked to put art in a project so I did then I went to mint some for support and I ended ip minting a scam token hahah
    That doesn’t happen in counterparty
    The token name is the token name lol
  • @codythecampbell #5181 02:56 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Any word on description issue with BTCATHCLUB ?
  • @codythecampbell #5183 02:56 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Description still not. Available to change ?! A bug
  • @vectorconfetti #5184 03:08 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    yep Dime already responded and i am sure the team will get to it in time
  • @vectorconfetti #5185 03:08 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    @codythecampbell yeah just looks like a small bug in the Horizon UI. the asset description is not locked but looks like we are just checking the locked supply in the UI. filed a bug.
    {
    "asset": "BTCATHCLUB",
    "asset_id": "9413510514357",
    "asset_longname": null,
    "issuer": "14xyFwHGmrGJjGtMbjJoJHqrLZvf6MibYU",
    "owner": "14xyFwHGmrGJjGtMbjJoJHqrLZvf6MibYU",
    "divisible": false,
    "locked": true,
    "supply": 35,
    "description": "welcome to all time high club we stack sats no matter what ",
    "description_locked": false,
    "first_issuance_block_index": 897630,
    "last_issuance_block_index": 898991,
    "mime_type": "text/plain",
    "first_issuance_block_time": 1747790184,
    "last_issuance_block_time": 1748571014,
    "supply_normalized": "35"
    }
  • not sure of the timeline but I am eagerly awaiting as well🙏
  • @mikeinspace
  • @7640592433 ↶ Reply to #5171 #5188 06:04 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Yes exactly. The second bigger user benefit after being unruggable unlike dispensers is that UTXO/atomic swap reduce the requirement to pay to list. It can open up insane activity and finally a true representation of market
  • @7640592433 #5189 06:04 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    @mikeinspace Can you add all the old 2015-2020 Counterparty collections to Horizon Market
  • There is a process in place whereby a JSON file for a collection can be submitted to Horizon (through me). At the moment it’s kind of manual but long-term it will be more automated. So all it takes is for a collection maintainer to submit a JSON feed to have their collection appear in Horizon.
  • I’ll ask around. That being said, the devs likely have their hands full.
  • @deltay99 ↶ Reply to #5157 #5192 06:47 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Curious to see how much the very first ones will sell for ⚡️
  • @deltay99 #5193 06:48 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Perhaps one day they will be as legendary as TEST or RAREPEPE
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5193 #5194 07:21 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    Interesting thought process as every passing second becomes less of a gap percentage of the years
  • @XCERXCP #5195 07:23 PM, 03 Jul 2025
    For example, a 1-year-old NFT compared to a 10-year-old NFT is 9 times younger.
    But in 100 years, that same 9-year age gap only makes the older NFT 1.1x as old, a much smaller difference.
  • 04 July 2025 (1 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5196 11:47 AM, 04 Jul 2025
    Yaaa man
    Current cultural relevance during the 4th turning will be valued !
    Ie. now
  • 07 July 2025 (1 messages)
  • @7311927038 #5197 02:26 PM, 07 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • 09 July 2025 (10 messages)
  • @WRBPT #5201 05:10 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    Is there a way to list a bulk quantity of art so buyers can purchase individual units? I listed an item with a quantity of 426, expecting buyers could purchase single units, but it seems they can only buy the full quantity at once. Is there a way to enable per-unit purchases?
  • atomic swaps in general are all or nothing, no partial fills. a buyer can only buy the full quantity. You’d have to attach them in smaller groups that you want to sell and list each group individually
  • @WRBPT #5203 05:15 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    is it possible this can be tweaked to allow it? or is this just what it is and no way so that it can be?
  • @WRBPT #5204 05:15 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    thank u Vector
  • @vectorconfetti #5205 05:17 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    NP! That’s the nature of atomic swaps and can’t be changed. The asset group is attached to a UTXO and then all operations are atomic on that attached asset group
  • @WRBPT #5206 05:18 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    hey not complaining at all. XD
  • @vectorconfetti #5207 05:19 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    didn’t think you were!
  • @WRBPT #5208 05:19 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    😝
  • @LongbranchBear #5209 09:11 PM, 09 Jul 2025
    Can you guys un ban me from your counterparty chat please? I promise not to say hurty words
  • 10 July 2025 (8 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5211 03:58 AM, 10 Jul 2025
    I figured out “og” eth NFTs I think
    It’s soothing lol
  • @codythecampbell #5212 03:59 AM, 10 Jul 2025
    Can’t believe Raul pal ?! Or how ever the hell you spell his name lol 😂
  • @Niftyboss1 #5213 08:33 AM, 10 Jul 2025
    Updated - 1610 XCP available on verified dispensers

    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/76b419fc97eed8ebf3ee9cd4e90e12d9fc447e18131f62c09d0afd7f63e1265f -- 0.00004740 -- 201 XCP
    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/c90f2b397e0d5719e5104b698e87f93bcf6143022e8b034811f45f733fb3d5d1 -- 0.00006000 -- 200 XCP
    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/4cfea6d7ab22f516bd212b38b8a2a63ee74ade9faa96c5e527dbe75208e87a58 -- 0.00006800 -- 100 XCP
    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/d148d13e3cbca68f9b2a695a7bfa43f1ff4d9e7b3e96fd669f88346ec23261c5 -- 0.00006900 -- 500 XCP
    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/8ccca1bee6708203b5b71e7640c43c7a57482fa3830bc8ff177a04c1e9656ab5 -- 0.00007499 -- 239 XCP
    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/9a48249eddc53485685764816c0271ac42da0c07fd5bc4af26223c9d9da6cd21 -- 0.00009760 -- 220 XCP
    https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/36cf9bde3243fe5d82cb7113f93801680385d30827675ae0c2af612b9503abd3 -- 0.00009999 -- 150 XCP

    - As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
    Horizon Market | Trade Bitcoin NFTs & Counterparty Tokens

    Horizon Market is the home for Bitcoin NFTs like Rare Pepes and Spells of Genesis. Trade Counterparty assets with trustless, one-confirmation swaps.

  • Cmon, at least pute.on read only... I can't even see the chats existence
  • How can he not be allowed ? Idongetit
  • I was being mean
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5215 #5218 06:05 PM, 10 Jul 2025
    Not everyone has all day to be on TG… these guys are actually working
  • 11 July 2025 (3 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5220 03:58 AM, 11 Jul 2025
    Oh hahaha that’s priceless
    Yes me too
    How did you day go ?
    I am so busy it’s wild I can ever be on here
    I guess is a crazy passion. lol 😂
  • You’ll be nice ish now right ! Lol
  • Yes I get that I sort of assume wrongly I guess that they work on this full time.
    One day I will
    I guess still day jobs like all of us shleps eh
  • 12 July 2025 (24 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5223 04:24 AM, 12 Jul 2025
    So question
    @teysol
    You’re working on a new wallet and explorer right?
    Will we be able to see all the details we put into our tokens ?
    I put three images on SOOTHINGPUNK
    two digital
    One hand drawn and Also the typed out description
    Is I feel important? To the story often ?!
    And I can’t see how to view it
    So I default to tokenscan
    As I’m sure most people do
    ? Upgrading. ? I hope or please due tell.
  • @codythecampbell #5224 04:25 AM, 12 Jul 2025
    Infeel we could all use fun new great news ?!
    Or am I alone here ? @HNFTPEPE
    @x_nardo
    @everone haha
  • @codythecampbell #5225 04:25 AM, 12 Jul 2025
  • @codythecampbell #5226 01:50 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    A sad day will be if multidispensers die
  • @mnlclassic #5227 03:01 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    dispensers could kill counterparty
  • @mnlclassic #5228 03:03 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    let's say it gets momentum, then people use the dispensers, then scammers show up (they're already here) to scale up aswell, then the new momentum would probably be stopped
  • @mnlclassic #5229 03:04 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    since people would conclude that it's not usable without big risks
  • @HNFTPEPE #5230 03:37 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    this is why i think atomic swaps could be a solid solution for trading CP assets

    imo dispensers are great for reputable Artists
  • @HNFTPEPE #5231 05:52 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    gm gm Horizon team

    when will the next collection add/update be?
  • Let me talk with the devs. The hosted JSON files should be occasionally crawled to pickup changes though I’m unsure if the devs have that in place yet. Will let you know
  • @HNFTPEPE ↶ Reply to #5232 #5233 09:04 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    cool, thanks Mike
  • How does it work? Is it a GitHub repo we can make a pr to and once approved they slurp data from that repo into their collections page?
  • @HNFTPEPE ↶ Reply to #5234 #5235 09:33 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    @mikeinspace

    not sure if its possible but it would be rad to be able to add collections on our own. similar to XCP/Stamped Ninja
  • @herpenstein #5236 09:36 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    I know the big players in the ordinals space have repos and anyone can make pr for their collection and if that passes their sanity check on json validity, they merge those prs and the collections show up on their sites
  • @herpenstein #5237 09:38 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    Nvm perhaps I’m 2 years in the past
  • @herpenstein #5239 09:38 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    That is how they used to do it
  • @HNFTPEPE ↶ Reply to #5239 #5240 09:50 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    thanks for sharing ser. prob something the dev team cna benefit from.

    any idea how Ninja implemented their "create your own collection" on their website?
  • Get to work on safeguards I’d say haha
    There has to be a way.
    Maybe it’s atomic dispensers
    So you could still make multidispensers ?!
  • Hmmm
  • Maybe you could have a qualified dispenser
    Tag or something?
    I mean eth is fuuuuuul if scammy shit that’s “reputable “
    And 0 recourse over there ?!
  • Mike are you our official
    Liaison for counterparty iquireies ?
  • Hahah love it
    Slurp
  • @HNFTPEPE ↶ Reply to #5243 #5246 11:22 PM, 12 Jul 2025
    at one pt Viva had his avail dispensers on his official website
  • 13 July 2025 (9 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5247 12:27 AM, 13 Jul 2025
    I think a proper verification badge
    No different than anything in crypto world
    Buyer use their brain
  • @flookee007 #5249 02:47 AM, 13 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • Not sure I’m official anything as Counterparty is an open protocol. But I am consulting with Unspendable Labs and currently helping out with Collections until there is a more automated process in place.
  • Yes. That is the long-term plan: automation
  • Presently it’s a very informal process. When a JSON file is passed along to me I pass it along to the Horizon market devs
  • Your doing great Mike thanks 🙏🏼
  • @codythecampbell #5254 12:21 PM, 13 Jul 2025
    Okay this is fun and I’m not sure why It happens but when I open my horizon. Wallet it blinks for a second. And for a while now always Shows me this issuance. That I made quite a while ago after @x_nardo made the citadel!
    Why I wondered ?

    THEEARLIES
    Always shows up
    Maybe the universe is yelling at me to make some
    Art ?
  • @codythecampbell #5255 01:17 PM, 13 Jul 2025
    @x_nardo
    If you have art ideas for that too I’d gladly send that name to you ! It’s kinda perfect for saylors boardrooom !!
  • @codythecampbell #5256 01:17 PM, 13 Jul 2025
    He was one of the corporate earlies
  • 14 July 2025 (3 messages)
  • I've heard back. The crawler runs at 00:01 GMT everyday. Could you DM me the specifics detailing what's been added/changed that is not being reflected on Horizon Market?
  • @HNFTPEPE ↶ Reply to #5257 #5258 09:16 PM, 14 Jul 2025
    will DM, thanks
  • this is likely not a horizon bug but a previous transaction having been invalidated/overridden. if you send the full txid I can take a look.
  • 15 July 2025 (23 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5260 12:00 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    It only blinks for a second mill have to scroll back a long ways but I will
    Still cool to see
  • @codythecampbell #5261 12:00 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    I just opened it and same thing haha
    Have to be Johnny on the spot to get a screen shot haha
  • @8122648065 #5262 12:01 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @DLEVVEN #5263 12:02 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • 10-4
  • Oh Adam your not the real Adam
    I’ll get right on that
  • @codythecampbell #5269 12:47 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    You can if you want though because I’d always like to talk to you!! Haha
  • @codythecampbell #5270 12:48 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    @teysol
    Imposter alert boss man
    Or maybe I ask
    @mikeinspace
  • @Soft_is_him #5271 09:30 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @5816946784 #5272 10:19 AM, 15 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @deltay99 #5274 01:12 PM, 15 Jul 2025
  • @codythecampbell #5275 01:46 PM, 15 Jul 2025
    Hey so what’s this ?
    Mean
  • @codythecampbell #5276 01:47 PM, 15 Jul 2025
    I tried again and it sent but ?
    Minidfied nu ?
  • @codythecampbell #5277 01:47 PM, 15 Jul 2025
    Seems like a card name Hhahaha
  • @HNFTPEPE #5279 02:22 PM, 15 Jul 2025
    lfg thanks Horizon 🫡
  • @kennet008 #5280 02:38 PM, 15 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • minified errors are a known issue currently being addresses; these are API errors not being properly displayed.
  • @codythecampbell #5284 05:00 PM, 15 Jul 2025
  • @codythecampbell #5285 05:00 PM, 15 Jul 2025
    Hahaha yeees I’ve been annoyingly asking about this haha fantastic to see
  • 16 July 2025 (13 messages)
  • @Josh14 #5286 09:23 AM, 16 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @codythecampbell #5287 03:59 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    So what’s happening with the
  • @codythecampbell #5288 04:00 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    Minified:nU ?
    Keeps popping up
    I know new things are brewing ?
    Should we hold off ? Or what’s the deal
  • @teysol #5289 05:43 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    Looks like a UI bug. Will investigate 👍
  • @6517313784 ↶ Reply to #5288 #5290 05:45 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    what things are brewing ?
  • @teysol #5291 05:47 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    @codythecampbell do you see that error for all fees rates? what transaction type they are trying to compose?
  • @codythecampbell #5292 05:50 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    It’s only every once and a while i wait a few min and try again then it goes
    But last time it wasn’t going after 3-4 tries so I dropped that
  • And fee rates don’t know
    Recommend on that pops up is basically the only one causing issues
    I think
    We won’t know for a while know
    Hha
    AINT GOT NO GAS
    lol
    If I get some sales or something I’ll try more hahah
  • @codythecampbell #5294 05:52 PM, 16 Jul 2025
  • @codythecampbell #5295 05:52 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    @teysol
    You want to buy some cards ??
  • @codythecampbell #5296 09:55 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    Okay so THEEARLIES
    I THOUGHT I issued it
    Remember it kept showing up in my wallet when I opened it
    Well now it shows up and doesnt go away ?
    Odd
  • @codythecampbell #5298 09:56 PM, 16 Jul 2025
    Also ARTFORCE I GUESS. It never went ?
    Any ideas ?
    Maybe big brains check my wallet?
    Voodoo wallet
  • 17 July 2025 (15 messages)
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5300 06:09 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Well, since you haven't got any official response yet (kinda shitty to have a support chat room and get no support when questions are asked).... Based on what I have seen in the past when "weird" stuff like this happens where things dont appear on tokenscan (which only shows transactions which were actually ON the counterparty ledger).... this is prolly a case of you using horizons tools which relies on their middleware layer (talks to counterparty to pull some data, but then also stores its own set of data) which seems to think you created and broadcast a transaction to issue THEEARLIES and THEARTFORCE... and hands you back a tx hash as if it actually a transaction.... but the reality of the situation is, their middleware layer is out of sync with what is ACTUALLY showing on the counterparty ledger... so you wind up with results like this, where their horizon tools indicate stuff which shows as valid in their system, but is not visible anywhere else..

    This is why I wrote counterparty2mysql which pulls data directly from the counterparty ledger and shows only things that are valid on the counterparty ledger.... writing a middleware layer, while it might seem like a good idea, quite often leads to problems like this, where you rely on the middleware layer to have good data, when the reality of the situation is that is not always the case.... hence why it is best to always rely directly on the counterparty data and pull data from it and not a middleware layer.

    This situation reminds me of the questions being asked about TOOFUNNYPEPE and why things were showing up as valid on horizon, but not on other explorers which use the actual cp ledger (tokenscan.io, xcp.io, etc).. and in that case it turned out to be

    1. TOOFUNNYPEPE transaction being generated using an unreleased version of counterparty with a changed issuance format

    2. The horizon middleware layer indicating that the transaction was valid because it was pulling the wrong field from its middleware layer and not relying on the counterparty ledger status field to determine the status of the transaction.

    If I am incorrect, feel free to speak up and correct me (tho I suspect that this comment will just be blatantly deleted rather than addressed)...
  • @codythecampbell #5302 06:59 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Thanks
    I mean I’ve been promoting and useing counterparty like a wild man mainly because of the history and the great people around here
    But it’s honestly Pretty rough when I thought I did some stuff when I wanted to for a reason
    Like the earlies I tried issued the day nardo showed the world his citadel.
    I feel like I don’t matter honestly.
    Thanks again @ChiefSamyaza
    Jdogs sock.
    For being there for the community.

    Appreciation matters support matters
    Giving a fuck matters

    “I may move on to other things” not like you care
  • @teysol #5303 07:25 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Horizon doesn't use any middleware at all.
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5304 08:15 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    The Unspendable Labs API is correctly reporting that issuance as invalid. We think it's a UI issue that's causing it to be labeled as valid in Horizon. We're looking into it now.
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5305 08:15 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    What can the Unspendable Labs API do?
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5306 08:15 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    That's the API used by Horizon
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5307 08:15 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Initial investigation shows that it's something weird about how asset "resets" are handled. (The implementation is terrible. :/)

    This API call for instance shows both valid and invalid status for the same transaction:

    ~ > http 'https://api.unspendablelabs.com:4000/v2/transactions/9adf03f0e989eb825a7b888148603fe3179aa49abb0d0cfe4a39f7e10ccc1b6a?verbose=true' | jq .result.unpacked_data.message_data.status
    "valid"
    ~ > http 'https://api.unspendablelabs.com:4000/v2/transactions/9adf03f0e989eb825a7b888148603fe3179aa49abb0d0cfe4a39f7e10ccc1b6a?verbose=true' | jq .result.events[].params.status
    "invalid: cannot reset a non existent asset"

    Horizon is seemingly using a different field from the one used by Tokenscan, and it's not a versioning thing.
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5308 08:15 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Yep confirmed. So the two statuses report different things: the outer status is the validity of the transaction; the inner one is the validity of the resulting issuance. Everything is behaving correctly; just different explorers showing the same data differently. (Fwiw this is an edge case. It showed up just because someone was running pre-release nodes and producing some invalid transactions.)
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5309 08:16 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Got it…. Used a word “middleware” instead of ur preferred term horizon api…. In any case, I believe my assumption about why you’re showing transactions in your wallet that don’t show up anywhere on the counterparty ledger is true….

    If you don’t use any middleware and prefer to call it, the horizon API, then that’s perfectly fine. We’re talking about terminology, but the underlying principle of your system holding data and thinking transactions are valid, which are not on the counterparty ledger is the core point
  • @ChiefSamyaza #5310 08:18 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Anyway…. I’ll stfu… n let u actually answer Cody’s question…. You’ve spoken up to refute the term middleware, but you haven’t said anything to the core issue of why transactions are showing up in horizon wallet which are not visible on the counterparty ledger.
  • @teysol #5311 09:03 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Blocked. Cody if you could provide me with some more details of what you're seeing in Horizon, I'd be happy to help, in like, this dimension of reality.
  • @WRBPT ↶ Reply to #5296 #5312 09:38 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Where does it take you when you click the link under the title of the asset ? And what does it show?

    Is it in the mempool? (Non dev here🤪)
  • Nice work chief. Nice to get some clarity around here. Adams a busy guy, picking out shirts and deciding to button them or not
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5313 #5314 11:19 PM, 17 Jul 2025
    Must be exhausting being so miserable all the time lmao
  • 18 July 2025 (14 messages)
  • What i just said was down right hilarious. Stop being so sensitive.
  • @XCERXCP #5319 01:38 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    Sounds like a display ui issue with an invalid tx
  • @XCERXCP #5320 01:38 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    Btw I just issued theearlies, Cody if you want it dm me your address
  • @therealmunehisahonma #5321 02:22 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    I've been repeatedly getting the following error when attempting to in log into Horizon wallet using my seed phrase:

    "An unexpected error occurred importing wallet"
  • @therealmunehisahonma #5323 02:24 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    Previously I was able to log in to Horizon using the same seed phrase and the same browser with no issues.

    Any ideas on what could be causing this?
  • @teysol #5324 02:35 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    Not sure @therealmunehisahonma . Will investigate
  • Thank you Adam!!
  • @WRBPT #5327 04:53 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    Is it possible for subassets to have their subasset name displayed as the asset title on the marketplace, instead of a numerical identifier like :
    A63839372929 (example) ?
  • @deltay99 #5328 05:25 AM, 18 Jul 2025
    When can we expect a mobile version of the wallet?
  • I believe that @XCERXCP is correct, @codythecampbell if you share the tx ids I can confirm
  • @therealmunehisahonma please clear your cache, or try logging in to a private window, and try logging in again.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5329 #5331 01:43 PM, 18 Jul 2025
    this asset only showed in his tx history, in horizon, it was blank when you tried to view the asset
  • Unfortunately I am unable to use Horizon —- no similar problems with Freewallet.
  • 19 July 2025 (23 messages)
  • @dimesquanderer #5335 01:25 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    @therealmunehisahonma did you try clearing your cache?
  • Thank you, I'll try it.
  • @dimesquanderer #5337 01:26 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    np please let me know if you have any more issues!
  • Tried it just now, unfortunately same error occurred —- unable to log in.
  • @dimesquanderer #5339 01:28 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    will dm.
  • @therealmunehisahonma #5340 01:28 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    Using Brave browser......
  • Can we do it here — there may be others who could benefit.
  • Just tried using Firefox, same error.
  • @dimesquanderer #5343 01:31 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    which wallet type are you attempting to import: horizon or freewallet/counterwallet?
  • @therealmunehisahonma #5344 01:31 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    freewallet/counterwallet
  • @dimesquanderer #5345 01:32 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    okay great. do you know if your seed phrase is an original counterwallet seed phrase or the freewallet bip39 type seed phrase?
  • That I do not know.

    *The seed phrase is a string of words.

    *The seed phrase was generated by freewallet.
  • @dimesquanderer #5347 01:34 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    do you regularly sign in and out of freewallet? when you sign into freewallet, there is an option to choose the seed phrase type. this dropdown defaults to counterwallet. I am guessing that you must use a counterwallet seed phrase if you don't choose from the dropdown. let me look into it now.
  • @therealmunehisahonma #5348 01:37 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    Q. do you regularly sign in and out of freewallet?

    A. Once in a while, but definitely not every time as is the case with Horizon.

    Q. I am guessing that you must use a counterwallet seed phrase if you don't choose from the dropdown

    A. I can't recall having to choose the seed phrase type when using Freewallet, so this assumption is likely correct (counterwallet seed phrase type).
  • @dimesquanderer #5349 01:43 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    when did you start having issues logging in?
  • @dimesquanderer #5350 01:50 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    I think I may know what the issue is. will discuss with the team and work on a fix.
  • @therealmunehisahonma #5351 01:50 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    I'm not sure exactly —- probably less than 1 month. Perhaps 2 or 3 weeks?
  • Thank you!!
  • Has anyone else reported having the same error message?
  • @dimesquanderer #5354 01:52 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    I have not seen others run into this issue, but after digging into the code I have an idea of where it is coming from.
  • @dimesquanderer #5355 02:09 AM, 19 Jul 2025
    @therealmunehisahonma had you been signing in and out of your wallet frequently, and it just stopped working? or were you signed in and then you got signed out?
  • Everytime I closed the browser and then reopened it, I signed in.

    I don't recall being forcibly signed out.
  • @mikeeesey #5357 01:39 PM, 19 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • 20 July 2025 (13 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5359 08:01 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • Hahah woow lots happening lol

    I had thought that I issued the earlies ?!
    But I guess I didn’t ?
    Ill see if I can find a hash k
  • @codythecampbell #5361 08:06 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    Well fun stuff I go back in my history and it’s not there anymore haha maybe it never happened !
    lol
  • @codythecampbell #5362 08:08 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    That doesn’t show in my wallet anymore let me dig elsewhere?
    Or I’ll drop my addy and you could have a look I’m sure
  • @codythecampbell #5363 08:08 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    14xyFwHGmrGJjGtMbjJoJHqrLZvf6MibYU
  • @codythecampbell #5364 08:08 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    Fun stuff
  • @codythecampbell #5365 08:14 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    It must show on the back end ? THEARTFORCE and
    THEEARLIES ?
    I thought it took xcp and btc ?
    But can’t remember exactly
    I just smash buttons all of the time haha
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5365 #5367 09:53 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    It was never there, it only showed in your tx history as valid broadcast which was a display issue for the UI in horizon
  • @XCERXCP #5368 09:53 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    It was an invalid tx
  • @XCERXCP #5370 09:54 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    And even that, it just says brodcasted, not how the other one says >6
  • @XCERXCP #5371 09:55 PM, 20 Jul 2025
    It’s even possible your fee was so low, it was never picked up by the mempool

    I have no idea, all I know is I issued it and my issuance was confirmed
  • 21 July 2025 (32 messages)
  • Ya I saw that ? For a time it went away
    So I figured it was done ?!
    Oh well I guess probably spamming too hard in. A row lol
  • Ya fee was recommend one
    But could have been during a btc pump and just didn’t get picked up ?
    Jdog had an idea of why it didn’t go threw
    But I know nothing lol
    Just wonder what would happen if we on-boarded another 2,000 users ?!
    Spamm/ issuance wildness
  • The crazy thing is I issued a whole bunch of assets since those broadcasts ?
    Oneeightyk was recently
    And I originally did THEEARLIES the day after nardo released the Citadel
    Odd ness
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5374 #5376 01:50 AM, 21 Jul 2025
    I don’t think you had any usable open uxtos since you only have $1 in BTC
  • @XCERXCP #5378 01:50 AM, 21 Jul 2025
    This shows you haven’t
  • @XCERXCP #5379 01:51 AM, 21 Jul 2025
    It shows your last issuance being ONEEIGHTKEK
  • EPSTEIN LIST incoming??
  • @XCERXCP #5381 01:53 AM, 21 Jul 2025
    Can’t imagine Cody’s Epstein list 😂
  • Kinda cool to put it out there on the block chain......
  • Ya it’s been in and out steady lol
  • I know that’s the issue isn’t it I issued THEEARLIES
    before that and the art force too.
    While I had $ in there
    Ans issued probably 10-12 after that ?!
    I assumed it was. Glitch and I asked a lot no answers so kept on going haha
    Wasn’t meant to be
  • As soon as the news hit I hammered it off and fist pumped in my car while I was driving haha
    There is no list
  • @codythecampbell #5387 02:35 AM, 21 Jul 2025
    Luckily I got my two companion card names issued and I check they are good to go
    Fake news double fake news
  • @codythecampbell #5388 02:46 AM, 21 Jul 2025
    Another little oddity is a lot of my cards don’t show the thumb nail until you open them ?
    Some two months ago ? Why is that what’s the deal do they need to be viewed so many times for it to be captured ?
  • @dimesquanderer #5389 01:47 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    big changes will be coming soon and these little UX oddities will be handled.
  • @therealmunehisahonma we are working on understanding your login issue at the moment, but please know that we have a large change coming up that certainly will address the issue that you are seeing.
  • I just got the same error while trying to log in with my seed phrase and setting up a password.
  • Do not reply to that account
  • @NorthrnSatosh #5396 02:02 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Fake Adam
  • @masteronchain #5397 02:04 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Turning off Brave shileds fixed it for me
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5390 #5398 03:02 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    It’s odd he doesn’t see the dex also on FW
  • @codythecampbell #5399 03:15 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Hey fun question
    I loaded a new seed into horizon
    And it’s one I used with FreeWallet
    It has like 30 addys
    But can only see 5-6 addys on the horizon wallet ?
    Will they eventually load or not on mobile or what’s the easiest way to get them all on one wallet ?
  • @teysol #5400 03:16 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    A future update will make it possible to access all of those addresses
  • @codythecampbell #5401 03:16 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Ah okay that will be cool !!
  • @codythecampbell #5402 03:17 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    I can just add private keys now for certain ones eh should work fine
  • @codythecampbell #5403 05:41 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Hey was there a horizon space coming up with new sneak peeks off what’s to come I remember seeing something?
  • Yeah, it’s been like a year. Can’t get it fixed. Dex worked fine on horizon though.
  • Hmm odd
  • @the_bitcoin_ape #5406 09:15 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @S1MONS #5407 10:13 PM, 21 Jul 2025
    Hey Ape ❤️
  • 22 July 2025 (39 messages)
  • @codythecampbell #5408 01:35 AM, 22 Jul 2025
    Oh hey it showed back up haha

    0b3a2c5add0ba8124a98b0b955bc01265e8b27fe90d6808d88a5358631abe0ec
  • @codythecampbell #5410 01:36 AM, 22 Jul 2025
  • @codythecampbell #5411 01:36 AM, 22 Jul 2025
    Confirmed so I’m not crazy haha
    It did go lol
  • @codythecampbell #5412 01:37 AM, 22 Jul 2025
    It was low fee stuff but there was money in there for it and it showed confirmed ?

    https://mempool.space/tx/b5300d2d403de1fed29d3492a65ea3cf5a8c0c75d1bae720b7513f9dd833f2a8?mode=details
    Bitcoin Transaction: b5300d2d403de1fed29d3492a65ea3cf5a8c0c75d1bae720b7513f9dd833f2a8

    Explore the full Bitcoin ecosystem with The Mempool Open Source Project®. See the real-time status of your transactions, get network info, and more.

  • @codythecampbell #5413 01:38 AM, 22 Jul 2025
    That’s THEARTFORCE ONE
  • @codythecampbell #5415 01:41 AM, 22 Jul 2025
    That hash should help with figuring it out I hope @teysol
    Don’t really care that much it’s just odd is all
  • Wouldn't that reduce security/privacy?
  • @codythecampbell #5417 01:36 PM, 22 Jul 2025
  • @codythecampbell #5418 01:36 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    Too funny

    https://tokenscan.io/asset/THEEARLIES
  • sorry what's the issue? you issues the asset with very low fee so it took a long time to go through and now it has been issued https://horizon.market/explorer/assets/THEEARLIES. there's no bug here
    Horizon Market | Trade Bitcoin NFTs & Counterparty Tokens

    Horizon Market is the home for Bitcoin NFTs like Rare Pepes and Spells of Genesis. Trade Counterparty assets with trustless, one-confirmation swaps.

  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5419 #5420 03:45 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    I issued that
  • @XCERXCP #5421 03:46 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    His never went thru, maybe the message was invalid?
  • @dimesquanderer #5422 03:46 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    ah got it, thanks @XCERXCP . @codythecampbell please provide actual details. what transaction were you trying to perform and what is the issue you are seeing?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5414 #5423 03:47 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    This is his tx, he tried to issue theearlies and although his tx confirmed, the asset was never issued

    I do notice Cody only has 0.8XCP and tried to issue two names assets which would require 1XCP minimum
  • @XCERXCP #5424 03:48 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    But I would think 1 of the 2 would issue since he has enough XCP for atleast one?
  • @dimesquanderer #5425 03:49 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    got it, thanks @XCERXCP for the extra info. let me try to see what may have happened.
  • @dimesquanderer #5426 04:33 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    @codythecampbell as far as I can tell the rhe transaction data format was correctly parsed (hence "valid") but was never issued due to one of the following:
    Race condition - another transaction may have consumed your XCP first
    Asset name conflict - in the case of THEEARLIES that asset already existed

    The asset doesn't exist in your balance and the asset is missing from any issuance records
    I really just think this is a low fee issue and you should try to reissue with standard fee
  • @codythecampbell #5428 04:38 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    No hahah it showed confirmed but didn’t go threw haha so someone else issued it haha too funny
  • I put the hashes and all info above
    It’s a bug and that’s it don’t care it just got missed somehow ?
    It shows very clearly that it was confirmed but never happend
  • Haha too late lol not early enough hahaha
  • It was months ago I had lots in there at that time
    Who knows I’m sure I fucked it up haha just funny
  • @codythecampbell #5432 04:42 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    I wonder who issued it haha fantastic fun
  • @codythecampbell #5433 04:43 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    I didn’t want to re issue it because then I wouldn’t be early haha anymore lol
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5432 #5434 04:48 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    Bro I issued it, I told you 10 times lol
  • yeah as I said most likely just a low fee issue
  • @XCERXCP #5436 04:48 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    I even offered to send it to you
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5426 #5437 04:50 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    I issued it after Cody, a month later after his tx

    If his XCP was consumed by a prior issuance, shouldn’t the cp message be invalid?
  • @XCERXCP #5438 04:52 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    I’m thinking because he only had 0.8 XCP in his wallet, and he issued two assets in the same block, it made both issuance attempts invalid?

    Shouldn’t 1 should be valid and another invalid due to lack of XCP
  • ? I missed that haha
    You issued it cool
  • Back then I’m not totally sure but I had enough xcp then
    It’s probably a spamming low fee issue but it did go threw haha still odd and fun
  • based on the previous convo i assumed it had only just confirmed (last time I asked for the tx hashes I was told they weren't in mempool yet)
  • @codythecampbell #5442 05:00 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    The hash is up ⬆️
    It has like 8400 confirmations it happend along time ago
  • They weren’t showing in my wallet but yesterday they actually stayed visible for more than 2 seconds so I grabbed them haha

    Glitch is happening no idea 🤷 what it is but
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5442 #5444 05:31 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    66 days ago, jeeze didn’t realize it was that old, def had a new release since then
  • @7498439417 #5445 05:47 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @1421408254 #5446 07:35 PM, 22 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • 24 July 2025 (5 messages)
  • exactly the same for me - I got a console full of CORS
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #5447 #5448 08:12 PM, 24 Jul 2025
    Could be your AV or other security software intercepting connections?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5447 #5449 08:44 PM, 24 Jul 2025
    Same
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #5448 #5450 08:44 PM, 24 Jul 2025
    I think it’s the seed phrase type, if I use a native horizon, it works great
  • I have no way of knowing, but that seems like it could be the case.

    Either way, Horizon should be compatible with existing seed phrases.
  • 25 July 2025 (2 messages)
  • Doesn't seem like it. I'm only blocking sentry.io, the issue looks like calls to api.unspendablelabs that are cors blocked
  • @mightbemike #5453 12:14 AM, 25 Jul 2025
    ^^ using ancient seed phrase, not new native
  • 30 July 2025 (9 messages)
  • @WRBPT #5459 12:36 AM, 30 Jul 2025
    Quick heads-up: Everything looks fine overall, but it might be worth checking the credit system for listing atomic swaps. We've noticed some edge cases—such as listing the same asset for sale twice or signing it twice—which might bypass credit usage. It would be good to confirm that credits are being correctly disbursed and that duplicate listings aren’t allowing users to list without consuming the appropriate amount of credits.
  • @HNFTPEPE #5461 10:16 PM, 30 Jul 2025
    lfg lol
  • @7124381552 #5462 11:23 PM, 30 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @7124381552 #5463 11:25 PM, 30 Jul 2025
    Hello
  • @NorthrnSatosh #5464 11:27 PM, 30 Jul 2025
    Gm ☕️
  • @7124381552 #5465 11:28 PM, 30 Jul 2025
    How's it going
  • Great.
  • @NorthrnSatosh #5467 11:46 PM, 30 Jul 2025
    And you ?
  • 31 July 2025 (4 messages)
  • thanks for reporting, I've raised the issue internally
  • fyi working on a fix
  • @Cdf17669300111 #5470 04:32 PM, 31 Jul 2025
    Joined.
  • @WRBPT #5471 05:29 PM, 31 Jul 2025
    I better mint & list soon then before its fixed 🤪😂