- 26 January 2024 (189 messages)
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So same would apply for invalid pubkeys but dunno about in the node level.. risky -
Oddly one of our 0303 keys does not fall on the elliptic curve but is accepted by cp.. haven’t dug into it
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Just sayin… got up to date and I’m very happy with the discussions here! 🥰
@robotlovecoffee you solve your issues? Feel free to DM me -
lol yeah well at least we are all in that same boat
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I work with a lot of arm boxes, was there an issue there?
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Been wanting to switch to arm for all this anyway but haven’t tested
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objectively speaking, it seems like 3030 is a waste of resources, even if it is a catch 22.
a split between strictly financial bitcoin and a social bitcoin seems inevitable. maybe the solution for everyone is somekind of basic core vs expanded functions, hopefully within the same blockchain. In this case, i think that the added burdon of hosting everyone's jpgs will be an option. The bigger picture is maybe the extraneous data should be built to hold consensus. the fanatics can ignore it and the supporters can fully utilize the dataspace effectively. Ive seen other blockchain projects using compression and other efforts to limit redundancy -
Just a point of order, there is way more to counterparty than just memes.
But yes the memes are great. -
Totally agree. This was all very early into Stamps where we were quickly shipping stuff particularly for narrative rather than engineering reasons. -
It is a waste of resources and a bad engineering solution. My philosophy is that engineering is downstream of memetics. The engineering is worthless if you don’t have a userbase
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Its Kayfabe. Most people have no idea what any of this is.
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Are you aware of XCP-20? Basically Joe got the idea to rebrand Counterparty to XCP-20 and it worked! Degens sent over 3 bitcoins to a burn address in less than a day.
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anyone with enough testnet BTC ? need some to test something -
yes but noone working 😢
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lol, but seems that works, thank you mate really appreciated
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@teysol counterparty.io is having a hard time staying up. I think Jeremy may still host that domain? It seems DNS is incorrect or changing/changed for www. and failing; but without www is up. I can help in this area as needed and where possible.
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Its the dns entries are different with and without www
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Check the DNS A * record or google that
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Or CNAME
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If you just moved everything to a new host, this probably still applies. https://t.me/Counterparty_Dev/9151A Blue One in Official Counterparty Dev Chat
Google has deep links to the wrong URL's. The sitemap.xml is outdated and pointing to the dead links. https://counterparty.io/sitemap.xml https://counterparty.io/docs-sitemap.xml WP can do dynamic redirects and Cpanel can help too.
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another one
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What is this ser? -
F2Pool is mining non-standard op_returns
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look how big the op_return is
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Is base64 in op_return
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yep
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Without any obfuscation lol
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Wow and really cheap
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well fees are lowish right now
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Well yes
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whats funny is luke-jr has already decided he wants to filter standard txs so non-standard txs are totally fair game now
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im of the opinion op_return should just be THE PLACE to store arbitrary data
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and there should be no size restriction
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everyone that loves storing arbitrary data on-chain yes
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Kek
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not the laser eyes tho
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JR willet?
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Finance Schminance can I put jpegs in it
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the thing that i would always tell people over the years when they would deny the existence of tokens on bitcoin was that theres almost $1bil worth of tether that lives on bitcoin
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That doesn’t count because everyone expects than to run on excel
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i can think of another metaprotocol thats been a mess for a long time…
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lol
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mastercoin is a great case study of a metaprotocol being captured by an asset issued on it
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Cryptocurrency Startup Claims Hackers Stole $30.95 Million
In an official statement posted on its website yesterday, Tether, a startup that offers 1-to-1 dollar-backed digital tokens [USDT], said a hacker stole funds worth $30,950,010.
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not sure if you remember this
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nope, a hack of tether treasury
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yep and since omni is essentially run by tether they just hard forked
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its still around, still over $1bil of tether on it lol
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sorry $888 million
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Wonder how many times the backing to that has been rehypothecated
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Air money
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i will say i was thankful tether existed during the silicon valley bank fiasco last year
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i was able to move USDC to Tether to maintain peg
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really was incredible
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20k commits behind. what could go wrong?
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lol
- 27 January 2024 (65 messages)
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https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/08/17/tether-stops-support-for-bitcoin-layer-omni-citing-lack-of-demand/amp/
"The stablecoin provider will stop issuing USDT on Omni, Kusama and Bitcoin Cash from Aug. 17 [2023], while redemptions will continue for the next 12 months."Tether Stops Support for Bitcoin Layer Omni Citing Lack of DemandOmni was the first transport layer that Tether used in 2014.
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Did you know erc20 tether has a backdoor? They can freeze any account anytime.
This is impossible on both mastercoin/omni and counterparty. But omni was/is much smaller, therefore much easier to hardfork reverse a tx there - which they did. I speculate that they chose omni to have such control. -
opensea also, they can do whatever they want with an NFT minted through their minting contract
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that are very good news
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i think this could afect how are you taking the balances now @reinamora_137 take a look ser
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(maybe not)
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As long as the get_balances api call returns the same data it currently does in the same amount of time or faster 😁
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That call with an address filter is probably the most used since it’s the foundation for any wallet
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I would prefer faster pls
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Is that the only table that uses update?
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Postman tells me current response time for 1000 results with a single address filter is ~200ms
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Yeah it’s fairly negligible even when viewing a large collection that requires a couple calls adjusting the offset
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the new table will be considerably larger and for addresses with a lot of assets that havent moved in a while i would imagine there would be a lot more rows to traverse
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but im not a db guy
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I suggest software engineers with relational database knowledge and experience to evaluate the PR. It really complicates the balances way too much in my educated and experienced opinion. Sorry to sound arrogant but for this one I would really want input from people that know what they are talking about
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My suggestion also includes a block in the balances. While keeping it as a view instead of becoming a kind of redundant ledger.
I just feel there is a fixation to remove all updates in the DB. I get it.
But there was a reason balances was done the way is was. Is a view. The history is in the other tables, credits and debits
Is not only one balance query that changed. There are multiple. And I’m pretty sure none are faster -
*Is a (ready to read, fast) view*
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There is protocol code that relies on this table, and that is a separate issue. Maybe that shouldn’t be done?
Is not a simple topic. There are nuances, but I believe more input is needed.
I just feel the approach taken is not the best for such a commonly used table. Is easily the most used one. And it should be as fast as possible -
Read speed is my main concern
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MongoDB would be an interesting comperator
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foundationDB looks cool too
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im using it with deno kv im thinking on create a service to parse counterpartydb data writed o deno to deno kv when i have some time
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bc good part of it is that has really good response times in all the world
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Carman (@benthecarman) on X
.@OP_RETURN_Bot now supports OP_RETURNs up to 9kb https://t.co/nTFcknQsG5
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FYI:
xcp.dev is undergoing some changes. Some calls will take longer in this process, but after all is completed everything should be faster 🤓 - 28 January 2024 (7 messages)
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Update completed! Biggest improvement is in the address page. Enjoy 😊
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👀 BLOCKSCAN VERIFY-ADDRESS???... a blast from the past.
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Thank you!
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I have been using SQL Server forever so might be able to provide some insight or comments, but more rows is not a bad thing typically you just need effcicient keys and queries, DB are built to hold a data -
The good thing is that is not a protocol change. CNTRPRTY repo fork already does its own get_balances call, in the classic way that doesn’t include the divisibility. For performance reasons.
I added a separate get_address_balances that does include divisibility in a single sql instead of calling the db O(n) additional times per asset.
Also holders calls will be affected by the new schema. @ChiefSamyaza might have something to say 😆
As someone running an explorer, changes like this translate to $. So I think my plan is to just continue supporting the repo fork with the optimizations I believe benefit its products (like xcp.dev) - 29 January 2024 (8 messages)
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Hi,
Another update for xcp.dev
The homepage menu was breaking the layout in mobile view and so I made it more responsive.
Now, in Desktop view the navigation menu will be visible in the header while in Mobile view it will be visible in the footer.
This ensures that whatever device the user uses (desktop or mobile) it will only take 1 CLICK/TAP to reach the desired page.
Another choice would have been to put icons instead of text in the main menu and always show them in the header.
But I think this would have been worse in terms of accessibility because:
- the icons would have been very small in mobile view
- without text on the menu people that are not familiar with the app will find it more difficult to know where the links go
- people with big fingers :) and/or small phones - would have had issues clicking on the right icon
Let me know your opinions/thoughts on how it is now.
This is still not pushed on prod so you would have to just look at the screenshots.
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Great work!!! Thats beutifull and really easy to read the info. -
Back in 960.xcp.dev. This time it stays 😎
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Looks really sick guys great job @Chriton I love the down bar with all the options there in mobile
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when in prod 🥹
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Hopefully soon 😊. Anyone finding weird stuff please let us know in the xcpdev-spa repo
- 30 January 2024 (62 messages)
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Well, In case funds are collected I assume these will be fairly shared with us devs working on the xcp.dev blockchain explorer.
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Ser i Will launch a stamps collection to raise money and I will split between xcpdev and protocol
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OpenSource ones not by the same ser...
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Yes
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But require more development in top for this, protocol could be receiving fees and assuring dev funds forever if instead burning xcp was designed to charge an small BTC fee in top of new issuances
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So the statement of protocol cannot be funded in the same way is not valid for me
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Yes but with a foundation or a dao this problem is mitigated..
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Idk just my point of view
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But a protocol that depends on donations to survive is not very resilient...
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Yes
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They are but idk maybe the user base is a little bigger
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I pay for blockcypher lol
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Yes im totally convinced that there is a business model for xcp dev
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Yes ser i know that is more about this but if they don't have any other option that pay for services.. they will pay
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I don’t think the community can generally assess such inner workings
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my two cents 🫡
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A large majority of this community regularly mistakes “xchain” as being the “protocol”
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^this has also happened with freewallet and pepe.wtf and emblemvaults too. I think it really behooves the protocol to be much more clear on these topics moving forward. I understand this is a marketing point but it should be clarified with the new moves happening. -
I don’t think it’s unique to CP. crypto in general. Most users haven’t a clue, it’s black box magic to them. Blockchain! The solution to everything!
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Took me a while to explain my mom I didn't create pepe the frog, imagine explaining protocol vs website
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Remember they’re not buying a jpeg, they’re buying a token
- 31 January 2024 (110 messages)
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what bone would you like? an xcpdev donation address on counterparty.io?
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The greater community has no idea what’s even happening at the protocol level
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Pretty sure that’s just a dispenser opened on an exchange address
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That’s not real. Someone set up a dispenser on an exchange account. Those addresses are not knowingly buying anything and the funds are going to the exchange
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But this also speaks to the notional “value” on CP. A billion on paper held within highly illiquid assets? Yeah, maybe. Not every asset is a Nakamoto card.
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That’s a fair point
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For the record, @Chriton opinions are his own and he is free to express what he believes.
We only privately talked that I was not happy with the announcement, and that I need to figure out how to fund the project.
And I know I will get there eventually. It has been a lot of effort without asking anything in return. I just wanted to prove that there was potential. And have the product speak for itself. But also walk the talk. For a while I was the sole developer yelling at the repo lol
Saying this to express that even though I am EXTREMELY happy with the return of the founders and devs, and they are truly doing top work at the repo…
It just didn’t feel right to not consider the own developers in the community to improve the protocol. Is it really that hard that some outsider is required?
TLDR it really felt like a slap in the face when I saw the collection of funds for a person that is just a pay for hire. Most won’t go into that details, and will just think that “counterparty devs are fund raising”. And I’ve been here for a while building and have not received a single sat -
Patron saint of my hometown -
Thank you great to hear!
The funds I still not love, but I can also accept it really. The only thing left that I would like to understand is what specifically will be worked on that needs such specialization… -
Will look at it tomorrow!
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As I want to ramp up on understanding CP etc what dev enviroments are you guys running, I'm on a mac and was hoping I could use vscode as it is closest to visual studio that I have been using forever. Ideally I would like to be able to document the steps as I think this will help other devs at the very least pull the code and review it etc
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I also do not know if this is the right place, I sponsored a API and Counterwallet server (basically send jdog $$$ for a year of hosting), it expires in April, I would be happy to do that again for another year, I do not have BTC on ramp or much BTC but can send USD to someone who is setting up hosting or migration of the existing server, lmk
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Where was this leaked from and by who? There are bad actors in this situation and chasing fiat is showing it’s head. I suggested staying away from foundations, fiat and donations from the beginning. Hushmoney.org
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I’ve been here with you and share the sentiment. We can fork later.
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Start with the important. Necessary is not always important.
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While Inplay with this docker image, Inneed something else to play with… What does the hit list look like to get counterwallet working again?
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Cc me too if you like
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I did my bit
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Just had this thought, which I think is appropriate in this new era:
xcp.dev uses Counterparty, but it is not Counterparty.
Just like xchain.io + Freewallet was not Counterparty.
Sounds dumb to say in this group, but the majority of CP users didn’t know the distinction when I joined. @mikeinspace has mentioned it multiple times.
Maybe the latest developments have taught many about this.
But the people coming back may not be very aware the state the community was in. It was like the confusion was embraced almost…
So, saying this to let it be clear that funding of xcp.dev is a WIP and will eventually be announced on its own. -
I think it would come as a surprise to many in the community that the codebase is in a state of disrepair (to the extent that those in this room have alluded to -- I'm not a dev and can't comment). To the end user, things seem to "work" most of the time. Now this may be because they are simply interfacing with xchain rather than using Counterparty in a true decentralized mannner, but that's their experience and perception. Things "work". That might not be a helpful perception when fund-raising. The house could be burning down, but from outside, the house looks fine... just a little smoke coming out the windows...
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yes ser things work because they dont know what consensus hashes are
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Relevant: https://xchain.io/asset/WIZARDOFXCP
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None
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The handle of this chat is @xcpdev. If we want to help in stopping the confusion between the separation of concerns, then I think the new name is the most appropriate and non-controversial. Don’t think we need to change it again.
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Obviously this chat is ALSO for informal protocol talk. Just saying it in the context of the change in the group name
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hello guys
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we have a problem
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there is an issue with dispensers
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one guy has created a dispenser, then closed it and now assets are gone
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not in the dispensers addres not in his address
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will try to recover more info
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Can you share any of the details like asset or originating address?
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this is the asset
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A365177792572411736
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The 3 addresses holding the supply seem to add-up when I check here: https://xcp.ninja/asset/A365177792572411736XCP Ninja, the counterparty reference.
Explore a wide range of Counterparty assets through a powerful search engine. Tools such as minting, directories and more.
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the dispenser is closed ser
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bc1qukk87x7cucmhmj2q5rkq4s27qtwa4a9rwsmem4 creator address
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has it been 5 blocks?
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dispenser address bc1qm9k98pshufzyfmsrs7qmllf3pyeqcwwllcmnpa
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yes
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Ahh yeah, I see what you mean: https://www.xcp.dev/asset/A365177792572411736
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Supply showing 18, 18, 0
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yes
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also read the verify line:
verify (36 in balances + 0 in open orders + 0 in open dispensers): 36 -
Now its not coming up at all.
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i think it takes some time in load
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i have checked in counterparty.io api too
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and same
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