- 24 February 2025 (100 messages)
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trying to copy the success of etherum by pigeon holing users with specific publishing methodologies that don't even take into consideration the optimal use of our own platform itself is just playing catch-up
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Ordinals also follow terms, even though they side note it as an inscription
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1 persons choice of terms is completely fine. Industry, market, the space defines adoption
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If there's a better choice of terminology it would be adopted
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Outside of your own personal website and adoption, could you show me any technical documents in the counterparty ecosystem outlining the process, "mint" aside from Fair minters. This convolution resulting im confusion of the original question/request
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It's how stamps trys to define creation of an asset as stamping. But the general users/space still calls it minting a stamp.
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Comes to translation to other languages also I believe, choice of words that may be translated with the least deviation
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Something other dev discussions have discussed when designing other protocols such as ordinals/runes
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Okay whatever. I don't know if you've actually talked to people in real life about our industry. Even people who are very computer/tech literate they get immediately turned off when they hear the first two letters of nft and the first two syllables of cryptoart.
So no, I have a very strong opinion that we should not double dip into the inane rhetoric of mislabeled lexicon which is used by the ignorant masses who don't actually want to understand how blockchain technology works.
Unfortunately it seems like a vast majority of people involved in this industry are only worried about the end results in personal USD profit and not exploring the new functionality afforded our society -
No one mentioned USD or profits. There was a how-to question relating to the protocol level execution, and mention of terminology relating to industry/adoption - maybe not demand a user/dev to use a certain word of choice when trying to onboard new users to experiment and build in this space
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minting, stamping, Inscriptions are terms used in creation of an asset/art/token on protocol level - can't argue with the users and the space. Yes it a creation of an asset on protocol level this i agree. But UI may be translated
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can't forgot the term Deploy also
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What other utility do you insist is the purpose of stamps? I don't see people doing much else besides conjecturing on value or selling
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Lip service is not the same as pointing to a technical document using the word
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also I believe we need to hit bitcoin'ers hard with this fact of xcp being thermodynamically sound. xcp is the only layer 2 that has an immaculate conception
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Utility? Trade, giveaway, burn, experiment. I don't think it's your business what users do with their assets, If they are sold or not.
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my guess is we are just waiting for a major player to jump in like Saylor so basically idling until we get the green light
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Universal language. It's ok you don't understand this if you don't work with international teams.
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Cody The Campbell (@CodyCampbe16881) on X
@neweramuzic Is this what you’re talking about?
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In my messages I did not advocate for stamps. I clearly stated stamps as a case study where it tried to deviate from the Crypto Space/industry term of inscription to its own term of "stamping" and users still returned to the term "minting/inscribing a stamp."
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I know you not a fan of stamps. But src101 has an engineer team building out DNS and supporting active developments
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Haha it does drive me crazy that people call stamping inscribing so I see the annoyance calling issuances minting or otherwise.
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But we've tried and continue to use the term stamping, the annoyance is personal, not a deal breaker in shunning out users/devs who use a term you may disagree with. It's the ability in being universal and being able to adapt, is key
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Curious to know if they are using "CIP25" or going a completely different route
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These are all provided at the protocol level and not unique of stamps.
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UNIVERSE Wallet and Gate Web3 wallet both support src101 Bitnames, transferring stamps and src20s, sending Bitcoin via BNS.
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No real utility as it gets adopted and supported...
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Built on src20 theory. Haven't read into CiP25 so no idea if theory cross over.
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But src101 works.
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@Jake_Blockchain Any updates on big players entering xcp?
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Not yet that ive seen
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you?
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no
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You guys watching the dispensers?
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It would *really* help for a major Bitcoin player to take notice of Counterparty and get involved.
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Admins bullying users over word choice is a low vibe
- 25 February 2025 (26 messages)
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Thanks for taking the time to show actual concern by addressing the valid idea of "brainstorming marketing of the protocol" with your unbelievable insight and top quality irony
Or maybe you're resorting to personal attack because you have nothing better to do with your time or way to contribute to the conversation at large about the lack of utility in stamps as compared to creating fungible cryptoart without rigid structures.
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I think people got confused mainly because I introduced a new concept they were not familiar with. I could have used stamping instead of minting and probably should have used it, but I felt it will add another level of confusion.
Olga Stamp Minter by JPJA
Stampverse - Mint Stamp
Stamped.ninja - Mint Stamp
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If you don't mind, since you are also interweaving the topic of fairmints, perhaps you could specify using counterparty terminology. Being in the counterparty room and all. I know people besides me would like to understand what you're saying, asking or suggesting
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Whether you like it or not, we mint our stamps utilising Counterparty and Bitcoin.
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a capture of their old website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180106173743/http://www.blocksafefoundation.com/index.html#what_we_do
their old whitepaper: https://web.archive.org/web/20180127200858/http://www.blocksafefoundation.com/assets/blocksafe_whitepaper_v.1.pdf
TIMELINEXCP still on dispenser, up for XCP and Pepecash
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You attacked my pleb question in the NFT room so I left and came in here to read you losing it on someone else. I just think it's a bad look. I don't do marketing or care much about stamps or any other buzz words.
"Low vibe" is hardly a personal attack. More of an observation. Your behavior is concerning only in that you are admin and representing all of us. I would care zero percent otherwise. Also sarcasm is feminine -
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Sorry. Genuinely not trying to be a dick. I was trying to follow up with this idea. Could we please rehash it?
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There are many ways to do it. The information can simply be stored as a running object in the description with a couple of special ops to reset the data. This can be done (pretty simply) as a metaprotocol.
One big issue is that the named asset space is anemic. 4-12 uppercase characters is nowhere near enough to provide a useable DNS namespace. Fortunately, there are 193x more counterparty assets outside the named space, so this type of service could easily be done using numeric assets or a subasset namespace.
Ideally the solution would use existing standards like punycode or ensip-15
I fren and I made a functional MVP for this using numeric assets and ensip-15 and a hash based registration validation method, but sidelined it for the time being due to other priorities.
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i find that so funny my wife has worked at mcga for years lol
manitoba canola growers assoiation lol but yes
mcga is a great thing here too haha
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Joined.
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A lot fell under the issuance tab. So creators issue assets and tokens. However, today those assets can be opened up to anyone minting tokens.
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It’s important to make the distinction between issuing and minting
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Every asset is an NFT
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Bitcoin is an NFT. It is not socially or technically fungible.
Counterparty Tokens can be more fungible
IMHO it is 100% bandwagon to use the term that has become a cliché
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Every NFT is a Pepe
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Updated - 1219 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/d5c766ee54250e4cc0624d36e8925410148a2105f74350bc4ebbfa241091fbf9 -- 0.00009000 -- 202 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/99e08f63e38877b51c8e2ab141d52c3141c21c953ea5ace76b201f48a5b79fe4 -- 0.00009500 -- 30 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/0b8fbc52d301a15317c1a4737863eadc767a7dee07ab712ff57e88d98a8e303d -- 0.00009700 -- 300 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/cb3d9d4044d2a2400732543c09613e2d0dca0d5eeaf137be219eed25660fb093 -- 0.00010990 -- 410 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/5ad734e27c94a1bf1b9b6dea29c9b23ebe0abe753fd2944bfcb4a6c6521d0f37 -- 0.00011100 -- 133 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 144 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Any 50+ XCP dispenses from any of these dispensers get some free stuff for the next 48 hours (DM for more info) -
Orbital Market Daily Report - February 24, 2025
🚀 Market Overview
Yesterday, the Counterparty NFT and token market saw notable activity in the DEX, dispensers, and FairMint systems. Let's dive into the specific trading metrics and trends observed:
📈 Top Collections by Trade Volume (DEX Orders)
- Rare Pepe – 23 trades
- Spells of Genesis – 11 trades
- Bitcorn Cards – 9 trades
- Kaleidoscope – 9 trades
- The Wojak Way – 3 trades
💰 Dispenser Activity - BTC Spent by Token
- FAKEORIGINAL (Fake Commons) – 0.00514094 BTC
- STACKEMHIGH (Other) – 0.00075 BTC
- XCP (currencies) – 0.00018 BTC
🖼 FairMint Activity - New NFTs Minted
No mints were recorded yesterday, indicating a slower FairMint activity day.
🔥 Market Insights & Signals
- Rare Pepe continues to hold a strong lead in trade volume, reinforcing its popularity among Counterparty NFTs.
- Spells of Genesis maintained a steady 11 trades, suggesting consistent interest from collectors.
- The dispenser activity indicates increased interest in the Fake Commons with FAKEORIGINAL leading in BTC spent.
- FairMinting showed no activity, which might be an anomaly or a sign that traders are consolidating existing assets rather than creating new ones.
🔍 Unusual Events & Potential Signals:
- The absence of FairMint activity could signal a momentary decline in minting hype or distractions to existing collections.
- The noticeable trading volume for Rare Pepe highlights its ongoing relevance and demand within the market.
🤔 Daily Reflection
Yesterday's data suggests a stable demand for well-established collections like Rare Pepe and Spells of Genesis. The singular FAKEORIGINAL dispenser activity might be an outlier worth monitoring. Traders seem engaged with existing tokens, potentially conserving resources in anticipation of better market conditions or upcoming developments.
💡 What to Watch:
- Will Rare Pepe continue its dominance, or face competition from emerging collections?
- How will FairMint activity evolve this week? Will we see a resurgence in mints?
- The small volume of BTC spent on dispensers could suggest a strategy shift or awaiting major market movements.
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- 26 February 2025 (1 messages)
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Your opinion matters! - 27 February 2025 (43 messages)
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I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to use the public Coutnerparty api. It seems that perhaps shared hosting is blocked? I am able to get results in my terminal on my computer, but unable to get anything to populate on my webpage.
as you can see
https://pepedust.com/deets/fetch_orders.php?asset=PEONTRUST
gives the following error
cURL Error: Failed to connect to api.counterparty.io port 4000: Connection refused
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Seems to be working fine from my phone
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Ah didn’t see that
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Have you tried pasting your php code into chatgpt?
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My go to for checking if it’s my code or the server is to use postman
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open up developer tools and compare the request your website is issuing to the one issued by the link Joe shared
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<?php
// API URL
$url = 'https://api.counterparty.io:4000/v2/assets/PEONTRUST/orders?status=open&limit=100';
// Initialize a cURL session
$ch = curl_init($url);
// Set cURL options
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER, false); // Disable SSL certificate verification if needed
// Execute cURL request
$response = curl_exec($ch);
// Check for cURL errors
if (curl_errno($ch)) {
echo 'cURL Error: ' . curl_error($ch);
} else {
// Output the JSON response
header('Content-Type: application/json');
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tried this endpoint, works fine here
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hope it helps
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otherwise try to exclude your hosting by running your script in an online tool, for example https://onlinephp.io/PHP Sandbox - Execute PHP code online through your browser
Run PHP code in your browser online with this tool in 400+ PHP versions
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that way you can ensure your script is working
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to be sure "it's on your end" 🙂
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gl ✌️
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still getting
"cURL Error: Failed to connect to api.counterparty.io port 4000: Connection refused"
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yeah could be numerous of things.. maybe a firewall?
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try out directing it to another public API - that would show it is a setting on your server
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he could try https://tokenscan.io/api/orders/PEONTRUST
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maybe the custom port (4000) is a problem?
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but now it's just guessing.. without knowing your configuration 🙂
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Protocol change proposal to support P2WSH and P2TR addresses: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/3053
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Benefits? Please ELI5 if possible 🙏
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Now someone can build a pepe insurance company using threshold signatures like anchorwatch
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Protocol change proposal for Taproot envelope data storage (much cheaper transactions, and be able to store much more data) https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/3054
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just reading through it, looks great! i love that you incorporated creating the commit tx from any address type, i never understood why everyone in ordinals world insisted that p2tr be used for all wallets since thats only necessary to go from commit to reveal
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That's great 🔥
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What is the status of P2SH?
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Thanks. I searched before asking and it seems like at one point P2SH was disabled at the API and required a code commit reversion. Do you know if this is still the case or is the API parsing as expected if running a node with default settings?
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So there are two different things:
(1) Support for P2SH addresess—this isn't going anywhere ofc.
(2) Storing data in P2SH outputs—this was disabled at the API level in October because it has a buggy implementation and it's superseded by the upcoming Taproot envelope support so once we confirm that the latter is always strictly cheaper we'll disable it at the protoco level too: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2632Protocol Change Proposal: Disable P2SH · Issue #2632 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreOur P2SH encoding no longer works with recent versions of Bitcoin Core. It was disabled in the API in October (because it was causing loss of user funds). There are multiple other bugs in the P2SH ...
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Thanks for the reply
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I think this project is a real beaut!
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Beauty bud
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- 28 February 2025 (25 messages)
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nice, where does this document come from?
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Do you know of a good Counterparty postman collection for the masses?
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Mike In Space (@mikeinspace) on X
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Joined.
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Back to my original question I deleted
When the api returns get and give quantities for orders at a specific address
Why does it give sats for divisible assets and integers for non divisible assets
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for any call, the quantity is in sats for divisible assets. if you include the verbose=true flag in your call, you should also receive a quantity_normalized field that converts your sats to int
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oof lol
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no with the verbose=true, you should get something like this (a testnet4 example)
{
"tx_index": 381,
"tx_hash": "edfbf22d0759d1528566c4aaa2aec27e1b706706fa9993f5886ac84f548d08e2",
"block_index": 71898,
"source": "tb1qhumnfzhn698l4m72hvlu7z2zjwuvc8ywx83zwu",
"give_asset": "A18092437243794507226",
"give_quantity": 1,
"give_remaining": 1,
"get_asset": "XCP",
"get_quantity": 100000000,
"get_remaining": 100000000,
"expiration": 8064,
"expire_index": 79962,
"fee_required": 0,
"fee_required_remaining": 0,
"fee_provided": 688,
"fee_provided_remaining": 688,
"status": "open",
"give_price": 100000000,
"get_price": 1e-8,
"block_time": 1740675360,
"give_asset_info": {
"asset_longname": null,
"description": "",
"issuer": "tb1qhumnfzhn698l4m72hvlu7z2zjwuvc8ywx83zwu",
"divisible": false,
"locked": false,
"owner": "tb1qhumnfzhn698l4m72hvlu7z2zjwuvc8ywx83zwu"
},
"get_asset_info": {
"asset_longname": null,
"description": "The Counterparty protocol native currency",
"issuer": null,
"divisible": true,
"locked": true,
"owner": null
},
"give_quantity_normalized": "1",
"get_quantity_normalized": "1.00000000",
"get_remaining_normalized": "1.00000000",
"give_remaining_normalized": "1",
"fee_provided_normalized": "0.00000688",
"fee_required_normalized": "0.00000000",
"fee_required_remaining_normalized": "0.00000000",
"fee_provided_remaining_normalized": "0.00000688",
"give_price_normalized": "100000000.0000000000000000",
"get_price_normalized": "0.0000000100000000"
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This is going to be available until I find a way to auction it for more. It is definitely worth much more. Plus I can't imagine the pain in the ass the eBay fees will be, but damn. Lets set a record sales for that category?
Willing to get paid in XCP
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326465978058FLOPPYBLOCK Limited Phygital, by Counterparty Legends Joe Looney & Mike in SpaceBrought to you byJoe Looney &Mike In Space. • The Bitcoin Genesis Block. • Satoshi Nakamoto’s PGP Key. • Limited Edition Bitcoin NFT🔗. verifies authenticity and scarcity.
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This worked great. Pretty awesome how easy it is to connect to the official api. Thank you.
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