• 01 November 2024 (39 messages)
  • @ShawnLeary #2097 12:12 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    there are so many YT videos out there
  • @ShawnLeary #2098 12:13 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    Creator of the Rare Pepe Wallet & A Rare Pepe Scientist | Joe Looney & Shawn Leary

    PLEASE JOIN OUR DISCORD! https://discord.gg/RB6QBWjh Please like, subscribe, and comment! NFT launch next week: giveaway link here : https://bit.ly/3BoW0PR NFT Culture @NFTCulture Please Join our Discord! Hit us up on Twitter for the link. Please follow @NFTCulture on Twitter and Instagram.

  • @ShawnLeary #2099 12:13 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    had to go to a dunkin’ donuts parking lot as we just randomly lost power at the house right before the stream
  • @dxmxnxcx #2100 12:20 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    The Pepe thing was so early I wonder what would happen if all the Pepe stuff was fed into an AI system
  • @dxmxnxcx #2101 12:22 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    Like they have those waifu bots now that make their own coin and have a sexy 3D avatar gen by AI that u can talk to and simp
  • @ShawnLeary #2102 12:29 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    i want a John Villar AI. load up all of our tgram chats into it
  • @ShawnLeary #2103 12:30 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    i’m pumped for the founders coming back and making stuff happen to improve both the functionality which could improve adoption.
  • @ShawnLeary #2104 12:31 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    Anyone know the Tether ppl? We could have them load a few billie tethers onto the new and improved DEx 😁
  • @dxmxnxcx #2105 12:33 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    Dunno if Craig Sellars is still helping them with the tech stuff.
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2104 #2106 09:12 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    this would be amazing
  • @6900821288 #2107 09:12 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    im sure tether will support it
  • @6900821288 #2108 09:12 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    they first deployed USDT on OMNI
  • @6900821288 #2109 09:12 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    BTC sidechain
  • @6900821288 #2110 09:31 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    i've assets i want to migrate from xcp(freewallet) to eth, what changed ? do i need to take some precautions? thanks !
  • @6900821288 #2111 09:32 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    its the first time i do it :D
  • @6900821288 #2112 09:37 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    i don't want to lose my assets , then when there will be desktop horizon i will use that..
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #72 #2113 09:50 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    I ask of you to issue shares on Counterparty and distribute them out for further transparency.
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2110 #2114 10:11 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    It sounds like you would like to create an emblem vault. You can still do that all the same. It is a send from your wallet to the emblem vault's wallet address, so no extra precautions needed.
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2114 #2115 10:43 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    thanks cornholio , so i need to go there https://emblem.finance/createcurated , select project and card and send the card to this address generated on the website?
    Emblem Vault

    An entire wallet inside a token

  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2115 #2116 10:44 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    That looks right to me.
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2116 #2117 10:47 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    thanks so much! if i will encounter some problems i will tell you :D
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2117 #2118 10:48 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    @jakegallen can help too
  • @6900821288 #2119 10:52 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    thanks so much!
  • You are not really migrating them. They still are xcp assets just wrapped in a eth contact so you can sell or buy etc. I think you know this just want to make to clear for others. You can also put many assets into one vault.
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2120 #2121 11:09 AM, 01 Nov 2024
    thanks for the explanation ! :D
  • @teysol #2122 02:14 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    Counterparty Core Development Update

    We're working on the upcoming Counterparty Core v10.6.2, which will include a protocol change to fix a number of outstanding issues esp. in the recently released features. Milestone on GitHub: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/milestone/44 This release will be fully backwards-compatible, except the new UTXO attach/detach API calls might still change (to make them simpler). We're adding significantly more tests for that feature, as well as for fair minting.

    In the meantime, the last protocol change to fix multi-dispensers activated yesterday. Triggering a dispenser at an address where other dispensers were previously closed should be working again. 👌
  • @teysol ↶ Reply to #2122 #2123 02:14 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    None
  • @RedBravo #2124 02:17 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @xcp2024x #2125 02:18 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @hot_dot #2126 03:09 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    Hello all. I am now get how to fairmint and my next question :
    How to add price per fairmint in BTC sand ?
  • @Analemma7 #2127 03:33 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @jakegallen ↶ Reply to #2119 #2128 03:45 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    IF you have any Emblem questions you can hit me up. We also have tutorials on the Emblem vault YouTube page and the @emblemvision twitter account
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2128 #2129 04:22 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    thanks jake ! that's great
  • @dxmxnxcx #2130 06:24 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    GitHub - ai16z/eliza: Conversational Agent for Twitter and Discord

    Conversational Agent for Twitter and Discord. Contribute to ai16z/eliza development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @dxmxnxcx #2131 06:33 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    its for solana but in theory could swap that part out so the bots create and trade coins on XCP while shilling online lol
  • @dxmxnxcx #2132 06:34 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    like imagine bots creating new pepe cards then pump and dumping them constantly
  • @dxmxnxcx #2133 06:38 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    just need to add extra code there so the AI bots value the OG cards more lol
  • @dxmxnxcx #2135 06:40 PM, 01 Nov 2024
    so it has some insatiable need to acquire a full series 1 deck which is basically almost impossible
  • 02 November 2024 (104 messages)
  • @booey88 ↶ Reply to #338 #2137 09:02 AM, 02 Nov 2024
    Just wondering if this was eventually resolved?
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2135 #2138 10:09 AM, 02 Nov 2024
    rare pepe are the future. ❤️
  • @Diogozas ↶ Reply to #2138 #2139 10:37 AM, 02 Nov 2024
    The past, present and future.
  • @6900821288 ↶ Reply to #2139 #2140 10:41 AM, 02 Nov 2024
    yes, rare pepe are super magic .
  • @6900821288 #2141 10:51 AM, 02 Nov 2024
    i was thinking to the trumprare card now.. it was issued in september 2016 and there is a potential prediction inside the card . there is the word : WIN AGAIN. and it was before his first presidential election :D
  • @6900821288 #2142 10:51 AM, 02 Nov 2024
    rare pepe predicted the future? :D
  • @biosaurus #2143 04:27 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    GM frens! Started v10.6.1 in docker container and see “could not connect to backend at http://xxxxx@localhost:8332” messages in the logs. First time starting a node, do I just need to wait?
  • Hi Anton! I’ve seen that before too. It connects on one port but not another. if the process is continuing it should be fine - is it still continuing?
  • @biosaurus #2145 04:31 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Yes, doing attempts every other second. Maybe i just misconfigured something. Trying to spawn the node in akash
  • @GiLBeex #2146 04:33 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    None
  • It should just work (TM). Are you getting block transactions? if you run this, you should see a bunch of similarly-numbered ports - 8332,8432,9332,9333 from docker-proxy, what's it looking like?

    sudo netstat -tanp
  • @vectorconfetti #2148 04:36 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Basically, I've seen the error on just that port but when I've seen it, everything still works, and it eventually stops
  • @tatianacoin #2149 06:06 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    hey guys i’m in buenos aires. talked to Peter Todd, he’s going to add counterparty to his L1/L2 analysis :) reminded him of us and all the positive progress
  • @teysol #2150 06:08 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    ah amazing!
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2149 #2151 06:08 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Great initiative 🐸
  • @teysol #2152 06:09 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Peter Todd did a full security analysis of Counterparty way back when
  • @tatianacoin #2153 06:13 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    yeah he called it an L1
  • @tatianacoin #2154 06:13 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I can’t tell if he hates it or not but either way, bringing up visibility. also talked it up at my talk here, which is videoed so will share when I get it
  • @tatianacoin #2155 06:14 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    can I ask a prob dumb question? does an xcp asset add weight to bitcoin like an ordinal does?
  • @ffmad #2156 06:19 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    If there is no stamp it's not much data
  • @vectorconfetti #2157 06:22 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    right, unless you’re adding pictures into the bitcoin transaction (like stamps and ordinals do), it’s small
  • @teysol ↶ Reply to #2153 #2158 06:27 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I'd be happy to discuss this with him :) The original L2 was Lighting, which was—notably—stateless.
  • @teysol #2159 06:27 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    And he's always been a supporter of Counterparty. ❤️
  • @tatianacoin #2160 06:34 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    interesting ok
  • so if I wanted to put an actual song into something, what’s the best way to do it? like an mp3 w art
  • other people who are more knowledgeable about the tool space would probably be able to answer this one - it might be pretty expensive to pack all that data onto the blockchain because the fees scale with size. but doing something like 8 bit music with 8-bit encoding might be cheaper, a la the mario theme song
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #2161 #2163 06:40 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    best to ask Scrilla and Kane Mayfield about this - they commonly have to choose what to include in tokens, how much space it will be etc etc .... Scrilla previously did a GhostFakeKillah ordinal drop with this entire conundrum in mind
  • @tatianacoin #2164 06:43 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    ok but no way to do it w counterparty yet?
  • @teysol #2165 06:43 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    FWIW we're going to going to be making it much cheaper and easier to store data in Counterparty transactions in the future using "modern" encoding methods. But ultimately it's still gonna be tough to put an mp3 on Bitcoin affordably. You'd have to use an aggressive compression algorithm to say the least.
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #2164 #2167 06:44 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    always has been ways to do it with xcp - but the rest of the bitcoin nft community is OBSESSED with 'on-chain' - which is why people skim down and compress their mp3's so much to even fit it on an Ordinal
  • @teysol #2168 06:44 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    GitHub - LemonATsu/pop-to-8bit: A tool for converting pop song into 8bit chiptune song.

    A tool for converting pop song into 8bit chiptune song. - LemonATsu/pop-to-8bit

  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #2167 #2169 06:44 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    the costs are INSANE for even small songs
  • I reduced a file to 3.2 or 3.9, I wouldn’t wanna make a crappy track though. also I worry my maxi friends would have a meltdown for me using bitcoin w all that weight. cost is annoying but not quite the main factor
  • nice find, this would be fun
  • I think like 6000$
  • @teysol #2173 06:46 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    The nice thing about the new encoding methods is that they'll be extra extra prunable, so to speak.
  • @tatianacoin #2174 06:46 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    if I put my silk road song on there for example though it may be worth it
  • @teysol #2175 06:46 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    And costs should come down 75% immediately
  • @tatianacoin #2176 06:46 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    and maybe add on the physical hand drawn art
  • @tatianacoin #2177 06:46 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    as a real life piece or just use the image
  • will the song quality suck? I use full bands etc
  • @teysol #2179 06:47 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    probably. would take a lot of experimentation
  • is there an appx eta for this to land?
  • @teysol #2181 06:50 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    *approximately* end of year, with some activation period. we've got about 100 open issues on the roadmap to tackle first
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2182 06:57 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2183 06:57 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Hello
  • @teysol #2184 06:57 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    we've closed around 600 issues this year so far
  • @teysol #2185 06:58 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    hey @MrBitcoinBeast ! 👋
  • @dxmxnxcx ↶ Reply to #2174 #2186 06:59 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I would do it. It certainly isn’t going to be getting any cheaper
  • @dxmxnxcx #2187 07:00 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    It there isn’t suddenly going to be a rush of studios forking up 10k to upload mp3s onto the chain 😂
  • sorry don’t understand what you mean here
  • @tatianacoin #2189 07:05 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    would I just inscribe and then sell later when market is better?
  • @dxmxnxcx #2190 07:06 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I don’t know about any of that I’m just saying the cost
  • he is so bullish on Counterparty! I just invited him to this room when I ran into him. He’s an OG Tatiana coin holder too. :-)
  • @dxmxnxcx #2192 07:06 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Like 32 kbps is like low fi radio quality 48 is hifi I think
  • @dxmxnxcx #2193 07:07 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    32 kpbs is 4 KB/s and I think someone say you can fit like 75KB in an inscription ??
  • @dxmxnxcx #2194 07:07 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    So that’s like 15-16 second chunks plus metadata
  • @dxmxnxcx #2195 07:08 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    So a 3 minute song would need I guess 12 of those it if I got the math right at the lowfi quality hifi would need 18 inscriptions linked
  • @dxmxnxcx #2196 07:09 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    But if you repeat parts of the chorus could just be reused maybe
  • @dxmxnxcx #2197 07:11 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Lowfi would be kind of cool it’s like people listening to some record from 1900 haha
  • @teysol #2198 07:12 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I've personally put about 500kB in a single inscription
  • @Ru1yaAT #2199 07:12 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @dxmxnxcx #2200 07:12 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Oh woah so u can fit 2 minutes of song potentially
  • @teysol #2202 07:13 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    10 Ordinal Metas Everyone Should Know

    Leonidas breaks down the most important trends in the Ordinals ecosystem so newcomers can better understand the Ordinals market.

  • @teysol #2203 07:14 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    yeah I think it was actually 400kB
  • @dxmxnxcx #2204 07:14 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    You can make a “bitcoin edit” version like radio edit lol
  • @dxmxnxcx #2205 07:14 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    1:40 seconds 😂
  • @tatianacoin #2206 07:15 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I worked at a recording studio so making it lofi isn’t really that appealing unless I made a new song w that as the goal, keep it simple like guitar vocal one take type thing, but silk road the song for example is lush and high quality and I have a hard time wanting it to be small and squashed
  • @tatianacoin #2207 07:15 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    it’s a 4 min song
  • this would work for the original bitcoin jingle for me
  • @tatianacoin #2210 07:19 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    that I just got from my engineer
  • @tatianacoin #2211 07:19 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    could make it a bit shorter but seems cheesy a little
  • yes it can be done in a new song as a funky effect, kinda like the no ordinary kind song by violetta
  • @davesta #2213 07:37 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    At this time... it's either you spend the vast amount of money to put it on chain...or you you use an off chain way to do it and pray you can convince the "on-chain" maxis to buy it

    Just my two sats on the subject
  • @tatianacoin #2214 07:39 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I never wanna do
    things the meh way, seems like it would be best to do it as a realmordinal and shell out the dough
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #2183 #2215 08:26 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Welcome ser
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2209 #2216 08:28 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    How about breaking it down into each individual track? You put each one on-chain with a final transaction that pulls them all together (just don't ask me how to accomplish this).
  • @c0rnh0li0 #2217 08:28 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    I forget what it's called, but pfp collections do something like this by first inscribing each trait
  • @carsonated #2218 08:39 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    recursive inscriptions
  • @herpenstein #2219 08:55 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    We have that for stamps too
  • @herpenstein #2220 08:55 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    But it costs 4x as much
  • sounds complicated, i’m already v confused lol
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2221 #2223 09:02 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    What I'm imagining is say you have 16 tracks. You inscribe each track for ~200kb each then a 17 inscription that ties them all together.
  • @carsonated #2224 09:03 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    and the 17th one is the one that goes to market and the 16 can be sent to a burn address so all that trades is the final, and you could make others using those 16 snippets
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2224 #2225 09:03 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    The 17th run is used for ORD: on Counterparty
  • @carsonated #2226 09:03 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    yep
  • can an ord be on counterparty?
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2227 #2228 09:08 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Yeah, Counterparty tokens can point to an inscription all the same as Ordinals does
  • @burjsheikh #2229 09:26 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • Right now you can upload 1 MB to Bitcoin for 0.0045 BTC
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2231 09:59 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    But files more than 400KB cost at least a 2x Premium
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2232 09:59 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Therefore. 4MB file is around 0.1 BTC
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2233 09:59 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    These may seem like high costs but it's actually extremely cheap at the moment
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2234 10:01 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Also on litecoin it's $1 per MB
  • @universalchampz #2237 10:41 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • makes sense given the avg amount of fees paid per block right now
  • @hodlencoinfield #2239 10:51 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    is there a particular mining pool you know offering this service?
  • @might_be_larping #2241 11:11 PM, 02 Nov 2024
    Oops.. gm
  • 03 November 2024 (29 messages)
  • @teysol #2243 12:07 AM, 03 Nov 2024
  • Apologizing for use of block space is not the right approach in my opinion. If a txn pays for inclusion in a block that’s enough. It’s valid. Saying it’s “small” so it’s somehow better than a big txn misses the entire point. We pay to be included in blocks based on a fee market.
  • Marapool slipstream
  • Inscribe sorry.txt 1000000 times
  • definitely, not my intention to say smaller is better, just that it depends on the data in the tx
  • @MrBitcoinBeast #2248 12:20 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    Bigger is better
  • No apologies as there’s nothing to apologize for. Paying to use block space is all that matters. How it’s used is none of anyone’s business
  • @mikeinspace #2250 03:05 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    Mike In Space (@mikeinspace) on X

    Good overview of what’s been happening in Counterparty over the last couple years. Nice that @C0rnh0li0 has documented these forum posts so clearly as much of this would have otherwise been lost to history.

  • @davesta #2251 03:17 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    A little historic information about the 2014 Counterparty token 'LTBCOIN' - learn your Counterparty history here folks!

    https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1852908921666904171
  • @mnlclassic ↶ Reply to #2243 #2252 08:02 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    So the fork is over, except for that tokenscan and fw has it as an option?
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2251 #2254 08:26 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    this would be great to have on the website. I'm not sure how to present it, but an historical section on the website would be really interesting (and shows the long history of CP)
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #2254 #2255 08:51 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    has been my goal since day 1 :)

    i know Damian just used the embed function to link the whole timeline - but inviting a graphic designer to do something artistic with it (and picking the main historical groundbreaking projects to include) would be awesome too!

    https://github.com/davestaxcp/CounterpartyTimeline2023
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2255 #2256 09:05 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    Yeah, I know and you did an incredible work 👏.

    The question is more that this is a lot of data, and how to display it in a easy way for the user to browse
  • @CDNStorm #2257 11:21 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    None
  • @cozykek #2258 11:37 AM, 03 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @ffmad #2260 12:37 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    This can be done directly
  • @ffmad #2261 12:38 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    By doing a pull request on the content of the website. For example for marketplaces: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/Website/blob/master/src/content/marketplaces/marketplaces.md
    Website/src/content/marketplaces/marketplaces.md at master · CounterpartyXCP/Website

    Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/Website development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @ffmad #2262 12:39 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    If anyone has a platform that isn't listed, please add it 👍
  • @ffmad #2263 12:40 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    (I still need to add back the projects page when I find some time in between Fairmints dev)
  • @c0rnh0li0 #2264 12:47 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    Cornholio the Great (@C0rnh0li0) on X

    434e545250525459 CNTRPRTY 685623401c3f5e9d2eaaf0657a50454e56a270ee7630d409e98d3bc257560098 The first of millions of the moistest transactions on Bitcoin to contain this prefix. The start of the Proof of Burn. 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr 2,130.99062412 BTC

  • @c0rnh0li0 #2265 12:48 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    I share my thoughts as to why I believe the prefix is important and should not be changed
  • @c0rnh0li0 #2266 12:49 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    @jp_janssen has proposed shortening it to reduce the cost of transactions, but I believe maintaining that connection back to proof of burn is important.
  • @xoblort #2267 02:20 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    None
  • @CTTex ↶ Reply to #2137 #2268 02:48 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    gm - no, ended up losing the BTC that I sent. Wild - gonna fade this eco for now until stuff gets a bit more user friendly
  • @IMPOSSIBLEARTIFACTS #2269 05:17 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @IMPOSSIBLEARTIFACTS #2270 05:17 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    Sup goys
  • @XCERXCP #2271 05:20 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    Sup Luis
  • @ffmad #2272 11:56 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    ffmad.xcp (@quentinbdb) on X

    Is #FAIRSOUND the first musical #fairmint? 🎶 That's really cool @Zbyku! 🔥🔥 Check out this fairmint on @fairmints 🚀 https://t.co/fo3YTO52tj

  • @ffmad #2273 11:56 PM, 03 Nov 2024
    probably the first musical fairmint?
  • 04 November 2024 (133 messages)
  • @6517313784 #2274 12:03 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    I tried this fairmint
  • @6517313784 #2275 12:03 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    it doesn't do anything
  • Did you click the Play button?
  • @6517313784 #2277 12:15 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    i clicked all the buttons
  • @ffmad #2278 12:17 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    The play button is a little hidden because of the image repeat. Will fix that
  • @6517313784 #2279 12:18 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    hidden? where
  • Scroll down
  • @6517313784 #2281 01:15 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    the images of most of these tokens is not showing up
  • @6517313784 #2282 01:16 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    why and how can that be changed?
  • @mikeinspace #2283 01:17 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Where you looking, specifically?
  • @mikeinspace #2284 01:18 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    btw, fair mints don’t necessarily require images. Many probably just don’t have them as these are seen as meme tokens
  • @mikeinspace #2285 01:18 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Similar to Runes. The ticker is the art.
  • @borq6 #2286 08:12 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @GiLBeex ↶ Reply to #1861 #2287 08:14 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Any articles about 2024 counterparty forks? Was it hard/soft forks etc?
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2287 #2288 08:39 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    It's not really either, as counterparty isn't a blockchain
  • @GiLBeex ↶ Reply to #2288 #2289 08:40 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Adam used the term “fork” on the X space last week, referring to J-Dog’s fork
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2289 #2290 08:42 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    yeah. I would say it's similar to a soft fork, as it's backward compatible
  • @GiLBeex ↶ Reply to #2290 #2291 08:44 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    How’s the activation mechanism work compared to Bitcoin soft forks ?
  • @booey88 ↶ Reply to #2291 #2292 08:56 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Probably a question for the dev channel
  • @GiLBeex ↶ Reply to #2292 #2293 08:57 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Got a link to the channel?
  • @booey88 ↶ Reply to #2293 #2294 08:58 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Counterparty Development Chat

    Group for discussion about Counterparty based development Github: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/ Docs: https://docs.counterparty.io/ API: https://counterpartycore.docs.apiary.io/

  • @GiLBeex ↶ Reply to #2292 #2295 09:00 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    And from the users side, what’s the meaning of having CP classic & CP 2.0 ?
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2295 #2296 09:25 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    There is no CP 2.0. Just last version Counterparty v10.6 and some people keeping and obsolete version v9.6 called "Classic" for some reasons
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2291 #2297 09:26 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    the upgrade activated at a certain Bitcoin Block
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2287 #2298 09:27 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    It's a token by token fork. Certain actions result in an invalid tx on one side or the other, while being accepted on the other side.
    -Opening a dispenser on an empty address on old versions
    -Buying from a dispenser from a vanilla BTC wallet rather than an XCP wallet will only dispense the token on old versions.
    -Fairmints and UTXO binding on the newest version

    These are the actions that result in tokens being forked.
  • @ffmad #2299 09:29 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    upgrade was announced in september 1 month before upgrade on the network (which happened at block 866,000)
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2298 #2300 09:35 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    It should be noted that this is nothing new. If anyone uses an old wallet, you are potentially exposing yourself to similar risks.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #2301 09:36 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    For example, the update from 9.59 - 9.6 had the reset divisible asset function. Once an asset was reset, it was forked away from its previous self on all versions prior to 9.6
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #2298 #2303 11:32 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    "only dispense the token on older versions"... Is this really a good idea? Can't the new version recognize when tokens are being sent to a "vanilla" wallet?
  • @nutildah #2304 11:34 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    I know it's already endured a lot of debate, but it should be an opt-in feature rather than a "my way or the highway" feature, IMO
  • @booey88 #2305 11:42 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    1. Who cares about what happens on old versions

    Using old versions of *any* software (especially network- facing software) is asking for trouble

    2. All features work normally again as confirmed by the devs a few days ago
  • @nutildah #2306 11:49 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    Because I don't want to have to re-open 40-odd dispensers, that's why. Nobody does.

    "All features work normally".. does that include recognizing token sends to "vanilla" wallets?
  • @booey88 ↶ Reply to #2306 #2307 11:53 AM, 04 Nov 2024
    ???

    Sorry, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Why would you need to reopen 40 dispensers ?

    And can you clarify what you mean by « recognizing token sends to vanilla wallets »

    Doesn’t make any sense, at least to me
  • @therealmunehisahonma #2308 12:14 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Self-custody / is Saylor Moon still our friend?

    In past years, Saylor has done much to encourage investment in bitcoin and raise its profile among both the public and institutional investors.

    This is somewhat OT, but given that counterparty runs on BTC and that almost all counterparty assets are in self-custody, Saylor's recent "bait-and-switch" move towards institutional custody is surprising and worthy of discussion.

    I listened to his comments in an interview today, which unfortunately I could not find, so instead I will share an article summarizing his current thinking.

    https://coinmozo.com/michael-saylor-bitcoin-controversy-custodial-debate/

    Key points from Saylor:

    "In an interview with financial journalist Madison Reidy on October 21, Saylor indicated that Bitcoin holders would be better off entrusting their Bitcoin to major, regulated institutions such as BlackRock, Fidelity, and JP Morgan rather than attempting to hold it themselves."

    Previously, Saylor "believed that keeping Bitcoin in self-control would prevent strong custodial entities from destroying the decentralized essence of Bitcoin."

    His latest comments "imply that Bitcoin is safer in the hands of huge financial institutions, which are regulated and backed by lawmakers and government officials. He argues that institutions such as BlackRock, Fidelity, and JP Morgan offer trust and stability that private individuals cannot match."

    "He dismissed concerns about confiscation as “paranoid” ideas held by “crypto anarchists.”

    "Reidy highlighted the US government’s gold seizure under Executive Order 6102 in 1933. Those who advocate self-custody frequently point to this historical incident as a cautionary tale."

    "Saylor disputed the parallel, claiming that........the government has no motive to take (seize) Bitcoin."
    Michael Saylor Bitcoin Controversy: The Custodial Debate

    Michael Saylor Bitcoin Controversy which created a trust in big financial institutions for self-custody, has recently triggered a debate.

  • On modern counterparty, you now just need to trigger dispensers from a counterparty wallet, versus using a bitcoin wallet. But there’s no need to reopen all your dispensers. If you are running a modern wallet, your dispensers all got upgraded automatically.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2309 #2310 12:19 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I wouldn't even say a Counterparty wallet but send a bitcoin transaction with Counterparty data
  • There is basically only one version of counterparty that is being maintained. While JDog is running an old version he is calling “Classic”, he is not promising to maintain or upgrade it in any way. It will stay exactly as it is. It’s not recommended to use it because you can lose assets on the main chain, and then you’ll lose those assets on the counterparty version that is actually getting new features and updates.
  • @ffmad #2312 12:20 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    On Fairmints we're using purely Bitcoin wallet like Unisat, they don't even recognize XCP natively. But can send dispensers or any XCP transaction 👍
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #2309 #2313 12:23 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    So you're not considering Freewallet a "Counterparty wallet" anymore? Im really just trying to understand what's going on.
  • It’s not a recommended wallet because the person running it is hosting a fork, but as long as you are careful, especially when you open links from other people who might try to scam you, to only ever use Freewallet 2.0 and tokenscan 2.0, it will work as expected. The reason that it’s been disclaimed on the website is that it’s a big trap for newbies to fall into with bad actors
  • @vectorconfetti #2315 12:25 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    The goal is avoid losing assets on the main chain
  • @nutildah #2316 12:26 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Well there's only 1 chain and that's bitcoin
  • @vectorconfetti #2317 12:26 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    The counterparty states between “classic” and main (which are both nested inside the bitcoin chain) are different and they will continue to diverge. You can already see people complaining in the other chat that their balances are different on the fork versus the main chain
  • @nutildah #2318 12:28 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    It's not a chain so much as a database but I know what you mean.

    So if you trigger a dispense on Freewallet it won't be reflected in Horizon wallet, or whatever the "modern" counterparty wallet is you're referring to. Is that correct?
  • @vectorconfetti #2319 12:30 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    No, JDogs plan is to have two versions of freewallet and two versions of tokenscan. As long as you always use what is up to date it will work the same exact way as Horizon, Rare Pepe Wallet, etc.
  • @nutildah #2320 12:30 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Ok AFAIK there is still just 1 freewallet
  • Yep, the main trap right now is to make sure you’re not accidentally looking at la “classic” tokenscan link, especially when someone sends you a link. Unfortunately the websites look almost exactly the same except a reworded banner and the link text
  • @nutildah #2322 12:33 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Nobody's sending me any links man 😅 I've been using Counterparty for over 10 years
  • @vectorconfetti #2323 12:34 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Not trying to offend, this is just a public chat room so I want to be clear for anyone reading along
  • @GiLBeex ↶ Reply to #2314 #2324 12:34 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    But technically the fork is the always newer version (?) for example : Ethereum is a fork of Ethereum Classic
  • @nutildah #2325 12:35 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I do understand. I'm just not thrilled that the modern counterparty won't recognize token sends to vanilla wallets.
  • @nutildah #2326 12:35 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Seems like it's easily implementable
  • It recognizes sends
  • @vectorconfetti #2328 12:36 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    It’s just dispense triggers that have changed - They need to be marked as counterparty transactions now
  • @vectorconfetti #2329 12:36 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Just like you couldn’t send from a vanilla btc wallet before, you now cannot trigger dispenses from vanilla wallets anymore
  • @nutildah #2330 12:36 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Ok so I mean a send on the old version should be recognized on the new version... Is this how it will be?
  • @nutildah #2331 12:38 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    More specifically a dispense send, regardless of what version
  • @vectorconfetti #2332 12:38 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Dispense triggers from a “classic” wallet will not trigger a modern dispenser
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #2325 #2333 12:38 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    There seems to be a misunderstanding here… Where did you read that this is the case ?
  • @nutildah #2334 12:39 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Right.. that I can live with. I just want to make sure dispense sends are being processed in both versions. It sounds like they are, so that's good.
  • @vectorconfetti #2335 12:39 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    What is a dispense send? I just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing
  • @Niftyboss1 #2336 12:40 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Yeah the following terms have very specific meanings and shouldn’t be mixed up:

    Send
    Dispense
    Wallet
    Address
  • @nutildah #2337 12:41 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    For example, let's say someone buys something from my dispenser using Freewallet. Will that send be recognized by the Horizon wallet? Like the token balance will be adjusted on both ledgers?
  • @vectorconfetti #2338 12:41 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Only if they are using the modern version of freewallet. If they’re using classic it won’t
  • @vectorconfetti #2339 12:42 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    It’s not a wallet thing, the counterparty nodes themselves won’t register it
  • @Niftyboss1 #2340 12:42 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Up-to-date FreeWallet and Horizon use the same ledger
  • @nutildah #2341 12:42 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Ok but there's only 1 freewallet. I didn't know about the plans for dual wallets. I will ask J-Dog about it.
  • @nutildah #2342 12:42 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Thanks
  • @vectorconfetti #2343 12:42 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    For sure.
  • @vectorconfetti #2344 12:45 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    The “classic” version and the modern version will also continue to diverge at the protocol level as new updates are introduced to the modern version, so what is true today may not be true in a year from now. Trying to use an old version intermingled with a new version can continue to have increasingly unpredictable behavior. There is no long term plan in place by any developer to update the classic version and it’s not supported by the modern version
  • @vectorconfetti #2345 12:47 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    NB: not a counterparty or wallet developer, just a user
  • I would like to drop the idea of using "Classic" terminology. There is only current CP and then bad actors supporting tooling for older versions that will cause users risk. There is not reason to use tooling that is not talking to the latest version of CP.
  • @vectorconfetti #2347 02:28 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I totally agree - I’m just trying to figure out the best way to communicate with people who are getting most of their info from JDog.
  • @robotlovecoffee #2348 02:28 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    100% get it
  • @robotlovecoffee #2349 02:29 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I just refer to it as 9.x as it is just a older version of the ledger.
  • No there are two
  • @teysol #2351 02:30 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Literally zero people have expressed interest in running the old version. Even J-Dog has said he has had no reason to release it except as a sign of "protest". 🙄
  • What? Nothing has changed with asset sends
  • Great, I’ll do that going forward.
  • @teysol #2354 02:32 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I think the best approach is to point users at other wallets wherever possible, with the caveat that there are still features that only Freewallet 2.0 supports
  • @vectorconfetti #2355 02:33 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Unfortunately JDog has really dug in on this victim mentality - like he isn’t doing anything wrong by running a protest (hostile) fork, so does just directing them to a different wallet that doesn’t have the features that they want right now really help with that?
  • @6774721178 ↶ Reply to #2351 #2356 02:34 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    👋
    I use thé old version for mpma for cheapest fées as some months ago , so to bé honnest, it is a good thing for some of my TX 🙂
  • @teysol #2357 02:35 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Japrog you don't need to run the fork to use the old, flakey, cheaper encoding for MPMA
  • @teysol #2358 02:35 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    J-Dog is intentionally conflating a number of issues, pretending that things are related to the protocol change that are not
  • So many counterparty classics!
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #2350 #2360 02:37 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Are counting the various versions of freewallet . io or including the freewallet . org which has eaten a lot of assets over the years?
  • @c0rnh0li0 #2362 02:38 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    The community pleaded with him to rebrand to avoid further losses, since the .org wallet doesn’t give access to private keys.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #2363 02:39 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    It baffles me that J-Dog keeps inventing ways for users to lose assets
  • That would make 3
  • But yeah, i don’t know if this approach is working for people who have been around for a long time who want to understand what’s going on. It’s the right approach for a new person, but someone who is used to freewallet and listening to a lot of lies from JDog is not gonna learn what they are trying to learn from this approach
  • @yodark #2367 02:58 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Guys I have a question about the public node
  • @yodark #2368 02:58 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I get hit with "Too many requests" quite often
  • @yodark #2369 02:58 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    what are the rate limiting rules ?
  • @teysol #2370 02:59 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    @yodark you mean api.counterparty.io?
  • @yodark #2371 02:59 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Too many requests is from all users ? or single IP ?
  • @teysol #2373 03:01 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    these are the rules we have for the public, free nodes
  • @teysol #2374 03:01 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    what is your usage pattern?
  • @yodark #2375 03:03 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Parsing the full chain loading block per block when cathing up with the chain. Then call every 3 minutes to check if there are new blocks
  • @yodark #2376 03:03 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    but not fairmint
  • @yodark #2377 03:03 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    get_block_info
  • Why would you do that?
  • @yodark #2380 03:04 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    yep
  • @teysol ↶ Reply to #2375 #2381 03:04 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    @yodark you mean using J-Dog's PHP script?
  • @yodark ↶ Reply to #2381 #2382 03:05 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    yes
  • @teysol #2383 03:06 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    yeah you can't use a free, public, Internet-facing API for building up a whole middleware MySQL database. that's an extremely heavy operation.
  • @yodark #2384 03:07 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    yeah I can imagine. Nevertheless used the publlic coindaddy for long time without much issues
  • @yodark #2385 03:07 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    we have also our node but it's on the synchronization limbo (needs to recatch up)
  • @teysol #2386 03:08 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    You should use your local node for that operation.
  • @teysol #2387 03:09 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    once the service is caught up, you can probably use the public API again, but it's still a Bad Idea(TM)
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #2385 #2388 03:09 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    For how long has it been syncing ?
  • @yodark #2389 03:09 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    like on the public node ?
  • @yodark #2390 03:09 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    ah you mean the node
  • @yodark ↶ Reply to #2388 #2391 03:10 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    1.5h about
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2391 #2392 03:10 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Are you using bootstrap?
  • @XJA77 #2393 03:11 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Or reparsing your old db?
  • @XJA77 #2394 03:11 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Reparsing is taking very long time
  • @hodlencoinfield #2395 03:11 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    What is the reason for not just using the API instead of creating a whole new db?
  • @yodark #2396 03:12 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    because there are some advanced queries that we cannot use the API for since we need to join a lot of data
  • Can you give an example?
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2396 #2398 03:13 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I believe that for long term would be good to report all this queries and add a way to use the API for getting them
  • @hodlencoinfield #2399 03:13 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Are you using the REST api? https://counterpartycore.docs.apiary.io/
    Counterparty Core API · Apiary

    A place where APIs are kept.

  • @yodark #2400 03:14 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    get balance of SOG cards for a user.
    Get the marketcap of rarepepe collection
    For example
  • @XJA77 #2401 03:14 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I already have requested some sorting for some queries on GitHub and they have been added for the next releases
  • @yodark ↶ Reply to #2399 #2402 03:15 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    yes for some things yes
  • @teysol #2403 03:16 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    I've just loosed the rate limits significantly. It's still a Bad Idea(TM) to rely on such a service for building up the state of local middleware, but our node infrastructure can probably now handle much greater load.
  • @yodark #2404 03:19 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    🧡
  • @yodark #2405 03:20 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    Cool we will review the infra not to overload the public node
  • This is something you can get direct from API no? I’ve worked with the API extensively for both my wallet and explorer and haven’t found a call yet that I needed to poll db directly for
  • @SeanLeo1 #2407 05:02 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    None
  • @7275570229 #2408 07:08 PM, 04 Nov 2024
    None
  • If only Roger Ver had kept his BTC with Blackrock, maybe "the government" wouldn't have asked Spain to take him into custody......😂
  • 05 November 2024 (35 messages)
  • @JD2983 #2410 04:32 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    None
  • @dxmxnxcx #2411 05:05 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    today i will take a moment of silence to pray to Lord Kek that this election goes the right way and our crypto and rare pepe bags pump in 2025
  • @hodlencoinfield #2412 05:07 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    Vote Bags 2024
  • @yodark #2413 05:11 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    @teysol some compose transaction generates a "upstream request timeout"

    https://api.counterparty.io:4000/v2/addresses/14HXLcjkAnd2s4CG3rB2C9JQztcVmrWgtE/compose/send?destination=1ErPs9mwUXp8f8UffGnBreRmjcyJAW1FLU&asset=SOGMETA&quantity=1
  • @yodark #2414 05:12 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    it happens for certains address
  • @hodlencoinfield #2415 05:14 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    My guess is it’s related to utxo selection
  • @yodark #2416 05:17 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @teysol #2417 06:10 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    okay yeah something is taking longer than some timeout
  • @teysol #2418 06:11 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    I think it's AddrIndexRs
  • @teysol #2419 06:15 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    yup, it is
  • @teysol #2420 06:16 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    not much we can do until we kill it. it's absolutely terrible
  • @vectorconfetti #2421 06:18 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    i see killing addrindexrs is in the 11.0 milestone, what’s the approximate timeline?
  • @teysol #2422 06:19 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    I'd say 3–4 weeks, roughly
  • @davesta #2423 08:28 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    Learn a little bit about TATIANACOIN, considered 'the first musical artist coin and the alpha for the concept of artist tokens' and issued using Counterparty in 2014.

    Some amazing historical gems in this summary, including album art from Ross Ulbricht, a clip of Tatiana mentioning Counterparty within a John Stossel segment on Fox News and the eventual issuance of TATIANACARD in the Spells of Genesis collection.

    https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1853896077658767794
    davesta.xcp (@davesta_xcp) on X

    One of the earliest artist tokens on @CounterpartyXCP is TATIANACOIN and was issued on June 4th, 2014. https://t.co/3xh4N8sljA Tatiana Moroz (@queentatiana), a graduate of Berklee College of Music, has been a vocal advocate in the Bitcoin community since 2012. She was a part

  • @yodark ↶ Reply to #2420 #2424 08:32 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    😱 does it mean we can’t move assets until then ?
  • @yodark #2425 08:34 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    I remember in the past sending an utxo was solving this kind of problem
  • @teysol #2426 08:40 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    oh there are workarounds. the best thing to do is probably to get the list of UTXOs for the address from an AddrIndexRs alternative like electrs and pass it in to the compose call via the inputs_set parameter. we host a public instance of electrs here:
  • @teysol #2427 08:40 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    curl 'https://api.counterparty.io:3000/address/14HXLcjkAnd2s4CG3rB2C9JQztcVmrWgtE/utxo'
  • @teysol #2428 08:41 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    Horizon Wallet e.g. uses that for tx construction
  • @CDNStorm #2429 09:31 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    @teysol Is there any way the issues between devs could be discussed in a long form moderated discussion on an X live?
    If there is any way to resolve the differences, the community would only stand to gain from it. If no resolution is reached, nothing is lost.
  • @mnlclassic #2430 09:49 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    It's just a waste of time, it wouldn't resolve anything, it would only inflame things further.
  • @7509998695 #2431 10:27 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @krostue #2432 10:36 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    There have been like three Twitter spaces in the last few months. Plenty of opportunity to join the conversation then. Now everyone needs to, yet again, capitulate with someone that has proven themselves, time and time again, to be non-negotiable? I would say, no thanks for the invitation for more drama.

    Hahaha. I'm not a core Dev, but I ran out of patience for durrrdog long ago
  • @vectorconfetti #2433 10:43 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    If they’re implementing replay protection, it’s fine. People who really want last year’s version of counterparty-core forevermore with just one tool, Freewallet, can use it. It’s a fine resolution IMO.
  • @griffin91x #2434 10:44 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    no one will actually download/use classic, its purely being used as a battering ram. glad the devs here are fully focused on the protocol itself
  • There's only 1 dev and his product/tool that is causing the confusion. Which he also provided access to the current 10.6,
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2436 10:46 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    If I would put a number on devs, there's 30+ running 10.6 and maybe 2 who run 9.6, which neither are actively building products or improving
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2437 10:47 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    I've not heard leather, Okx, or unisat wallets complain/ throttle/censor our usage. And all 3 are opensource audited.
  • @vectorconfetti #2438 10:49 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    This isn’t even the only time this year JDog has threatened to fork. There’s no point in continuing to humor someone who is acting in bad faith, as it only encourages the behavior.
  • I've witnessed them throughout the last 1.5~ years
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2440 10:51 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    2 years in a few months
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2441 10:52 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    always stay focused and engineer the solutions and tooling. Just takes time...
  • @vectorconfetti #2442 10:53 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    Once his spite fork load is blown, that’s the only tool he has to try and stay relevant. He can’t do it a second time (without being totally absurd)
  • @carsonated #2443 10:55 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    this one is absurd after the last one, and the one before that and...
  • @mnlclassic ↶ Reply to #2434 #2444 11:07 PM, 05 Nov 2024
    They should go all in on dogeparty
  • 06 November 2024 (203 messages)
  • @dxmxnxcx ↶ Reply to #2411 #2445 05:10 AM, 06 Nov 2024
    the power of prayer to Lord Kek
  • @therealmunehisahonma #2447 09:29 AM, 06 Nov 2024
    BTC seems to like Trump......BTC punched through ATH in yen this afternoon......ETH still stuck in a cheesy range 😂
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #2448 10:18 AM, 06 Nov 2024
    So, it is still an issue -when I have several dispensers on 1 same addy- the buyer can trigger other dispensers while buying from one..
  • That behavior (sometimes called multidispenser by people who like using them that way) remains unchanged from before
  • Thanks, I got it
  • @CDNStorm #2451 04:01 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    @teysol

    Is there any way the issues between devs could be discussed in a long form moderated discussion on an X live?
    If there is any way to resolve the differences, the community would only stand to gain from it. If no resolution is reached, nothing is lost.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #2429 #2452 04:05 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Why is it that you are repeating yourself while ignoring input from other members here?
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2452 #2453 04:06 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I appreciate the feedback, but the question was for Adam
  • @krostue #2454 04:06 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    This is the counterparty room. Where we all discuss counterparty.
  • @CDNStorm #2455 04:06 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I'm sure he is busy. Repeating in case he missed it
  • He's extremely active on github
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2457 04:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Amazing work on the protocol improvements
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #2453 #2458 04:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Did you ask J-dog too? FYI he declined to speak in the last space with Adam
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2458 #2459 04:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Yes, he agreed
  • @teysol #2460 04:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    J-Dog was invited to speak with me on the Emblem Vault podcast. he declined
  • @krostue #2461 04:15 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Imho it's Backfire effect on the cult of the personality. Cognitive dissonance theory in action. IMHO very educational to watch it all play out
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2460 #2462 04:15 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Ok, if you were willing and he is willing, maybe some good could come from it
  • @CDNStorm #2463 04:16 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I told him I'd ask, he gave a thumbs up. I'd have to confirm he'd want to, but if you're willing I can at least let him know and you guys could see if you could work something out.
  • @teysol #2464 04:16 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    this isn't a "disagreement about ideas" or something like that. J-Dog is attempting to blackmail the whole ecosystem into re-introducing a security vulnerability into the protocol because he feels left out
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2464 #2465 04:17 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I hear you, I just wonder if you two talking about it might lead somewhere good.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #2465 #2466 04:17 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I feel like you keep refusing to listen to what everyone is telling you :/
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2466 #2467 04:19 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I'm asking Adam Duncan.
  • @krostue #2468 04:21 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Okay great you got his attention so let's move on?
    I'm sure he will either message you or Jeremy or whomever as he sees fit. Thanks for understanding that circular logic is borderline on drama creation
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2468 #2469 04:22 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Duncan, I'm interested in what Adam has to say. Communication is a good thing, please stop trying to shut it down.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2465 #2470 04:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Jdog doesn't want a bug to be fixed, while any other dev working with Counterparty is happy to not have it anymore. That is all.
  • @CDNStorm #2471 04:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    He does not need anybody to speak for him.
  • @ffmad #2472 04:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    It's not just Adam
  • @vectorconfetti #2473 04:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    You’re asking in a public chat, if you need to have a private conversation do it over DM
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2474 04:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Dispenser logic chnages and atomic swaps were a year in the making...
  • @CDNStorm ↶ Reply to #2473 #2475 04:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    This is not a conversation I wanted to have in private. It's a counterparty issue. This is the Counterparty chat.
  • @krostue #2476 04:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I'm here taking time out of my day to explain things to you

    for the benefit of everyone involved, maybe you could try to help keep the Jeremy fan club to the other dozen chat rooms where he constantly tries to spin his disingenuous yarn one illegitimate statement at a time
  • Cool, the counterparty community has responded to you a lot.
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2478 04:25 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Protocol and community in the best state it has ever been...
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2478 #2479 04:25 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Since 2014
  • @ffmad #2481 04:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I bet the first years it was working quite well
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #2475 #2482 04:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    READTHEROOM
  • @Suvangi99 #2483 04:27 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    None
  • @Suvangi99 #2484 04:27 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Hello, Suvangi here from Coinstore- a Singapore based cex.

    Whom do i contact to discuss a partnership/ listing opportunity?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #2484 #2485 04:28 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    If you would like to learn more about the project stick around please. You will learn that this is an open source endeavor that will not make an economic contract for listing

    thank you for your time
  • @biosaurus #2486 07:55 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    frens, how far out dex capabilities in horizon wallet? Is there any way to buy from dex?
  • @teysol #2487 07:55 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Soon(TM) 😊
  • @biosaurus #2488 07:56 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Perfect
  • @vectorconfetti #2489 07:56 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    @horizonXCP for horizon info
  • @krostue #2491 08:55 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    As far as I understand it, the best way to interface with the protocol is via command line. I don't have links to share at the moment for a how-to. But I think that methodology is fully featured and the least political as it belongs to the core or something
  • @teysol #2492 09:50 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Yeah right now we have a pretty friendly REST API, but ofc. many people aren't going to want to use that. We have a plan to rebuild the old, broken, defunct CLI though. Should be pretty easy with the v2 API.
  • @vectorconfetti #2493 09:55 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    impatiently waiting for what’s to come! looking forward to it
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2486 #2494 10:44 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    firemints.xyz
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2494 #2495 10:45 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    this is the first platform to implement atomic swaps in counterparty, im sure more will come but at the moment if you want to test atomic swaps this is the place, i built it so if you have questions please let me know :)
  • @Arvik78 #2496 10:55 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @Arvik78 #2497 10:56 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    After replay protection is added the two ledgers will stop copying each other correct??
  • @vectorconfetti #2498 10:56 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Yes!
  • @Arvik78 #2499 10:56 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Excellent
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2497 #2500 10:57 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    open for buying :D
  • @Arvik78 #2501 10:59 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Can't wait till this 2.0 version of counterparty is separate from muh Pepe's.
    Thinking about burning all the 2.0 fork copies and keep the original OGXCP versions.
    But I'll sell ya dank AF OG Pepe's on original counterparty/classic once wallet is ready.
    Till then I don't want muh art diluted so I'm trying not to generate TXS on the fork version.
  • @Arvik78 #2502 10:59 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    🐸🪖🙏💚
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2501 #2503 11:00 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Big Bcash vibes there
  • @vectorconfetti #2504 11:01 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Looking forward to the replay protection and letting the market decide so we can stop talking about this over and over.
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2501 #2505 11:01 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    betterr selling me the fork assets than burning sir
  • @Arvik78 #2506 11:01 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    BCash? 🤔What's that?
  • @XJA77 #2507 11:02 PM, 06 Nov 2024
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2506 #2508 11:02 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Bitcoin cash, Jdog is doing his best interpretation of Roger Ver right now
  • @ffmad #2509 11:03 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    But let's stop talking about old versions of the software
  • @Arvik78 #2510 11:03 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    🤔
  • @Arvik78 #2511 11:03 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    BCash was fork off Bitcoin?
    Like counterparty 2.0 from counterparty right??
  • @chriscon17 #2512 11:05 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2511 #2513 11:05 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Yup, it didn't want to upgrade. It died. End of story, except the one who believed this was the "real Bitcoin" lost a huge amount of money
  • @vectorconfetti #2514 11:05 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    You’re the fork! No you’re the fork! etc etc etc
  • @ffmad #2515 11:05 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Upgrade or die
  • Yeah, Bitcoin cash turned out "great" for those who went all-in and sold their BTC and held the Bcash.
  • @ffmad #2517 11:06 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    That's just how things work in Blockchain
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2514 #2518 11:06 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Wait? What?? The fork was off from original counterparty I thought??
  • The market will decide
  • @XJA77 #2520 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    why is the classic done in v9.6 and not in v1??
  • @XJA77 #2521 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    thats my real question classic is classic
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2516 #2522 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    The worse part was the Bitcoin . com website selling Bcash as the real Bitcoin
  • @XJA77 #2523 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    v1 of counterparty is the classic lets spin a node in that version
  • @ffmad #2524 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Lot of newbies were burnt by this
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2519 #2525 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    What do you mean.
    The Software forked. There are two separate ledgers now since 2.0 forked🤔??
  • @Arvik78 #2526 11:07 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    What am I missing?
  • nothing! just the benefit of hindsight, which can only be had by waiting
  • @vectorconfetti #2528 11:08 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    So let’s wait and see
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2525 #2529 11:08 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    There is no v2
  • @ffmad #2530 11:09 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    There is just the main version, and some people running obsolete versions
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2527 #2531 11:09 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Forks are off the main chain.
    BCash forked off BTC.
    2.0 forked off classic.
    Those are facts not market speculation right?? 🤔
  • @carsonated #2532 11:09 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    there is current counterparty and out of date counterparty, drink if you dare
  • @carsonated #2533 11:09 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    sometimes the milk is still okay, other times its chunky
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2532 #2534 11:09 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    The 2.0 fork isn't working though. It has made bugs??
  • @carsonated #2535 11:10 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    it works fine
  • @6517313784 #2536 11:10 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    no it doesn't
  • @Arvik78 #2537 11:10 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Why so many updates since launch??
  • @daveartnft #2538 11:10 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Joined.
  • @al_fernandz #2539 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    There wasn't a real single update in counterparty for years, sir
  • @carsonated ↶ Reply to #2536 #2540 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    works fine and works perfect are two different things
    I'd ask you to show any previous version release that was perfect
  • @Arvik78 #2541 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Is this a spoof room? Like the onion?
    I'm being serious trying to learn and you guys make no sense??
  • @Arvik78 #2542 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    The fork already happened. 2.0 IS the fork
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2543 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    CounterParty 10.6.1
  • @Arvik78 #2544 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    What am I missing??
  • @carsonated #2545 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    you drank the koolaid I see
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2546 11:11 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    There is only 1 CounterParty
  • @Arvik78 #2547 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Exactly
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2548 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Then those who choose to experiment on obsolete versions.
  • @vectorconfetti #2549 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Yes the seven sons of JDog have made a few stops here today
  • @Arvik78 #2550 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Classic
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2534 #2551 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    +30 dispensers and +70 dispenses in 3 days
  • @Arvik78 #2552 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Like coke classic
  • @ffmad #2553 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Dispensers works perfectly
  • @Arvik78 #2554 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Not coke 2.0
  • @Arvik78 #2555 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    It didn't sell and caused cancer or something right??
  • @al_fernandz #2556 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Collectors and market won't give value to the outdated version. I can tell Pepes there are worth zero
  • @al_fernandz #2557 11:12 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    (Spoke to many big collectors)
  • @NorthrnSatosh #2558 11:13 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    10.6.1 works amazing with Leather, OKX, and unisat
  • @vectorconfetti #2559 11:13 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    But again, no need to talk about it endlessly. Isn’t everyone absolutely sick of this conversation? Just me?
  • @Arvik78 #2560 11:13 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I have been using XCP as a savings account on limited budgets with a family to feed.
    I care tons about what's happening and an trying to understand
  • @vectorconfetti #2561 11:13 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Ok, what’s your question?
  • @vectorconfetti #2562 11:13 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Because so far it looks like trolling.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2560 #2563 11:15 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    If you care, follow the consensus, or you will lose money. It's as simple as that. And everyone runs the latest version of Counterparty.
  • @Arvik78 #2564 11:18 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I'm trying to understand how long till muh art and XCP get separated from this ridiculous fork 2.0....
    Muh dispensers I can't even close from main addy anymore....
    And I have to send funds to each addy now to close them...
    The dispensers stopped working correctly after 2.0 fork happened. Funds would arrive but not trigger dispenser. This almost cost me 350$ of xcp that I sent to dispenser that didn't trip. Luckily the owner sent them manually.
    I haven't been doing TXS since because of paranoia of loosing money in fees.
    Now I just want to know how long till the fork 2.0 version adds replay protection??
    🪖🙏💚
  • What's the latest node count?
  • JDog is adding replay protection as he already said. He said sometime next week. Is that clear enough?
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2564 #2567 11:19 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    So I can move on
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2566 #2568 11:19 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Wait?? Doesn't the fork add replay protection??
    Like BCash??
  • @Arvik78 #2569 11:19 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    😱
  • @teysol #2571 11:20 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    @Arvik78 please stop the trolling
  • @Arvik78 #2572 11:20 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    This is so confusing.
    I really wish the fork version 2.0 had better initial testing because it has some great tooling and counterparty really needs a diverse environment of choices with tooling
  • @teysol #2573 11:20 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    this is a channel for actual discussion of actual reality
  • @vectorconfetti #2574 11:20 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Warning 2 : please stop trolling or you’ll be muted
  • @Arvik78 #2575 11:21 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Wait?? Me??
    I'm not trolling.
    These are genuine questions
  • @ffmad #2576 11:21 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    In another topic, with Fairmints we run a raffle on Dispensers market on PEPEFAIR to try and check everything works well, in 3 days:
    - 18 dispensers opened
    - 53 dispenses
  • @Arvik78 #2577 11:21 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I looked up BCash and am starting to understand more
  • @ffmad #2578 11:21 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Everything worked well
  • @6517313784 #2579 11:21 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    everyone using FW is screwd and the horizonwallet looks like its in beta and you make ppl pay 3 times to close/open a dispenser and you think that is ok???
  • @ffmad #2580 11:22 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    And people used same address to open dispenser and buy at the same time
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2579 #2581 11:22 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    What are you taking about?
  • @Arvik78 #2582 11:22 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    From FW we open as many as we r want or close with one tx
  • @Arvik78 #2583 11:22 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    That's why I like classic better than the fork
  • @vectorconfetti #2584 11:22 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Sorry, what’s your question Arvik? I think I answered it.
  • @vectorconfetti #2585 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Let me know if you need any clarification
  • @Arvik78 #2586 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I'm trying to understand why the fork isn't adding replay protection??
  • @teysol #2587 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    -houston, Counterparty is a decentralized project. The development of Horizon Wallet is completely independent of fixing the bug that required the additional transactions for opening dispensers on empty addresses.
  • @Arvik78 #2588 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    💚🙏
  • @vectorconfetti #2589 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Ok, so you’re repeating the same question over and over and ignoring the answer
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2586 #2590 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Jdog is adding it
  • @ffmad #2591 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    You have your answer
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2587 #2592 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Horizon is the only wallet that works with the fork I thought?
  • @ffmad #2593 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    You can now go in peace
  • @ffmad #2594 11:23 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Or be kicked out
  • @vectorconfetti #2595 11:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I just muted
  • @6517313784 ↶ Reply to #2583 #2596 11:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    thats all it was for it did 1 thing really well
  • @Arvik78 ↶ Reply to #2590 #2597 11:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    What am I doing to get kicked out I'm trying to understand why the 2.0 fork is waiting so long to add replay protection?
  • @carsonated ↶ Reply to #2597 #2598 11:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    this has been answered
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #2592 #2599 11:24 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    no sir now you can use many others unisat, okx, leather, unishat, phantom....
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2599 #2600 11:25 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Dozens of wallets 🔥
  • @carsonated #2601 11:25 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    We really gotta think about the people being fooled into a cult of personality and try to find a way to bridge their being misdirected so they can see how they are being played
  • @vectorconfetti #2602 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Ugh, yeah IDK. I’m not good enough for that
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #2601 #2603 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    This is SO much like Bcash
  • @carsonated #2604 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    thats where we need to be good enough and care enough
  • @ffmad #2605 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    And the Roger Ver cult
  • @ffmad #2606 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    It's crazy
  • @carsonated #2607 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    I know we can do it
  • @al_fernandz #2608 11:26 PM, 06 Nov 2024
    Pepes there are worth zero. Market will teach.