- 01 January 2025 (19 messages)
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Happy New Years
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Yeah the projects that were created on counterparty network definitely surpass the value of the platform that spawned them
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I recently paid 1 btc for roughly 7000xcp
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I wanna become a dex liquidty provider
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Have many many more
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That would put xcp back near all time highs of $100/coin. I think the "move decimal point" is an important for dex liquidity and exchange listing liquidty
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Gonna be harder and hard to accumulate large blocks as time passes....
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This sounds interesting. Could you ELI5 what this means?
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Buy more xcp?
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All this talk is developers and users trying to find a use case for XCP. It doesn't need any more use case as is. You trying to manipulate a token to give you more leverage?? Rather than participate in the program to restore balance based on how it is defined!!!
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I think this translates to wanting to be a market maker, which is important for any efficient market. NM90 used to be a market maker for pepecash on tux I think
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ELI5
Providing asks for people to buy into and bids for people to sell into - 02 January 2025 (23 messages)
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I've heard they are working on a new version where it will be non-custodial, and they don't have the keys
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And an ai that manages it all and can do crosschain swaps
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I believe it will be a shared Multisig held by multiple trusted parties. I don’t think you could build a product like Emblem that was completely non-custodial.
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First time in a while that I've seen xcp go up then go down, and then go up again further than the first time
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Buy pressure is on... not many coins left under $20
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atomic swaps coming in on XCP market - feelsgoodman.jpg
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Seems to be some sitting here starting at $12.57 USD..........
https://t.me/counterpartygeneral/5465Niftyboss in CounterpartyUpdated - 1089 XCP available on verified dispensers https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/f5c0cb9dacab88693406f6e05c50aabb8e0961cb860eed345208f21539f01f25 -- 0.00010980 -- 80 XCP https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/b8bb3866df7836c46dde6490306f7407ab8c7a11e7606b03e397b98481fd728d -- 0.00012900 -- 294 XCP https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/7e96084f756c6cc9f4f384a9e2c3f632adf9876904b90ab42b27f59cbc1d9d10 -- 0.00014100 -- 100 XCP https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/3263585d71e1132f167e987ecc42f4d25779dba6c080dcd2bff2d9bb1b432a41 -- 0.00014150 -- 110 XCP https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 115 XCP https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP Notes: - As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers - Larger lots are also available OTC - DM for more info - Some XCP lots are also available on the atomic swaps…
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Trading moving from dispensers to atomic swaps?
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there have been about 1450 XCP sold with atomic swaps on horizon.market in the last week or so compared with about 2850 on dispensers
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Catching up....
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there might be an arbitrage opportunity right now looking at prices on open verified dispensers and sale prices on horizon
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Definitely looks that way. One would think someone with a horizon wallet account who knows how to use both would close that price gap, but maybe it will take a while for people to adapt to the new way of trading (atomic swaps).
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At least both are accessible from a single wallet, which in itself simplifies the arbitrage process a LOT.
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successful arbitrage just means finding a gap in pricing between markets - it’s not without risk and the risk is higher if the liquidity is lower. the risk being, you cannot sell what you bought for the price you hoped
- 03 January 2025 (8 messages)
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Updated - 989 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/1ace8ec72e43a8b3eec46d4471503f1ab0b564c213e81ae551e6f10d23c1352e -- 0.00012800 -- 90 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/b8bb3866df7836c46dde6490306f7407ab8c7a11e7606b03e397b98481fd728d -- 0.00012900 -- 294 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/7e96084f756c6cc9f4f384a9e2c3f632adf9876904b90ab42b27f59cbc1d9d10 -- 0.00014100 -- 100 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 115 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
Notes:
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Larger lots are often available OTC - DM for more info
- Some XCP lots are also available on the atomic swaps market (rug-free!):
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What happens when an "address is closed"?
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That’s fair! It will send extra BTC in the amount of the current transaction fee.
So if you look at the Confirm Send details after you have checked the "Send Extra BTC" box, you'll see it is sending a BTC Quantity of 3600 sats; that includes the 1800 sats to cover the fee to open the dispenser, and an extra 1800 sats that will be sent to the address. that way you have some btc at that address should you want to close the dispenser.
also note sending extra btc here does not require an extra transaction. - 04 January 2025 (11 messages)
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Hi NB!
New verified XCP dispenser incoming:
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/df923b631c9912dffc7b5ce082485bda0b5329965d1f3400118899376e308e6c
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I get the feeling we will start to see some more buying off dispensers and dextrade soon
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$100k buy removes a huge supply overhead
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with another 100k buy we make x3 on dextrade
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Up up up !!
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Huge saving for Stamps!
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- 05 January 2025 (17 messages)
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wen 1000$? ❤️ more and more people joining the XCP ship , i'm happy tbh
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The price is still rather stationary
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What was Kevin's Message?
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I deposited....
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very alluring offer to turn 100usd into 1000usd
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Ohhhh lol
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@teysol if you build it they will come
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Field of dreams baby
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- 06 January 2025 (28 messages)
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some NFT milestones from the XCP Community from 2016-2018:
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Superrare pepes or NFTs that are divisible might be one other form of P2P currency as well as a store of value.
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Hi NB!
New verified XCP dispenser incoming:
https://mempool.space/tx/5bfa43ec2f9c338fd5e7d004a172eb465e87a8cd9200bf5e7eedfa2733e3b32e
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Just curious, why sell? I thought you said you were bullish on XCP 🔥
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Updated - 1228 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/be3b29e7a7c5abedaa515955bd123bd3958ca92e15218f9f168d935079dcd5e5 -- 0.00012800 -- 150 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/5bfa43ec2f9c338fd5e7d004a172eb465e87a8cd9200bf5e7eedfa2733e3b32e -- 0.00012900 -- 322 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/df923b631c9912dffc7b5ce082485bda0b5329965d1f3400118899376e308e6c -- 0.00015500 -- 223 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 23 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Current best OTC bid (MM): 500 XCP @ 10500 sat -- DM for details
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He’s got the plug
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I use it on linux 👍
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But it does not work well on Android
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how'd you install it?
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SATOSHICARD is divisible and used to appear on one of the market cap sites
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Same here
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Freewallet.io Chat
This is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer
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What would happen if you had a bunch of dispensers on your main address? I assume it would work as long as each of them had a different price.
Did they fix the accidental dispense if you send too much BTC? For example if I had two dispensers - one at 0.0005 BTC and another at 0.0006 and I sent 0.0006 would it only dispense the higher one?
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OR is it still best practices to use one addy per dispenser?
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Is the new dispenser functionality written up anywhere?
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@teysol can chime in if there’s a better source but the release notes for 10.4 document all dispenser changes.
“Multidispenser” behavior was left unchanged, so if you only want one dispenser to trigger then you should limit to one dispenser per address. Overpayment will still trigger all dispensers at or below the price paid.
The main functionality change is it now takes 2 transactions to open a dispenser on a new address instead of 1. Multiple wallets have implemented a workflow to make this a single-operation, two-transaction workflow. Reasoning is provided here:
https://docs.counterparty.io/docs/basics/faq/#what-is-the-origin-functionality-that-was-recently-lost
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/releases/tag/v10.4.0FAQ | CounterpartyCan I secure my XCP and Counterparty tokens in cold storage?
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Thanks @vectorconfetti. Just wrapping my head around this now.
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The other difference is you do not need to open a dispenser on a new address anymore, you can open it on the address where the asset is to begin with.
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well, the address where the asset is stored is your main address since you either created it or are selling it from your own collection. I think best practice would still have to be sending that asset to an empty address along with some BTC.
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Yep, makes perfect sense. @NorthrnSatosh mentioned that wallet.xcp.ninja implemented this 2-transaction workflow and horizon wallet also implemented it, with the option to additionally move btc to close the dispenser as well. The further transaction bundling functionality discussed in the FAQ for counterparty-core is not yet implemented, but should substantially reduce transaction fees in the future.
- 07 January 2025 (3 messages)
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Hi Joe!
I'm very bullish on XCP and hold a substantial position.
But I tend to like to see movement/liquidity in markets, and given that at the moment we only have sell XCP/buy BTC standing order mechanisms available (in both dispensers and atomic swaps, AFAIK), I like to supply a little liquidity while also gauging the buy XCP/sell BTC side of the market by putting out small orders to see how the market reacts/absorbs them. -
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- 09 January 2025 (62 messages)
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Can the inscription assets deployed by XCP FairMinter be increased in issuance?
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Counterparty Core API · Apiary
A place where APIs are kept.
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As it should be 🥲
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minting on counterparty would be really cool
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but we have already trumprare card :D
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and many others trump cards :D
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Hi NB!
New verified dispenser incoming:
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/beeceb18d4c79babd4914aeb5af5b75a44a0f52222fd0155ff298d071f261ca8
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I see under 4000 xcp left on dispensers
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Move price higher! .00016 new floor
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Yup! I’ve seen some nice action this week and last week
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If buying pressure overcomes selling pressure, we will have sustainable upward movement.
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We will seen OGs re appear to xcp this year imo
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Large x accounts will begin to push price and usage imo
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Just takes one match to light this fire imo
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It never seem to happen though
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Who knows what it would take.
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New days ahead with old dev back imo
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Selling pressure always catches up.
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Yeah, not gonna disclose details buy starting to see some buying interest......
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Oh do disclose pls
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We need disclosure
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Lol
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Let's just let it play out, only speculation/observations on my part
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The market discloses all in the long term!
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Yeeeeps
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Feel free to dm me your conspiracy theories
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Would love to hear it
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Maybe satoshi is buying xcp
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Trump will makes some stamps next probably
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Its a progression obviously
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Pretty bummed he went with ordinals —- need someone with an inside track to tell him about Counterparty.
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After a stamp he'll sell a fair mint as an atomic swap. Then, finally, on 11.11.25 he will post TRUMPRARE on the official WH Twitter
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BUT ordinals is counterparty adjacent, way better than the ETH shite....
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Its a progression of rugs...
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trumprare gonna fly to 100k each card as floor , it would be just 40M marketcap at this price . trumprare is a prophecy
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Eth dorks follow to ordinals which is more Eth adjacent than counterparty adjacent
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Stamps next
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Then real counterparty
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Gotta try the testnet
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Do we know Trump's wallet address? Drop a GAMESOFTRUMP nft in there to wake his crew up.......
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someone should drop both trumprare and gamesoftrump :D
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anyway sooner or later trump cards on xcp wil fly
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the first pump will come with greenland becoming part of usa.
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spices.
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ahahhah
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If we want to show "awareness" of the cryptocracy's plans for 2025, we should probably give a nod to the Rothschilds owned Economist's predictive programming 2025 issue and send Trump's team Counterparty NFTs for Trump, Xi, and Putin.
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Updated - 1415 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/beeceb18d4c79babd4914aeb5af5b75a44a0f52222fd0155ff298d071f261ca8 -- 0.00012700 -- 333 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 23 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/63cfae80d7caf50c37b139c4ee6f076db421e3b0d7bc34616a2318ae0b600e5a -- 0.00023000 -- 299 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/852277eeda9a25194d9c09650193da474eb2600995ee968d8f70e45892b0fdf7 -- 0.00023300 -- 250 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
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Which website?
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magiceden.io
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Thank you
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I want to mint some xcps,what shall i do?
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Do you mean buy XCP? XCP was fully minted out in 2014 :)
- 10 January 2025 (27 messages)
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Thank you
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I have a fun question: What XCP asset, which could be bought right now, do you think is the best value? Or what is the most undervalued asset at the moment?
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i would say BREITBARTPEP ;)
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the entire XCP space is undervalued - naka should be 5m + imo
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furthermore im poor so i take what i can get
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I know! My goal for this year is to somehow get a Naka before it's too late.
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Yeah, same here. I'm asking just more for fun than actual investment.
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I'm currently stacking PEPECASH! I think that might have my vote for most overlooked.
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ill trade a BREITBARTPEP for some PEPECASH ;)
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I do remember hearing something about this card once... did you do a zerog interview?
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TRUMPDANCING
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i cannot express the emotion i have with cards ive collected, created, bought or traded for - feel like im going through a divorce if i have to sell any of them
https://pepe.wtf/asset/PEPEDIVORCEPEPEDIVORCE | Pepe.wtfDiscover the universe of Fake Commons in Pepe.wtf
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Haha, that's awesome!
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Oh yeah, I like that card because I remember that story. lol
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@al_fernandz grail
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I guess it's the ~100 issue pepes. They're still very accessible. Financially it's probably better to go for the series 1 and maybe 2 ones, but there are particular ones spread out that just are more popular.
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- 11 January 2025 (42 messages)
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I still have trouble accepting that PEPECASH has a market cap similar to XCP........
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pepecash should have marketcap of pepe erc20 , it deserves it more than everything else
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we should do something for pepecash
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list on coingecko could be a start
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pepe erc20 is 7.5bn lol
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696,161,192 is the supply, probably most is lost forever 😆 why pepecash isnt listed anywhere? we could start to list it somewhere by sending requests, even listing it on tradeogre would be a nice initiative .. no?
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if XCP will be successful , Pepecash will . if pepecash will be successful , XCP will
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my 2 cents 😆
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208 btc mcap for pepecash considering this supply ..
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Define successful. Last year in January XCP was at $3.5, it's now around $13. Not too shabby!
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yeah its a huge success for XCP.. i was not talking about XCP directly but about pepecash. its absurd to see pepecash at 20m mcap and pepe erc20 at 7bn
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we should create a erc20 bridge for pepecash and xcp too
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to attract more users
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most dont know to trigger a dispenser, but they know how to use metamask and uniswap :D
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Very true! I think the Chrome extension wallet and atomic swaps are a great step in the right direction. But these things take time, and a ton of work to implement correctly
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pepe erc20 is nothing compared to real pepecash on Btc/XCP.. we need to change that and work together as community
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yeah its a good step i agree
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a bridge would be so easy to create imho
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Huge if true! I am not technical enough to comment
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right? @teysol .. send pepecash to X multisig wallet , lock pepecash on xcp. deploy a contract from the other side on eth and its done.. contract will have mint and burn function
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im not technical too , but i saw many coins doing that
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"wrapped pepecash" :D
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eheheheh
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with the upcoming bullrun and the importance of pepe in crypto world , which moment is better than this?
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people needs to know history , pepecash is a piece of history , built on the OG chain
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its not matter of $$$$$ , its matter of principle , pepecash and xcp are a huge piece of history and deserve to be in the right place
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i cant see a memecoin at 3bn and xcp and pepecash at 25-30m mcap 😆 my eyes will bleed to see such things.. hope to see our ecosystem to shine again ❤️
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When you say it's easy, do you mean anyone could do it? Or are there some prerequisites that must be satisfied?
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Not for lack of trying but pepecash anywhere else has been a scam multiple times even when good ideas were put forward. Only place I’d touch it again is native.
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"anyone", someone with a technical basis
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There’s wrapped pepecash right now on emblem
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Came to share in case anyone missed this https://x.com/wasthatawolf/status/1877811321325920619?s=46&J Loone Brickens 🧱 (@wasthatawolf) on X
* a new pepe market has entered the chat * The Big Board is back at Rare Pepe Wallet! Powered by the Counterparty DEX, the Big Board helps connect not only Rare Pepe traders but also connoisseurs of Danks, Fakes, Wojaks, Bitcorn and more.
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There used to be a thriving pepecash market for rare pepes, it dwarfed xcp as the main trading pair for a time
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People Are Paying Thousands Of Dollars To Own Pictures Of Pepe The Frog
Can the blockchain turn Pepe the Frog into modern art?
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That nakamoto price chart in the article 😳
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Was fun gathering all the data for the writer, I thought it came out really well
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It’s all based on counterparty dex data using XCP and pepecash prices from cmc
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Yeah, native is the way! We've been given the gift of a lifetime by being able to collect Pepecash etc at gen low prices and people want to rush to give that up?! These assets being found and prized by collectors is inevitable but luckily for those of us here now will take time... I'm looking a decade out. All I'm worried about is collecting as much as I can while I have the opportunity. 😃
- 12 January 2025 (226 messages)
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Still some underpriced gems floating around out there.
Scored some big DORAEMON yesterday:
https://horizon.market/explorer/assets/DORAEMON?marketsTab=orders&mode=buy
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Thanks for answering, but there are still a few other large dispensers available, so I don't really understand why you would choose to sell under floor today, instead of $30-50+ in a few months! (IMHO) it's quite clear that's where we are headed, as buying pressure continues to grow. But of course I understand you might have other reasons, and are perfectly free to do so anyway (the beauty of free markets)
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How about launching a pepecash memecoin on Solana? Have you all seen M3M3 created by the Meteora Team? It's sad that our community is so tiny after all these years.
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I created my rare pepe during season three and have been around since the beginning of the project.
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A least with a memecoin on Solana we may be able to get a fresh new set of eyeballs on the project.
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There already is, "ucit"
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The token supply is way to large for that token to compete in my opinion.
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And it doesn't seem to have anything to do with pepecash from what I can see.
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No one on Sol wants “old” coins they want to get in on the next new thing, as @carsonated mentioned this idea of moving pepecash has been tried and failed several times
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While it has its roots in the community you’re right it has nothing to do with Pepecash. Think of it as more akin to someone dropping $WTHD via pumpfun. (Maybe 67 people would get the joke and 1200 people would try to because they might profit from it)
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Trickster (TKS) - Pump
Beware the wizardry of the #token trickster. Who does not #disclose the facts surrounding his magic!!! Speed Strength & Power will never replace the value of knowledge. #memechronicles #faktok #tzero all lead to assured currencies...UCc1-308
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FUD on PEPECASH is Xtra Top Kek
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This has been discussed for at least the past year, Televault was supposed to do it, some other teams as well. Basically bridging a few hundred million PEPECASH to eth mainnet or solana. It would probably function like a memecoin, the narrative would be about the deep lore, and the pump would bring exposure to the Rare Pepe collection as well as XCP at large. Let's make it happen sers!
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Nobody fudding pepecash and you know that. The statements are about the pitfalls of trying to chase attention with it on flavor of the week chains (but you know that)
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good way to bring attention to pepecash is to just start using PEPECASH on the dex to trade for rare pepes
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Under the floor? Isn’t that just the new floor?
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That’s the basement
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Wasn’t this already done?
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Wait an order book counters the assumption of an order line?
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I have a vague recollection but maybe I’m wrong
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It was done. They collateralized the supply with 30k pepecash and scammed everyone
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Need >50m for it to be feasible imo
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That was when people said let’s chase ETH interest, now that people are on SOL that’s being thrown around. By mid spring someone will propose doing it on XRP
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Once it's on eth or sol it can go elsewhere right
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Needs to be 1:1 whatever they do but I don’t like the chase idea
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i agree with you, this will definitely work as big marketing idea for both pepecash and XCP.
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its not even difficult for a techie guy to do that
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i would bridge on eth rather than sol
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It will not do what you think it will regarding marketing
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Nobody will care about where it came from
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I don't think so there are no good tools from what I can see that makes trading anything easy for web2 people on Counterparty. There is no way to find fair market value for any of the assets.
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Unless there are clear guide and or video tutorials that I am not aware of but I haven't seen anything.
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PEPECASH does not to be marketed, wrapped, bridged, leveraged, or anything else.
It has been used as a currency since 2016 by the Counterparty community. And that is where it should stay.
Stop trying to make everything a profit motivator.
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i love you
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profit is the last thing i thought about cause i'm holding some few hundred bucks lol 😆
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i just thought to glory!
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pepecash deserves glory ..
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ILY more
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like @hodlencoinfield said, the best way is to either buy or make listings in pepecash on the dex so there is velocity and people see it, then more people come, and more people try to procure pepecash to secure pepes
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(and other assets)
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Pepe.wtf and RPW.wtf wallet is about a clear as guide as can be. I think the main issue is just distribution, there’s still lots of hoarders that randomly just dump on the market and kill any rally. Until that occurs will be tough to move to next level.
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Yeah it's been a while since the last PUTIN or DARKPILLPEPE hit the DEX
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Those were some wild times!
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was it the first open community art collection on 'blockchain'?
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There's now three ways to trade. Dex, rugspensers, and atomic swaps (requires new network effect)
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staking is a scam
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Four, emblem vaults of course
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in addition to opensea, x2y2 etc
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why?
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maybe!
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because staking is a trick to get you to take your tokens out of circulation so I can dump on you while you get yield
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its masternodes
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its whatever they will call it next
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Then you need 2-3 wallets on top of that
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I am aware of the site and it not clear at all.
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it doesnt secure the network, if gives me scarcity to sell into (me being people smarter than stakers)
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It shows pepes, but there's no clear instruction
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Feel free to give your NFTs and pepe cash away then
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he didn't say the lolz were free
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So how do you determine fair value. I have hundreds of NFTs any one willing to trade one for one regardless of which ones I'm willing to trade you?
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fair value is what someone is willing to pay
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I will trade one with the highest supply for one with the lowest supply sound like a deal?
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Makes no sense
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if the counterparty agrees, sure
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Does the mechanics of the marketplace not make sense to you?
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That's not how an efficient market works it a chaotic one.
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Not at all look at the spread
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If someone willingly wants to trade a renaissance painting for a dollar, and someone wants to trade a dollar for said painting, this is an efficient trade
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How so? You type a card in and it shows the bulk of all sales and where it’s listed and for what price. What else are you needing?
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if the spread isn't filled, the market must simply mature to where either the asset holder devalues their sale or the asset buyer increases their offer
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It seems you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of how markets work respectfully
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with scarce assets this spread can take longer to bridge
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The NFTs are not very liquid because the spread is too wide I'm not sure what you don't understand
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you are forgetting the time metric stated above
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nobody said they need to be liquid, some people just like owning the art more than people like offering their value to procure it
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That’s been the case with rare Pepe since 2016. Until there’s more distribution it’s just how it is unfortunately
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There's a reason for that evolve or die.
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Just put a bid up and see if someone takes it. They probably will at some pt
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People need to be willing to offer more because they like the art without the expectation that others may sell for lower after their buy
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otherwise they will not shakeout cards, see the flood of recent ufopepe sales
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Art markets are notoriously illiquid except for top 1% of pieces.
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Then a 100 issue pepe is actually just worth $30
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In some cases this is true. The art matters not just the issuance of
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I bought some 100 issuance pepes for a few hundred bucks this week, I thought it was worth what I paid
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I've bought a 1000 issuance pepe for a grand because I thought it was worth what I paid
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It’s too bad because it sounds like they poisoned the well
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they did, and burned community rep for some people too
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We're all anticipating pepes getting the recognition they deserve and their price going along with that. Are we now back to hating money in order to cope with things not ever happening?
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Community matters and after all these years the community hasn't grown much that says more about the community than the Counterparty Project itself.
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Xcp.ninja is a nice collection and card Explorer
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It has gotten a lot better at outreach, if you look at X today. Earlier there was no presence anywhere except here.
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Buys can be made using the sites "buy" button using leather, okx or unisat
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Looks a lot more modern I will have to spend some time looking through this one.
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we need big attention on the first RP + sub 50 issuances to drive speculation to ~100 issuance so others speculate on sub 1000 issuance. the first part IS happening
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It started to explode in 21 and 22 then all the new buyers got dumped on relentlessly and left a bad taste in their mouth. Will take time.
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watch what happens when a RAREPEPE sells for 1,000,000
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then people will speculate on the spread
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Who dumped on them kek
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Stamped.ninja is also operated by the same dev team. They also provide CounterParty wallet if users need those functions.
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or you can just chill with pictures you like
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to be fair, @robotlovecoffee made many video guides on YouTube, and listed them all at robotlovecoffee.io some two years ago.
Granted, the community could use more, and updated versions. But IMHO, until there is a wallet that belongs to the community, then the burden of walkthrough videos fall on the makers of private wallets or their volunteers.Robot Love CoffeeOnboardings Video for Creators and Collectors on XCP
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people that believed in the 2018-2020 deadzone and grabbed things others did not believe in within that window
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Jerks
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people deserve the ability to sell what they believed in when others did not
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Often the plan to pump or bags turns out to mean issuing a new project, with a new dankwojakpizzacash token which we are expected to absorb. This had been the only way to make money here in the dark years.
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Yeah i doubt anyone over did it
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weird how trad markets have undersold and overbought metrics, as if its normal
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dont they know they arent supposed to sell
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up only infinity
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a 'smart' person that zoomed out just grabbed a sub 500 issuance for $1300 that the cheapest dispenser is $3300 because they see the spread
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Update it and please rename the site. I can never remember it and it's completely unrelated to the subject.
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thats presumptious af
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Unsophisticated artists and holders from the past. And then just some whales that wanted to cash out like Buddha. He really put the brakes on things when he woke up. I’ll give an example. I sold a vintage pep for half bitcoin $30k I think and a month later he sold same card for a few thousand bucks. Imagine being the buyer of mine and seeing that.
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there is nothing you can do to stop things like this
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Has anyone here actually created a rare pepe?
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BREITBARTPEP n00b
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thats what free markets do
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nobody can stop a bitcoin transaction (and subsequently an xcp tx)
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nope and i kick myself all the time for having not done it when I could have
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Groypauction and twoweekspepe, here
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twoweekspepe is a CLASSIC
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but i retort with, did anyone here create a penisium card
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touche
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I helped create one in 2017 yes
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I’m not mad at it and agree was just giving your boy LB an explanation.
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PEPEPUFF is the one I created
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TOBIASPEPE. We wanted to make a series of them but never materialized
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I should have made a lower supply but there is only 10% in circulation
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also a classic
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The burning
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FEW KNOW HOW LEGENDARY TOBIASPEPE IS
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If you atomic swap them people will be reluctant to take them out of utxo
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I've holding this long no point on dumping now
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*I've been
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distribute!
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why?
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The secret grail card! Powers given due to his never nudeness qualities.
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Rare Pepe is one of the many HEARTS of Counterparty - "bitcoins killer app"
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If you put 1000 bitrock in a utxo, you can only swap those 1000 bitrock as a chunk. You can divide them, but then you have to send them out of the utxo.
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but why would you be reluctant to detach them? you don’t want to pay a transaction fee?
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Yeah I suppose
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i’ve just detached the swaps i’ve completed 🤷 doesn’t bother me
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I will be updating the videos but wanted to wait till thing become more stable and I find time to re make them. The concepts are the same and my dms are open on X for those that have questions
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Yeah youbreally ripped them off. Not suprised
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I should have just DCA'd further into YAMATOPEPE in 2017 with pep and rode off into the sunset when we became the first decentralized autonomous cult. But alas, make plans and god laughs.
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Still plenty of opportunity to get in on the ground floor for JOEMATO... https://tokenscan.io/asset/JOEMATO
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There's joemato and tomato iirc, forget which collection (danks/fakes)
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Look at the history of the card retard. That was less than the previous three sales by quite a bit. Why are you like the way you are.
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I'm not that good with photoshop
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Tomatopepe
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he is like a trex, if you dont move he cant see you
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Kek you put it all back it didn't cha
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i did
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oh not me but ofc
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I don't know about staking but you can swap it for TURON!!!
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The only rarepepe bull run was damian giving you guys his cardano gains a few years ago
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That's the smartest thing anyone has ever said in these rooms. Staking is a Total value lock scam! Hat's off to whomever typed that.
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Yeah 100x - 1000x gains for most cards from their original value in 2016-17 isn’t a bull run. You seem a bit special tbh.
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This page belongs to you then. I'll ask Al to update it: https://pepe.wtf/artists/1CQKa5mpuqYpxufk9MTjMMZSUd5BezVT2wArtists | Pepe.wtf
Discover the universe of Rare Pepes
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no, but I can tell you all about it :)
https://medium.com/@subterranean/the-penisium-project-3a032d56c431The Penisium ProjectAs the 2017 Initial Coin Offerings (ICO) boom on Ethereum continued to grow out of control a Bitcoin Talk Forum post announced a project…
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Less arguing, more learning the history
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I’ve got some rares so I do hope this project has a resurgence
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Only some? Are you new 😂
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/mod
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Gud card! I'm holding 1. No dispensers? How will people know about Joe?
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i was there but always nice to reflect. My Proof-of-LOL still haunts me because they didn't understand my joke
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but a resurgence would be great, many cards are hard to impossible to procure
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This isn’t king Dog’s room. We can speak freely here.
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Name calling is frowned upon
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/mod this guy needs a time out
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No personal attacks please, each of you attacked each other. No one wants to see you arguing, you can do it over DM.
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I don’t think you’re going to get much sympathy here. You sure like to dish it out but can’t take it back. You’re soft.
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I’m done vector
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Won’t engage anymore
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I didn't attack anyone
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Not an attack or name calling
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shoot, where does me calling you a trex fall?
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real ones can see movement, but movie ones struggle with it so at worst I called you something akin to an marvel villain
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but you got a beautiful smile
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It would be great to have an order book with both buy and sell orders (although I have heard it may be difficult/impossible for technical reasons).
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the dex has buy and sell orders
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and the dex is why things like pepecash or bitcorn have an important value to remain native as they aren't bitcoin offers/asks
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problem is stablecoins are not on counterparty
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and btc tx's require more footwork by those involved in making the trade
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if we view pepecash as more valuable, denominating in it is a good move
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yes, hopefully it’s possible at some point to do buy orders with atomic swaps but there are definitely serious technical challenges and it may not be possible
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Binding assets to utxos and atomic swaps opens up a catalog of applications. In this sense still early, new theory maybe applied to CounterParty assets
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Explore the Ordinal space, and you'll get insight on the new features that platforms and wallets may adopt
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yes all the tooling with atomic swaps is still very early, and adoption is still ramping up. More adoption, more resources for further atomic swap feature development
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Buy orders with atomic swaps are easier than sell orders.
It’s sighash all, the inputs are the payment and the asset, the outputs are a dust utxo, thé purchase price and the buyers change. The buyer signs the tx, if the asset owner likes it, they sign the PSBt and submit it.
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A serious barrier IMO is that atomic swaps only work with Segwit addresses. Most of us oldtimers still have our assets in legacy addresses and moving everything can be costly. I still did it for a subset of my assets, to try things out.
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how is the btc custodied?
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It's locked into the PSBT as far as I understand. Can only be spent if the PSBT gets the 2nd signature. Sounds like a beautiful solution!
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how is it locked?
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Just the same way as the 10k sat output is "locked" when creating a sell order? "Locked" is probably not the proper term BTW.
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yes i think the issue is, do you need a utxo or set of utxos with the exact amount your buy order is for? if any of utxos is moved, counterparty is not checking every single bitcoin transaction, so how is it guaranteed that the btc you promised is available to spend at the time the seller signs the other half
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It's not your fault that your comedy stylings were and are ahead of their time. And, agreed. Indel has iron hands, and then the dev cards because he rarely ever engages on Twitter and is not on Telegram (AFAIK)
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Awesome
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Yes, makes sense... I think it's a known limitation of PSBT-based bids
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Still have this jggold for sale. Foe half the floor price
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For*
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Also *jpgold 😂
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Are you telling me there could have been a Busterpepe, Jobpepe, georgemichaelpepe!!!
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You create the entire buy Tx with the utxo you want and if the seller is interested they can sign it too and broadcast
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If you spend those outputs before that happens then the seller has no reason to sign because those inputs were already spent
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That’s why sighash all is used
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That was the plan. The guy that I worked with is from England I think. He was in the Pepe chat a few years ago but haven’t seen him since unfortunately.
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I remember talking to him too. He posted these in-progress images
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The text is mine from the Wiki
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I never noticed it says "A.D. Series, Card #1"
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I would pay good money for a complete set
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I remember him sending thy first card with Pepe on it and we debated on putting the actual Tobias head or not
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I think you guys made the right choice going with green tobias
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His never nudeness provides him powers from Kek
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right, reading more, so the inputs to sighash_all would be the utxos and their locations. so if the location changes, then the psbt is no longer valid. in that case, then it's more the issue of keeping stale psbt listings off of a marketplace, since moving bitcoin utxos wouldn't generate a counterparty tx the way that moving or detaching a utxo-attached counterparty asset would. obviously there might be other issues/specifics i don't know about also
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That’s no different than sell orders tho
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Once the asset moves that psbt can’t be used to create a valid Tx
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it is different because you can take off stale listings with an counterparty event-based method with sell listings
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yeah it’s not about rugging, your statements are correct
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Thanks
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C. The assets being sold are not escrowed anywhere. Until a trade is done, they never leave the seller's wallet
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yes
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Yes that part is different