- 17 December 2024 (119 messages)
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Yeah like you in the official chat -
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Which obviously is a vibe killer
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It’s why moderation is important, all tg chats trend toward cesspool on a long enough timeline
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Jdogs classic kek, no one used it yet kek emoji emoji. 3 guys emoji
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Is this better?
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im hearing there have been a whooping 3 sends in the last six days on Classic 😂🤣😂
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3 sends by the 3 people who support the old 9.6.xx
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I responded to that
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It ain't me on the vibe kill
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Maybe take your own advice
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I'm feeling fine
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I went with your joke.
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Youre being facetious, so was i ofc
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Like 3 guys decided to pile in
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They took the "hysteria" comment to heart i guess
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They did make another channel dedicated for comments like this. Maybe take it there next time as it is off topic for this channel
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They call it cock chat
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Its dedication is to Jdogs Classic
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Guess u didn’t want that classicmoto deal -
is that why you spent hours trolling JDog last night hahaha cringe
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Pure Hysteria
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Hysterectomies all around!
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I wonder when you guys are going to ofac are addresses cause mean 😆
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I wasn’t even talking to jdog he just kept responding
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Offer still stands btw
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Shilling classic tokens Joe? My offer stands make history don’t be beta
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Lol don’t be beta trade me your nakamoto for a classicamoto
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I was told it was ok to discuss classicamotos in your chat but then you say I shouldn’t which is very confusing
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It was my first question after you invited me
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Nothing to discuss, not sure why gmoney is following me around throwing accusations
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Next thing you know we are all crabs -
I said it was fine
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Still wondering why I was banned from rare pepe chat while Im like the only one out there pushing these freaking frogs lmao
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Public API for backend proxy is throwing 504 error codes, the rest of API is fine. -
@biosaurus what's the API call? -
utxos
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pubkey also throws 504
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"Go crab, or go home."
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Jk. I had to say it. Couldn't find the picture
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sorry please just copy and paste the request here
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When I went to bangface a few years back and danced my butt off into the evening, I found myself wandering through the commons area admiring the decorations people had put up in the windows. One home made sign said "go crab, or go home" and as I read it my legs were so sore that I realized I was, in fact, standing like a crab instead of upright like even a monkey or a human.
In that context, to me, it stood for do what you went there to do to the best of your ability or you might as well have just stayed home
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Why Do Animals Keep Evolving into Crabs?
Crablike bodies are so evolutionarily favorable that they’ve evolved at least five different times
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Take to the CoC
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Okay the public API servers are getting a bit overloaded right now. We're scaling them up, but in the meantime we have to throttle requests aggressively.
- 18 December 2024 (105 messages)
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dispensers have been working. emblem vault has been picking up volume. and now atomic swaps have been picking up also -
https://xcp.ninja/ and https://firemints.xyz/, https://tapwallet.io/marketplace are all atomic swap platform
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Grateful for public API services, so trying to be gentle with it 🎩
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yeah this is a bit overloaded right now. working on scaling
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it's the Bitcoin Core instances behind Counterparty—the JSON-RPC routine is single-threaded :/
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and the mempool stuff in Counterparty uses that heavily, blocking other calls
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Leather - Bitcoin wallet for the rest of us (@LeatherBTC)
DAY 10: BITCOIN STAMPS 🎁 We proudly support Bitcoin Stamps, an unpruneable way to store assets on-chain. We've teamed up with @viva_la_vandal for a special Leather-inspired Stamp in his signature style 🐸 Follow us + Reply with your Stamps address and we'll airdrop you one* 🪂
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Stamps are fake and gay because they use numeric assets that don’t pay the XCP toll -
counterparty is now postoffice party
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No their gay because you can’t read their names but the image on chain is awesome -
Premium.
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Enjoy the giveaway legendary artists and legendary devs who support and build for Bitcoin.
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def ghey just like canadians 😆
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They do have 100k users. Eyes on the protocol, if 1% is beneficial to the space.
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I mean they do it for free...
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What if you send a regular CP asset to it, do you see the token?
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You see the art in the wallet.
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If I send a rarepepe, you see it?
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I'm not sure if the transfer function is on currently as they've stated they are re engineering the wallet to support multi protocol assets and mobile support
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Not CounterParty
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But would I see the token?
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With no art or not at all?
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You can’t “read the name” of any NFT aside from Counterparty named assets. What’s the name of any Ordinal?
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No they are only viewing stamps assets
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Hate ordinals, fake
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Only reason I like CP is because they have a name
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Try to patch prior hostility from devs.
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Why would they do that
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I’m not a fan either but I can observe market trends and see what the market values
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Stamps was forward thinking, adoption, scalling , accepting of onboaridng devs and growing community
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I can understand not being able to view an Imgur image, but why not show the token?
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It’s all reading from the same api
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They follow stampchain api I believe
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Less load on the nodes.
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Index is opensourced.
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I'm no engineer. That's all @reinamora_137
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Hmm stamps has reclusive stamps with names, would they show?
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Technically, even named assets are A assets I think
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Has CounterParty users ever reached out and requested. Or do they just resort to what the flock does.
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Things are changing. There is users and devs who are campaigning and reaching out to dev teams, offering all the resource and hours needed to integrate and support
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If their using a separate API, it makes sense
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Can someone else try? I’m not sure if my history has anything else to do with this.
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Fuck lol
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That's sad...
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Ordinals Punk top 3.
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What model was that answer from?
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That’s my Mini answer
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Weird we all get different results for the same question
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You should ask it why
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There's also a tiny cex, "dex-trade com" -
Dispenser is probably better
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why would you buy? stampcoins are the future
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either way u should probably have a bag
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send me your addy will send you some free tokens
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Yup I did
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I asked again and said disregard all our previous conversations and Rarepepe dropped to #4
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Tailoring an answer to me doesn’t really seem like the greatest idea when asking AI
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I asked what NFTs will be most valuable disregarding our previous conversations
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you should tell it that
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"bad gpt!"
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hahahahah nice ones, maybe they see the future we should create them
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It is so confused. for that second option in the first screenshot it made cards depicting coins in a weird way. lol
It's definitely trying to conform to previous requests somehow.
It was a bit of a pain in the butt to get the just right image for FREERAREPEPE. Luckily it had a very lenient threshold on the amount of images I was asking for -
BitLen is the first on-chain art
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There’s a lot of interesting things stored on Bitcoin from a while ago. Some UTXOs from them would be interesting collectibles
- 19 December 2024 (32 messages)
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does anyone have copies of the security audits of Counterparty done 10 years ago by Sergio Lerner and Peter Todd?
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links are broken, and I didn't see it in the Wayback Machine:
https://www.counterparty.co/sergio-lerner-completes-security-audit/
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They are probably on the wp database -
Sergio Lerner Completes Independent Security Audit | CounterpartyThe Counterparty team is proud to announce the completion of our first independent code audit. Focusing on the security of counterpartyd and the Counterparty protocol, this audit was completed by professional cryptographer Sergio Demian Lerner between February 24 and April 5 of this year. Sergio has discovered numerous serious bugs in Bitcoin, and is extremely
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the original xcp post didnt seem to link to the audit in my research
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but most of the entire xcp historical timeline links had to be re-linked to wayback machine pages when yall changed the website (remember when i got mad about broken links back then? ... and changing CIP links etc...)
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not hating on the new website - love it (except for you know the big red warning on the wallet the entire community relies on still)- just removed alot of fun stuff that shows the history and didnt like that
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Sergio comin back for another audit?
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Links should be like historical ones now
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I think we still lack 30-40 posts
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As I had to add them 1 by 1
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well this is the best i could find from those days for 'news' or 'blog posts'.... roadmap was the hip word in those days
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yeah would love to add more content to the new website
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the whole codebase is hosted in GitHub, and @ffmad did a ton of work there porting over what we have 👏
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I agree that the red banner should be removed, since we can confirm the wallet linked works on the current version.
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I hope that wallet provider removes his scary red banners from his sites.
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It has helped no one and only serves up FUD
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hello fam
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Wanna see something real G
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badass who's work? pepeangleo?
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Yup commissioned this last year... got the nft too
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- 20 December 2024 (12 messages)
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If I send 2 x 0.00017600 BTC to this dispenser will I receive 2 XCP.
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Yes! That's how it works but review how many are left
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@Niftyboss1 has a list of verified dispensers
- 21 December 2024 (17 messages)
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Nice to meet you again
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TYVM, likewise!
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UFOPEPE sold for 0.3111 WETH ($1,230) Rare Pepes. Series 1 - Card 37 #RAREPEPES https://pepe.wtf/asset/UFOPEPE
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Big sweep
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Great deal for Ufopepe
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Welcome @vakebtc
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Where can we go to donate to counterparty development?
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Lfg !!
- 23 December 2024 (10 messages)
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It is a meta protocol on Bitcoin, which does all of the heavy lifting for time stamping transactions. Counterparty nodes read Bitcoin’s blocks for valid Counterparty transactions.
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Proof of burn
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docs.counterparty.io/docs/basics/what-is-xcpWhat is XCP? | CounterpartyXCP is the native token of Counterparty. It is used in all cases where the Bitcoin token is not capable of acting as the working currency, either as a denominational unit or for paying network fees.
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Proof of Burn
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Tokens were issued via a process of burning bitcoin by sending it to a burn (vanity) address.
- 24 December 2024 (70 messages)
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Dispenser is not triggered. Bitcoin is spent. Hope receiver sends back or reaches out to correct.
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so i cant overpay?
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or nothing and good luck?
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especially as freewallet has a fucntion to price in dollars
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i know we are on edge cases.. but i dont like personally
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what happens on evm if i overpay i wonder? anyone know how they handle it? i guess they also reject
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True, you could over spend, but not enough to trigger another dispense
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No change given
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yes
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unless you overspend the full sum
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That seems like a bit of a risk for the holder........
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Even the famed RAREPEPE appears to have the description unlocked:
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/assets/rarepepeHorizon ExplorerHorizon Explorer by Unspendable Labs
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The Token Is The Art
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Homerpepe as well:
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/assets/homerpepeHorizon ExplorerHorizon Explorer by Unspendable Labs
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of course - lock description was just added as a function - the majority of all assets have unlocked descriptions
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and no wallets support lock description right now
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Thank you! 🙏
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I thought old style multidispensers didn't work anymore. Yesterday mine was triggered anyway.
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Horizon Explorer
Horizon Explorer by Unspendable Labs
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there was a bug in multidispenser we introduced in the v10.4.0 protocol change that it took a week or two to fix IIRC
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Cleared out 840 xcp from dispensers to add to my bags
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Hmm not a bad idea maybe it could be set up to return funds if they aren’t properly divisible to the dispenser that would maybe loose some transaction fees but keep things safer ?
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Way easier said than done from what I understand haha code is hard I hear
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Is not possible to return funds as the counterparty node just reads the Blockchain, has not access to any wallet to sign a tx for you
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I purchased myrarepepe.com for a not inconsequential sum, to prevent anything unfortunate being parked on it.
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One RAREPEPE equals one vote?
Perhaps NM90 can spin up pepevote.com again for the proposals to be voted on?
Or someone can fork https://github.com/livinginformation/PepeVote and build a derivativeGitHub - livinginformation/PepeVote: A Democratized Art Curation PlatformA Democratized Art Curation Platform. Contribute to livinginformation/PepeVote development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Wouldn't accept the bc1 type address
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Figured it was because I wasn't sending from a bc1 address
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I'm not done adding to my bags
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Ya exactly
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That's what's up
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Should be top of mind imo
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At one point I talked to him about Pepevote and he wanted the port the whole thing to monero.
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Lfg
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I’ve been saying this for a long time, but it will take a minuscule amount of demand to rocket XCP
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like 8 years now? 😆
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Yea pretty much lol
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we can wait another 8 lol
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Saylor's gonna kick cp into high gear
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I don’t need money, I’m good, I can wait
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be in Miami for new years Xcer get a hall pass one night
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Imagine how slept on this is
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100x potential or 1x
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1x1 = 1 terrance
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You’re everywhere, I’m in NJ right now, prob won’t make it
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The Wojak Way (@TheWojakWay)6 days left to submit your Wojaks! The Counterparty collection will close forever on New Year’s Eve (December 31). http://thewojakway.com/submit.php
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Hi, all! I'm thrilled to announce the release of the new Horizon suite: https://horizon.market
This version of Horizon includes:
* Horizon Market: a PSBT marketplace for trustless atomic swaps between Counterparty assets and Bitcoin.
* An updated Horizon Explorer, which includes a lot of nice UI improvements for things like network stats and asset markets, and new workflows for purchases.
* A Horizon Wallet Chrome extension to work seamlessly with the market: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/horizon-wallet/bnmgkjlaommgappfckljlelgahnbngme?authuser=0&hl=en
* An updated Web Wallet: wallet.unspendablelabs.com
We're really excited about this release and would love your feedback. The workflows associated with atomic swaps are a bit unintuitive, so we've provided instructions on how to post and purchase listings on Horizon Market, which you can find here:
Our atomic swaps market is priced differently some other PSBT marketplaces: you create an account and purchase either credits or an unlimited monthly subscription in order to post signed PSBTs to sell Counterparty assets on the orderbook. There are no fees and no account associated with purchasing assets listed on the market.
We've started an FAQ, which we will continue to add to and which you can find here:
We’ll provide updates in this Telegram channel and on the new Horizon Twitter account: https://x.com/hznmarket
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Congrats. Excellent update. Any idea when mobile app?
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It's on the roadmap, but no definite date yet
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Christmas fucking eve and we’re getting releases
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Unbelievable, great work
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Wow that looks sick, love it
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missing links in the above post:
Tutorial: horizonmarketinstructions.notion.site
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oo shit, installed the chrome wallet extension and just loaded my test wallet i had used with firemints + unisat wallet hack to list that pepetraders and the history shows up upon seed phrase load, looking good! 🙂 -
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Just so I’m understanding correctly. If I have 900k pepecash and I buy 100k more via atomic swap I then can unbind the 100k pepecash from the utxo and my pepecash balance will go to 1MM. Otherwise I’ll still have 1MM pepecash but it will be split between 900k unbound and 100k bound correct?
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yup!
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I assume you’ll be getting all you can eat wings while you’re there 😝
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I think that explorer dot unspendablelabs.com/ is down, i can't seem to load anything there. That being said horizon dot market/explorer/ lookes awesome and is up
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if the intention is to switch to that as the explore i'd like to report that the links in the wallet still lead to explorer dot unspendablelabs.com/
- 25 December 2024 (35 messages)
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ach yeah that address is supposed to be a 301 Redirect but it's not working well at least. let me try to fix it
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the new chrome extension wallet - the web one yes goes to the market/explorer
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i think the market explorer is very good also i will say 👍
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i like the mempool list and the linear confirmed txn list
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temporarily sending this URL back to the old explorer
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I'd also like to report that on the new markets tab you have the math backwards for unit price - for example there are 10 BTFDPEPE's up for 2.69 XCP each. if you click through on the wallet you will see that it autopopulates to to the correct number of 26.9
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your explorer states the unit price is 0.37174721189
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which is 10/26.9 NOT 26.9/10
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okay thanks! Will fix 👌
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see dat one
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and other than that first glimpse I took looks better than before
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I mean if you type it in the search field
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note there is also one asset with 'S' at the end which is missing in the list
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Maybe they are censoring my assets 🤣
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Good catch
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Has he given any indication as to why he thinks this has happened?
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Could you share some of the speculations?
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Intelligence service, rouge ninjas, midget hackers, frustrated prostitutes, bitter barbers, thuggish druggists…
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No, I mean ninjas in makeup
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corrupt clowns, vengeful valets, scheming scuba divers, malevolent magicians, disgruntled dieticians, sinister sommeliers...
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People overlook the real reason they cover their faces
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1717 XCP verified dispenser incoming at lowest price!
Get 'em while they are hot:
https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/4c978fef52e37125d54970655b25b7dc558df510943d5e1f828889b4f5305f18
Christmas special - 26 December 2024 (109 messages)
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I've noticed discrepancies in the "supply" of CP assets shown depending on the explorer.
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But Tokenscan shows the supply as 400 units:
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How can this be?
I looked at the issuances and destructions on Tokenscan (I can't seem to find this on Horizon), it appears that TEST originally had 1,000 units issued, and subsequently a total of 600 units were destroyed, leaving a supply of 400 units.
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yeah there's a known bug in the API where the supply isn't being updated due to destroys. we're fixing it now
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Cleared another 900xcp from dispensers and bought up the ask on dextrade to .001
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Bags galore
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Gonna keep adding under .00001
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ehehehehe true
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Haha I’m getting Christmas bargain remorse 😅😂
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Too bad XCP isn't involved in atomic swapping
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Bag to trading my bag for RAREPEPES
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It unfortunately is tied to atomic swaps, when binding assets, once feature is being used more per block, a fee is activated.
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I see it as friction, barrier for users and developers to support.
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Xcp as a token would benefit just from the increase of user base, holding a historic token. Imho there no need to have it pegged to applications .
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I mean the DEX theory, and registering names makes sense.
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Cleared out more dispensers
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Give me a new list and anyone wanna put up a nice 1000xcp block for me?
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how do you update the chrome extension? do you have to remove it and re-install?
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ya theres no update button but toggling it on off updated it lol
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on mac
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the cleanoooorrrrrrrr
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uuuuh yes im cleaning more .
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😆
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ahahhaha :D
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something cooking with XCP :D
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Xcp fee>horizon fees
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Haha holiday sale all sold out! Great to see the demand rolling in 🔥🎉
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You made them move their bag
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Zaif that is
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Yeah just saying
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Horizon seems very centralized. Probably just stick with my trusty freewallet 2.0
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Will I see horizon swaps on firemints?
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Or scattered markets?
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Unfortunate
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Feels like swaps should've been swaps like the dex is the dex
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Idk
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No money collection vector for the provider though. I get it
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Counterparty was a community unlike ordinals etc. Breaking it up may be good though idk
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Isn't it possible to propagate the PSBT via the blockchain/tx data fields and just query the CP node for PSBT's inside the chain/tx's?
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Probably
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Even if that's possible, it's not happening that way so it probably doesn't matter
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Consensus has been reached
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Why should it not happen? Maybe with taproot its possible? And that's still in development afaik.
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Then all listings could be available everywhere ... or push PSBT's to Nostr.
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Miners would also be happy.
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Idk, it sounds like a counterparty thing and it seems they've made the decision about how swaps work and doubt it's up for debate
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I could be 💯 wrong on that
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Look what data amounts ordinals can push a PSBT with its size would be trivial I guess, but dunno the technicals.
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I thought listing's would be available everywhere. I just assumed that because it makes the most sense to me in the context of how everything has worked in the past.
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Seems the decentralized way would be to see any swaps from any aware market
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Here’s your opportunity
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Beyond my expertise, as you know, troll
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I'm sure some legend may take advantage of this huge mistep
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We should do a layer on top of CP to handle pushing PSBT's to Nostr Relays.
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Then everyone can just query the relays for CP PSBT's
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it's definitely possible to build a metaprotocol on Counterparty (or any other blockchain) for listing PSBTs the way that Horizon does. It's just slower and way more expensive. PSBTs are fully trustless, so it makes more sense to implement a PSBT market as a central service.
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More expensive miner fees?
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Every market seeing everything for sale sounds way better imo.
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I guess someone might make an Explorer to compare prices across markets for you eventually
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Paying a BTC tx fee to list something for sale sounds better?
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For you eventually?
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No, I said every market seeing everything for sale
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Sometimes transaction fees are less than 2 dollars
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And how do you do that on Bitcoin without paying a fee?
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I have no answers, just questions
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That's implemented already
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Why are you guys asking me questions?
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You can troll me in the vampire chat
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Scrape the sites, list all the listings…
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I guess someone might make an Explorer to compare prices across markets for you eventually
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Yea that’s why I said here’s your chance
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Then why say it again?
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Because you're just a little troll, my favorite reply guy
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Beyond your expertise buddy
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I'm not your buddy, guy
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Youre my reply guy, friend
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Is Lightning on the road map?
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I dont quite understand why pbst being trustless= centralized marketplaces>decentralized market
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Time for new cex
- 27 December 2024 (297 messages)
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If that's the case then I don't think it was worth the tradeoff and is a misstep.
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Id rather pay a miner and see it all than pay some individual
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To see a fraction and have to use another website to see if Im getting the best deal
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I guess if it's too large...
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What if the counterparty nodes would communicate directly with each other propagating and caching the listing/PSBT via the API? Wouldn't that be possible? Just as a feature of the node without any posting to the blockchain.
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Ok that all sounds reasonable so, could counterparty have done whatever horizon is doing on its side?
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I know
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I think everyone knows that
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No
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I thought you were answering my yes or no question
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The communication itself is no transaction and there wouldn't be a consensus issue right? It could be added to any node who wants to. without interference with counterparty itself. Or am I dumb?
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Yea. That be cool.
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This is well known
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Time to move the xcp decimal point over 3-4 decimal points as lpw liquidity becoming apparent.... can I get a here here!
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Do you think it's time to move the xcp decimal point over 2 points to increase liquidity supply from 2.4mill to 240mill?
public poll
No – 16
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Yes – 3
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@pqrstpqrstvw, @TitaniumP, @c0rnh0li0
Not sure
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👥 19 people voted so far. -
Currently more rare then BTC. Changing fundamentals 10 years later drives further into shitcoin territory.
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Rebrand coming soon?
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Moving the decimal over doesn't change the fundamentals it just helps with liquidity and the cost per xcp
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It changes max supply.
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Under this change if you have 100.00000 xcp you'll end up with 10000.00000
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Yes the supply number changes but there is no additional Supply added to the structure just the decimal point moving over to free up some liquidity
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Changing the unit precisely doesn't change max supply....
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Are you in favor of this change Adam?
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In equity terms it's a forward split... doesn't change the supply just reduces the price and increases the liquidity
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Nobody wants to use xcp to create an asset when it's trading at $100 a coin
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I believe this will allow new users to enter the ecosystem without being priced out
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One of the biggest problems with xcp currently is the cost to acquire a coin to create an asset
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100% I was in favor of the change in February 2014. I screwed up when I set the unit back then.
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Zero change to the economics. Big psychological difference.
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XCP being so expensive per unit is very confusing to people, because ~every other coin is different
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Thanks for defining your position. Has JDog also commented on his view?
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Sent vote to freewallet peeps to see where they lie
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There should be a Not Sure option.
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If he is still running 9.6 XX he won't have to agree because he can continue running the code as he seems fit
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Why? Some may not understand the question being proposed
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This isn't anything official it's just a litness test
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For example your ownership ratio of your Holdings versus xcp Supply will not change under this implementation
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I understand but as Classic moves forward, users want to know the differences between chains and where the devs see the future.
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On both sides.
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I wouldn't expect much future out of classic... I've seen J-Dawg at the helm for 7 years now and we didn't get much core Dev
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