- 13 January 2025 (43 messages)
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- 14 January 2025 (16 messages)
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Im actually not sure what happens if you spend multiple asset bound utxos at once, I assume they all transfer to the first output
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I think he checks in at least a few times a week
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Good question! But in any case, I think it's unsafe to manipulate those asset-bound utxos "manually" (using a non-Counterparty wallet for instance).
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The tooling around atomic swaps is still very new and I'm sure it will get more powerful and intuitive as it matures
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Are the owners of these XCP dispensers around? Trying to verify if they're safe.
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/a7176ae34a3add508b2c26a070ab94501d669a4b567d609c8723caeb95b51c20 -- 0.00011888 -- 1493 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/d0b1e7dcbac8f88ea720d4f802c7e3508b4cdd15f1943150536179b3295d2ba3 -- 0.00012680 -- 996 XCP -
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makes sense, an interesting method to packaging assets into a single utxo
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Hmmm… nice way to sell an entire collection.
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Much better than getting payment and dming keys while you hope they don’t ship out the holdings
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would be nice to just have a sweep to attach method, using the method above would be time consuming and pricey
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sweep to attach would be incredible... Could easily fill a fresh addy with xcp stuff ready to sell and attach em all
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gonna be chatting with the Emblem Vault team shortly about TIMELINEXCP and Counterparty HNFT research
https://x.com/EmblemVault/status/1878951976907792634
then right after that speaking with the legendary Tatiana Moroz about her history with Counterparty
https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1878980296428736613
come check it out!Emblem Vault (@EmblemVault) on X🐸𝐓𝐨𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐫𝐨𝐰 Counterparty Timeline 2014-2024 w @davesta_xcp • Early days of $XCP • Beginning of onchain culture • & much more! See you in the morning! 🫡 https://t.co/5a0zQIM0yU
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Updated - 827 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/ded3909ac0834c297d269216c5b83c9e7bdc89b95c9c4c34461a4113d128a1f4 -- 0.00011500 -- 49 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/beeceb18d4c79babd4914aeb5af5b75a44a0f52222fd0155ff298d071f261ca8 -- 0.00012700 -- 245 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 23 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
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going to be talking Counterparty HNFT history tomorrow with Rare Scrilla - mark it on the calendar!
https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1879285552354308526dave stoker (@davesta_xcp) on Xtune in to learn about some of the earliest art on Bitcoin (@CounterpartyXCP) with one of the most prolific artists in the space @ScrillaVentura https://t.co/VJzzCpmtsj
- 15 January 2025 (19 messages)
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Hi! At the request of the Counterparty community, we've just launched support for Counterpart in NFT.Storage. What's the best way to get the word out to your community and get it added to your docs? Thanks!
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💥SALES OPEN💥 TIMELINEXCP - A Counterparty Thesis by @davesta_xcp 🔸 18-min documentary on @CounterpartyXCP first 5 years 🔸 Interactive timeline chronicling a decade of innovation 🔸 Art by @Le__Hues 🔸 Exclusive physical rewards for top collectors 🔗
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🎉 Announcing Counterparty Core v10.9.0 🎉
This release represents a major technical milestone in the development of Counterparty Core: Counterparty no longer has AddrIndexRs as an external dependency. Originally, AddrIndexRs was used for transaction construction, and at the end of 2023 it was accidentally turned into a consensus-critical dependency (causing a number of subsequent consensus breaks and reliability issues). Now the only external dependency for a Counterparty node is Bitcoin itself. As a consequence, the node storage requirements have effectively decreased from ~300 GB to ~30 GB, dramatically decreasing the cost of node operation. Nodes should also be more reliable and performant generally.
This upgrade notably includes support for testnet4, since testnet3 is no longer usable for testing purposes. A public server is available at <https://testnet4.counterparty.io:44000>.
Finally, this upgrade includes a completely rewritten transaction composition module in preparation for future testing work. The new composer API is fully backwards-compatible, but it now includes additional parameters which make constructing a transaction much more natural.
This upgrade does not include a protocol change and is not mandatory. After upgrading you can simply delete AddrIndexRs and shrink your disk.
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He just posted the update
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been doing some deep dive history Twitter spaces with pioneers in the HNFT space (such as Tatiana Moroz, Rare Scrilla, Adam B. Levine... and more)
catch up on the conversations and tune in for the next interviews (with people like Nathan, Jdog, JP Janssen, Theo Goodman, Nicolas Sierro and more) every day this week:
https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1879652695856017408dave stoker (@davesta_xcp) on Xafter almost 2 years of #HNFT research, there is always room to learn many stories have yet to be told and the only way is to learn together tune in to hear from the pioneers of #NFT's and the Bitcoin space from those early years ⬇️
- 16 January 2025 (7 messages)
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Hey NB, hope all is well.
New verified dispenser for XCP:
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- 17 January 2025 (2 messages)
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hope to see you guys next week at thecounterparty.com :)
- 18 January 2025 (8 messages)
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Updated - 984 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/4e89ceaed2cf17818456e6ceb3dc03bc97e8b491f69f29f1d37d05f51676a22c -- 0.00011700 -- 128 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/ceec1372acf5814e2243772d3c1b06649fbfef9978af0ccd2f4024795458e9a4 -- 0.00011990 -- 333 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 13 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
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https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/milestonesMilestones - CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreCounterparty Protocol Reference Implementation. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core development by creating an account on GitHub.
- 19 January 2025 (10 messages)
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Any can help me?
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Gm to the counterparty family
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Gm. Do I have to have an account on horizon to purchase xcp or can I just send btc from freewallet?
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you can buy XCP from trusted dispenser you can see Nifyboss has some linked above. Can do that from Freewallet or Horizon
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- 20 January 2025 (37 messages)
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we've optimized the calls to bitcoin core for the next release https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2919Reduce Frequency of Calls to Bitcoin Core · Issue #2919 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
This may help with RPC server overload. 2025-01-09T16:11:31Z [rpc] ThreadRPCServer method=getblockcount user=rpc 2025-01-09T16:11:32Z [rpc] ThreadRPCServer method=getblockchaininfo user=rpc 2025-01...
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will u be at the counterparty this friday?
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I JUST REALIZED I HAVE NEVER DONE A SPACES EVER HAHA. I WAS SUPPOSED TO WITH EMBLEM VAULT ALONGSIDE DARKY AND SOMEONE ELSE BUT I GOT STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHILE HELPING AS A CARETAKER SO I WAS TRYING TO CALL IN ON THE SPACES FROM MY IPAD & IT NEVER WORKED. HAHA SO ARE SPACES COOL? OR IS THE HYPE HYPE
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Gen X rules!! 🍾
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What's the name of the token? It looks epic.
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I want one....
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BHAGAVADBTC
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FUNNY I STARTED MAKING A SAYLOR PEPE
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I DON’T THINK I FINISHED IT
- 21 January 2025 (6 messages)
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Updated - 1166 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f74a1ddec875d2b6dc8052abf63e82e8fe8a2d2d21310c2f3aff3323863670af -- 0.00010840 -- 428 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 215 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 13 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- Current atomic swaps listings: https://horizon.market
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- 22 January 2025 (10 messages)
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195 likes, 58 comments. Check out AmericanNewsMan’s video.
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Ruh roh:
https://cryptoslate.com/trump-reportedly-talking-to-ripple-with-interest-in-xrp-usdc-solana-for-us-national-reserve/Trump reportedly talking to Ripple with interest in XRP, USDC, Solana for US national reserveAmerican-origin digital assets like XRP under consideration as Trump eyes broadening proposed national crypto reserve.
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Hey! Is anyone from the team around to have a chat with?
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If you issue scamtokens that's 80% owned by the issuer, you're going to favor xrp.
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- 23 January 2025 (11 messages)
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What would you say is the benefit of running a bitcoin node?
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I'm always reminded of this meme...
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Hello, can someone help me? In the freewallet can you exchange xcp for btc in exchange? or is not enabled
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Updated - 1117 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/db7f07a509a556d3fb20ef424d5192f159bf54a9e624dda3e9422fc7e8bb880a -- 0.00009500 -- 38 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f74a1ddec875d2b6dc8052abf63e82e8fe8a2d2d21310c2f3aff3323863670af -- 0.00010840 -- 341 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 215 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/70704e5108e9330d15e7ed251ffbcdd6504f617090f01a3f2ca67c7c91e113e9 -- 0.00016000 -- 13 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Current atomic swaps listings: https://horizon.market
- OTC: 1000 XCP currently available @ 11000 sat 🔥 - DM for info -
Pushing with love Counterparty into the academic field for eternity: https://x.com/elmalandr0/status/1882519843942908298?t=sNSgxKdBNEKKxtAfj7ODLA&s=19Maël Rolland (@elmalandr0) on X
Hello everyone! 📙 On the occasion of my thesis defense, I produced a limited edition tokenized on Bitcoin 📙. Here's the story of this double materialization, physical and digital, which redoubles my research. 🧵
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As you read, i may have a last edition reserved for auction if some interest arise... If so, i was thinking to add in the paper wallet those two rare pepe too. Your interest is noted fro fren!
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let me know when you will place for auction :D its so cool
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i love it
- 24 January 2025 (49 messages)
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The addition of the two Rare Pepes would be a big draw. You might inquire with Scarce City. The Bitcoin conference in Las Vegas is coming up soon and they did a large art auction in Nashville last year.
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🎉 Announcing Counterparty Core v10.9.1 🎉
This is a small release that includes numerous bug and stability fixes, as well as a major refactor of the codebase in the name of improving testability. In particular, there was a bug in the Bitcoin fee calculation algorithm released as part of v10.9.0 which causes detach and move transactions composed with the API to have a higher fee than they should. h/t @krostue for catching it!
This release is not a protocol change and upgrading is not mandatory, but it is highly recommended. NOTE:
* If you are running a version lower than v10.9.0, you must first update to v10.9.0 and only then install v10.9.1.
* If you are running a testnet4 node, you need to rollback to block 64492 manually before starting the server process
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Dumb question as I haven’t been following too closely: can multiple assets be attached to a single UTXO in order to sell an entire collection in a single atomic swap?
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Probably markets can build up reputation. And people weigh their trust based on the reputation.
- 25 January 2025 (20 messages)
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You send me 1 btc I send u 2btc = minimum human IQ test 🤣
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OpenSource, public and onchain orders book is a way
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Related discussion in the Horizon chat a couple of weeks ago:
https://t.me/HorizonXCP/3586Cornholio the Great 🧻 in Horizon MarketThis is very important to note, especially considering Counterparty’s binding unbinding capabilities. What would happen if I listed 1 PEPCASH for 69420 sats, but no one buys it. Later, I unbind it and bind a RAREPEPE to the same UTXO. Now anyone with that information could complete that trade. Unless the same UTXO cannot be reused to bind tokens to? I don’t think that’s the case though.
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Some cheap XCP on dispensers today:
(753 XCP available on verified dispensers)
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/eebd9f5d2d91060a0a1499a89055b4372f0a6dbfb6fcabff6141f738df009525 -- 0.00009480 -- 232 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/db7f07a509a556d3fb20ef424d5192f159bf54a9e624dda3e9422fc7e8bb880a -- 0.00009500 -- 24 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/cf76cf066c63846fc87df2968dc13b69ef5a50cd1408664687012b2f566ca9fb -- 0.00009700 -- 11 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f74a1ddec875d2b6dc8052abf63e82e8fe8a2d2d21310c2f3aff3323863670af -- 0.00010840 -- 341 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 145 XCP
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Tatiana Moroz (QueenTatiana) (@queentatiana) on X
Join us live for the CounterParty livestreamed from Miami https://t.co/E7cheeL9fv
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/counterpartyCounterparty price today, XCP to USD live price, marketcap and chart | CoinMarketCapThe live Counterparty price today is $7.06 USD with a 24-hour trading volume of $527.83 USD. We update our XCP to USD price in real-time.
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NOT IF YOU’RE A RAVER LIKE RARE SCRILLA
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FUCKXRP Asset Info - XCP.io
View details for Counterparty asset FUCKXRP
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Glorious card, Bap is my nickname
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You were costin alamariu all along?
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- 26 January 2025 (44 messages)
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👀👆🏼 GM what is thi xcp .io site looks nice didnt try connect wallet just want to ask here first and also seems it doesnt read assetic or arweave way tokenixed assets missing https://www.xcp.io/collect/ooakosimo
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w.i.p CounterParty Explorer by Droplister
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I've connected before gives a wallet overview.
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oh okay thank you for the info
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AHh looks like it reads the assetic arveave tokens if u type the asset name in the address bar but only for gifs not mp4 like scentsmith https://www.xcp.io/asset/TROJANSPAM
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ooh how do i add it to the ooakosimo asset page
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BREAKING: Eric Trump has reportedly confirmed that some U.S.-based crypto projects will soon benefit from zero capital gains tax, while non-U.S.-based projects will face a 30% capital gains tax, per The Street:
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Updated - 1183 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/f6d09a760049ab018f7258d9334ab4c03f6257ca4316dff08cbfadc8a12e43ac -- 0.00009500 -- 25 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/56f833e7f986c41b7f93d28cd9aabd3916df9de088dc8cb5c568065e81d8d8bd -- 0.00009960 -- 503 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/10d22040a67fcbd26242ea0cd8e9dbd526c2d1443bc18e72b09c27726ca2782e -- 0.00011100 -- 145 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/6d225cd0e36b26ff72484d9b695ac56a4bb52e438e4fd2b186ba3cfc91e63358 -- 0.00016000 -- 120 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e35e6f6d5627d3dd1388c49f9c6a093ebff03b8e1a75a8f73c404103c93c3e27 -- 0.00016480 -- 390 XCP
- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Current atomic swaps listings: https://horizon.market
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http://kasaneate.starfree.jp/mc/
OG work from Japan.
The directory is now invisible, so it's an old directory, but you can see it well.
#memorychain #oasisminingメモチェンカード図鑑(Book of Orbs - Memorychain)
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Just talked with @realDonaldTrump and thanked him for keeping his promises to our industry and to Ross. I asked him if he wanted to share a message with the Bitcoin community… He said he’s with us 100%, we’re going to send Bitcoin to much greater heights, and we’re going to
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- 27 January 2025 (58 messages)
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You know anyone selling these?
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Haven’t seen much on sale from this collection. Only this: https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/bf4b36151b2302ad9f2f4bebada60989cfff1d35ec1437ed5ebd6b1e1db64068 and it’s pricy
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does anyone actually believe the story out of China for their AI? I looked at the app and it looks sketchy. All the app content is in chinese. Would never download to my phone. It's also censored just like our AI's, so don't see what the big deal is. They claim to be able to do all of this with 95% less budget and compute power but seems suspect. Maybe someone here can explain to why it's such a big deal and that we should believe anything at face value out of china.
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I would say the -500B in NVDA valuation and it being opensource legitimize it
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Biggest Market Loss In History: Nvidia Stock Sheds Nearly $600 Billion As DeepSeek Shakes AI Darling
Nvidia lost more market value Monday than the total valuations of American stalwarts UnitedHealth, Costco and Bank of America.
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Biggest wipe out in market "in history"
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I would tend to agree but so many knee jerk reactions on day 1 it's hard to say
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i think its pretty strighforward..
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maybe to you but it's not to me and prob most people and I also know China routinely lies about these sort of things
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*open source
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I realize they say it's open source yet the AI still censors itself over questions related to items the CCP doesn't like
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One thing is the development another thing is their implementation/product
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open ai and invid got rugged.. bascially
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also, trump didnt buy 500billion of btc at the exact top... so sad
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but overall what I'm saying (and could also be driven by unfunded fear) if there were doubts to be real NVDA would have clear those doubts before letting its company go -15%
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AI is so incredibly bad. The best we can hope for is that it won't be quite as bad as the worst fears.
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from a strategic standpoint, what does China gain by allowing this to be released? It seems counterintuitive to their mode of governance to release something that allows anyone to spin up their own AI
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Rug US.
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so far crushing their competence on day one
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Prove it can be done. They don't hold superiority.
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copyright is theft..
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larping?
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Not only NVDA, NVDA falling likely dragging the rest of US risk/digital stocks with it, I don't say this was the motivation but definitely a result
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Apple holding strong.
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Dethroned nvidia
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Never know what apple cooking.
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The next iphone (exactly the same as the previous one, just different name)
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But I mean their phone is...
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I don't use chatgpt and occasionally use grok because i'm on X all the time but I don't find it that useful tbh. I know its good for making dumb pics or asking school related questions but I don't find myself ever using it much
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especially since our AI's also censor themselves and say ridiculous things sometimes related to pretty mundane questions. I just don't buy the hype
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It won't be useful for many sectors, but in places like software chatGPT/claude give developers steroids, and beyond chats like GPT there are already quite incredible ai platforms that are able to create quite impressive quality code (even full working products) from prompts
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$bald etf
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definitely there's hype, but also the most disruptive thing for society we are gonna see this decade (except if we start nuking countries, that will be more disruptive)
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Still yet to witness Tesla a.i. and those humanoid bots plugged into the network. Cloud computing and storage on another level.
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Closed source. Private. Those will be interesting
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when counterparty AI?
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Live action role playing
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I know - I was kidding. was saying that in reference to the copyright comment
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If they released this, what are they not showing
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since it's open source, where's all the data it's sucking up going to?
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I trust China more than OpenAI 😂
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Same applies to Google, Meta or Amazon 😹
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yeah I don't trust the wokesters at openai at all but China is likely the worse of two evils. They could build comprehensive profiles on everyone and use it for god knows what. atleast in the US there's some regulation restraints and people that aren't working for authoritarian govts.
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what could China do with that information that Google is not doing already?
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*Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) on X
$NVDA - NVIDIA SAYS DEEPSEEK IS ``EXCELLENT AI ADVANCEMENT''
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@honkhonnk
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Singularity approaching
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DHH (@dhh) on X
It's all good and well that you can run DeepSeek R1 locally, but you still won't escape its CCP programming constraints. This is straight out of Robocop! Wouldn't install this model on your new Tesla humanoid power droid in case of a conflict over Taiwan!
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- 28 January 2025 (35 messages)
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What do you mean by this?
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This is all so insane, my mind is blown
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Asimovs three laws of robotics, except with deepseek it’s near impossible to tell what those laws are
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OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) on X
Breaking: The CEO of Scale Al said that DeepSeek reportedly has up to 50,000 Nvidia H100s
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If this is true. It basically nullifies all this hype no?
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Evan (@StockMKTNewz) on X
The CEO of Scale AI said his understanding is that Deepseek has ~50,000 Nvidia H100s which they can’t talk about
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Given that he just received $1B in funding from Nvidia and a few other tech giants, he has a big incentive to spread unverifiable rumors.
If the Deepseek story is real, he may find the valuation of his company and its ability to seek funding is severely damaged.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-startup-scale-ai-raises-101052017.htmlScale AI valued at $14 billion in Nvidia, Amazon-backed funding roundTop tech companies are racing to build AI into their products and services. Founded in 2016, Scale AI provides vast amounts of accurately labeled data, which is pivotal for training sophisticated tools like OpenAI's ChatGPT. The San Francisco, California-based company's funding round is the latest in a series of AI megadeals.
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I guess we’ll see in the coming weeks. I just am a little surprised most take anything out of China at face value without verifying first.
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Given all the lies/manipulation from both mainstream and alt-media, as well as politicians and business leaders in most countries, if it something that is important to me I will generally look into it for myself.
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Geopolitics & Empire
JUST IN: Jim Cramer says "you should own Bitcoin, Bitcoin is a great thing to have in your portfolio." @WatcherGuru
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How do you validate whether they’re lying about their budget of 5 million?
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If it were important for me to dig into it I would, but at the moment, it's not. Feel free to do your own research.
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For now, it's enough for me to know that AI is the latest industry to get shaken up by competition from China.
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I know this is OT so last one from me on this:
Is (Chinese) Software Suddenly Eating The World?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chinese-software-suddenly-eating-world
China's DeepSeek Bombshell Rocks Trump's $500BN AI Boondoggle
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chinas-deepseek-bombshell-rocks-trumps-500bn-ai-boondoggle
China's DeepSeek AI Moves The Capital Of Tech From Palo Alto To Hangzhou
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chinas-deepseek-ai-moves-capital-tech-palo-alto-hangzhou
From one of the ZeroHedge articles: Here’s more from political analyst Arnaud Bertrand in a post on X:
Most people probably don’t realize how bad the news (about) China’s Deepseek is for OpenAI. They’ve come up with a model that matches and even exceeds OpenAI’s latest model o1 on various benchmarks, and they’re charging just 3% of the price. It’s essentially as if someone had released a mobile on par with the iPhone but was selling it for $30 instead of $1000. It’s this dramatic.
What’s more, they’re releasing it open-source so you even have the option – which OpenAI doesn’t offer – of not using their API at all and running the model for “free” yourself.
If you’re an OpenAI customer today you’re obviously going to start asking yourself some questions, like “wait, why exactly should I be paying 30X more?”. This is pretty transformational stuff, it fundamentally challenges the economics of the market….
So basically, it looks like the game has changed. All thanks to a Chinese company that just demonstrated how U.S. tech restrictions can backfire spectacularly – by forcing them to build more efficient solutions that they’re now sharing with the world at 3% of OpenAI’s prices. As the saying goes, sometimes pressure creates diamonds. @RnaudBertrandIs (Chinese) Software Suddenly Eating The World?I'm not sure that "software will eat the world," but it could consume the stock market bubble in a single gulp...
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Yeah I get all of that but again- It’s China. How many times have they cried wolf about so many things that turn out not to be true. I don’t even use the glorified search engines that are heavily censored so my opinion is probably not important. Just thought I would see what everyone thought
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Did you buy the top?
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so much drama for this deepseek lol
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orchestrated drama , people are suffering mass psycosis/hysteria
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I haven’t bought anything. I don’t even use gpt. I don’t own nvidia. Unless it’s in my 401k maybe. Why is it so unfathomable that I don’t trust China after they routinely BS everyone? I was just asking for others opinions.
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thanks for listening !!! we had so much fun :)
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Too vad you had to change venue, the one you got looked like a cleaning closet
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ok that’s rude af, what was the last event you hosted?
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it’s an insane amount of work, risk, and money
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Joined.
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It feels so damn good to be invested in Bitcoin
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I recommend it
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I guess I didn't think before I spoke. Apologies.
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- 29 January 2025 (11 messages)
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Catch my talk with Power HODL at The Counterparty at the 8:17:17 mark on PEPE and tokenzation
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1rmxPoyrbanJNTatiana Moroz (QueenTatiana)The Counterparty Conference - Day 2
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so awesome having you with us, thank you so much!
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Still in progress, but this is a preview of the most notable sales in the past 2 months
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Counterparty markets: Notable High-Value Sales (60 days)
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I'm actually thinking of launching a (paid) regular bulletin with all sorts of counterparty market info and insights
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Line actually go up
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- 30 January 2025 (106 messages)
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Is what I told you lol 😆
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@XJA77 okay please file an issue with logs from the node. this issue is supposed to have been fixed here, but it's possible there's another edge case we missed. https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2925 and https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/pull/2943/filesFollow Process Crash after Blockchain Reorganization · Issue #2925 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
This happened with both pods: > kubectl get pods NAME READY STATUS RESTARTS AGE bitcoin-0 1/1 Running 0 12h counterparty-0 0/1 Running 0 14h counterparty-1 0/1 Running 0 14h electrs-0 1/1 Runnin...
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Series 2 of "The Counterpart" just dropped:
https://www.thecounterp.art/series2
Pretty cool concept and art.LinkThe CounterpART - Directory of Classic Digital Art on Counterparty / Bitcoin
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this is better to ask in the horizon support room (https://t.me/HorizonXCP)
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easyasset.art is 404. Likely to have a huge impact on Counterparty assets resolving
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NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS
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You hope lol
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Not at all. It’s a tragedy. But it does underscore how brittle these off-chain links are.
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A lot of people didn’t because… they all used FreeWallet and early in the arc of EA the urls for arweave were longer than the commonly used wallet would allow for description at that time (was later adjusted)
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I see I just said what was already said
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Words like "tragedy"
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people keep forgetting the art is the token
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No I mean arweave itself. It could just go away
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Maybe there is a better way...
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Based on what? The tokenomics of their shitcoin?
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You should be able to come up with something, a way to stamp the jpeg or something
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That way...
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argree but outside of stamps (which is limited is size) it's still the best solution
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shameless plugin my article
https://mirror.xyz/shaame.eth/88wezV7dTLnCT6ZFOp1IL8sJzM366s44Uh3gvY3loOUThe ORB Rating SystemNFTs are a new medium, and we are barely scratching the surface of their power to provide humanity with a decentralized, immutable ledger. NFTs allow the inscription of creations such as art and other assets in the legacy of humanity. Some have compared early NFTs to cave paintings, as they bear witness to the footsteps of human creativity. While we are still laying the groundwork for future generations, preserving this patrimony, protecting collectors from fraud, and allowing for co-creativity is of utmost importance.
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Stamps have come a long way!
https://stamped.ninja/stamp/A4187130250059315000Stamp: A4187130250059315000, by LogikMost detailed realtime stamp database, one click purchase, sales history, current dispensers, holders, friendly src-721 navigation and more.
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trash
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You’re using Kb for both ordinals and stamps. Not accurate. I think around 60 KB for Stamps but practically infinite when using recursion
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@blockjack8 might have more accurate numbers
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Right. OLGA
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keep in mind that arweave nodes dont have to store all data to operate, so the token could survive but the data may not
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easyasset.art WHOIS Domain Name Lookup - who.is
Find information on any domain name or website. Large database of whois information, RDAP, DNS, domain names, name servers, IPs, and tools for searching and monitoring domain names.
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amazing how using something for a proof of concept to present at an nft conference became a defacto method of attaching images to assets
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If you care about the permanence and security of your art, you stamp it. Otherwise, you compromise by exploring other storage methods and ultimately risk losing it sooner or later.
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wrong
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And why is it wrong?
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If you want to test the resilience of bitcoin, perhaps make a bunch of stamps that are critical of China etc
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and then be loud about it
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might gib attention to stamps/ cp too
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Great idea. What is stopping you from doing it?
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dont
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care enough
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and i don't have a stamps bag
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making a series of stamps like this would costs several thousand $, and i don't have the connections with influencers to make noise about it
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You guys act like US has never silenced or censored anything critical of it.
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not my intention, of course they do
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China does. But so does America.
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Lol how did you calculate it? This cost me 10$ to stamp
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990 bytes tho..
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Great work of art for its time! But how do you think it reflects the permanent and decentralized nature of Bitcoin Stamps?
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Guys by the way some news on our side:
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What has been stamped cannot be unstamped. Can you say the same thing for the oil paintings?
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Bitcoin Stamps have their limitations and costs due to their blockchain nature, but that’s exactly what makes them a unique form of art and medium.
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There’s nothing unique about them except spam on L1
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All material things break down. If there's a big war, art may be found in the rubble, but the internet itself as we know it may completely transformed.
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Systems, constitutions, etc always rely on the people that are the custodians.
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The future is uncertain, but for now, this is the best solution we have for decentralized digital permanence.
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How can Stamps be considered spam when they make up 0.000% of the overall Bitcoin data?
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no problems when i’ve submitted transactions
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Is it a pipe?
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- 31 January 2025 (255 messages)
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Right click save
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I personally download the images of all my assets so I never have to worry about it
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Because if the image isn’t on-chain, you have to trust someone else to store it.
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Then I need to trust you
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Ok now we both have it. Stamp it, and you’ll have all that proof of work securing it for you—because you paid with your sats for the security and permanence that Bitcoin provides.
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Future will tell how far the technology evolves and which use cases it brings.
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are we trying to solve an "artwork" problem or Wall St tyranny problem? Some will never understand it
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I always assumed we were solving the thumb twiddling problem
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bitcoin is a boredom buster
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I’m just pointing out some of the advantages that Stamps offer. It’s a decentralised and open protocol—you don’t have to fully embrace it like I do if you don’t want to.
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I hold older tokens and have a deep appreciation for art in general. I really enjoyed this time with you, sers!
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i did a few sub 250 stamps to experiment, it was fun
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All counterparty tokens are secured by proof of work, there is no double spend problem with image data
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Writing it on chain simply gives more redundancy unless utxo accumulators advance to the point where most node runners aren’t storing the individual utxo data but rather a proof to validate utxos in future blocks
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Here's my take: that's an engineer's answer. It's meaningless when viewed through the prism of art. It's important for the art to be onchain because that's a strong narrative that resonates with the market. If we want to go down the efficiency path of engineering, we probably end-up with no NFTs at all. "Why does the art need to be onchain?" isn't much different than "Why does the art token need to be on a blockchain?" There are more efficient means of trading.
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It also tends to be foolish to argue with what the market wants, thinking you know better.
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Honestly, that's giving me too much credit.
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at least me and Duncan agree on something lol
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WHATS WRONG WITH “the utility is the art”
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WHICH STAMPS?
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I NEVER GET BORED BC I SPEND ALL MY TIME TRYING TO BRUTE FORCE BIP39 ON BITCOIN WALLETS
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Jk jk jk
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It resonates with me. I don’t think it’s a problem because eventually it will be too expensive to create stamps in mass quantity.
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109 is an example
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depending on who you ask it will eventually be too expensive to do traditional cp assets as well. It's available now tho...
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The market wants memecoins on solana, it doesn’t want stamps or nfts with art offchain
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100% that is definitely what the market is saying right now.