- 01 December 2024 (1 messages)
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Catchy - 02 December 2024 (6 messages)
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Would it perhaps have something to do with the fact that running testnet is sucking up a bunch of CPU and disk IO.. which then causes problems for mainnet... so the simplest thing to do is to simply shut down testnet so that mainnet keeps running vs identifying the issue on testnet and fixing it?... Cuz, thats what i'm seeing on my cp 2.0 nodes... testnet spins out of control and causes mainnet parsing to lag considerably.... but then again, feel free to ignore me pointing out things that I see on my nodes, and am confirming on other nodes (api.counterparty.io)... prolly nothing again "just one node" ... heh... back to lurking... will see how long it takes for CP 2.0 api to bring testnet up again... guessing prolly not until another release.... kinda hard to test without testnet 🤷️️️️️️
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test udder tings
- 09 December 2024 (104 messages)
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Here you go, some basic documentation, last update Dec 1st
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is that a fairytail ?
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If you really want to use Counterparty Classic, this is the only wallet implementation that I know of that is currently running it:
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I'm not using it but the information should be in Settings->Preferences by default
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this doesn't have anything to do with development discussion. its viewable on other explorers.
sorry you're having a bad time, i suggest you go outside and get some fresh air -
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Stack, Why are you bothered about classic, or frw? you are a obviously publicly in favour of 2.0, and horizon! but in private you acknowlage that 2.0 has/had major issues, losing user funds, things not working correctly, addresses with incorrect balances, you say don't attack users yet you are one of the most toxic users out there, if anyone says anything while you rant and make threats! -
U want a reason to talk more smack, while using threatening language to users
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I don't care, if we can talk civilised I will listen, when you threaten to make users ass bleed, I'm not listening to you anymore
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Counterwallet classic is still being worked on, hence the link not working yet... However, had you scrolled down to "FreeWallet Classic", you could have easily clicked a link that took you to freewallet.io/classic ..... Sorry your so upset Stack 🤷️️️️️️.... At least here we can see your comments and feedback, as we could in the main CP channel (you were removed, but your comments were not deleted).... Vs what happens in the "decentralized counterparty 2.0" channel where not only your banned, all your feedback is removed 🤷️️️️️️
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BTW... Counterparty 2.0 is down yet again with another show-stopping bug.... Wonder how long it will take the devs to notice and issue yet another "hotfix" release...
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Would be incredible if they actually did testing... or perhaps had their test suite which is supposed to find issues like this in testing actually working and finding issues like this before it causes users more downtime
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Meanwhile... seems i'm being muted for asking questions about development guidelines and why proposals are immediately being approved by Adam and added to upcoming releases and protocol changes without any community discussions... https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2749#issuecomment-2528310035DEX Market Makers · Issue #2749 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
I had a thought recently and have been trying to think it through figured I would drop it here for discussion. Proper AMM's will require quite a bit of new logic, testing and new database table...
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Oh well... made my opinion on the centralized / confusing state of dev known once again.... will go back to lurking and waiting for another emergency hotfix to be released 🤷️️️️️️🤔️️️️️️
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Nice topic switch... but ok vector... let me educate you since you want to know... YES, replay protection activated at block 873000... at which point Counterparty classic started using the "XCP" prefix instead of "CNTRPRTY"... you can verify this by seeing that transactions that happen on the CP 2.0 ledger STOPPED happening on the Counterparty Classic ledger... However, since Counterparty classic continues to operate as dispensers always have, with a BTC payment to a dispenser address triggering a dispenser and causing a dispense... you see "dispense" transactions happening on Counterparty classic..... Since CP 2.0 changed dispensers to only trigger with the "dispense" message, which is now a counterparty specific message, CP 2.0 dispensers only trigger with this new CP 2.0 message... HOWEVER, since Counterparty Classic dispensers continue to trigger with any BTC payment to an address with a dispenser open.... and CP 2.0 "dispense" transactions include a BTC payment to a dispenser address as the second output, these BTC payments to addresses with dispensers on them trigger on Counterparty Classic.
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For someone supposedly so versed in how well CP works and whatnot, I would think that you would understand how replay protection works and I wouldn't have to explain it to ya... but, there ya go... YES, replay protection was enabled on block 873000, without any issues, no crashing bugs or hotfix releases (like CP 2.0 seems to do every week).... and YES, dispense transactions on CP 2.0 still trigger dispensers on classic... as classic triggers on normal BTC payments (any output in a tx to an address with a dispenser on it)
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LOL... if that's your take, you don't understand how "replay protection" works... the prefix has changed, interpret things however you want, things are working as expected
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What is a replay attack?
A replay attack can occur during a blockchain hard fork when no replay protection is in place.
This attack happens when a malicious party duplicates a transaction from one network, either the original or forked, onto the other network, creating identical transactions on both. -
That's just a quick Google.
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Yup, as I said before... I didn't switch ppl to using Classic in freewallet, so ppl are still using CP 2.0... almost all CP 2.0 activity is done via FreeWallet... so, had I switched the default network in freewallet to classic, that wouldn't be the story.... but, I dont feel it is right to force ppl to CP classic simply because I prefer it, so I left FreeWallet on CP 2.0, as I believe that is what most ppl would expect to use.... and i'm not about forcing my views on ppl and playing with their money 🤷️️️️️️
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Yep, that is a traditional understanding of replay protection, Counterparty is a special case since it is a METAPROTOCOL and not a blockchain, so enabling replay protection is changing the prefix.... CP classic still watches for normal BTC payments (like CP did for years before 2.0 changed this functionality) 🤷️️️️️️
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The article continues: Identifying features such as timestamps or unique Chain IDs ensures that duplicate transactions can't be submitted across networks, protecting against attacks.
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Lets stop playing semantic games.... I did what I said I would, enabled replay protection to separate the networks and ledgers... you can now march on forward with your 2.0 Platform and we can let things play out on a longer time scale 🙂
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If it happens on both...it's not really separated
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CP is a metaprotocol not a blockchain.... re-read what I just said... interpret it however you want
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I don't think replay protection is up for interpretation. This is users funds and assets
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You said they are separated
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They are not
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Tranasctions generated on CP 2.0 are not seen on Classic (different prefix)... however BTC payments ARE seen on Classic (regardless of what wallet or software generates them).... again, interpret that however you want... of course, you'll try to spin it in a negative light, but that is to be expected 🤷️️️️️️ Disengaging now.... Have a nice day... .LMK when your precious CP 2.0 network is back up again.
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I said replay protection is enabled 🤷️️️️️️
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"For example, when Bitcoin Cash forked away from the Bitcoin blockchain, its developers added a special marker (the SIGHASH_FORKID) to the new blockchain’s transactions so that Bitcoin Cash’s digital signatures would no longer be identical to Bitcoin’s signatures."
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I'm trying to find where it's ok for replay protection to allow actions to occur on both
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"Bitcoin Cash enabled two-way replay protection by adding a special marker (the SIGHASH_FORID) to transactions. Transactions with the marker are valid on the Bitcoin Cash but not Bitcoin. Transactions without the marker are valid on Bitcoin, but not Bitcoin Cash."
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again... those are blockchains... Counterparty is a METAPROTOCOL... not comparing apples and apples... but, you know this 🤷️️️️️️
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The theory of closing attack vectors. And protecting against malicious acts is the same
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I just read, and try to understand... You can clown me much as you want
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Theory of protecting user funds/assets from exploits such as a duplication of transactions on 2 protocols. What happens on one, should be separate from the other.
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Hard fork changes, such as atomic, prefix for Dispenser, subassets on numerics, are OBVIOUSLY different from the 2, also on your Classic version a xcp fee for numerics...those are protocol differences that obviously won't be recognized by each other....but all the other transactions is what replay protection is supposed solidify the 2 ledgers from each other
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XCP fee for numerics? lol... there is no XCP fee for numerics, dunno where you got that idea from... perhaps learn to read code, or test things for yourself before making assumptions... no XCP fee on numerics, as there is no consensus for that... as I said, I dont force changes on ppl without consensus... classic is a "community driven" version of CP, as it has been for the past 10 years... not the centralized "if adam likes it, it gets in without any discussions" version like CP 2.0.... if anything you could see things as a "bonus" to cp 2.0 users "use CP 2.0 and if you send a dispenser payment to a dispenser and a dispenser is open on classic, you get the assets on that ledger as well"... of course, that would require you guys acknowledging that classic exists and is a thing.... vs the "There is only one CP, no 2.0, no classic"..... Enough time wasted her today... l8r
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I have to say it’s a fascinating chat
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issue was caused by the new utxo "move" functionality triggering the unique constraint which stopped parsing... will verify classic is good, but believe classic is fine, as it only updates the sends table when sends happen... vs the new CP 2.0 utxo functionality which updates sends table.
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Already got Javier looking into it, thx tho
- 12 December 2024 (5 messages)
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This is a very good point: if counterwallet is fully depreciated at least there should be a recovery tool available for people in your position. I believe the best thing to do is use github to file a request so it can proceed officially
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FYI… already wrote that 4 years ago🤷🏻♂️
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GitHub - jdogresorg/counterwallet-quick-access-recovery-tool: Counterwallet Quick Access Recovery Tool
Counterwallet Quick Access Recovery Tool. Contribute to jdogresorg/counterwallet-quick-access-recovery-tool development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Maybe helpful in your cp 2.0 channel since no one over there seems to be aware of how to help a user recover their 12-word passphrase from a quick-access url🤷🏻♂️
- 13 December 2024 (1 messages)
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Crickets 🦗 lol
- 15 December 2024 (4 messages)
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What does that mean? -
The ledger forked since some actions happened on the upgrade that were not recognized on the old version. It has happened a dozen plus times in Counterparty’s history, but it was played up this time around.
Typically, when a block chain forks, you get a coin for coin match on the new chain. Plus, all tokens would be duplicated. Bitcoin Cash has all of the Counterparty tokens created prior to the 2017 fork. -
BCash’s forker forked it to make eCash, and they did a 1000-1 or some shit
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But why is it wrong to believe that all Counterparty tokens have already been doubled? If one does nothing, you have all tokens both in classic and in 2.0, right?
- 16 December 2024 (67 messages)
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Now it’s a party !!!
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Today, yeah - when I wrote that was when the new prefix was just announced and had not yet existed on chain.
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Counterpary forked at 866,000 when cp 2.0 activated… not 873,000 when replay protection was added a month later🤷🏻♂️
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Numeric subassets
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When 3.0?
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Loving all these new cp users, cp Is so bullish
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Jdog tired? He was here for years, question is when will 2.0 be tired again, probs way before jdog, and assuming that only one person would sustain any version is assuming no one else gets on board and builds or maintains any version, that is assuming quite alot
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If I was buying I'd buy off someone I appreciate, not some 2.0 stamp soy boy troll
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Sorry can't talk, cp is too bullish, too much activity with all these new users we were promised
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And I've got numeric subassets to make
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How's 2.0 price doing this bull?
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And yet you continue to speak up about non-development related issues in a development focus channel. Any chance you get to try to talk smack about classic…. It’s very bizarre behavior, if classic was the nothing burger that you and other CP 2.0 users have said, it seems like the best thing would to just be ignore it and let it fade into obscurity…. And yet entire rooms exist to talk shit on it, people are constantly joining counterparty channels to try and troll and spread misinformation, and continue to try to point fingers to me as the problem instead of looking at their own house🤷🏻♂️
I’m not going anywhere, brother, and have a long time preference…. 😊
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Then put ur classic xcp in a dispenser n sell it at a price u feel is fair🤷🏻♂️ which according to you should be almost $0.00😜
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This is verifiably false by comparing the ledgers at blocks 866,000 and 866,001. They had the same hash until block 866,002.
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lol… u can import private keys into freewallet… tho u know that. Let’s keep this channel focused on dev n not trolling… u got a whole classic hater channel dedicated to that type of nonsense👍🏻
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Ok… so 2 blocks later… fork still happened a month before 873000, when replay protection was added🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
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And cp 2.0 fork was at 866000 when cp 2.0 features activated… the ledger fork happened 2 blocks later when someone used a cp 2.0 new feature…. But as I said counterparty forked at 866000.
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No one said they would purcahse your XCP, I simply said if you want to sell, more appropriate to put it in a dispenser rather than contining to troll in this DEVELOPER focused channel... stay on topic bruh 🤷️️️️️️
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I never said what I believed the price of the token was worth... nor that I would be buying, nor should there be any expectation of me buying more XCP on either chain... I already own 26,000+ XCP (1%) of the currency on both chains. Bro... grow up, keep this chat for dev chatter and not trolling, your just wasting ppls time
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Sad
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You wanna buy some 2.0 stamps?
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Thank you for the love Vector and supporting the classic eco-system. Can you commit to selling your future xchain tokens in this manner as well?
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But will you sell your xchain tokens Vector?
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Wanna buy my numeric subassets?
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Cheap?
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System error
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I'll make some to sell u, and if u don't buy you don't believe in the great new funcunalities
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All u do is talk
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Again, thank you for creating open dispensers. But your cheap talk continues. Desperate trolling.
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Regardless of the floor, thank you for your contributions to classic.
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But loads of new cp users, thanks, been waiting for u guys to fulfil your promises
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U joined around the same time Adam came back?
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That's what I recall
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U are 2.0s shadow secretary admin
- 17 December 2024 (144 messages)
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Is it hard in FreeWallet ?
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Steal of a deal
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So why the smoke n deal on xcp ? Pretty cool of you
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Oh man that still confuses the hell out of me
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Hmm 🤔 still odd to me
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So determinpepe made before 866,000 so you saying now I have double the asset. ?
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Big red banner on every page with link to the reason🤷🏻♂️
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Buy it quick?
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Imagine calling yourself 2.0 and pretending not to be the fork, leaving chat room, ignoring majority, and not fixing simple things because of ego
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Yeah, you are saying he is selling the "current" version of XCP for 10c each? Sounds like a good deal!
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$50 each
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The "service maintainer" didn't just accidentally miss and upgrade in a timely manner as you suggest, big descepencies and lost user funds, in more ways than one due to the 2.0 fork
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Yh they updated like a month or 2 after
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Some people lost money there also due to bugs
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You just living everyday to discuss it shows that that you are saying we are right, you guys that had/faced issues or don't agree are wrong, let's create our own channels but still troll in original channels
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Why don't u spend more time trying to onboard new users as u promised, go play with your beloved 2.0 stamp chain
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And you won't buy my numeric subassets if I made them, because someone doesn't give you money that means some narrative, kek, nice try
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Why is Vector turning the XCP dev chat into a classic price channel?
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That's is false....if you read further up Jdog clearly stated that there was no consensus for fees on numerics.
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Hence why it was decided not to add fees on his own personal hobby of classic.
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What rock was u living under, all votes where in favour of fees, probs partly why 2.0 left og chat, coz can't bullshit the narrative there
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$fake votes. Not valid according to the maintainer of classic.
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as he attacked me for my lack of ability to dev and build a protocol
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its ok.... its pretty clear who is toying the narrative and playing with users emotions and assets
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No consensus in May 2023.... in December of 2023, there was consensus, right before the fork... polls n shit all indicated such 🤷️️️️️️
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Hopefully this chat gets back to DEV chatter soon and less of this trolling nonsense... you guys got a CP 2.0 channel and a J-Dog hater channel for this type of nonsense 🤷️️️️️️
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I know a few people's primary concern is how to unload all the thousands of assets that they registered by using a dictionary and Auto script. Therefore, most relevant conversation topic I can think of for this room, in the current time, is how to use the protocol itself to resell or list for sale in some dex fashion the actual ownership instead of a token -
Contributors to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
Counterparty Protocol Reference Implementation. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core development by creating an account on GitHub.
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I'm in favour of CounterParty.
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https://github.com/Counterparty-Classic/counterparty-classic-lib/graphs/contributors Same contributors to Classic.... and, Quantity != Quality... clearly, as CP 2.0 continues to have hotfixes and downtime almost weekly 🤷️️️️️️ Imagine a chat where DEV was the focus and not trolling and nonsense... its like, some ppl just cant stand that Classic exists, and have to spend all their time and efforts to try and talk shit rather than focusing their energy on building and pushing their preferred version forward 🤷️️️️️️Contributors to Counterparty-Classic/counterparty-classic-lib
Counterparty Classic Protocol Reference Implementation - Contributors to Counterparty-Classic/counterparty-classic-lib
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How can we ask the other people to be respectful and responsible while using stickers like this? It doesn't seem like in a very effective development method
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Oh I get it you're illustrating to me how you code
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would wait a few more days... just finishing up a full parse, then verifying the counterblock/counterwallet fix... then will put out an update... at that point, would be helpful to run a full node instance (I'll run one as well), and setup a counterwallet instance 🙂
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Stamp party
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Binance - Cryptocurrency Exchange for Bitcoin, Ethereum & Altcoins
Binance is the largest cryptocurrency exchange by trading volume, serving 185M+ users across 180+ countries. With over 350 listed Altcoins, it is the world’s leading crypto exchange.
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Have they listed them? Or just a little story about stamps and ordinals
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Get them to list xcp 2.0 and mention/list assets created pre ordinals then you can brag
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When will they discuss the numeric subasset technology
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It seems they are doing their due diligence. If they follow the steps of OKX, one would think, they would be studying the protocol and the Index, hiring a department to study the implementation of such system. Src20s were way more simple then the old clunk CounterParty software
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That's back end. Would be irrelevant to a market or to a user. Up to builders and designers to build ux/ui
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Doesn't even mention cp, which is how art stamps are able to trade, guess their due diligence since April is well informed 😂
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Stamps is viable . It is onchain theory.
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Being applied to CounterParty assets.
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I don't know. Maybe one day they'll surprise everyone with an article on CounterParty
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I know I tag CounterParty often, hoping one day they'll react back to that tag.
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I try to protest for CounterParty assets in general to be supported across major wallets.
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But some reason they stop at stamp assets. Something about them I don't know
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The unprunable part is the tx, any buyer of any stamp doesn't receive the original "unprunable" transaction, they receive a counterparty asset, the real technology, so if they gonna "inform" what stamps are then they should get it right no, guess no ones read it since april
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The file is saved on chain. That's the innovation side. There isn't a file host with risk of going down.
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Anyway good luck with stamp chain, postoffice coin and numeric subassets
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nothing is prunable, everything is prunable, you ding dong
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Good luck getting majic Edens support with that attitude
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Is that what u say to someone who's invested largely into what binance and the grifters are selling?
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Let alone a major wallet developer
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yes
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U gaslight them, got it 👍
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bitcoin may not exist - the network is prunable
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we are the gas, we are the light, we are the pipes, we are the city that passed the ordinances to erect the light poles, we are the people who suggested our city erect the poles, we are the people who built houses in the city, we are the people who hired people who live near the city to build the houses, we are the people who built restaurants to serve the people building houses
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there is no gaslighting, this is a city
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Stamp city
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Go lick ya self
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you are running for office and you don't even know it
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Nice chatgpt response, u are the office cum bucket, drain the swamp
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Even chatgpt can discover what technology the nft is created on in minutes, yet binance can't figure it out since April, or they just spewing the same "marketing"
- 18 December 2024 (86 messages)
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Imagine that hmm
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the technology of stamps is saving data on onchain. the assets leverage the Counterparty protocol to achieve application. continue asking the bot questions. it has interesting perspective
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decentralization = very high
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Should be pinned in here as a true explanation of what’s happening !! So all encompassing and articulate.
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this room has nothing to do with a forked experiment by 1 dev
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but i would leave that up to the admins to decide.
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who can edit this? they may add stampscan, stampverse, also tapwallet.io, Collab.land , and Scarce.city
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or does Bitcoin Stamps just group them together
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maybe that's what it is
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thats true lol its missing his own
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Looks like it's written by a good grifter
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So ur selling the onchain data (marketing) , but giving buyers something that isn't even mentioned on the binance post, a cp asset (tradable/sellable/value)
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Stamps are dead anyway, just like numeric subassets
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All in the name of bringing new users to cp
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What I can't understand is why 2.0 wouldn't do the easy things to avoid this, why they ignored the majority, ya know the people that was here before stamps
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But u wouldn't know a time before stamps lol
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I know enough
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All this technical jargon is over my head
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If you love it so much and all your stamp needs have been met, why troll the opposite view so hard?
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2.0 fumbling the bag
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Lol, says the soy boy who trolls daily
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Do u even mute people Mr admin of 2.0
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How many people run a node, everyone else's opinion doesn't matter? U sound like xcer
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The grift is the fork..
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As fren mentioned You are running for office and don't even know it...
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just waiting to hear the reasoning for classic, right now it just sounds like something some guy did out of spite
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So because u run a node ur personal Opinions matter more than others?
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Acting like u ain't a 2.0 troll
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Very valid statement.
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I've made, traded, bought assets, created projects which means I also participate, but again your ego and vision is narrow minded
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Mr nobody knew me b4 stamps
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Laters vecter con-man
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Mayby if u listened to ur own advice, stop trolling, then no one would be saying anything like we keep doing, you enjoy it tho, and can't resist yourself, claiming the narrative as gospel
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But it IS unsafe.
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Can I buy an "S"_ _ _
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We've seen with Bcash that a lot of new users were scammed in buying the wrong bitcoin. The safest way to avoid this is to alert users
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It's being marketed as the "original xcp" the "classic"
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It's 1 dev, who forked core code. And labeling as the OG protocol.
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That is very much unsafe.
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Also the same dev who openly bragging continually in multiple rooms how he owns 1% of the supply.
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Which is exactly what’s happening…. Big red message indicating 2 ledgers, different names so it’s clear what is what, and freewallet defaulting to 2.0….. true issue is you guys don’t like differing opinions n so attack classic regardless🤷🏻♂️
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Umm… no marketing or bro lying going on bro…. Simply a website that explains the fork, reasons for it, and links to spin up a node, same as counterparty.io is doing…
Again, could have very easily switched freewallet to use classic by default n driven all traffic to the classic version…. Didn’t do that, simply launched the replay protection quietly, and made it clear there were 2 levers n 2 versions…. No marketing, no hype, no pumping…. As I said, ppl having a difference of opinion and preferring a community driven version versus your centralized VC backed profit-driven version is the real thing you guys can’t stand…. As you continue to focus on me as the problem, vs listening to many users who have objected to changes made…. And u continue to push false narratives like that dispensers are unsafe… so is BTC usage on the DEX, etc…. Coulda added atomic swaps without fucking over dispenser we users…. That action, and throwing 10+ years of cips in the garbage can, and ignoring user requests to add origin functionality back for over a month is the reason classic exists… cuz the community was shit on n ignored by the current devs.
I understand most of your viewpoints, as you devs just want new features on CP, I do too…. But the centralized and destructive way stuff was added without consensus n things broken without replacements is what got us where we are now.
Rather than this being another drama n place to bicker…. Let’s try to keep it about dev chatter in here…. Plenty of other rooms for you guys to voice your hatred of me and my viewpoints🤷🏻♂️
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Sure dude.
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Keep peddling the nonsense
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I've spent 100s of hours in that room supporting users ,and troubleshooting
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@davesta as my witness asked me endless times to help document
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Keep it up.
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Literally in your title.
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Merry Christmas. Go spend time with your family instead of discrediting yourself, And picking on me, a non dev, user.
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Just because I hold no ill will towards you doesn’t mean I will let trolling and nonsense happen in the FreeWallet channel which is meant to be focused on FreeWallet specific discussions not 2.0 versus classic drama… hence why you removed.
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I have never said one peep of troling in that room. Or in BTNS. Both banned. Cool.
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Read about posh stamps?
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This is all leading to stronger Dogeparty adoption lol
- 19 December 2024 (21 messages)
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We’ve heard a lot about trying to pump XCP…..
We’ve collectively burned $220,000,000 in Bitcoin to create this community.
We sit at $17,000,000.
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Even if we pump XCP 10X, we’re still down….
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XCP has been burnt to create new tokens, which all add up to more than $220,000,000
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"The perceived loss fallacy is a cognitive bias known as the sunk cost fallacy, which is when people continue to invest resources in a losing situation because of what they've already invested. This can include time, money, or effort"
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of statistics to bolster weak arguments"
With these points as reference for my perspective I would postulate the notion that you are doing the math wrong. If you want to make equivalents in USD then you have to equate the USD value at the time the Bitcoin was burnt. I'm not sure how this affects your numbers but it is the other end of the value of perceived loss -
That’s true, but we pay in Bitcoin here, not usd
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Then maybe everything should be measured in BTC instead of USD?
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Also to think about it from another point of view: x amount of Bitcoin were burnt to create the original amount of xcp but because xcp has deflated in quantity through usage then each quantity should be valued at more BTC than was burnt
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Imho
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@ffmad Can I please get some clarity on the purpose of this chat and if it still remains a development chat for discussing development related issues... or if this is just a place to vent and ramble on about non-development related issues.... I'm fine leaving if this is no longer a development focused chat.... Only here so I can contribute to dev and bring up issues when systems are down, report what I see, etc, as I still run the tokenscan.io explorer and wallet which about 90-95% of people use.... but, if this chat is going to continue to just have no moderation policy and allow rambling on non-development related issues, not much point in being in here.... Appreciate some clarity from you on this as your the channel owner. Thank You 🙂
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I like how we keep being reminded to stay on topic. that's why I suggested one that would help everyone using the protocol
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But instead we have a reverse troll filling out butt hurt forms anytime anybody discusses anything they don't like
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It seems like the same person is complaining about drama while the community tries to move on.
It would be great if we could talk about tech in here but somebody keeps complaining about not wanting to be accountable for their own actions anywhere ever -
Grow up duncan, this is not a "held accountable for their actions" drama channel... its always been a channel for discussing dev, and yeah, I complain cuz the chatter here is not about dev.... how about you STFU and wait for @ffmad to reply rather than continuing on with your nonsense 🤷️️️️️️ I know that is an impossible request and you wont be able to resist replying with more BS... as for me, happy to wait for @ffmad to clarify if this is a dev channel and keep things focused on dev chatter, or just let rambling on nonsense continue, as I said, happy to leave if this is no longer a dev-focused chat, and only here to help report issues and dev talk, which WAS the point of this channel for many years, until recently it seems.
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Got it... reporting that the CP 2.0 network was down when no one was aware, twice, has no value. Thanks for your feedback Vector
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Same
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So how do we unload all of these ownerships that we've had for 10 years?
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There was a CIP proposal that dan was working on to do a decentralized asset ownership transfer... but, since CIPs got shitlisted, guess you'll have to bring it up with your dear leaders directly 🤷️️️️
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CIP Proposal - Decentralized Asset Sales
This thread is about a potential CIP that would allow for asset names to be bought and sold on a “decentralized marketplace”, much like how orders are matched on the “decentralized exchange”. I think this CIP could dovetail nicely with CIP 3 (discussion), but neither are dependent on each other. CIP 3 specifies that… If the asset owner holds the entire supply and the asset is not locked, then allow the owner to reset the supply (e.g. set the supply at zero) and change the divisibility status...
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Your welcome
- 20 December 2024 (77 messages)
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Try to keep your facts straight and stop blaming Adam for not fixing Counterwallet.
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Counterwallet is finally back up and working... Javier and I proposed 3 different fixes over a year ago to get counterblock parsing again, exactly 1 week after it was broken.... those 3 proposals were ignored and shit-canned by Adam and team... and counterwallet was deprecated (IMO to force ppl to their new wallet Horizon)..... Anyway, counterparty classic has counterwallet working again, and will be doing announcement soon 🙂
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IMO - Counterwallet was deprecated to force people to Freewallet where you could collect fees
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Adam did not return for a month or two later
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The Grift continues
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the prs dont lie bro... but you believe whatever you want.
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Issue with v9.61 in counterwallet+counterblock · Issue #1294 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
From @jdogresorg in a chat: """ For the past week or so counterwallet has been down because counterblock (counterwallets backend) has been choking on parsing blocks. There is a probl...
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So much time and energy focused on misinformation and hatred... I encourage you guys to get outside and touch grass. Have a nice day 🙂
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sure looks like solutions proposed, prs submitted, and adam closing the issue, then depreceating Counterwallet... again, github don't lie... but dont let facts get in the way of your "J-Dog is the problem" narrative 😛
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Decided to do something a year Later. After the fact it went down because of you
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so.... prooved what I said was true and now goalposts moved to "You shoulda fixed this earlier"... typical... I tried to, but, adam closed the prs... anyway, pointless to try and argue with you guys
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Why didn't I fix it? umm.... I submitted PRs to fix it.. and the core repo maintainers were the ones who needed to merge... but, believe what you want. l8r gater
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You broke something fix it. You were core maintainer at the time. You chose not to. This was before Adam.
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Keep blaming Adam.... that's your escape goat, supposedly all your failures are due to him..
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Ironically, Juan asked for a simple solution to roll back the dispenser delay, which you did not do.
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Don't forget he had stamps censored at the time and was actively attacking developers and community
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There was an active campaign to attack and extort users
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plus a fork then too
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He was literally attacking developers and tools to force everyone under his Umbrella
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There's no fighting lol. Classic is a grift.
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And will be called out for it
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It is not classic. It is not OG. It is not even by the Whitepaper creator
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1 dev, forking core repo, claiming it as his own, and labeling as such OG is a lie.
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What if I fork a prior version and claim it as the OG
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What if 10 other devs do so.
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I feel sorry for you. As you I rember was exited for atomic swaps and such
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You can do as you please.
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But it is labeled as a scam.
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Forking core repo, and claiming it as OG or classic or original is a lie.
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Especially doing so out of spite
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