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- 02 August 2021 (671 messages)
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sure, you would need to bridge back your weth on polygon at some point if someone buys a polygon vault
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Do less people see the polygon vaults?
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not on opensea, imo
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Ah. Thought that had been addressed
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No I’m talking about the security of polygon as a whole
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Check their docs on the multisigs and what they control. A 5/8 msig controls a lot and imo it should be more decentralized considering how much value is on there
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all bridges have risk, I agree, but the bridge 5/8 doesnt secure poly
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Also they subsidize user tx with 20% of the supply and their documentation says that user fees will offset the subsidies once they run out. In other words polygon has on boarded a lot of people who are getting used to the cheap fees meanwhile the costs will rise over time as the validators don’t get subsidized matic from the team anymore
https://docs.matic.network/docs/validate/economics/#what-is-the-incentive
Matic will be allocating 12% of its total supply of 10 billion tokens to fund the staking rewards. This is to ensure that the network is seeded well enough until transaction fees gain traction. These rewards are primarily meant to jump-start the network. While the protocol in the long run is intended to sustain itself on the basis of transaction fees. -
More than that. https://docs.matic.network/docs/faq/commit-chain-multisigs/Polygon Multisigs | Matic Network | Documentation
Build your next blockchain app on Polygon.
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I mentioned the bridge but they have multisigs controlling the staking contracts which in turn hold the MATIC securing the network. The multisig could be compromised and the contract behavior changed
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what contract though
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There’s a list on the site I linked
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right, but in regards to wraping rarepepe , can you give us a tldr of your nuclear fallout
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I’m just saying that I don’t consider polygon secure - also they have marketed the chain as cheap when their own docs say that the subsidized matic will run out and user fees will replace the missing value
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I think a lot of people here dont consider eth secure
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I will continue to mint on Ethereum due to this
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but we are willing to use it to sell things, as that is where liquidity is
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Sure but it’s objectively more secure than Polygon which is also why the fees are higher
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Just voicing my two cents on the wrapping market. I considered polygon as well but decided against it
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I would seriously ask , tldr, what is the worst case
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user A wraps RAREPEPE in poly vault
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then
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what makes Polygon insecure?
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its a shitcoin eth clone chain
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and the foundation pays for some of the fees to make it cheap
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Read the multisig page. It covers what it controls and what could be compromised. Most notably the bridge and staking contracts used for consensus
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My point is that it should be behind more signatures - 5/8 is too little for the TVL on chain
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I think for the usecase selling pepe on OS it is fine
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@DesktopCommando emblem contracts are not part of the polygon cabal controling everything right?
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Sure but people should be aware of the technical side of the chains. The cheap tx comes at a cost and I think buyers will prefer to buy in ETH
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Lol not sure why you’re trying to gaslight me into being a conspiracy theorist
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I would hope everyone here can speak with each other at a degree of level headed practicality
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I mean, sure polygon is a shitcoin chat, so what are we doing here
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person A wants to sell on OS, if you have data that buyers wont touch poly vaults because of X, then please present this data, even if it is just comments from other people besides yourself
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its another adoption - if its cheaper to mint and gas
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I don’t see any point in using polygon when all liquidity on OS is in ETH
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lots of XCP wouldnt touch emblem because of Eth - but there is another market availalbe to them
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and help the non technical people understand the threat you describe by outlining a very simple nuclear sithuation - user A wraped rarepepe, poly multisig gaslight cabal shitconers take control
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then what
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And if it feels cheap then it’s going to make the wrapped pepe feel cheap
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Pausing the chain is probly a risk
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When it comes to multisig like that
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emblem works on Eth, Poly, BSC, xDai and FTM
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You’re implying I think the polygon operators have bad intent. Anyone could attempt to compromise it with so little signatures required
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I have made both eht and poly vaults
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great, please whatever senerio you think is likely or dangrous
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I’m saying even if the polygon operators have the best intention - 5/8 signatures offers too little security
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I am giving an example, as there was not one provided
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just a choice for the seller to use a different network
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Tbf most erc contracts on eth can also be exploited with a single key
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yxes
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Sure but then a lot of them revoke ownership too or pass it on to a DAO
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opensea is a US company, congress says it is a security, we are rekt
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Polygon should pass it on to a bigger sig set
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Yeah I guess there is always that. So many Defi projects borked after someone did something with the contract.
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the same encryption is used on all of the vaults regardless of the platform its on
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Imo the bigger risk is the key holders being compelled to do something
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Yes under force/duress
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Or govt order
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ITS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE
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But that’s the ugly side that nobody likes to talk about or consider. But IMO it’s a valid concern when they have billions of TVL
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That’s true
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Lol
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LOL
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I think there will be even more shitcoin outs to get on OS
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more chains more options and more contracts that have been "audited"
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/p SHITCOINCARD
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You also can not do auctions with matic vault
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on os
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Personally I like xDAI because the native currency is stable so you always know the fee is x.xxxxx USD
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but how is that network secured?
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the contracts, audited? who controls the keys?
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It has a bigger multisig
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In general eveyone reading this , it is a risk to touch ETH and more so the others
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Polygon/Matic Network
xDai & Polygon Differences and Similarities
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Yeah definitely
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to keep your RAREPEPE in mint condition, just say no, but if you want to sell then the liqudity is calling
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Also it’s been around for longer so IMO more battle tested in the wild
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launch was in 2018 I think
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Matic launched in 2020
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I look at it like this, each chain is now an exchange, similar to centralised shitcoin exchanges, but just with different risks
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Yeah that’s a good way to look at it
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It stays in mint condition though, that’s why emblem vaults are so great
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so there could be liquidity or cheap fees at one, but it has trade offs
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yea
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Also, prob every exchange will have its own chain
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it is already going in that direction
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every CEX will have some kind of EVM ish thing
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No Theo you’re wrong, bitcoin wins with one chain to rule them all
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Everyone else just gives up
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haha
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no bitcoin has LIQUID! BITCOIN CENTRIC
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No one ever forks again
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The best way to understand how to get rekt, is to get rekt
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I am using poly matic
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lets see if it gets rekt
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if xdai has liquidity for rarepepe, gerat lets use it, until then, there is no reason for rarepepe to look there
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shitcoins and nfts are like humans and water, they crave liquitiy
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and live by it
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xDAI doesn’t have opensea so the NFT scene there is pretty small
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yea, and much of the nft world depends on OS
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which is not great to have one huge dependency
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and a US company
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epor.io (xDai) works for emblem - just looks funny
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/p yamapepe
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will probably put a dispenser up soon
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shame can only do one at a time
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/p dogsall
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/p PEPEHUNTER
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/p pepedurov
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Have placed a lot of bids on rarepepewallet.com and no takers
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I wonder what others have to say
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Yeah please share... I'm new to pepes
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Big Board on rarepepewallet.com
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👍👍👍
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Yeah I accepted a sell on rarepepewallet.com but haven't had any of my buys accepting... just curious as I guess the only way for an owner to know there's a bid is to manually check all of their pepes
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This one is 🔥
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Hi guys, I had two links to opensea to go directly to all rarepepes and the other to go to all nakamoto cards. From tonight the links are not working anymore.. any Idea?
https://opensea.io/assets/emblem-vault-v2-v2?search[numericTraits][0][name]=RAREPEPE&search[numericTraits][0][ranges][0][max]=1&search[numericTraits][0][ranges][0][min]=1&search[sortAscending]=true&search[sortBy]=PRICE
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to find the RAREPEPE assets on Opensea I've been searching "RAREPEPE Card 1" and sorting descending by price. not perfect but a little scrolling you see them all, mixed with some others
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Name of the collection on OS changed
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This is a relatively small community so things move slow, including orders. The best way to monitor recent activity is with xchain.io and going to the order or dispenser tab from the “data” drop down menu. Many wallets are dormant so it’s hard to get some rares and it takes a lot of patience so don’t get discouraged. Posting what you want here is a good way to show sellers you want what they have. Maybe you could contact some auctioneers and tell them what you’re looking for too. They may know people who have what you want. Good luck, lots of cold wallets prob gone forever and those that’re active have gone through so many rare pepe market cycles their hands are harder than diamonds. A lot of “wake me up when rare pepe is on the news” holders I bet
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yes, sometimes
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do you hold other pepes, they might have airdropped it on you
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Only registered people can participate in the bidding room during the auction! -
LOT 12 - PEPEGOTCHI - You can now have your own pet, make sure to feed PEPEGOTCHI before you go to bed. INSPECT: https://xchain.io/asset/PEPEGOTCHI START: NO RESERVE
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Taking offer for cards on this address. DM offers..
14d8X9qbuibp6YjZGu4nvMhFEDLJ9XRLuW -
I mined 8 gen0 crypto-pepes
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If someone is interested into sell me cheaper pepecash let me know my buy rate is 0.0000002 I required 500k pepecash
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@O_oJack I would do that - do you have a dispenser setup?
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Have you read ? I m trying to buy pepecash
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lol - oh ok thought you were trying to sell
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Hi everyone!
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I have some Pepes that I'd like to trade for other ones. Is that done here? Or is this group just for discussion / buying / selling
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?
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Specifically I have exactly the same batch as this:
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SERIES 19 "Almost Complete Set" | Scarce City
FINE BITCOIN GOODS
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A series 19 'almost complete set'
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I have sent you a message sir or madam
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/p WILEPEPE
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Too cheap. No1 dumping. Lol. We all will buy at 20sat
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What is dumping?
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Selling at a number way below market value
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No - I mean what item is dumping!
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Love this 🐸🍸👼🏻#RarePepe is Pelè #Cryptopunks are Maradona Clear now? twitter.com/matthall2000/s…
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/p suckmypepe
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yo
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how to buy a mega pepe
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Hahaha 🤣 love it
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Guys - the Dispenser floor is 10 BTC for Rarepepe....
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did the other ones get sold?
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Don' t know - I guess so
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confirm.
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🤩
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lets take a look at dispenses...
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Wow not surprised tbh , look how well punks are doing
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2hrs ago 1.8
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wow
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15hrs ago 1.69
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a day ago 1.7
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so yeh guess they got scooped.
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some closed ... that 2.25 one
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off to the races folks...
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Desktop to create.
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looks like that last one was a self close too....
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sorry didnt mean that as a reply.
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You can send btc practically from any wallet you control the private key.
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Let's see if someone buys @10 BTC 😜
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YO
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i am a newbee
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any recommand for a new peper?
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rarepepewallet.com for your pepe browsing pleasure sir.
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btw how can i buy XCP
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pepewisdom.com good for sorting by issuances and artists
then some other helpful sites for browsing individual listings:
https://xchain.io/orders
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i just deposited some bitcoin
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You can use a dispenser via freewallet or dex.trades exchange some people have used
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thanks guys
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Okay i am blind, but i can't find a download for win desktop only webwallet
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thank you
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🙏was at the entirely wrong site
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so hard to use
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Yeah the other site - you dont control the keys
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ITS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE!
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I noticed this the other day, the source and destination are reversed. @jdogresorg
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anyone wanna have p2p transaction
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i have 1400 bucks
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wanna buy a mega pepe
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1000xcp + 400k Pepecash + 1 FUTURESPEPE; Bonus 3mil PEPEREPUBLIC
https://xchain.io/tx/dedb7abfaacd81e282b8d426a1487b1aa86dcd4e1e9931eba5a0a611ae024849 -
its to hard to buy xcp and pepecash
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A mega lot or just 1 pepe?
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just 1
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i think 1 is enough
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/p makepeperare
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dm me
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Do you mean MAGA or what?
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/p megapepeman
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who have this
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VINCEMCPEPE
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/p
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PEPECHAININ
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PEPEBALL
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PONZIPEPE
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/p
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PEPEACIDTRIP
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woha
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/p
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PEPENAL
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/p kaopepe
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Card not found.
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/p koapepe
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Card not found.
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/p koipepe
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PEPERIKISHI
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/p pepethetroll
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Dispenser up^
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Wearing those exclusive shoes
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/p RAIRPEPE
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/p kitano
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/p takako
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i put some lows up for 33k a piece for kitano takako
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Guys how many series 1 complete sets are possible? Considering burns etc...
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Yep. How many?
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What was the name of the card that was an earlier gif than UFOPEPE?
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From sarutobi I think
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the sarutobi card was in spells or just seperate to his game?
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To the game I’m pretty sure
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niiiice
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I don't think there is one but some of us are trying to figure this out if there's any historians here - NINJASUIT is probably what you're referring to but the gif version wasn't released until book of orbs which was a month after ufopepe
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ya says 2017 for the sar
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NINJASUIT 2016-05-06 but: https://twitter.com/MandelDuck/status/1418917247750451200Christian Moss
@MandelDuck @C0rnh0li0 (and 4 others) Actually come to think of it ninjasuit artwork was updated to the gif image later for book of orbs to make it more collectible looking, the original issuance was a pixel icon of a ninjasuit
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Month earlier
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Ahh ninja suit
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I just searched sarutobi and looked for gifs
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UFO was still Sep 2016
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Ya ufopepe was the first idea put down
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Awesome
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namecoin has xcp beat by years
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But does it have dankness
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It works lol
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👍
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@pepemom may I DM you?
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Go ahead
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I think it’s still being supported, you should ask in the counterparty telegram, pretty sure yuta (runs indiesquare) is in there
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Mysterious Aesthetic dm'd you question about op_return on twitter, can move discussion here if you'd like.
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Ah I saw I have notifications on Twitter but haven’t checked, I’ll reply there in a bit (in case others have the same question)
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beautiful rarepepe distribution
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(10 in dispensers or orders) - last nights data.
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Did anyone used to listen to the Whalepool Teamspeak? There was a guy on there (Marty) who I bet has a LOT of Pepes. He was known as 'Pepecashmillionaire'....guy was nuts and thoroughly marinaded in Pepe juice!
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18, 17, 17, 12 9
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Yeah he's around here and on other pepe related channels
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LordKek:
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are you the whale?
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shadowdennis
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damnson who is the pepbotwhale.
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i think hansel still holds those
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dammit dennis
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good distro brah
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Doesn’t look like a familiar address?
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dead mans switch wallet special.
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fo sho.
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.... for now.
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I should make it so whoever the largest share is it appears with diamond texture.
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maybe need to adjust it to deal with burn addys.
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91.9%
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Which in all fairness could just be fuckery
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mmmmm possibly. maybe its been discluded for some other reason... dispenser or something?
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yeh there is one in orders, i think thats what putting it off.
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Thanks bro
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/p stacypepe
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/p YAMAPEPE
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100 issuance, 83 burned. 1 of 17 left. Dispenser https://xchain.io/tx/dd7947a098747e688869586ee71f472e1e0b0a3f8daa59d28796f2b5f5885a1d
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does anybody have help on where to purchase XCP
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trying to buy some cards
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Dex-trade
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thx
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what exactly is XCP used for other than buying pepe cards
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lol
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Ive never heard of this token before
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performing certain actions on the platform such as registering an asset name, paying dividends, etc
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Well I don’t know that much and correct me if I’m wrong about it but it’s a layer atop Bitcoin that allows people to create tokens that can be transacted on bitcoin’s blockchain. Roughly 2.6 million were created and the creators destroyed 2,100 or so btc in exchange
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thank you everyone for helping explain
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it makes a little more sense to me
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its hard to find much material, there is no info on youtube
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Ah ok
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any one have OTC marketplaces for buying XCP?
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it sounds like whatever school you got your pepe masters degree in owes you a refund. 😊
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Yea I know how to get dank rares and that’s about where my expertise ends
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no no -that was just a joke - riffing on pepemaster's telegram handle 😊
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What cards? What you spending?
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Super scarce. No one wants to up pay for it. Everyone wants for $3. Liquidity very low.
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I want to buy rarepepe
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I should used reply - got tangled in the web of multi-conversations
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Ooof
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🥲
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the card, or in general? Would take a lot of XCP for the card!
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I want the card
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but in general as well
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Well evidently if you have 35 ETH to burn, could be yours!
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It was sold already
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If anyone has one to sell for 35E dm!
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For that price, certainly someone will "find" one!
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holding out for 21 btc pricetags.
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just cause it has a better ring to it.
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people are filling the gap in dispensers tho
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2.62 and 3 have appeared in the game.
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Use btc or eth
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/p PEPERAREPEPE
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This one is available!
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Yeah that small sliver of a sliver. Thats me. Fight me
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rarepepe 2.3btc looks like it dispensed 6 mins ago
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Yep
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My buddy just bought it
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88 grand huh, wow
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Hi, today i was trying to buy this but strangely didnt het the card and then the dispenser was not green/available
In case the owner was here and wishes send back the btc let me know otherwise maybe there s a problem and better check dispensers
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Thought that was joe at the bottom
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Weird . Must have closed it the same block u sent it
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Hope they didn’t do it purposefully
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I send that happen before
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hahaha true
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i'll fix that
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Yo you needed for your despinser
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Yup, I was just the address that created it too
https://blockstream.info/tx/857d5c59c14f2f533b7a39046a40fdfa79645647f24596df0d62afb4c4d9bac6Blockstream Block ExplorerBlockstream Explorer is an open source block explorer providing detailed blockchain data across Bitcoin, Testnet, and Liquid. Supports Tor and tracking-free.
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Blockchain don't lie. But he is probably sleep right now.
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He is known for refunding though.
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Avoid sending to dispensers that have an address that begins with a 3... there have been issues
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Pin it
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Noiiiiicceer
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$125k
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loool
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Emblem Vault Bot
RAREPEPE Nakamoto Card bought for 48.0Ξ ($126913.44) #EmblemVault $COVAL opensea.io/assets/0x82c7a…
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Dayum
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Still feels so cheap
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All this other shit in the space
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WTF
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I thought 35 ETH was a good sell
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literally mine sold for 35 earlier today
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This dispenser is still open but I forced the status to display as closed for now until the issue with using multisig addresses is resolved…. Only send to dispensers with addresses that start with 1 or bc…
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unisocks : rarepepe parity reached
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RAREPEPE Renaissance 2021
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this more crazy than all trading back in 2016/17. Nuts :D