But if you want badly to soso fork something, there are some cool abandoned tcg games out of development, you can easely get some rights and have a fun

everything that is built on a decentralized network is required by a GNU license, when you create a smart contract and it is compiled to the virtual machine code it is redistributed globally to all nodes, everything that is built on a public network decentralized you can fork, without infringing copyright, any company that wants to avoid this must create their own blockchain network and change the licenses to prohibit their use and copying.

I'm not talking about creating a new game, do you understand that?

Well sog is not build on blockchain, it uses it at small part

And that small part now that uses eth also not apply to the whole game, so.. you get the difference?

They are properties that are acquired with money, real money, and you can do with them whatever you want, because it is simply a smart contract in ethereum that tells you that your wallet has a card, and that confirms thousands of nodes that support you, and they say, hey this card that belongs to this address is the property of this address, this card no longer belongs to "centralized company"

Well just do what you want im not gonna argue here further, not my business, shaban will maybe answer to this if he is interested

I'm just trying to help, I've always played the game, I have no financial interest ...

Usually only the game would do such things as when another person does it comes off as shady and as if they might get scammed

I think there is a huge confusion here. @PayPy_TM was just proposing to move BCY and cards to another chain. Not to pirate copy 😂

And Shaban was pretty clear their approach is to be multichain and allow players to store their cards/assets on the chain they want

Exactly, and make the exchange with atomic swaps.

ok but that’s is what already in works

Things are coming with matic and ethereum. Let's see how it works when delivered, there will be Swaps between chains also 👌

with first oasis we should get another chains if there will be such interest

Great, now I have a lot of free time in quarantine, and I would like to start building something in Ontology and Neo using chainlink ...

is there any market for nft’s that’s the question

i could create prototypes of smart contracts and then have them audited by everdreamsoft, and if you agree @yodark

eth is sure atm for small transactions what game items needed too expensive

@PayPy_TM yes as folkaio mentioned we want to offer player to ability to store their token on the chain they like. If a token is verifiably and trustlessly swapped we are open to include it in the game

The good thing about smart contracts is that they are open to the public and anyone with knowledge can read the code and know if it is an exchange that is trustworthy.

Also from the discussion previous discussion. Here at EDS we make a distinction between Token - Asset and ORBs

The token is immutable verifiable non copiable decentralized etc

It’s a bare data on blockchain

An asset is an intellectual property like an art for example

For example a SOG card or a rare Pepe card a god unchained card etc

Or a cryptoshep

When somebody tokenize an asset he actually say this token represent this asset

That is what we call an ORB

yes, well that’s why by any takes i was talking about basic copyright stuff above

besides i doubt the art itself is onchain :D

So yes forking an asset is breaking copyright laws. Forking a token generally possible

even if it would be on chain it doesn’t matter

When someone purchases a SoG card, does he acquire an art, or the property rights to this art?

Yes because if I tokenized an art asset and say the holder own the right of this art piece. Let’s say I didn’t had the right on the asset as I stole it from somebody. Nobody can stop people from transacting the token but the underlying asset might disappear

We didn’t decided to a licence tied to the asset other than personal use. But we are quite open to it if you have a project to discuss

i leaning to say that neither is correct, if you buy a book, does the property law applied to the authorship of that text, i don’t think so

if you buy for example an painting you buy the painting you then have the right to sell it or hang it in ya house but not to copy i would say that is a good way to look at it

well, you can copy it, in different countries are different laws about. but you can do it to extent, first most important thing is always usage of thiscopy. if it’s only personal, no problem here

the only thing that I propose and can do is create in the Ontology network NFTs, interchangeable between the CP and ETH Blockchains.

that’s a good idea, more markets are always better

but let me question here that in ontology or neo there is nft markets that’s would have impact, maybe they will if you or somebody will do this job at once and we have access to those chains with our game cards and game assets

i’m looking closely how the dos and wax getting some traction from gaming items market but it’s still pretty small if compared to eth

enjin had big promises but arrogance from the team i think scares some developers away

you could try phantasma 🤔

What did they do ?

fairly newish i guess

You mean make token contract and atomic swaps ?

long story short, too much kyc to use their tools and too little effort to making boarding to small developer easier. at that time and i’m sure still they even didn’t accept any crypto payments for development platform, but there was many unanswered questions, some related why they and that was my strong no go, basically printed out enji token when it was not needed. GU developers had also some doubts about, as they had contact to maybe use enji but they developed their own contracts and achieved basically the same results

and you pay 30$ a month for practically nothing

like a thousand api requests every day or something

well i had some ideas but then we went with mint base guys who support was superior and they didint ask anything for usage of their smart contract

oh 500 per day

you can do it without but then you dont have any api to use

yes , there are many things if you get into

if you use their platform you will locked deeply into

what the api are for ? not to query the blockcahin directly ?

api is for creating shit and quering maybe aswell

pro plan is 99$a month with 5000 requests

5000 requests per day

?

not a lot

lol some shady request to closed contracts too,

ye its not that much for something like that

etherscan free api is 5 / sec

per ip

meaning every 1000 seconds you would have that many requests wich ends up at about 16 minutes

currently does not allow atomic swaps but it does allow cross-chain contracts

well that and some other shiet makes the enji no go in my eyes

im not a big fan but every person has different things they like

how does a crosschain contract works ?

sure

magic

ok guys leave you there maybe it’s a good project that comes out of it. have a nice time

https://medium.com/thorchain/why-cross-chain-bridges-are-superior-to-atomic-swaps-aebde263103c

sound interesting on the paper @PayPy_TM have you tried already ?

yes I have already tried it. the concept of cross-chains is simple, and less complex than atomic swaps ...

if you are intersted to show a litte demo with sog cards will be happy to have a look

is the only thing I have for now in the test network, a cross-chain between eth and ont,

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