Important to keep in mind before this issue is overblown this is primarily a problem mainly with specific US-based exchanges who are pre-emptively taking measures to avoid getting whipped by SEC.

Non US-exchanges (who make up the bulk of liquidity, anyway) will be more friendly.

And afaik, it's not just ongoing burn but initial distribution.

Binance is not us but the ask for a lawyer opinion

On why it’s not a security

Understood. Interested to find out. BCY is a great project, one of the earliest disruptors in the space. You'll find a workaround I'm confident, not necesssry to get disheartened 👌☺️

Yup, to cover their back. Some other european firms, those with a footprint in malta or singapore do the same.

Are you familiar with security vs utility issue ?

Some other exchanges are more permissive and lenient..(but ask for $$$ to list 🙄)

Yes, a little (not a lawyer though)

What do you mean by that ?

For example, consider ethereum

ethereum had an ICO, technically it's a security (also founders owned at one point more than 12.5% of supply)

Argument needs to be made that it was sufficiently distributed, decentralized and not a 'security'. Needs to be a tangible use-case for the asset/token in wuestion. Speculation cannot be it's main reason for existing.. many regulators are going hard on enforcement after 1000+ eth tokens this last year were created raising huge sums (many have not delivered much, many whitepapers plagiarized, many total scams)

this is why ripple rebranded and started bringing in lawmakers and regulators onto their board of directors

Please don't go crazy about securities!

I think main goal should be made higher avaibility to new in blockchain

And bitrex and polo with its kyc policy isn't good place to start

It should be done in a way that:

1. People play a game from bcy ecosystem and like it. (We need more good games)

It's the fault of all these money obsessed ico launchers using ethereum as vending machine for shitcoins, for example gnosis raised $300 million in 13 minutes...for a 5% stake in their platform.. a year later and they didn't even deliver an android app. 90% of ethereum ICO's have lost investors money, and this is also the reason for the downturn in the whole markets as regulatory pressure sucked the wind from this hype cycle and those that made big $$$ cashed out.

2. People should have the ability to buy BCY for upgrades (cards etc) in easy way - at best in one click for FIAT money (shapeshift? Or any easy exchange at least )

Counterparty initial burn was a great choice, one of the purest decisions and means it can sidestep all the attention these other tokens are getting. (SEC is contacting many tokens that raised funds in past year to us investors, particularly the 'scammiest" or most speculative )

Moving to ethereum will not fix that issue, in fact it will be even harder to get listed on exchange. Certainly bittrrexx or polo are not listing any new erc20 tokens in near. future, all these ico's are receiving letters from SEC, some Ico's have even returned funds to investors.

Easiest solution for liquidity in the short term is to get listed on APAC exchange, or a convertible dex passthrough token

Issue is regulatory it’s very hard to sell crypto for FIAT

https://tokenmarkets.net has a gateway, third party could set that up..but it's problematic to involve fiat pairs

As I wrote yesterday Eth swap could make IDEX lisiting possible

In USA.. please don't going crazy about regulations

It is some possibility to find a solution, despite regulatory issue

u could get on nos and let nex handle the fiat part 😉

I believe if could talk about it we could make it

No everywhere in the world you can’t technically sell crypto for fiat without proper KYC

That’s why we are not selling bcy for fiat since the beginning

And it is big advantage of BCY that we talk! There are many other crypto channels that are almost dead

BCY is an innovative project with a tangible use case. Blockchain gaming & collectibles is a real platform in a very early stage. Everything will be fine, it'll just take a bit of discussion and working out a migration path

I won't focus on technicallity - there should be some solution: with third party etc

Anyhow I’m working on the new token economic code name “rain” that I think could be a major change in the space

If the name is a clue to distribution model, ie: BCY falling from the sky then that's better for a 'sufficiently decentralized' argument

same if distribution is predominately via mining, or captcha like nano

I think BCY is not an utility or security token. It s more like a "local" or "completamentary" currency of an ecosystem.

And regulation / government hate to deal with currencies because they think to be the only ones allowed to do so.

Moving the usages to match better with security token can be an idea to simplify regulation aspects. Regulation need to work with objects they know.

What do you mean here??

In terms of what should be done to look more like a security token?

But why would that be something that is wanted? To look like a security token?

Ah no idea, just that shaban was mentioning that the issue is maybe related to the usages of BCY that regulations don't like

Indeed bcy is a currency so is complex today. Other option is just to be patient and wait acceptation of crypto currencies.

BCY was crowdfunded under a particular use-case promise.

That promise was not able to be kept due to Apple and Google Apps policies. The Original role of BCY was then taken over by in-game Gems.

At that point BCY had no real value and Investor funds should have been refunded. But there was no one to make anyone accountable so things progressed on.

EDS tried to give BCY value by insisting new card purchases from the releases was via BCY and transactions on their app would only be via BCY. But there is no real utility in that. They could have just as easily accepted BTC or ETH.

As it stands right now, EDS has over 90% of outstanding BCY. No one is going to buy into this with that status. And thus BCY has been on a death decline for many months.

SoG is a great game...it just doesn't need BCY in any way.

agreed 100%

The promise were kept since the very beginning it was clear that in app purchase will be in fiat and BcY will be burned for the equal amount

The token economic work as initially planed. And now it’s an issue for exchanges

This token economic has been used then by augmentors and beyond the void

Its an issue now because people are taking notice. And it doesnt take a brain surgeon to see that the initial distribution and current use-case stink.

Before nobody cared because 'everyone was making money'. But now people have lost a lot of money so the questions will start coming. Accountability will have its day.

But again SoG is a great game. I play it daily.

So ATM all cryptocurrencies, tokens etc. use-case stinks?
Can you give me an example of such great use-case that cryptocurrency price has raised in the past months?

I say bitcrystals was not performing bad (compared to the market in a whole) before delisting. I think the token economic is good except the fact that this kind is in the SEC visors and everyone is afraid. It’s a good reason for me to re-innovate the token economics

Don't let speculators and get-quick-rich people take too much of your time. Just continue to work on SoG, when there will be bull market everyone will miraculously become happy.

Shaban... do you even get what you are saying?
BCY should not be yours to 're-innovate the token economics' ... it is meant to be a DECENTRALIZED TOKEN.

Your point is we should then avoid centralized exchanges ?

:)

Reality is decentralized exchanges are not very powerful yet

You don't get the point. We are just afraid the project we love stop because of the financial aspects

@yodark No.
EDS sends out emails saying 'Bitcrystals is happy to announce...' You have intertwined BCY as EDS.
EDS is a company which you are CEO of.
BCY is a decentralized token. It cannot happily announce anything.

All said - the reality is EDS = BCY... it is nit decentralized -> therefore it is getting DELISTED.

Don't think SoG and EDS can continue to live with BCY value at 0 and their 1000 USD of in app purchase monthly

Not sure to get what you are suggesting then

And you smile this? Really

Forget BCY and concentrate on building a great game. SoG doesn't need BCY to be great.

Only you need BCY because it was your free money source - at the expense of initial crowdfund investors. But the days of you sitting on millions has gone. Accept it. BCY is dead.

BitCrystals (BCY) are tradable Counterparty assets which act as the game-fuel and premium currency in EverdreamSoft’s free-to-play
mobile game Spells of Genesis (SoG)

the blurb from 2015 , when i invested. not the case is it.

in my view was a lie, but hey thats just my opinion.

Initial crowdfund investors will know what i and @hellsteeth are saying.
SoG players that came later and just played the game will have no understanding of whats occurred during the past 4 years.

👍

That's all the reality-check i can dish out for one day.
Back to the monthly campaign and getting an Aodh.
Good luck all on your crypto adventures.

All the blockchain cards issued are buyable with BCY in that sense it’s the premium currency for assets. And the fact player are able to buy via in app purchase without the need for crypto was defined since the beginning. Ill go trough the docs. And when iapp occurs bitcrystals is burned

Haha no I won’t let it down it’s still the main blood of book of orbs and I don’t like to let people who bought the BCY from the beginning down

Oh... and @jaka123 - good luck on your ass kissing. 😘

nah m8, you made out bitcrystals would be used in game, thats simply noy the case.

Our goal is to build an innovative in-game economy while developing the whole game and background story, cryptocurrency will be used
as an in-game means of exchange.

Well bitcrystals is the mean of exchange in Boo which is not in game I agree but still the mean of exchange of the games items

You already have Shaban, you already have. No-one uses BoO or trades SoG cards. Look up def of Ghost Town.

as for the noobs slaggin off polo and bitrex, lol.

A ghost town is an abandoned village, town, or city, usually one that contains substantial visible remains. A town often becomes a ghost town because the economic activity that supported it has failed

https://digirare.com/dappradar

SOG is steadily the blockchain games with the most exchanges

what???

hello
I just seen that we have ATL at this point
550 sats.... BCY rest in peace

a year ago, everything looked pretty good)

but now I do not even know what to say. neither a new wallet nor a new game will help here.

they already at it, with a table (looks shit) but another great way to scam with another ico😂😂

oops sorry not scam , "development" lol

Sorry this discusion bring us to nowhere

We should think: what we can do and how to do

Or better to say: how much EDS team is ready to sacrifice

Their time their money etc

gather all evidence , from bitcointalk and here, then see what regs come out, as this lot are either shit or scammers. the end.

It will need them to make hard decision for sure

should of known years ago when they didnt want nothin to with steam, when greenlight was active...

But I hope it will be hard for themself at first not BCY holders...

@hellsteeth there is no green light for SOG this is beyond the void

I know many cases where if a project (in overall not just crypto) was in trouble owners adds its own money to save

its a bubble pop game..... with cards..... wats to save?

moonga was just as bad

there are tons of players in other game dunno why its dead here

valve due to releasae there own card based game.

you jokin, they cant even say how many active players per month lol

@adamvp what you say is so true. We all have had hope for a long time... but we keep getting let down.

Maybe we should specify what we expect?

maybe they should honor waht they said, bitcrystals to be used in game??

not just for buyin cards

Buying cards

And burning BCY for inapp fiat purchases should be ok

The in-game currency for SoG is BitCrystals - with an 's' at the end!

taken from bitcointalk. feb 17th 2015

But we need > greater userbase > more promotion of card dex (BoO etc) - it is not easy to see that such option exist if you start playing SoG and come off crypto comunnity).. we need they share their supply to make more decentralised.. Ok I have an idea. LET DEVS MAKE GOOGLE DOCS and invite community to give their proposals...

I understand you, yes. I admit that I don't know all the details of BoO/SoG ecosystem.
But the thing is that if we are all complaining about every mistake/anomaly there is:
1. We wouldn't bring good "vibes" which only makes new investors/ random people who trades irrational turn away from BCY and sell them all.
2. Admins/devs/team could be answering our "complaints", "suggestions" etc. whole day. Which means no development and this brings a chance for success to 0.

I know all things are not perfect they're different from what we expected. I assume that in crypto space a lot of plans get's crushed because of different troubles which crypto brings. And that's something every investor in crypto projects should be very aware of.
Team must compensate all the time. I. e. They would probably be able to make game where all in-game purchases would be possible with BCY but this would mean no Google play... I think that being on google play is more important at the moment. And I believe there's tons of other trade offs they had to make.

So I don't know about you guys but I am comfortable with my position in BCY, I don't intend to sell them below a price I've set to myself (which is much higher then ATM) and I wish good luck to the team.

It should be a "community manager" for talks here and devs - better separate persons..

I agree people is probably too emotive sometimes including myself but discutions and complains are necessary to understand the mystakes and know what would like the community which are basically investors and this makes a big difference. You can't come here without knowing what is going on and ask the CEO to stop listening to people because they are only speculators that want quick money.
There is few indeed but people active in this channel aren't for sure.

Hi, where can I store bcy now they're being delisted?

Gosh so many kept bcy in exchange

Just use the casa tooken wallet to store

Is that desktop, I presume?

No mobile

Its eds latest wallet

I don’t post much at all here about things, BUT I did warn everyone 3 months ago about the very real possibility of Bittrex delisting BCY. I ALSO EXPLAINED, on discord, a very simple way for everyone to HELP and KEEP BCY on Bittrex. Sorry to say but I can only say in the three months that have past that I did not notice anymore traded volume except what I did each day. I did my part by some days trading up to 3 BTC in volume per 24 hours BUT I have been doing on average 0.3 - 0.6 BTC Volume myself each day. Just purely to keep volume up so BCY did not get delisted 2 months ago. So unlike before when I asked others to help boost the volume, this time I’m TELLING everyone they MUST help or the delisting will be final as promised in Bittrex’s announcement.

There’s still time to get the delisting CANCELED if more than just myself would just do simple volume trading in quick bursts. If BCY could get 2+ BTC VOLUME EACH AND EVERY DAY, with a slight growth each day, then Bittrex would cancel the scheduled delisting and place BCY on a 1, 2 or 3 month probation period while watching trading Volume closely every 24 hours. It’s that simple if everyone is as concerned as each person has expressed here.

This was my original posting, on Discord, about my concerns of BCY getting delisted when it was still on both Bittrex and Poloniex. It starts now

Please everyone read if you have a minute, starting below

I just want to ask, what is everyone waiting for to buy the high BCY priced cards and really any of the cards? I mean BCY is so undervalued at $0.20 per coin. Prices on everything are so cheap compared to past times. This is a community driven coin due to the specifics BCY was created around. The only way to drive the price up on outside markets is from within. Sadly BCY is only on 2 Major Markets currently and if we as the community do not bring the Volume up on both Bittrex and Poloniex, both will drop their listings of BCY much sooner than later. If that occurs there will be no one other than the community members and players to blame for that happening. I buy and sell 1,500 to 2,000 BCY twice a day on BITTREX and that’s roughly 1/10 of the Volume for the whole day. Remember price won’t get BCY dropped but Volume will in a blink of an eye. If everyone would make a buy and sell 1 time a day, that would get BCY off the dangerously low Volume level it’s currently at. That would help out in every positive way for everyone involved....

Please do not take what I said as me trying to scare anyone. The core team is busy as ever working on new projects for the BCY platform. I personally am releasing a massive project within the next week that has BCY and SoG integrated into it. And to back up the statement that I mentioned “the core team is busy as ever working on new projects”, I have a second project that will be collaborating with eds in the near future to further growth of both the game and BCY. I only say that to everyone to build much more confidence in everything eds is doing and also try to build that old excitement the community as a whole seems to have lost totally of late. Just remember what I said about us as a community drives BCY values. If we are not on Market Trading or just talking talking elsewhere about BCY and SoG, then none of the dedicated traders will not be excited about BCY either. From the Market release til 7 months ago BCY was an extremely active market with a minimum of 65 btc Volume traded per day, and that was a very low volume then. Currently BCY is right at 1 btc trade Volume per 24 hours on Bittrex. Gaps between trades can build to over 1 hour, 3 or 4 times a day. I just wanted to point out different things we can change and more exactly, things everyone NEEDS to do to become a successful community dedicated project driven by its users once again. I hope this inspires those that read this posting. Thanks

I posted that 7/24/2018

Admins, @Eds_Yzia I think it could be pinned what do you think?

@yodark

If we get reall spike in volume maybe bitrex reconsider delisting?

I can tell both Kaliya and Nicolas

Absolutely they will

But there also has to be a steady increase per 24 hours, then they will cancel the delisting and put on a probationary period of 1, 2 or 3 months

BCY has been there longer than 97% of the other bullshit so they will only put it on a 1 or 2 month minimum period I truly believe

But with the crazy low price and volume, you can’t lose really any money to be noticed with the tiny spread’s. Plus like I believe my original post points out, once volume picks up through everyone helping then HFT traders, bots and general Crypto traders will take notice and boost what we are doing.

So it’s either the community comes together and helps this community they are involved with or watch BCY ONLY BE TRADED ON Counterparty’s DEx where BCY began/started its trading journey.

Sorry if I sounded blunt, but just telling everyone the facts. Also trying to make it clear to all that bitching and complaining about it does absolutely NOTHING, ACTION does EVERYTHING.

@adamvp I messaged both Kaliya and Nicolas to pin my message

bcy delist from bittrex

what can i do?

It’s not delisted yet but in a little over a week it will be. So I was just explaining to those who want to see it continue to stay listed to boost the trade volume immediately per 24 hours....

I personally trade on average roughly 0.5 btc per 24 hours on Bittrex and have since mid July. So whatever you can do would help.

And please do not think of it as a pump but more or less a survival mode

@ajaytbvj Please ask me any questions on what exactly to do if unclear

Remember buying adds to the Volume and selling adds to the Volume, meaning they do not monitor each buy or sell individually. They do for internal information but for the public information they are added together and that is what needs to bump up over 2 btc immediately. Then grow more tomorrow, more the next day and so on

Thanks Olivier. We're looking at it. Is it possible to get your used device details?

i'm not sure the delist is due to lack of volume, plenty of no volume coins still.....the fact that trex may have considered it a potential security is more likely IMO....they never give their reasons though

@Brawne Yes that is how they and ALL Real Crypto Exchanges were/are set up. They can’t make money on coins with no volume. Ive been in Bitcoin since before Crypto Exchanges were even a year from being thought of. And with Bittrex, I know everyone quite well to say that simply. But this is absolutely 100% a Volume issue.

it could very well be a combination of both

@Brawne As for Security or really Risk Management, they carry no risk with BCY since they do not hold BCY on site for more than 1 deposit confirmation. I could further elaborate on that but that alone should more than sufficiently answer why it’s not a risk management issue.

@Brawne But if not please ask me to elaborate further, sorry if I cut my answer short.

security as far as the SEC/US goes, not computer security

@Brawne Under 1btc Volume ELIMINATES SEC laws with Crypto Exchanges

Actually it’s under $10,000

you sure? i've never heard that argument.....i dont think its likely the SEC would come after it anytime soon, if ever....but trex has definitely dumped plenty of tokens that were in a gray area

But just said 1 btc because it was roughly the past months average for bcy or there abouts. Plus 1 btc Volume is the cut off point for delisting of Coins.

Yes I’m quite sure, but really the only thing the SEC is actually looking at is the ERC’s and their bullshit ICO process they have exploited and scammed. Which is $18 billion of the $21 billion raised over the last year.

@Brawne I’m just explaining, please do not take what I am saying as me being argumentative.

i'm not, ive been around for a long time 😃

i definitely do believe the SEC is only going after the big projects at this time

@Brawne You are very correct about those those ERC’s. There are 103,672 FUNGIBLE ERC 20’s alone out there and that doesn’t count the other 3 varieties. And talk about serious bullshit, in mid May 2018 during the course of 5 days there were 4,300 new ERC tokens created.

i know in the past trex would usually give a low volume "warning" before delisting....not sure why they stopped doing that

But anyone that knows me or follows me know how very much I hate Ethereum and the absolute nightmare they caused with everything they touch, especially the ERC project which should aptly be named “Selling of ideas that might be created later”.

@Brawne I am 95% sure it was because of the crazy amounts of Ethereum tokens they were constantly forced to delist. But that I’m not 100% sure but I remember Ryan telling me something to that effect. And that was mid 2016 when they stopped sending them out so it would fit the bill if so.

@Brawne Unless you are talking about “Coins you held more than a Zero balance”, which they still do.

i know probably in 2015 or 16, if a coin was at risk of delisting due to low volume, trex would give a week grace period to get volume above a certain level.....it usually didnt work though

Yes you are correct there, exactly what I was saying myself. The problem why many didn’t work is they also had to show “any amount” of growth per 24 hours. Most didn’t realize that. And so they would think they were good and the week would end and they were stuck with no exchange. ;)

yep, agreed

Hear hear.

None

Gotcha

;p

^^

was finishing to read all comments of this weekend 😊

I had to chime in to explain what needs to be done, but I didn’t notice anything more yesterday so hopefully they will start today, idk though

I do believe that was the first I made myself know here.

we are working on it, lot of discussion, meeting and work to do, so it's not so easy ^^

@pkeane4osu how has/is the project you mention in your post going/gone?

I understand from Shabans point of view, or I should say from a ceo standpoint BUT I don’t think he wants me to voice my opinion on what he’s now favoring. Sorry to say this bit but jumping to the absolute totally insecure Ethereum Chain is about putting a gun to the head of the company. So I can’t say I am in agreement with what he’s doing.

@troy Well it’s my project that has been fully developed by me and has so very very many resources for Bitcoin and Crypto users. If you are interested in reading about it I opened the project’s Telegram channel with the Abstract pasted upon the welcome wall. I will open it up for you to read if you like.

I was going to open the external pieces up today or tomorrow anyway. My project has absolutely none of this bullshit ICO scandalous behavior, INSTEAD it is 150% complete and running fully stable across all platforms. Just to give you an idea of how large and how many top shelf resources it has in the platform, well it has 117,892 Files compiled within the servers

So literally there is everything built in to HELP everyone.

Sure. I'll commit to read it during the week.

Paul you extreme passion is bluntly obvious - and that is very admirable. The world needs more passionate people like you.

BUT after reading everything you wrote above, i am in absolutely shock at the same time. I think your passion is so extreme that's its blinded you somewhat.

You definitely have so much positive energy to dedicate - i wish you all the best.

Ok I just gave this link to the first person just now and you are the second—> https://t.me/ExplodingBitcoins

@troy make sure you please read the welcome page completely so you can get a very solid grasp on what I’ve created for any and everyone, with one group not going to enjoy their time within my project. That group would be anyone that takes from others intentionally, you know the group I’m hinting about. But besides them EVERYONE is welcome to grow with Bitcoin, Blockchain and improve the Crypto community as a whole

Yes its interesting. Very new thinking in the space.
I will read it more indepth in time out of respect for the work you've obviously put into it.

If i could offer some constructive criticism/instant observation that came across to me: your passion for what you're saying and what you're doing comes across a little too forcefully. It has undertones bordering on religious/fanatical beliefs -> and its obviously because you believe so deeply.

Advice is maybe consider someone neutral read through it and soften the tone.

Again... i wish you all the best.

Well I understand that because I got into bitcoin in November 2009 and I literally am borderline obsessed with finding new Areas to integrate Blockchain technology into. I really look to move Blockchain into areas WITHOUT Crypto, to show the world it can do everything easier and safer by 1000%. So I get your comment about me.

Feel free to post over there, either place is fine but I didn’t mean to have you read it and leave immediately. Also if you have Discord too, I would happily let you open that up too, only if you are interested.

@troy one thing I failed to mention, Spells of Genesis is embedded directly into the platform. SO that is why I am not looking to have BCY drop out as I'm releasing

👍

Really nice read for a newbie like me. Hard to find this kind of discussion on telegram. Thanks everyone.

Thx @troy and thx @GameToken

@GameToken you say you are new, then I encourage you to never hold any questions you may have back to prevent your learning process of the Crypto world. Once I open the site everyone will have some of the first Coin Developers and Earliest Coin Programmers to help you learn. Something to keep in mind :)

Also, everyone I've asked to put in appearances on site are all of the same mind set like myself, very very easy going and willing to help anyone. Kind of think of it as the Anti-BitcoinTalk, which anymore they cause more people to quite Crypto than enjoy it.

Sorry I'll stop talking off topic @shaban, @Kaliya and @nicolas

;p

😊❤😊 np^^

I know it shouldn't be a problem because of both companies are working with each other, but still I feel odd like I'm some random spammer, lool

never !

:)

Lastly of the two external properties/channels I'm releasing today. This is the discord link and its available always and feel free to share to anyone you like. This is the last post I will publish here today. But if anyone has any questions message me directly or indirectly. Thx

https://discord.gg/b2tNK2T

now that bittrex is out , where can i store my bcy tokens ?

any suggestions plz

@Btcdream They are not “done” so keep them there and force trade back and forth to build volume

@Btcdream Go up even above the my message @kaliya pinned and read from where I started and that will explain what needs to happen. I’m starting to feel like many of you are not convinced I am correct about this. I promise you I know very well how they go through the listing and delisting process. And besides if I was just making everything up, really what would it hurt at this point? Once any CP coin is fully delisted and goes back to the CP DEx, that is death for the coin, so I am sure you all do not prefer that so just trust me. I promise I would never waste anyone’s time.

I have been following the discussion here with great interest. Please let me add my 2 cents (or 2 BCYs). I am an old-school cartoonist that started publishing in the mid 1980s. So I talk to a lot of people in the arts about rare digital art, and have used many systems out there for issuing and selling rare digital art. including SuperRare, FanBits, RARE Art Labs, and CryptoSketches. Thus far, without hesitation, I can say that BoO and BCY are by far, both the best markets where I have sold the most art (through the CrystalsCraft collection) as well as the most user-friendly markets to explain to other people--especially when it comes to live demonstrations which I have done on numerous occasions for professionals. I am not knocking other platforms. I like the other platforms too and there is room for them all. But BoO and BCY are light-years ahead of the rest in so many areas. I sold some art there as recently as last month and I plan on issuing more there too.

And most of SoG's original artwork came from Deviant Art, if you didn't know

But yes they are and which is why I included them into my project. Plus CP is miles above ERC 721 (specifically for gaming) and ERC 1155 (More geared towards digital ownership). At least those two slugs are at least Non Fungible unlike their world ending cousins ERC 20 AND ERC 223 that are nothing more than demons from hell created to allow people to scam money in unheard of proportions. So...

Thanks 👍

I did not know that about Deviant Art. Thanks.
Regarding the general sentiment in the recent tone of some of the comments in this thread, I understand that BCY is not progressing as a cryptocurrency at the USD value or volume that we would currently hope for. I do get that. But really, these are just growing pains. We as a BCY community are sitting on innovation that is some of the most potentially disruptive in all the art, gaming and finance world. Sadly, the timetable for this growth is not completely in our control, but I am certain that what EDS is doing will have a massive impact and I am grateful to be part of this community.

I will give you one example, from an entrepreneurial artist's perspective on how innovative EDS has been with Book of Orbs. Take the "Send" feature in Book of Orbs. That's where the owner of the rare digital art--or blockchain card--can transfer ownership of any number of their cards to another collector. This is revolutionary in the art world, and gaming world too. With digital art, this was previously impossible to do, yet it is so needed. You'd think all the other markets have that, but frankly, most don't.
As a practical application, this is quite huge. It's like when I used to do tours and exhibit at comic book conventions. For certain media people and professionals that I wanted to give my work to, I would simply hand them a free copy of my comic book, with the hope that they would write about it and tell others. The "Send" feature in Book of Orbs is the rare digital art equivalent of this. Just a few weeks ago I was explaining crypto-art to a professor and moderately well-known artist who teaches at the University of Southern California. He wasn't quite getting it at first, so we pulled out our phones, I had him download Book of Orbs, sent him two of my rare digital art pieces (Crypto Kiddies) for free, and now he gets it. Shortly after this demonstration, he included Book of Orbs in an arts presentation that he did at a museum in Los Angeles, and soon I will be presenting to his grad students on crypto-art. And guess what one of the main tools I will use to demonstrate it? That's right: Book of Orbs.

Sorry Buddy I'm just working on a couple things at the moment so I'm not ignoring you. I'm over on my group not my channel if you want to talk over there while I do a couple things there

My comments here about BoO became the foundation for my latest Steemit article which I will also put on ONO, Whaleshares and Twitter. https://steemit.com/art/@joechiappetta/rare-digital-art-on-book-of-orbs-send-is-your-friend

If you are worried about losing BoO as your platform, I personally would not allow it to be scrapped, do I think Shaban is scrapping it, No. But my project would easily take it over if it was available or just scrapped

If that eases your mind idk but I don't say things to hear myself talk

My personal opinion is BCY will convert to BCY on that shit ethereum chain like Storj and do about what Storj is doing there. But getting that out of Shaban would be very close to when they jump ships.

Idk I just thought you sounded a bit upset about the possibility. Was I wrong ?

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Not upset at all, as my latest Steemit article shows. Fired-up about BCY, BoO, the eventual expansion of Casa Tookan, and the wisdom from the EDS leadership to be cautions, regulator-compliant as well as proactive about market positioning, promotions, and building things that work rather than selling hype.

I'm going to send you a DM

My first finished campaign :-)

regulator-compliant.. Why people didn't realize that regulations (in a way establishment offer) will KILL crypto?!

What I mean is that we all operate as citizens of our various countries and we do fall under their jurisdiction, whether we like it or not. Especially EDS, as a real company, and all of us, as real citizens, will go farther as we understand and respect the laws of the land, learning how best to navigate within those laws. Also keep in mind that regulators have not killed crypto--not even a little. It is still operational and has been for almost 10 years.

ok but we cannot give up regulations without a fight - if we gave up - we already lost and crypto is senseless :(

I think it is about educating the regulators, relationship building with government influencers, and getting them to use crypto too. I see that happening more and more.

it is a miracle

illusion

establishment ("banksters" etc ) never allow broad adoption of independent crypto

we should work regardless of the government (ok, not against but we should stop to fear! And what I see day by day "somebody is afraid of whether it is certain that the regulator will not reject sth?)

You cannot stop an idea and the genie is well and truly out of the bottle.

hi all, i wanted to share an observation/experience i had in Riga, Latvia last month. i attended #bh2018 (amazing!) and met many bitcoiners and some shitcoiners too. while chatting with no less than 5 groups, maybe 6, during my week there, i brought up SoG and declared it one of my favorite early btc projects and one of the only that actually produced a usable product. not one of them had even heard of it. keep in mind, these aren't noobs, these are long time hodlers and community members. zero knowledge. i showed them BoO and the game itself on my phone. zilch. nothing. im not fudding here, im a SoG ICO participant and have well over 1k txs on my associated wallets - ive been around. we've failed to get the message out. period. idk if it was the British TV channel thing or the insistence of sticking with French as the dominant language or what...? but nobody knows this game exists. it was eerie. not sure what i'm trying to convey here but i thought it might be good for the EDS team to know this. seriously, at least 25 ppl - nothing.... where to go from here? idk. fwiw, i love SoG and have and will support it going forward. best to you all.

i think thats a problem in general, most people are just in crypto for the speculation, its very difficult to find a list of all the actual products that are out there

hello! about pinned - maybe it will be better to pin an abstract (few steps which can be done to save BCY at bittrex? (and link to Pauls message)? "BCY is going to be delisted at bitrex, but we can prevent that.. we shoud just... 'trade' etc" ?

agree ^^ but I will pin something else (Quizz tomorrow) :)

---Quizz Day---

Tomorrow, it will be Quizz day on #Telegram ! Answer correctly to a few questions and you'll be rewarded with BitCrystals. So get ready !

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hi
quizz with same reward?

What do you mean?

10 bcy = USDT 0.309387

10 bcy = 3 crystalscraft cards too :p

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Cmon

https://twitter.com/a_table_game/status/1051820827665199104

@twens about your report (Casa Tookan), it will be fixed into the next release ^^ thank you 😊👍

can i use my xcp seed to get into casa tookan?

your xcp wallet? Yes

All counterparty wallet are compatibles with Casa Tookan

and it will make an eth wallet with my xcp seed aswell then?

the ether address is directly created if you do not have one.

for example, if you created a wallet with indiesquare app, you have the 2 type : BTC and ETHER so you will find the 2.

If you previously created a wallet with counterparty (xcp) or BoO, then the eth address will be automatically created when you will log in.

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Do you already complete the october campaign?

is there a bot here to display cards?

humm no sorry

what do you need @doormopphone please?

nah it's ok

😕 hummmm ok :p

how do i know if my mail is registered to get ethermage?

the card will be send to the wallet connected to Casa Tookan directly

@doormopphone ;)

ok

hehe I was so lucky with my last shoot !! I clean all the ennemies orbs

Hi ^^ welcome !

thank you :)

hey @manksi

long time no see

hey dennis :D

yeah good to see you here!

Hi welcome ^^

still loving XCP but not much going on

how is your game coming?

BCY of me into Bittrex ,it will delist 26/10 ,so where do i do ?

withdraw or sell

development ongoing. funding would help us get our cto full time involved and thus accelerate a lot faster

not wallet

It is not sure

Look at this post

@Dangminhtuan

withdraw to other EX

Please read

just create a wallet like a counterwallet.io or at latest app CasaTookan

CasaTookan have wallet ?

other ex have a 20$ volume

EX not good,hihi

If you want to store do not use Exchanges NEVER

Every exchange will eventually be hacked/or will be a bankrupt etc. It is only matter of time

But if you want to keep BCY at bittrex please make some trade as in Paul's messagw

Message

^

yes,i want withdraw to wallet not EX

Use Casa tookan or Book of Orbs

thank

I have a proposal that would eliminate the need for BCY to be on Bittrex. If the following were put in place, then BCY being on a 3rd party exchange would not matter so much to most of us.
Solution: Upgrade Casa Tookan to also be the exchange for turning BCY into BTC and back again.

Integrate something like shapeshift into casatookan?

Yes, please!!!

It is one of the biggest barriers to entry for new people that I refer to BoO. They can figure out how to get BTC from Coinbase or Gemini. But then they have to go find BCY. Let's make it easier by creating this in-app exchange.

@yodark @Eds_Yzia I previously created an counterparty wallet, and I was assigned a new ETH address (when I imported the seed of the counterparty wallet to the app) . However all of my assets are in my already existing ETH address. Will there be an option in the future to add (the seed) of an ETH address to the casa tookan?

Very difficult and very expensive to move all my assets from my existing ETH addy to the one that I was assigned by the casa tookan

Maybe you should try import eth seed instead?

Well... at this stage I can't. App allows to only import 1 seed (and I already imported the counterparty seed). Currently I can only generate new casa (casa 2, casa 3, etc.) which is actually new random pairs of counterparty & ETH address. I thought that the whole point of casa tookan, was to have all the counterparty & ETH assets own, under the same "casa", something that at the current state is not possible

Yes it is very hard technically..

I clearly understand that. Similar to the seed that someone creates in hardware cold storage wallets, from one seed can derive many address (for a current and also different Blockchains). However it is not possible to take an address that derived from one seed, and integrated to another seed. What I suggest is the following: add one seed with my main counterparty address (casa 1). Add the seed of my main ETH address (casa 2).Then inside the casa tookan to have the option to declare my main counterparty address the counterparty address of the casa1, and my main ETH address the ETH address of the casa2. That way there will be an internal integration of my 2 addresses.

What is more frustrating, is that this is the third time that I am asking this question, and no one from the "team" even bothered to answer me. Even an answer such as "we do not know", "maybe" etc. would have been enough

Need to tag @Eds_Yzia or @yodark to highlight it to them. Tagging a admin always helps with time zones etc

Edit my post & tagged both of them. Thanks for the suggestion. I though that admins go through and read the whole conversation log, and have the ability to respond if they like to previous comments (even if that takes time due to different timezones). It's not that we have 10000 members , with thousands of comments every day and you can get lost. LOL

Hi, i just forward your suggestion to the team. when you said that the reply from the team is "maybe" "we do not know", i am not sure you are talking about someone from the team, because even if we do not know, we always ask to get an answer asap. I also reported your previous comment about the importation of an ether wallet into CT directly, I am waiting to get more info to get back to you.

Do not hesitate to let me know if you have more ;) @tweetious

Hi everyone ^^

Quizz day !!! \ o /
I will ask during the day 3 questions // the 3 first faster to reply here (and the good reply) will win 10/5/5 BCY each
😊
(rewards will be send during the week).
Your reply has to be fully written, for example if the question is True or False, you have to write True or False and not no or yes.
Do not hesitate to let me know if you have question about the rule - Good luck

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thanks 👍😄

you're welcome ^^ 😊

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sorry, try again 😂

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Correct Answer: @Eds_Yzia is the most awesome of awesome

@Eds_Yzia the correct answer is.... 42

Get ready all ^^

hehehe :p

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Marketa - Marketing Manager
is known as AKA Yummy _ ? 😊

Tartiflette

Tartiflette

Tartiflette

And ultimate shrew

Noice

https://twitter.com/a_table_game/status/1052184095189553152

Well done ^^ 😊

Do you know what is Tartiflette? ^^

something to eat? :D

Flying UFO tart

Where the bacon

hehe I did one few days ago ^^

into the cheese and cream 😊

So mine is in the post?

looks like mac and cheese

Tratiflette.... 😍

54 34 45 23 11 14 42 15 11 31 54 14 15 13 42 54 35 44 44 23 11 44

???

Secret @Eds_Yzia

I am curious :p

Hey do you know that Shaban is coming to Paris? We are going to the Game connection Europe, event that is during the Paris Games Week :)

If you plan to be around, let me know 😊

Hoo give my "hello (world)" to him

I will ^^ but you know you can just say him hello there and ping him 😊 hello @yodark ^^

ho.... well "hello Boss" @yodark

(fin du déménagement) ((ENFIN))

me too !!!

YEAAAAAAAAAA *hug* it is finaly done

S..ar of ..ly..

@NicolasSierro did you plan something with the numbers into the collection At o Mo please? (i am just curious)

🙈😞🙈 a bit late

😊😊😊

\ o /

Hello :)

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Quick back to work @Eds_Yzia the boss is here.

Lol 😆

Yes basically Casa Tookan allow to have from one passphrase a dérivation of eth and btc address. Since everything is stored locally the app cannot know other private keys. The risk if we allow to import is people thinking their private key is stored in their « account «  and if the phone is lost they might lose access

But I hear it’s a wanted feature. We will think on how we could implement that in an elegant manner

With a elegant martini 🍸 maybe?

when satoshicard will be valued 1 BTC again ?

use liquidity network maybe in the next fase as offchain operations are zero fee the game will give me back more than what i lost

Shaken, not stirred martini :p

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hey there !!! Get ready for the second part of the quizz \ o /

😂😂😂😂 looool !!

nooooo ^^

hehehe

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here I am :D

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What is the name of this card? 😊

pepecard

Pepetoshi

Pepecard

pepecard ?

it's a card wit a rarepepe yes

but you still didn't get the name 😊

Hilaire de Rien

it's also a card used into the game mafiawars

Pepe the sog

1 good reply !!

Pepe The SoG

pepe the sog

Really noone want to copy me?

Pepetoshi

Pepe the sog

Lol

hahahaha 😂😂😂

http://rarepepedirectory.com/?p=1038

I found it ;)

pepethesog

PEPETHESOG

:P

😊👍 correct PEPETHESOG is the correct name ^^

congratulations 😊❤😊 !!

Same Addy plz thx

I should do more question like this ^^ it's funny 😊

too many rarepepes :D

hehe

Humm let's prepare the last question for tonight :p

^^

Wow

Hi ^^ and welcome :)

Okay

Hello

Missed tw🍧

hey ^^

love this one ❤👍

yes, I started writing, but phone battery suddenly...

so

OMg

I just noticed hours later that you used my PEPETHESOG card for the quizz

and like in other telegram channels, I remind about the artist interview

LOL

http://rarepepenews.com/card-creator-interviews/hilaire-de-rien/

but adding as well that all 6 cards are playable in Mafia Wars

https://mafiawars.io/card/nicosarkos

https://mafiawars.io/images/cards/NICOSARKOS.gif

"Staff : Law Enforcement" 😳

hey there ^^

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I hope you are ready for the last question of the day !!!

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What SoG blockchain card will you receive by the end of November if you install Casa Tookan? 😊

Hope you are not all sleeping !! 😂

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ETHERMAGE

ethermage

ethermage?

hehehe ❤👍

Gratz ^^

it's so quiet at this time 😂

Prefect timing for me!

😱

Same wallet. Thanks :-)

Thank you all for this Quizz day ^^
Rewards will be send soon 😊❤😊
Have a nice week and do not forget our Quizz day next week \o/

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YZIA .....

😄😄😄😄😄

The group is up side down.... 360 member... 360°

not my best joke...but maybe my worst EVER

Loool

😂

missed x3 😐

😑😑😑

but BTW Ethermage... how to obtain it?:P

I like the Casa Tookan, but the text in the news is a bit big on the iPhone...