- 01 December 2024 (16 messages)
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What usage errors? Screenshot pls
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Does the error say “counterparty API error” at the top of the error? If so, the message is coming direct from the counterparty api
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Ahh you’re right thats what i think it was… but it’s working fine as of the last time i checked it.
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So say someone loans me a million dollars I use a games of trump card as collateral I put the games of trump card in a dispenser that only I can retrieve the card for the payout amount of the loan (payout goes to lender addy card goes back to my addy) once the time frame agreed on ends if I hadn't payed the dispenser automatically closes and kicks the asset to the lender.
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yeah... the counterparty 2.0 version throws some random errors at times... thats why I put the "Counterparty API Error" at the top of the error message box so you can easily tell if its something in freewallet or an issue with Counterparty API 🙂
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Broadcast-Token-Naming-System/docs/actions/DISPENSER.md at master · jdogresorg/Broadcast-Token-Naming-System
Broadcast Token Naming System (BTNS) specs, docs, and tools - jdogresorg/Broadcast-Token-Naming-System
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Yep... that is already written into the BTNS spec... ALLOW_LIST and BLOCK_LIST... so you can create a list of addresses, then only those addresses can buy... if you want 🙂
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So yep.. that will be in XChain Platform 🙂
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lost a bunch of coding time having to fuck around with Counterparty 2.0 / Counterparty classic nonsense and all the wallet and explorer updates... but, back on XChain platform coding now and it should launch in early 2025 🙂
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hey hello, its working again Classic independient? is necessary configurate something on freewallet? or we need wait a little more my friend ?
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If you want to use counterparty classic you need to download freewallet.io/classic and then wait until block 873000 (prolly Tuesday morning) for replay protection to activate
- 02 December 2024 (38 messages)
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It's always been divisible, at least a few SoGs are like that
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I have issues with my laptop (rules etc) updating the freewallet software and actually using an old version 0.9.22. If I trigger a dispenser for example for buying BlockchainCD card which SOG by sending BTC to thier dispenser address, will i trigger under the new fork or under the old classic version? Many thanks for anyones help
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You should not use an old version, as counterparty 2.0 devs changed the way a bunch of stuff works, like dispensers…. So if you use an old version of freewallet to send btc to dispensers, dispensers won’t trigger on counterparty 2.0….
You should download and use freewallet classic if you want to use counterparty classic and keep triggering dispensers with normal BTC sends…. Or update to the latest version of freewallet 2.0.1 to use counterparty 2.0 -
thank you @jdogresorg, much appreciate you responding. I am actually having issues updating on this laptop so assume need to buy another laptop for it and assume I can't use current version I have at all? also can i ask, do i need to close all old dispensers now or people can still trigger those? and lastly how do i know which dispenser I am triggering when I send BTC to any wallet? Is there a way to identify. I apologise if this is already answered somewhere. I was away for a bit and came back and can't seen to find answer in the chats.
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You don’t need to close any dispensers… any dispensers that have been open previously should remain open on both counterparty classic and counterparty 2.0…
What changed was the mechanism which triggers a dispense … in counterparty classic you can send BTC to a dispenser address the same as you always have…. In counterparty 2.0 you must use a counterparty compatible wallet to send BTC to the address and the triggering mechanism has been changed from a normal BTC send to a special dispense message which can only be generated via a counterparty compatible wallet… ie, you can no longer just send BTC from any wallet.
If you’re just coming back to counterparty, I’m sorry you’re coming back to a bit of a mess…. But to answer your question, you should have dispensers open on both counterparty 2.0 and counterparty classic… and if you use counterparty 2.0 to buy from dispensers, it should also trigger the dispenser on counterparty classic.
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Freewallet.io
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You should be able to download FreeWallet and FreeWallet classic from this website👍🏻
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Thank you so much. This clarifies things a lot. My issue is that it is a work laptop so doesn't allow many changes! Let me figure out a route. and gratefully that I don't need to close any dispensers!
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Wait, so after replay protection starts of Bitcoin sent will trigger dispensers on both ledgers still?
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counterparty classic dispensers trigger normally... with any BTC send to an address.... counterparty 2.0 dispensers only trigger with the new "dispense" message... which is a custom CP message AND a BTC send to a dispenser address... so, in theory, if there is a dispener setup on both CP 2.0 and CP classic, and you use CP 2.0 to trigger a dispenser using the new "dispense" method... it should trigger both a cp 2.0 dispenser (using the dipense message) and a CP classic dispenser (using the BTC in the send)
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i'd wait until after the replay protection
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then close all your dispensers on whatever version you want... right now if you close your dispensers, it will close them on both CP classic and CP 2.0
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if you plan to use both CP classic and CP 2.0... best to generate a new wallet and start using it for cp 2.0... so your only using one set of addresses per ledger... avoids any cross-over confusion
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if you want to close your dispensers on both ledgers, now is the time to do it
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if you want to close them only on one ledger.. .wait til after replay protection is enabled at 873000
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So after replay protection is enabled create a new counterparty 2.0 address and sweep into it?
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your prolly using an old version
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make sure your using the latest version of freewallet and that you go to settings screen and click "Reset to Defaults"
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prolly just an issue with your server settings pointing to old endpoints... with the CP 2.0 ledger fork and 2 different versions of counterparty now, best to make sure your on the latest version of FreeWallet 2.0.1
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freewallet.io
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Phew
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Pretty sure you need the words
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Yep
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Nope you can import individual private keys
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in order to use freewallet, you gotta first import or generate a 12-word passphrase to get into the wallet... after that, you can import a private key and switch to that address and use it 🙂
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Sounds scary 😱
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- 03 December 2024 (35 messages)
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@LongbranchBear
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Yeah bro I read all this stuff to
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For 3 years, everday
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Whats the @ for then?
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It is "beef"
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You are Max Fudd
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Change your name
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Like Elmer, but Max
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Dispenser?
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Dispenser Dispenser
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Oh, dispensers
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Dis penser
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Good card idea
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Then stack some btc and scribble a self portrait
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Make sure to keep using your hands in the assets
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I don't get it? Like make sure to draw them, not use ai??
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You're pissing everywhere on everything
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Hundreds or even thousands of people read the dumb shit you write in these chats
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*we
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@jdogresorg previously you said I should sweep my freewallet address on 2.0.
This may be a stupid question but, can I just sweep my classic wallet address and leave 2.0 as it is.
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yes, you can sweep either one, that is fine.... as long as your using separate addresses on each platform, you should be good to go 🙂
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Thanks.
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yes
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on classic you can open dispensers on new/empty addresses... and close those same dispensers from the main address (the origin address)
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Hell yes... only thing that would be sweeter would be an xcp airdrop for the veterans of the 2020-2021 bull & 2022-present scam ponzi shitmeme bear market from hell
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Haha
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Yep, an airdrop to XCP, XDP, and BTNS GAS token holders is a part of the AirDrop plan for XCHAIN token
- 04 December 2024 (6 messages)
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Anybody have contact number for Freewallet support? Raising tickets doesn’t work
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This is a chat for freewallet.io... which is an open source wallet for Bitcoin and Counterparty... we have no "tickets"... I believe your talking about freewallet.org... an entirely different wallet... and one which is quite often called a scam wallet
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Thanks 😊
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- 06 December 2024 (13 messages)
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Hello I just uptdated to the last version of freewallet but when trying to operate I see this message. I saw this message before the update too, what can it be?
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this are my server settings
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I have seen this specs in the frrewallets docs, but want to confirm that this ones are the correct
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Reset to defaults will give you these settings if you are using Counterparty 2.0
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I tried, but changed nothing. How can I change to CP 2.0?
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Those settings look right.... and I just tested here to make sure API was up and txs generating fine... it could be your firewall or ISP is not allowing traffic to flow to the API as it should..... you might want to try getting on a VPN and trying again
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will try
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thnks!
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Hello, I would like to know how I could know whose wallet this is bc1qqt0ncm7sesdls68n22ladh2lcmxruywzsysa4f
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Not finding that address in my telegram history searches🤷🏻♂️
- 07 December 2024 (30 messages)
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I’m not sure which operating system download for free wallet desktop, I’m seeing 32 or 64 bit for windows.
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How do I close an open order. I opened an order in the wallet exchange for XCP/BTC
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Never mind I just found it in the user manual 😂
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What’s the best way to sell XCP in a free wallet. I am getting some wierd #s on the exchange like 15,750BTC for one XCP and current price $17 as well a Data tables warning about parameter 4 for row ‘0’ colum 4 pop up
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Are you using a Mac by any chance? I had similar issues with the Mac version
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Yea it’s a Mac. I just did the math properly and created a dispenser so I think I got it straightened out, it’s just strange I couldn’t seem to use the exchange properly
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Maybe I should get a cheap PC for my free wallet stuff?
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Last asset created 4 days ago?
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Yup… I’m not driving ppl to classic, and the default in freewallet is cp 2.0’still… so most activity gonna happen on cp 2.0, which is fine👍🏻
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Classic is not about having the most users, it is about a difference in values between the communities…. I could have lots of traffic on classic if I pushed it, but don’t feel that pushing my views on ppl n driving them to my preferred version of CP is the right thing to do…. Ppl who want to use classic can seek out freewallet.io/classic and use it
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Grateful for you Jdog. Legend in my book. Looking forward to xchain's future (especially a mobile wallet, hint, hint) 😉😁
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Good day to all, I Opened an existing wallet in Chrome because My laptop is not working, but the assets don't show up. But I can see some of the history.
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Which is the correct info for server settings, pls?
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I followed all the instructions to download FreeWallet desktop, using windows bit 64. I even disabled. The S mode was able to successfully launch. It entered my passphrase. Everything looks successful. My balance showed up when I went back to open it up it won’t open. Any suggestions at this point?
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a computer restart would be the easiest - sounds like FW is running in the background and your computer still thinks its "open"
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Restart worked, I dont have a vpn. Thank you for all your help!! I really appreciate it. I’m older and not as techie as you guys, but learning my way.
- 09 December 2024 (10 messages)
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Question how can I move some Bitcoin from my freewallet to cashapp.? Is that possible?
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Yes
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Look for your receive address on Cashapp
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Input that address as your destination when you send BTC from Freewallet
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Yes but it won't let me see the full address
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It should. You might also see an icon which allows you to copy that address.
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Scan the QR and you'll find the address in the URL
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I forgot how annoying they made this
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You click the QR and an additional menu should come up with details and option to copy address
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Thank you
- 11 December 2024 (20 messages)
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What would you send to a dispenser that dispenses bitcoin?
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I thought not right now?
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Noones app is a p2p bitcoin selling app
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To buy NFT for own prices
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So I put .01 btc in a dispenser for someone to put in a specific asset?
.01 btc would dispense for a TRUMPRARE
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Sounds like DEX
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Sure
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Pls anyone active ?
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Freewallet or counterparty cannot escrow bitcoin
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Dex doesn't really work for bitcoin
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The dispenser idea sounds hard to code, but idk
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It says I can’t send media
I wanna send a screenshot
I got a Toke named NOMNI in my freewallet which is sent to me by someone we’re to work on a project together
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Nomni is just another token. You could try to sell it in a dispenser but no one will ever buy it.
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So it’s useless ?
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YES, it is a pain in the ass, and you need to leave your wallet open to listen for order matches and use auto-btcpay... but you can use the DEX to buy things using BTC perfectly fine... tho dispensers is a cleaner route (and the reason they were created was because using BTC on the dex is a bit of a PITA)
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can't escrow BTC... so would need a custodian to hold the BTC and sign txs to distribute the BTC when someone sends a token to a dispenser... its not impossible, but can't be done in a trustless way.... I will have dispensers that trigger dispenses with BTC and any other token in XChain platform.... but dispensing BTC from a dispenser is problematic as it requires "trust"... something we dont really want to build into a platform
- 12 December 2024 (8 messages)
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Would i put my main address in the TX hash to send my left over pieces back after closing my dispenser?
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once your dispenser is closed - you can simply change your address to the dispenser address and send the left over pieces back normally
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just use the Address icon on the top right and go to Change Address and choose the address you have the dispenser live on - you will need some BTC on that address to send the assets back as well (and closing a dispenser will take 5 blocks for your leftover assets to be returned)
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for example this dispenser for DOCTORPEPE: https://tokenscan.io/tx/c46dfdd6619888fa35e793b5d666ac0c8281464983caccd82319d3711c7d2c62
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Awesome. Thank you.
- 14 December 2024 (2 messages)
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Any hardware (trezor) issues that you're aware of @jdogresorg? I'm attempting to update a description and clicking on the connect to trezor button in the browser isn't working.
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Issues 203 and 211 on github @jdogresorg
- 15 December 2024 (3 messages)
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got ya... yeah for Trezor i'll need to tweak some stuff so that the pre-flight check doesn't run for fee estimation.... I'll work on getting a new freewallet release out next week
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Well, these issues not allow for me to transfer my BTC to a trezor wallet?
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Transferring to trezor is fine, but prolly best to wait til next week after I confirm any issues n fix in new release
- 16 December 2024 (3 messages)
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gm got this error while i created a token
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Make sure your on the latest version and click the “reset to default” button on the server settings screen
- 17 December 2024 (6 messages)
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ill keep get this error, i have last version and also i click reset to default
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Could be your firewall or von blocking the api request…. Try getting on a von n try again
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You sure there are open dispensers on ur address? I’m working on a freewallet release today, so can check into it…. What is ur address that ur having problems with?
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thanks i’ll try later
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yes, positive. it's happening with all my dispenser addresses, so im guessing something in my settings on comp is blocking it. i was able to close the dispenser on one address using the txn hash from token scan. heres another one that has a dispenser on it but it doesnt show up in my fw display: https://cp20.tokenscan.io/address/18Y59snrHfV12zvfikw98MWLz2xGu3LrLb
- 19 December 2024 (11 messages)
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What isn’t working? Data not loading? Seems to work fine here… pls try fill reset (logout, close app, open app, enter 12-word passphrase)…. See if that helps
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I have imported the private key of a Segwit address (bc1q) to Freewallet. However, this is not reflected in the 'Imported' tab in Freewallet. Please assist, thank you.
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Did you use the correct prefix when Importing the private key?
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when importing segwit private key... make sure to import private key with p2wpkh: prefix.... ie... p2wpkh:private_key_goes_here
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No, wasn't aware of this. Many thanks for your prompt assistance, much appreciated👍 🙏
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Man I have such trouble opening FreeWallet
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Super shitty old dell maybe eh lol 😂
- 20 December 2024 (22 messages)
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well every time it opens it has to unpack the compressed components to your computer... if you have a slow/fullish hard drive, could be the problem (also, windows blows)... try a disk cleanup 🙂
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Is there a way to swap my counter party token into cash or another asset using thee FREEwallet app.
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you can setup a dispenser to sell your token for BTC... the pinned message has a FAQ that tells you how you can do that
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Just had two people by your name/account reach out to me privately
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Yeah, be careful. There’s lots of scammers who try to pretend to be me and offer fake support….
To answer your question I’m assuming that you are using the mobile version of FreeWallet, which hasn’t been updated in a few years and that you’re trying to send to a Segway address which the mobile wallet does not have support for .
You have two options you can take that same 12 word pass phrase that is in your FreeWallet mobile and enter it into Horizon wallet to log into that wallet and access the exact same addresses without the need to move any Bitcoin ….
Or you can download FreeWallet desktop and plug in your 12 Word pass phrase from FreeWallet mobile into FreeWallet desktop to access the same addresses ….. then you should be able to send to a Segway address from FreeWallet desktop to your horizon. Wallet address..
My suggestion would be to just put your 12 word pass phrase directly into horizon and save yourself the BTC transfer fee fees …. However, if you want to keep the wallet separated, or move your BTC to a Sette address which has lower fees on transactions, then a BTC send from a legacy address to a Segway address is probably what you want.
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Yup... google it... you can find it... it is the unspendablelabs.com wallet that Adam and his VC backed team are building... also why they depreceated Counterwallet and marked FreeWallet as unsafe on counterparty.io, even tho FreeWallet works perfectly fine on CP 2.0.... Driving users to their wallet as much as they can, and using their influcence as core devs to do so... but, of course, that is just my opinion 🙂
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Hey random question, but does freewallet.io have a 24 phrase pass code or is 12 phrase the only type it offers?
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just 12 word passphrase... 24 word passphrase doesn't offer any more security than 12
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Is 24 words seed safer than 12 words in terms of bruteforcing the private key
Is a 24 words seed more secure than 12 words in terms of brute forcing the private key? From the following answer I read that a private key is always "just" 128bit even when derived from 24
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Thank you for this!!!
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I havent checked it out uey
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The only reason to use Horizon is to use the "create fairmint" function they added.... But they still don't offer all the possible parameters that is available on the protocol level....
I've said before and I'll say it again I'm highly disappointed in the new devs and their team for not even quickly scanning the Freewallet user manual for functionality expectations on their new wallet.... Lacks so much we have come to use often
Don't even think there is a memo option in destroy on Horizon... Which means you couldn't even submit a fake rare (because you need to included the memo in the destroy function)....
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Yeah... tend to agree... they showed up and started making changes without really understanding the community.... and some ppl who were previously here for creativity are now more focused on profit, so they just embrace the changes of the new devs cuz they think it will pump their bags... not realizing that they are sacrificing the one thing which has always made CP unique... the community.... No other community i've seen has always been regarded as so welcoming and nice and helpful as the CP community (except the dogeparty community... lots of overlap...).... IMO, mistakes were made in the name of chasing profit and liquidity.... but, i'm biased 😛
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don't know what their motive is, but it's either gross negligence, some sort of viewpoint of "I'll just play with this protocol in my free time"... Or some sort of purposeful ignoring of the community... Guess it's not my place to speculate
Either or, it has affected me psychologically and monetarily... As you already know I think Kane said it best on that Emblem Vault space with Adam a while back but God Damn everybody who relied on XCP (in any sense of the community) has been royally fucked by people who don't rely on it all -
In my view, all the drama began when questions arose about Adam's profitable UL company and the investments involved. It seems to me that there are interests from shadow investors. Even if all the money truly belongs to Adam, it still indicates that he has a vested interest in using his profitable company.
His subsequent actions appear aimed at sidelining other developers who could provide tools to users at a lower cost than his own offerings through his wallet. This makes sense to me after studying and testing his wallet.
I hate to say it, but I cannot currently categorize CP as decentralized because it appears to be driven by the intentions of a single developer. He has repeatedly shown that working with the community is a challenge for him. Even as a less experienced developer, I see that refusing to use the testnet properly before implementing new features demonstrates a lack of professionalism, or it may suggest intentions that differ from what has been communicated to the public. -
Hey Jdog, what type of wallet would you consider freewallet...would you say it's a hotwallet?
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yes, I think so.... def not a "cold wallet" as the point of the wallet is to make it easy to use the wallet... tho, you can use Trezor hardware wallet with it
- 21 December 2024 (26 messages)
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why we need new featurezs ?
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It’s not hidden! Before you can even use the wallet, a screen pops up that tells you that there’s an automatic donation system that it’s not mandatory and points you exactly where to turn it off…. You can’t even proceed to access the wallet until you click. I have read and understand the above….
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but I do appreciate your viewpoint… and I encourage you to go to the setting screen and disable donations if you don’t feel comfortable making them👍🏻
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yeah, I did asking for donations for many years... never amounted to many donations... and not wealthy... I spend most of my funds just to cover my bills, keep the servers running, and pay my staff... IMO everyone deserves to get paid for their work... I did the "work on CP as a hobby" thing for 7-8 years before I started collecting donations.... I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint tho... if you think there is any way to make it more clear, short of turning off automatic donations by default, happy to hear any ideas you have 🙂
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It is, you have to not want to turn off or leave on before you can proceed using the wallet. If you're donating you chose to. Or you just clicked through, also a choice
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Why haven't you bought my danks?
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cause you sned them to me for free
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Checking to see if you were able to see if any issues with trezor, if so were they fixed?
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What are you trying to accomplish with the Trezor @Metamorphosis62. I've got all my counterparty assets on one. Perhaps I can help
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The fee estimation portion needs to be reworked a bit to work with the trezor…. This week got away from me… but I’ll work on this Monday of next week.. I’ll put out a release before Christmas
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Thank you!
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Hello I was asking about nomni about a year ago no one seemed to say it there was no value and had to try to put it up for sale. I tried that nothing happened but now somebody just sold 22 days ago, 4 months ago and I am begging you guys to help me. I have about 114k in nomni. Thank you at least explain what maybe I am doing wrong? My coin is in free wallet. Is there something specific he traded it for I don’t know about?
- 22 December 2024 (14 messages)
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Dispensers is people trying to sell nomni for btc….. dispenses is people actually paying BTC to buy nomni….
What you saw 22 days ago, was someone else trying to sell their worthless tokens …. If you click on the dispenses tab, you can see that no one has actually paid any bitcoin or wanted to buy nomni for over two years…
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I can prolly add a dark mode next week
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You can now hold your RARE PEPE'S on Trezor!
Cold Storage support now with RARE PEPE's!
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Thanks. I can't get my test token send to show up on my trezor. Does you're oplan private session help with this?
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in freewallet, switch to the trezor address and you should be able to see any tokens on that address
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I finally figured that out, but when your on trezor suite, can you see the image of a token?
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no, you will not be able to see the token within Trezor suite until Trezor works on integrating Counterparty tokens into their platform. For now you will have to use FreeWallet or tokenscan.io to view your address balances and images
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Thanks
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- 23 December 2024 (4 messages)
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Hey guys my wife’s max will not let her open FreeWallet download file ?
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Ooop found it open anyway right !
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Will get that fixed at some point this year…. It’s super annoying…. Just need to make some time to research how to sign the app via apples tools…. Did it a few years ago, always a pain, but will do it in 2025
- 24 December 2024 (19 messages)
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Hi this time Jdog it wasn’t me
I think divisible tokens in multi send it’s doing something odd
I sent 6 and I typed ,6
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you to need to type the full amount - in this circumstance you have to type 6.00000000 .... for divisible tokens you are required to put all the decimals - FW wont do it for you
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All the zeros
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Sounds like a yes 🙌 haha
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Oh haha all the zeros lol was for the multisend hahaha I get it Thanks
I always look at you and Jogs GitHub things
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Okay This one actually made me smarter haha so well put together it’s like it was made for guys like me to read haha it probably was thanks 🙏🏼
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Okay so can we make a deal on one or a few of these bad boys !!
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CSGOSKIN
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you’ll take your eye out !
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learning even just a few things about how to use Counterparty, let alone Bitcoin took me many years...
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Right on swap cards or DMs ?! Do this
- 25 December 2024 (1 messages)
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- 26 December 2024 (24 messages)
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Xcp supply drying up.... anyone got any for sale?
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I’ll able to check with a few large holders in a couple hours. (edited)
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What they going for these days?
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Yep last dispense at 11000 sat (~$10.55)
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Thinking I should update tokenscan price to be driven by last BTC sale price for last 500 xcp sold… vs driven by dex-trade price which can fluctuate wildly… could lookup last 500 xcp sold for btc via dispensers n dex orders n price would be the average sale price across those last 500 xcp…. That sound like a fair way to determine price? 500 xcp? 100 xcp? Open to feedback
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Are the new atomic swap prices something that is protocol wide? Or is the price history just going to show the record on Horizon exchange or for instance Fairmints website when they offer atomic swaps...
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utxo support (the building block for atomic swaps) has been added protocol-wide but horizon's atomic swaps are platform-specific
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I get that. But will the price history at what the atomic swap sold for be public too?
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swaps sales history is displayed right on the horizon market homepage (at the bottom)
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okay now I understand your question!
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but I have no idea lol
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Someone will have to make an Explorer to compare prices across markets i guess?
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lol Dan Anderson prob done the most work with price history on XCP dot io (post Al with pepe dot wtf)...
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That's what it is. Centralized markets make more sense according to Adam
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ugh If new users are unaware of previous selling prices for xcp assets I don't think you'll see much interest imo.... Xcp dot io really conglomerates all the data the best so far
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That's pretty much my thought too
- 27 December 2024 (31 messages)
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afaik its not implemented this way, yes you can attach assets to utxos with the CP node but we cannot list with the CP node to the ledger for all like orders, this happens at the horizon servers
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sounds decentralized (sarcasm!)
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so... HORIZON specific... not something easily pullable via a standardized protocol level API.
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really too bad this was not done in a decentralized way vs a walled garden where Horizon can extract funds... but, this is what happens when you have a "for-profit" company driving development of a "decentralized" protocol.... forwarding my thoughts here for those who missed it in main cp channel
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Hi, all! I'm thrilled to announce the release of the new Horizon suite: https://horizon.market
This version of Horizon includes:
* Horizon Market: a PSBT marketplace for trustless atomic swaps between Counterparty assets and Bitcoin.
* An updated Horizon Explorer, which includes a lot of nice UI improvements for things like network stats and asset markets, and new workflows for purchases.
* A Horizon Wallet Chrome extension to work seamlessly with the market: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/horizon-wallet/bnmgkjlaommgappfckljlelgahnbngme?authuser=0&hl=en
* An updated Web Wallet: wallet.unspendablelabs.com
We're really excited about this release and would love your feedback. The workflows associated with atomic swaps are a bit unintuitive, so we've provided instructions on how to post and purchase listings on Horizon Market, which you can find here: horizonmarketinstructions.notion.site
Our atomic swaps market is priced differently some other PSBT marketplaces: you create an account and purchase either credits or an unlimited monthly subscription in order to post signed PSBTs to sell Counterparty assets on the orderbook. There are no fees and no account associated with purchasing assets listed on the market.
We've started an FAQ, which we will continue to add to and which you can find here: horizonmarketfaq.notion.site
We’ll provide updates in this Telegram channel and on the new Horizon Twitter account: https://x.com/hznmarket
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So rather than building an api to store PSBTs swaps in counterparty (similar to how orders and dispensers are done), they choose to build a marketplace site n charge for listings vs doing it in a truly decentralized and trustless way where they charge/destroy some XCP for a listing fee (benefiting all xcp holders vs just benefitting Horizon)
Could have had a marketplace API at a protocol level where any wallet could create a PSBT swap n advertise it, and any wallets/sites/marketplaces could have pulled a list of open trades n listed them, a truly fair/open marketplace where anyone could participate, instead of a walled off marketplace to drive traffic / profit to Horizon.🤷🏻♂️
And one wonders why I was concerned about them getting VC funding would how drive their CP development towards profit for their company/products and not what’s best for the CP community (decentralization)
Of course, just my opinion…. Fine with them building stuff, but this could have/should have been built in a trustless way which benefitted the xcp community and holders, not just in a way that requires ppl to trust horizon and only benefits them financially🤷🏻♂️ -
My focus in xchain platform is on cross-chain swaps... still not sold on the UTXO binding/atomic swap model... but if/when I ever add atomic swaps to XChain platform... best believe I will do it in a way where it is easy for ANYONE to pull a list of potential swaps and allow ANY marketplace/wallet to participate in advertising those swaps..... I believe that the best products are built when there is an even playing field and the product has to excel in features vs limiting functionality and building walled gardens... again, just my opinion
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Fuck ya is all I got !!!! 🚀🔥
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Do you think it's time to move the xcp decimal point over 2 points to increase liquidity supply from 2.4mill to 240mill?
public poll
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👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 75%
@DefinitelyN0tMe, @MachineUser, @LongbranchBear
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@TitaniumP
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Pretty funny conversation…. It’s clear some ppl really only care about “number go up, we get rich”…. Lolol… oh xcer… “vote yes if you want to be rich”… FML bro🤷🏻♂️
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I think the change will be pushed through anyway…. Just that a poll on telegram was a bad idea cuz it gives more ppl a vote than the handful of devs who comment on github….
Imo cp 2.0 is driven by the devs now n not really community driven🤷🏻♂️ even objecting on github does no real good… if the core devs wanna do something, they do, even if its controversial (changing dispensers, disabling p2sh, etc)….. objecting on GitHub mostly gets ignored….. which I think is kinda engineered that way…. Driving dev n conversations away from community driven n keeping them mostly behind closed doors (GitHub devs only)…. Makes it much easier to push changes forward… “you didn’t object in the right place” or “you objected but your in the minority because a couple other ppl said they felt the change was good”…. Or in extreme cases “we HAVE to make this change because it’s a ‘scary sounding misleading security issue’”
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Was more a joke, but I don’t know why number go up a bad thing
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I don’t think it was meant as a joke, as you said it multiple times….. more supply doesn’t necessarily translate to higher market cap…. Pretty sure you’ll get your way in the long run, devs just gonna reframe it as “not increasing the supply, just changing dollars to cents”….. that narrative already mentioned by Adam a few times….. imo it’s a silly argument “Bitcoin isn’t changing its supply, just going from 21 million to 210 million”🤷🏻♂️😜
But like I said, I think your preferred change will be pushed through… just a bit tougher now that Ryanson (*cough*Duncan*cough*) fucked up n made the job of changing it a bit more difficult with public with a poll….which shows no desire for the change…. But imo the change will happen anyway🤷🏻♂️ -
Time will tell the tale I think…. Either way, still holding my 1% of the supply… wether that’s 26,000 or 2,600,000😜
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I would assume you hope to get Xchain on sites like Coinimarketcap and Coingecko. Maybe consider XCP-classic listings at the same time.
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My primary focus is on building the platform and airdropping the X chain supply and allowing people to mint the xchain supply…. And having the price be driven by dispensers in orders and some other fun features that we have planned…. I think centralized exchanges are good for pumping price, but that’s not a motivation of mine with Xchain platform at this time…. When something truly takes off, the exchanges want to participate and do listings and reach out…. Versus chasing down listings and paying for them…
As the guy who spent over a year doing exchange listings for counterparty, we saw very little value added to the platform with the exchange listings, and in fact, now it is more of a hindrance having the exchange listing where just a little bit of liquidity on a centralized exchange can move the price up and down so easily.
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I think more usage on the platform and sticking to the ethos that counterparty has had from the beginning of doing things in a truly fair and decentralized way is what will drive the price up….. not printing more supply, even if it’s distributed via a stock split type mindset, or having 15 to 20 different NFT market places all segmented off from one another and framing that as decentralized…. At the end of the day, I feel more trust is being built into counterparty than it should be, and the protocol should always strive to do things in 100% trustless and fair way, and not be motivated in any way by profit…. The profit should always be focused on the end users and how to provide them with tools where they are able to sell directly and do things in a peer-to-peer manner with no third parties or centralization or trust required.
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see you in Jan :)
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- 28 December 2024 (140 messages)
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Same
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ALL I WANTED FOR CHRISTMAS WAS $XCP HAHA
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You’re talking about freewallet.org, a closed source wallet…. Freewallet.io is what this chat is for, n it never has any access to your funds, which is how I know your not talking about freewallet.io when u say “freezing account”…. No way to do that in freewallet.io….. but it happens on freewallet.org (different wallet)
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Huh?
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Ok, thank you
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Shut up!
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Get the hell out of here
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The hell with it
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bitch
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Son of a gun😂😂
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Time for you to get sober, nice to see you so happy again
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U got nothing better to do, chill ffs
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U sound off your head
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I've been doing nothing, just woke up to this nonsense
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Me now?
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Who said that?
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Listen bum boy, u ain't no big boss man, ur a little piney 12 year old, don't threaten me
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I said this, nothing to else
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U talk big, threatening everyone, but u just a lil kid, no muscle, I would woop ur ass irl
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also money grift from your shitty token can’t buy loyalty FYI
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See you again in 6 months when u decide to act big again off your head, seems a pattern
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Go on then
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Didn't know my name was darman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Show me where I threatened you, that was your claim.
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Don't get my monkey up, to me that sounds like don't get me pissed off, but I don't know that slang word
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Doesn't sound like anyone threatened you, think u just paranoid
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I repeat, I never threatened anybody, sounds like no one threatened you, the only threats I see is from you, yet again
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I think you made your own interpretation, but let's just say someone did threaten you, that makes it OK to threaten me?
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It seems that someone gained access to his PC, and now he is trying to blame someone from this chat. However, his narrative and behavior are very aggressive. Look, shit happens, but when you try to attack random people afterwards, it only makes matters worse and shows that you are not in a state that others can take seriously.
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So aggressive attacks without any logic ... Man , pls , go play fifa and smoke shisha somewhere. Chill . This chat is not about your paranoia and drug/alcohol problems.
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He said don't get my monkey up, which means don't piss me off, after u told him to die
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Then u threatened everybody
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Yes, it was like that
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One day you will make threats to the wrong person
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You told him to die before he said anything, mayby think about that
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Why do addicted alcoholic use this chat to express their struggles? Please stop this behavior.
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After that, you even talked about God or something while being drunk and on drugs. That's a new way to show your schizophrenia. Alah see that ;)
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But sounds like u calming down, which is good, don't be the idiot in the chat, hope u haven't been hacked and u protect your stuff
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everyone has right to go mad. Everyone deserves understanding.
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I thought it meant don't give him a boner.. 🤔🍿👀
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that is not best way to save passwords, keys and etc. btw . Try using coldwallet also (ledger, trezor and etc.) - this shit solves many issues with security
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oh, good to know
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how it can be?
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anyway, must clean the PC , delete whole OS , reinstall all
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wow, It can be attack throught wi-fi even
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your paranoia makes sense , but try to focus on wallets you have something in and send to a new wallets. I am strongly suggest using cold wallets btw
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It also means, for me, that what you said may just be a misunderstanding.
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Chill bro . Shit happens
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/dhs-cisa-panic-chinese-penetration-telecommunication-companies/
DHS CISA in a Panic Over Chinese Penetration of Telecommunication CompaniesDHS CISA in a Panic Over Chinese Penetration of Telecommunication Companies | The Gateway Pundit | by John MillsAs concerns grow over Chinese infiltration of telecommunications companies, DHS CISA's response reveals critical implications for national security. Discover the full impact of these developments.
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If you really believe you have been compromised then your time would best be served by moving funds to new addresses (perhaps generated offline) before they are moved by a third party.
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Thieves are everywhere.
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It's just Telegram
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Relax
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Focus on the result you want for the future and act
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What are you drinking sir?
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Oh yah Ive been working and stuff aswell
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"hey at least we're building" say the thieves
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The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is `42`.Phrases from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
explanation of phrases from the book by Douglas Adams
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in other more technical news i think TokenScan is having an issue with some dispensers on display atm
ex: https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/0b123f3ed2ebae40af17cadbaef3f319b8e994c01c9d509fdd293e61ce62ca89
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/0b123f3ed2ebae40af17cadbaef3f319b8e994c01c9d509fdd293e61ce62ca89 -
HAHA WHAT DID I MISS
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My balances, dispenser lists and XCP DEX listings look fine to me
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- 29 December 2024 (3 messages)
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Could be related to me not being in the latest version of cp 2.0… will dig into it next week…. With my son now
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Sheesh I leave the room alone for a few days n the natives get into fights… not deleting stuff now but pls control yourself ppl…. Might have to do admin shit in da future
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TY fren, I just opened FW & things seem to be back to normal today 👍👍