did the new version add the option to disable "use unconfirmed utxos?", if so where is it?
- just tested a easyasset description on a subasset again with the new vers with same effective fee rate issue
- 01 March 2024 (29 messages)
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only thing in this new version is a fix for an issue with counting txs in the ADS... no fee adjustments... same exact fee estimation as last release... -
and "effective fee rate" is related to your previous txs
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"fee rate" is what wallet shows... no way to calculate "effective fee rate" without knowing all the previous pending txs, their fees, etc
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when I do a tx in freewallet and it says 21 sats/vb... that is waht it is showing in the tx.
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ADS stands for the optional Automatic Donation System (ADS) that is included in freewallet to help fund development and server operating expenses.
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FYI.. if you use freewallet, you had to have seen and agreed to this screen
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I dont mind if they don't 🙂
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mentioned before...
a common artist or user after many tx's on a single address (especially when using older versions of FW) will have to consolidate their UTXO's and many of us use Electrum to do so....... but even if they use Electrum and consolidate all the tx's that can be seen by the block explorers and seen by electrum and verifying they are working with 1 input on electrum as well as block explorers.,,
using freewallet to do asset description changes seems to be the only case a user will run into this effective fee rate issue. I've seen Sasha, Degenna, Porkchop just to name a few that fun into this frequently (and VERY recently with new version)....
and mentioned before you said using Electrum will not be good enough and might have to use a node to get all those super low (unseen on block explorers and electrum) unconfirmed tx's to consolidate....
since most users wont be running a node anytime soon... could getting the feature you mentioned that will enable the user to disable "use unconfirmed utxo's"' for this specific purpose when using the longform easy asset descriptions?
it is very very common artists broadcast this specific tx and have it be too low of a fee rate because of how many possible failed attempts have happened before on their address from previous versions.... Maybe a checkbox on Asset Description popup? or a setting in the settings somewhere? -
the seeing these low unconfirmed tx's in a node vs electrum is noted here...
at the moment even when a user see's 1 input - they have to raise the fee rate for the next broadcast attempt by a manner of percentage after the first failed attempt (and doing the math from that) -
yeah... I can add that "confirmed utxos" option in freewallet... it'll still be defaulted to on, but not tough to add... will work on it now
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maybe just wrap it into this release 😛
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FYI... I just updated the binaries in the release with this "UTXO Usage" option 🙂
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just consolidated my UTXO's with Electrum and tried again with the "Only Confirmed" option and still had the same effective fee rate issue :(
will test more... for anyone who is interested - in my experience consolidating UTXO's with Electrum will also auto CPFP the previous unconfirmed tx... so anybody in my position can do that to clean up the tx with too small an effective fee rate -
ill test it on a new blank address in a bit
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Werkin it out in typical counterparty fashion. Well done frens. Keep it up. Yer doin the good lord Satoshi’s werk. -
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new update available, how critical is it? :) -
Not a critical update…. Just fixing a minor issue in ADS and added the ability to choose if you want to use confirmed or unconfirmed UTXOs👍🏻
- 02 March 2024 (6 messages)
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Thank @subterranean1 !
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- 03 March 2024 (17 messages)
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if this is a Freewallet issue with the desktop version lets get it published as an issue on the Github as well... have you tried downgrading to versions prior to see if the issue persists?
https://github.com/jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop/issuesIssues · jdogresorg/freewallet-desktopDesktop wallet for Win/Mac/Linux which supports Bitcoin and Counterparty - Issues · jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop
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Question(that i think i know the answer to)
If i set up two dispensers using the same address, but each dispenser requires a diff. amount of BTC in order to dispense
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or am i somehow risking loss
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for example.
dispenser A. requires .5 BTC
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I set this up awhile back to play with and all one needs to do is pay the fee once and it will dispense all 14 assets because they are all the same price
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Ah yes. That’s the scenario I forgot.
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yo Gmoney... i been meaning to reach out to you for trades for ages... lol. guess who picked up 3 x of your BTCTRUCKERS recently....kek...meeee... anyway.... i am missing your other grail. and could do with some swaps/trades as i am pretty fucking broke rn. let me know if you up for swapping for your we the pepe card?? fakes is not really known for political satire or conspiracy cards... but these two hit the nail on the head for me!!
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ya man thank you
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thats how i set up my dispensers,a bunch in one address,you buy the expensive one you get em all,no one has figured that out yet it seems -
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- 04 March 2024 (29 messages)
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what is written in the FAQ still applies even though you received it in this situation:
"At the moment on a protocol level, Wrapped Segwit Addresses (or addresses beginning with "3") are supported by Counterparty but Freewallet does not support signing those transactions at this time.
Another developer by the name of JP Janssen (JPJA) had devloped an OP_Return builder for Wrapped Segwit addresses, but at the moment this is experimental and it is recommended to get into contact with JPJA to better help experiment with the process.
If you find yourself in a situation that an XCP asset has been sent to a Wrapped Segwit Address and you are looking to access this token, it would be best at this time to wait until a further release of Freewallet that supports Wrapped Segwit Addresses so they can be used for all Counterparty functions." -
the tool mentioned is here: https://jpja.github.io/Electrum-Counterparty/
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and he has been doing some really cool stuff with building xcp txs with Electrum... which is entirely possible to do
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but just takes a bit of technical knowledge and i havent tested it myself
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as for waiting for the protocol to upgrade and then to have Freewallet support it.... we will have to wait for future protocol releases from the XCP team
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I wouldn't be suprised if it's in here somewhere: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/issuesIssues · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib
Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib development by creating an account on GitHub.
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but TLDR - either you try to manually broadcast the token out with JPJA's builder or wait for a future time to do it in a more "ease of use" way when it is supported by wallets
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you would use it because you own the address the token is on
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but if its not in a hurry id just wait for an update in the future
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they are safe there for the moment - since its your address you control :)
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might be best to get some knowledge on how to use Electrum first before testing it
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Electrum is a beautiful wallet - is the best for extremely technical BTC stuff
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https://electrum.org/ is the place to start - they have really deep documentation - but the knowledge will help for ages into the future especially if you see yourself working with intricate bitcoin operations like counterpartyElectrum Bitcoin Wallet
Electrum Bitcoin Wallet.
- 05 March 2024 (4 messages)
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has saved my a** a few times for sure -
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this is great news JPJA is a legend and a scholar
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Don’t forget gentleman
- 06 March 2024 (57 messages)
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hello -
how long is the mint proses now days..?
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i have mintted mine last two day
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I'm trying to buy off the dex using BTC. I chose the option to leave the wallet open. My first transaction went through, and it's now pending. However, another block has been found and no 2nd transaction has occurred. -
In the past, I've been able to successfully buy things using BTCPay, but I was always prompted to clicked to sign for the 2nd tx
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This time, I thought it would do it automatically, but I do not see it happening. I cannot find a way to make it happen either within the wallet
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There are no pending transactions from my wallet or going to the seller's wallet.
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my testing for this function is mostly explained in this post: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/discussions/96#discussioncomment-625452
I have seen the "auto-btc pay" option pop up infrequently - so i am wondering if you have seen this option before in your experience
which version are you using? and which version were you using when it worked? same one?Lower Requirement to Trigger BTCpay Order Match from 0.001 BTC to Something Lower · CounterpartyXCP/cips · Discussion #96Below is a test process I used, along with help from @Blockjack8 and @al_fernandz to try to use the BTCpay function using Freewallet v0.9.23 and we found orders were not matching with BTC orders un...
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i write about it more here too: https://gist.github.com/davestaxcp/1e2cc086a13c9a2d045876852b57e5be#understanding-btcpay-and-the-btctoken-on-the-dexFreewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5
Freewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
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but the "auto-btc" pay popup is something that may need an "on and off" setting in the settings UI in the future to make sure it is enabled.,..... if it was enabled i wonder if its a wallet update issue.... if its not enabled i wonder if and how that might happen to change
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popped this into an issue (more of an idea, but could be seen as an issue on the UI side of things) - so it can reviewed by jdog: https://github.com/jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop/issues/193Creating an "auto-btcpay" button in the settings · Issue #193 · jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop
i think it might be incredibly useful for a user to not only be able to choose when or when not to use the "auto-btc pay" function but be able to verify if it is "on" when they ...
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my dispensers disappeared from the list a day or two ago, but they still show up elsewhere like xchain -
0.9.28 - I haven't tried it for a few years. In the past, I do not remember having the drop down box to choose between leaving the wallet open or doing it manually.
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I guess I'll try again in 15 blocks or so and choose to do it manually. I'll report back if I get it to work.
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i remember this too
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try a restart of the wallet, or a restart of your computer - if it shows on xchain its still there... just the wallet not showing the data
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figures, now it shows up lol, I had restarted it a few times before this time too
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there is also a limit to how many times you can ping the api
which means if you refresh alot it will not show for a minute or two -
xchain blocks you for a minute if you make too many requests
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ahh will keep that in mind, thanks
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yeah was implemented recently due to api overload a few months ago
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but patience and a restart helps a ton
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requests per day or hour? I'll just have to check less regardless
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its per minute - i think limit is 10
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but im not sure - never was an issue for me
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ahh, I'm not that impatient 😅
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though i have clicked fast on xchain and had it rate limit me
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you can always just check on xchain - its pulling from the same data :)
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then again it's possible I've done it a few times checking several addresses
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Tried again with the different method - I'm not getting any pop ups or any way that I can find to complete this trade
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go ahead and comment on this issue with your process and version @c0rnh0li0 ..... maybe downgrading versions might help...
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what different method did you use?
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When initiating the order, there is a drop down menu with 2 options - autopay or manual
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I expected the autopay to just do it as long as I kept my computer on and wallet open, but that did not happen
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I expected a pop up to prompt me to sign the transaction once my tx confirmed, but that did not happen
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try it out a bit on testnet... if your able to produce a step by step confirmation that its not working, and log it into an issue, i'll take a look at it when I have some time... AFAIK BTCpay and Auto-BTCpay should be working.... something new I guess COULD have broken the functionality, but none of the updates jump out at me as something that would effect Auto-BTCpay.... being able to test, find a reproducible test case to document the issue with screenshots and such... would go a long way towards helping track down any issue
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incredibly busy now with about 5 different projects... so not much spare time to make wallet updates unless necessary... github issue with testnet test case will help prove there is issue and elevate it up my priority list
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If you have a moment to send me testnet BTC, I'd try to hammer this down better: mq1esA5ruEZiEhy81j7aNnFiytyv9t2RKw
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sure thing.. sec
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https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/67ebe1ed7a2f515289a851b7774bb9c4b618b9e095aa87094c04b3d7b16361f8Blockstream Block Explorer
Blockstream Explorer is an open source block explorer providing detailed blockchain data across Bitcoin, Testnet, and Liquid. Supports Tor and tracking-free.
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0.10 tBTC headed ur way sir 🙂
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is there currently an issue opening dispensers using freewallet?
tried to open one and see confirmed txns yet it doesn not appear as a dispenser in the wallet or on xchain -
no errors and i see the txn elsewhere
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also no sign of anying on xcp.dev
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mine too
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today is the 4th day
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oh really - so what happened @kin ?
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I dont really too.. I tot there is no more issue after the upgrading.
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The think that we can do is to wait..
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has anyone else commented, are dispensers not created or we dont know
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Last year yes.. alot of comment regarding this .. but this year only me and you.
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so far
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strange, ok.
i'd imagine if this were more widespread others would comment. i'm going to keep watching my wallets to see what happens.
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nope..still no dispensers for my new darthkek.. poor me
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keeppp on waiting toooo
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sorry for my english fam
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English is fine
:) - 07 March 2024 (19 messages)
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@jdogresorg (not urgent)
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I’m not aware of any issues at the moment…. All that FreeWallet does is make an API request to api.counterparty.io to generate the transaction and then signs and broadcast it in the wallet….. so if you’re having issues with dispensers, you should be talking to the counterparty developers about your issue.
FreeWallet uses counterparty API to generate all of its transactions , if some transactions it is generating, are no longer being recognized by counterparty as dispensers, then that is absolutely something you should bring up with the developers.. however, I’m not aware of any issues currently -
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Aware - weird / interesting
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can you post the tx links for this issue?
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what is the tx link for the dispenser? it could have gone back to the origin address and not the source address similar to what happened here earlier
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i resolved the issue by updgrading to the latest version of freewallet (unclear if that did anything or it was a coincidence - i was running the previous version prior to updating)
Here is the txn where i created the dispenser and nothing happened
https://mempool.space/tx/2a4bf693d673effd7cf9b41a1d14eabbb1cfb54fee53fc489f5ace495414a362Bitcoin Transaction: 2a4bf693d673effd7cf9b41a1d14eabbb1cfb54fee53fc489f5ace495414a362Explore the full Bitcoin ecosystem with mempool.space
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i close the dispenser from source address
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just checked and it back in source address
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it left, check the debits tab on ur address... went from your source address into the dispenser... maybe balance was not updated on xchain, but if that is the case (would need screenshot with timestamp to prove), would just be display issue on xchain explorer.... not issue with CP... CP has sanity checks in place to prevent that type of thing 🙂
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From what i can see - the asset (pepegun) left once (today - once i installed a new version of freewallet and created the dispenser)
Yesterday (txn i linked above) i'm pretty sure the asset never level, I watched and watched and refreshed and refreshed for about an hour. I saw the txn confirm in mempool.space but saw nothing in freewallet or xchain -
if it left the wallet yesterday, how did it come back
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also - i saw nothing when checking xcp.dev
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interesting - showing as unconfirmed on xcp.io..... even though the tx is confirmed... and it was an OP_RETURN function.... but the block explorers arent counting it as an xcp tx
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this one
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how previous a version? like many versions old?
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is there a way to manually check the OP_RETURN data in that tx and decode what it might 'say' to the counterparty node?
- 08 March 2024 (26 messages)
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I try to keep up to date so it was either the previous version or one just before that - either way a relatively recent version
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who were you talking to?
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He was answering questions to somebody…. Then that person deleted their message history… making it look like he’s talking to himself😜
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no good deed goes unpunished🤷🏻♂️😜
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- 09 March 2024 (45 messages)
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the way i speed it up is to import the private key of the address into the Electrum wallet and then send all of the remaining btc on the address to yourself (send the btc to the same address it is in)
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which is this wallet: https://electrum.org/Electrum Bitcoin Wallet
Electrum Bitcoin Wallet.
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this will create a Child Pays for Parent transaction.... make sure the fees on this new Electrum transaction not only cover itself but also the transaction prior - aka if the mempool says 20 sat/vb - set it at at least 40 sat/vb
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And use Electrum
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After all of this is done upgrade to recent FW release :)
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Mempool.space should show the new tx as a cpfp... Report back and how it went for you.... I use this method when my mint tx's get stuck for too low of a fee
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that specific address will have an address specific private key
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NO
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Freewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5
Freewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
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each address in your freewallet has an address specific private key (different than a seed phrase)
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when creating the wallet on Electrum you choose "import private key"
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never share your private key with anybody
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it is the "password" for that address
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and this is an entirely different function.... i would recommend reading this whole user manual to understand the difference:
https://gist.github.com/davestaxcp/1e2cc086a13c9a2d045876852b57e5be#freewallet-faq-2023-v0923---write-up---draft-5Freewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5Freewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
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this is how you access the private key
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when opening electrum you create a new wallet
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I always struggled with this concept too until I read somewhere that private key = 1 address. Seed phrase = unlimited addresses. This clicked in my brain.
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and then select import bitcoin addresses or private keys
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the most stable version is the most recent which is 0.9.29
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Yes… if you’re buying something with BTC… check that auto BTC payback, and then leave your wallet open…. The wallet needs to be left open in order to monitor for order matches once in order matches detected then the BTC pay transaction is sent within 20 blocks automatically to confirm the order before it expires.
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🔖,
Duly. - 10 March 2024 (14 messages)
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You should be able to run it locally by cloning the GitHub repo y and then running npm install, and then loading the index.html page and a browser…..
The script is only to be used if you’re trying to build binaries of the Wallet -
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Hello, I'm trying to import a wallet key but freewallet is saying I have to unlock my wallet. I created the password and have successfully entered several times all resulting in a response saying it's unlocked. Alas, it will not. I try to import and it errors with "I have to unlock". Anything I am missing? - 11 March 2024 (16 messages)
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this was an issue commonly mentioned with an older version of freewallet.... upgrade to the latest version which is 0.9.29
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i havent tested this, but Freewallet should still pop-up the notification of the BTCpay function while the wallet is still locked..... As for the computer being on screensaver and having it "stop the screensaver" so you see it ........ is a big "I Dont Know" from me... I would have to test it
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no
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yes, I uninstalled the old one. I'm running 0.9.29. same results. I had problems with an older version where it would auto lock after 15 minutes but I could unlock it as needed.
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ok. the way the issue was resolved before was to entirely logout of using the upper right hand corner "logout" button..... just make sure you have your 12 word phrase backed up because you will need to enter it again (this will reset your wallet entirely)
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very strange how this old issue persists into new versions....
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by the way the only way to import a "seed phrase" which is a 12 word key.... is to reset the wallet anyway.... the way to import specific "private keys" is a different function and process
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Luckily I had it down from long ago. It worked btw. Thanks!
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Last question.... For anyone. What do you need to sweep a wallet? Does it require both BTC and xcp? I have a few wallets to sweep (pepe flyers) into my main account and I want to just dedicate some time to it and make the process as efficient as possible.
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It will need enough BTC to cover the fees as well as 0.5 xcp. Check pinned user manual for more specific info on how
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1XCP=1BTC -
Counterparty did not hold a crowdsale or ICO, but did issue XCP, about six months after Omni in January 2014, to the bitcoin address 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr.
2130 bitcoins were received and then subsequently burned and destroyed using a technique called proof-of-burn to avoid pre-mining. The terms of the swap were that one bitcoin burnt would garner between 1000 and 1500 XCP, as stated by Counterparty on bitcointalk -
love the history mate, but this chat is for Freewallet discussion and wallet troubleshooting.... please post in the Counterparty Chat instead :)
- 14 March 2024 (14 messages)
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hmm we got an issue with the BTCpay pair for RAREPEPE/BTC... on xchain it shows as one whole token (and order should have theoretically matched with info shown on xchain):
https://xchain.io/market/RAREPEPE/BTC
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hrm... strange... maybe cuz no actual rarepepe/BTC trades have ever taken place before, so market doesn't exist yet... not exactly sure... will dig into it when I have some time.
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also when i look at it in FW the other way (reversing the pair) I see it as whole numbers:
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if you could please create a github issue for this, including links to BOTH the buy and sell orders, would be greatly appreciated.... I do see the same behavior in freewallet here... prolly lingering issue with determining asset divisibility correctly.
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strange enough I cannot figure out how to find the 'buy rarepepe' tx.... the only way to find the sell tx was to click from https://pepe.wtf/asset/RAREPEPERAREPEPE | Pepe.wtf
Discover the universe of Rare Pepes in Pepe.wtf
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no where to click on xchain to see the buy tx
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so thats the "selling the rarepepe for btc" tx.... I cannot click through to find the "selling the btc for rarepepe" tx
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which is showing in the wallet and on xchain... but isn't the one with the weird 'fractional' issue
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im so tired but ill write it up with the info i have then go to sleep
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UI issue with BTC pay on the RAREPEPE/BTC pair · Issue #194 · jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop
when looking at the BTC/RAREPEPE BTCpay pair on Freewallet a strange issue is showing up when viewing the orders for BTC/RAREPEPE in FW the UI is showing: where the seller of the rarepepe apparentl...
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I was trying to test out the dex btc buying, as well - 15 March 2024 (11 messages)
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Is there something special you need to do in order to match the order, instead of creating a separate order instead?
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If using BTC, you'll need to leave the wallet open, for all the magic to happen
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use the Desktop Version instead, and use a btc block explorer to look up your address balance - what a btc block explorer says is the immutable truth
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freewallet down?
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mine hasnt updated in 34 mins and xchain wont load
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xchain is up fine.. sounds like an issue on your end... maybe try a vpn
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yeah must be my internet service,ok i remember we had a power outage a few hours ago
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need a reboot
- 16 March 2024 (36 messages)
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Jdog is there a way to create dispensers for numeric tokens using Freewallet? - the Create Dispenser function only lets you use a dropdown menu that doesnt include numerics in the most recent version
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There are other functions you can simply input the Numeric Token name (such as MPMA) and the xcp protocol functions can still be done with FW - but not the dispenser function
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That functionality hasn’t changed in the wallet in a long time… I believe the only place you were ever able to manually edit. The asset directly was in sends and issuances.
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gotchya i must have remembered the UI wrong.... is there any downside to giving users the freedom to do all functions included in FW with numeric assets despite not showing them on xchain?
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If the community wants numerics added back to XChain abd FreeWallet, I’ve made it very clear how that can happen.
The fact that we are two months without numerics , and next to no donations at all to add them…. Indicates to me it’s not really a priority for the community.
Had I seen even a little bit of effort from the stamps or counterparty community to do fundraising and compensate me for all the headaches of the last year, I would have happily added numerics back….. even with a few donations n not the full 1btc amount….
But I’ve given the community plenty of time to decide if numerics are priority or not and demonstrate their desired with more than words…. And the from my perspective, the community is speaking, and saying that numerics are not a priority in FreeWallet n xchain… so I’m listening n not making numerics my problem anymore.
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Yeah… downside would be me wasting my time going in and making code updates to FreeWallet specific to numerics…. Something I will not be doing.
I’ve already made it clear I can turn numerics back on in FreeWallet at any time….. but I won’t do so without being compensated…. so the idea of writing code to allow the use of numerics in my wallet when I’m not being paid for it doesn’t appeal to me.
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FreeWallet does allow signing of raw transactions…. So you could use some external tool to build out the dispenser and then sign the transaction in FreeWallet.
Making postman API calls to the counterparty API to generate the dispenser transaction is probably the simplest method -
they already funded stamped.ninja wallet .... but not all of the community would like to use their wallet (not open-source)
im not asking for you to reinclude numerics into xchain, only simply to have freewallet be able to create tx's to manually work with Numeric Assets (MPMA and sends work with them, why not other features?)....
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good thinking
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this is a really difficult ask for any new user, let alone people who somewhat know what they are doing
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I understand what you’re asking…. It requires me to go into FreeWallet and make code updates specific to numerics…. Requiring me to put in more work to support a future, which I feel is abusive….. and numerics are used primarily by stamps which I also believe is a very abusive project towards Bitcoin.
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I very much agree… this is not ideal, and not something a normal user could do…
I built a wallet that the full use of every token type in counterparty…. My goal has always been to support every thing that counterpart supports.
Unfortunately, a couple projects came in and abused the shit out of the system and the “free” tools…
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alright you do you, but to help support users with Numerics now my only advice is "use the stamp ninja wallet i guess"
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It is unfortunate that new users have to suffer…. But I didn’t create the situation that we are in with only one open source wallet….
And yeah, I’m fine with you telling anybody that wants to use numeric dispensers to use the stamp wallet…
I think I’ve made it pretty clear. I don’t want abusive stamps in Freewallet without being compensated….. so fine with u pushing numeric users (stamps) towards closed source unknown untrusted wallets….. it’s a shitty situation, but I can only be responsible for my products n tools
Perhaps put pressure on the other members of the community who are building wallets that are untrusted and closed source to do things the right way🤷🏻♂️
I understand your position, respect it, but my viewpoint has not changed…
It’s shitty the community has to suffer in the meantime , but from my perspective, the only community truly suffering from numerics is the stamps community🤷🏻♂️ -
remember that most of the user community never picked a side and simply made art with both Named and Numeric assets - so it is absolutely NOT just the stamp community that is suffering - its the community that was here before and don't necessarily trust their wallet
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hope no bad blood - just discussing it as I see people have issues
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side note I started a Gitbook for a FW usermanual and DM'd you the details
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Yes, unfortunately there are a couple thousand numeric assets that have been caught in the crossfire
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No bad blood at al sir😃👍🏻
Simply clarifying my position on stamps and numerics has not changed….
Greatly appreciate all the help and support that you do with FreeWallet and in the counterpart community -
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I just want us all to live in peace and be able to use xcp functions.... maybe the new devs will make a wallet that is better than counterwallet and this discussion will soon pass away
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As far as I know the new Dev focus is only on the protocol and the official position is that the only wallet is the command line wallet.
I’ve seen no conversations about building wallets other than telling the community that they should do it .
Has been floated by a few community members that the best solution here is me to shut down freewallet and xchain entirely and leave community in a lurch.
It’s becoming more clear to me than this new breed of developers, coming to counterparty care less about what the community wants and care more about pushing their own agendas forward ….
I still have Hope for counterparty …. But there’s a reason I’m distancing myself from it…. I believe the ethos has changed significantly over the past year… and the community has continued to become more and more fractured….. I don’t see that changing.
I think we’ll get some technical improvements and counterparty that will be good … but from my perspective, this is not the same community I joined, and many of the members now don’t hold the same core values that I do… so it’s best for me to just move on to building something I do believe in.
I want the best for counterparty and will continue to support it to the best of my ability 👍🏻 -
Ill go ahead and put my 2 sats in: the WORST solution for the counterparty users is for you to shut down freewallet and xchain entirely and leave community in a lurch
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I may be taking a step back from counterparty development…. But I’m still here for the counterpart users, my commitment to them has not changed, so the thought of closing down the explorer and wallet is laughable….
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stamps degens deserved to get rekt I hear Mike is making another shitcoin... nothing new just a new grift
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public key is your address - check user manual in pinned for more info
https://gist.github.com/davestaxcp/1e2cc086a13c9a2d045876852b57e5be#show-a-qr-code-for-your-addressFreewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5Freewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
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this one is useful too: https://gist.github.com/davestaxcp/1e2cc086a13c9a2d045876852b57e5be#viewing-creating-and-importing-addressesFreewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5
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im not sure if FW shows that in the UI....... though I know it needs it to fix this problem: https://gist.github.com/davestaxcp/1e2cc086a13c9a2d045876852b57e5be#public-key-was-neither-provided-nor-published-in-blockchainFreewallet FAQ 2023 v0.9.23 - Write Up - Draft #5
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I know electrum shows this info so you could theoretically do a watch only address in Electrum and derive that information
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Question for you @jdogresorg. Counterparty has its own set of seedwords from the BIP-39 list. Does Freewallet accept both lists? I was just told that a user was testing a Trezor and tried to input the 12 words into FW and got an error.
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FreeWallet supports counterwallet and BIP39 passphrases…. Tho the derivation path for CP is different than most wallets… so the 12-word is generally not portable to other wallets to generate the same addresses.
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Okay. Thanks for the quick reply. I've come up with a workaround where you import your seedphrase into electrum and then get the private key from there which you can import into FW no problem.
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Now we're discussing the fact that hardware wallets (Trezor at least) don't show the recipient address on the screen, but the change address.
And also the fact that multisends are not possible from a hardware wallet.
If any of this is incorrect please let me know. - 17 March 2024 (1 messages)
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Multisends from trezor don’t currently work… as for confirmation screens… depends on ur firmware version on ur trezor
- 18 March 2024 (11 messages)
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gm
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i open a dispenser, tnx confirmed but don’t see disp open
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Bitcoin Transaction: 2bc048ed3dc67136458cc488f0cdaaf2c062dfc6d8d4934f03e7729cac116e1e
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which version of Freewallet did you use?
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hmm that is strange - seeing it as unconfirmed on xcp.io
https://www.xcp.io/tx/2bc048ed3dc67136458cc488f0cdaaf2c062dfc6d8d4934f03e7729cac116e1e
and seeing a message that reads "Error: [404:]...." on xcp.dev
https://www.xcp.dev/tx/2bc048ed3dc67136458cc488f0cdaaf2c062dfc6d8d4934f03e7729cac116e1eTransaction: 2bc048ed3dc67136458cc488f0cdaaf2c062dfc6d8d4934f03e7729cac116e1eDetailed insights into Counterparty txs and their activities.
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0.9.25 beacause i’ve had issue with 0.9.26
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upgrade to the most recent version which is 0.9.29
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see if that helps, strange to see the tx not detected by the xcp protocol though
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can be because i’ve this tx in last block? https://mempool.space/tx/d0b4959496f33b9980f1ad9ae1b8b53e0245ccf7b726b8445b34aac7f9f69b83Bitcoin Transaction: d0b4959496f33b9980f1ad9ae1b8b53e0245ccf7b726b8445b34aac7f9f69b83
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it doesnt look like the reason... as a confirmed tx should be showing up in the counterparty database
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i’ll try to update version thanks for the help
- 19 March 2024 (28 messages)
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gm ser, update 0.9.29 version but seems same issues https://mempool.space/tx/d8a0294c89a333851dc46714c0214b9ed77413175bd7ea2d7df35480bcc9dd5fBitcoin Transaction: d8a0294c89a333851dc46714c0214b9ed77413175bd7ea2d7df35480bcc9dd5f
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you mind if I show these tx's to the xcp protocol devs? I'm not sure why Freewallet would all of a sudden not let you open a dispenser TX....
thoughts on these tx's @jdogresorg? im seeing successful dispensers being opened recently and can't get much info from the tx id's on block explorers for these tx's -
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the tx exists in the CP`transactions` table.... so the keyword is detected and data is decoded... can't speak to why CP isn't actually processing the tx... tho gut says prolly related to all this extra space (highlighted in blue)...
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FYI... this is not a freewallet specific issue (freewallet just talks to CP API to generate transactions).... this is a counterparty specific issue... so the counterparty devs should be the ones to ask about what is happening, etc.
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good to know I will write up an issue for them in counterparty-core
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just wanted to check first if you think it was wallet related or protocol related
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nice work tracking down a case of a disappearing dispenser tx.... I know i've heard ppl say that dispener txs have disappeared before, will be good to get to the actual bottom of WTF is going on, now that we have an actual tx to dig into 🙂
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it’s my piece minted in xcp i’m the owner
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are not the same address
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to be clear: i opened a disp for cocobull tnx go in the last block this 👆🏻. so i re try to open another dispenser but didn’t appear on xchain
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owner 1ALcjkvyQAV3mVoLHGytptn6hAR89tGe4T
source address
1yq38Wq8CLwNp6mJRKQv2svhL9spjWEbH -
Gotchya will add those details to the issue
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Sorry this is happening to you. If you're in a hurry you can try other wallets to create this dispenser...
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got a weird issue with a dispenser tx not showing up in counterparty block explorers... filed it as an issue - will post more info to the issue when I get more info from the user on how to recreate it more specifically:
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/1534Dispenser Opening TX Not Showing on Block Explorers · Issue #1534 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreWe have a user in the Freewallet chat wondering why two different 'open dispenser' tx's do not show up on Counterparty Block Explorers the first tx was (user used FW v0.9.25): 2bc048ed3...
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i think maybe a work around would be to set up the dispenser the old fashioned way.....
which basically means you will have to manually send the asset to the address you would like to deploy the dispenser on and then create the dispenser there.... so the origin and source address are the same address...
I think it might be worthwhile to try doing it that way -
I’m not in a hurry, if there wasn’t any way then I’ll try the way you told me
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i think its possible that simply making sure your Source and Origin for the dispenser is the same address....
it could work in that manner....
I am just taking an educated guess that we would have alot more people in here looking for help if that 'old fashioned' way of doing it stopped working too -
anyway, I brought it up to the Devs and it may be something that is fixed protocol level with the 10.0.0 improvement, but thanks for the details, it will help other users in the future.
and let me know if that process for opening it that I stated above ^ works or doesnt work -
if i open disp with origin 1ALcjkvyQAV3mVoLHGytptn6hAR89tGe4T and same source should be work?
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thats what I would try if I was having the issue you are dealing with
...I did get a reply back in the issue post from ouziel-slama, but asking now for more clarification -
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appreciate your help ser
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🙏🏻
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nice! thats good to know that it works with source/origin the same address
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seems old way is better as always
- 20 March 2024 (1 messages)
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so word from ouziel is that when you create a dispenser tx and use a different source than the origin in the FW input, you have to use a fresh newly created address in the UI first
- 22 March 2024 (1 messages)
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gotcha
- 23 March 2024 (33 messages)
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Had a failed multi-send in Freewallet (0.9.29). Wasn't paying too close attention, but I think it did the first txn and failed before the second. On chain it looks like this: https://mempool.space/tx/44299d89ec5d4cdb83757af4c7ab3f6681c3697e58707bb67e05b0b7c49dd52b
It looks like I sent 0.00020000 BTC (about $12) to 3CD1VfcWE23UBRNswbqq8hvWBMe8fx2RkV
I've never seen this before. Who controls this 3 address? If I do, can I retrieve the Bitcoin?Bitcoin Transaction: 44299d89ec5d4cdb83757af4c7ab3f6681c3697e58707bb67e05b0b7c49dd52bExplore the full Bitcoin ecosystem with The Mempool Open Source Project®. See the real-time status of your transactions, get network info, and more.
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One other wrinkle to this is that it was a numeric asset multi-send, so I'm not sure if that contributed to the failure.
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FreeWallet uses the CP API to generate transactions... so best to ask your question of CP devs
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This is a perfectly normal multi-send.... the mutli-send data is written into outputs in the first tx... and then the second tx has the data from the first tx assembled into a parsable cp tx (p2sh encoding).... yes you control all the addresses/outputs generated... and those outputs are spent in the second tx to make up the miners fee to get the tx mined :)
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Only $12 not gonna worry about it. It was more a curiosity as to what was happening. Thanks for the explanation.
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and the amount in these outputs us used to pay the tx fee on the second tx.... so, the output amount on these addresses varies.... I believe its ilke 546 sats per output and then the last outputs us made up of however many more sats are needed to make up the tx fee on the second tx
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@jdogresorg you said recently that when the second tx fails like that the bitcoin gets "stuck" in an address which the sender still technically controls, but there is currently no way to retrieve it, correct? Is that something that a Counterparty dev would have to figure out a solution to? How would I even go about writing up an issue for that? I'm not a programmer and don't know how to explain what is happening under the hood.
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you are correct... the data is encoded into outputs in the first tx which are then signed in the second tx.... so, you control the addresses and can sign them... so not an CP dev issue... more an issue of no easy tools to find those failed first tx outputs and assemble them into a tx to gather the btc
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i imagine as btc price continues to rise... getting at this dust will become more of a priority for ppl 😉
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@subterranean1 and @mikeinspace this issue is in a Counterparty Github issue thread below
@mikeinspace if you could supply Adam with some more details from the Debug section of your wallet that is what Adam was searching when looking over the details of this one to further diagnose this issue
- past times we haven't got much info from the persons experiencing this issue other than a tx-id and it happening.... I'd love if you could review that debug info and pass it on to Adam and the team over there
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/1383multi send error · Issue #1383 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-corehaving a problem doing a multi send... getting this error It looks like my "second send" gets hung up or something... im barely technical enough to find the github... i was directed to pu...
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it's a longstanding issue we havent really pinned down yet and not many wallets support MPMA nor report this error in detail
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Thanks @davesta. If anyone can pull the necessary data I would think Mike would be the guy.
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Dan⚡We₿₿ (@hrtlndbitcoin) on X
When you ask someone how often they consolidate their UTXOs
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you control the 3 address, there is a tool on my github to help you sign/spend that output in a mpma 2nd tx -
i expect it is mempool related ... what is the size if the mempool that was used to craft the failed mpma?
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if the first tx has since confirmed even nodes with very small mempools can generate the second tx hex
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the fix is to use a node with a large enough mempool so that the first of the two mpma txs is seen by Counterparty so it can generate the second tx even if1st tx has low fee rate
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you can make a 2nd tx mpma send with a 1 sat byte fee ... if you use a confirmed 1st tx as the input
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so I expect if you have a node with a few gb mempool you won't get these failures
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Since 4 months LSK is under maintenance, I want to move my tokens. Why is this taking so long? Please escalate to the devs to fix the issue. -
CAN DEVS DO SOMETHING???
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the wordlist is unique so that 4 letters referers to a specific word
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freewallet-desktop/js/mnemonic.js at ea84dc4266c41caea18b8a2a63b68577025cd9bd · jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop
Desktop wallet for Win/Mac/Linux which supports Bitcoin and Counterparty - jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop
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it is a custom library and wordlist that predate BIP39.... not really used outside of counterparty/counterwallet..... freewallet supports both counterwallet passphrases and BIP39
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the wordlist has many words with duplications of the first 4 letters .. Grant Grand Grandma, Bottle Bottom .. best to write words down in full as if you use the wrong word there is no checksum like there is in bip39 so you will not get an error you will just get a different empty wallet
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good to know! I would have just assumed first 4 letters.
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sheit.... my bad... I knew there was no repeat 4 characters in BIP39... WRONGLY assumed that was the case with the counterwallet wordlist as well... my mistake.
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I always write the full words down... but the only thing I ever actually backed up to hardware was my trezor seed... which was just the first 4 characters.... thanks for correcting me @B0BSmith .... TIL something new 🙂
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me too! the learning never ends apparently 😛
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every day is a school day .. I found more examples ..
free freedom freeze freely .. chill child children childhood - 25 March 2024 (7 messages)
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you will need XCP on the address you are sweeping from, but no issues reported with sweep to be aware of at the moment
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0.5 per sweep last time I checked
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We switched to a dynamic XCP fee model on sweeps at around Christmas time….. the fee right now is determined based off the size of the sweep specifically how many issuance and balances are transferred…. typically the prices much lower than the hardcoded half an XCP that we’ve been using for the past few years
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Can I get a link to this tool @B0BSmith? I would be interested in trying it
- 26 March 2024 (1 messages)
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- 27 March 2024 (6 messages)
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@B0bSmith - can you explain what your tool is asking for in the second box "Counterparty API Generated Unsigned MPMA Step 2 TX HEX"
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sure an MPMA send is done using two transactions, so my tool is asking for the unsigned hex that is the second of the two transactions
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An MPMA send uses P2SH to encode the data in the 1st tx, and the 2nd tx has an OP_RETURN. The 2nd tx spends the p2sh outputs from the first tx as miner fees. So the second tx must be signed slightly differently than a standard Counterparty transaction
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@B0bSmith - Sorry for the newb questions. Can I find the unsigned hex in the transaction data? Here is one of my failed MPMA transactions: https://blockstream.info/tx/bd58ff9e65feb25f57033b4ef5ddaf58e5189c033996edb591cac234fec55af7Blockstream Block Explorer
Blockstream Explorer is an open source block explorer providing detailed blockchain data across Bitcoin, Testnet, and Liquid. Supports Tor and tracking-free.
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And does your tool operate in the local browser cache? Do I need to be concerned that I am pasting a private key into the site? Should I go offline and clear cache aftwards? I've got 5 failed tx's that I would like to recapture.
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The tool can be used offline no problem and the tool doesn't store any data.
With regard to your failed mpma transactions my tool will sign the required 2nd tx to complete the mpma sends but you will need to use the Counterparty api to generate the 2nd tx hex, and you do this by referencing the txid that is the 1st part - 28 March 2024 (3 messages)
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You lost me at API. Thank you for taking the time to explain it though. Perhaps I'll try and understand it further at a later date.
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Ah yeah you got to post JSON to the API to get it to generate tx hex that my tool can then be used to sign. Postman is your friend
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Also some of these words are in the BIP39 list, some are not. - 30 March 2024 (4 messages)
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Hello. I opened a wallet on counterwallet. I have words, but when I try to open them in free wallet, a wallet starting with 1 appears. My balance was in the other wallet. How can I access that wallet? -
When sending a multi send, are spaces required after each comma?
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go to 'change address' on the upper right of FW and click your segwit address (should be segwit address #1) and the addy will start with "bc1"
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yes that is correct
- 31 March 2024 (8 messages)
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I cannot send a photo but hoping someone can help navigate what i did wrong. The multi send did send my xcp to the various addresses but ... only 0.00000001 worth.
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You need to specify 1.00000000 to send 1 xcp not just 1… divisible quantities need to be specified as divisible amounts.
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