- 01 May 2019 (8 messages)
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Any admins here?
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Ok
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I’m the leader
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If you have a question, just state it and someone will come along and answers it
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- 04 May 2019 (2 messages)
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what's up people
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- 07 May 2019 (8 messages)
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Hi.
I got the following server.log.
2019-04-25-T01:51:57+0900 [WARNING] tx missing in rawtx cache: '7b8178d79b1763fc11284ca1bb4107b1c054d448e91e19f29501704522943e0d' -- txhash_list size: 662, hash: 2725f05664edb0a79b80822814eeb3c4 / raw_transactions_cache size: 20000 / # rpc_batch calls: 661 / txhash in noncached_txhashes: True / txhash in txhash_list: True -- list ['a1be16dc7965b39767411e0a62666a5cd1ff3abdad96ab1cf6e22d77d2f29682']
Could I ignore this warnning?
Or should I change the value of backend-poll-interval?
refs
* https://blockstream.info/tx/a1be16dc7965b39767411e0a62666a5cd1ff3abdad96ab1cf6e22d77d2f29682
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You can ignore for now... if you continue to get tx missing errors, try posting on counterpartytalk.org and someone will reply to your message.... this will also archive your question and relevant answer for anyone who has a similar issue in the future
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Selling XCP for 16000 sats per coin
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heil to the king @misterwheeler
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Cool... so post your order on the DEX... no one in here is going to do an OTC trade with you.
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- 08 May 2019 (1 messages)
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@jdogresorg
Thanks!
> You can ignore for now... if you continue to get tx missing errors,
I see.
I found the following codes.
# get transactions from cache
result = {}
for tx_hash in txhash_list:
try:
if verbose:
result[tx_hash] = raw_transactions_cache[tx_hash]
else:
result[tx_hash] = raw_transactions_cache[tx_hash]['hex'] if raw_transactions_cache[tx_hash] is not None else None
except KeyError as e: #shows up most likely due to finickyness with addrindex not always returning results that we need...
_logger.warning("tx missing in rawtx cache: {} -- txhash_list size: {}, hash: {} / raw_transactions_cache size: {} / # rpc_batch calls: {} / txhash in noncached_txhashes: {} / txhash in txhash_list: {} -- list {}".format(
e, len(txhash_list), hashlib.md5(json.dumps(list(txhash_list)).encode()).hexdigest(), len(raw_transactions_cache), len(payload),
tx_hash in noncached_txhashes, tx_hash in txhash_list, list(txhash_list.difference(noncached_txhashes)) ))
if _retry < GETRAWTRANSACTION_MAX_RETRIES: #try again
time.sleep(0.05 * (_retry + 1)) # Wait a bit, hitting the index non-stop may cause it to just break down... TODO: Better handling
r = getrawtransaction_batch([tx_hash], verbose=verbose, skip_missing=skip_missing, _retry=_retry+1)
result[tx_hash] = r[tx_hash]
else:
raise #already tried again, give up
return result
> try posting on counterpartytalk.org and someone will reply to your message.... this will also archive your question and relevant answer for anyone who has a similar issue in the future
I'll try it.
refs
* https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/blob/master/counterpartylib/lib/backend/indexd.pycounterparty-lib/counterpartylib/lib/backend/indexd.py at master · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-libCounterparty Protocol Reference Implementation. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib development by creating an account on GitHub.
- 09 May 2019 (5 messages)
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Counterparty
It's Newsletter time! This month we have some exciting updates in the newsletter including a https://t.co/sDCaLjp9F8 update, an article featuring Counterparty, a pebble lightning wallet update and much more! check it out at https://t.co/1dvgT1jLlc …
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👆lol his right hand and forearm looks like a funny bearded dude with a brown clown nose if you turn the upper side of your phone slightly feft...
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- 10 May 2019 (29 messages)
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That's what I have seen first XD
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was this the newsletter
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i feel better now, explains the dumping somewhat, i guess
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XCP works without exchanges tho so I'm not so sure it deded
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Op Ed: Understanding the Latest FinCEN Guidance for Cryptocurrencies
The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network has issued new “interpretive guidance” about how its regulations apply to businesses that conduct money transmissions in virtual currencies. What do you need to know?
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truth is, don't need an exchange for anything
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we're early
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but we're on the right side
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btcpay
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bisq
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crosschain whateverwhatever
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it will all happen
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but if you want fiat now, ya u fucked with your xcp
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i just became top 100 holder few days ago
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lol
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tring to get to 1%
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damn... a Polo delisting is what I feared the most due to the low volume
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What a beautiful deep
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21 Q’s w the infamous DJPEPE
DJPEPE grants a rare, exclusive interview to Sasha Hodder & Bitcoinweird.com for a new 21 Questions. #BW21
- 11 May 2019 (48 messages)
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Agree..can the admin represent us to persuade binance to lisu xcp??..
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List
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I see rekt people
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Only bittrex trade xcp now..if bittrex delist xcp..then its dead..hope the leader here can do something abt it before its too late..
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No matter how good a project is..without good marketing..it will be dead gradually..
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Xcp is now 0.000175 sat..
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60% down in a day.. when it's already -98% from 'ATH' (which is actually levels xcp has got to EVERY year since launch.. and less than half of real ATH) is just an absurd overreaction from traders from this news. Obscene, polo was a minority exchange.
There's plenty of good stuff happening with counterparty. Projects built on top of it and things in development, It works great. Don't even need an exchange w/ DEX (although certainly helps). Seems the only weak link here is skittish traders way overblowing an event and liquidity challenges, both of which are solvable.
Buy high sell low crowd have taken themselves out securing pennies on the dollar, but community can rally around to solve the latter.
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I mean christ sake, look at the long term charts. Absolute overreaction.
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By long term charts do you mean historic prices? Bc history is no predictor of future. These markets display uncorrelated price returns consistent with the efficient market hypothesis. Sadly if there is little liquidity then it won’t be valuable to exchanges and it is possible that XCP wont return to normal used btc levels unless organic demand for the token rises through utilization.
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It’s sad and unfortunate bc one would think there’d be a big market for tokenized assets on btc’s blockchain via counterparty
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That is why a good project will require a good marketing as well...otherwise not many will know what is xcp..
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If we can manage to list it to binance,..it will be great to see some volumes..
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But guys, xcp just got Segwit addresses and I heard IndieSquare team was gunna start dev on xcp.
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I’m bitter about the drama within xcp that prevents any movement forward. I feel like this guy today:
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Of course, absolutely agree past performance is not indicative of future but historical charts of XCP from 2014 to 2018 (fairly long history as far as alts go) were totally sound, drops and spikes at as much as 0.025 and 'average highs' of 0.008. There was more or less a range, which you would expect rational traders not too deviate from too much (especially considering a highly limited supply, zero sell pressure from mining rewards which can be very high with PoW coins, and zero sell pressure from treasury liquidations, (unlike many ICO's)
but then 2018 to 2019 (literally just the past year or so) without any major changing factors other than ico bubble popping, btc collapsing and volume diminishing across the board it fell of a cliff. Now BTC is heading up again, counterparty still has tremendous promise as one of the only real viable asset layers on top of it, and in general.
Rises or falls aren't anything to note but 99% decline with the only really citeable reason being lowered exchange volume is something else.
From 2011 onwards, I have never seen a project (in active use, with utility as a foundational structure)-- bearing in mind many alts are simply SoV or currency pretenders or speculative with little usage to speak of) drop so sharply so suddenly, and that includes nonsense like paycoin and bitconnnect
Low liquidity is problematic but $3m mkt cap and $150k REAL (ie not grossly inflated like many pairs on other exchanges) volume to take todays example isn't weird. Even a fraction of that volume wouldn't be.
Buy pressure only has to counteract sell pressure. And again, unlike let's say RVN for instance that is printing $300,000 per day or 10% the whole XCP market cap there's no influx of new supply that needs to be liquidated to pay electricity bills, nor any consensys like fund dumping billions on the market with counterparty. Although it's a shame on the second, cause with the tiny mkt cap couple of VC's (half a VC really) could lock away significant chunk of supply with a long term mindset of expansion. Should be ridiculously easy to maintain. -
Agreed. Would be great if the market got exposed to what you are saying. Is there a good way of getting some VC funding to push this project forward?
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What kind of drama?
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The biggest hinderance is having to pay BTC fees when they get so expensive.
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Since there's no centralized entity nor 'foundation fee' a la zcash or beam, interested parties could simply buy a stake in the protocol the same way normal folk do (they just have to be switched on enough to look at the risk/reward and see if it makes sense.. at this price I think it does) then leverage their capital or connections to build value onto that stake (for example, by funding entities developing on the protocol). Simply reducing the available supply itself significantly with a long term hold mindset would be trivial. Look at the thesis from placeholder on decred for example. Eth itself was bootstrapped by VC and helped take off by continued subsequent investments
There's plenty of potential there. Cryptokitties style apps alone have gotten tens of millions in funding, despite it came after rare pepe, user numbers alone hardly justify it. Angellist, earn etc is full of contacts that might take the time to analyze and see potential. It's just the space is highly competitive these days "purer" projects have a harder time. -
Agreed, it's not ideal when the onchain blocks are more congested, but it does seem the tx fees have seen lower highs from last time around, and with some proposed developments. E.g batching (and developments on bitcoin like liquid, lightning) that could become less of a pain point.
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MoneroNinja
【悲報】Poloniexから我らがカウンターパーティー $XCP 上場削除される😭
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anyone confirmed this yet?
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Yes
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Poloniex - The legendary crypto asset exchange
Buy, sell, and trade Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH), TRON (TRX), Tether (USDT), and the best altcoins on the market with the legendary crypto exchange.
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damn
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None
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Whats the solution??..How to save xcp?
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Focused direction and marketing.... perhaps a poll on counterparty talk on how to move things forward would help drum up some ideas
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Agree...we need the leader to lead us now...
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There is no single leader, the community together is the leader. Everything is in their (our) hands.
Counterparty is a great project with prestige and a tangible niche. The asset space has tremendous potential, eclipsing what we've seen with btc itself. and it's still majorly untapped. Counterparty has lead the way in this area since 2014. Still the best option for asset issuance in bitcoin (and in general IMO, but that's more subjective)
Strength of community has taken projects like NEM or XMR from nothing (they're essentially forks of existing products) to multi billion dollar platforms-- the same can happen in other projects, here too. A hundred potential approaches in future but one certain thing community is the main relevant thing going forward. -
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@TushyPLesticles got banned by accident. anyone know how to add him back?
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Am back, thanks fren.
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Too much drama for focused direction. We need like 3 xcp forks
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what do you mean?
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networker.
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oh
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everyone is
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can i mesage to you?
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ahahaha
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- 12 May 2019 (21 messages)
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Dam delisted
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I have a bunch of xcp
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Or on trex
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Remember there's also Freewallet, and have you seen Raizer?
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Also there's talk with exchanges currently, they will consider listing XCP, it'll just depend on community expressing interest (e.g vote). Will link the relevant pages when ready.
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ah spam bot too quick to delete messages.
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The UI of Freewallet on desktop especially is nice, a vastly more pleasant experience than using CW IMO, and I think the DEX would be more popular if it was the default introduction used in guides or examples for token trading. It hasn't got that much exposure.
It's more user friendly, even supports BTC pairs non custodially. just the catch 22 of having to first acquire a token via a DEX to use it but not being able to use it until you hold that token, could be confusing to noobs. Maybe jdog can tweak to debit xcp or btc directly to unlock the dex feature instead and have it as a per address feature -
And Raizer is a new implementation of a DEX by a third party, they use their own token representing BTC to faciliate that pair, like the swapbot of the past, and of course normal counterparty token pairs too. Can't validate it fully, it's unofficial, but just the UI is as nice as any centralized exchange so shows you what's possible.
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Freeport is also an awesome new wallet that's probably the easiest way to issue a token ever, compared with platforms like ethereum too. No messing around with contracts or auditing. No DEX yet there but the dev stated that it's a goal.
I think Freeport is the kind of thing that should be getting exposure on the frontpage of bitcoin sub reddit as an interesting example of the use cases of bitcoin, just like openbazaar or Lightning. I'm sure some folk have no idea it even exists and that you can easily create assets on bitcoin, which is why the community is important to help evangelize and showcase. With no singular centralized mouthpiece it's up to everyone to build things up organically.
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Regarding Freewallet, imho it's easy enough to buy a XCHAINPEPE to unlock the DEX features. Just go to rarepepewallet.com, enter your passphrase, and buy the card with XCP or Pepecash. It's not that complicated. Also if you have this card in any of your addresses it should unlock the DEX feature for all your other addresses too, not just the address the card is in. Sometimes if it hangs for me it helps to go first to the address the XCHAINPEPE is in and then I can also use the DEX with the other addresses. I for one am grateful for all the work J-dog put into offering all these great features, and a one time extra effort to acquire that card doesnt seem such a big deal considering the benefits of having access to the DEX trading in Freewallet.
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Counterpartytalk.org is the official forum where all the previous foundation election/chatter was at. Prolly get a better response posting there
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Thanks for the kind words
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I believe the latest release allows you to buy the fullaccess or xchainpepe token directly in the wallet using btc or xcp via 1-click buy
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One click buy
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I think XCP should focus on tokenisation of digital assets on Bitcoin’s blockchain starting with financial instruments
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The original vision of blockchain is to create a more competitive and inclusive financial ecosystem so XCP should be showing companies how easy it is to tokenise financial assets and create liquidity on a dex. Do a few things really well on Bitcoin’s blockchain. Get some high profile users.
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I agree with this. I’ve been excited by this possibility since I’ve known of Bitcoin, and Counterparty can make it a reality! There are now hundreds of competing tokens trying to dominate this space, but even capturing a small segment would be sufficient in driving up usage and demand.
- 13 May 2019 (58 messages)
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ive been talking privately about being willing to facilitate some cohesion. i understand the balance needed relationship of multiple industry-needed paradoxes. private company vs open source. public traction vs private development. There is a need for a group to come together. Having been an active/heavy user for nearly two years i not only know what im doing, but do it. As a cryptoartist i am already an advocate for counterparty wherever i go. Feel free for anyone else to come forward, but i am the only one with the resources to travel to where you are and talk to you in person. see me at rare.af if you wanna talk shop of any sort
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as for any users who want to trade in XCP for weight of novelty in ethereum, i would suggest this once in a lifetime offer
200K XCP for these domains
ethereum.contractors
ethereum.construction
ethereum.computer
ethereum.solutions
ethereum.support
ethereum.systems
ethereum.training
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dash party must go on
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put me back in the group boys
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Is this project heading anywhere??
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Does anyone have a link to a latest news and happening and updates about this project and devs??
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Or any tldr;?
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The project is in shambles. The community was ruined
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We are trying to resurrect a foundation to get the project back on track
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We are encouraging feedback
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We are encouraging new ideas, new directions.
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We are still listed on one exchange. Let's hope we're not too listed there too
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If we can manage to list in binance..the volume would help xcp..
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Nice! 👍 Super cool, that's the best of both worlds in terms of transferability & makes it just that little bit easier for new entrants.
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Wen 3 letter assets?
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LOL, as if 3 letter assets are what is holding CP back
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Also... pretty clear from the forum talk on this topic that there is not consensus on 3-letter assets
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But, If your eager to help move CP forward, I would encourage you to post on counterpartytalk.org with your ideas.... perhaps a thread about doing another CP election and electing people who you feel can move CP forward.
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CIP Proposal - Three Letter Asset Names
We don’t need to worry about numeric collisions with 3 letter asset names (as long as they don’t start with A). The numeric collision issue was with adding assets that start with the letter A.
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There is the thread for reference.
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Let’s call it xcp
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Nobody agrees on what is holding XCP back. Many say slow paced development. Some say lack of news that will bring in new people, like 3-letter assets. People often say lack of marketing or liquidity/getting listed on exchanges. I think those are all wrong, the thing that's been holding XCP back since the very beginning is cultural. Ever notice how many people come and go and nobody new sticks around?
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What can be done to fix that?
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I'm not sure.
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All I am doing is keeping the website alive and block explorer running so I can build on a wallet... Anyone else is welcome to contribute to CP and move it forward however they see fit.
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I'll write an opinion letter that XCP isn't a security if someone wants to apply to get it on Coinbase?
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As I have suggested a few times (but still don't see a forum post for it), Perhaps holding another election and electing community members to help CP however they see fit is a good idea. I would encourage some organization around CP, tho I don't want to be involved in it beyond what I am now... running the sites and holding some dev funds.
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Great thanks!!
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Is there any video for AMA or something like that
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No, the only marketing material for Counterparty is the website. IMO the website should be revamped with a simple explainer video as well as custom pages that explain exactly how CP can benefit specific industries (ie, financial tools for companies, cryptogoods for artists, etc)
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Yeah too much drama
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What drama? All that has been going on for the last year is the website being run and slow incremental improvements to the platform. I am not seeing much drama, except all the stuff between Dan/te and the foundation over a year ago... since then, pretty quiet... but perhaps I am out of the loop
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Once again, this is a community driven project... so if you have something you want to contribute, by all means, do so.
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This has big potential to help CP I think.
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One of the biggest complaints is fees... this would do away with some of those complaints.. or at least provider a faster/cheaper alternative without moving to another chain
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They make a token on CP, then lock it up (peg in) and can trade fast/cheap on the sidechain... then if/when they want ti back on BTC, they can peg out
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The bitcointalk.org forum tends to be all doom and gloom... not too many positive ideas out of there that I have seen, that is why I suggest counterpartytalk.org 🙂
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Can't post the links to video (bot blocks them) but there is some good videos on YouTube giving you an overview of counterparty if you search 'what is counterparty'.
but in general, no video updates -- vast majority of updates comes from text based news, like newsletters. There's plenty of updates going back months and months on the news section of the site, every month.
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Going to try and write up a one page overview of the project, it's history, the developments till now and what can lie ahead to condense it all down in easier to digest format
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And just imagine a stablecoin on there too!
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the drama created by evil wearing the mask of good
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WTH.delete
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this accusation took out the last master editor we had.
yet it appears to be prevalent in many corners of cryptoland
forking other peoples group efforts for the greedy self-interests
there are people who practice patience or cooperation, and those that make fun of the concepts as being preposterous.
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It doesn’t sound as though there is drama in XCP when you compare to other crypto communities
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It should be possible to collectively help XCP help contribute to the tokenisation of digital assets
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Haven’t had any problems with high fees since a long time. I think people pay too much.
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when move to Chikun?
- 14 May 2019 (29 messages)
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Wen 3 letter assets?
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lol
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With all the problems identified...whats the solution???..
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Xcp is 0.000139 now..
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Great..anyone know him personally??..
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Ship is sinking..would suggest we get a captain who can save us now..
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Robbie has moved on and is not interested in working on CP at this time.
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Counterparty foundation in 2019? New updates?
Greetings everyone! I’m Alan and I’ve loved using counterparty for years, as well as trading it on exchanges and using the dex, and multiple wallets. The recent delisting caught me off guard on poloniex and I was curious why this occured. I wasn’t actively involved in development or even talking with other counterpart users or devs (in the past) to use the dex or exchanges I didn’t need to. Anyway, I was like ok, other than just checking the monthly updates let me make a post on bitcointalk as ...
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That forum post is asking for suggestions on how to move CP forward, I encourage everyone to weigh in with their thoughts on this post.
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We've been developing on CP for some time now.
We have a pretty cool working wallet actually:
Artolin.io
The two main issues we've found are
1. DeX crashes very often. Probably we could mirror it, setup more nodes or idk. We've had so much trouble setting up a fed node that we just gave up recently.
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Would love to discuss more with the community a road map to bootstrap CP.
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Sorry to hear that your having issues with running a fednode.... strange, as I am able to set one up right out of the box on a new server without any issues using the fednode instructions... perhaps you were trying a custom config or not running on Ubuntu 18?
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re: xcp bottleneck... how do you mean? XCP is not really required to use Counterparty.... it is the default base token used on the DEX, but CP can work with Bitcoin on the DEX without the need for XCP... only time that XCP is really used in CP is for asset registration and dividends
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side-note: artolin.io looks nice 🙂
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Thx :)
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I don't know what makes you believe you need to "bypass" using XCP to buy other tokens. You can post an order for any token pair you want. There are games like Spells of Genesis that use the Bitcrystals token as main means to buy the SoG cards. Rare Pepes can be bought for Pepecash or XCP, or swapped directly for any other Rare Pepe card or card from some other game such as Spells of Genesis. I could post an offer of any asset and ask to get paid in any other asset. Noone forces you to post offers vs XCP exclusively.
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I used to run swapbots that accepted payment in a whole range of tokens for my SoG cards. I accepted BTC, XCP, Bitcrystals, FoldingCoin, SJCX and on occasion, Pepecash. You just need to let people know what asset you want to be paid in, you could make your own store website if you want.
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Yes i know @heunland
The thing is that you need a CP asset to trade. Pepecash, foldingcoin, xcp, etc. All native tokens of the cp protocol.
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This is the main objection we get all the time. People want to buy a rarepepe and then what. They need pepecash or xcp or else. You can't just buy it with btc.
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Ok, thanks for the tip, I'll check it out
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I gree with you @PPCFTW1
Actually we are in part already doing the first three out of five point you mentioned in your post. I'm always available to talk more about this.
Anyone in NY this week? I'll be at the RareAF2 on Saturday - 15 May 2019 (56 messages)
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my response to the ongoing thread regarding the state of xcp https://counterpartytalk.org/t/counterparty-foundation-in-2019-new-updates/5446/3?u=chiguireitorCounterparty foundation in 2019? New updates?
Greetings everyone! I’m Alan and I’ve loved using counterparty for years, as well as trading it on exchanges and using the dex, and multiple wallets. The recent delisting caught me off guard on poloniex and I was curious why this occured. I wasn’t actively involved in development or even talking with other counterpart users or devs (in the past) to use the dex or exchanges I didn’t need to. Anyway, I was like ok, other than just checking the monthly updates let me make a post on bitcointalk as ...
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we gonna have to reinstall the whole node again. By not been able to do so following the instruccions on the website also means, instruccions are out of date. On the DEX site its just not working out very well since we depend on the apis hosted on that server. We would be more than happy to assist by mirrowing that server so the apis will be up continiusly.
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We're about a month away from the 1,000,000th transaction on CounterParty
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Sends that is, I see there have been 1.4 million transactions total
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yeah, crossed 1mill txs long ago
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I stay optimistic, and glad to see optimism in the CP community
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I see... There must be a few videos man. I mean how hard is it to hire someone and make a video which csn massively make a difference
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Very interesting insights. I agree with most of the proposals, tho i think those can only come from an authority in the space like @chiguireitor, since some of those most likely will rise resistance among parts of the community.
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i could use my benevolent dictator powers over the code and just disregard community... but i'm not here because i have some godly power or something like that, i'm here because i casually was one of the more involved devs in the community
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so i'll wait what ppl think of the ideas beofre commiting more time into one specific solution
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Will be interesting to see how a 'contentious' proposal like debasing xcp would play out. But definitely coming from original devs, we all have better chances for successful outcomes :)
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See you there
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Freeport wallet getting some airtime on frontpage of r/bitcoin 👌
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nice work 🙂
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Already done my dude
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https://mafiawars.io/card/RAREAF.TER-PARTY
Basic Information
Name : Cirque Du Cipher
Supply : 111 (1 Holders)
Statistics Information
Attack : 0
Defense : 10
Heat : 0
Income : $0.00
Upkeep : $0.00
Price Information
MAFIACASH : 0.00000000 ($0.00)
PEPECASH : 0.00000000 ($0.00)
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Regarding the treasury idea, is it worth raising capital, buying up the supply at these prices? The XCP price should be almost tethered to btc to ensure the fees don’t make it prohibitively expensive to use
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So there is no need to hold XCP to tokenise an asset? That would make holding XCP useless
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Is there a list of all the ways in which XCP must be exhausted as utilization goes up? If it’s only used to purchase namespace then its a flawed tokeneconimic design that could be fixed.
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XCP's purpose originally was an anti-spam mechanism to prevent the spam-registration of assets. Currently the only places in the codebase that XCP is being used is a.) asset registrations b.) dividend payments c.) betting.
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So a fee is paid in XCP to execute b) and c)?
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You need XCP to register named assets. Unless you like the way A128731237127312 rolls off the tongue.
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Lol
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a fee is paid/burned to execute A)Issue Asset and B.) Dividend payments.
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There is a dividend where you can see a XCP fee paid... since the dividends transaction can create a bunch of records in the database, a anti-spam mechanism was needed
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XCP is also used in betting as XCP can be escrowed by the protocol, while BTC can not.
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No one is doing betting on CP currently... but, betting does work on CP with oracles
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DevTut: Enhanced Feed Info | Counterparty
Developers/Notes_and_Tutorials/enhanced_feed_info.md
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Right I see, but the fee is only an anti spam measure, not a fee for those running a node or a treasury pool fee
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correct. The fee is anti-spam only and is destroyed at the time of use.... no one gets those fees
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Node operators earn nadda... tho there was some discussion of adding support for node operators to accept some fees via MCAT
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And someone here suggested XCP start pooling those fees?
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Yah I mean I think it would make sense for fees to go to node operators and a dev pool
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recycling the fees to a multi-sig address under the control of the CP foundation to be used at their discression is not a bad idea.... tho not sure there are enough fees burned to make it worthwhile.
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Could we revisit the fees so we could make it win win for users?
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I like the idea behind MCAT, because the node operators can decide what tokens they want to get compensated with... XCP, FLDC, etc.
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deweller/cips
Counterparty Improvement Proposals. Contribute to deweller/cips development by creating an account on GitHub.
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MCAT is a really nice idea
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Because the MCAT server can save space by combining multiple transactions, it can potentially spend less bitcoin in transaction fees than it receives in asset fees and operate at a profit.
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Good idea
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I think working out a fee for service is going to make the project sustainable.
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XCP would benefit from an andreas type presentation. Make a script, find a suitable presenter and invade bitcoin meet up groups world wide. The script is key. We can find people comfortable with public speaking.
- 16 May 2019 (14 messages)
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Yet another great idea... please post it in this thread so we can capture all the feedback/suggestions... https://counterpartytalk.org/t/counterparty-foundation-in-2019-new-updates/5446/15Counterparty foundation in 2019? New updates?
Greetings everyone! I’m Alan and I’ve loved using counterparty for years, as well as trading it on exchanges and using the dex, and multiple wallets. The recent delisting caught me off guard on poloniex and I was curious why this occured. I wasn’t actively involved in development or even talking with other counterpart users or devs (in the past) to use the dex or exchanges I didn’t need to. Anyway, I was like ok, other than just checking the monthly updates let me make a post on bitcointalk as ...
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:learning: thanks for the run down. b) and c) i did not know
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This should be pinned
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None
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Pinned as requested 🙂
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+1, there's MCAT, mentioned here which is a super cool idea-- also the idea of XCP as gas fees for the VM proposal. (and bets)
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- 17 May 2019 (44 messages)
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Nice
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Damn guys, Bittrex delist. What now?
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I hodl, comeback stories are always the greatest 🤞✌️
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Same here🤞
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Btw why am I restricted from sending stickers?
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Feels bad man
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I think I mentioned the Blocknet before, it may be worth it to look into how hard it would be to integrate so the blocknet DEX could allow trading all counterparty assets with a lot of other coins including BTC and ETH they already activated for crosschain swaps using XRouter. They got a telegram @Blocknet to contact them and the website it blocknet.co
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Which wallet works for hold xcp guys?
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I don't want to sell
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Freewallet
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Indiesquare
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Counterwallet
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counterparty.io/wallets/
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Thanks 🤙🏼
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Why have they delisted XCP and not folding coin?
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Poloniex has also disabled decred, lisk and others, XCP got higher volume than many others, even ICO projects. These US exchanges are nonsense. Probably better converting it to BNB or ERC and getting it on exchanges for the sake of holders
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A few people have reached out to CZ with this question.... I have heard through the grapevine that they have already done some testing with XCP and could add it pretty easy... just need someone at binance (CZ) to give it the yay.
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I am curious what is going to happen to the XCP in the bittrex and polo cold wallets... that is a LOT of XCP.
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Lot of xcp but not a lot of btc now.
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nope. THe hotwallet holds user coins... the coldwallet holds the exchanges cut I believe.
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Jezuz that's a lot of user tokens
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I misunderstood
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Lol
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😢😢😢
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damn! I put in 60 BTC... worth much less now 🙁
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😱😱😱
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👍😅. Rekt club. Misery loves company. Counterparty is still massively interesting and deserves a fresh start IMO. It has utility regardless of the price. Hopefully community can get together after this stupidness. to discuss plans for the future. That's optimistic at least
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It’s a real shame for sure. Particularly when both exchanges list obvious scam projects such as clams and zcl
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Really? XCP had lower volume than folding coin?
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Coins with lower daily volume than XCP are still listed... more likely it is about US Securities laws and exchanges not wanting to risk dealing with US customers on questionable coins.
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polo disabled Decred and many other top 100 coins for US holders too the other day. It's just nonsense. Proof of burn is and everything since in the counterparty model is about as far removed from a security as is possible in an alt. 2000 shadier or scammier models are out there. ETH was the OG ICO that got a free psss, XRP, etc
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That is correct, and FoldingCoin is a registered 501(c) non for profit in the US which may be a reason why not yet delisted despite low volume.
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I put 40btc, Les than 1 now.. .
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once upon a time millionaires club client here
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Someone buy the dip and get rich!
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The project is far from dead, there's many interesting proposals forward , and there should now be very limited resistance to implementing them if the community rallies around those ideas. The main thing that has caused this huge recent slump is low liquidity from centralized gatekepeers-- in terms of solvable problems that's hardly the hardest.
I envy whoever's got the spare capital to get in that these prices, the only way now is forward. - 18 May 2019 (45 messages)
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True, easy who buy today can make 100% profit for sure
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that sucks
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I'm burned too
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I can't post gifs
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Probably because of our own bots
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Lol
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A lot of people have assets too in xcp
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Thus those all got hurt too
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Just remember people were paying close to 200k for a lordkek card
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Yeah, brutal. Wonder how it compares to biggest crypto kitties sales now.
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I’m talking to someone from bittrex on Wednesday about other things but will see if I can find anything out
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It’s a real shame that they delist a legitimate project with users who rely on liquidity
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Anyway I guess XCP has a dec
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Dex
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@jdogresorg ..just to suggest..maybe the leader should speak to binance??....together with other exchange..to list xcp...only in that way, we can get more volume to increase back xcp value..
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A good project will be deem worthless if there are not enough marketing and promotion...
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rare pepe party is coming out, eventually
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once @chiguireitor manages to finish it up
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will there be a counterparty still when it comes out in 2023? ;)
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Glad to see the community is keeping it positive, lets get that dex trade going 😎
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I can't log on to my counter wallet. The running line under the login lasts forever, then a message appears that the servers are not available. How long will it last?
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That happened todo me too yesterday...
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Try reloading the page and logging in again.... indexd can take a long time to pull up address history... if it hangs for a min reload and try again..... or use freewallet.io
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thanks , use of freewallet did work great.
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How many devs do we still have?
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Any update this week?
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John has been pretty regular with his updates, latest:
> past week we had to dedicate the whole week to another contract which needed some attention, this week we will be doing some work on the networked game mechanics and inclusion of some functionality for card abilities -
I'm glad we're getting a weekly status at least now
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even if things are slow, its nice to know whether stuff is being done, or on hold
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as opposed to wondering
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Right now I'm tired of waiting, so I'm going to explore the idea of staking pepecash (staking non-inflationary digital assets in general for something that isn't the asset)
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Will hopefully have some rudimentary experiment up before the weekend's end, we'll see
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Bitcorns has explored the idea a little bit
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I think Bitcorns is moving to ERC20, right?
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Not sure
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What is the best wallet for this coin?
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Interesting
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CIPs don’t have anything to do with. Meth
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Admin?
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😄
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- 19 May 2019 (16 messages)
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Anyone having trouble logging in to counter wallet
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at this moment there is no active exchanges, do you plan to add xcp on a new exchange?
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freewallet io is a good one.
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hey there
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I believe you can trade on tuxexchange
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Where is Cp Dex?
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if you trade Rare Pepe cards you can also access it through rarepepewallet.com and if you trade Spells of Genesis cards they have their own trading thing also called casa tucan or something like that
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For SoG but also other collections there is https://app.bookoforbs.com web application. Casa Tookan is a mobile wallet application for counterparty and ethereum with a Counterparty dapp browser where you can access web apps like Book of Orbs but also any ethereum dapps.
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- 20 May 2019 (21 messages)
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i mean, do you plan to add it on a good exchange? tuxexchange has ridiculous volume
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I would expect all volume now on bittrex will shortly be moving to tux and I don't know what you mean by "do you plan to add it to other good exchange. " Please note that counterparty has no marketing budget, all people active here trying to help are volunteers doing this in their spare time and there is no foundation or company that is in charge of promoting getting on exchanges. If you want to see XCP listed on some other exchange please help by contacting them yourself and telling them you want to trade XCP. The more users do this the better. Meanwhile we have the DEX which works just fine and tux which I would not be talking badly about considering they are the only ones that have not started delisting XCP yet.
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where can i find the dex?
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can i exchange xcp for btc?
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Yeah, you can buy there 69 xcp close to market price...hope it gets more used now, multi send feature is very expected J-;)
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which are the actual situation for the project? what can we expect in the future?
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Anyone else having problems logging into counterwallet?
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Try clicking coindaddy one, which is blue. There’s been an issue with the other the last couple days.
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Ok thanks man, I'll try this.
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Just noticed indexd died on counterwallet.io... restarting it now... should start working normally again shortly.
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Good to hear, thanks!
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Yeah working again, thanks J-Dog👍
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- 21 May 2019 (18 messages)
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so can we use seg-wit addys?
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will a bcX address work with rarepepewallet?
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can I run a xcp node with a casa?
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No
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Hi..i just download freewallet..how do i create xcp add??..
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Anyone can help?
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I thought they were just delisting low volume coins. What was the full list?
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Right, but which coins did they delist this time?
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Your Bitcoin address functions as an XCP address.
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Assets will show up in that balances tab
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So..i just send xcp to the btc address in freewallet or counterwallet and the balance for xcp will show up by itself..correct?
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Thanks
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You will need Bitcoin to pay miner’s fees in that address to send the XCP or other assets you may acquire.
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Ok
- 22 May 2019 (10 messages)
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I don’t know if it helps at all, I spoke to someone at bittrex that I may collaborate with on other things. He said he did not know about counterparty but it sounds like an interesting project and that most likely the delistings are a business decision based on community support (aka trading volume). It may be worth some ppl who understand XCP well having a chat to bittrex, explain to them the number of authentic users. Provide a roadmap for how XCP will create trade volume and ask bittrex if they’ll support the project.
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Thank you. What do our community need to do to back you up?..
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The Bittrex founders are in this business since a looong time, they know XCP, and I fear they know really well what they are doing
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just pushed cip6 to develop to do some testing
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I have a question about how XCP/BTC trades work on the DEX. I matched an order that was on the books, however the tx didn't go through, in the sense that I didn't get the BTC...
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i tried cancelling this tx, but it's stuck as "pending"... my xcp are still caught up in the tx... does this mean that i'll get the btc?
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That just shows you that your order matched for 20 blocks.... IF the other party actually pays for the order with a btcpay transaction, then you will get your BTC.... after 20 blocks the order match will expire if unpaid (as most btc matches on the DEX do)
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You can use freewallet.io desktop wallet as it has built-in auto-btcpay feature so it will automatically detect order matches and pay them, or notify you of the match and give you a 1-button click to pay the BTC
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I need a good desktop to use from iOS
- 23 May 2019 (85 messages)
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Binance Records Order Volume Higher Than 2017 Bull Run
https://cryptopotato.com/binance-records-order-volume-higher-than-2017-bull-run/Binance Records Order Volume Higher Than 2017 Bull RunThe crypto market has seen comparatively higher activity in the altcoin sector lately as top exchange Binance recorded extraordinarily high levels of
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I have a transaction in my casa tokan app that says I received counterevent tokens, anyone know what this is?
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Me too
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What is?
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Spam
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looked like a scam
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that would be funny if xcp is higher on DEX after delist date. not selling and may buy thousand xcp
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thx for help. binance dosnt change mind when delist. but bitrx has in past relist coins that were delist. maybe 1 chanse for us
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@jdogresorg are u or anyone talk with btrx at moment? maybe chanse
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haven't talked with them yet
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been running around with some issues here on my side
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i'm almost sure XCP is being seen as a security (token platform) so that makes listing it a risk
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however, the new CIP that's being developed will make getting XCP with BTC a breeze
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How can it be? There was no ICO 👀
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XCP from outer space. Undefinable.
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nope.... been asked repeatedly, every once in a while from bittrex if "there was an ico, or any other thing that makes XCP a security"
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yup
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and the fact that it was a simultaneous removal is pretty telling too
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yup
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once again, technology goes faster than law
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so, it's just a matter of time before XCP and the like gets its time under the spotlight once again
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just look at faketoshi pumping bsv by doing criminal stuff like filing a fake copyright claim
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wtf ... Can they delete ETH first please?
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SEC would not attack a project like XCP, where nobody received anything from PoB and there is no central authority, that would be quite a waste of time and money
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They take cases they can win.
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They don't want to set bad precedent and have it blow up in their faces
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yeah, same here in France
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yeah that's a very optimistic view - additionally this isn't just about time and money
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I could see the argument being made that XCP facilitates the creation of securities
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Or has a Dex to purchase them
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But it's all really cagey
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In an actual court case, they would have to rigidly define what's being banned
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Which would mean defining what a btc tx 'is'
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Which is a template for speech
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And that gets dicey fast
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What Colour are your bits? - Ansuz - mskala's home page
There's a classic adventure game called Paranoia which is set in an extremely repressive Utopian futuristic world run by The Computer, who is Your Friend. Looking at a recent LawMeme posting and related discussion, it occurred to me that the concept of colour-coded security ...
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I love this article
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It's really nice as contrast to my usual computer science lens
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I need to remind myself that law works differently sometimes
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thx for the updates from admin
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its been depresing but still hope