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hello

Can anyone send BTC from any counter party wallet to a dispenser address and receive xcp tokens in exchange?

yes

there are other variables as well, like to make sure the dispenser is still open... but yeah

Ok thanks. Lets say I create a dispenser with 100 tokens in escrow for $5 worth of btc each.. what happens if someone sends $6 or $12 worth of btc to the address?

The dispenser will vend as much as possible to you for the price you pay

if the price is $5 per token and you send $6... you get 1 token and you just sent $1 extra

if the price is $5 per token and you send $10... you get 2 tokens

if the price is $5 per token and you send $12... you get 2 tokens and you just sent $2 extra

so... make sure to send only the correct amount to a dispenser 🙂

it would be more ideal/practial to keep the discussion to amounts of btc. the complication being that prices are set in btc... purchase is paid in btc. no change given. no computed exchange rate

Got it. Thanks. I’m working on some animal share ideas. I could just tell buyers to buy bitcoin on cash app, download free wallet, send btc to their wallet, send to the dispenser. Then they have tokens they can use to redeem for beef or pork or whatever. Perhaps too many steps, but pretty straightforward.

Yes setting the price in bitcoin would be better

for a CSA type organization the existing system could be used in a way that those that hold beef tokens get paid milk tokens through the dividend process//

cool.. everywhere you see me use $ replace it with BTC... .easy fix

i want to sell a token 5btc per!

Yes I was thinking of using a different token for the actual redeeming by sending them with dividend function. Or you could send out vote tokens to vote on harvest/pickup dates or something

Buying pepecash can anyone hook it up direct? $50 best offer.

Thx ahead

Your prolly best off buying from a dispenser if you need it fast

http://xchain.io/tx/49c0ddcb9df67184f3cfc4a0c77bbe732cbd2cbebd96af32f2b443c6c2106696

Nothing

When Exchange

Exchange built into the protocol.... if you mean a centralized exchange, they ALL require a listing fee. If you want to pay some BTC to get an asset listed on an exchange, go for it. Otherwise probably best to use the decentralized exchange (DEX) that is built into the platform

An ally hooked it up. I think dispensers are very cool. There’s always concern the static exchange rate won’t be competitive.

Is this Robbie D?

When I get a spinning wheel on the FreeWallet iOS app, how do I know if the send is going to actually work? Just wait until it shows up in history? Is there a way to know it failed?

Yes, gotta just wait for it to work or throw an error... it’s been a couple years since I touched the mobile wallet code

If anyone wanna hang out with us at this super cool art show please come visit

https://twitter.com/GusGrillasca/status/1259884360733507584?s=19

here i'm showing some Counterparty art tokens ☝️

Love it , great work 😎

how? by scamming other people?

Are the testnet counterwallets down for anyone else?

counterwallet.io shows that both seem to be up

if they are not working for you, you can try freewallet.io desktop wallet, as it also supports testnet (just go to the settings screen and switch the setting to testnet)

https://i.gyazo.com/eec6b4c4169a172e8935fa7f90625837.png

I can't log on with my passphrase on either server. It just continuously loads. I've tried on 2 different computers and on Chrome and Firefox both with and without private mode

"No counterparty servers are currently available. Please try again later. ERROR: The server is not fully caught up to the blockchain"

Ok, so try a different wallet.. perhaps freewallet.io desktop wallet.... it uses xchain so should have no issues

Will it accept passphrases to login? That's all I have

Yes

Great, thanks

Does FreeWallet iOS Mobile not send for anyone else?

It seems like FreeWallet desktop is the only functioning non-game specific wallet now, right?

I just did an asset send on my iOS device and it seemed to work fine

How long did the wheel spin before it was successful? I give up after a few minutes

It took about 15 seconds... it could just be your requests happening to line up with the public.coindaddy.io API being down

This has happened before

I've noticed that under higher mempool loads (20K+), CP sucks up a bunch more CPU than normal and the API will go down a while, then come back up

I’ll try again soon. The desktop version was able to generate a tx

Not sure if it worked tho since xchain isn’t loading

xchain.io isn't loading for you at all? Perhaps you triggered the DOS protection by making too many requests in a 5 min period.... might want to try hopping on a VPN to switch your IPs and see if xchain.io loads for ya then 🙂

The tx link i was able to get gives a 500 error

I used to be able to work counterwallet so easily. I miss it

How many attempts is normal before someone can send a Counterparty token? I haven’t been able to get a TX to work first try on one single application in MONTHS

Can't answer as to why your having so many issues bro. My experience has been different. Anytime I want to do something on counterparty, I simply go into freewallet.io desktop wallet and do it without any real issues.

You also might want to try freeport.io

should be able to use the same passphrase.... it differs from freewallet in that it generates the transactions in the wallet itself... freewallet just makes a call to the CP API to generate the transaction

so you might have better luck with that wallet 🙂

I’ll try Freeport again.

what is the cheapest fee I can use and have a TX clear within a few blocks?

depends on the size of the transaction... what are you doing? a simple send?... most single send transactions are about 250 bytes... based on current mempool size (https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/), looks like 137-138 satoshis fee per byte will get you into the next block or two..... so 250 bytes x 138 satoshis per byte = 34,500 sats (0.00034500 BTC)... which is about $3.30 in USD

Yeah, just trying to send a single card. It's insane that it costs $3.30 to send a card. I was trying to use a $0.05 fee... i guess that is why it isn't working

i sold the card for 25 xcp... but i value .000345 BTC more than 25 xcp. Oops

well, the mempool is MUCH fuller than normal... 90,000+ pending transactions.... so given that, $3.30 to jump in line in front of 90,000+ other transactions isn't that bad.... but yeah, if you didn't have to send in the next block and could wait a few hours, could send for a much lower fee.... its all about the priority level you want to send your tx at 😛

https://twitter.com/sthenc/status/1260793357334274048

That’s an impressive comparison

Seems like a no-brainer... BTC better than gold, but hey, thats just me 😛

Yeah... $2.75 in fees is cool for moving $750M in bitcoin. Not cool for moving 25 xcp of a shitpost card.

Moving 1 XCP is more expensive than 1 XCP

only if you pay high fees to immediately get it into the next block

able to do sends for 0.00001000 BTC ($0.03) if your willing to wait a few blocks... today is not a good example for "fees", cuz today is not a normal day, most days we have less than 10K transactions, today we have 9x that amount.

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,30d

There is a chart of fees/mempool over the last 30 days... you can see we are at the highest peak right now 😛

I'm on the desktop freewallet, I hit send funds, confirm, and have waited about 10 minutes. is it safe to say this isn't going to process?

i was able to send using freeport with a $.40 fee, but the xchain tx link is broken. hope it works.

it feels like this is the tail end of counterparty

always with the doom and gloom. The CP API is just having issues under heavy mempool load... hence why your request to the API didn't work... not the end of anything.

probably where you are sniffing, yes

sell everything! eat the cat, run for the hills!!?

I want to know whether counterparty supports smart contracts?

and can we run thus chain or node on private network?

Can’t seem to log into any CP wallet- how does freewallet DEX work- u need to buy permission to use DEX or place orders?

Yes, you need FREEACCESS or XCHAINPEPE to access the DEX on Freewallet.

Freewallet DEX works by just downloading it, clicking the "Exchange" tab, and placing an order...easy peasy

Not true, I opened sourced the wallet and opened the FreeWallet DEX interface up to everyone about 4-5 months ago... .also Freewallet is the only wallet which supports using BTC on the DEX.

very generous. nice.

0.9.10+ .... just download the latest version from freewallet.io and you should be good

Try helping with Nibiru networks they done all this with minimal help yet has made history changing accomplishments...

Hi

someone else is having problems, nothing seems to be working

i'm talking tomorrow at 1:30PM EST for Virtual Rare Art Festival - some of my talk will be related to our progress in the process of setting up the XCP foundation

i will post the link tomorrow morning and it will also be recorded for future viewing

hi, is this project dead?

no

I used to love this one
found an old private key with some XCP on it, no wallet is working...

no trades on this tokens...

which one?

Anyone here from UK

counterwallet

both are down

CounterParty system has quite a few tokens

unfortunately you may need to download FreeWallet.io desktop version in order to access the latest features

i have XCP (native)

the official wallets are not practical to upgrade and need an overhaul due to depreciated methods

free wallet can import old wallet from counterwallet seed phrase?

there are plenty of ways to buy or sell xcp. if you are looking to sell your xcp i would recommend setting up a dispenser. this will allow your wallet to automatically dispense sales based on the price you set as soon as btc comes into your wallet

the 12 word seed phrase is universal for all the project. Even new ones like CasaTookan (Book of Orbs) or old ones like Vanilla. in fact, the 12 words is one way to access your btc wallet. You can get the full private key out or use XCP with a private key instead of a phrase.

thanks I will try this wallet

lmk if you need additional assistance. good luck :D

and this is something that will work?

i see no market for this token

there is still difficulty in matching btc orders on theDEX. Because the sales of XCP from dispensers are not aggregated in price, they do not affect the market rate history. ttbomk. if you go to xchain.io/asset/xcp and click on dispensers, there is a list of all open and closed. by looking through each, you can determine current prices

unlike a trade offer, dispensers do not expire. Therefore you should set the price at what you are willing to part with it at. As the days go by the market will fluctuate in the order will become more or less appealing. If you are wanting to sell right now, then the price should be slightly below current market offers

is btc dead?

counterwallet may be the official wallet, but it was by the previous foundation that dissolved some two+ years ago.

there is a wallet that is still in development. It belongs the creator @jdogresorg who also runs xchain.io
afaik the desktop versions are fully functioning and even resolve issues like selling xcp on theDEX

so what are the market prices today?
do any one here want to buy?

so for that matter, if you are going to use FreeWallet.io desktop, you might as well use theDEX to trade. Make sure to pay attention to the auto-realesae function when placing the order

im in the market for XCP

but im not rich, lol

btw my first blockchain project was on counterparty

a lot of water want under the bridge since than

https://counterwallet.io/ is reporting that both servers are showing as down

nice. a few minutes ago both were red

there are often complaints that it does not work when green as well. PLUS it seems that there is a high average tx fee in the network making typical actions difficult or expensive

Yes...me too

this high fee is the fault of btc?

Use freewallet.io desktop wallet

J...nothing works

"nothing works"

https://i.gyazo.com/b4358f50af0d8fd3fc5e8013570b960a.png

wonder how it is that transactions are still in mempool and being processed in blocks if nothing is working

This hairpepe is mine

3 days ago i put the order

and it got into a block 2 hours ago

ok... that is a FEE issue

No confirmations

ie you paid a low fee

and there were 90K tranactions in the memppol

so CP is working fine

you just paid a low fee

But, this is problem is for btc?

and your transaction didn't get sent for a long time

0.15 is a good fee for me

if you want your tx sent fast... send a higher fee

🤷🏻‍♂️

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I sent a tx during the halvening in 1 block cuz I paid a $3.50 fee.... so.... if you pay a high enough fee, BTC works fine... if you pay a low fee, pleaes don't complain about your transaction "not working"

spend lots of time trying to solve peoples issues when 99.9% of the time the solution is... either send more BTC to the address... or pay a higher TX fee

I think paying more than that to send a card to a friend, it was not worth it.

I am restarting counterparty/counterblock on both servers.... should be back up in a few minutes

I have tried to find a solution, maybe not easy and pleasant for some, but yes, I think it would be great😞

look beyond what we have before us, be better

imagine if the post office could charge more for overnight shipping on xmas eve

but my package wasn't delivered overnight... the system is broken

you want overnight shipping on nye? pay for it

I will not bring up the subject again, I think you know what I think, and if you stopped to see it 5 min, zero that you would see it too

"get in line"

I am waiting a week for my package to be deliverd... the system is broken

so i went to the post office and thew them some pocket change and said "make it work"

and left my package there for them to deal with. im going to call my public works manager to find out why it was not delivered yet. surely if i go to the water department they can help me

the metaphor needs work, but it could be a great commic

Seems work now

Freewallet and rarepepewallet works for me

As has been stated in here numerous times... counterwallet sucks and is broken most of the time... please use an alternative wallet like freewallet.io

If you are having issues with counterwallet (as most do), please consider using an alternative wallet from www.counterparty.io/wallets . The most easy to use wallet which has the most up to date Counterparty features is Freewallet.io Desktop Wallet. If your having issues with counterwallet.io, please consider using freewallet.io BEFORE complaining about counterwallet.

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Why not fix counterwallet since it’s official xcp wallet?

😂

Old unmaintainable software

It's only unmaintainable at the current price point

Who's gonna fund the new wallet tho?

Exactly

Anything is maintainable if you throw enough money at it

I would rather spend that money in a new wallet anyways

Knockout.js is showing it's age

And it uses bitcore deprecated lib

I understand fees are a problem. but it's hard because when I use freewallet I don't get a transaction confirmation and when I use freeport my xchain tx confirmations are 500 errors.

I understand that it is extremely expensive to use counterparty these days, but even the two "working" wallets don't seem to be working exceptionally well... even when using high fees

im not sure if you live in a vortex, or have great expectations... I managed to get an order set on theDEX for an affordable fee today. I needed to be patient and wait for the desktop freewallet.io, but i clicked the button three dozen times it seems... as eventually, i had one confirmation and a TON of errors. Shoulda clicked it and left it alone for a minute. oh well. also... with counterwallet... it just needs to be reloaded and tried again. sometimes 20 or 30 times over two or three days. they are functional... which is pretty impressive seeing as how it is so old and has not been updated to be up to par with development in the last... four years? five? idunno. seems like a long time measured in blocks

lets play what if:
what if there was a CIP for a new wallet? would you send btc there? if not, how do you suggest this issue be handled by the community? I mean anyone is able and free to spin up their own full node and code their own wallet, gus did. Depends really what your personal dedication level is to functionality that you want to achieve.

ccs.getmonero.org

would they appreciate using monero to raise funds for another project?

The CCS is open source

I was more implying that some 'trusted custodian' in the XCP ecosystem could set one up with a different base currency

I wasn't suggesting fundraising in monero, my bad

thanks for clarifying

ok, got it. Reload the wallet 30 times over three days to make an expensive tx with no confirmation that may or may not go through. good plan.

@wampum weren't you elected as part of the XCP foundation? Weren't you guys supposed to figure this shit out?

are you effective with rhetorical questions?

if anyone has an actual question id be happy to answer with specifics... by repeating any information already publicly available.

I'm not going to sit here and try to convince a negative nancy that they are mistaken. Upgrading someones' abstract concept of an interconnected system with so many variables is not easily done in person or during a respectful conversation let alone with some drive-by comments. The irony is lost on the shallow who mistakenly behave as if being part of the bad-news post office is a form of constructive contribution.

the new Foundation will make another statement and hold another meeting as soon as it can and it is needed. Until then feel free to exert as much effort as you expect others of doing. Diffusion of responsibility should not be confused with decentralized teamwork

I appreciate the foundations official response. Can we add these instructions to https://counterparty.io/wallets/ to help prevent further confusion?

1. To use Freewallet.io desktop
2. Click transact using high fee 36 times
3. Wait a long time
4. Ignore errors

To access counterwallet
1: reload page 30 times over 2 or three days

I think it's important to remind people that these services are still 100% functional and that they have particular instructions that may not be obvious to non foundation members?

Might also want to add a disclaimer that if someone doesn't have the time or patience to do this, that they can just code their own wallet.

dont conflate the conversation.

you got no official response from the foundation.

thanks for taking the time to draft a response ignoring my attempt to help you

you surely remind me of the mental trappings of the communities previously favourite bridge dweller

i used this opportunity to find humour and make a satire
https://twitter.com/techiese/status/1262406382290157581

goes to show that i am chatting to the room at this point and interactions with you are proven fruitless

If you look at the uptime of the public counterparty API over the last year, you can see that is is up and working the majority of the time.
http://platform.counterparty.io/5565144/history

This chart prettymuch sums up the issues... The current issues (as I have said numerous times) is being caused by a large mempool (more than 20K transactions). As you can see in this chart, during the last 4-5 days (when the mempool has been rekt) Counterparty has been having some issues with the API staying up (the API drops offline while parsing a block).
http://platform.counterparty.io/5565144/2020/05

Wheeler, I am sorry that your experiencing issues, but the current issues have been explained to you. If you choose to just ignore the reasonable explanation that has been given to you and instead choose to continue stomping your feet and saying "it no work", then there is nothing I can do about that.

You have asked your question of freewallet/counterwallet and it has been answered at LEAST 10-15 times by myself personally. If you would like to actually help out counterparty by doing something other than sitting in your armchair and bitching, then I would suggest you try that route as your constant complaining is getting you nowhere except closer to the exit.

At this point it appears your just here to be disruptive. I would advise you to review the counterparty community standards and abide by them lest you get removed for being disruptive.

This is your one warning about being disruptive. Please refrain from continuing to complain about the same issues again and again when you have already received the answer many times.

Some users including myself have been unable to transact despite high fee usage. The fact that those users look past our current wallet shortcomings speaks to the value of the tech, but it won't be that way forever. Unfortunately "up and running" does not equal "functional" or even "useable" at times.

the root of the problem is that there's no funding for improvement on this issue, and any solution for these issues (high mempool load = unstability, new wallet, etc)

starts by raising funding

we are trying to get there

yup

i will post my talk here when the link is up

we want to be sure to do it RIGHT

awesome

it's a process, XCP foundation is a corperation at this point

😱

the IRS ain't that fast sorry

if there's enough funding i have several good ideas to Make Counterparty Great Again

if we accepted any money in our current state it would be complete shit show with where we are trying to get

they just need funds because dev time ain't cheap and i simply cannot do it... aaaalooooneeee

please allow us a little more time, then I hope you will all shill away

🎉🎉🎉

Dude... that's pretty harsh. I've taken all your advise and still have had issues getting tx to work. I know I'm not the only one b/c i'm trying to trade with someone in the same situation.
Look at Wampum's note, he said it took 3 days, 30 reloads and 36 TX to get one send to work. It sounds like my TX did go through, and I ended up sending more cards than I wanted to because I didn't have visibility into what was actually happening.

The reason for the downtime has been explained to you numerous times, and yet rather than accepting it and waiting for the problem to resolve itself (mempool drop in usage), you want to continue to come here and complain a BUNCH about things which have been explained to you numerous times. It gets exhausting... took almost a month of you complaining about counterwallet to get you to FINALLY use Freewallet.. now that your using Freewallet, anytime it does not work immediately to send your complaining about how Counterparty sucks and how it is all broken and other negative shit. It gets exhausting listening to your constant complaining

i've been complaining about Counterwallet for 3 years.

Yeah, as have I.. it is a horribly designed wallet which sucks... hence why I wrote FreeWallet, cuz I couldn't stand to use counterwallet anymore.... others have done the same.. Joe wrote Freeport... people who are unhappy and actually want to make things better are contributing more than harsh words and criticisms.

Thank you for all your help j-dog. I'm not criticizing you. I've worked on products in the past, I figured that people would want to know when something isn't working. I'll just suffer in silance.

At this point it seems the choke point is Freewallet needing to have a Counterparty API up in order to generate transactions.... if the CP API goes down, then freewallet is unable to generate transactions.... this has not been a big issue in the past up until this week with all the CP API downtime.... so I will work on updating freewallet to remove the dependency on the CP API being up and will try to get all the transactions to be generated inside the wallet with no external calls.

If you want to help, please log your issues in a github issue and wait for a response... 1.) it will for sure get a response 2.) it will stay open until the issue is fixed ... 3.) You don't sound like a broken record constantly complaining about it not working or fees.

https://github.com/jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop/issues

At this point 99.9% of your issues are jsut being caused by the CP API and a large mempool... once the mempooll drops back to around 10-15K transactions, things should start working normally again

i concur, most issues get solved eventually on any of the ecosystem's projects

i've actually taken that advice before and it got fixed - just to say he is not being facitous about that

telegram complaints are okay if a server just needs to be restarted and the owner doesn't know it's down

I believe it. I'll log my next issue once I'm brave enough to transact again

but if its a bug you can replicate and document it's helpful

Should Counterwallet.io be removed from https://counterparty.io/wallets/? Indie Square's description makes it sound like there's a working dex, which I don't think it has anymore, right?

nope, the dex was removed from ISW

three years of such emboldened conflations has become tiresome.
i have attempted to help you see beyond the end of your nose but you continually try to rend my message. im no longer tossing pearls in your general direction. get a new sock im done smelling this one

if anyone else in the room has the capacity to handle talking about two different things at the same time I'd be happy to expand on the usage of either wallet and how they differ from what I've been able to do without going to extraneous measures

Patience can never be attained as it is a virtue who's invitation to practice is more often than recognized. please forgive me if I do not have the emotional fortitude to continually interact with an onslaught of insecurities based on fallacies when confronted with the opportunity for growth of understanding.

while it is true that I was elected to the foundation and act on the behalf of the betterment of the entire protocol, this account is, has and always will be my personal account. I cannot believe i have to say this but: anything i say does not represent anyone or anything else. these messages are my own

It seems to me we came to this space around the same time. So I have to ask if you think you're participating on the same level of dedication then any of your peers you associate with beyond your farms. But I won't because I expect your responses to continually mangle the conversation in order to never get any traction of understanding shared.

If your talent is creating conflict from your own ignorance, then i think you should reconsider those actions being beneficial to anyone. Thanks

VM

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Haha anthony, that voting is closed....

Hahahaha

@chiguireitor is it possible to remove the bot? it seems that it still asks the questions to users who have not been here for while

Which bot?

The polling one that keeps showing options to vote

Pollbot

Hello

New wallet

PollBot has been removed from the channel and should no longer prompt new users

Also, I have written a monitoring script for Counterparty which detects when the API goes down for more than a few minutes and restarts counterparty.... this is not ideal, but it should help keep the API up and functioning the majority of the time while we are dealing with this huge mempool that has been causing issues for the past week or so.... TL;DR... should have less issues when trying to use freewallet.io desktop wallet 🙂

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So testnet has all the same wallet security as bitcoin but token data is just hosted on a centralized server? You could just clone testnet and have your own centralized bitcoin security token database?

Sure. Call it Ripple2?

New wallet

Testnet is just for testing bitcoin/counterparty transactions and is not really meant to be used for long-term storage... also it is nowhere near as secure as the main chain, has a much lower difficulty, and other issues like blocks being spammed every minutes occasionally. Bitcoin Testnet is also reset occasionally by the devs (tho it has been a few years)..... TLDR.. testnet is really only meant for testing.

Now works very well

http://platform.counterparty.io/5565144/2020/05

Lots more green uptime the past few days😀👍🏻

Yeah lol

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/cip22/cip-0022.md

OOne of the first CIPs to solve the current issues related with counterwallet

please pin

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Hello, everyone!
I'm looking for someone I can talk to about cooperation. Please let me know if you're ready to talk.

greetings

@Needmoney90 you know if there's something up with the spambots not filtering spammers?

I don't.

Hmm

😂

modern problems

Call for modern fantasies

require feeding our robot overlords

Which paper to get for counter feit money

What is the current price of XCP? Google reckons around $1.03. Does this seem about right?

front page of xchain.io shows $1.05.... that number comes directly from coinmarketcap.com

There are $3 XCP on this dispenser - http://xchain.io/tx/566810825f6d602d63621d4fd4226f9e5a385024a0baf0cd5b93dd8d45611a2d

coinmarketcap shows a single market pair - Zaif (xcp/jpy). Does anyone here communicate with coinmarketcap on behalf of XCP?

Not that I am aware of. I am considering updating the price on xchain.io to be the last DEX/Dispenser price since we are not traded on traditional centralized exchanges much.

At one point, coinmarketcap had support for the DEX and all the DEX trading volume counted towards the daily volume.... but then they removed DEX support a few years ago 🙁

recent pricing in btc from both dispensers and theDEX would be a nice indicator of current value

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