Nice! Miners would probably like to see CP grow

"Counterparty, the Maximalist project to pamp that tx fee markets ;)"

Exactly. It never occurred to me that maybe miners would like to support and see CP grow.

1162 sends in last 24 hours. MPMA working great 🔥

When I clicked the send tab and saw all of that activity, I was wondering what I was missing. Then I saw it was your address and figured you were loading up your cards.

Yea. I might reach out to a few miners.

Low tx fees must kill their operations bottom line, making them sell more Bitcoin to cover costs. Wish the miners were banned from China 😝

Anyone else notice that the excellent Book of Orbs is working again? Whoever did that, thank you!

Error composing send transaction via API: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable

What is it mean?

multisend doesnt work now?

if you would not mind, could you post or pm a screen shot?

are you using counterwallet or freewallet?

FW

Multisend works... but it still has some kinks to workout apparently... try removing a send or two, or adding another one to the list...

Just did multisend, worked great on Freewallet.

I have 280k pepecash stuck on dex trade, submited a request 2days ago

Damn i dont like that….

Next time i will hodl it till 1$

Fk me

People complained a couple times about them being very slow . But they eventually go through imo . Patience :) you ll get em

Yes thanks 🙏

buy lambo when it gets to 1$

Is pepecash still trading?

im seeing 136 Buy with PEPECASH orders on the Big Board at RarePepeWallet.com
so yeah, it seems to be trading in the way it was intended, as a base pair for the RarePepe colleciton

Dextrade listed PepeCash recently plus can sell via dispensers / dex

Thank you

👍

there are not as many offers for PEPECASH orders. i would encourage any collector to put a fair buy order out for each work if they are interested in trading

i got a SHITCOINCARD below market value by putting a buy order out there. someone filled it eventualy :D

FreeWallet.io desktop wallet has a dispensers tab and in the settings menu is a check box to toggle show open dispensers only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG07x3aN3b0

Nice!

FFS, I take back that compliment to whoever fixed Book of Orbs temporarily YOU CRUEL PEOPLE!

sad

That was a great way to see so many Counterparty collections. No real replacement for most.

Really need to speed up on my project 😔

Ouch, you even posted about it after their supposed inactive date.

I took screenshots of my old Memorychain, Oasis Mining, Bitgirls, etc. - no way to see many of the old collections in a nice way now. Only groups with their own way to view and manage collection is Rarepepes, Bitcorns, Mafiawars - nothing against those but there are a lot of old collections like Penisium, Diecast, etc. that are left without any good choices now.

afaik their newer site will have continued support
https://orbexplorer.com/

a great place to show off your own collection in a url
https://orbexplorer.com/address/?address=1CQ8iuxrkf4DWsFttDtwyRbrJT8U4R212E

Thanks, I had no idea!

http://res.indiesquare.me/tokens/images/ORIGINOFBOO.PNG

Fixed the link - site owner does not have a valid server cert (expired 2 days ago)

BoO let us trade and see market data from within the app, I hope orbexplorer.com adds that.

Rare.estate

Pulls from digirare

Also Freeport will show anything that’s on digirare

1 week and my pepecash still on dex trade hotwallet

I forget to put memo during my deposit

Request still on the way with another transaction to prove im the owner of the wallet :)

Never forget memo guys

Freewallet on mobile dont let you put memo

Be carefull

Hello guys, any good news recently?

this is partly dex-trade.com's fault.... as I have requested many times that they do a broadcast of OPTIONS 1 from their hotwallet which will prevent Counterparty from doing sends to their wallet without a memo (counterparty would refuse to generate the transaction if it did not include the memo)

Doing my best to help them make it easy and cut down on their support costs... but, can only suggest it to them so many times 🙁

Error composing order transaction via API: Insufficient BTC at address 1....z. (Need approximately 0.00091446 BTC.) To spend unconfirmed coins, use the flag --unconfirmed. (Unconfirmed coins cannot be spent from multi‐sig addresses.)

balance is .7 BTC with no pending trx... what's my issue?

are there any pending transactions in that wallet?
are you using the most recent version of freewallet desktop?

no and yes

sometimes changing the default settings helps

switched to another API already but the error message is oddly specific

gonna clear all local files and reimport

have you used the same program with different wallets?

yeah I use an umported privkey

naww.. that won't do anything... error is coming from CP API server, not freewallet.. so messing with freewallet files and uninstall/reinstall wont solve sheit

gimme 10... gonna restart the 2 API servers... could be addrindexrs stopped talking to CP or something... brb

I tried the different api settings so I'm doing all the steps before DMing you again ^^

whee it DID help

I had the same problem. I think the issue is that your address has too many small utxo's

has exactly 1

@DennisDaiber Try your request again... just restarted both the fednodes... seems that for some reason addrindexrs stopped parsing new blocks (so any newer UTXOs were not being seen by counterparty API)

Will probably do as you suggested and get the API servers on an auto-restart every 24 hours or so... hopefully minimize this issue going forward

☹️

did the restart resolve your issue? Yes or no?

yessir!

cool.. will setup auto-restart later today

just placed an order successfully

thanks!

of course... sorry your having issues... should be less in the future 🙂

will start with restart every 24 hours... if still having issues, will restart every 12.. if still having issues, will restart every 6 hours 🙂

would be nice if addrindexrs would stay up and connecting and parsing blocks... but, at least we have solution to resolve via restart

The hackers of the colonial pipeline sent their BTC to Coinbase 😂

They can hack the energy grid but send their BTC to Coinbase. Like wtf.

From a friend: My buddy that hacks for the CIA says that they had a hot wallet on a VPS that the feds broke into.

I haven't read the details if they've said it was coinbase or not, but I doubt they were that stupid... although using a VPS that was located in the US to store a wallet is not smart

The answer!!

It's all a bit sus and fishy

They sent it to a custodian provider I think like Coinbase.

Yea, it doesn’t make sense.

It seems like they were just using a server to store their keys, which the FBI was able to access and swipe. It just happened to be in Northern California, where Coinbase is/was located (didn't they move or no longer have an HQ binance-style?)

Why would you use a server to store your private keys?

It makes no sense, but 99.999% of the population won't care to understand.

LOL... can you please cite the source for this?

if you get any tech details on what "seized" means.. please share... if it is just dummies sending to a custodial wallet like coinbase, or feds getting keys off a server.. that is fine... but I imagine the hackers are not dumb, and were storing funds on a hardware wallet... so "seizing" the funds from that should be a bit scary for all of us.... please share any details as you get them

If they had a node on vps that means node on cloud which means keys on cloud which means can force infra operator to grant access and then extract key

Makes me think of the Ross Ulbricht arrest, where they were very careful to make sure he was logged into his laptop and then to make sure it was not closed so they’d have access to it.

Thx corn.. much appreciated.. can sleep a bit better

I don’t think anyone has been arrested in this case

Dex trade solve my deposit problem

Still missing 7k pepecash but it’s ok

They are serious

I asked about 30 random people at BTC2021 if they knew of Counterparty, none did.

Sounds bad, but we should look at it as more of a opportunity than anything.

Most of the OGs knew what it was. Some of them were surprised to learn that it was still around.

please tell me that I tried send XCP, but I cant send it , error is that you dont have enough BTC.....
I have enough BTC......why I cant???

if this was a recent deposit it may take time to propagate within the system

Sometimes the BTC is broken up into smaller amounts. I suggest adding $5 or $10 of BTC to your wallet.

the total amt of bitcoin in the wallet should be close to 0.006 if possible

Wow that's major. People will not loose money.

This is an interesting feature.

What other options are there? How does this work?

Yea, I mean I was just asking random people I was walking by. I’m sure a bunch did, but the average Joe had no idea.

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0012.md

Basically... the wallet broadcasts "OPTIONS 1" to tell Counterparty to generate transactions to this address unless they include a memo.... so any wallet that tries to call to a CP API to generate a send transaction to a wallet which has broadcast "OPTIONS 1" gets an error message back saying that they can't generate the transaction without a memo.... preventing sends without memos

the longer-term plan is to add support for additional options for addresses... like perhaps OPTIONS 2 for some other options.... ideas were only allowing a certain number of sends to an address, or only allowing certain addresses to deposit (would require broadcasting a list of acceptable addresses), etc etc.... John basically built a generalized "options" system for wallet addresses.... and the only "OPTION" that is defined right now is 1 = memo requirement

Yep... been saying for a long time that one of the major issues with CP is NOT development... but lack of marketing/promotion.... no one is aware of us because we do not have budget to get out there and get Counterparty in front of people.... just making people aware of it, many are like "woah, this is awesome! I didn't know something this cool and easy existed".... hence why I have been pushing for marketing/outreach/promotion for so long..... but the community felt that Exchange listings were more important... so listened to the community and pushed for the exchange listings... we now have exchange listings, and no real serious volume.... I still think marketing/outreach/promotion is what CP needs

i like that. perhaps option 0 could be to make sure the sending address is XCP aware by checking to see if there are some of any token reducing the likelyhood that the sender is paying such a flagged dispenser from an exchange yielding an error for the exchange

zero day check ;D

Funds for marketing/outreach/promotion would include ads, paying to write articles, paying for fun hackathons to bring devs into the platform and write cool stuff and pay a prize winner (we had this in the beginning, got some cool stuff written by chris derose and other devs.... but as we stopped getting eyes on us, the project popularity declined).... CP is an amazing platform that will continue to function (i'll keep supporting it forever I think), but it needs more people aware of it for it to gain any real traction IMO

Wow, this is pretty sic. The options is amazing, considering Bitcoin is push only.

Amazing how many things CP can do. I mean, I had no idea about this. This is the whitelists or whatever that could be built using options?

They had this dumpster at BTC2021

No one lit it on fire?
🗑️🔥 🚒 Lol

It was like a 100 degrees, no one wanted fire 😂

I emailed Marathon this morning, hopefully they respond.

Yes... we could expand this feature to support whitelists... not a fan of whitelists, but YES... could a.) broadcast a list of addresses using the normal broadcast tool and then b.) broadcast OPTIONS 2.... which could then tell the system to only allow sends from this address to addresses in the whitelist... or vice-versa... only allow sending to this address FROM addresses in the whitelists

Is there a community manager now?

Hmm…. The whitelists could be a way to protect ones own assets from getting hacked by whitelisting only a few addresses you control and then adding someone’s address only when needed.

Very close to having one.... just finalizing the details of the job description and expectations, etc.. but yes, plan to announce the new community manager in the next few days... and expect we will start putting out a newsletter every month, as well as start having regular developer meetings to discuss current state of things, chat about what people are working on, etc.... I am aware of at least 4-5 cool projects being built on Counterparty right now under the radar... lots going on, will be nice for others to start seeing some of the activity that only I am aware of

Screen shot of pack opening. People will be able to buy packs for $X and then open them digitally and can either trade or withdraw.

The software randomly selects each card in the pack.

Over 40 possible cards in a pack.

Dex-trade charged me 6000pepecash for my deposit

That’s incredible

Trying to use the BTC room to push CP

Just did a withdraw request from DEX trade, no problems, withdrew 2500 xcp with no problems. Let’s see how long it takes to receive.

Probably because you didn't send with a memo... which required them to go in and manually credit your account... which they had to pay an employee to do..... Yes, it is not the best customer service... but I bet going forward in the future I bet you will remember to use the memo on the send/deposit 😛

Freewallet mobile fault impossible to put a memo on it

But it’s ok with dex trade

I spent the conference trying to target developers specifically. Counterparty is extremely centralized right now, with regards to development.

Agreed... the more developers the better. I am of the opinion that we don't really need to be making a bunch of changes to the protocol at this point, and that most of the development should be taking place in apps/websites/services built on top of Counterparty.... but that also requires developers to be aware of the platform and its current features.

Similar to how Bitcoin is now, base layer does not have much changes going on with it.. incremental changes, all the exciting development stuff is happening on L2 (Lighting, Sidechains, etc)

What do you thinknis the best way to attract new devs to the space

My current method of talking to them individually face-to-face at conferences doesn't scale well.

Hackathons.... Fun competitions where developers compete for a prize.... wind up with a bunch of cool stuff being written that uses/showcases what can be done on Countrparty.... quite often pushing the limits of what can be done on Counterparty, and coming up with creative solutions which people had not thought of.... end result is we get eyes on the platform from developres who want to show they are writing cool stuff and have potential to win prizes and bragging rights, and even the projects which don't win help build out the ecosystem and show what is possible

Unfortunately, this requires funding.... I am working on a separate project which I expect to be a decent success, and I plan to contribute some of the funds/profits I receive from that project directly back into Counterparty to help with marketing/outreach/promotion.... Step 1 is to get out a regular newsletter so people are kept up to date on what is going on and what is being built by people in the ecosystem... step 2 is to start having regular dev meetings again where people can talk about what they are working on and share ideas... step 3 is start having hackathons to attract devs to build stuff on CP.... step3 requires funding, something we are sorely lacking... so the CP community is working on step 1 and 2 with the community manager.. I am workign on securing funds for step 3

https://miamiherald.typepad.com/the-starting-gate/2015/01/miami-bitcoin-hackathon-and-the-winners-were.html

2015... a hackathon... 24 hours to build something cool and showcase it... Chris Derose wrote opidoki... basically a simple way to broadcast any truth to the blockchain using Counterparty.

I Lome the idea of a regular newsletter. How can people participate in that?

*like

The community outreach manager will be responsible for interfacing with the community here, and the projects that are built on counterparty (Spells of Genesis, FoldingCoin, Rare Pepe, Bitcorns, MafiaWars, etc) as well as chatting with individual developers about what they are working on, etc.... once the Community Outreach Manager position is filled and announced, anyone should be able to reach out to this manager and discuss ideas and projects with them... The best way that someone can participate is to just start talking about ideas here, or hop on one of the monthly developer meetings we will start having (perhaps bi-monthly if there is enough interest)

Everyone here kinda just does their own thing and no one is really aware of what anyone else is working on... the goal of the community outreach manager position is to start connecting people with one another, restart discussions about what people love about CP, what they dislike about it, how it could be improved, share ideas etc..... IMO the best way to get things going again and get the creative juices flowing is for it to be very easy for anyone to see all the development going on on CP projects.... rare pepe is a perfect example... one person created it... then Joe enjoyed the idea and built RarePepeWallet... which made it easier for people to engage with the idea/project/cards... more and more people got excited, lots of people built tons of cool stuff.... 4+ years later and we STILL have people building new platforms and tools for rare pepe, and that is just ONE idea that managed to grow generically on CP and take off, and it still is bearing fruit with new projects being developed (tools to create new NFTS, new marketplaces, etc)

This is just what I am thinking... I am just one guy tho that loves Counterparty... I don't have all the answers, I can just speak for what I have seen working in the past and what I think we need to do in the future to get some more eyes/developers/projects on Counterparty

Worst case, we keep doing what we have been the past 5+ years, platform stays alive, some people find CP and love it and build on it, and the platform will survive.... but if we want it to really pick up steam and see it be a decent success in terms of higher price of XCP and more developres and projects building on the platform, we need to make efforts to make it easier to engage iwth the CP community and get updates on what is going on (newsletter and dev meetings)

Yes

Is there an "official" CP YouTube channel?

nope.... nothing official... not many videos out there talking about Counteparty and what you can do/build with it.

It would be cool to have some simple tutorials or walk throughs to show people how simple it can be.

There are some some basic howtos on how to place orders and use wallets and such... but no real videos that talk about how awesome the platform is, what is built on it, what can be accomplished with it, etc.

Yea, that would be cool

100% agree... there are some efforts to put out info on CP, answer FAQs, answer questions, learn about CP, etc.... problem is everyone is an island and works on things on their own, so nothing really gains much traction that way unfortunately... but, as I said, I think the community outreach manager position will help connect the various community members and make it more clear how much work is being done on CP, on what fronts/projects, and that will lead to more shared ideas and better projects/ideas

https://uocp.org/

There is an example of some attempts being made by Xcer to get arms around Counterparty and train people... there are a few other users working on similar efforts (website redesign, documentation revamp, etc)

https://xcpdoc.bitra.re/

There is another example of progress being made on CP... no one is really aware of all of the stuff going on in CP beccause they are all disconnected.... the newsletter and community outreach manager should be able help in those regards... be a central point of contact for projects to reach out to and get mentioned, etc

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This is nice. And I will jump back on uocp

Agree with this sentiment.

pardon my noob

is there a way to bring EVM compatibility of sorts to counterparty?

feel like sovryn would be the way to go if we want to preserve BTC NFTs

otherwise we're gonna end up like a C64 fan club

I don't think that's would be good. EVM is not the end-all-be-all

If someone wants evm on btc, there's rsk

exactly

We had the EVM fully implemented and ready to go back in 2015.... but the community decided against inmplementing it because it was not worth putting the entire CP ecosystem at risk to try out an experimental EVM (at that time, DAO fork had just happened, it was clear ETH was very unstable and very different approach than CP)

hot damn
so dust that off then ^^

NO

OK

I think CP accomplishes (or can accomplish) anything that you would want to do with do with evm, but without the evm.

Imagine a RAREPEPE/BTC liquidity pool

The mindset behind ETH and CP are very different beasts.... CP is all about hard-coded rock solid features (issue, send, dex, etc) and pushing the development of cool stuff up to L2... you can build damn near anything you can build on ETH using CP.... the mindset behind ETH was to write a sandbox that can handle anything, but the end result is that every single smart contact is responsible for their own security, has to roll out their own features, test everything, etc.... This is one of the main differences between CP and ETH.... You continue to see hacks and issues on ETH all the time...yet on CP, the "Send" functionality has worked for many years without any issues.

imagine having to maintain the EVM code with our current resources...

Teehee
Right

Right, cp acts as the base measure of accounting

Rock solid base measure of accounting secured by the worlds most secure network

Imagine having an EVM smart contract that corrupts the balances of the entire CP system... since CP uses a shared ledger or sorts, one flaw in the EVM or smart contract could take the whole thing down... some EVM bug mints XCP by mistake, presto, jsut devalued everyones XCP..... This was one of the main reasons why we decided NOT to roll with the EVM... not worth risking the rock solid features of CP for some experimental EVM..... even 5+ years down the road, this is still the right decision... had we implemented the EVM, pretty sure CP would no longer exist

I think we could implement liquidity pools EASILY if we had token-token dispenser

What is a liquidity pool if not simple 2 token-token dispensers

i think building on emblem vaults is the way to do it

wrapped pepes

all the liquidity is on ETH so send the pepes there

and token to token dispensers can be implemented in the protocol at some point int he future... its just code... but, has to show that there is a DESIRE and NEED for it... think I went over this a few weeks ago... I had written vending machines that sold any token for any other token.... Devon/Tokenly did the same thing with swapbots.... we both wrapped up the projects because it was clear that even tho the idea was great, there was no need yet.... this is another case of we don't need to build "ideas" into the base protocol level until it is clear there is real demand

1% off all BTC is apparently wrapped on ETH

its the most used bitcoin sidechain thats for sure

swapbots enabled this functionality in 2015..... could have one swapbot send directly to another swapbot.... could swap from XCP to SJCX to FLDC to soemthing else... all in a single send... but, again, the project was shut down because there was no desire at the time

hey @Superart was hoping to run into you in miami to get a backpagepepe!

The last Pomp episode with the sovryn dude is really interesting for this discussion

they use rootstock i think

Yes

Devon and I were thinking years ahead.... before there was demand... might be worth reaching out to Tokenly and see if they are intereted in setting up swapbots again... in the liquidity pool/swap context

but is anyone actually using rootstock?

that reminds me ive been meaning to reach out to devon

Couple hundred BTC on there

thats not nothing i guess

A lot of people were ;-)

It's exactly the same as using MATIC or any other Sidechain

Where can I learn about swap bots?

I was just thinking of a way to get RAREPEPE on a "native" EVM chain

Pretty narrow use case tbh

yeah and even then, counterparty cant take advantage of native BTC in the same way the evm on eth can use ETH

That's not a good solution, IMO. A better solution would be to incentivize that liquidity to move over to the CP ecosystem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3La1XmStDQ

its just not realistic

"Tokenly Pockets".... aka.. re-branded XCP Chrome wallet... written by Joe looney many years ago

The mountain coming to the prophet

metamask before metamask

again... thinking years ahead of the market 🙂

was so hard to get people to download a chrome extension in 2015

i abandoned it for a web wallet which turned into rpw

then all of a sudden everyone loves chrome extensions

go figure

Joe was doing NFTs and rare pepe years ago...had some fun, wrapped it up... then poof, 5 years later, people take notice... that is one of the problems with smart people and building for the future... don't get recognition at the time, and by the time they do, they've moved on to other stuff 😛

someone has to lay the groundwork

this is uniswap 5 years before uniswap was created... not exactly, but pretty damn close

For good reasons that are as valid today as ever.

yep, but no one cares

Yup... unfortunately, people care more about "easy" than they do about "secure"... (don't care that plugins can read all content on page and modify stuff... if it is "easy" 🙁 )

the benefit to chrome extensions as a developer is you don't need to run a server

thats the main reason Freeport is a chrome extension

imho people still do not value innovation in this space// only classics are sought after by collectors.

yeah id say the majority just follow the trends

Agree... people see "first NFTs" on CP and come for the value.. not because they see the innovative platform and value of it on a whole... just want to extract the value from the NFTs which happen to be on the platform

Wyckoff trend lol

That seems like a pretty valid way to see it, but at least collecting classics does bring awareness.

the funny thing about CP when talking to bitcoiners is it always comes back to "well it can't scale" or "its too much chain bloat" not that the tech has some inherent issue

"Spamming the blockchain since 2014"

lol exactly

I did not realize this. That’s pretty cool.

so if RPW was a chrome extension and the dex was a site to connect to

freeport is basically rpw turned into a chrome extension

without market

two weeksTM

There is a rare pepe card for every occasion and conversation 🙂

like an xkcd

lol yep

They would argue that those are inherent issues to the tech.

those are inherent issues with bitcoin too

What is the counterpoint to this? Did you get any push back? I’d imagine the ‘hard money’ types would not take kindly to tokenization on top of BTC?

No push back on tokenizing, more pushback if anything about USD 😆

is this extension available? is it still functional?

i think its still in the chrome web store if you search "Tokenly Pockets"

its almost def not working though as its using 2015 APIs that are most likely dead

DEX-trade withdraw complete. Not bad.

No personal info required.

👍

This was discussed earlier her I believe.. scroll up

No feds did not break Bitcoin or crack a private key.. the hackers mis-managed the private key and it made its way to a VPS (Virtual Private Server) which the feds were then able to serve a warrant on the hosting company to obtain access to the server and get the private key and move the funds.... Your no wrong to be concerned, your first thought should be "OMG, the fed just cracked a private key on a hardware wallet, cuz these hackers probably weren't dumb".... but in reality, they were it seems

From a friend: My buddy that hacks for the CIA says that they had a hot wallet on a VPS that the feds broke into.

It seems like they were just using a server to store their keys, which the FBI was able to access and swipe. It just happened to be in Northern California, where Coinbase is/was located (didn't they move or no longer have an HQ binance-style?)

If they had a node on vps that means node on cloud which means keys on cloud which means can force infra operator to grant access and then extract key

Makes me think of the Ross Ulbricht arrest, where they were very careful to make sure he was logged into his laptop and then to make sure it was not closed so they’d have access to it.

Of course, the feds aren't eager to come out and say exactly how they seized the funds... As they would prefer to have people thinking that they can crack bitcoin when they need to... the reality seems to be (from the above messages, and reading a ton of stuff on twitter about this) that the most likely way the feds seized the money was just using the legal system and the hackers making a mistake with their private key.

This fear of feds cracking bitcoin private keys is what made the price dump down to $31K shortly after the seizure announcement

Yea, exactly. Seems almost on purpose.

Why would they be keeping their private keys on a hosted server?

Maybe it was a foreign adversary and they are creating a false flag. $3 million nothing to a nation that can print all the money they want.

Also, why did they only store half their keys?

🤷‍♂️

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerhuang/2020/12/21/heres-why-quantum-computing-will-not-break-cryptocurrencies/?sh=18cb14fd167b

Sleep a bit easier.... more likely that the hackers made a mistake in managing their private keys, or sent to a custodial service, etc.... versus the encryption in Bitcoin being hacked/cracked

Someone should sell carbon credits to Bitcoin miners on CP

Darkside sells their services to others for a cut, so the client was most likely the one who was caught, whereas the group made out with their 10%

Working hard on the BTC room 😆

I wonder theoretically how much XCP one would need to buy to stop the price from falling. There can’t be that much left.

Just have to keep buying all the xcp @DennisDaiber buys on Pepe

Funny, people calling it fake apparently. I think that’s a good sign. 😂

Haha here we go

@Xcer
thanks!!
After I rebooted my counterparty-server , I did it. I dont underdstand why I could'nt send XCP.

Nice you run your own CP server?

Or @jdogresorg rebooted the server. I don’t reboot servers 😆

You should thank him.

@jdogresorg
when I sent XCP, I could'nt ..... After I rebooted my counterparty-server , I did it. I wanna know why this error is occured .

Error log is that "[2021-06-08 17:08:44][INFO] Running v1.1.5 of counterparty-client.
ERROR:root:Unhandled Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/counterparty-client", line 11, in <module>
load_entry_point('counterparty-cli==1.1.5', 'console_scripts', 'counterparty-client')()
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/counterpartycli/__init__.py", line 12, in client_main
client.main()
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/counterpartycli/client.py", line 242, in main
unsigned_hex = messages.compose(args.action, args)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/counterpartycli/messages.py", line 291, in compose
return compose_transaction(args, message, param_names)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/counterpartycli/messages.py", line 282, in compose_transaction
unsigned_tx_hex = util.api(method, params)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/counterpartycli/util.py", line 92, in api
return rpc(config.COUNTERPARTY_RPC, method, params=params, ssl_verify=config.COUNTERPARTY_RPC_SSL_VERIFY)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/counterpartycli/util.py", line 89, in rpc
raise RPCError('{}'.format(response_json['error']))
counterpartycli.util.RPCError: {'message': 'Error composing send transaction via API: Insufficient BTC at address [address]. (Need approximately 0.00025 BTC.) To spend unconfirmed coins, use the flag --unconfirmed. (Unconfirmed coins cannot be spent from multi‐sig addresses.)', 'code': -32001}"

BTC Node had a 15 confirmed utxo (0.0001BTC).....

Yes !!

I still think this error occurs when the largest composed amount of Bitcoin at an address is less than the required amount.

For example. Say you have 0.001 BTC at the address broken up into a bunch of pieces, the largest being 0.0003 and you need 0.00035 for the send, it would read

Insufficient BTC, 0.00005 more BTC needed for the send even though you have 0.001.

Largest composed amount - required amount needed

Why do you run your own server? What do you do with CP?

3 3 9 3

Hassam... it seems that at some times addrindexrs (what tracks BTC addresses and UTXOs/balances associated with those addresses) stops parsing blocks, resulting in incorrect balances being reported for BTC when trying to create a transaction... Restarting the fednode every once in a while fixes this issue as it causes all components to restart, including addrindexrs, which then catches up, recognizes all the UTXOs, and starts reporting correct BTC balances when the CP API communicates with it in order to generate transactions

If you continue to have issues with your fednode giving you BTC balance issues when trying to generate a CP transaction, you may want to restart the fednode via fednode restart, or setup a cron job to automatically restart the Counterparty server every 24 hours or so via crontab:

1.) become user root

2.) pico -w /root/crontab

3.) add the following lines to /root/crontab

# Restart counterparty node every 24 hours (fixes issue with addrindexrs stopping parsing blocks)
0 0 * * * /usr/bin/sudo -u jdog /usr/local/bin/fednode restart 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null

4.) Replace jdog with the username that you have installed fednode as

5.) run crontab /root/crontab to install the job to automatically run every 24 hours via cron

I heard in Miami that this was the real Counterparty group.

Is my boy from XCER in here?

your in the right place... this is the real group.. the other one is a LARP and doesn't really offer any help.. and yup @XCERXCP is here 🙂

Awesome. Thanks for having me. Been a huge fan of Counterparty for about 4 years.

Glad to have you here silverback😀👍🏻

does anyone have any idea what these are?

looks mighty random but hey, might be something cool

I looked into it a little while back, and it is some sort of artist initiative in Japan. I couldn’t find much about any artists or type or arts though.

Thanks .... J-DOG !!!!
Is this a adderindexers 's bug ?? can I fix it ??

It seems to be random, I have not had time to look into the issue in depth and try to reproduce…. So if you want to take a stab at a fix, feel free! FYI, it was happening in the last week when mempool was pretty empty, so doesn’t seem to be related to being overloaded with a busy/large mempool.

Yo dude! Was hoping you would find your way here.

J, Silverback goes, you’re apart of CP? They are the meanest crypto group I’ve ever experienced.

😂 he was in the other XCP room.

I was like dude, are you sure you have the right room? 😆

@Gorilla_Fi Sorry to hear that your first experience with CP was negative... but your in the right place now... feel free to ask questions and chat about Counterparty all you want... most here are very welcoming and friendly and really love Counterparty 🙂

Apparently there is a btc token on the CP

If it's liquidity you want to e me the keys to the BTC token. We can put 25 Million on that

Is this difficult?

I would like to help, but I do not understand the question

Who did this?

these are asset descritions. typically this is the place to link a .json file or have an imgur/youtube ID string. in this screenshot there is a list of Free Assets whose desc is simply "btc"

this field can say anything. it is not restricted by previous registrations

Bitcoin can be put in the BTC token slot

But sense someone owns it the whole platform is SOL

If this wasn't the case the swapbot and the BTC would have easily fixed the whole thing

im not sure i follow which platform is SOL, bitcoin or counterparty. nor do i see the logic behind the statement nor the merit of such a declaration in these circumstances. It seems you may be confused

is there something you need assistance with? It is true that BTC cannot be escrowed in the CounterParty system currently

the context of the comment was that even if there were contracts or programmability on CounterParty, it would not be able to move BTC but would be limited to protocol made tokens

It's true but it can easily be fixed. Thanks for your time.

3 letter asset names can not be registered on Counterparty... 4 letters is he shortest asset allowed to be registered with the except of the hardcoded "BTC" and "XCP" tokens

CP can obviously move BTC around because we know the DEX moves BTC around.

The DEX moves BTC around with permission manually granted every time, so fully automatic movement seems unlikely under current conditions.
That is to say BTC cannot be the output however we see with dispensers that Bitcoin can be the input to a function, perhaps

It would be cool to have a reverse dispenser. Load it up with BTC, and dispense that when someone deposits an asset token. Having that, paired with the regular dispenser, you could program something like a liquidity pool.

That would require a custodial service... No way to escrow BTC to automatically "release"... so would require a custodial service which would detect a token deposit and then have to generate and sign a BTC send transactions.... this is best done with something like swapbots... not on the protocol level.

Then you are trusting the central server to not steal the Bitcoin.

I’m all for centralized services for CP. Wish some developers would build some.

Cool, you want cheap fast sends, send it here. If you want security, withdraw it.

Easier signup. Better UI. Cheaper, faster. Everything is better except security.

again... BTC can not be escrowed by the protocol.. the BTC would have to live in an address... which CP node is supposed to have access to that private key to generate and sign BTC transactions when a token payment is detected to a dispenser? all of them? What would prevent someone from just spinning up a CP node and then dumping the private key used to sign the BTC transaction and take all your BTC? You see the issue here.... Counterparty does everything TRUSTLESSLY.... there is a reason why the founders did not enable holding of BTC in the protocol, because you can not do it trustlessly....

Already been built... swapbots, coindaddy vending machine, tokenmarkets.com... ideas are great, but until there is demand for these features (and customer willing to pay for the services), they will remain a "wish" and not a reality

@Superart again I would encourage you to reach out to Tokenly and see what it would take to start the swapbot service back up if this is something you are very interested in.... and trust the Centralized 3rd party of Tokenly with your BTC.

token to token vends are entirely possible in the future with dispenser... but escrowing BTC is not going to happen on a protocol level.

Agree. Have to build the service and create the market that will support it.

This is probably a stupid question. Would nLockTime be able to help fix this somehow?

nLockTime would be useful to lock BTC up until some set date, but would not solve the problem of Counterparty needing to generate and sign a BTC transaction in order to send the BTC back when it detects a token payment to a dispenser

Exactly. If I only I had coders who would do this. I could approve funding.

😆

Boom

I will have a massive information push on CP in the coming weeks.

Hate to say it but I miss @heunland 😆

Running to check my PO box now.... yay! pizza floppy day! 🙂

yesssss

https://twitter.com/wasthatawolf/status/1403404830740303877?s=20

How!?

Hate to be "that guy" but does this mean the XCP superstars can steal muh Pepes?

(despite the XCP community being shockingly honest & scam-free)

No... XCP is secure... what happened is that there was an issue in counterwallet way back in the day... and TLDR, bots got access to joes address and drained it of BTC (the counterwallet issue was quickly identified and fixed... but not before they took some of Joes BTC).... the bots just monitor for any BTC to be deposited and then move it (only happens on compromised wallets)... Joe was jsut very McGyver about his transactions this morning and managed to deposit some BTC and spend it in an issuance transaction before the bots could snag the BTC.... No worries on CP being hacked or insecure... this is just a wallet which was compromised years ago with some assets sitting in it.

This is wayyyy over my pay grade

So the THING is the first locked 1 of 1?

Yep this, a day or two after counterwallet was released there was an entropy issue discovered in a library that a handful of bitcoin wallets used (it was one of the earliest HD wallets)

It was discovered and fixed but the assets I issued ended up becoming stuck in that address

The bots that stole the btc were and still are unaware of the counterparty assets

What does it take for bots like this to operate? It hard to believe they’d still be up after all of these years.

Brilliant. They were only looking for BTC, not the valuable FIRST NFT EVER.

Could the tx have been a "sweep all" function or just got the 1 super cool asset?

^This

They just maintain a list of private keys that are known

Just a list of addresses that have been compromised and a check for a BTC balance... pretty easy to write a script that can scan for thousands of addresses and balance every minute (or faster) and once it detects some BTC, generate a TX and move to the hackers wallet

Yeah in hindsight I should have done this but I have to do some yard work now or my wife will kill me

How do you beat a bot? That sound impossibru

Don’t beat the boy mike

Haha

My advantage over the bot is I know about the incoming tx

So I can create the outgoing tx ahead of time and piggyback them, hoping the node I push through is better connected than the bots

But ultimately if the bots succeeded they would have only taken the BTC and left THING so you could attempt it over and over?

Yep

When you say it that way it’s not as cool

Hahaha

You could have lost $3 tho

They left it since 2014 lol

Probably not aware or don’t care about CP Assets

Wait... But why the double spend?

Cuz joe was battling the bots... he created a transaction to spend the BTC in a Issuance transaction and paid a higher fee to get it mined than the bots who showed up a few seconds later and tried to snag the BTC... the double-spend is just an alert letting him know that the bots were battling him for the BTC... tx with the highest BTC miners fee paid wins

Tytyty can sleep tonight

Plus a cool mission impossible, A Team, ninja style story about how it was recovered from the clutches of the evil bots, an against all odds triumph.

Lol, this is pretty much how I imagine you mate.

Haha

so this THING also has a history
I hope it's well documented

(make an NFT about it)

Wicked excited about getting my FloppyBlock today! Physical NFTs are sooooo cool 😍😍😍

That disk is a beauty

🙏 glad you like. Really fun project with @hodlencoinfield

As far as I can tell it’s the 2nd asset I ever issued

Why isn’t the 1st asset you issued the 1st NFT?

It’s called VIEWS not as NFTish as THING

plus THING probly isn’t the first, it’s just older than the “first” that just sold for $1.4mil

So sell THING first for a million and then “discover” the even older VIEWS and sell that for 2 million. Brilliant Joe!

Haha wow

Hold on, you’re telling me someone paid $1.4mil for the NFT minted on Namecoin and persevered on ETH?

This 👆? You have to be joking

This is like a mean nightmare. Wtf is wrong people

Yep narrative is everything

Seriously

Skills

It is wrong to claim that Namecoin ever had tokens, let alone NFTs. It only had the native NMC coins. Are we so far into fantasyland that we're calling anything stored on a blockchain a NFT now? That would make Satoshi's genesis block the first NFT.

Apparently there is a transferable key value store on namecoin in addition to the .bit domains

I agree though, they are not tokens

Funny thing about that is they (Sotheby’s) noted it was burnt after it expired and wasn’t renewed.

I still love Namecoin, one of the best blockchain projects ever.

I stored a bunch of data on chain in 2014, somebody get me in touch with Sotheby's.

I think @krostue was putting poems on Namecoin chain back then too.

I was doing stupid shit on there. I would write stories, and put the metadata on chain in a format I was calling proof of authorship (PoA) that had hashes, author contact info, editor, published url, etc.

I look back now and realize it was all a complete waste of time.

Loooooooool

That’s why they had to make an eth nft

Because they didn’t renew

Wow

m/eow

I'm still around just been too busy to read the chat more often.

xcp-gateway.io disappeared

waves.exchange doesn't supporting deposit and withdraw of wxcp (xcp) anymore?

Pepecash dump

0.002$

This twitter account no longer exists

@real_chain
What happened?

Hrm…. Exit scam? Disappointing…. This is why we do stuff trustless on counterparty and use our own DEX… gateways to other platforms require trusting the gateway operator, which can lead to exit scams. Hopefully nobody had much xcp locked up in the gateway….. I’ll scrub the xcp-gateway site from the Counterparty projects page when I get back from Vegas tomorrow….. truly disappointing 🙁

Sad to hear that the wax gateway scammed out, if that's the case.

Does coval still work?

I wondered this as well. COVAL was very good project

Also this kind of takes us back to our convo earlier about trusted vs. trustless services.

Having too much fun with the FDCARD auction money 😆

Coval is now emblem.finance and has created vaults that can wrap xcp and assets on a variety of different chains

It’s an erc token now

Having fun working and watching my BTC stash grow

I thought emblem has crossed into matic

They’re on multiple chains

It was a Waves not a Wax gateway apparently ceased.

I think it was a front. Did anyone ever see a wrapped XCP?

Yes I traded it on Waves. Saw deposits and figured it was legit. Even still, could not get WXCP: USDT/USDC markets going there.

Yea, you're right. I always get those two mixed up.

Xcp kind of night

Seller Lot Submissions for next weekend's auction of all Counterparty Collectibles (weighted towards Rare Pepes) is now open @WTHAuctionHouse

https://twitter.com/RoaringAuctions/status/1403991200378474496

XCPCARD

I dig what you're doing with the physical cards... will talk to you about getting some of my 22 owned Rare Pepes minted as physicals.

I've posted some updates in @WTHAuctionHouse on how this weekend's upcoming mega auction will run... will most likely be 2 x 2 hour sessions starting 23:00 UTC on 18th and 19th.

If this isn't done a certain way it's invalid.

Wow, 22 cards. Thanks, I do have rarepepenews in there.

Lol yea if the key is wrong

You break these open in order to transfer the token?

IIUC and that's what you're doing, the real issue has always been trusting both the original party that had the private key not to have recorded it, as well as the company that prints/conceals it on the physical item.

(and by extension the method used to communicate that key to the printer)

so many men in the middle to defend against :o

Yea, completely understand. Some people won’t trust it and that’s okay.

It’s not for everyone.

Everyone likes you, I'm not trying to imply that you're not 100% fine dude. Just suggesting a bit of transparency around how they were made would probably increase the value of them. I say that because you were probably careful and didn't send a list of private keys by email to some shady Chinese printing company.

People were concerned when someone in Bitorns was going to do a sort of similar thing, but they were careful about how theywere doing it, and after they explained everyone wanted to buy them (but they were never printed)

How did they do it?

This is a hard problem I've been trying to figure out how to solve for years.

Only real solution I've seen is to send stuff to Opendime wallet.

Will have a FAQ. I’m only person who touches keys.

perhaps pressmen are harder to find than programmers these days?

: -/

My customer target isn’t xcp peeps. I didn’t make this to sell to xcp people.

part of the art of "crypto" is that not all things are seen or labeled. While an artist has security features that are public someone who knows the trade will also take unannounced measures for future proof or authenticity

Let us know when it will be available xcer on telegram first :p

Ofcourse I will with big discounts for xcp peeps

Any chance/option that we can obtain one of each card (ie a bundle) WITHOUT the display case? Those display cases, although that looks great, are a bit bulky for international dispatching 😊

Please consider the above when you do the cards listings (for purchase) to your store/site 🙏

Thanks, so the cards come in packs, when you buy a pack, you open it online and the cards are randomly selected from the card pool.

Some cards are bonus cards and there is literally only one.

However, the cards are tradable online so you have the option to withdraw your cards or trade them.

I think all cards will have free shipping.

can those with more Namecoin expertise than me take a look at this https://twitter.com/wasthatawolf/status/1404529550768357377

You’re going to ruin sillytunas day

Look now @JustinTrimble on Twitter likes Rare Pepes list yours up for sale they’re all sell out just like the cryptopunks! https://twitter.com/dionysus64/status/1404541452709883907 #LiamPepe https://xcpdex.com/market/LIAMPEPE_PEPECASH 🐸

well well well. it looks like this supposed FIRSTEVER did not even follow the namespace suggested format. you see every entry in the namecoin blockchain that represents a .bit domains is a string that starts with d/
at the time there was talk of expanding the namespaces into other functions. for example id/ and u/ were used for a while to denote identities. later, monegraph denoted their entries with that prefix, but this "original" fails to utilize the proper namespace categorization. Therefore this specific non-readable name is incomplete so to speak. ALSO looking at his twitter and the original tweet as attestation is simply a link and pretty weak claim, imho

the highlighted portion is the name he chose in the system. perhaps the name itself is the SHA?
imho this may be an example of a token representing a work of artwork. but cryptoart is about the art representing the token. so, ah, a digital deed of ownership is not exactly cryptoart or nft. more like a digital deed of virtual property. tokenization of ownership and contracts like marriage were popular since bitnation, so im not sure there is a huge amt of novelty here

Agreed re: token representing art vs art representing token

If I do the imgur thing in the description field, but it is for an mp4 file, will it still show up? Or does it need to be a png/jpg?