This is the way🤷🏻‍♂️😜

Some pretty funny artwork already been made over the past few days… an artist took Joe’s “you just want to be king” nonsense to the next level n created this…

RPT sends his regards and says he will return with a launch of WTH 2.0 when the forks are all nicely polished and back in the silverware drawer, and it’s safe to do 60 asset MPMA’s with WTH memos for under 0.0001 again.

His telegram got nuked, correct? Did he ever get a reason?

https://fxtwitter.com/rarepepenews/status/1851354246475891191?s=12

👀

(wrote message this morning and again it was auto-deleted for "spam")

how can it be spam if that was 1 single message?? can any mods bring it back? it was prior to this message

Copying the text before sending would be a good idea, so you can paste it again without wasting time. I am doing same with large text always .

yet again same warning:

do not install it !!!
nobody audited and tested it.

also these stupid updates makes ZERO sense if you still "rate limit" people.

your rate limiting is 🩸🩸🩸

my friend wanted to buy yesterday and all he got was "rate limited".
people cant buy two assets in a row, or three. all they can is one click, thats how "scalable" that wallet is. it's impossible to use it.

i ask JDOG LAST TIME.

RECORD THE USAGE OF YOUR WALLET FOR 5 MINUTES.

until you take users words seriously my recommendation is not to use this wallet.

IT IS NOT WORKING. IT NEVER DID.

this is EXACT reason of why network has no volume/action

R.I.P.

want to bet from 1 BTC its false what you said??? please if you dont use it- dont comment.

NOTHING is working. and i know better because i use network.

What are your thoughts about Horizon Wallet by the way ?

opened it. looked like 1990. closed it.

very very simple and short user experience.

only the thing that "mempool" is the last tab makes me think "these guys are newbies"

mempool is most important. the time frame you can see future is temporary, the past- is always there.

i will repeat one more time. there is no chance to develop something good if you dont use it yourself

and they dont

And they wanted to shut down other choices with offering only raw Horizon - which property of unspendablelabs company as I see .

i can see on btc chain its all transparent

i said. if only horizon would be left - CP would die in a week. thats max.

they dont even have key import function

its like house without the doors

Only at start of wallet.

thats master key

nobody use it lol

yet again they dont know that because they dont use btc or CP network

CP has to have fund for pen-testers. as example if someone would pay me i could go and crash new FW release and tell you all what bugs still exist in it

would save years for everyone.

but thats jdogs ego...

dont even talk about horizon as it do not exist to me

My advice that i hope will reach you well:
put all FW functionalities on the paper, make a list.
then go one by one on that list and check functionality of every function you wallet brings.
RATE your user experience of every function you have tried.
fix bugs.
try over

repeat as many times as needed.

people who brought reviews on user experience were banned as "haters"

ok ill ask jdog question and be polite and i hope it will reach him

HOW DOES NEW FW WALLET UPDATE SHOULD HELP ME IF I AM STILL RATE LIMITED AFTER 5 CLICKS,SIR?

if mods would allow me to post videos- i can "test" that wallet in 60 seconds.
i just want the "eyeopener" for them.

but probably 10 seconds would be enough too.

basically now you all believe that new users that would come will click mouse slow! and that they will take pauses between the buys! thats what you hope for. and if they dont have VPN on their machine i dont even know how would they "recover" from the situation they are facing.

all of you believe that "all working" fine. so embarrassing

network has 10 tx a day, dead cat but bouncing a bit.
and you still limit users?
too much action?
too much tx to handle?
on the dead network?
EMBARRASSING

last:
FW is the only wallet that people use nowadays, until limits arent taken off- to me CP is dead.
my call that this limiting will bleed it badly and we already see this happening

there is not much "functionality" of dispensers/orders/etc if people CANT go and buy/sell using it, because they are limited as BOTS.

https:// reputation .coindaddy. io/xcp/asset/XCP

letting to vote on native currency "reputation" was a dumb move too. XCP should have no reputation at all and reputation should not be applied to it. IT IS TRUSTLESS
and it didn't helped to CP at all.

XCP lost 1/3 of its price in a week. nobody noticed this i guess and still "everything works fine"

to sell EVEN 0.01 XCP is challenging nowadays.

I don't have that much to wager but I gladly take a much smaller bet

Wrong chat for FreeWallet
I'm not sure if the FW dev is in this chat

EVERYTHING WORKS FINE?

how much can you bet?

put your btc where your mouth is

i am glad to match and wager any amount you can afford

FW is still on the official counterparty page counterparty . io , so YES i will and I CAN talk about it.

Brrr is JDog aka FW dev

I see the action JDog has taken as a net positive for counterparty.

As far as a freewallet without bugs...i think your partially right. A part you're wrong about imo is assigning bad intentions to the freewallet dev

Maybe Stack should develop his own wallet. I'll be the first to test it

another stupid way of thinking. after pointing issues and experience with official wallets am i offered to create my own wallet lol?

it just make you all look stupid.

ALSO, you havent TESTED jdogs wallet yet you little weasel. BECAUSE there is no tx on chain as CAN BE EASY VERIFIED.
so keep your "i'll be the first to test it" and FCK OFF.
as i said none of you are using network and i dont care your wortless inputs in this discussion.

market "see" xcp at half price. just saying

Hey guys I have some transactions stuck ?
I paid good fees ish

https://tokenscan.io/tx/b2e68f7be3dd6088697e6c6be901ac7e4e08b8ff9cbc0d83a82c47376c520anyone know what’s up ?

Probably because as I explained yesterday, you continue to act like a spammer posting to tons of messages quickly editing them then deleting them then posting new messages…. Also quit quitting and leaving the channel in rapid succession….. This is all behavior typically that spammers/scammers do….. I’m replying to this so that if you join again, you will once again have an answer to your question

Also asked to your complaint about rate limiting…. This is nothing to do with censorship. This is simply something that websites do to stop people from abusing those websites and sending millions of requests to those websites at the same time.

It is very easy to write scripts to abuse a website and make millions of request very quickly , many websites put on something which is called the rate limiting which limits the amount of request that can be made to a website… currently token scan.io allows you to make two API requests per second… if you happen to go over this limit then you are rate limited for one minute.

So you see, it is a mechanism to limit api abuse, and the penalty is a one minute timeout.

As far as using the website, the limit is much higher, so if you’re getting rate limits on token scan, then you probably should slow down and maybe review the data that is on the page rather than loading page after page after page very quickly.

And again, even if you abuse the website and go over the right limits the timeout period is exactly 1 minute,🤷🏻‍♂️

FreeWallet is open source as it has been for all time so that anyone can review the changes and audit the code, to ensure the wallet does exactly what it says it does.

Never has a release been put out that miss leads people into thinking they’re doing one thing while it does something entirely different.

The current release of FreeWallet makes it very clear that this version works on counterparty 2.0, no other version, and also has been updated to show you exactly what version of the API you are using on the about screen, providing even further clarity to users who are concerned.

Also, once again, only one version of the Wallet is being publicly linked on the freewallet.io website or here on Telegram, and that is the version that works with counterparty 2.0.

All of your concerns and rantings have been addressed if you take the time to stop and read conversations in between the times when you quit the channels and then come back to rant and rave 🤷🏻‍♂️

I’m sorry that you’re upset , but the lie removal of your messages by anti-spam bots is of your own doing, based on your behavior, and your complaints about a website rate limiting is something that is pretty standard to limit abuse on websites.

Before the rate limiting wasn’t put in place over a year ago, there were snipe bots that were using the X chain API and spamming request requests to the tune of thousands per second, which was causing the website to run slow for normal user request. By simply enabling some rate limits, the site is now able to run on five servers instead of 10🤷🏻‍♂️

If the wallet never worked, then no one would ever use it, and there would be no need for anyone to be upset right now🤷🏻‍♂️

Your arguments are nonsense , the source code and the updates made recently are all open source so anyone can review, and the latest version of FreeWallet only runs on counterparty 2.0.🤷🏻‍♂️

I believe I gave the rate limits earlier, as far as API request from tokenscan.io, you’re allowed to request per second, or 120 api requests per minute, which should be plenty for you to use an interact with the wallet.

Bitcoin blocks typically only come every 10 minutes , and the data in the wallet is automatically updated every five minutes, so that leaves you with lots of room to interact with the wallet and use it.

Also, the API request to the counterparty API are not rate limited at all, so nothing in the wallet should ever prevent you from creating a counterparty transaction and broadcasting it.

I hope this answers your question. I have heard some complaints of people hitting the website with a bunch of requests and getting rate limited for a minute, and so I raised the rate limit on both the tokenscan.io API and the website about six months ago, and have heard fewer complain complaints.

And once again, even if you trigger the rate limiting, the penalty is being rate limited for exactly 1 minute or 60 seconds, and you can get around the rate limiting by changing your IP address using a VPN.

I tend to agree. If you have issues with FreeWallet, please bring them up in the FreeWallet channel at https://t.me/freewallet_io

Correct. I chose to leave this channel 9+ months ago from my main J-Dog account, as I didn’t want my objections to some of the proposed changes to be framed as a J-Dog versus Adam type of thing, in an attempt to voice my opinion, but also let Adam and his team do what they felt was best and to see how things went.

I have only started participating here in the last few weeks because I was updating FreeWallet to work with counterparty 2.0, and as you are all aware, the latest counterparty-core releases have had a number of issues, downtime, etc.

I have not joined back here from my main J-Dog account , because my intention is not to remain in the counterparty space, and participate in conversations on a daily basis, as I have for the past 10+ years.

My primary focus is on building the Xchain platform , which is based off of BTNS (BTNS.wtf)

I hope that answers your questions 👍🏻

Now I’m off to get some morning coffee and head to the beach for morning meditation😊

I hope everyone had a happy Halloween, has a great day today, and remember to get outside in the real world away from the keyboard and touch some grass 😊

It looks like your transaction is not visible on any explorer… it could be perhaps that you broadcast a transaction which spent a UTXO which was in the missing transaction (ie, a double-spend attempt). Typically the network would reject this second transaction, however, it depends on the version of Bitcoin and the fee used in both transactions.

TLDR, this doesn’t appear to be a counterparty specific issue, and without being able to reference the transaction via the hash, can’t really tell you much, unfortunately🤷🏻‍♂️

If you’re aware of any issues in FreeWallet that limit your normal usage, please bring them up in the FreeWallet channel and I’ll dig into it and do my best to get things resolved, as I always have😊👍🏻

"Your arguments are nonsense "

WHAT?

I AM TELLING YOU THAT ALL FREEWALLET BUYERS GETS RATE LIMITED.
TRY NOT FROM YOUR WHITELISTED DEV IP

SIT IN THE BUYERS CHAIR AND TRY

we as users give you experience and i say THAT WALLET DOES NOT WORK and thats a fact

we have TESTED it

and it didnt worked, i even said exact issues!

RATE LIMITS

what a brain let. your rate limiting will kill counterparty. your fucked up head spent hours on writing this shit but you can not take rate limit away. im gone

BLOCKING REAL HUMAN INTERACTIONS ON CP WILL BE THE MAIN CAUSE OF DISASTER, MARK MY WORDS.

how can you know or believe if you havent used the wallet recently? im saying those who used and tried all had same experience: it didnt worked.

so if you will keep saying you think you believe or you hope it will not help until you listen what is said to you.

I believe I’ve gone out of my way to be respectful to your consistent spamming of text messages here and personal attacks, answered all of your questions respectfully, etc.

At this point, I’m going to respectfully request that you stop posting so many messages in this channel screaming your head off… I’ve allowed this behavior for the last three or four days because I don’t want anyone in here to think that voices that are opposing are being censored or removed.

However, at this point, I think it’s clear. I’ve answered all the questions respectfully to the best of my ability, so if I continue to see more spamming of text walls and angry posts by stack, I will respectfully put him on a mute for a time period of one week.

I would also like to remind everyone that generally, we try to abide by the content policy for counterparty chat and forums, and I encourage everyone to read and review these policies.

Unfortunately, these policies have been deleted by Adam from the counterparty repositories, however, as I am a digital pack rat and archive everything, I have a copy of these policies in my personal repos which I will post here.

Please read and review the counterparty content policy for chat rooms and forums and abide by these rules and guidelines which have been in place for many years.

https://github.com/jdogresorg/counterparty-classic-documentation/blob/master/Counterparty_Content_Policy.md

None

why is Adam deleting everything?

I can’t speak for Adam or of the actions he takes or doesn’t take, nor what content policy and guidelines are in place for his new chat room. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Not sure why you think I've never used it. Been using freewallet for years. Plenty of transactions and have a few tokens of my own. Never been rate limited.

https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/WALLETWARS

Might want to mint this token... seems historic and funny 🤷️️️️️️😂️️️️️️

Who made it?

What's better? Launching NFTs on CP Classic or 2.0?

No idea, but I minted like 5 🤷️️️️️️

Prolly best for new users to stick on 2.0 for now, as it is the only version with wallets to interact with the ledger. Classic is really more for the more advanced users who understand the risks associated with using a forked ledger without replay protection enabled.

Ok thanks!

Hmm ya I have $ in there and it seems odd I’ll watch it ? Donno? Goofy stuff is all part of the fun this will be some Thing we laugh are asses off on a beach one day lol

What is rate limited ? You speak of ?

Rate Limiting = Limiting the number of requests you can make to a server

Oh fuck what’s the message you get. I wonder if that’s what happed to me when I tried to issue 5 assets the day before Halloween
I was givener and I had it all set I though
Then 3 of them went on fairminter before json cleared and now no images
I have to wait till there minted out too in order to add images ? It’s a bugger

Why can’t you change it so you can add An image after the fairmint is started ?? That would be glorious there’s a bunch of people I’m sure would do that! I’d think anyway

Probably best to ask the counterparty 2.0 guys in their own channel… since Adam and most of his followers, have rage quit this channel and decided to only engage with people in their clan, and mute and band anyone who speaks out of line over there 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣😜

Ah I see odd lol
I’d rather just leave it lol 😂
I have not had much success over there
Not fancy enough lol just a hillbilly from the sticks

i wrote my answer to jdog and again my message got deleted as a "spam" even knowing it was 24 hours since my last message. that was a single message written in paragraph. i have copied it so ill brake it and post it.

"I don’t want anyone in here to think that voices that are opposing are being censored or removed"
I HEAR YOU. that is great.
now what i want:
1. i dont want someone to think i am scammer like you painted me.
2. i dont want someone to think i am thief like you painted me.
3. i dont want people to think the wallet works when its not
4. i don't want people to think that this dev care them.

who of you said "i better do this right than do this for the money" ?
well.. doing right would be - listening to your users.
nobody cares if you can click without limits on your whitelisted dev IP. try to sit in to random chair and start over.
none of buyers who work with a good phase can use your wallet without getting in to limits.
if you limit of how much or how frequent people can buy - it will decline the buying side the minimum.
basically all of you have to believe that every existing and new-coming users on counterparty will not click faster than 1 second between clicks on the wallet or will not browse tokenscan fast too.
jdogs tools are designed for slow people.
good luck to you all

also why dont you let me post pictures or videos and keep me censored from doing that? has any of my pictures or videos in the past been inappropriate? why did you stop people posting reviews on the CHAT of your wallet functions and updates TOO?

if i was allowed to post videos or pictures i would show how easy is to crash your wallet just simply browsing on it or working with it.

another great example of simple user:
people like to open several assets on separate tabs for review or comparison or for another reasons they might have.

what would happen if i would press CTRL and click open ten last dispensers from tokenscan on separate tabs for review ?

would the answer be that humans can not do that and FOR SURE it has to be BOT 100% and yeah we should rate limit IT?
would that be your answer?

1 second "should be plenty for you"
its not about me or you, im not battling you. i am saying it is not enough. FOR USERS.
saying it is 2024. and saying you have to wake up and understand how different is your "i believe" from reality is.

1 second on the internet = 7 months in real life

btw i challenge jdog that it would take me less than 5 seconds and 2 clicks to make wallet to run in to errors that shouldnt be.

tokenscan is correlated with free wallet. if someone would browse tokenscan too fast and get limited and close the website it would not let them access their funds after that.
try to get limited on to WEBSITE and it will cause you the nightmare to use your keys on FW.
so the question to dear developer.
how does browsing on website is related to my ability to access my capital?

those were normal question and i expect normal answers, please.

Now that my habits are challenged, I have to say that pepe wtf and rpw are really great and sufficient in many cases

pepe wtf is best pepe website ever. or to say most pepeish

of how much did i used it never showed me any errors or blocked me to achieve the information i was looking for. my user experience was great.

Didn't read all that but if you are claiming 2 requests per second are not enough, then you are not the average user, and are wanting to use scripts to pull large amounts of data for other purposes, such as use someone else's infrastructure to help you create your own.

nope.

i can make wallet to show errors making:

one right click

one left click

with the mouse.
thats all it needs to show me "errors"

i can make 1 minute pause between that

or one day.
what ever

i am not claiming api requests.
all my issues are addressed to normal users who would use wallet manually at the normal phase

i am sitting in their chair and testing of how great is wide functionality

yet again, one right click one left click.
thats my challenge to jdog

ill open wallet and make one right click and one left click and he can pick the time frame between those clicks.

I've only been rate limited once when I was using more than normal, xchain not wallet

what is more than normal lol

Spamming basically lol

definition of the normal usage please

there is no such word on bitcoin

it doesnt exist

spam me with your sats all your lifetime

ok?

who decided my tx are spam?

It is impossible to make more than 2 tx from one wallet in a second, so bitcoin doesn't have that problem lol

you? jdog? or let the bitcoin do the fair thing, ha?

bitcoin is the fair network. i pay network fees

period.

i am saying, it takes me one right click and one left click

lets start from that error to make counterparty great again.

The reason I think rate limiting was applied, was because others that claimed they had infrastructure, was relying on jdogs infrastructure, at a cost to jdog, why should he pay for others to create their infrastructure

look man please dont tell me whats possible and whats not. i can send tx to network as soon as the change returns to my wallet. if i have several outputs ready you would be surprices OF how many tx i could broadcast a second

and thats again FAIR as i would pay fees to do that

and btc whitepaper says its fair

so?

You can not manually do 2 separate sends in 1 second

It takes time to Input addresses etc lol

Click send

ok nevermind

there is a reason of why i always use electrum and helped so many people to recover/find/use their capital with it. and those who read knows its true.

now when electrum is taken away as it can no longer trigger dispenser and i am used to get on to your centralised wallets. i have fucking issues lol

so you let me use electrum again who have at least coin control RBF and other great functions or should i say all.

or you fix your shit that you are forcing me to use.

That's cool, regarding people calling you a scammer, that was one guy that bought one xcp, I get your side of the argument, dust/fees, you are not wrong, he wasn't wrong to expect his 1 xcp, I'd say calling a scammer was too much over 1 xcp, sometimes recityfying comes at a cost to us, I have at a cost to myself been in similar situation, where making others whole have cost myself, you did make whole, and that's what I would have done also

"please use counterparty wallet to buy"

i am trying

have fucking issues as i find none functioning

to whom should i address?

i never had a downtime ever with electrum. never ever

when something wanst working for YOU it was working for me.

now when electrum is cut off

i am experiencing what normal users were experiencing all the time

I think is 2.0 that have removed this, I think 9.6 you can still do this?

yeah but i dont want this fork at all

it doesnt solve anything.

Using 9.6 (like ninja did for so long) is that really a fork, without replay protection?

2.0 chat as they removed this

Fully agree - It just adds another way for newbies to get scammed

2.0 chat will offer to use me horizon that doesnt have major functions

you made us to be "forced" to pick one when none are right

before we had freedom

RBF on Horizon would be nice

man they will never come to this

because they never tried to broadcast lol

they have to try bitcoin

The onus is on the update/fork, so how can jdog help you, I think having 9.6 capabilities helps you, if not then you will forever have this issue?

to understand what people might want

how would it help me to stay on 9.6 if majority would be on 2.0 ? lol

it doesnt solve anything

yet again , market speaks itself of how it helped for counterparty or its native currency

If I sell an asset on 9.6 that is reflected on 2.0?

i dont know but i know that i have 200xcp on 9.6 that i could sell to anyone who want lol, and there are some like 1k or more on the other chain too

so basically im printing money.

I think dupes only happens if replay protection is added?

my balances on both chains arent the same lol

Oah, lol

"everything works fine"

on classic it shows i have 200xcp

on v2.0

1k

do i have 1.2 , 0.2k or 1.k lol?

That's strange, deffo onus on 2.0

This is why I have not/will not make any tx until I know what's going on lol

just checked now

fuck this censoring

d m i n g y o u m y ad d y to ve ri fy

Since nobody uses 9.6 anymore (all key providers have upgraded, including freewallet / tokenscan), who cares?

how do you know nobody use it lol?

Rate limiting makes it tough to scroll back into the deep history of transactions. 1 click per second takes hundreds of clicks to scroll back so you have to go slow. I stopped browsing it. No big deal on my end if it needs to be there

Name a newb who would find the classic version first. This argument is debunked

I saw a list of major counterparty infrastructure providers - all of the have upgraded

Could You pls share the addy so I can see it also. Very interesting for me

will D M

Some people may want to use 9.6, for vanilla addresses and to use some functionality that has been lost, if you do move from 9.6 to 2.0, there shouldn't be any issues like duplicates should there?

check it

That's a fair point

yesterday i sent 100 out of it.
and now instead of 1k and 200
i have 900 and 100 LOL
will i ran out of xcp after another 100?
or do i still have 900?
or maybe 900+100= 1k lol?

Think this is how I got rate limited, but I know why rate limited was applied so I get it

Yh different balances, that's nuts

weird

2.0 have alot to answer for, what is this, amature hour

If they want to fork, fork properly

i have to use words of Andreas Antonopoulos .
he says if someone forces you to use their centralized ON-RAMPS and OFF-RAMPS to trade : tell them to fuck off and that we stay digital.

basically thats why its though for me to migrate on to Horizon

i see this as forced "on-ramp" to use network

what do we have to say?

FUCK OFF. WE WILL STAY DIGITAL

Fuck your kyc

oh i wasnt addressing this to you lol

hahah

dont say they ask for kyc

:DDDDDDDD

omg...

hahahah

what a great day to be living :D

i asked doge style to remind you guys.
we are all satoshi.
we dont ask permission.
period.

rate limit us. we will go ten steps to the side and use those services thats not limiting us.

we do not ask permission to trade fast. you either agree that the network is fair, or not.

simple as that and this will do for today. bye for now

I have to touch grass also, stay dank

Let's hope 2.0 guys sort out their shit

Ok bro…. Muting u for a week after nicely answering all your questions n asking u to stop spamming n swearing.

Cool, then feel free to go write and fund your own block explorer with unlimited requests n users, as I have done for 10 years, n see how that works for you not rate-limiting n having any abuse filters. See how u handle millions of API requests like tokenscan does🤷🏻‍♂️

Just a few. https://i.gyazo.com/b5be3d9a52d0c5f4c8c37d21d85644a7.png

Now back to sleep for me for a bit longer🤷🏻‍♂️

Maybe stop acting like a scammer/spammer n the bots would stop treating you like one…. This has been explained to you many times, but you wrongly keep accusing ppl of censoring u rather than stopping sketchy behavior like joining n leaving a bunch…. Joined n left 27 times in the span of a couple hours

telegram tsecks
In and out
but no white mana

Guys this is my call to the community

https://x.com/shaban_shaame/status/1852675941916438916

Please comment

🧡

I appreciate your efforts to try to bring the community together and establish some sort of a foundation for making decisions. However, I do not believe that it will resolve this ledger fork issue, nor would the foundation viewpoints be respected by the core developers.

Consensus is hard. Even when the community voted by multiple voting mechanisms (XCP vote, project vote, chat room polls) in favor of a XCP fee on numeric assets in January, the results of the vote were ignored by the current core developers.

At this point, I feel the only way to bring the community back together and get everyone using a unified ledger again, is for the ‘origin’ dispenser functionality to be restored, which would remove the need for users to seek out alternative ways to use counterparty that include this functionality.

The other solution is for counterparty 2.0 to simply enable replay protection by changing the transaction prefix (1 line of code change), to ensure that the “Counterparty 2.0” and “Counterparty Classic” ledgers are entirely separated, and transactions that happen on counterparty classic do not affect counterparty 2.0, and vice versa.

Short of either of these solutions being implemented within the next couple weeks, I see no way this ledger fork issue will be resolved.

Once again , thank you Shaban for trying to bring the community together😊👍🏻

I've been wondering about this too.
So after replay protection added = 2.0 XCP and classic XCP 🤯🤔😨

Just to clarify this would mean the prefix should be changed every time there’s a protocol upgrade ?

Nope. Only in extreme cases where the new version of software (the fork) results in a ledger fork, and only when there is community outrage over contentious changes.

This is why it is so important to not push contentious changes without community consensus, and why Counterparty has operated on a single ledger for 10+ years until now.

The whole belief of what is the “true” ledger version is just a social construct/shared belief which everyone agrees to via consensus. Every update to the software is technically a fork, and every protocol change is technically a ledger fork.

This is why it is important that everyone agree on changes before changes are made, so contentious ledger forks are avoided at all costs, whenever possible.

TLDR… changing prefix n adding replay protection are a worst case scenario, and only happen when all other methods to solve the differences n reach consensus have failed.

Hello is Joe looney kickin around ?
Question
If you minted a card in rare pepe wallet
How come I can’t change description in FreeWallet
And I even checked in horizon

The ability to change it seems to be gone in horizon ?
Other assets no problem but not that one lol 😂
It’s fitting too

Hello 👋 so what does it mean when I get a limits been reached ?? Message ?
I’m not doing that many transactions
Is there a limit ?? I thought we were decentralized but kickers
What is that ?

No, Joe Looney left this chat room earlier this week, then came back with about 5 to 10 other users in order to engage in conversations to try to make it seem like counterparty classic was the fork, and now it seems that he has once again left this room, removed my administrator powers in the rare Pepe chat room without any conversation, and blocked me on Twitter🤷🏻‍♂️

As far as your question about being unable to change the asset description, it may be that your asset description has been locked, as I know that functionality was just recently added to counterparty 2.0

If you wanna ask him a question, you will probably have to DM him directly or ask in the counterparty 2.0 channel where Adam and the rest of his counterparty 2.0 crew hideout/hangout.

https://x.com/jdogresorg/status/1852797994447380668

I believe that limit reached message that you are receiving is from a third-party provider like blockcypher.com or chain.so and is related to you only being able to broadcast a certain number of signed transactions in a set period of time…. Or related to you having too many transactions pending at one time.

If you wanna create a GitHub issue for this in the FreeWallet repo, I’ll be happy to look into this next week and spend some time updating the way that transactions are broadcast so that they are broadcast directly through a counterparty node by relaying the message to Bitcoind rather than having to rely on a third-party APIs like blockcypher.com or chain.so👍🏻

Also, if you create a separate issue on GitHub about the description locking not being visible on tokenscan.io, I will spend some time next week updating tokenscan.io to show if an asset description is locked or not, to make it more clear to you and others exactly what’s going on with a description. I’ll just put a lock icon, which is either unlocked or locked next to the description field. Exactly like is visible next to the supply field. 😊👍🏻

I asked him if since the fork it means now there are two versions of xcp? xcp 2.0, and xcp classic. this was his answer..

Yeah, the messaging from their camp is pretty confusing…. I’m hearing that people can run whatever they want and it’s no big deal (not sure why all the outrage then). Also getting messaging that there is no different versions🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

Actively providing tooling for an older version of does make the latest version something different. I will not be referring to 10.x and anything other than CounterParty and will do what I can to make sure people do not run tooling for old versions. I know we disagree on this.

I can understand your viewpoint and support you doing whatever you feel is best for you and users who use your tools/products/services. No one should be forcing anyone to use any version, and everyone should be free to make their own choices😊👍🏻

But the damage has been done, balances are different, 2 different ledgers?

Without replay protection

Guess 2.0 are ignoring that lol

Or blame some one else instead

xcp.ninja is finally on Core >v10.4.0! 🎉 https://x.com/pifu7/status/1852820505130062231?s=46&t=oGl41DetqiEPq1-vSGOhIA

No one minded ninja been on 9.6 all this time 🤷‍♂

Also, that happened three days ago…. As usual Adam behind the curve on current events🤷🏻‍♂️

And regardless, even if xcp.ninja was always on 10.4, the ledger fork happened due to a failure in counterparty 2.0 where normal BTC sends were not automatically converted to dispenses… which resulted in dispensers, only being triggered on counterparty classic ledger and not being triggered on counterparty 2.0 ledger as they were supposed to be. This is why there were a number of people here, arguing over returning BTC funds immediately after 10.4 went active🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s pretty clear to me. They’re gonna do whatever they can to continue to march forward and ignore the ledger, fork and continue to point. Fingers everywhere else except for their own camp for the issues. 🤷🏻‍♂️

We’ll give them a bit more time…. Then we’ll activate replay protection on classic and from that point forward. The ledgers were forever be separated.

Easier to blame the messanger

Also, pretty funny that people in the counterparty camp, were happy to embrace “counterparty 2.0” all over the place, but now all of a sudden the messaging is “ There is only counterparty.”

….. I guess even the supporters of the current version of counterparty refer to it as counterparty 2.0 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

https://x.com/stampedninja/status/1852829372773711914?s=46&t=o_EQdmm__U4ID_sXW2Hwpw

Backtracking on their own dumbness

How many releases in the last 3 weeks now in the build up to 2.0?

Releases in the last 3 weeks :
counterparty-core 10.4.3
counterparty-core 10.4.4
counterparty-core 10.4.5
counterparty-core 10.4.6
counterparty-core 10.4.7
counterparty-core 10.4.8
counterparty-core 10.5
counterparty-core 10.6
counterparty-core 10.6.1

This is what not properly testing your software before release looks like. Which is strange, because I thought we all heard that they had built an automated test system to make sure releases were stable... I wonder what they are testing in their automated tests 🤷️️️️️️😂️️️️️️

2.0 looking crazy

So lots of people lose money, create 2 ledgers, current devs position, gaslight, troll, accuse, leave, rebrand, not own their rebrand, mute and delete people, and pretend everything is fine

It has some decent new features, but disabled critical functionality for dispensers, and needs a bunch more testing…. My main objection to it at this point is the ideology of the people associated with it, and how they are happy to discredit members of the community that they disagree with, and argue with emotion and nonsense rather than facts🤷🏻‍♂️

So at that point there will be the exact same number xcp on one ledger as on the other ledger?🤯😨

Should call it OGXCP

Well thanks for noticing, highlighting, trying to address/fix the concerns of users loss of funds and functiinalities early on, shame they didn't take the concerns seriously

Give it a banner

There might be some minor differences in the exact amount of XCP on both ledgers due to slightly different fees paid for sweeps and dividends, etc. But yes, your understanding is correct. That once the replay protection is enabled, the balances on the two ledgers will be entirely separate.

596 club

It will continue to be called xcp and be used in the same way as it always has been. XCP will mainly be sold through dispensers, as it is now.

If at some point in the future, an exchange wants to list a counterparty classic XCP market, they will probably just come up with a unique ticker name for it… probably CXCP for “Classic XCP”.

However, to be clear, I have no intentions of marketing or promoting counterparty classic or focusing on exchange listings …. I plan to just make it easy for someone to run a counterparty classic node if they want, continue to show both ledgers on tokenscan.io, and make “FreeWallet Classic” available for anyone who wants to use “Counterparty Classic”

So we will all have twice the XCP after the replay protection added?
How do I put them all in one place?

Rare classics and 2.0 rares?

Think about what this does to grail cards.....

Anything you had on the counterparty 2.0 ledger before block 866000, you will also have in your counterparty classic ledger.

There is no one way to gather XCP from both versions into one address, as after replay protection is enabled, the ledgers are essentially severed/unlinked.

This does not create more XP on counterparty 2.0 or counterparty classic. It’s the same thing that happened with Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash…. If you held Bitcoin at the time of the fork, you also got bitcoin cash on the new version.

This situation is a little bit different since counterparty 2.0 is the new software version and in reality is the fork, but for all intense purposes, that bitcoin, cash and bitcoin, fork is a good example of how ledger balances are just duplicated to a different ledger

Danks? 😎

I was gonna say danks but

Powers ghost is here

So if I haven't used 2.0, before that block, and if I ever update after, what happens

Since the ledgers are entirely separate after replay protection is added, users can completely choose to ignore counterparty, classic and only transact on counterparty 2.0 for their “grails”….. or they can transact on both platforms…. It is entirely up to each individual user which ledger they want to use, including using both ledgers.

Or choose only OGXCP?😎

Think of it as if the counterparty ledger just became two versions of the exact same ledger… whatever you owned on one ledger you now also own on the second ledger….

Once replay protection is enabled, the ledgers are entirely separated, and what is done on one ledger does not affect the other.

Getting off-line for a bit to spend some time with my son. 💕

One of the two is going to get eaten 🍿

So If I Continue to use 9.6, then one day I use 2.0, I will have everything in 2.0 that I had at the time of that block, even if a year later?

I don’t believe in an all or nothing game… certainly one will be bigger than the other, and in all honesty I think counterparty 2.0 will continue on with a larger user base, as they will have more features and are quickly marching towards the shitcoin casino model, which most of the users seem to want to embrace to pump their bags.

However, I believe that there is still value in the counterparty, classic ledger as it has always been a decentralized community driven project , up until 2.0…. And that as time progresses, we will see more and more value accrued on the counterparty classic ledger as there is clearly collectors who will want to get Nakamoto cards and rare Pepes and will be priced out of getting them on the counterparty 2.0 ledger.

Being able to get rare Pepe cards with the exact same provenance as the counterparty 2.0 tokens, seems like a pretty sure thing…. I highly doubt in the future when people say I own a rare Pepe, people will be asking “which one the classic or the 2.0 version” 🤷🏻‍♂️😜

People will just be happy that they are able to own a piece of history, that can be tasted back to the birth of the projects, with the exact same provenance on both ledgers👍🏻

After replay protection is enabled, that will be true…. But until replay protection is enabled in one of the versions, anything you do on one ledger version is duplicated on the other ledger version.

This is why forks without replay protection are a sketchy thing to use .

But the ledgers are not the same now anyway?

You never sent 😢😢😢

I said gib 😂😂😂😂

My bet is the OGXCP ledger completely takes over the fine art in facts world

Once again, the new version of software is always the fork… I am simply running an older version of the software.

And yes, I have not enabled replay protection because I still have hopes that Adam and his team can humble themselves and admit that they disabled functionality too quickly and add back to the origin dispenser functionality…. But that decision is entirely in their camp…. And based off current behaviors, it doesn’t look good.

They are mostly the same… the only places where there are differences would be in fair mints, which don’t exist on counterparty classic… and in dispensers where dispensers will have been created on counterparty classic that are no longer considered valid in counterparty 2.0…. And slight differences in XCP balances…. Due to the fact that XCP is charged when someone does a sweep or does a dividend, so someone could be doing sweeps and dividends which would be charging slightly different amounts of XP on the different ledgers…

But generally speaking, the ledgers are almost identical, except in the areas where functionality was added or lost

Are all muh dispensers created in OG no longer good🤔

I put one in a horizon wallet dispenser just to be a smart ass..

All the dispensers you created on classic before block 866000, or any dispensers that you created using your source address as the dispenser address after 866000 should work perfectly fine on counterparty 2.0.

The only dispensers that work on counterparty classic, but that are not seen as dispensers on counterparty 2.0 , are dispensers that are opened on a new empty address, from a different address, using counterparty classic….. which I believe there are very few if any, as there is really no way to interact with the counterparty classic ledger as of this moment (it exists, but not highlighting how)

I created most of my dispensers from one address to a new address, or do you mean after 2.0

ok im done

Sure seems like a simple compromise to add back functionality that people are upset about…. But much easier to gaslight me and make me the problem, and ignore upset people.

The longer the drama goes on the less guilty I feel about holding my ground, as I have been abundantly clear for quite a while, how all of this drama could very easily be solved by simply adding back the missing ‘origin’ functionality.

OK, I really gotta go hang out with my son…. Catch up with you guys later 👍🏻

Yh have some chill time mate

ok now im done

OGXCP

After 2.0…. If u did ur dispensers on different addresses before 866000, they should still be good on 2.0

You can view both the classic and 2.0 ledgers on token scan to determine if your dispensers are valid on either version👍🏻

https://x.com/mikeinspace/status/1852909830425432335

A little historic information about the 2014 Counterparty token 'LTBCOIN' - learn your Counterparty history here folks!

https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1852908921666904171

https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/UNITYXCP

good summary of the issues and views at hand I think... I created an exception to the no-HTML in descriptions formatting rule for this token... still available to mint for those who want to.

Not sure if u can see this…

https://x.com/c0rnh0li0/status/1852906945763475898?s=46&t=ier6SvDXHeBYFCSrme9XAA

Basically a thread of fud against jdog

Eh, it is what it is... not wasting any more time engaging in pointless finger pointing... I am fine standing behind my history with Counterparty, and provide a full archive of my history via j-dog.net/archive/ if anyone cares to review.... IMO, they are gonna keep trying to smear my name and focus on me as the source of problems rather than listening to voices of others in the community.... Its easy to pick and choose specific quotes and frame it however they want... as we've seen, the MSM has done this with trump for many years.... Anyway, not gonna engage or waste any time responding to that post... I'm focused on building, not fighting pointless fights

I’ve grown a pretty thick skin over the years being involved with CP n being accused of anything and everything under the sun… it’s best to not take stuff like this personal and just realize that ppl are passionate about CP, and often choose the simplest route to accomplish their goals…. In this case it’s much easier to attack me than it is to question the core devs about their pushing contentious changes 🤷🏻‍♂️

Guy has way too much soy in his diet.

Oh I was hammering transactions lol 😂
But I didn’t think I would be anywhere as much as some lol 😂
It must smell my ip adress eh
Because I was doing it in 5-6 different wallets

What is it your doing??

Insulting on purpose

It’s the facts and Cornholio brought receipts.

Some receipts that support his narrative

Lamest thread i ever read, disguised in some interesting history

Post it in the fork chat, you guys can squirt all over each other about it

The contrast between this thread and the Corn Hole thread is luscious

everything you said in the past was a lie. including of you leaving

who is jdog and why CP should care the dev that left and gave over the reign ?

can someone explain me why ass licking of jdog has became daily thing of counterparty?

and why dev that left keep disturbing ?

well said, Mike.

are you going to ban all of us?

are you going to block all of us?

are you going to force us to follow jdog?

TRY TO FORCE

TRY TO BAN ALL USERS

TRY TO SAY "it is his wallet" to make us think he will rug it one day !

make us think that "whats his" is "HIS"

make us think all BTC that freewallet can access is HIS.

Would love to buy one these....anyone have one for sale?

if you think including wallet/explorer in to OFFICIAL list and later letting the dumbass developer to do ANYTHING he want with it just because IT IS HIS is such a fucked up mindset.
RIP

if there are multiple request and bad user experience especially loss of funds while using his tools, they have to be taken out of official lists ASAP

you have to differ "his" from "official wallet"

good luck.

Hello, i tried to write my first message, but it got auto deleted. Dont know why was that and what exactly triggeres

I have a question about tokenscan website. Maybe there is someone who can do some small changes in frontend?

When i open any dispenser, i get a banner that says "DO NOT send funds to a dispenser from a taproot address (start with bc1p)!".

It took me a while to understand, that bc1q is not the same as bc1p (im bad at this, i know) so i always ignored all dispensers that starts with bc1.

Maybe there would be a possibility to add a class on that banner "display=none" and a simple javascript, to check id="source" or id="origin" if it starts with bc1p, then add css class display=block?

It would be rendered on user end and would remove that info for simple users like me that could be missleading.

Damage is only done by someone using a 9.x version which they should not do. There is no use case to use both versions and anyone doing that will be at risk.

that banner alone lost thousands of potential buyers who always thought that using or buying from native segwit address is not good.

would i be right that JDOG scared away thousands of buyers?

WOULD I BE RIGHT SAYING

that only FUD

is created by jdog?

because this BC1P banner gave:

FEAR

In stacks address, the balance ox xcp in one ledger is less than 100, in another ledger it's nearly 900

UNCERTAINTY

Even if I fully agree with all your complaints what is future? Jdog supports 9.x forever and they 10.x keeps updating with the core team. How does that help anyone?

wasnt that sent private to you?

You mentioned it here

did you DO XX ED

the person

who gave you details in private

i am asking again

No, you are stack obvs

yes i am

still the same question

did you just dox xed

what a fucking disaster EVERY DAY

Sorry if you didn't want that address public, thought u had no issue as u said you can't share links

so why do you think i sent it in private?

I edited so is not public

ok nevermind

Because you can't share links

I apologise

thing is , this "counterparty" chat

became "LETS LICK JDOG ASS"

try to ban EVERY user.

nobody should use NON audited wallet from developer that LEFT and LIED

PERIOD.

he forked the chain!

now lets wait for him to wake up and ban me. so i could rejoin with another account

all it takes me : 2 clicks

and yes my balance do not match. a little issue to start with

Banning would simply show "fuck my issues" its all about "lets lick jdogs ass"

im going to grab popcorn and wait asslickers messages to entertain me with. at least until the big daddy and wizard wakes up. he is such vulnerable at nights.

there is nothing to share , "everything is working fine" - isn't it?

i thought thats what you said lol.

last to say for now. I AM REGULAR USER - thats why i know better than non-users.
avoid what we say and it will lead to dead network. try to ignore what users want and it will 100% lead to disaster. 101%

I never once said everything is working fine, if everything was working fine then this discussion wouldn't have even started

Or 2.0 grow some thicker skin and make things right

First message got autodeleted :DDDDDDDDDDDD as a spam. FIRST MESSAGE of someones opinion lol.

lets wait on what excuse will be brought by the wizard this time.

And yet they banned me last time of me saying "fuck this censoring".
i do not see in none of those messages of why he would have been censored as scammer/spammer

so again i repeat:

FUCK YOUR CENSORING

nobody knows beside JDOG that kept running his laptop at the closet when everyone been told "i am leaving". he lied - network forked.

Where is the constructive dialogue? Where are the decisions? Hate speech and numerous negative messages are still allowed here, yet the "decisions road" remains empty.

Why is that? By the way, Stack, you are currently assisting the 2.0 team with the intention of undermining JDog without truly seeing the whole picture. If this is how you aim to prove you are right, it is not an effective approach.

Once again, regarding the toxic behavior in this chat—I believe there are motivations behind it that will soon become clear to everyone.

Blaming others and engaging in toxic behavior does not help; these are merely tools that can make things worse. Everyone who uses these tools is responsible for the consequences that follow. We’re all adults here, right?

They claim 9.6 is the issue, ninja ran 9.6 all this time, until 3/4 days ago, they claim jdog is the fork, yet there are 2 ledgers and different balances and users have lost funds already, easy to earn brownie points from postofficeparty to point the finger

THEN DO ADULT THINGS YOU BRAINLETS

how many times USERS have to repeat

FIX YOUR SHIT if you are FORCING US TO USE IT

now FUCK OFF

Again , toxic behaviour does not helping , even for You this is not best way to explain your position . Why using it ?

FORCING didnt helped too. FUCK OFF

anyone else?

They claim jdog is centralised, while actively not listening to community votes and leaving this chat, never mind trying to find a resolution

will try to play smart?

Must be cumfy up there on the 2.0 pedastool

I'm very sad to see this. I’m trying to address some issues, but it seems like your only aim is to be toxic toward those of us who prefer a calmer and more constructive approach. I haven't seen toxic behavior help anyone, just to be clear. I'm not an admin here either, but you’re not in charge either. Yet, you've tried to shut me down with your negativity. I hope you recognize this. I'm not your enemy, nor am I someone you need to blame. Please consider this.

LOL :DDDDDDDD
i do not give a shit if jdog is calmer. that doesnt make him RIGHT

do you think you are smarter than me? more polite? more better?

FUCK YOU

Omg...the way you doing this ... It is very "smart" way . I see

all those ass lickers fucked up CP

all of you brainlets trolls was part of this

"all working fine" narrative

Isn't that a 2.0 position kek

you was told to FUCK OFF like third time now. i don't care opinion of trolls that arent using network

or knows shit about it

NEXT

There is no mention of "jdog." There is only one person who wants to blame others without acknowledging any differences. What happened? Perhaps a more constructive approach would be more helpful than toxic behavior and endless random insults and shouting.

And yes , you are very helpful in time for team 2.0 btw . I guess you also understand this

To me he is not a dev

so why should i take your daily bullshit like he is

is this truly "official" chat?

and who is that guy?

and why he has power to censor people lol?

who the fuck is that creature ?

LEAVE COUNTERPARTY ALONE

you fucked it up

I was muted in another chat for 3 words, "banned for this? " count yourself lucky is my advice

so what does it mean? me to blame? you to blame?
teach me to be polite?

fuck them ALL for making this mess

It's your opinion, and that's okay. However, could you please be more constructive? People see your 1,000 messages, but there isn't a story behind them—just a lot of blame.Thanks

the only who suffer are users

opinion?

No it means if your throwing stones in only one direction, then your motives are clear

do you want to buy 200 XCP from the chain with "my opinion" ?

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

fucker

what a clown

Why don't you see that alot of issues is with 2.0, idk man

EXACTLY there shouldnt be story at all. because JDOG as CP dev do not exist.

and "HIS" tools are not official.

are we clear?

or should i go test again?

Anyway have a nice rant here, will come back later and read 5000 messages

Have a nice day

making people believe those are best tools and letting them see so much errors and banners that made FUD was a non acceptable at least.

including this

ERROR FROM NEWBIE AMATEUR JDOG THAT CAUSED FUD AGAINST SEGWIT ADDRESS'es

people got "FEAR" and "UNCERTAINTY"

now teach me to be polite.

after all the warnings he kept doing that shit. so fuck him

IT DIDNT HELPED.

He hates Jdog for something that happened before but doesn't see the whole picture. He is now a perfect soldier for those who had specific aims from the start. I’m just saying that it is a powerful tool in war to manipulate "blind-minded" people and their hatred.

I've been catching up with what is going on recently. Seeing you crap all over yourself and spam the chat while whining about being censored isn't a great look. Looks like banning you was the right move.
There are those of us who would like to see the issues resolved in a constructive way to avoid a fork.

You can learn a great deal by how people conduct themselves. I'm learning.

If you came in here and communicated like you didn't have rabies, that might be more productive.

"for those"

repeat. I DO NOT WORK TO ANYONE.

Yes , I believe

i came here because you invited me

You are free perfect tool now for them