Like 35% cheaper but what I don't know is how much cheaper is taproot

Hey big brains !!
I’m trying my darndest to on board new people !
And I was wondering I could broker a deal !! lol
Counterparty takes down the odd message that FreeWallet is bad lol
And I’ll see if I can hunt up. A Jdog to remove the banner on token scan !
Maybe I could get him to put a nice message in its place ??
It all feels so odd to me and I have no answers to anyone who asks me about them. Because if you step back from a
“don’t understand the drama”
Point of veiw and step into a “just want to buy digital assets from the best place in the bitcoin universe”Type of idea.
It kinda feels
COUNTER PRODUCTIVE
NOT
A PARTY AT ALL
I know that I am not alone here just wanted to say it out loud !
Let’s fucking start partying again eh !!
So what say you !?

both banners are true in the eyes of the site operators, this is a dead end, just use the tools you like and others will use the tools they like

Digital slap fights are weird

Discuss here? My two sats:

Two peas in a pod as far as I can see. Same story, new face but still unilateral rulership

- threatening to force vm on the community (major scope shift from feature rich to featureless)

- Avoidance of any metrics to guide development (no polling, or voting. Just censored github)

- Convoluting private service and public utility (horizon explorer/wallet do not belong to the community)

Obviously the ideal situation is open lines of communication. But it seems some lead developers don't believe in that

Looking forward to getting on board with the marketing plan from the new boss 🚀🌕
Will the community be expected to advertise Unspendable Labs service products for free?

Love how all these new features/bugs bury the older unfinished features/bugs that are obvious when you've been eating counterparty pudding for close to a decade.

Full steam ahead at chasing coat tails!

lol… spent months and months trying to work with me on bug fixes, huh? We barely spoke ever since I handed control of the counterparty properties over to you, and I made it abundantly clear from the beginning that I would not run any version of counterparty where dispensers were changed against community consensus….. once you made it clear that you were forcing changes into counterparty, I simply kept my word that I would continue to run a version of counterparty which did not have changes forced into it

I also went on for many months and reported many many bugs on GitHub ( like the fact that MPA’s broke and the fact that you said MPMA has never had the ability to send memos until I prove that that was not the case)

If you’re going to say, lies, Adam , at least have links to back up your months and months of work with Jeremy bullshit…. I have plenty of GitHub issues that have been logged and are still open demonstrating my efforts to try to work with you to move things forward.

If you wanna keep your misleading messages up on counterparty.io under some misguided belief that you’re protecting users from losing funds (no one has ever lost funds on free wallet due to the fork) you’re more than welcome to…. However, this is another case of many members in the community speaking out and saying enough is enough and can’t we just move past all of this drama., and even I have said once counterparty.io is updated to remove the bullshit fund token scan.io will be updated…. However, you want to hold your guns and continue to say that it’s all me and that I’m the problem..

You’re entitled to your views obviously, but maybe keep the whining about the big bad mean message up on token scan to a minimum since you’re doing the exact same thing despite numerous community members saying enough is enough.

Good luck with your atomic swaps and whatever other features you have planned …. It’s been working out great for you so far.🙄

I’m leaving this channel now so you can have your little echo chamber again…. But felt it was worthwhile to join and once again call out your nonsense.

forwarding the messages here before Adam once again deletes anything he doesn't like..... I've made it abundantly clear that if ppl want the Message from the top of tokenscan (the most popular counterparty explorer) removed, it is easy to do so as soon as counterparty.io removes their FUD about ppl losing funds on tokenscan and Freewallet (the most popular / used Counterparty wallet)..... Numerous people have reached out to me about this, I keep directing them back to Adam.... its clear from his messages that he has his own viewpoints as more important than the community views, and that he will continue to try and push forward with Counterparty updates and growing the community rather than just removing his FUD messages on counterparty.io.

Truly disappointing... its been almost a year, would think that he could grow up and remove the annoying FUD messages about tokenscan.io and freewallet.io from counterparty.io (few visit that site anyway)... and in turn I would remove the fork messaging from tokenscan.io (still get 80k+ unique users per month visiting it)..... I'm content building on XChain platform and focusing my energies elsewhere... and have said i'm open to removing fork messaging from tokenscan once counterparty.io is updated (they put up misleading FUD first).... just sad that almost a year later, still one dev is in control of everything, a year of work has been done and the CP community has shrunk, not grown as promised, and he refuses to even make any efforts to resolve issues and remove "confusing" messages in the interest of the community.

even duncan, who hated my guts as core dev, admits that adam forces changes and is not interested in any viewpoints other than his own 🤷️️️️️️

https://i.gyazo.com/8ef7e193a703b8d63df0f02807ebeada.png

yay atomic swaps.... definitely what the community wanted... LOL... 2+ months and only a single atomic swap has taken place... meanwhile, dispensers, even tho they have been crippled by Adam and teams changes, continue to get more usage than all other features

https://i.gyazo.com/dd532097f7c8d61c674bd0f9726c793a.png

And this is who is in charge of leading Counterparty into the future... someone who's vision is to force what he feels is best for the community on the community, throw out and disregard 10+ years of updates and community driven changes (while he was busy chasing VC funds in his private company), and after a 1.5 years of work, still cant admit that maybe his viewpoints might not be in the best interest of the community... I truly weep for the future of Counterparty, as it continues to flounder and all the promises of "this new feature will onboard tons of users" and bring Counterparty back to the forefront, fall on deaf ears and no community.

What great features are planned next?.... his answer... none, gotta build up the community and tools now.. what community? what tools? atomic swaps? fair mints? have had both for almost a year now, plenty of atomic swap sites and fair mint sites, yet no users..... god forbid he take a step back and think about the fact that MAYBE he came in and forced his viewpoint on people.... This was a community driven project for 10+ years, now it is a centralized joke... only thing it has going for it now is that it has some historic projects and tokens on it.... and even those will be able to migrate away from the platform in the coming future...

Sorry for the rant... but really sucks and hurts my heart to see what I put over 10+ years of my blood, sweat, and tears into... torn apart and laid waste to by someone who is only focused on VC funds and being right... even a year and a half later, still not able to admit that MAYBE he might not have been making the best decisions for the community 🤷️️️️️️

All hail Adam Krellenstein... the dear leader of Counterparty.. FML.... AFK now.

https://www.youtube.com/live/49YEaJXDYes?si=n9AxEwGMtGBDcI36&t=7135

its so funny Gwhiteknightmoney puts a clown there because it 100% happened and that in and of itself is a great reason to put a warning on the wallet or remove it completely

Funny this fat fuck can say whatever. I'm banned again for nothing

JOE MICRODICK LOONEY

I’m banned too lol

I'm banned too lol

LITTLE JOEYS THE TYPE THAT TRIED TO GET YOU IN THE CLOSET OF HIS MOMS TRAILER

DEFINITELY CATHOLIC

Very very CATHOLIC

everyone just needs to move on with their lives

remember when jdog got mad and removed numeric assets from freewallet?

lol… does everyone remember when Joe stood up and defended the actions of J-Dog saying that J-Dog was free to do whatever he wanted to in his wallet and that it was entirely separate from the counterparty platform? Remember when Joe Looney said that stamps was shitting in the sink and that there should be a fee on numerics and organized a pole to try to get consensus on whether or not there should be a fee on numeric and that consensus came back as about 90-95% people saying yes they wanna fee on numerics, yet J-Dog didn’t feel comfortable, pushing that into counterparty because there wasn’t enough consensus for him?

Everyone remember when there was an actual fork two years ago, and J-dog asked Joe Looney if he would step into the position of a developer and help carry some of the burden that I have been carrying alone for many many years and simply vote. Yay or nay on changes based on how he felt? Remember how during the fork Joe Looney absolutely refused to engage with J-Dog, and the only reason counterparty was still able to move forward was because the other core developers at least had level heads and were able to come to a agreement with J-Dog where he called off the fork?

Anyone remember J-Dog trying to handover properties to Joe Looney and others on the counterparty core team and they all refused and said they didn’t want the responsibility or problems that came along with running and hosting counterparty for many years , but they were very happy to continue to let me carry that burden, even though I had made it abundantly clear that it was unfair and that the burden should be shared among all the core developers.

You like to try to make yourself sound like a really smart white night Joe while making fun of anyone who happens to have a different opinion than you , but many of us see right through your bullshit, and see you.

By the way, the large majority of the counterparty community still uses freewallet and tokenscan so it’s pretty clear the community has chosen which wallets and explorers they want to use and is continuing to use those wallets and explorers.

A fun trip down memory Lane for those who care to review

https://imgur.com/gallery/counterparty-forkoff-2024-core-dev-chat-ESAz8ww

By the way, no one is using counterparty classic because I left the default in free wallet (the one which you all claim is unsafe and has lost users funds and yet that is entirely false no one has lost funds using free wallet) pointing at counterparty 2.0.

I’m perfectly happy building xchain platform as I have been for the past many months, I have moved on from counterparty, however, that doesn’t mean that I still don’t have love in my hearts for the community here that I spent over 10 years helping to build and understand this technology…. It is truly sad that the new leader feels his way is the best way, and would rather ride the community into the ground so that his opinion can be the right one rather than listen to community members who clearly are sick of all the drama and would prefer to just have bullshit FUD messages removed, and let everybody focus back on just building.

Feel free to keep the messages on counterparty.io up as long as you want there Adam, I still have the bulk of the community using free wallet and over 80,000 unique users visiting tokenscan.io to get their counterparty data every month, so really you’re only hurting yourself more and your chances of clearing up confusion and gaining additional users and adoption…. Versus the handful of users who go to counterparty.io and see your misleading messages and still continue to use freewallet, and tokenscan…… I would think you would’ve already learned this lesson as the numerous interviews that you have done over the past year all of the interviewers have been using freewallet and tokenscan to display things and interact with counterparty and none that I have seen have used horizon explorer or wallets as their preferred tools of choice.

Once again, I’ll fade into the background and let you have your quiet echo chamber of “rah-rah counterparty has a great future ahead of it” …. But I truly hope that you listen to the community and pull your head out of your ass as I don’t see counterparty having any users or community growth in the past year..

And speaking of shady people, I’m looking at you, Joe Looney…. Someone who I once considered a friend and while I was telling you how I was overloaded and wanted to hand control over to you you were nodding in my face saying yes yes let’s talk on Monday and meanwhile sending messages to Robby counterparty co-founder requesting that I be thrown off the counterparty project and have my repository access removed….. also the same upstanding guy who asked me to write a rare Pepe bot that was used for many years in the community until you decided to have AI write your Pepe bot, and then named it the exact same thing as mine with the exact same profile and then quietly swapped your bot in without letting anyone know while kicking the bot that I had operated for many years out of the rare Pepe chat room…. Such an upstanding guy. Your a true piece of shit who only cares about trying to look good n you have done fuckall for CP the past 5 years.

One wonders why the counterparty community is so divided and cannot seem to find any footing to gain new users or tools , look no further than yourself, who you blindly follow, and the fact that no innovation is going on at all…. You wrote a wallet many many years ago, but I’ve done nothing of note other than move your wallet around to a few different URLs and add some minimal features to it (your welcome for me hosting your RPW wallet for many years because you were too technically inept to do so)

https://www.youtube.com/live/49YEaJXDYes?si=n9AxEwGMtGBDcI36&t=7135

I’m off to have breakfast downtown with my son and once again focus on building something new and exciting rather than hold onto shit that was done in the past a long time ago … hopefully some people here learn to grow and evolve and realize that nothing moves forward when you have your head stuck in the sand🤷🏻‍♂️

I was gonna post this and reply to Joe’s snarky comments, but as usual, I’ve now been muted in the counterparty channel that’s run by Adam…. He doesn’t like anyone coming in and speaking out against the deer leaders great plans.🤷🏻‍♂️

Clown ops on overdrive

It’s funny to me that they think I’m still stuck on counterparty and I’m trying to fight for control of counterparty or some bullshit narrative like that…. I’ve moved on and my focus for the last year has been building on X chain platform…. But they have their head stuck in the sand so much that all they can see is me as an enemy, and they would rather continue to keep me as an enemy rather than focus on listening to the community…… it’s been over a year since Adam forked his channel away and yet still only has 300+ users in there meanwhile, this channel continues to grow in users.

It just really sucks that this is the state of counterparty after 10+ years and the “ smart guys” in charge of leading would rather continue to stick their head in the sands and say nothing is wrong. Everything will be great in the future, add no real usable functionality, build the new tooling that users want to use, and continue to have hope that things will be brighter in the future.

Some of us build because we love building and care about building communities…. Others seem to build because it makes them feel like they have a leadership position and some sway over minions…🤷🏻‍♂️😜

Fork with the best…
Die like the rest

THE ONLY THING THAT EXPLAINS LONNYS BEHAVIOR IS HE IS A SABOTOUR with a beta army of FAKE support BOTS creating effigy assets to create a narrative

GLITCHY JOE LOONEY
NOTHING MYSTERIOUS ABOUT A TUBBY PUG FACED DOG

IMO he feels like rare Pepe is his since he created rare Pepe wallet and he continues to try to ride that fame forever… he’s done fuck all as far as innovation goes since rare Pepe wallet…. Imagine writing something 10+ years ago and thinking that you’re still relevant today🤷🏻‍♂️

Dropped this for Joe
The small issue is 99 percent of the “lives” in here are not at the comfy levels of the 1%
Familiar much
The un needed friction of on boarding is the issue really.
People seem to be able to smell the tension in here and end up preferring a system more centralized like what they live in with is why they buy on
Eth.
Moving on feels like being run over much like our government does to us
Isn’t this suppose to be different ?
Kek

Ucit lol ha

Not sure how I’m not kicked out they probably feel sorry for the dumb Canadian lol 😂

I was able to see the chat and leave emojis but now I have been permanently banned it seems 🤣

Yep, same here not only am I now no longer able to join and been muted but now it has been blocked for me entirely…. It’s silly for them to do that because creating alternate accounts to view and forward messages is very easy…. But I guess they’re quite content in their echo chamber.

Here’s the first DM that I’ve had with Adam in the past year…. I doubt anything will come of it, but at least you all know that I tried.

I also find it highly entertaining that for a long myself and users of this channel were accused of censoring and being the ones to block and kick people…. However, Adam has never been kicked or banned from this channel and to this day is free to join and speak his mind…. Yet God forbid anyone speak out against Adam and his fork channel.🤷🏻‍♂️

anyway, enough of my day has been spent on this pointless drama now… off to do a 35 gallon water swap in a couple of my saltwater tanks and do some house work in deep carpet cleaning…. I hope everyone has a good day.👍🏻

Triggered by emoji’s 🤣🤣🤣

Each ban strengthens a new focus

Pump it up !

😂

https://youtu.be/Ryvkwx8BFss

my god please let this be some bad kayfabe to hold back tokenization capital flowing into xcp until green light confirmed

It’s the dumbest payop so far

Where the hell is that vote ?

View results then hit show more

Payop haha 😂

It’s in Adam’s special chat that many people in here are not allowed to view or vote in since they have been muted or banned…. And yet still the results indicate exactly what I said they would, people are tired of the drama and the misleading information and would prefer to just remove that shit and get back to business as normal

The big turning point for me was when Adam took on VC funds and then failed to mention it to the community at all and then got hyper. Defensive and rage quit this channel when I asked him about it….. nothing wrong with taking on VC funds and getting paid for your work however something is 100% wrong with not being transparent to the community about a possible conflict of interest in a supposedly community driven project….

Don’t know how we ever thought his plan of “ the guy who’s been here for 10 years and who runs everything is now the evil person and the new guy who just showed up and has plans to solve everything is the good guy…. Everyone should stop using the tools that they’ve been using for the past 10 years and just sit on their hands and weight while the new good guy builds things cause he knows best.” Plan would work.🤷🏻‍♂️

I legit I’m done with counterparty other than maintaining the wallet and the Explorer and all of my attention is on building something bigger and better …. But that doesn’t mean that everyone here in the community should have to suffer more of this nonsense in the meantime.🤷🏻‍♂️

lol…. Scammers are getting dumber and dumber every day.

Doodling this during this whole back and forth like yelling into the matrix words are unheard like a ghost in the machine lol or some shit haha

Beat them to the punch

Pretty funny to me that Joe’s talking about how tokens scan sensors certain tokens…. I only sensor assets which are scams or can mislead people into losing funds….. over the year there have been a handful of tokens which will airdrop tokens into a user wallet and then update the token description to point to a fake counter wallet login screen, hoping to trick users to log into those wallets and give up their wallet passphrases….. Joe had no problem with me blocking those items to protect the community.

The Dog asset in question is specifically one that stack created use my image without my permission and then went ahead and said that he was going to scam people into thinking that they were contributing to counterparty classic by purchasing this token …. So yeah since I’m not involved in that token and I didn’t say it was OK to use my image and I’m not OK with people being misled and losing funds. I blocked that token too.

Of the 400,000+ tokens that exist I think I have blocked less than 10 , and always only to protect users from being misled and losing funds🤷🏻‍♂️

pretty funny to me how Joe continues to say oh we didn’t even need to have this conversation. It was a dead end conversation. Meanwhile, there’s a pole that says that over 2/3 of the community wants the message removed from counterparty.io…… once again I guess we have different definitions of what consensus is and what is important to talk about and what is not

Yeah i can't even read the chat now. Lames. Imagine of we could vote

Oh I see crazy makes sense to be censored then

How could it be possible that you can’t vote haha that makes 0 sense loll
Oh well I guess

Didn't even have to join to vote

I was going to rejoin that group but it doesn't seem to have changed since the last time I was there... Just a lot of big heads saying "J-Dog sucks"

Adam is fuked hahahahaha

I have a feeling that Adam's investors expect a ROI and they haven't been getting it. How much longer before he walks away from it all, again...

For the record, I was pretty stoked when Adam & Evan came back. I thought it could only be great to have additional brainpower at the helm of development. But the way that crew proceeded with it has been extremely divisive. J-Dog may not be the best at playing with others but Adam is terrible at it.

Why am I not surprised Stack would do such a thing 🤣

Oh boy lol

https://x.com/codycampbe16881/status/1919233468057174124?s=46

Might be good lol Adam’s the hero !!

I did a 35 gallon water swap today on one of my larger tanks the 175 gallon one…. So I figured I’d share what’s going on at feeding time since everybody seems to come out and show off during that time.

I got to see two of my pom-pom crabs tonight, which is pretty rare

I can't even see the chat anymore. Perma banned. Same for Rarepepes purple chat

Anybody want to buy some numeric subassets?

The drama continues aye, so this is because of the banners?

I didn't vote, my vote didn't matter last time and got me banned from some groups

Yep, I heard Adam complaining and blaming me for lack of adoption due to the banner on token scan so I simply offered to take that banner down and replace it with one that simply says you’re viewing the data for counterparty 2.0 or counterparty classic and remove the red Fork warning….. and in exchange, I expected the counterparty.io website to be updated to remove the misleading message on tokenscan.io and freewallet.io losing user funds….. It only took about a month of people asking why the messaging was still up and continuing to apply pressure to Adam for him finally to get frustrated enough to create a poll to poll the community and what do you know…. The poll indicates a 2/3 majority would like to remove the misleading FUD messages on counterparty.io.

Once I see the counterparty.io website is updated to remove the misleading information then I will update token scan.io within the following 24 hours to remove the red Fork warning message👍🏻

I guess is a fair thing, reciprocal tarrifs

Or reciprocal banners lol

Nice of you to Offer though

I read what you wrote there about EVs /costs/dispensers, and I must admit you were absolutely right. You introduced a new factor that I don’t think many innovators had considered.
'always as a community'😊Good job

pretty sure they put the polls up to see who they need to ban next 😂

But why is Freewallet now a risk?

It’s not, Adam just doesn’t like Jdog

Guess it’s a long story which I’m way too retarded to explain

Free wallet is a risk just like every change in counterparty since Adam took over has had consensus….. It’s all just nonsense that lives in his head that he wants to believe is true.🤷🏻‍♂️😜

If you scroll back you’ll see Jdog’s posts about it

And that shouldn't have him audacity to say Freewallet is risky. That's the only thing I've ever used to navigate XCP.

Good luck to him and whoever is down with him, as for me and many I know, JDog is a Messiah here.

He may have had a case when he thought that free wallet was going to run on classic however I made it clear from the beginning that free wallet would always run on the latest version of counterparty and that free wallet would be how users could access counterparty classic…. So really there’s never been any risk of users ever losing funds…. As I said, it’s all Just in Adam’s head.

He actually asked me to shut down free, wallet, and token scan when he took back over control of counterparty and before there were any wallets or explorers for people to use…. Kind of demonstrated to me that he is only interested in freewallet and tokenscan going away so that he can have a monopoly on his wallet and explorer🤷🏻‍♂️

I’m just a regular guy who loves playing around with technology and building tools to make the technology easier to use and understand… no Messiah.. just a regular dude👍🏻

That's what a Messiah should say. Being modest is their greatest virtue.

the audacity just shut your shit down that 99% of the community uses without anything else

big RED FLAG

I’m new to this (started learning about a year ago) but freewallet is all I’ve used and never had any issues

And it's us long standing users that have invested into the ecosystem with time and funds that get effected, shame really

Well, it’s kind of a crappy time for you to join counterparty in the midst of all this unnecessary drama…. But either way happy to have you as a community member and glad that you find some value in the tools that I’ve written.

Ive been around since 2021 and I've never felt insecure with Freewallet. And I've never seen one person tell their fund were stolen from Freewallet due to it's functionality.

I remember there were easy fixes if worked together but seemed one sided

I’ve observed the drama from afar and it’s obvious that you’ve been willing to work with them, but they just seem to want to monopolize it. Either way, it’s been fun learning about counterparty, freewallet, and “playing with my rarepepes” 😁

I too wish Adam and I could’ve worked together to build a better counterparty…. But he went his own way with forcing changes without consensus on dispensers and villainizing me for speaking out against it….. so that fork in the road has already taken place and I don’t think we’ll ever be back on the same page again…. Best we can hope for is for the fud on both sides to go away and just let Adam do what he thinks is best for counterparty and the community and time will determine if he had the right idea or not…. So far a year and a half in I’m not seeing a ton of improvements and the improvements that he has added a little to no traction….. so I’m not hopeful…. But supposedly he’s funding his venture himself for the most part so it’s only costing him and his investors money out of his own pocket….. which is fine with me

Let's hope that the true alpha bitcoin/cp nfts have their day in the sun once more in the future

I'm catching up now. But I want you to know that I don't hate you. While Ive had problems with your behavior in the past, I have grown to appreciate you more over the last year.

Although we've had our personal differences, when it comes down to it you are an authentic person who is willing to have conversations about important but difficult topics to the best of his as ability.

Although I have been critical, I am also very grateful looking back on it all.
🙇‍♂

Tomorrow will be better

The other room has the swedish pumps you are looking for

Can you let @krostue back in please? I'll behave

No worries bro over the past couple years I’ve done a lot of work on not taking things personally…. Now just showing up as the best version of myself in every instance.

There’s no doubt that before my sense of identity was tied to counterparty, as I had invested so much of my time and energy into the platform, it became tightly intertwined with how I viewed myself and so I was definitely overly defensive in some cases and took things way too personally….

In any case, I’m glad to have you as a community member and your voice contributes to moving things forward👍🏻

Yeah, sure no problem. He’s one of the few people that actually did get banned at some point, but I’ll remove his ban now👍🏻

He should be good to go now👍🏻

@krostue good to have you back in here now that the new overlords of cp have banned most of us lol

When something is important enough, one has to change their socks 🧦

Many thanks
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

you know shits totally fukt when JDog & Duncan start making nice again 😂

Let's hope the trend continues for the betterment of what we all love and invested our time in

In some ways I feel like we are a huge dysfunctional family, where some of us have been verbally abusive to each other in the past, but we can all get along and make this thing work

I firmly believe that each individual involved has the best of intentions. I strive and urine for a point where we can have open line of communication between all parties

I hope you dont want to pee on me 🤣

Reminds my of one of my more favorite Exploding Dog illustrations
"Wake up baby, We're Rich!"

Project: Dank Directory
DONTPEE

Pudgy penguin b4 pudgy

Men SHOULD be verbally abusive. It's wholly natural

Fuck u babynutts😜

🤦‍♂️just saw my typo

Urine luck then that u saw it before anyone else saw😜

Thanks for participating everyone. A clear majority want the warnings removed from Counterparty.io, so I've gone ahead and removed them. ✨

Looks like counterparty.io has been updated… I’ll be removing the red fork warning from tokenscan.io in the AM 👍🏻

Oh that's wonderful news it's always better when the hatchets are buried in the wood block instead of in each other.

Let's hope this is a an inflection point, and the beginning of healing for the counterparty ecosystem and the unnecessarily divided Community

Wow nice

Good boy

I guess no loss for you big loss for them

Happy days a move the good

If you are looking for Rare Pepes and/or BITGIRLS DM me 👧🐸

https://i.gyazo.com/fef48f2ff620b324f07f33890aeefa2a.png

Tokenscan.io and classic.tokenscan.io updated to remove the red fork warning banner... as promised 🙂

🤣🤣🤣

looks like someone is challenging the claim that "horizon censors no tokens"

I wonder if those VCAngels are in all these rooms reading up on the state of coopertition, or if they just get quarterly reports lol
🤑😇™

https://i.gyazo.com/a76784f5eac056afe34a04009f8713c5.png

ugh.... and this is why it is a bad idea to rely on a 3rd party service in a software stack like Counterparty.... previously we had addrindexrs and it worked fine, yes it took up some disk space, but disk space is cheap.... the core devs in their infinite wisdom removed addrindexrs from the counterparty stack and replaced it with a dependency on a 3rd party service electrs.... so now, generating CP transactions rely on an external service not under the CP stack's control to generate transactions

I mentioned this was a bad idea when Adam and team were talking about replacing addrindexrs.... but it was ignored.... YAY, counterparty has a smaller disk footprint ... BOO, we now rely on a 3rd party external service to generate transactions.... previously, all that was needed to generate a CP transaction was a CP node which ran everything from bitcoin to addrindexrs to counterparty... now we replaced a component with an external dependency

</end annoyed rant> 😛

hopefully blockstream.info never goes down lest Counterparty be unable to generate transactions... of course, you can run your own electrs server... but then, why the hell replace addrindexrs with electrs and not make it a part of the stack itself?... questions that should have been asked, but weren't and now we got this type of dependency on a single website staying up in order to generate CP txs 🤮

https://i.gyazo.com/18978b2a66a70dbf88873f061429348d.png

and again.... non-helpful errors from a 3rd party service.. what a PITA

https://i.gyazo.com/7f5ad537b5d1a7c53d74d9cb4d1113c5.png

and on a simple send of some BTC as well... not even a CP tx.. just a normal BTC send... <triggered> 😛

guess I gotta bust out electrum and import a private key and send BTC through some wallet other than a counterparty-compatible wallet... since they all now rely on electrs 🙄️️️️️️

they decided this room was pointless and left in favor of adams room... they did so many months ago.

Yall are spinning in circles over here on dispensers 🤦‍♂️

What is your goal talking with us?

The fork is all but permanent in a week or so,

We are fine with it.

If you have a problem with it, the ONLY solution is to get Adam to put the functions back.

Not kinda put them back a little bit, but not completely put them back. Completely restored.

Otherwise, arguing, calling us names or slandering us in some way is just not productive.

So, what are you trying to accomplish here?

Ok bye

there ya go... Adams VC investor... left this channel in November... less than 1 month of fork chat was all it took for him to bail out 🤷️️️️️️

ahh actually looks like he came back in and has been quietly lurking here... too funny... bet he has a slightly different view on the success of CP 2.0 and atomic swaps now 😛

Here is a link for Jacob to the future: @XChainPlatform

https://x.com/nicolasdorier/status/1919992184969035874?s=46

Reasons why stamps n spamming the utxo set under some “unpruneable” nonsense is bad for bitcoin…. They took it a step further by burning keys, forever bloating the utxo set and making it more difficult to run a node (forcing higher memory requirements), thereby centralizing bitcoin even more…. Kinda the opposite of what bitcoin is all about🤷🏻‍♂️

Just my 2 sats

And these are the ppl who Adam n team are embracing as the future…. Including hiring mikeinspace… Mr. “Unpruneable” stamps himself🤷🏻‍♂️

</end random “I told you so” thoughts> 😜

Still waiting for that breakout like it owes me money 😅

Yh, but come on dude, numeric subassets

So can we not make txs at the min? Even just for bitcoin

I work for an architectural firm as a budgeter and do 2D and 3D design.

A great number to start the day…. LFG💪🥳🚀

Damn! Thats a really cool device

1350 members
Kek

😂

https://i.gyazo.com/c2fa561f9146c76220db9084728216e2.png

a thing of beauty... the xchain indexer only has 8 dependencies... easy peasy...

https://i.gyazo.com/efd3fa889198d9b6ebbcc237d7f038d4.png

meanwhile... counterparty core has 423 dependencies... wonder which one is going to be easier to maintain... muhahahah 🙂

https://fxtwitter.com/LongBranch_Bear/status/1920658958760468678

heh... I parted with one of these a few months ago n GMoney is now the holder of one of these rare items 🙂

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/3156

INSTA GRAIL

FYI... thanks to @DOGESTYLEEE pointing out some issues that he was having creating a dispenser... I identified that Counterparty 2.0 has lost some functionality and users are no longer able to specify a subasset name when creating a dispenser.... even tho they always have been able to in the past, and the current documentation indicates that users should be able to specify subasset name.... I've created an issue for Adam and team to respond to... we'll see if they do the right thing and fix the loss of functionality, or take the easy route and just update the API documentation to indicate users have to specify the numeric asset name now for subassets.

Really makes me wonder WTF their test suite with 100% coverage is testing... when there is loss of functionality like this and their test suite doesn't catch it

I think most ppl overlook it cuz of the high supply.... and fail to realize that only 23 exist 🙂

According to his expert pedantic approach, it is simply a bug (not to be confused with ineptitude)

Hm, that's a possible bug. Will investigate

Hm, that's a possible bug. (Rather than "lost functionality".) Will investigate

Hopefully fixed soon

Updated - 528 XCP available on verified dispensers (2.0)

https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/e9a9784e6d216e104735b446e13ac1e28787fa6243864b09a0fbd588d1063139 -- 0.00006905 -- 211 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/208871b625614f5acf531654a011ad1b2f3531588337499d28984b49f58de3b8 -- 0.00006969 -- 65 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/5a505d17b0aa44bae127ac41853a3d2b97888ea3ee3588b32158ab3310dde294 -- 0.00008000 -- 22 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/99e08f63e38877b51c8e2ab141d52c3141c21c953ea5ace76b201f48a5b79fe4 -- 0.00009500 -- 30 XCP
https://horizon.market/explorer/tx/36cf9bde3243fe5d82cb7113f93801680385d30827675ae0c2af612b9503abd3 -- 0.00009999 -- 200 XCP

- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers

It seems like a "test suite" should be as simple as having 1 person who knows how to use counterparty, and having them try all the things for an hour before release

More like a week or two before release

Sup everybody

that is how I did testing beforee a release.... it was time consuming, but you thouroughly test the area which you did code changes to... as the dev, your accutely aware of what code you changed and how it could effect the functionality, so you test the shit out of the thing that changed.... here are a couple examples of things javier and I released.. and you can see in the pull request there is a bunch of testing and links to the transactions where the testing took place, etc..... test, find something that is not working, go back and fix it, test everything again and again..... automated testing is nice, but quite often it can miss things, especially if you dont write a test case for every single error/check in the code

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/pull/1267

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/pull/1193

btw... almost done with the xchain indexer... got swaps (swapping one token for another) working... just got orders and dispensers to finish up next week, then on to writing the xchain platform test suite... which will have a test case for every single error check in a function

https://i.gyazo.com/3683104ccf6306b2b6d5f3d99bc8188c.png

ie... every one of those "Verify X blah blah blah" checks will have a test in the test suite which makes sure that the code is continuing to function, return the correct status on a transaction, and make the appropriate changes to the database..... the indexer will hae its own test suite, and Javier already the test suite for the encoder and decoder working.... there is a benefit to having all the components being separated, your able to test each one thouroughly, and also able to wrap the code up into portable modules (like wrapping up the encoder library into a standalone library which can be used by wallet devs without the need to run a node to generate and encode transactions) 🙂

blah blah blah... enough about xchain platform... just waking up... but, wanted to demonstrate proper testing should be done 😛

BOBDOBBS is one of the finest Rarepepes. It's in my top 5 for many reasons. Love it

https://youtu.be/oBPCLw66BHo?si=8MEAt82B9MYK70GO

https://x.com/leishman/status/1921746985129799933?s=52

A well founded commentary on the Bitcoin Core OP_RETURN issue, Leishman, CTO of River.

Probably a month lol

Dump getting started again. Fasten your seatbelts!

You mean that dump? Lol. Sorry juvenile but you make the same comment every week. Kinda botish.

Is this Pepe the same as wtfrarepepe?

No

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWIYsqIooQ

Selling up to 1000xcp, dm if you are interested.

lol. I figured that thank you.

To me it looks like the most effort you put in to is this telegram chat.

😁

Indeed, it's almost like his 10 year connection to the community isn't just a coincidence.

its almost like hes doing everything he can to rip out the guts of xcp and make it stamp party

Fukin Vector.
Frogs touched the sun.
They know it.
Lizards are mad.

Yet another example of Adam’s great leadership…. JP Jansen a community member who has been here since the beginning and been involved in counterparty for far longer than Adam has raise the same objections that I did with Adam changing consensus hashes going back 10 years and even pointed out that asset ownership has been changed for some assets with this update…. Adam’s response? Reconsider his position? Take even a moment to think about how this change could cause problems for community members and making it impossible to verify the data has been properly going back 10 years?

No, his immediate response is to call any objections to his idea which is being forced into counterparty as ridiculous, and then go further to limit conversation on the topic so that no one else can object .

Anyone who had any doubt about Adam’s lack of leadership and thought that counterparty was still an open source community driven project can simply look no further than this post here …. Where an idea was proposed quietly in a corner of gate hub and when no one objected, Adam forced the changes on people and when people finally noticed the changes and raise objections about how this break things and changes asset ownership, they are called ridiculous muted so that they can no longer converse on the topic…. And Adam is free to continue, forcing more changes into counterparty.

It’s truly a sad state of things and I did my absolute best to warn people that this is the direction that things were going if we allowed changes to be forced into counterparty like the changes with dispensers ..

Fast-forward a year and a half later, and we are exactly where I knew we would be …. Counterparty is a centralized project driven by Adam and his for-profit company, and community means nothing to him other than a term to indicate that there are some users which he can try to force to do things his way…. The community no longer has any say in the direction of counterparty..

This is yet another reason why I saw the writing on the wall a year and a half ago and started pushing forward with the X chain platform….. a truly community driven project with all the same functionality as counterparty and more

Thank god for J Dog

And make sure you pay attention to the community members who still fully embrace everything that Adam is doing regardless of who he ignores, and what changes are forced upon the community…

If you’re paying attention a number of long time community members as slowly distance themselves from counterparty , and have privately voiced great concerns that Adam and his team would eventually screw them over….. I did my best to try to rally people behind a community driven version of counterparty and not allow dispenser changes to be forced up on the community….. however, unfortunately some people have not had enough interactions with Adam to be able to see his true intentions….

And other community members that some people still respect, have seen exactly what Adam is doing to counterparty by forcing changes and alienating anyone who disagrees with him , and they still fully embrace Adam and everything he does…. He’s looking at you, Joe Looney, Mike in space and a few other community members…. You said you were all about the protection of counterparty and the community and yet you let things fall to the state that they are in now through either sheer ignorance or through your hyper focus on getting promised liquidity…… which by the way has not and will not show up for atomic swaps, or they supposed magic Eden listing which was promised which is not seem to materialize.

Ever since Adam took over the price of SCP has continued to fall, and the user base continues to be drastically divided …. And previous evangelist for counterparty no longer feel comfortable advising people to use counterparty as the state of things is in such a poor state.

sucks for people that have bought assets on Adams fork including myself who eventually may get a rugpll from those assets if they arent on classic as well

all very true

Classic pepe Class is born 😎

lol… you clearly don’t know me very well then, sir…. Maybe poke your head up and look around the ecosystem and ask yourself who built the most used explorer who built the most used wallet? Who wrote the BTNS system and built it out as a proof of concept? Who’s stuck around counterparty for 10 years and funded it out of his own pocket for a large majority of that?

Not much activity on GitHub for me lately either because all of the chain repositories are private until I release them publicly….. You’re entitled to your opinion and it is unfortunate that all that you can see. Is that a few times a week I pop into this chat and speak my mind….. but I’m not like most people, sir. I contribute far more code and ideas than I do words…. Stick around… you’ll find out.

to me it looks like Stack got a new sock account

Do you guys started to use classic chain already?

Yeah, he enjoys the narrative that he wrote counterparty and has been running it for 10 years…. When the reality is, he wrote it and then bailed the fuck out on it for a for-profit company which failed…. He spent tens of millions of dollars in VC funds through his company trying to become profitable…. And then when his company finally went bankrupt, he comes back and asks if he can start working on counterparty, knowing full well that he wanted to take total control of it.

Meanwhile, a handful of us have stuck around counterparty for the entire 10 years that he was gone and built a lot of incredible things on the platform, including Spells of Genesis rare Pepe, mafia wars, and a handful of other NFT projects that were the birth of NFTs….

Few people take the time to actually understand the history, which is that he has been involved in counterparty for less than two years …. One year when he wrote the platform and then decided to bail out on it and leave it to the community and one year when he came back in a centralized control and done everything in his power to take control of the community…. Which has failed drastically.

can you please stop spreading fear to the public?

Did you get back on your meds Stack?

Nothing changed. same 10 people. insulting all the new comers and all the other people that not like them

i would understand there was nothing else to do

but there are plenty of work to do for CP

focus. thanks

your terrible syntax remains you are easy to spot

Actually, if you look at what’s being said here, no one is insulting newcomers, and in fact, the majority of the conversation is about development and how it has been centralized in how developers who want to contribute to the project are being ignored and ridiculed….. but you see it as you wanna see it, bro

Oh, there is huh? Perhaps bring up your suggestions to Adam and try to work on community building or contributing code to counterparty core and see how that works out for you…. Many of us have tried, and you will get the same result that we have… everything’s fine as long as you agree with what Adam is doing, but as soon as you raise an objection or say something that he doesn’t like you are banned or censored or called ridiculous or your objections are ignored and changes are forced into the code base

Who is Adam?

Forgive me if I’m a little riled up that a project that I invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into keeping it alive and over 10 years of my life building on has gone to shit in less than a year and a half under the leadership of Adam and his handful of supporters

i never met that guy nor do i know him

this is obvious you are developing the code around your bags

i would have said that without you noticing it

Wow, you’re really up-to-date on the current state of counterparty and who is in charge of the repository and all of the drama over the past couple years that has taken place as a result of ignoring community consensus, forcing changes into the code base,

all development you did was to benefit mostly you

right?

What are you even talking about, bro?

I own one percent of XP and hold over 40,000 assets … and yet I’m walking away from all of that value in order to build a brand new platform called X chain platform….. so I don’t know where you’re getting the narrative that I’m just trying to pump my bags but actually I’m building something for the community because that is what matters to me far more than money or my bags….

The more you talk the more it becomes clear that you are relatively new here and have no idea about the current state of things or about the history of the past 10 years and who has kept counterparty alive and funded it

why do you point explorers and other features as you have done it for public if you say you are owner. its yours and you charge money to use it or charge money to show correct data.

i came here to talk about one issue i found on CP

and i want to see it will be admitted as an issue

here we go again

or as always will be neglected as i am the one crazy

i wanted to ask why someone like jdog or adam or someone else are deciding what is collection and what is not?

it is all about who owns explorers not of what we own

you can show what ever you want

and we want, permisionless transparent data and actions

I have written the explorers and wallets for the community as they are free to use….. however continuing to develop and run those things cost money which I continue to contribute to counterparty.

As far as saying things that I’ve owned, I have only mentioned that I own one percent of the currency of XCP and 40,000 asset names simply to point out that me building something that is not counterparty does not benefit my bags … quite the opposite in fact… just countering your false narrative that I am simply motivated by my bags, and I only build for profit and to show my bags

ok my question would be simple, jdog

he's mad you blocked his scam token hey Stack I heard you got rugged on atomic swaps for like 50K pepecash

I’m just engaging with you now as it seems like we’re going in circles and I don’t wanna waste any more time on your false narratives when you really are showing how little you have been involved in counterparty and how little history you know

if i want a green badge

why i have to pay money for it?

did Adam reimburse you for that pepecash

fafo

looool

gmoney man please let me talk i am here to ask normal questions

bitcoin has to be permissionless

i have to determine what collection is mine or not

but not jdog

or adam

just reply if Adam took care of that lost asset you sent with utxo

y or n?

no

of course not

they banned me

of not being polite

they expected me to say thank you :)

jajajaja so why are you here you cant fight with everyone

pick a side or go cry in the corner

?

i do not need sides

You don’t have to pay for a green banner. Some projects have decided to support X chain and token scan and the hosting cost, which I continue to eat and pay for a banner. However, the large majority of projects have not paid for the green banner…..

I also find it interesting that you are upset about maybe five or six projects that have paid $1000 for a green banner when I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past few years, keeping free, wallet and token scan up and running and free for the community to use .

I’ve been driving this whole time but now I’m pulling up to my house in about ready to get back to work so I’m done engaging with you bro ….

I hope you have a nice day

oh no you get me wrong

i am not sure how many people paid, nor it is my main point of writing this

all i wanted to say

that there is no such function to sign with wallet address, simple signature

and be able to edit json and add your own collection

without permission or asking you

Yeah, I agree with your GMoney. He feels very much like stack. Who is on medication…. A bit more stable and able to talk in more complete sentences, but still the same narrative of pretending to play stupid and at the same time pretending to know everything about what’s going on in the ecosystem and asking questions to try to get to some aha moment…. Weird.🤷🏻‍♂️

worst to me is to be asking you something

imagine stack asking jdog for help

how to avoid that?

so you not agree that bitcoin and layers on it has to be permissionless ?

you want people come asking you?

Now the true test if this is stack or not, we stop engaging with them and see how long he rants on🤷🏻‍♂️😜

i asked serious questions

write your own indexer stack no one is stopping you

I'm banned from posting memes till the 22nd......
Kek

is it possible to have public explorers transparent and equal to everyone. and that there would not be centralization around few projects and opinions but that people could built freely on counterparty

go build it

i am building

i faced permission issues now

and we talk about this at the moment

my question is simple

do you believe in permissionless counterparty?

or should we keep asking jdog to do something and begg him?

i do not want to ask him anything. and i still want to be equal on his explorer if its public

in short words. i do not need his opinion of what i do or what i want to do

how to avoid asking people that you do not want to ask?

Yup xchain explorer will be open source and included on every node 👍🏻

and this question i asked or planning to ask every explorer provider

only STAMPS did a good job

as always...

stamped.ninja the only explorer who is permissionless

thanks to them

people on that explorer can control collections and decide themself what do they own

@mobdick47 aka new stack sock account warning keep the comments on topic or you will be removed

???

what

i will remove your fucking ass

can you at least ONCE talk normally? to something people ask about counterparty

stop playing god likes

bitcoin is permissionless anything built on top of that is up to the people that build it and can do whatever they want. if you dont like that go build your own.

ok so again

explorers that are pitched us

are based on soemone opinion, and data shown is the data they want to "sell" us

am i right?

At the end of the day, someone has to be making decisions for what does and does not get into counterparty…. As there are developers that control the repository just like Bitcoin.

However, how those developers choose to operate, determines the tone of the project …. I chose to operate from a place of safety and make sure that we always had consensus for changes before anything was pushed into counterparty…. This made for a much slower development process, but much less conflict than we see now.

With Adam, you see the opposite side of that coin you see a centralized developer, deciding what is best for the community and ignoring the communities objections….

Yes, I want counterparty to be permissionlrss , yes, whenever there is a way to do something in a decentralized manner that is the way I choose to do it…. If you disagree with something that is being done rather than complaining and trying to question those who are actually contributing perhaps you should do as GMoney suggested and write a Blockchain explorer, and put forth how you would do decentralized permission project listings…. Perhaps your explorer would get a lot of attention…. Perhaps your idea would catch on other Blockchain explorers would follow suit and allow listing of projects in the same way.

But as of right now, all you are contributing is opinions and rhetoric about how things should be permissionlrss and yet you contribute no code to move us further towards that goal .

Those who can, do. Those who can’t, talk…. I suggest you focus more on talking less and doing more

OK thank you

shorten up your time and to all have a nice evening, last questions

i want to deploy collection

and especially i want it to be visible on tokenscan as green badge

what should i do? i can prepare all the jsons and stuff

how can someone qualify

without asking for permission

has to be approved by JDog and you have to pay a fee like I did

My focus is on X chain platform right now and building that…. However, the open source explore that I have written will be included in every note that runs X chain platform…. And if there is a easy permissionless decentralized way to do project listings. I will happily integrated into the block explorer that I am developing…..

However, I have no interest in investing any more time or energy into updating token scan at this point as I believe counterparty’s days are numbered, and my time is better spent building something new with more functionality that supports an infinite number of chains and supports cross chain functionality

ok so we need to pay money for explorer to show data as supposed to be the very function of it?

who dont you learn a simple way like stamped.ninja did?

why Jgod has to approve something?

why should i care jdog , seriously ?

and again, nothing personal.

you pay money for advertising your project

but what sigle opinion has to do with me

i control my decisions

my collection

my mints

THERE IS NO JDOG IN MY PLAN

and i am not going to ask permission

and there is no adam

you want extra features from a private company you have to pay

or another dev

i seek simple solution to decentralization

is there any?

last chance

or you get z hammer

last chance what?

stop this nonsense

you are harassing me to ban me because i asked normal questions?

wanna show power or what?

you were banned previously I gave you a chance to say something meaningful but I knew you werent capable anyway

i asked normal questions dude

bye Stack

You seem to be here sharing a lot of opinions and slinging accusations so it’s clear that you care…. I simply suggest that you care by contributing code to demonstrate that you care…. Talk is easy…..

If we’re being honest, this is part of the reason why no one takes you seriously … you call everyone else idiots and say that you’re the smartest person in the room, yet when it comes to actually contributing something to the project other than a loud voice, I see nothing that you have contributed as far as explorers wallets, etc.

I could be wrong, but all that I see that you have contributed is malice towards the developers who have been here for 10+ years and self-serving “ I’m the smartest person in the room and you all are idiots.” Rhetoric.

If you’re truly interested in contributing, you could very easily read what has been said here and contribute code and things other than just opinions and objections… but as I said talk is cheap and easy and I feel that that is all you will continue to contribute.

Prove me wrong … go quiet for a few weeks and build a Blockchain and explore that allows for project listings through address signatures as you suggested and return here and demonstrate it… as I’ve already said if it is a workable solution that makes sense. I’m open to integrating it into my Blockchain explorer.

I encourage you to review the content policy in the pinned message and consider this your first warning.. you’re more than welcome to object and voice, differing opinions here by calling people punts is unacceptable and will be muted in band if you continue to be disruptive in that manner

Oh boy, here we go again with more stack rents…. Gonna finish getting my green apple detox smoothie and then get back to work…

True stack form… join a channel rant a whole bunch, then leave and delete all of his comments so no one can see how toxic his comments are🤷🏻‍♂️

I banned and deleted 2nd Stack sock

In the future, if you feel the need to ban someone just ban them, don’t delete their comments as it’s important to show what led to the banning

I left his previous sock comments there so we have the history but its all the same nonsense he said 6 months ago

Thanks bro. Hope you’re having a good morning

Someone dumped Dan Dark PIlls this AM 👀

someone was dumping dark pills this morning

fun times

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i asked on another counterparty chat mostly of tokenscan guys how can someone interact with explorer, deploy collections and act equally like all other without permission of anyone. as bitcoin should be. and got banned for that question

LOL... stack spinning false narratives everywhere.... hes in Adams Cp channel saying we banned him for simply asking a question... what a tool... did our best to answer his question at length, but all he sees is his own opinion

like I said... those who can, do... those who can't like to talk.... clearly he prefers to talk and have things spoon-fed to him rather than putting any amount of work into actually creating something that operates the way he believes it should 🤷️️️️️️