- 01 December 2024 (12 messages)
-
I’ll ask same question here as I did in other chat. What’s the plan for growing xcp value? Using dispensers takes away from xcp value obviously so keeping them isn’t great for long term growth in my opinion. Adam’s plan for swaps would also take away from xcp value if I understand it correctly. Thoughts?
-
Same could be said for emblem vaults. Never used and never will. We should incentivize playing on the dex on our side. If people want the frogs they will come.
-
Are there any examples of a successful protocol that has a token that is basically dead or unused within crypto?
-
US MAFIA LOGS
Great deals on Quality Logs
-
Its used all the time, as Counterparty's native currency
https://tokenscan.io/orders -
-
That’s not that much plus half the orders or more are likely by the same 2 or 3 people. My point is that the token value is not great relatively speaking for such low supply. It’s not widely used and the bulk of sales happen on other platforms using ETH or via dispensers with BTC. Those all take value away from the CP and XCP.
-
-
Now that the protocol is being tuned up and actively developed the focus should be on driving traffic to using xcp not away from it
-
There’s like a few hundred people that may use it throughout the year. That’s not great
-
-
If the protocol becomes more user friendly with tools for the general person to use easily then xcp could organically grow in value and not have to worry about being pumped on an exchange. If we close the off ramps over time and it’s easy for more people to transact on CP via dex, that’s the way to have a lasting success and not short term pumps by traders.
- 02 December 2024 (17 messages)
-
24 hours later and no feedback. Nice.
-
I dont see your question asked in the "other" chat, and honestly, its not like the ppl in this chat are here to serve you and answer your questions and pump CP.... CP has existed and grown its userbase by simply having features that the community uses, and having tons of historical projects on it.... This "How do we pump XCP and grow usage" question has been asked many times over the 10+ years of history... if you want an answer, perhaps try searching the chat history using keywords vs expecting answers spoon fed to ya by the community... no offense meant, but seems like kinda trollish behavior... the only things I see you saying in the CP 2.0 channel are anti-freewallet and in support of 2.0 (which is fine)... but, sure seems like your behavior is a bit like a troll... ask question, get answers, dont like answers, so say you got no feedback... seems kinda trollish 🤷️️️️️️
-
-
-
theres a lot more than a few hundred people that use counterparty... https://i.gyazo.com/5f80ae751187555bc56f85c014d0b777.png
-
-
You did get feedback. Why lie about it? Sometimes you need to be the change you want to see in the world. So have at it, nobody is stopping you.
-
-
-
feel free to browse the vitrol, hatred, and trolling in that channel without having to join via the chat logs 🙂 https://j-dog.net/archive/CounterpartyOriginalClassic/Page 1 - Dec 2024 - Counterparty Original Classic Chat - Telegram message archive.
Counterparty Original Classic - - Telegram message archive.
-
-
Well you know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, or something... When trolls have to resort to these kind of tactics, it means they know they've lost the argument, can't debate in good faith.
-
Does anyone know what this is? Hi friends
-
a scam
-
-
BANKXCP is yet another token some scammers try to use to trick ppl into stealing their funds.
The scam goes like this...
1. Setup website with fake counterwallet login page
2. Create scam token and token supply and set description to point people to fake counterwallet page
3. Send scam token to a bunch of wallets (usually large XCP holders, tho others have been targeted too)
4. Wait for people to follow token link to fake counterwallet login site and login using their 12-word passphrase
5. Steal people's funds from their wallet with their newly stolen 12-word passphrase.
These scammers been at it for years... whenever I detect one of these scammers, I add it to a special blacklist on tokenscan.io where the token info is just not displayed to anyone... As this is the simplest way to protect people from following the link to the fake counterwallet site... if ppl dont see the scammer token and link, they won't be falling for the scam.
Here is a list of some of the tokens that have used this scam over the years to try and trick ppl and steal their 12-word passphrase :
BONUSBTC, BONUSXCP, COUNTEREVENT, COVALCC, BACONXCP, BITTENSOR, BNSXCP, BARXCP, CLAIMXCP, BITGETTOKEN, BANKXCP, BANKMOOD, BLOCKMOOD, BUSDXCP, BUCKETEVENT, BUCKETXCP, HERBSTERS -
Thanks for the information, friend @BrrrGuy
- 03 December 2024 (14 messages)
-
👍
-
-
looks like the fork is doing great 😆
-
-
-
-
got taproot support ready to go as well (we had it ready in December of last year... but the PR was never merged in)... so, will do some testing and then add support for that in the next release.... which will make for even cheaper txs and ability to encode way larger amounts of data (p2tr > multisig)
-
-
Jdog I assume you are the dev and maintainer for xcp classic. Will you merge your efforts from xchain platform into xcp classic? Also are you ever going to change your name back to Jdog?
-
-
XChain platform is what I am primarily focused on.... I will maintain Counterparty Classic and make updates when necessary or when the community wants changes and comes to consensus... but, my Primary focus is on XChain platform, a completely independent multi-chain platform that will launch in early 2025. I have no plans to return to this channel as J-Dog at this time.. perhaps some day in the future. I made great efforts 9 months ago to remove "Counterparty" drama from my J-Dog telegram channels and sphere of influcence.... so, I have BrrrGuy account for when I decide I want to tune into Counterparty related issues, but I dont want it to be as ingrained in my daily life as it has been for the past 10 years.... I'm still here, still running stuff and here for the community... but, I can't make counterparty as much of my life as I have in the past.... to most ppl, it will prolly look the same, but as I said, my primary focus is on XChain platform and Dankest, LLC.
-
sent you a DM.
-
Taproot support is huge! - when MCAT so we can do a bunch of xcp functions for cheaper :)
-
Just wrote about a historical Counterparty gem by the legendary Koji Higashi.
If you aren't aware of CNPCOIN and the history of premium written content backed by a Counterparty token from 2014, you should give this a read:
https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1864074766975373485 - 04 December 2024 (11 messages)
-
You have all the best info !! I would love to sit down and have you talk at me about this stuff for 10-15 hours haha !! 😂 so great
-
Thank JPJ for that awesome idea. Nice job scooping up the prefix.
-
Live?
-
Yes, Counterparty 2.0 and Counterparty classic are permanently severed as of block 873000. Now you can interact with counterparty 2.0 ledger by continuing to use FreeWallet or other CP wallets, or use Counterparty Classic by downloading freewallet.io/classic... also will spin up a counterwallet instance for classic in another day or two
-
Well I guess 2.0 Forkaround.findout 😂
-
If I'm still on 9.6 am I on classic, or best download fresh
-
Haven't updated for a while kek
-
update to most recent version to use xcp 2.0 - most recent version is 2.0.1 - lots of stuff has changed - better fee estimations shown now in sat/vb, server settings have changed, added support for open fairmints etc
-
What if I want to use classic?
-
-
Yes I read, but is that assuming I have updated to 2.0, my question was specific about 4 posts above
- 05 December 2024 (60 messages)
-
You have to get freewallet classic to use classic is believe
-
9.6 is counterparty
-
I'm probably wrong
-
I downloaded classic, and worked for the classic ledger.
My other wallet was interacting with counterparty -
Seems accurate
-
It is .... but dispensers have been changed at a protocol level for 2.0 so best to use most recent version as to not make any mistakes
-
So best to update to latest version, and download classic if one wants to?
-
Bitcoin hits over 100k
-
-
-
-
-
That’s what I did.
I do have different balances though.
I bought a couple of cards on counterparty that won’t show up on my classic version.
As well as a couple of tokens I minted. That won’t show up on both unless you create the token again -
Yes, they are separate now
-
-
-
Cheers for Intel
-
-
-
do you offer some unique insights into the world of Counterparty?
-
Yeah a Motivation
-
-
Please guys 😄
-
What's your stance on Counterparty Classic vs. Counterparty 2.0?
-
Counterparty 2.0 is generally favored over Counterparty Classic for its enhanced features,and modern architecture, but the choice depends on user preference.
-
Cmon Babu, that's not an opinion, it sounds like something you pasted from ChatGPT
-
Sounds like trying to search for an individual rare on opensea
-
Only those who know how will find the sauce
-
Just tried, after years yes this is still the same, used to be easy
-
How many of those BTC were yours?
-
-
I was honestly just curious
-
You didn't answer either of my questions. But to answer yours, it really depends on a lot of factors. Obviously not to the same magnitude as in 2014, for obvious reasons. But possibly. Depends on what kind of perceived value they are getting in return.
I think Counterparty was doing just fine before the recent drama. Honestly I have never given a fuck if XCP pumps or not. -
What is new?
-
this was my 2nd question
-
this one
-
-
For a lot of us that have been around for years (in my case a decade+), the division is truly disheartening. While the old devs have introduced some cool new features, attempted to streamline node-running & so forth, the end goal appears to be attracting some of the Ordinals/BRC20/Runes degens, which lets face it, specialize in the manufacture, sales & marketing of dung. Not entirely dissimilar to Solana.
I gave up hoping XCP would pump a long time ago and just learned to accept it for what it was: a true utility token. -
Smack my big ticker
-
-
-
-
-
Q pasa putos, dejen de pelearse.
-
-
This chat is always on fire.
-
U need to banned from the toiletw
-
-
-
Me and Doge are the same account.
-
Nice day brother
-
Are you same xoblort from Poloniex? Brings back some trollbox memories.
-
-
Stay on topic or you are out
-
-
Was XDP ever listed on Poloniex? I remember earning FLDC and trading on Poloniex, which was my first centralized exchange. However, I think I somehow missed XDP there.
-
Yes, they are still the largest holders of XDP. I hope they forgot their seed phrase TBH.
-
Oh , wow .... That means a lot .
-
Now I have the same hope )
-
- 07 December 2024 (2 messages)
-
How you doing Mia?
-
- 08 December 2024 (45 messages)
-
BREAKING: U.S. TREASURY REPORT SAYS "TOKENIZATION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO UNLOCK THE BENEFITS OF PROGRAMMABLE, INTEROPERABLE LEDGERS TO A WIDER ARRAY OF LEGACY FINANCIAL ASSETS"
FROGS TO DESTROY THEM? 🤔
https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/221/CombinedChargesforArchivesQ42024.pdf -
I agree.
-
I see that someone is trying to give links to marketers and scammers in this group, which is making it less trustworthy. Probably the aims of those , who give the links to ppl with japan language
-
Cool story bro
-
Okay, I might be a bit paranoid. ;)
-
-
-
-
-
i missed all the drama stuff.
dunno what happened but saw in wallet chat jdgos stuff still working and what not -
-
Xcer, you know full well the content policy in here as you had administrator powers for many years before you started berating people based off their wallet size and history and telling people who had differing opinions than you that their opinion didnt matter. It is clear that there are 2 versions of CP, and that this channel is for whomever wants to be here, but you need to engage respectfully or else you will be muted. If you hate this channel and your only purpose here is to troll and spew hatred, then I encourage you to leave this channel of your own accord. Please consider this your warning. I dont want to have to mute you here.
-
yup, freewallet still works as it always has, and is on the CP 2.0 version, as I believe that is what most users would expect to interact with, and I have no intention of misleading users or pushing them to use a version of CP that they are not wanting to use... so FreeWallet works on Counterparty 2.0, as does tokenscan.io... the only difference is that a bunch of drama happened in the past couple months, stuff was broken, tempers flared and some ppl rage quit this channel, and refused to re-enable features that many in the community wanted reinstated... and now there are 2 ledgers... Feel free to ignore the drama and just carry on using CP as you always have.. 99% of it still works the same (except dispensers are more expensive and more difficult to manage now)... other than that, just drama and noise you can ignore... or dig into.. up to you 🙂
-
coping hard af to boot licking tyants
-
hows that 2.0 fork working for ya? lost funds bugs and a bunch of chinese pump n dump bots? those are your masters now
-
-
binance shilling tramp stamps 😆 https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/what-are-bitcoin-stampsBinance - Cryptocurrency Exchange for Bitcoin, Ethereum & Altcoins
Binance is the largest cryptocurrency exchange by trading volume, serving 185M+ users across 180+ countries. With over 350 listed Altcoins, it is the world’s leading crypto exchange.
-
Currently available OTC: 800 XCP @ 8800 sats (0.0704 BTC total)
Just DM for more info -
It's fascinating how your perspective is shaped by what is comfortable for you to understand. However, the truth is that this perspective is just an illusion. We are quite different, and these differences reveal many true aspects of ourselves. Within these words, there are numerous thoughts to uncover between the lines. I usually don’t express myself in this way when I criticize others without fully understanding their stance. But that seems acceptable in the online context. I want to preserve something that has always existed, though I recognize that it is now in the past. I do not support any particular side and have no personal interest in any of those sides. But come on—help me understand who actually holds power nowadays! ;)
-
Maybe bad advertising by trying to moke ppl is even good in some heads , dunno .
-
classic or 2.0?
-
Nice to see anyone else can say classic or 2.0
-
-
3.0.... kek
-
In the rare chat, do as I say but not as I do
-
Yep Joe banned me for the exact same comment
-
4.20 version coming...
-
And I got permo muted for saying "banned for this? "
-
-
Now they all discussing it
-
-
-
Official 1.0 or 2.0? 🤣
-
Community consensus is the MOST important thing unless you fork
-
Hilarious we hear community consensus, while 99% of the community didn’t want a fork lmao
-
-
-
Well they free to discuss fork in rare chat, we can't say 3 words each
-
-
-
2.0
-
-
Yes
-
yup 3.0... and they say I'm creating FUD and misleading ppl... oy vey... also, I find it interesting how the narrative is ever shifting... a few weeks ago it was "there is only one Counterparty... no 2.0 or classic"... now all of a sudden mentions of 3.0... seems like all the ppl accusing me of FUD and whatnot would want to clarify that "There is only one CP"... but seems now they are the ones spreading division and confusion by mentioning 3.0.... I've honestly given up on trying to figure out ppls motivations at this point... seems like many ppl talk in circles and change their opinions daily... 2 weeks ago Xcer was "I like Jdog and Gmoney no matter what they say or attack"... today it seems to be "J used to by my boy...." and "Fuck you guys who supported classic."... the narrative change and "I like you" to "I hate you" switches are headspinning.... guess i'm glad I dont base my opinion on those around me, and stick to my values, regardless of who agrees or disagrees with them 🤷️️️️️️
-
- 09 December 2024 (47 messages)
-
Meanwhile people are making pretty cool stuff
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2749DEX Market Makers · Issue #2749 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreI had a thought recently and have been trying to think it through figured I would drop it here for discussion. Proper AMM's will require quite a bit of new logic, testing and new database table...
-
-
I need to hear it a few more times before I believe it
-
2.7TRX for president ⚡️
-
6.9TRX
-
Question how can I move some Bitcoin from my counterparty wallet to cashapp.? Is that possible?
-
Yeah if ur Cash App provides you with a BTC deposit address
-
Yeah, there are definitely interesting proposals that have happened over the years… the truly interesting thing in this case, however is that the idea is proposed and then immediately approved by Adam and slated for being added to the protocol without any real community discussion…. Further emphasizing that the protocol is centralized and it really comes down to the opinion of Adam to determine what is best for counterparty 2.0 without any real community discussion or feedback.
This is one of the reasons why counterparty was slow to progress over the years because the community was consulted and pretty much every change the community needed to see as an improvement and come to consensus on…. we could’ve had AML/KYC compliant token functionality (optional), which would’ve on onboarded a lot of companies and businesses a number of years ago. Had the community been able to come to consensus on adding features such as a list… yet no consensus, so the feature was not added.
Seems like now as long as Adam likes your proposal, it’s immediately approved of and added to the protocol🤷🏻♂️
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2749#issuecomment-2528310035DEX Market Makers · Issue #2749 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreI had a thought recently and have been trying to think it through figured I would drop it here for discussion. Proper AMM's will require quite a bit of new logic, testing and new database table...
-
-
-
-
And... once again, Asking valid questions about guidelines for moving an idea from an idea into a protocol change are censored and marked a "off-topic".... Thou shalt not question Adam's infinite wisdom... such a sad state of affairs to mute, censor, and stiffle people from being able to ask valid questions of the developers of a supposedly "community driven" project 🤷️️️️️️
-
May not mean much to you, but to some of us, it matters a bunch..... There is a reason why I didn't force changes into CP... got lots of stuff I would have loved to add, but dont feel forcing things in over community consensus was the right path forward... apparently Adam and the CP 2.0 team feel differently..... also, stil waiting on this mass user onboarding that was supposed to happen with these new features... seems pretty dead man 🤷️️️️️️
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
anyone know if dextrade is on 2.0 or classic?
-
2.0... so expect them to be down for another couple days and disable withdraws, as they do everytime they have any issues with CP 2.0
-
it's simple: everyone is on 2.0, see list here: https://docs.counterparty.io/docs/basics/faq/
tokenscan runs both 2.0 and classicFAQ | CounterpartyCan I secure my XCP and Counterparty tokens in cold storage?
-
"Everyone"... yep, that is adams interpretation of the fork and pushing his narrative... also interesting that he scrubbed the "Projects" list from the site and only seems to care about listing the marketplaces and explorers.... no real care for the history of projects built on the platfom for the past 10 years.
-
Disengaging now... got work to do... Have a great day 🙂
-
Funny how whenever CP 2.0 has issues and the network is down... the attack dogs come out to try and spin the narrative and distract from the fact that CP 2.0 is down and make it all about "everyone is on CP 2.0"... comical
-
-
-
-
There is a whole channel dedicated to gangstalking him bruv
-
They call it their cock
-
-
Its nuts!
-
Kek
-
See what I did there?
-
-
-
-
hey, it seems there’s a problem with node. Mine was running fine for a month and now it’s failing. Using the latest version (v10.7.3)
Full error message.
https://pastebin.com/raw/ASpx3D20 -
-
This message by Adam says that the team has identified the root cause and they now cutting a hotfix;
https://t.me/counterpartygeneral/4175Adam in Counterpartyyup we have a PR with the fix in it: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/pull/2813 Enhanced Sends and MPMA transactions weren't setting the msg_index correctly, and when someone tried to do a UTXO move in the same Bitcoin transaction as an Enhanced Send, it caused the main node process to fail a tx uniqueness sanity check
-
thanks, didn’t now there’s another chat 🙏
-
Are you running some public business or service, or is it just your private node? Just curious!
-
Yup... Adam (the core developer of cp 2.0) rage-quit the channel after being asked some questions he didn't like and started a new channel 🤷️️️️️️
-
I have a small community of enthusiasts that I build stuff for. We minted PEPEFAIR when it launched so now I’m keeping that node
-
That breaks Joe's heart, he was hoping to instigate
-
- 10 December 2024 (7 messages)
-
GROGGO
-
Question, I was able to send bitcoin to my cashapp yesterday so I did a test and it went Thur fast any easy. When I tried to move the rest it wont let me and the wheel just spawn and timed out. Why won't it let me send again? From my counterparty wallet is any one else have this problem?
-
Try cash.app/help
-
Its not cashapp it counterparty wont send
-
Close and reopen
-
Love your hat tried that.
-
Which wallet?
- 11 December 2024 (3 messages)
-
-
-
- 12 December 2024 (5 messages)
-
Sure, thanks
-
https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/SOLITAIRE
SOLITAIRE
SUPPLY 100
HOLDERS 44
dispenser:
https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/bc1ad28666b291deec795807304f8d7bf7a5aa7dde8b89541ad23d5df5aed132
*UNFRAMED VERSION OF SOLITAIREART Bitcorn Directory -
-
TROJANSPAM (Dank Directory)
https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/TROJANSPAM
dispenser will dispense multiple art assets by me
https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/9799b13d6e90e0dd46856fda9b6dfb9b2495a473d542b563f4f41deff1953924
SCENTSMITH (assetic)
PEPESPAMART (dank)
THEASSHOLE (assetic)
TROJANSPAM (dank) -
- 13 December 2024 (5 messages)
-
Selling TEST
GENESISCARD
ETHEREUMCARD -
I am selling PEPEIT, I have the largest number of cards available https://tokenscan.io/asset/PEPEIT
-
TONIGHT! Rugpull Radio @ 10:30PM EST with Special Guest Patrick Byrne The Deep States worst Nightmare #Bitcoin as #Digital1776 and the Tech Stack for Humanity
Link is LIVE --> https://rumble.com/v5yiu9t-rugpull-radio-ep-101.htmlRugpull Radio Ep 101Thursdays at 10:30 PM ET Episode Archive: https://rumble.com/playlists/N6IFHf2pPm8 Rugpull Radio is a laid-back environment providing education on the most revolutionary invention humanity has ever cr
-
GMONEY🧢₿⚡️🍊🐸💊 (@GMONEYPEPE)
Bryne exposed Goldman's naked short tactics, then created tokenized RWA's to solve this on #Bitcoin L2 via @CounterpartyXCP which led to @petestrzok 's wife at the @SECGov "rugpulling" @PatrickByrne & getting him caught up in the Clinton Russia investigation... Catch the full interview last night - https://rumble.com/v5yiu9t-rugpull-radio-ep-101.html
-
- 14 December 2024 (14 messages)
-
-
How can we prevent price changes after a purchase at the original price?
-
The feature is beneficial, but it could provide more options for scammers, in my opinion.
-
Nope - it doesn't change anything from a buyer's perspective (compared to the current implementation)
It would only make it quicker and less expensive to change your dispenser price -
These 'new features' (fairmints, atomic swaps) are still in early alpha as far as I know,
and CP doesn't seem any more dead than last year! -
Also still waiting for the big demand for oracled dispensers 😜
And whatever happened to trusted dispensers linked to social media accounts, which were supposed to happen in 2022? -
another hot fix for the fork 😆
-
I’ve stopped using it, along with ppl I use it with since Adam left.
Waiting for stability before I return. -
It's annoying, but better have all those bugs / hotfixes now, while usage is low
-
-
nice catch anon
-
I was about to try a MPMA. Could I do it via the classic wallet?
-
Sure, but don't expect the assets moved by the classic wallet to be recognized by any other entities in the ecosystem (if my understanding is correct)
-
- 15 December 2024 (21 messages)
-
🙈🙈
-
Since you’re a 2.0 supporter and only tend to speak up in here negatively on classic, perhaps you should bring your suggestion up with the 2.0 team. Changing dispenser prices on an open dispenser opens up more avenues for scamming (changing price while payment is incoming), so prolly not something that will be changed in classic
-
As with many proposed improvements over the years that I wanted to make, there was not consensus to add them to the protocol, so trusted dispensers were not added to the protocol…. You can verify this if you look at the conversations on this topic on the forums.
Also, oracled dispensers require an oracle to constantly broadcast the price, which costs BTC. There was consensus to add oracled dispensers to counterparty, but not enough usage to sustain an Oracle service. I have solved this problem in xchain platform which I will release early next year. -
Alpha features should not be in production software until they are stable. Atomic swaps, fairmints, etc could all have been developed and tested on testnet and the bugs worked out BEFORE removing dispenser functionality and putting out untested software releases that crash nodes and threaten the stability of the network.
There has been more network downtime in the past year than ever before in the history of Counterparty, and as a result of this, usage is at an all time low.
Still waiting for this mass usage that these new features were supposed to bring…. Seems like the opposite has happened🤷🏻♂️
Not interested in pointless back and forth here…. It seems your questions here are mostly to troll, so disengaging.
Have a nice day👍🏻 -
The classic and 2.0 networks are entirely separate now and txs generated on classic are not seen on 2.0. You can do Mpmas sends on 2.0, however they are much more expensive now since 2.0 disabled P2SH encoding and now requires multisig encoding. Multisig encoding allows much less data per output, resulting in much larger and expensive transactions than p2sh encoding.
-
-
I made the suggestion on both forks, meaning I would like to see the change on both forks - again, you're assuming anything I post is trolling of some sort...
And no it wouldn't open cause more scamming if we just use a 5-block delay like for dispenser closes. -
Usage has been low but the drastic, "not tested properly changes" were implemented forcefully promising a great influx of newcomers. I think Jdog is referring to that and rightly so. A lot of us have been wondering, Where's the promised wonderland?
-
For which so much bad blood has been spilled already.
-
The constant fight,upgrades and what not have managed to alienate more people than it has integrated
-
-
Trump: Will do "some great things" in the field of encryption and become an industry leader
-
"Morning shows the day" and the Morning that has been on display till date atleast has been cringe.
-
Also, if I have to hazard a guess, is it because of Jdog building xchain platform that you guys are constantly attacking him, making troll channels just to try and break him down? Do you think xchain might be a serious competition to whatever you guys have in mind for counterparty 2.0? Otherwise I don't see any other reason for the constant attacks (making the atmosphere vitriolic for all of us), as the default setting in freewallet anyways is for Counterparty 2.0 . If anyone wants to use the classic , they will need to download fresh. Not as if Jdog has gone out of his way to trouble you guys. Infact, fm a lot of people's pount of view, it's the other way round.
-
-
I just created a dispenser for whoever is interested in collecting my 💚PEPEIT Series 34 card - Card 33
(Im the artist) https://tokenscan.io/tx/e872567c1280c3812f2d63f05f8c3ddffdb7f004a72c3426423a7295c41126af -
-
Tried to send some btc from freewallet but got a counterparty API error could it be because the address I was sending to is bc1?
-
-
Counterparty API Error:
“Unknown error” -
I remember having an issue sending btc to certain types of addresses at some point and think this is the same issue
- 16 December 2024 (26 messages)
-
-
-
This channel has had the same name for many years and it is for all people that use counterparty not a specific version… however there is a channel that is specifically for users that want to discuss only counterparty 2.0. Since the issue the user was referring to was a counterparty 2.0 specific issue and the counterparty 2.0 developers have left this channel and started their own channel where they want people to discuss counterparty 2.0, advising a user who’s having problems with counterparty 2.0 to ask the counterparty 2.0 developers and the channel they specifically created to talk about counterparty 2.0 makes the most sense.
I know you don’t see it but once again this seems like trolling … always being critical of what’s going on in this channel and advice offered to users🤷🏻♂️ -
To be clear, this channel is not just for classic, it is for all users of all versions of counterparty to discuss counterparty, and if I renamed this channel to counterparty classic or something else, it would simply be used to further attack me and further the narrative that this was a hostile channel takeover rather than the counterparty 2.0 devs rage quitting the channel when asked questions they didn’t want to answer.
The name of this channel has been the same for many years and there is no point in changing it now -
U sound vaccinated
-
Pretty sure the fork was quick to name it counterparty 2.0
-
-
hi😋
-
-
i see XCP on classic is 0.000075 , on V2 it is 0.00075 one zero less.
-
what a terrible answer to someone pointing an issue.
-
is this a classic chat lol? then i am confused too. i was thinking this is main counterparty group with the most of people.
-
And there is nobody trading on classic
-
how come 1.4k members has no actions on the chain?
-
seriously this is classic and not V2??
-
XCP price on classic is 10 times lower. i am not getting something
-
I think I missed something, where I can see v1 market and where is v2 market?
-
FreeWallet still defaults to counterparty 2.0, which is why the majority of the activity is still on counterparty 2.0…. Had I wanted to push all the activity to classic, I could’ve easily done so by switching the default in FreeWallet to classic…. However, I do not feel that is the appropriate thing to do as most people I think would expect to be on CP 2.0, and I don’t want to mislead or force ppl to my preferred version.
There is activity on classic however not much is being done to draw attention to classic at this time, hence low activity.
And also CP 2.0 has very little activity as well, certainly not the onslaught of new users that were promised with these new features that were supposed to drive a bunch of adoption.
This is not a classic or CP 2.0 room , this is a room for counterparty users to ask questions about the platform, as it has always been.
The counterparty 2.0 developers chose to rage quit this channel when asked questions they didn’t want to answer and started their own CP 2.0 channel with a couple hundred users in it now.
If you have a question about CP 2.0 I would encourage you to ask your question in their channel rather than here. If you have a question about functionality in counterparty, you can probably ask it here and get it answered as 98% of the functionality is the same between both CP 2.0 and classic.
Though I suspect based off of your comments that you’re not really here to ask questions and rather here to troll a bit 🤷🏻♂️ -
V1 = classic.tokenscan.io
V2 = Cp20.tokenscan.io -
ahhh i see now. admin
-
before it showed "reply"
-
I am j-dog, owner of the channel and core developer of cp for many years, and guy who runs classic, tokenscan, freewallet, etc…. I just choose to not be in here from my main account anymore 👍🏻
-
which one of my messages was trolling?
the one that i said "what a terrible answer to someone pointing an issue." or the one where someone said "U sound vaccinated" ? -
i thought everyone here is trolling
-
Thank you for letting know. 👌
-
If you are aware of the history here over the past couple months, you would know that Joe is a CP 2.0 supporter who specifically only speaks up to try to troll people in this channel and talk negatively about classic. Hence the responses to him that he is trolling, etc..
If his question was a genuine question, then yes, that would probably be less than ideal response, however, as we have dealt with months of trolling and nonsense from the CP 2.0 camp, the response seems appropriate, considering the source.
I’m off to do some coding. I hope you have a great day.😊 - 17 December 2024 (26 messages)
-
I have news.
RarePepeTrader will be back with a WTH 2.0 relaunch in 48 hours, with an announcement of a Boxing Day Auction setup for 22:00 UTC 26/12/2024. -
💋💋
-
Yeah still having issues just tried to send btc still getting counterparty api error
-
Could you confirm the current version of your wallet, and your server settings ?
-
As jdog mentioned this is a 2.0 issue since I downloaded the most recent one freewallet prompted me to download. Just venting I suppose and don’t feel like going in the 2.0 chat don’t want the drama
-
looks like another hot fix in the works
-
-
Crazy how much the price of XCP tanked due to the drama… and still no one wants to buy it on 2.0 👀
-
There is actually _some_ OTC activity but things have been really quiet lately
-
Do you have some to sell?
-
No I just check the XCP market daily for my health
-
Where i can sell this token
-
Max volume?
-
how to change the default to classic
-
wallet:
https://freewallet.io/classic
Counterparty Classic ledger:
https://classic.tokenscan.io/ 😉 -
thank you
-
do i have to uninstall the other one or can just leave it there
-
Why not install both? For your pleasure.
-
yea its installed i just ask cos i duno maybe it will conflict or keep it both open or might get confused
-
i dint understand before that the defualt was on 2.0
-
so i was using that one does it mean it doesnt exist in the classic one all the txn and the asset send and asset issuances txns?
-
correct... what you do on classic is not seen on 2.0 and vice versa except when buying from dispensers... best to use the one you prefer, or both if you prefer.
-
if both the btcs spent on txns will it spend on both
-
or if example since i got dispensers from 2021 2020 to maybe early this year
-
like if for example it sells will i get btc visible
-
you can setup dispensers on the same address on cp 2.0 and classic and if ppl buy from the dispenser using CP 2.0, then the dispenser on classic will dispense a token as well.... tho I would suggest just using separate wallets/addresses for each, just to keep things segmented/separate
- 18 December 2024 (14 messages)
-
the new devs vc seems really excited about stax 😆
-
-
-
Lolz a stax of deez 🥜
-
if you want to trigger a dispenser using just a normal BTC send... that only works on classic.. if you want to use CP 2.0, you gotta use a CP 2.0 compatible wallet (freewallet or horizon)... no more onboarding normies via dispensers in 2.0... they have to seek out and download a CP 2.0 wallet before being able to buy from a CP 2.0 dispenser.
-
gm
-
is exchange on freewallet out?
-
i cant conect
-
wtf is this
-
seems to be working fine here... https://i.gyazo.com/e0f1f37a027e2e6f7d18cf6585f526ec.png
-
maybe take the freewallet questions to the freewallet channel @freewallet_io
-
-
Is freewallet no longer compatible with CP classic?
-
If you want to use FW Classic you have to download the Freewallet classic version... It is marked on the website.... As for the most recent version of Freewallet, which is V 2.0.1, that version runs xcp 2.0 .... If you haven't already you should absolutely upgrade to the most recent version (v 2.0.1)
- 19 December 2024 (118 messages)
-
Good day all
-
Has anyone made a comparison chart of the benefits and downsides of all the relevant forks? It's confusing as all hell.
-
Is this desktop version?
-
Definitely no drawing happening lol
-
Depending on who you ask, expect a lot of bias. (I wish this post could be pinned, but I will probably be marked as a troll instead lol)
I don't know of any chart, but IMO, it's quite easy to decide just based on this:
* 'Classic' is an island with no active development, depends on one person/entity, and has no real users and no trades (out of 40,000 monthly unique xchain visitors)
* 'Current' has all of the userbase and infra providers (dex-trade, emblem vault, pepe.wtf, stamps, SoG, rarepepe etc)
'Current' also has lots of active development, gets new features and security updates -
-
It’s been goofy I tried it submit it a directory so all the the things lock token change JSON and send card burn cards !
Cost me like $8 and as I waited for the transactions to go threw I did the same with 3 Dogeparty cards and had everything done $1.5 then bought some
Other assets checked back and ended up closing my computer without the xcp stuff going threw yet lol 😂
Maybe today it’s done ??
Is that gonna speed up ? -
Seems like shipping stuff off to emblem is the new xcp market I feel icky about it all but I’m weird lol 😂
-
-
Well, it has been that way since 2021-2022 lol.
-
What are the trade-offs between those three in regards to dispensers?
-
-
This might answer
-
But only talks of classic and 2.0 not 'current'
-
Ha
-
-
So doesn’t the are you sending to a dispenser option work in free wallet ? Too
-
Who say that?
-
So great my guess at the start was 10.8 would be stable lol 😂 so funny
-
We are active working on both networks
-
-
-
-
@juangalt Also, for security reasons it's no longer possible to open a new dispenser on a fresh address in a single tx for security reasons. It now requires (at least) 2 tx: 1. Send asset+btc to new address 2. create dispenser
-
-
-
-
FreeWallet 2.0 does!
-
-
-
-
yep lol
-
-
I think they should all touch some grass; smoke some weed together and stop the bs!4
-
It’s like this then
-
A meet up lol 😂
-
Stamps support (and run) the current version too
-
For a year I have been trying to make a blockvault realese, to provide self-custody services to CP users but every month the blockchain goes down. and now CP is forked and i have to put two devs back to work to fix the bugs that came up with the fork.
-
ouch. what kind of bugs?
-
Right
-
All the nodes down
-
Malforned tx causing bugs
-
There three live versions though?
-
Nope, two forks, classic and current
-
-
Ohh. Is fork. The stamps enabled one or what's the deal there?
-
-
Both sides call the other the fork FYI
-
Probably best to invite one supporter of each fork :)
-
Each side calls the other the fork lol.
I think the term has lost its meaning. -
-
FAQ | Counterparty
Can I secure my XCP and Counterparty tokens in cold storage?
-
-
Brrr Guy in Official Counterparty Chat
As I stated yesterday, my intention is to put out a release in the next week or so which will add replay protection to counterparty classic. Replay protection is changing the prefix that is used in transactions on the platform. After this replay protection change is added to counterparty classic, then the ledgers and platforms will be entirely separate and transactions done on counterparty 2.0 will not effect counterparty classic and vice versa. Tokenscan.io will continue to default to showing counterparty 2.0 data, and FreeWallet will continue to use counterparty 2.0 via API calls to a counterparty 2.0 servers. Classic.tokenscan.io will continue to show counterparty classic data, and users will be able to interact with counterparty classic by downloading FreeWallet classic, an entirely separate wallet instance named something entirely separate. Tokenscan.io will be updated have a header at the top of every page indicating if users are viewing data from counterparty 2.0 or viewing data from counterparty…
-
I think they are a (minority) investor in Unspendable Labs, which is Adam's private company, but they haven't invested in Counterparty itself
-
true... however if we look at the history of how forks work.... CP 2.0 released new software (forked from the old software).. and CP 2.0 forked the ledger (new functionality which caused the ledgers to diverge).... so, ppl can finger point and call whatever they want the fork, but if you look at the facts, historically, the new verison of software and/or ledger are called the fork... and in this case, CP 2.0 is the new version in both cases 🤷️️️️️️
-
kinda wish that Adam and team would have just been transparent with VC funding and come forward and mentioned that a for-profit VC backed company is now in charge of development of a decentralized protocol.... would have put everything to bed... instead, choose to not disclose that for many months, then when I asked questions about it, tried to silence/censor me by booting me from the channel, then when that didn't work, rage-quit teh channel and started their own channel..... STILL could have come back at any time (he has never been banned or kicked from here)... and had over a month to add back the functionality that users were upset was lost (origin dispenser functionality).... ppl can think what they want, but the history speaks for itself.... plenty of opportunities to mend the divide and over a month to bring the ledger and communities back together... but they choose a different path, which is fine, but the constant trolling and personal attacks and creating entire rooms to just circle-jerk-hate-talk on myself and classic is pretty ridiculous
-
Anyway, of to do some dev work... working on a new release of freewallet (which works with cp 2.0)... yes, even tho still personally attacked and hated by cp 2.0 devs, still here for the community, still writing wallet for ppl to use, didn't force ppl to my preferred version of CP (classic).... Some things are more important than hate and trolling. Hope everyone has a nice day 🙂
-
stamps are on both classic and cp 2.0... no changes on classic to limit stamps in any way (no numeric fees, etc)
-
Happy to come on your podcast if you would like... fyi, here is the TLDR of the past 2 months
-
full history of chats is here... fun starts in about mid october when CP 2.0 activated, adam didn't disclose $630k VC funding in previous months to his private company UnspendableLabs, tried to kick me when I asked about it... failed cuz I am channel owner... etc.
CP 2.0 goes live (crashes)
https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_2.html#242496
I ask questions about 670k VC funding
https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_4.html#243902
Adam bans me and says I am lying...
https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_5.html#244178
Adam rage-quits Counterparty channel and creates Counterparty 2.0 channel
https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_6.html#244531
... month of trolling and drama...
I release Counterparty Classic with Replay protection after a month of waiting for Adam and team to restore the dispenser origin functionality
https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-11_7.html#252026
... trolling and drama continues
That is a quick TLDR of the state of things 😛Page 2 - Oct 2024 - Official Counterparty Chat - Telegram message archive.Official Counterparty Chat - - Telegram message archive.
-
-
@shawnleary @hodlencoinfield nice whitewash... too bad its already been logged to the history... If you dont like being questioned on why your doing sketchy stuff, maybe dont do it... If you want to use a new bot, cool, but name it something different, dont name it the same thing as the bot I run in order to try and mislead ppl that nothing has changed... IMO matching icon and name is shady behavior 🤷️️️️️️
https://j-dog.net/archive/RarePepeChat/2024-12_5.html#936330
Have a nice day. Done here for the day.Page 5 - Dec 2024 - Rare Pepe Chat - Telegram message archive.Rare Pepe Chat - - Telegram message archive.
-
Once again... some shady stuff going on in the background... truly sad how "respected" ppl here do sketchy stuff n whitewash 🤷️️️️️️
-
Think I got banned from another 2.0 group
-
Xcer claiming responsibility in dev chat
-
2.0 is the solana vax kamala bros
-
-
-
-
Trump dancing is legendary
-
Manginas
-
POV: You Are That Conservative Uncle at Thanksgiving
#Shorts #MichaelKnowles #TheMichaelKnowlesShow #News #Politics #DailyWire #Thanksgiving #Family #Conservative #DonaldTrump #Funny #Comedy #Skit #ComedySkit #...
-
This is @pappyG45 whipping out his Trump dancing card
-
Lonney is gone, so full of shizzz, leary was always a parasite. He is one of counterpartys fattest bloodsuckers
-
What a gross move to murder the oracle while no one was looking
-
Messages deleted also, strange
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
press f to pay respects
-
Fitting
-
-
Fffff
-
F
-
-
-
I rember i put Adam and some OG in a meeting with bitget.com (global bussines). And i promised them 30k to help and get listed on bitget.
-
But then i dont know how ended.
-
Bitget.com asked to prepare documentation and some things. But I think I risked my reputation with Bitget by introducing them. Because in the end we were not listed anywhere. Nobody took responsibility for that.
-
Lets rename counterparty as COUNTERDRAMA
-
-
nice, I was going to make one of those
-
3 years ago it became reality
-
-
-
-
Lets do some numerology
-
-
Tx index
1+9+1+4+4+9+4 = 32
Year 2022 (20+22) = 32 -
My math dont work. Jajaj
-
2 + 0 = stamp soy boy
-
I don't know you guys in person, but every once in a while every year I come into this chat and have a good time, CP is the blockchain for memes, dramas and weird guys.
-
This is the cheapest dispenser there are lots of scammer ones out there cause I gave this one away but if anyone doesnt have it drop your addy happy to send some. https://tokenscan.io/tx/13aba09d799b3ea39aac34688d13429c25f996a8c0adfd7e1f8f5d1a1326b2b5
-
Data on chain = Chad
-
Didn't realize how much kek was inolved with this card
-
jpegs on chain = noise
-
8 X 2's (date/time) , is that how many releases there was in 1 week of 2.0
-
Pick a side
-
Numerics with subassets = mangina
-
-
Close, was 9
-
must be for testing and learning only
-
- 20 December 2024 (97 messages)
-
Kek, gn all
-
-
Agreed
-
are scammer dispensers also a thing in aheeeem, the ooother fork?
-
Just people over pricing something I give away
-
Yup…. No functionality change to make them safer in 2.0 (the dangers are way overstated by that camp)…. All they did was make it cost 3txs to open a dispenser on a new address instead of 1tx…. And same in reverse to close… to setup new dispenser on empty/new address and then close n return assets to origin address is now 6txs instead of 2
And dispensers still “ruggable”… seller can wait for incoming payment then rush full payment to dispenser to front-run n buy from dispenser before other tx is confirmed…
Used to be able to just close dispenser with incoming dispense…. I added 5-block close delay logic last year to make it tougher for scammers to scam…. Now the only way to “rug” is how I mentioned, and it requires the scammer to buy out the dispenser instead of just closing it…. That is the last improvement made to dispensers (by me, last year)… all changes this year have lost functionality n made them more difficult h expensive to use…. All using the false claim of “security bug where someone could close other ppls dispensers”…. Something never possible (could only open new dispenser on empty address) -
I have to admit, the 'critical vulnerability' is more of a spam category at worse, as per the reading of their FAQ.
seems like a feature to me more than a bug. The real vulnerability is the RBF attack that you described. That would be something worth upgrading a protocol for.
But I guess we'll see what progress they make. -
Remember BCH fixed RBF. Ver wasn’t wrong.
-
OK let's stop misleading people! Dispensers are ruggable due to their core design and nothing can fix them. This was discussed ad nauseam and known for years.
The "5-block close delay" is close to useless - It can't prevent any scammers since front-running is still trivial to execute. I think this is the real reason why usage is so low. We need new (safer) ways to transact. All the rest is irrelevant. -
Your constant fear mongering over a useful feature the community has used for years will no longer be tolerated.
-
-
OK, I'm sorry if that was a little too harsh. I just wanted to bring some balance to stuff that was said above. I agree dispensers have been useful, but there seems to be no proper way to fix their issues (and many people have tried). However, for the time being it seems we don't have much better options available.
-
dispensers will go away when atomic swaps take over however there has been major bugs with atomic swaps and people losing their assets in utxo's so by all means let us know how that works out for you. the forked protocol is down every other day, devs rushing out new stuff causing people to lose assets etc.
-
-
Yeah... preventing people from being able to immediately close the dispenser, and making it so scammers have to wait 50 minutes before a dispenser closes, and making it so that they have to buy the dispenser out (use the same amount of BTC as the person buying from the dispenser) totally doesnt add any more protections (sarcasm)... and you wonder why ppl here say your trolling... You may disagree with dispensers, but saying that improvements the community requested, which solved a problem, and made it more difficult and expensive for scammers to try and "rug" dispenser as "useless" is trolling.
-
the proper way to fix them would have been to leave dispensers alone and focus on atomic swaps... building a viable replacement BEFORE breaking what was working and making them more expensive and harder to use (6 txs to open and close instead of 2).... but, the core devs (who recently returned to the community after 10+ years, and who have very little understanding or connection to the community here for the past 10 years) feel that they can force their viewpoints and changes into CP.... as I said many times, I'm all for improvements, but you don't break stuff before alternatives are there to replace them.... And I gave them over a month to rectify the situation... I didn't cause the fork, but best believe that i'm perfectly happy to keep a "community driven" version of CP running.... throwing all the CIPs and hard work done over the 10 years while they were gone, and talking shit on dispensers, something that John Villar and I came up with to solve a problem with using BTC on the dex, simply because they dont think the model is perfect, is ridiculous.
-
Anyway... enough drama for the day... I tend to agree with Gmoney and feel that you should be muted if you continue to troll... your viewpoint has been made abundantly clear... tho I wont mute you, will let someone else do that if/when they feel it is necessary.
-
-
-
-
Counterwallet is finally back up and working... Javier and I proposed 3 different fixes over a year ago to get counterblock parsing again, exactly 1 week after it was broken.... those 3 proposals were ignored and shit-canned by Adam and team... and counterwallet was deprecated (IMO to force ppl to their new wallet Horizon)..... Anyway, counterparty classic has counterwallet working again, and will be doing announcement soon 🙂
-
-
-
-
-
Joe has been warned if he continues he will be muted. He's probably a sock anyway only in 3 groups no pepe chats etc so we are probably just arguing with another stamp shill.
-
holy hseeeet this is amazing! weird the fork devs wont approve the changes to make the wallet work probably cause their degen masters pushing stax dont want working tools for the community
-
Cool
-
I don’t think I’ve ever used this wallet. Only freewallet and rarepepewallet in all my years. Is there an advantage to this wallet over others or is it just providing more options for users?
-
I bet you we could double spend bcash if we really tried. RBF solves a fundamental blockchain problem. specially when your blockchain has a fraction of the hashing power available to the world.
-
not surprising you would support that clown
-
-
-
to your credit though, this is the first I hear of BCH fixing RBF, so curious what you mean.
-
it was the first counterparty wallet (written by co-founder Robby), and works on mobile... and supported a betting interface... which was awesome, tho saw little usage since no more oracles to bet on.... i'd give it a try when it comes back up 🙂
-
BCH removed RBF and segwit at the fork, making BCH closer to the original whitepaper version.
-
I support the truth
-
BCH is irrelevant mate. They lost the war by going on in on a skirmish.
-
-
History will repeat
Know your history -
-
I've literally been writing and interviewing and talking about the history for a decade.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
lots of fun going on over on dogeparty.... raredogedirectory.com is closing in the next 11 days after 3 years... so, lots of last minute awesome art being made 🙂
-
dogeparty running smooth on dispensers weird how no one is complaining over there about it
-
Please do not tell Adam and his friends behind Unspentable Labs) Dispensers must stay there.
-
Have no fear, dogeparty was rebooted by Javier and myself 3 years ago, so it has always been, and will remain, community driven 🙂