• 01 December 2024 (12 messages)
  • @honkhonnk #252165 01:05 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    I’ll ask same question here as I did in other chat. What’s the plan for growing xcp value? Using dispensers takes away from xcp value obviously so keeping them isn’t great for long term growth in my opinion. Adam’s plan for swaps would also take away from xcp value if I understand it correctly. Thoughts?
  • @honkhonnk #252166 01:07 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    Same could be said for emblem vaults. Never used and never will. We should incentivize playing on the dex on our side. If people want the frogs they will come.
  • @honkhonnk #252167 01:20 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    Are there any examples of a successful protocol that has a token that is basically dead or unused within crypto?
  • @7172336145 #252168 03:56 AM, 01 Dec 2024
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  • Its used all the time, as Counterparty's native currency

    https://tokenscan.io/orders
  • @nutildah #252170 04:16 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    Check the Orders tab, over 100 XCP orders in the last 2 days:

    https://tokenscan.io/asset/XCP
  • That’s not that much plus half the orders or more are likely by the same 2 or 3 people. My point is that the token value is not great relatively speaking for such low supply. It’s not widely used and the bulk of sales happen on other platforms using ETH or via dispensers with BTC. Those all take value away from the CP and XCP.
  • @nutildah #252172 04:27 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    You said its "basically dead or unused", and that's not true
  • @honkhonnk #252173 04:27 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    Now that the protocol is being tuned up and actively developed the focus should be on driving traffic to using xcp not away from it
  • There’s like a few hundred people that may use it throughout the year. That’s not great
  • @nutildah #252175 04:29 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    Its a true utility token. The nature of the Counterparty burn makes it pretty much un-pumpable. I agree it would be good to encourage more people to use it for DEX trades.
  • @honkhonnk #252176 04:32 AM, 01 Dec 2024
    If the protocol becomes more user friendly with tools for the general person to use easily then xcp could organically grow in value and not have to worry about being pumped on an exchange. If we close the off ramps over time and it’s easy for more people to transact on CP via dex, that’s the way to have a lasting success and not short term pumps by traders.
  • 02 December 2024 (17 messages)
  • 24 hours later and no feedback. Nice.
  • I dont see your question asked in the "other" chat, and honestly, its not like the ppl in this chat are here to serve you and answer your questions and pump CP.... CP has existed and grown its userbase by simply having features that the community uses, and having tons of historical projects on it.... This "How do we pump XCP and grow usage" question has been asked many times over the 10+ years of history... if you want an answer, perhaps try searching the chat history using keywords vs expecting answers spoon fed to ya by the community... no offense meant, but seems like kinda trollish behavior... the only things I see you saying in the CP 2.0 channel are anti-freewallet and in support of 2.0 (which is fine)... but, sure seems like your behavior is a bit like a troll... ask question, get answers, dont like answers, so say you got no feedback... seems kinda trollish 🤷️️️️️️
  • @BrrrGuy #252185 02:31 AM, 02 Dec 2024
    Seems like your in support of 2.0, and them adding new features to their platform and integrating XCP into the platform usage more... so maybe best to ask your question in that channel and let the 200 or so ppl in there answer 🤷️️️️️️
  • theres a lot more than a few hundred people that use counterparty... https://i.gyazo.com/5f80ae751187555bc56f85c014d0b777.png
  • @BrrrGuy #252187 02:35 AM, 02 Dec 2024
  • You did get feedback. Why lie about it? Sometimes you need to be the change you want to see in the world. So have at it, nobody is stopping you.
  • @BrrrGuy #252190 03:06 AM, 02 Dec 2024
    ahh... makes much more sense now... he meant the "troll" group purposely created to troll this group... Thanks for making your intentions clear Whatever 😛
  • @BrrrGuy #252191 03:06 AM, 02 Dec 2024
    feel free to browse the vitrol, hatred, and trolling in that channel without having to join via the chat logs 🙂 https://j-dog.net/archive/CounterpartyOriginalClassic/
    Page 1 - Dec 2024 - Counterparty Original Classic Chat - Telegram message archive.

    Counterparty Original Classic - - Telegram message archive.

  • Well you know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, or something... When trolls have to resort to these kind of tactics, it means they know they've lost the argument, can't debate in good faith.
  • @Design_OneForAll #252196 04:25 PM, 02 Dec 2024
    Does anyone know what this is? Hi friends
  • a scam
  • BANKXCP is yet another token some scammers try to use to trick ppl into stealing their funds.

    The scam goes like this...

    1. Setup website with fake counterwallet login page

    2. Create scam token and token supply and set description to point people to fake counterwallet page

    3. Send scam token to a bunch of wallets (usually large XCP holders, tho others have been targeted too)

    4. Wait for people to follow token link to fake counterwallet login site and login using their 12-word passphrase

    5. Steal people's funds from their wallet with their newly stolen 12-word passphrase.

    These scammers been at it for years... whenever I detect one of these scammers, I add it to a special blacklist on tokenscan.io where the token info is just not displayed to anyone... As this is the simplest way to protect people from following the link to the fake counterwallet site... if ppl dont see the scammer token and link, they won't be falling for the scam.

    Here is a list of some of the tokens that have used this scam over the years to try and trick ppl and steal their 12-word passphrase :

    BONUSBTC, BONUSXCP, COUNTEREVENT, COVALCC, BACONXCP, BITTENSOR, BNSXCP, BARXCP, CLAIMXCP, BITGETTOKEN, BANKXCP, BANKMOOD, BLOCKMOOD, BUSDXCP, BUCKETEVENT, BUCKETXCP, HERBSTERS
  • @Design_OneForAll #252200 07:12 PM, 02 Dec 2024
    Thanks for the information, friend @BrrrGuy
  • 03 December 2024 (14 messages)
  • 👍
  • @pappyG45 #252203 05:02 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    looks like the fork is doing great 😆
  • @BrrrGuy #252204 05:03 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    tokenscan.io will be down for a few minutes as I cleanup some mysql stuff (slave/master)... back in a few 🙂
  • @pappyG45 #252205 05:05 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    congrats on replay protection! let the games begin
  • @BrrrGuy #252206 05:09 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    smaller tx sizes now too... XCP (3 char) vs CNTRPRTY (8 char) 🙂
  • @BrrrGuy #252207 05:10 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    got taproot support ready to go as well (we had it ready in December of last year... but the PR was never merged in)... so, will do some testing and then add support for that in the next release.... which will make for even cheaper txs and ability to encode way larger amounts of data (p2tr > multisig)
  • @pappyG45 #252208 05:11 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    Thank you for extensive testing and not releasing new software before its ready
  • Jdog I assume you are the dev and maintainer for xcp classic. Will you merge your efforts from xchain platform into xcp classic? Also are you ever going to change your name back to Jdog?
  • @kekedouy #252210 07:34 AM, 03 Dec 2024
    A good day starts with communication
  • XChain platform is what I am primarily focused on.... I will maintain Counterparty Classic and make updates when necessary or when the community wants changes and comes to consensus... but, my Primary focus is on XChain platform, a completely independent multi-chain platform that will launch in early 2025. I have no plans to return to this channel as J-Dog at this time.. perhaps some day in the future. I made great efforts 9 months ago to remove "Counterparty" drama from my J-Dog telegram channels and sphere of influcence.... so, I have BrrrGuy account for when I decide I want to tune into Counterparty related issues, but I dont want it to be as ingrained in my daily life as it has been for the past 10 years.... I'm still here, still running stuff and here for the community... but, I can't make counterparty as much of my life as I have in the past.... to most ppl, it will prolly look the same, but as I said, my primary focus is on XChain platform and Dankest, LLC.
  • sent you a DM.
  • Taproot support is huge! - when MCAT so we can do a bunch of xcp functions for cheaper :)
  • @davesta #252224 10:33 PM, 03 Dec 2024
    Just wrote about a historical Counterparty gem by the legendary Koji Higashi.

    If you aren't aware of CNPCOIN and the history of premium written content backed by a Counterparty token from 2014, you should give this a read:

    https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1864074766975373485
  • 04 December 2024 (11 messages)
  • You have all the best info !! I would love to sit down and have you talk at me about this stuff for 10-15 hours haha !! 😂 so great
  • Thank JPJ for that awesome idea. Nice job scooping up the prefix.
  • Live?
  • @BrrrGuy #252228 10:25 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    Yes, Counterparty 2.0 and Counterparty classic are permanently severed as of block 873000. Now you can interact with counterparty 2.0 ledger by continuing to use FreeWallet or other CP wallets, or use Counterparty Classic by downloading freewallet.io/classic... also will spin up a counterwallet instance for classic in another day or two
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252229 10:53 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    Well I guess 2.0 Forkaround.findout 😂
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252230 10:55 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    If I'm still on 9.6 am I on classic, or best download fresh
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252231 10:57 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    Haven't updated for a while kek
  • update to most recent version to use xcp 2.0 - most recent version is 2.0.1 - lots of stuff has changed - better fee estimations shown now in sat/vb, server settings have changed, added support for open fairmints etc
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252233 11:05 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    What if I want to use classic?
  • @camzjamz #252234 11:34 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    Jdog said you have to download the counterparty classic freewallet about 5 posts above
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252235 11:36 PM, 04 Dec 2024
    Yes I read, but is that assuming I have updated to 2.0, my question was specific about 4 posts above
  • 05 December 2024 (60 messages)
  • You have to get freewallet classic to use classic is believe
  • @LongbranchBear #252238 12:35 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    9.6 is counterparty
  • @LongbranchBear #252239 12:35 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    I'm probably wrong
  • @Dazer4 ↶ Reply to #252230 #252240 12:47 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    I downloaded classic, and worked for the classic ledger.
    My other wallet was interacting with counterparty
  • Seems accurate
  • It is .... but dispensers have been changed at a protocol level for 2.0 so best to use most recent version as to not make any mistakes
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252243 03:11 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    So best to update to latest version, and download classic if one wants to?
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252244 03:12 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Bitcoin hits over 100k
  • @PepeTheFrog #252248 03:13 AM, 05 Dec 2024
  • @Dazer4 ↶ Reply to #252243 #252249 03:15 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    That’s what I did.
    I do have different balances though.

    I bought a couple of cards on counterparty that won’t show up on my classic version.

    As well as a couple of tokens I minted. That won’t show up on both unless you create the token again
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252250 03:16 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Yes, they are separate now
  • @Dazer4 #252251 03:16 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Yes
  • @Dazer4 #252252 03:17 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Thats what I did 👍
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252253 03:17 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Cheers for Intel
  • @Bab_bhai #252257 07:33 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Helo
  • @Bab_bhai #252259 07:34 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Please subscribe to my Yt buildyourmind78 guys ❤️
  • do you offer some unique insights into the world of Counterparty?
  • Yeah a Motivation
  • @Bab_bhai #252262 07:36 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Motivation we all need 🔥
  • Please guys 😄
  • What's your stance on Counterparty Classic vs. Counterparty 2.0?
  • Counterparty 2.0 is generally favored over Counterparty Classic for its enhanced features,and modern architecture, but the choice depends on user preference.
  • Cmon Babu, that's not an opinion, it sounds like something you pasted from ChatGPT
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252269 10:55 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Sounds like trying to search for an individual rare on opensea
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252270 10:56 AM, 05 Dec 2024
    Only those who know how will find the sauce
  • Just tried, after years yes this is still the same, used to be easy
  • How many of those BTC were yours?
  • @nutildah #252274 12:04 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Yes, I get it, competing against Solana shittokens is difficult. Trust me I know 😅

    Which $XCP ticker do you think will still be here next year though?
  • I was honestly just curious
  • @nutildah #252281 12:29 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    You didn't answer either of my questions. But to answer yours, it really depends on a lot of factors. Obviously not to the same magnitude as in 2014, for obvious reasons. But possibly. Depends on what kind of perceived value they are getting in return.

    I think Counterparty was doing just fine before the recent drama. Honestly I have never given a fuck if XCP pumps or not.
  • @Jpcryptos #252283 12:32 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    What is new?
  • this was my 2nd question
  • this one
  • @nutildah #252290 12:36 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Yes, which token will the $XCP ticker mostly apply to next year?
  • @nutildah #252291 12:37 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    For a lot of us that have been around for years (in my case a decade+), the division is truly disheartening. While the old devs have introduced some cool new features, attempted to streamline node-running & so forth, the end goal appears to be attracting some of the Ordinals/BRC20/Runes degens, which lets face it, specialize in the manufacture, sales & marketing of dung. Not entirely dissimilar to Solana.

    I gave up hoping XCP would pump a long time ago and just learned to accept it for what it was: a true utility token.
  • Smack my big ticker
  • @nutildah #252301 12:41 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    I appreciate Counterparty for its culture more than anything else, what it has given rise to, and how it helped innovate countless features of other blockchains. Anybody who participated in putting their art on a Counterparty token should be proud of that.
  • @nutildah #252302 12:42 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Anybody who innovated with Counterparty, should be proud of that. If you want the quick 100x then yeah you'll have to go to pump.fun for that, or look at whatever horseshit Casey Rodamor or Leonidas is currently shilling.
  • @xoblort #252362 01:07 PM, 05 Dec 2024
  • @xoblort #252368 01:08 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    attack ideas not people. a ticker in german is a drugdealer 😌/
  • @Jpcryptos #252369 01:08 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Q pasa putos, dejen de pelearse.
  • @joewang3 #252371 01:09 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    insults not tolerated here can a mod please ban the trolls
  • @Jpcryptos #252374 01:10 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    This chat is always on fire.
  • @Jpcryptos #252377 01:11 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    U need to banned from the toiletw
  • @joewang3 #252378 01:11 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    i honestly think this isn't the right place anymore to get the latest news on counterparty... no substance, just trolling
  • @joewang3 #252379 01:12 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    better discussions on twitter
  • @Jpcryptos #252384 01:14 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Me and Doge are the same account.
  • @Jpcryptos #252387 01:16 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Nice day brother
  • Are you same xoblort from Poloniex? Brings back some trollbox memories.
  • @nutildah #252395 01:34 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    They actually had a few different Counterparty tokens listed there for a while, LTBCoin and FLDC immediately come to mind. They even listed XDP for a while.
  • Stay on topic or you are out
  • @pappyG45 #252397 01:36 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Looks like Stack has a new sock account
  • Was XDP ever listed on Poloniex? I remember earning FLDC and trading on Poloniex, which was my first centralized exchange. However, I think I somehow missed XDP there.
  • Yes, they are still the largest holders of XDP. I hope they forgot their seed phrase TBH.
  • Oh , wow .... That means a lot .
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #252402 02:16 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    Now I have the same hope )
  • @nutildah #252403 02:17 PM, 05 Dec 2024
    This is their address:

    https://dogeparty.tokenscan.io/address/DSmxY9DMojuu7TL7xd6yjKSA7ziPfhyZcq

    16.5% of all XDP
  • 07 December 2024 (2 messages)
  • How you doing Mia?
  • @tschoerv #252418 11:15 PM, 07 Dec 2024
    I want to burn a token using horizon or rpw?
  • 08 December 2024 (45 messages)
  • @pappyG45 #252419 12:57 AM, 08 Dec 2024
    BREAKING: U.S. TREASURY REPORT SAYS "TOKENIZATION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO UNLOCK THE BENEFITS OF PROGRAMMABLE, INTEROPERABLE LEDGERS TO A WIDER ARRAY OF LEGACY FINANCIAL ASSETS"

    FROGS TO DESTROY THEM? 🤔

    https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/221/CombinedChargesforArchivesQ42024.pdf
  • I agree.
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #252435 03:11 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    I see that someone is trying to give links to marketers and scammers in this group, which is making it less trustworthy. Probably the aims of those , who give the links to ppl with japan language
  • Cool story bro
  • Okay, I might be a bit paranoid. ;)
  • @XCERXCP #252442 04:12 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Glad to see all the counterparty classic supporters using or even trying it out after J put all those hours and money in
  • @XCERXCP #252443 04:12 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    You guys sit here and cheer it on and can’t even try it out lmao
  • @XCERXCP #252444 04:13 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Fucking fake fucking friends you are
  • @PPCFTW1 #252445 04:14 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    whats with all the japanese
  • i missed all the drama stuff.
    dunno what happened but saw in wallet chat jdgos stuff still working and what not
  • @XCERXCP #252447 04:18 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    This place used to be my spot daily, I loved it, and you fucking classic support losers fucked it up

    J used to by my boy, this place used to be my daily look forward to, now I fucking hate it.

    Fuck you guys who supported classic. Peace.
  • Xcer, you know full well the content policy in here as you had administrator powers for many years before you started berating people based off their wallet size and history and telling people who had differing opinions than you that their opinion didnt matter. It is clear that there are 2 versions of CP, and that this channel is for whomever wants to be here, but you need to engage respectfully or else you will be muted. If you hate this channel and your only purpose here is to troll and spew hatred, then I encourage you to leave this channel of your own accord. Please consider this your warning. I dont want to have to mute you here.
  • yup, freewallet still works as it always has, and is on the CP 2.0 version, as I believe that is what most users would expect to interact with, and I have no intention of misleading users or pushing them to use a version of CP that they are not wanting to use... so FreeWallet works on Counterparty 2.0, as does tokenscan.io... the only difference is that a bunch of drama happened in the past couple months, stuff was broken, tempers flared and some ppl rage quit this channel, and refused to re-enable features that many in the community wanted reinstated... and now there are 2 ledgers... Feel free to ignore the drama and just carry on using CP as you always have.. 99% of it still works the same (except dispensers are more expensive and more difficult to manage now)... other than that, just drama and noise you can ignore... or dig into.. up to you 🙂
  • coping hard af to boot licking tyants
  • hows that 2.0 fork working for ya? lost funds bugs and a bunch of chinese pump n dump bots? those are your masters now
  • @pappyG45 #252453 05:29 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    a bunch of degen shitcoiners
  • @pappyG45 #252454 05:49 PM, 08 Dec 2024
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  • @Niftyboss1 #252455 07:17 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Currently available OTC: 800 XCP @ 8800 sats (0.0704 BTC total)

    Just DM for more info
  • It's fascinating how your perspective is shaped by what is comfortable for you to understand. However, the truth is that this perspective is just an illusion. We are quite different, and these differences reveal many true aspects of ourselves. Within these words, there are numerous thoughts to uncover between the lines. I usually don’t express myself in this way when I criticize others without fully understanding their stance. But that seems acceptable in the online context. I want to preserve something that has always existed, though I recognize that it is now in the past. I do not support any particular side and have no personal interest in any of those sides. But come on—help me understand who actually holds power nowadays! ;)
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #252457 07:35 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Maybe bad advertising by trying to moke ppl is even good in some heads , dunno .
  • classic or 2.0?
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252459 07:47 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Nice to see anyone else can say classic or 2.0
  • 3.0.... kek
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252462 07:47 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    In the rare chat, do as I say but not as I do
  • Yep Joe banned me for the exact same comment
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #252464 07:48 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    4.20 version coming...
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252465 07:48 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    And I got permo muted for saying "banned for this? "
  • @pappyG45 #252466 07:49 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    cucks
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252467 07:49 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Now they all discussing it
  • @pappyG45 #252468 07:49 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    send screenshots
  • @pappyG45 #252469 07:50 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Shawn gave me permo axe for muting him in a Trump chat group loool
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252470 07:54 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Official 1.0 or 2.0? 🤣
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252472 07:54 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Community consensus is the MOST important thing unless you fork
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252473 07:54 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Hilarious we hear community consensus, while 99% of the community didn’t want a fork lmao
  • @pappyG45 #252474 07:55 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Xcer mad at the wrong people
  • @pappyG45 #252475 07:55 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    doesnt even realize
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252476 07:56 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Well they free to discuss fork in rare chat, we can't say 3 words each
  • @pappyG45 #252478 08:05 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    btw for those that are banned from the rare pepe chat I created this new one that people can use - @rarepepeproject
  • 2.0
  • @joewang3 #252480 09:06 PM, 08 Dec 2024
    Are there usage stats available for Classic?
  • yup 3.0... and they say I'm creating FUD and misleading ppl... oy vey... also, I find it interesting how the narrative is ever shifting... a few weeks ago it was "there is only one Counterparty... no 2.0 or classic"... now all of a sudden mentions of 3.0... seems like all the ppl accusing me of FUD and whatnot would want to clarify that "There is only one CP"... but seems now they are the ones spreading division and confusion by mentioning 3.0.... I've honestly given up on trying to figure out ppls motivations at this point... seems like many ppl talk in circles and change their opinions daily... 2 weeks ago Xcer was "I like Jdog and Gmoney no matter what they say or attack"... today it seems to be "J used to by my boy...." and "Fuck you guys who supported classic."... the narrative change and "I like you" to "I hate you" switches are headspinning.... guess i'm glad I dont base my opinion on those around me, and stick to my values, regardless of who agrees or disagrees with them 🤷️️️️️️
  • 09 December 2024 (47 messages)
  • @joewang3 #252486 06:51 AM, 09 Dec 2024
    Meanwhile people are making pretty cool stuff
    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2749
    DEX Market Makers · Issue #2749 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core

    I had a thought recently and have been trying to think it through figured I would drop it here for discussion. Proper AMM's will require quite a bit of new logic, testing and new database table...

  • @Tap912 #252502 10:25 AM, 09 Dec 2024
    What, 2.7 TRX, wow
  • I need to hear it a few more times before I believe it
  • 2.7TRX for president ⚡️
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252516 12:19 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    6.9TRX
  • @crypto_king35790 #252518 12:33 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Question how can I move some Bitcoin from my counterparty wallet to cashapp.? Is that possible?
  • Yeah if ur Cash App provides you with a BTC deposit address
  • Yeah, there are definitely interesting proposals that have happened over the years… the truly interesting thing in this case, however is that the idea is proposed and then immediately approved by Adam and slated for being added to the protocol without any real community discussion…. Further emphasizing that the protocol is centralized and it really comes down to the opinion of Adam to determine what is best for counterparty 2.0 without any real community discussion or feedback.

    This is one of the reasons why counterparty was slow to progress over the years because the community was consulted and pretty much every change the community needed to see as an improvement and come to consensus on…. we could’ve had AML/KYC compliant token functionality (optional), which would’ve on onboarded a lot of companies and businesses a number of years ago. Had the community been able to come to consensus on adding features such as a list… yet no consensus, so the feature was not added.

    Seems like now as long as Adam likes your proposal, it’s immediately approved of and added to the protocol🤷🏻‍♂️

    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2749#issuecomment-2528310035
    DEX Market Makers · Issue #2749 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core

    I had a thought recently and have been trying to think it through figured I would drop it here for discussion. Proper AMM's will require quite a bit of new logic, testing and new database table...

  • @joewang3 #252528 03:55 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Consensus doesn't mean much in a loose community such as Counterparty.
    It's one of those vague terms that can be bended to mean anything!
  • @BrrrGuy #252532 04:03 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    And... once again, Asking valid questions about guidelines for moving an idea from an idea into a protocol change are censored and marked a "off-topic".... Thou shalt not question Adam's infinite wisdom... such a sad state of affairs to mute, censor, and stiffle people from being able to ask valid questions of the developers of a supposedly "community driven" project 🤷️️️️️️
  • May not mean much to you, but to some of us, it matters a bunch..... There is a reason why I didn't force changes into CP... got lots of stuff I would have loved to add, but dont feel forcing things in over community consensus was the right path forward... apparently Adam and the CP 2.0 team feel differently..... also, stil waiting on this mass user onboarding that was supposed to happen with these new features... seems pretty dead man 🤷️️️️️️
  • @BrrrGuy #252538 04:28 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Also... FYI... CP 2.0 down once again... another week, another network crashing bug... wondering how long it will be before they notice and issue yet another emergency hotfix...
  • @BrrrGuy #252540 04:29 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Dont think they have noticed yet... no conversation in their CP 2.0 channel yet... last comment is adam censoring/removing comments from Stack...
  • @BrrrGuy #252542 04:32 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    I put warning up on tokenscan.io to let ppl know cp 2.0 network is down and not to use dispensers until its back up, etc.
  • @ifyoubuildit #252545 04:48 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    anyone know if dextrade is on 2.0 or classic?
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252546 04:54 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    2.0... so expect them to be down for another couple days and disable withdraws, as they do everytime they have any issues with CP 2.0
  • @joewang3 #252547 04:55 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    it's simple: everyone is on 2.0, see list here: https://docs.counterparty.io/docs/basics/faq/

    tokenscan runs both 2.0 and classic
    FAQ | Counterparty

    Can I secure my XCP and Counterparty tokens in cold storage?

  • "Everyone"... yep, that is adams interpretation of the fork and pushing his narrative... also interesting that he scrubbed the "Projects" list from the site and only seems to care about listing the marketplaces and explorers.... no real care for the history of projects built on the platfom for the past 10 years.
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252549 05:06 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Disengaging now... got work to do... Have a great day 🙂
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252550 05:07 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Funny how whenever CP 2.0 has issues and the network is down... the attack dogs come out to try and spin the narrative and distract from the fact that CP 2.0 is down and make it all about "everyone is on CP 2.0"... comical
  • @joewang3 #252553 05:50 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    LOL I didn't know I would have to define what 'everyone' means
  • @joewang3 #252554 05:51 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    And no, no-one is attacking you mate
    Have a great day too
  • There is a whole channel dedicated to gangstalking him bruv
  • @LongbranchBear #252556 05:52 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    They call it their cock
  • @LongbranchBear #252558 05:52 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Its nuts!
  • @LongbranchBear #252559 05:52 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    Kek
  • @LongbranchBear #252560 05:52 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    See what I did there?
  • @gssvv #252565 06:13 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    hey, it seems there’s a problem with node. Mine was running fine for a month and now it’s failing. Using the latest version (v10.7.3)

    Full error message.
    https://pastebin.com/raw/ASpx3D20
  • @gssvv #252566 06:14 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    @Hal9000CGbot not sure who should be tagged here, thinking it might be not just me with that issue
  • This message by Adam says that the team has identified the root cause and they now cutting a hotfix;

    https://t.me/counterpartygeneral/4175
    Adam in Counterparty

    yup we have a PR with the fix in it: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/pull/2813 Enhanced Sends and MPMA transactions weren't setting the msg_index correctly, and when someone tried to do a UTXO move in the same Bitcoin transaction as an Enhanced Send, it caused the main node process to fail a tx uniqueness sanity check

  • @gssvv ↶ Reply to #252567 #252568 06:21 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    thanks, didn’t now there’s another chat 🙏
  • Are you running some public business or service, or is it just your private node? Just curious!
  • Yup... Adam (the core developer of cp 2.0) rage-quit the channel after being asked some questions he didn't like and started a new channel 🤷️️️️️️
  • @gssvv ↶ Reply to #252569 #252571 06:25 PM, 09 Dec 2024
    I have a small community of enthusiasts that I build stuff for. We minted PEPEFAIR when it launched so now I’m keeping that node
  • That breaks Joe's heart, he was hoping to instigate
  • 10 December 2024 (7 messages)
  • @Royal19999 #252593 11:50 AM, 10 Dec 2024
    GROGGO
  • @crypto_king35790 #252594 01:38 PM, 10 Dec 2024
    Question, I was able to send bitcoin to my cashapp yesterday so I did a test and it went Thur fast any easy. When I tried to move the rest it wont let me and the wheel just spawn and timed out. Why won't it let me send again? From my counterparty wallet is any one else have this problem?
  • @MachineUser #252600 03:15 PM, 10 Dec 2024
    Try cash.app/help
  • @crypto_king35790 #252601 03:34 PM, 10 Dec 2024
    Its not cashapp it counterparty wont send
  • Close and reopen
  • @crypto_king35790 #252604 03:56 PM, 10 Dec 2024
    Love your hat tried that.
  • @MachineUser #252606 04:21 PM, 10 Dec 2024
    Which wallet?
  • 11 December 2024 (3 messages)
  • @Diogozas #252617 02:54 PM, 11 Dec 2024
    - Selling Pepecash in bulk,
    - Can Trade Rare Pepes for BTC or other Rare Pepes I don't have.
    - Might also buy whole wallets with RP and SoGs.
    🐸
  • @zokukek #252622 06:47 PM, 11 Dec 2024
    the beuty of numbers and art
  • @L_vs_D #252626 07:35 PM, 11 Dec 2024
  • 12 December 2024 (5 messages)
  • @L_vs_D ↶ Reply to #252629 #252630 11:49 AM, 12 Dec 2024
    Sure, thanks
  • @OoakosiMo #252634 12:25 PM, 12 Dec 2024
    https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/SOLITAIRE

    SOLITAIRE

    SUPPLY 100
    HOLDERS 44

    dispenser:
    https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/bc1ad28666b291deec795807304f8d7bf7a5aa7dde8b89541ad23d5df5aed132

    *UNFRAMED VERSION OF SOLITAIREART Bitcorn Directory
  • @OoakosiMo #252637 12:36 PM, 12 Dec 2024
    TROJANSPAM (Dank Directory)
    https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/TROJANSPAM

    dispenser will dispense multiple art assets by me
    https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/9799b13d6e90e0dd46856fda9b6dfb9b2495a473d542b563f4f41deff1953924

    SCENTSMITH (assetic)
    PEPESPAMART (dank)
    THEASSHOLE (assetic)
    TROJANSPAM (dank)
  • 13 December 2024 (5 messages)
  • @Adamantian #252654 01:17 AM, 13 Dec 2024
    Selling TEST
    GENESISCARD
    ETHEREUMCARD
  • @zuriel_rc #252656 02:56 AM, 13 Dec 2024
    I am selling PEPEIT, I have the largest number of cards available https://tokenscan.io/asset/PEPEIT
  • @pappyG45 #252657 03:18 AM, 13 Dec 2024
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  • @pappyG45 #252658 04:43 PM, 13 Dec 2024
    GMONEY🧢₿⚡️🍊🐸💊 (@GMONEYPEPE)

    Bryne exposed Goldman's naked short tactics, then created tokenized RWA's to solve this on #Bitcoin L2 via @CounterpartyXCP which led to @petestrzok 's wife at the @SECGov "rugpulling" @PatrickByrne & getting him caught up in the Clinton Russia investigation... Catch the full interview last night - https://rumble.com/v5yiu9t-rugpull-radio-ep-101.html

  • @pappyG45 #252659 04:43 PM, 13 Dec 2024
    this snipit tells the story
  • 14 December 2024 (14 messages)
  • @joewang3 #252661 08:41 AM, 14 Dec 2024
    Feature request: change the price of an existing dispenser without having to close and reopen it, in 1 tx if possible
  • How can we prevent price changes after a purchase at the original price?
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #252664 09:28 AM, 14 Dec 2024
    The feature is beneficial, but it could provide more options for scammers, in my opinion.
  • Nope - it doesn't change anything from a buyer's perspective (compared to the current implementation)

    It would only make it quicker and less expensive to change your dispenser price
  • These 'new features' (fairmints, atomic swaps) are still in early alpha as far as I know,
    and CP doesn't seem any more dead than last year!
  • Also still waiting for the big demand for oracled dispensers 😜

    And whatever happened to trusted dispensers linked to social media accounts, which were supposed to happen in 2022?
  • @pappyG45 #252668 05:29 PM, 14 Dec 2024
    another hot fix for the fork 😆
  • I’ve stopped using it, along with ppl I use it with since Adam left.

    Waiting for stability before I return.
  • It's annoying, but better have all those bugs / hotfixes now, while usage is low
  • nice catch anon
  • @Tap912 ↶ Reply to #252668 #252673 11:05 PM, 14 Dec 2024
    I was about to try a MPMA. Could I do it via the classic wallet?
  • Sure, but don't expect the assets moved by the classic wallet to be recognized by any other entities in the ecosystem (if my understanding is correct)
  • @Tap912 #252675 11:29 PM, 14 Dec 2024
    Hmmm, thanks
  • 15 December 2024 (21 messages)
  • @7812971072 #252680 08:13 AM, 15 Dec 2024
    🙈🙈
  • Since you’re a 2.0 supporter and only tend to speak up in here negatively on classic, perhaps you should bring your suggestion up with the 2.0 team. Changing dispenser prices on an open dispenser opens up more avenues for scamming (changing price while payment is incoming), so prolly not something that will be changed in classic
  • As with many proposed improvements over the years that I wanted to make, there was not consensus to add them to the protocol, so trusted dispensers were not added to the protocol…. You can verify this if you look at the conversations on this topic on the forums.

    Also, oracled dispensers require an oracle to constantly broadcast the price, which costs BTC. There was consensus to add oracled dispensers to counterparty, but not enough usage to sustain an Oracle service. I have solved this problem in xchain platform which I will release early next year.
  • Alpha features should not be in production software until they are stable. Atomic swaps, fairmints, etc could all have been developed and tested on testnet and the bugs worked out BEFORE removing dispenser functionality and putting out untested software releases that crash nodes and threaten the stability of the network.

    There has been more network downtime in the past year than ever before in the history of Counterparty, and as a result of this, usage is at an all time low.

    Still waiting for this mass usage that these new features were supposed to bring…. Seems like the opposite has happened🤷🏻‍♂️

    Not interested in pointless back and forth here…. It seems your questions here are mostly to troll, so disengaging.

    Have a nice day👍🏻
  • The classic and 2.0 networks are entirely separate now and txs generated on classic are not seen on 2.0. You can do Mpmas sends on 2.0, however they are much more expensive now since 2.0 disabled P2SH encoding and now requires multisig encoding. Multisig encoding allows much less data per output, resulting in much larger and expensive transactions than p2sh encoding.
  • @joewang3 #252687 02:30 PM, 15 Dec 2024
  • I made the suggestion on both forks, meaning I would like to see the change on both forks - again, you're assuming anything I post is trolling of some sort...

    And no it wouldn't open cause more scamming if we just use a 5-block delay like for dispenser closes.
  • Usage has been low but the drastic, "not tested properly changes" were implemented forcefully promising a great influx of newcomers. I think Jdog is referring to that and rightly so. A lot of us have been wondering, Where's the promised wonderland?
  • @Crazyzapped #252690 02:35 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    For which so much bad blood has been spilled already.
  • @Crazyzapped #252691 02:36 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    The constant fight,upgrades and what not have managed to alienate more people than it has integrated
  • @joewang3 #252692 02:37 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    The drama has been quite toxic for sure, but I think it's way too early to draw conclusions
  • @jadeingram #252693 02:39 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    Trump: Will do "some great things" in the field of encryption and become an industry leader
  • "Morning shows the day" and the Morning that has been on display till date atleast has been cringe.
  • Also, if I have to hazard a guess, is it because of Jdog building xchain platform that you guys are constantly attacking him, making troll channels just to try and break him down? Do you think xchain might be a serious competition to whatever you guys have in mind for counterparty 2.0? Otherwise I don't see any other reason for the constant attacks (making the atmosphere vitriolic for all of us), as the default setting in freewallet anyways is for Counterparty 2.0 . If anyone wants to use the classic , they will need to download fresh. Not as if Jdog has gone out of his way to trouble you guys. Infact, fm a lot of people's pount of view, it's the other way round.
  • @zuriel_rc #252697 06:11 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    I just created a dispenser for whoever is interested in collecting my 💚PEPEIT Series 34 card - Card 33
    (Im the artist) https://tokenscan.io/tx/e872567c1280c3812f2d63f05f8c3ddffdb7f004a72c3426423a7295c41126af
  • @TurnOffTheNews717 #252699 11:11 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    Tried to send some btc from freewallet but got a counterparty API error could it be because the address I was sending to is bc1?
  • @BrrrGuy #252700 11:47 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    If it’s a counterparty API error, the error is coming directly from counterparty n not a freewallet-specific issue. What is the error message?
  • Counterparty API Error:
    “Unknown error”
  • @TurnOffTheNews717 #252702 11:58 PM, 15 Dec 2024
    I remember having an issue sending btc to certain types of addresses at some point and think this is the same issue
  • 16 December 2024 (26 messages)
  • @BrrrGuy #252703 12:19 AM, 16 Dec 2024
    Hrm… prolly best to ask in the cp 2.0 channel… “unknown error” is not a very helpful message from the api🤷🏻‍♂️😜
  • @joewang3 #252704 12:28 AM, 16 Dec 2024
    Er If this channel is for the classic fork, why is it still called 'Official Counterparty Chat'??
    Better rename it ASAP as the current name is misleading people
  • @BrrrGuy #252705 12:38 AM, 16 Dec 2024
    This channel has had the same name for many years and it is for all people that use counterparty not a specific version… however there is a channel that is specifically for users that want to discuss only counterparty 2.0. Since the issue the user was referring to was a counterparty 2.0 specific issue and the counterparty 2.0 developers have left this channel and started their own channel where they want people to discuss counterparty 2.0, advising a user who’s having problems with counterparty 2.0 to ask the counterparty 2.0 developers and the channel they specifically created to talk about counterparty 2.0 makes the most sense.

    I know you don’t see it but once again this seems like trolling … always being critical of what’s going on in this channel and advice offered to users🤷🏻‍♂️
  • @BrrrGuy #252706 12:39 AM, 16 Dec 2024
    To be clear, this channel is not just for classic, it is for all users of all versions of counterparty to discuss counterparty, and if I renamed this channel to counterparty classic or something else, it would simply be used to further attack me and further the narrative that this was a hostile channel takeover rather than the counterparty 2.0 devs rage quitting the channel when asked questions they didn’t want to answer.

    The name of this channel has been the same for many years and there is no point in changing it now
  • U sound vaccinated
  • Pretty sure the fork was quick to name it counterparty 2.0
  • @mj_vega #252710 02:03 AM, 16 Dec 2024
    is counterparty having issues? I am trying to transfer btc from one address to another in my ninja wallet and when I hit "estimate" it says 'counterparty error'
  • @7812971072 #252712 08:22 AM, 16 Dec 2024
    hi😋
  • @BrrrGuy #252715 01:26 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    Classic is fine… Ii believe the cp 2.0 devs said they would be updating their servers n could be some downtime…. Best to ask them I guess
  • i see XCP on classic is 0.000075 , on V2 it is 0.00075 one zero less.
  • what a terrible answer to someone pointing an issue.
  • @mobdick47 #252718 02:06 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    is this a classic chat lol? then i am confused too. i was thinking this is main counterparty group with the most of people.
  • @mobdick47 #252719 02:06 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    And there is nobody trading on classic
  • @mobdick47 #252720 02:06 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    how come 1.4k members has no actions on the chain?
  • @mobdick47 #252721 02:07 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    seriously this is classic and not V2??
  • @mobdick47 #252723 02:07 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    XCP price on classic is 10 times lower. i am not getting something
  • I think I missed something, where I can see v1 market and where is v2 market?
  • FreeWallet still defaults to counterparty 2.0, which is why the majority of the activity is still on counterparty 2.0…. Had I wanted to push all the activity to classic, I could’ve easily done so by switching the default in FreeWallet to classic…. However, I do not feel that is the appropriate thing to do as most people I think would expect to be on CP 2.0, and I don’t want to mislead or force ppl to my preferred version.

    There is activity on classic however not much is being done to draw attention to classic at this time, hence low activity.

    And also CP 2.0 has very little activity as well, certainly not the onslaught of new users that were promised with these new features that were supposed to drive a bunch of adoption.

    This is not a classic or CP 2.0 room , this is a room for counterparty users to ask questions about the platform, as it has always been.

    The counterparty 2.0 developers chose to rage quit this channel when asked questions they didn’t want to answer and started their own CP 2.0 channel with a couple hundred users in it now.

    If you have a question about CP 2.0 I would encourage you to ask your question in their channel rather than here. If you have a question about functionality in counterparty, you can probably ask it here and get it answered as 98% of the functionality is the same between both CP 2.0 and classic.

    Though I suspect based off of your comments that you’re not really here to ask questions and rather here to troll a bit 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • V1 = classic.tokenscan.io
    V2 = Cp20.tokenscan.io
  • @mobdick47 #252731 03:38 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    ahhh i see now. admin
  • @mobdick47 #252732 03:38 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    before it showed "reply"
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252733 03:39 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    I am j-dog, owner of the channel and core developer of cp for many years, and guy who runs classic, tokenscan, freewallet, etc…. I just choose to not be in here from my main account anymore 👍🏻
  • which one of my messages was trolling?

    the one that i said "what a terrible answer to someone pointing an issue." or the one where someone said "U sound vaccinated" ?
  • @mobdick47 #252735 03:40 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    i thought everyone here is trolling
  • Thank you for letting know. 👌
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252737 03:42 PM, 16 Dec 2024
    If you are aware of the history here over the past couple months, you would know that Joe is a CP 2.0 supporter who specifically only speaks up to try to troll people in this channel and talk negatively about classic. Hence the responses to him that he is trolling, etc..

    If his question was a genuine question, then yes, that would probably be less than ideal response, however, as we have dealt with months of trolling and nonsense from the CP 2.0 camp, the response seems appropriate, considering the source.

    I’m off to do some coding. I hope you have a great day.😊
  • 17 December 2024 (26 messages)
  • @SamadhiSpeaks #252746 06:36 AM, 17 Dec 2024
    I have news.

    RarePepeTrader will be back with a WTH 2.0 relaunch in 48 hours, with an announcement of a Boxing Day Auction setup for 22:00 UTC 26/12/2024.
  • @7812971072 #252748 09:00 AM, 17 Dec 2024
    💋💋
  • Yeah still having issues just tried to send btc still getting counterparty api error
  • @Niftyboss1 #252754 07:01 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    Could you confirm the current version of your wallet, and your server settings ?
  • @TurnOffTheNews717 #252755 07:13 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    As jdog mentioned this is a 2.0 issue since I downloaded the most recent one freewallet prompted me to download. Just venting I suppose and don’t feel like going in the 2.0 chat don’t want the drama
  • @pappyG45 #252756 07:15 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    looks like another hot fix in the works
  • @TurnOffTheNews717 #252758 07:39 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    Crazy how much the price of XCP tanked due to the drama… and still no one wants to buy it on 2.0 👀
  • @Niftyboss1 #252759 07:45 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    There is actually _some_ OTC activity but things have been really quiet lately
  • Do you have some to sell?
  • No I just check the XCP market daily for my health
  • @Murabaveil #252764 08:26 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    Where i can sell this token
  • @Murabaveil #252765 08:28 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    Max volume?
  • how to change the default to classic
  • @papeto ↶ Reply to #252766 #252767 08:42 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    wallet:
    https://freewallet.io/classic
    Counterparty Classic ledger:
    https://classic.tokenscan.io/ 😉
  • thank you
  • do i have to uninstall the other one or can just leave it there
  • @MachineUser #252770 08:47 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    Why not install both? For your pleasure.
  • @OoakosiMo #252771 08:49 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    yea its installed i just ask cos i duno maybe it will conflict or keep it both open or might get confused
  • @OoakosiMo #252772 08:50 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    i dint understand before that the defualt was on 2.0
  • @OoakosiMo #252773 08:51 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    so i was using that one does it mean it doesnt exist in the classic one all the txn and the asset send and asset issuances txns?
  • correct... what you do on classic is not seen on 2.0 and vice versa except when buying from dispensers... best to use the one you prefer, or both if you prefer.
  • @OoakosiMo #252775 09:00 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    if both the btcs spent on txns will it spend on both
  • @OoakosiMo #252776 09:03 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    or if example since i got dispensers from 2021 2020 to maybe early this year
  • @OoakosiMo #252777 09:04 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    like if for example it sells will i get btc visible
  • @BrrrGuy #252778 09:05 PM, 17 Dec 2024
    you can setup dispensers on the same address on cp 2.0 and classic and if ppl buy from the dispenser using CP 2.0, then the dispenser on classic will dispense a token as well.... tho I would suggest just using separate wallets/addresses for each, just to keep things segmented/separate
  • 18 December 2024 (14 messages)
  • @pappyG45 #252782 12:42 AM, 18 Dec 2024
    the new devs vc seems really excited about stax 😆
  • @juangalt #252784 01:31 AM, 18 Dec 2024
    Wasap y'all. So what's the status of dispensers now. Do they all work? are they all broken? are the old fork version ones working and the new ones broken?
  • @juangalt #252785 01:32 AM, 18 Dec 2024
    Someone would should put an AI on this chat and train it on all the conversation so we can easily do a quick AI query and get the tldr LOL
  • Lolz a stax of deez 🥜
  • if you want to trigger a dispenser using just a normal BTC send... that only works on classic.. if you want to use CP 2.0, you gotta use a CP 2.0 compatible wallet (freewallet or horizon)... no more onboarding normies via dispensers in 2.0... they have to seek out and download a CP 2.0 wallet before being able to buy from a CP 2.0 dispenser.
  • @ddddddd497 #252795 01:54 PM, 18 Dec 2024
    gm
  • @ddddddd497 #252796 01:54 PM, 18 Dec 2024
    is exchange on freewallet out?
  • @ddddddd497 #252797 01:54 PM, 18 Dec 2024
    i cant conect
  • wtf is this
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252802 06:46 PM, 18 Dec 2024
    maybe take the freewallet questions to the freewallet channel @freewallet_io
  • Is freewallet no longer compatible with CP classic?
  • If you want to use FW Classic you have to download the Freewallet classic version... It is marked on the website.... As for the most recent version of Freewallet, which is V 2.0.1, that version runs xcp 2.0 .... If you haven't already you should absolutely upgrade to the most recent version (v 2.0.1)
  • 19 December 2024 (118 messages)
  • @jadeingram #252813 11:29 AM, 19 Dec 2024
    Good day all
  • Has anyone made a comparison chart of the benefits and downsides of all the relevant forks? It's confusing as all hell.
  • Is this desktop version?
  • Definitely no drawing happening lol
  • Depending on who you ask, expect a lot of bias. (I wish this post could be pinned, but I will probably be marked as a troll instead lol)

    I don't know of any chart, but IMO, it's quite easy to decide just based on this:

    * 'Classic' is an island with no active development, depends on one person/entity, and has no real users and no trades (out of 40,000 monthly unique xchain visitors)

    * 'Current' has all of the userbase and infra providers (dex-trade, emblem vault, pepe.wtf, stamps, SoG, rarepepe etc)
    'Current' also has lots of active development, gets new features and security updates
  • @joewang3 #252820 01:26 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Until it gets less centralized and starts getting used, I think of Classic as the new testnet 😂
  • It’s been goofy I tried it submit it a directory so all the the things lock token change JSON and send card burn cards !
    Cost me like $8 and as I waited for the transactions to go threw I did the same with 3 Dogeparty cards and had everything done $1.5 then bought some
    Other assets checked back and ended up closing my computer without the xcp stuff going threw yet lol 😂
    Maybe today it’s done ??
    Is that gonna speed up ?
  • Seems like shipping stuff off to emblem is the new xcp market I feel icky about it all but I’m weird lol 😂
  • @joewang3 #252823 01:31 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    'Current' has some bugs (related to the new features) as every active project does, but is fixing them at a fast pace. The stability issues with dispensers have all been resolved a few weeks ago.

    Also note that the Current maintainers are not in this chat.
  • Well, it has been that way since 2021-2022 lol.
  • What are the trade-offs between those three in regards to dispensers?
  • @juangalt #252826 01:35 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    And I don't know if I'm allowed to ask but I'm curious where stamps fit into that table as well.
  • This might answer
  • But only talks of classic and 2.0 not 'current'
  • @joewang3 #252830 01:37 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    @juangalt Some call it "2.0", but it's only a unofficial name for the current version of the software (10.8.0 right now)
  • So doesn’t the are you sending to a dispenser option work in free wallet ? Too
  • Who say that?
  • So great my guess at the start was 10.8 would be stable lol 😂 so funny
  • @Jpcryptos #252834 01:39 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    We are active working on both networks
  • @pappyG45 #252835 01:41 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    current=fork
  • @pappyG45 #252836 01:41 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    fork is not stable
  • @pappyG45 #252837 01:41 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    fork=testnet
  • @juangalt Also, for security reasons it's no longer possible to open a new dispenser on a fresh address in a single tx for security reasons. It now requires (at least) 2 tx: 1. Send asset+btc to new address 2. create dispenser
  • @pappyG45 #252839 01:41 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    2.0 fork does not have a wallet that supports many of the features
  • @pappyG45 #252840 01:41 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    2.0 fork caters to free numerics
  • @pappyG45 #252841 01:42 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    not using xcp
  • FreeWallet 2.0 does!
  • @pappyG45 #252843 01:42 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    the one the fork devs put a red label on?
  • @joewang3 #252844 01:42 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    But no single wallet supports all features of the Counterparty at this time :(
  • @pappyG45 #252845 01:42 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    ya so their is active hostility to the only open spurce wallet that supports all of the features
  • yep lol
  • I think they should all touch some grass; smoke some weed together and stop the bs!4
  • @codythecampbell #252849 01:43 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    It’s like this then
  • @codythecampbell #252850 01:44 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    A meet up lol 😂
  • Stamps support (and run) the current version too
  • @Jpcryptos #252852 01:46 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    For a year I have been trying to make a blockvault realese, to provide self-custody services to CP users but every month the blockchain goes down. and now CP is forked and i have to put two devs back to work to fix the bugs that came up with the fork.
  • ouch. what kind of bugs?
  • Right
  • All the nodes down
  • @Jpcryptos #252856 01:48 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Malforned tx causing bugs
  • There three live versions though?
  • Nope, two forks, classic and current
  • @pappyG45 #252859 01:56 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Fork is also funded by degen VC that actively supports staxs ordinals runes etc
  • Ohh. Is fork. The stamps enabled one or what's the deal there?
  • @juangalt #252861 02:09 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Maybe one of you guys should just come on my podcast and we can play 20 questions LOL
  • Both sides call the other the fork FYI
  • Probably best to invite one supporter of each fork :)
  • Each side calls the other the fork lol.
    I think the term has lost its meaning.
  • @joewang3 #252865 02:47 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Official stance is here:
  • @joewang3 #252866 02:47 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    FAQ | Counterparty

    Can I secure my XCP and Counterparty tokens in cold storage?

  • @joewang3 #252867 02:48 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    J-dog's stance is here:
  • @joewang3 #252868 02:48 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Brrr Guy in Official Counterparty Chat

    As I stated yesterday, my intention is to put out a release in the next week or so which will add replay protection to counterparty classic. Replay protection is changing the prefix that is used in transactions on the platform. After this replay protection change is added to counterparty classic, then the ledgers and platforms will be entirely separate and transactions done on counterparty 2.0 will not effect counterparty classic and vice versa. Tokenscan.io will continue to default to showing counterparty 2.0 data, and FreeWallet will continue to use counterparty 2.0 via API calls to a counterparty 2.0 servers. Classic.tokenscan.io will continue to show counterparty classic data, and users will be able to interact with counterparty classic by downloading FreeWallet classic, an entirely separate wallet instance named something entirely separate. Tokenscan.io will be updated have a header at the top of every page indicating if users are viewing data from counterparty 2.0 or viewing data from counterparty…

  • I think they are a (minority) investor in Unspendable Labs, which is Adam's private company, but they haven't invested in Counterparty itself
  • true... however if we look at the history of how forks work.... CP 2.0 released new software (forked from the old software).. and CP 2.0 forked the ledger (new functionality which caused the ledgers to diverge).... so, ppl can finger point and call whatever they want the fork, but if you look at the facts, historically, the new verison of software and/or ledger are called the fork... and in this case, CP 2.0 is the new version in both cases 🤷️️️️️️
  • kinda wish that Adam and team would have just been transparent with VC funding and come forward and mentioned that a for-profit VC backed company is now in charge of development of a decentralized protocol.... would have put everything to bed... instead, choose to not disclose that for many months, then when I asked questions about it, tried to silence/censor me by booting me from the channel, then when that didn't work, rage-quit teh channel and started their own channel..... STILL could have come back at any time (he has never been banned or kicked from here)... and had over a month to add back the functionality that users were upset was lost (origin dispenser functionality).... ppl can think what they want, but the history speaks for itself.... plenty of opportunities to mend the divide and over a month to bring the ledger and communities back together... but they choose a different path, which is fine, but the constant trolling and personal attacks and creating entire rooms to just circle-jerk-hate-talk on myself and classic is pretty ridiculous
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252872 04:20 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Anyway, of to do some dev work... working on a new release of freewallet (which works with cp 2.0)... yes, even tho still personally attacked and hated by cp 2.0 devs, still here for the community, still writing wallet for ppl to use, didn't force ppl to my preferred version of CP (classic).... Some things are more important than hate and trolling. Hope everyone has a nice day 🙂
  • stamps are on both classic and cp 2.0... no changes on classic to limit stamps in any way (no numeric fees, etc)
  • Happy to come on your podcast if you would like... fyi, here is the TLDR of the past 2 months
  • @ChiefSamyaza #252875 04:24 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    full history of chats is here... fun starts in about mid october when CP 2.0 activated, adam didn't disclose $630k VC funding in previous months to his private company UnspendableLabs, tried to kick me when I asked about it... failed cuz I am channel owner... etc.

    CP 2.0 goes live (crashes)
    https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_2.html#242496

    I ask questions about 670k VC funding
    https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_4.html#243902

    Adam bans me and says I am lying...
    https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_5.html#244178

    Adam rage-quits Counterparty channel and creates Counterparty 2.0 channel
    https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-10_6.html#244531

    ... month of trolling and drama...

    I release Counterparty Classic with Replay protection after a month of waiting for Adam and team to restore the dispenser origin functionality
    https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2024-11_7.html#252026

    ... trolling and drama continues

    That is a quick TLDR of the state of things 😛
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  • @ChiefSamyaza #252878 05:36 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    @shawnleary @hodlencoinfield nice whitewash... too bad its already been logged to the history... If you dont like being questioned on why your doing sketchy stuff, maybe dont do it... If you want to use a new bot, cool, but name it something different, dont name it the same thing as the bot I run in order to try and mislead ppl that nothing has changed... IMO matching icon and name is shady behavior 🤷️️️️️️

    https://j-dog.net/archive/RarePepeChat/2024-12_5.html#936330

    Have a nice day. Done here for the day.
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  • @ChiefSamyaza #252879 05:37 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Once again... some shady stuff going on in the background... truly sad how "respected" ppl here do sketchy stuff n whitewash 🤷️️️️️️
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252881 10:31 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Think I got banned from another 2.0 group
  • @MachineUser #252882 10:37 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Xcer claiming responsibility in dev chat
  • 2.0 is the solana vax kamala bros
  • @pappyG45 #252884 10:38 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    they deleted my trumpdancing and one guy said my token was really ghey basically
  • @pappyG45 #252885 10:38 PM, 19 Dec 2024
  • @pappyG45 #252886 10:38 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    it really hurt muh feels
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252887 11:01 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Trump dancing is legendary
  • Manginas
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252889 11:03 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    POV: You Are That Conservative Uncle at Thanksgiving

    #Shorts #MichaelKnowles #TheMichaelKnowlesShow #News #Politics #DailyWire #Thanksgiving #Family #Conservative #DonaldTrump #Funny #Comedy #Skit #ComedySkit #...

  • This is @pappyG45 whipping out his Trump dancing card
  • Lonney is gone, so full of shizzz, leary was always a parasite. He is one of counterpartys fattest bloodsuckers
  • @LongbranchBear #252892 11:05 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    What a gross move to murder the oracle while no one was looking
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252893 11:13 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Messages deleted also, strange
  • @LongbranchBear #252899 11:19 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    The oracles last pull
  • @LongbranchBear #252901 11:20 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Lonneys first pull
  • press f to pay respects
  • @LongbranchBear #252903 11:20 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Fitting
  • @pappyG45 #252904 11:20 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    fffffffffffffffffff
  • @LongbranchBear #252905 11:20 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Fffff
  • @Jpcryptos #252906 11:20 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    F
  • @Jpcryptos #252910 11:25 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    I rember i put Adam and some OG in a meeting with bitget.com (global bussines). And i promised them 30k to help and get listed on bitget.
  • @Jpcryptos #252911 11:25 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    But then i dont know how ended.
  • @Jpcryptos #252912 11:27 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Bitget.com asked to prepare documentation and some things. But I think I risked my reputation with Bitget by introducing them. Because in the end we were not listed anywhere. Nobody took responsibility for that.
  • @Jpcryptos #252913 11:31 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Lets rename counterparty as COUNTERDRAMA
  • @Jpcryptos #252914 11:32 PM, 19 Dec 2024
  • nice, I was going to make one of those
  • 3 years ago it became reality
  • @pappyG45 #252917 11:33 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    2222222
  • @pappyG45 #252918 11:33 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    7X2's
  • @pappyG45 #252919 11:33 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    looks like WINNING
  • @Jpcryptos #252920 11:35 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Lets do some numerology
  • @juangalt #252921 11:35 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    nice dude
  • @Jpcryptos #252922 11:36 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Tx index
    1+9+1+4+4+9+4 = 32
    Year 2022 (20+22) = 32
  • @Jpcryptos #252923 11:36 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    My math dont work. Jajaj
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252924 11:37 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    2 + 0 = stamp soy boy
  • @Jpcryptos #252925 11:38 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    I don't know you guys in person, but every once in a while every year I come into this chat and have a good time, CP is the blockchain for memes, dramas and weird guys.
  • This is the cheapest dispenser there are lots of scammer ones out there cause I gave this one away but if anyone doesnt have it drop your addy happy to send some. https://tokenscan.io/tx/13aba09d799b3ea39aac34688d13429c25f996a8c0adfd7e1f8f5d1a1326b2b5
  • Data on chain = Chad
  • Didn't realize how much kek was inolved with this card
  • jpegs on chain = noise
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252931 11:54 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    8 X 2's (date/time) , is that how many releases there was in 1 week of 2.0
  • Pick a side
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252933 11:57 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    Numerics with subassets = mangina
  • @BrrrGuy #252934 11:58 PM, 19 Dec 2024
  • Close, was 9
  • must be for testing and learning only
  • @pappyG45 #252937 11:58 PM, 19 Dec 2024
    kek
  • 20 December 2024 (97 messages)
  • @DOGESTYLEEE #252938 12:01 AM, 20 Dec 2024
    Kek, gn all
  • Agreed
  • are scammer dispensers also a thing in aheeeem, the ooother fork?
  • Just people over pricing something I give away
  • Yup…. No functionality change to make them safer in 2.0 (the dangers are way overstated by that camp)…. All they did was make it cost 3txs to open a dispenser on a new address instead of 1tx…. And same in reverse to close… to setup new dispenser on empty/new address and then close n return assets to origin address is now 6txs instead of 2

    And dispensers still “ruggable”… seller can wait for incoming payment then rush full payment to dispenser to front-run n buy from dispenser before other tx is confirmed…

    Used to be able to just close dispenser with incoming dispense…. I added 5-block close delay logic last year to make it tougher for scammers to scam…. Now the only way to “rug” is how I mentioned, and it requires the scammer to buy out the dispenser instead of just closing it…. That is the last improvement made to dispensers (by me, last year)… all changes this year have lost functionality n made them more difficult h expensive to use…. All using the false claim of “security bug where someone could close other ppls dispensers”…. Something never possible (could only open new dispenser on empty address)
  • I have to admit, the 'critical vulnerability' is more of a spam category at worse, as per the reading of their FAQ.

    seems like a feature to me more than a bug. The real vulnerability is the RBF attack that you described. That would be something worth upgrading a protocol for.

    But I guess we'll see what progress they make.
  • Remember BCH fixed RBF. Ver wasn’t wrong.
  • @joewang3 #252950 01:46 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    OK let's stop misleading people! Dispensers are ruggable due to their core design and nothing can fix them. This was discussed ad nauseam and known for years.

    The "5-block close delay" is close to useless - It can't prevent any scammers since front-running is still trivial to execute. I think this is the real reason why usage is so low. We need new (safer) ways to transact. All the rest is irrelevant.
  • Your constant fear mongering over a useful feature the community has used for years will no longer be tolerated.
  • @OoakosiMo #252953 02:10 PM, 20 Dec 2024
  • OK, I'm sorry if that was a little too harsh. I just wanted to bring some balance to stuff that was said above. I agree dispensers have been useful, but there seems to be no proper way to fix their issues (and many people have tried). However, for the time being it seems we don't have much better options available.
  • dispensers will go away when atomic swaps take over however there has been major bugs with atomic swaps and people losing their assets in utxo's so by all means let us know how that works out for you. the forked protocol is down every other day, devs rushing out new stuff causing people to lose assets etc.
  • Yeah... preventing people from being able to immediately close the dispenser, and making it so scammers have to wait 50 minutes before a dispenser closes, and making it so that they have to buy the dispenser out (use the same amount of BTC as the person buying from the dispenser) totally doesnt add any more protections (sarcasm)... and you wonder why ppl here say your trolling... You may disagree with dispensers, but saying that improvements the community requested, which solved a problem, and made it more difficult and expensive for scammers to try and "rug" dispenser as "useless" is trolling.
  • the proper way to fix them would have been to leave dispensers alone and focus on atomic swaps... building a viable replacement BEFORE breaking what was working and making them more expensive and harder to use (6 txs to open and close instead of 2).... but, the core devs (who recently returned to the community after 10+ years, and who have very little understanding or connection to the community here for the past 10 years) feel that they can force their viewpoints and changes into CP.... as I said many times, I'm all for improvements, but you don't break stuff before alternatives are there to replace them.... And I gave them over a month to rectify the situation... I didn't cause the fork, but best believe that i'm perfectly happy to keep a "community driven" version of CP running.... throwing all the CIPs and hard work done over the 10 years while they were gone, and talking shit on dispensers, something that John Villar and I came up with to solve a problem with using BTC on the dex, simply because they dont think the model is perfect, is ridiculous.
  • @BrrrGuy #252959 03:49 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    Anyway... enough drama for the day... I tend to agree with Gmoney and feel that you should be muted if you continue to troll... your viewpoint has been made abundantly clear... tho I wont mute you, will let someone else do that if/when they feel it is necessary.
  • @BrrrGuy #252960 03:49 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    On a lighter note
  • @BrrrGuy #252963 03:51 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    Counterwallet is finally back up and working... Javier and I proposed 3 different fixes over a year ago to get counterblock parsing again, exactly 1 week after it was broken.... those 3 proposals were ignored and shit-canned by Adam and team... and counterwallet was deprecated (IMO to force ppl to their new wallet Horizon)..... Anyway, counterparty classic has counterwallet working again, and will be doing announcement soon 🙂
  • @BrrrGuy #252964 03:51 PM, 20 Dec 2024
  • @BrrrGuy #252965 03:51 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    Hope everyone has a nice day... off to yoga 😛
  • @BrrrGuy #252967 03:52 PM, 20 Dec 2024
  • Joe has been warned if he continues he will be muted. He's probably a sock anyway only in 3 groups no pepe chats etc so we are probably just arguing with another stamp shill.
  • holy hseeeet this is amazing! weird the fork devs wont approve the changes to make the wallet work probably cause their degen masters pushing stax dont want working tools for the community
  • @Jpcryptos #252970 04:15 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    Cool
  • I don’t think I’ve ever used this wallet. Only freewallet and rarepepewallet in all my years. Is there an advantage to this wallet over others or is it just providing more options for users?
  • I bet you we could double spend bcash if we really tried. RBF solves a fundamental blockchain problem. specially when your blockchain has a fraction of the hashing power available to the world.
  • not surprising you would support that clown
  • @juangalt #252974 05:00 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    the whole point of blockchains is that final settlement doesn't happen until the miners mine blocks and stack em ontop
  • @juangalt #252975 05:00 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    the double spending RBF addressed was in relation to people judging zero confirmation transactions as final, which again, read the white paper. they are not.
  • to your credit though, this is the first I hear of BCH fixing RBF, so curious what you mean.
  • it was the first counterparty wallet (written by co-founder Robby), and works on mobile... and supported a betting interface... which was awesome, tho saw little usage since no more oracles to bet on.... i'd give it a try when it comes back up 🙂
  • BCH removed RBF and segwit at the fork, making BCH closer to the original whitepaper version.
  • I support the truth
  • BCH is irrelevant mate. They lost the war by going on in on a skirmish.
  • @juangalt #252983 07:17 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    plus lightning is better anyway, and actually achieves final settlement equivalent to zero conf in a much more secure way
  • History will repeat

    Know your history
  • @pappyG45 #252985 07:17 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    lol
  • I've literally been writing and interviewing and talking about the history for a decade.
  • @ABlue0ne #252987 07:17 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    The history isn’t irrelevant
  • @pappyG45 #252988 07:18 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    dont feed the troll
  • @ABlue0ne #252989 07:19 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    How am I trolling telling true history? What lie have I told?
  • @pappyG45 #252990 07:20 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    anyone claiming to know satohi's true intentions via the white paper is a clown
  • @pappyG45 #252991 07:25 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    anyways this is getting off topic
  • @pappyG45 #252992 07:25 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    anyone doing any cool shit on xcp these days? seems pretty dead lol
  • @pappyG45 #252993 07:26 PM, 20 Dec 2024
  • @BrrrGuy #252995 07:39 PM, 20 Dec 2024
    lots of fun going on over on dogeparty.... raredogedirectory.com is closing in the next 11 days after 3 years... so, lots of last minute awesome art being made 🙂
  • dogeparty running smooth on dispensers weird how no one is complaining over there about it
  • Please do not tell Adam and his friends behind Unspentable Labs) Dispensers must stay there.
  • Have no fear, dogeparty was rebooted by Javier and myself 3 years ago, so it has always been, and will remain, community driven 🙂