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  • 01 January 2021 (12 messages)
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64457 #64466 01:28 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    ❤️❤️
  • @OoakosiMo #64467 01:28 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    happy new year
  • @dr_blowfin #64468 01:42 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    👍
  • @Superart #64469 02:19 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    HAPPY NEW YEAR, PARTY PEOPLE!!!!
  • @Superart #64470 02:20 AM, 01 Jan 2021

    mp4.mp4

  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #64388 #64471 02:25 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    Regarding anti-spam. I just created a numeric asset and cost about $1.50 in Bitcoin, so even without XCP, the bitcoin cost itself acts as an anti-spam mechanism.
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64471 #64476 03:24 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    Yes, but can create assets for much cheaper... I do txs all the time for like $0.02.... would cost $1 to spam 50 numeric asset issuances vs 50 named assets would cost $26 (50 x 0.5 XCP = 25 XCP @ $1 each = $25 + $1 tx fees)... spamming assets is an attack vector, hence why the founders put anti-spam XCP fees on certain db intensive actions like issuances and dividends.... wouldn’t be that tough/expensive for someone to “attack” CP by spamming issuances to bloat the database and slow things down.... not an issue now, but something to keep in mind😀👍🏻
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64476 #64477 03:31 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    But the founders also made the A assets with no XCP fee?
  • @mikeinspace #64478 03:56 AM, 01 Jan 2021
    Just my opinion but anything that makes Counterparty more accessible at this point is probably worth the tradeoffs, given how much of the token space has migrated to Ethereum.
  • @XCERXCP #64486 04:53 PM, 01 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-01_16-53-30.jpg
  • @maxherbertwest #64487 04:54 PM, 01 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @XCERXCP #64488 04:56 PM, 01 Jan 2021
    Coming along good, was hoping to be done last night but wasn’t happening. Maybe today if wife doesn’t yell too much 😂
  • 02 January 2021 (143 messages)
  • @XCERXCP #64515 03:53 PM, 02 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-02_15-53-49.jpg
  • @XCERXCP #64516 03:54 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I’m going to wrote a CIP to improve on this a little. I think it could use a little update, the edges and stuff are a little rough
  • @jdogresorg #64517 03:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Not sure a CIP is appropriate for a logo update.
  • @XCERXCP #64518 03:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Not suggesting changing the logo, but suggesting giving it a little update to make it a little more beautiful, ui friendly
  • @jdogresorg #64519 03:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Just create what u want
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64517 #64520 03:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Ok, well how could we maybe get it looking a little better
  • @XCERXCP #64521 03:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Ok cool
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64520 #64524 03:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    FYI.. you can get higher quality versions at https://counterparty.io/support/#logos
  • @303662915 #64531 04:33 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    What happened to XCP in the last 24 hrs.?
  • @ffmad #64532 04:34 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    ?
  • @krostue #64533 04:34 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Lol
  • @krostue #64534 04:35 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Ripple?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64531 #64535 04:35 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    What is the full name of the asset you mention?
  • @303662915 #64536 04:36 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Counterparty?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64531 #64537 04:37 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Ok sorry. What does this imply?
    Did you read a news story, or see something?
  • @krostue #64538 04:37 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Afaik nothing "happened"
  • @303662915 #64539 04:47 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Binance delisted it last year. Trying to recover it. Blockfolio shows it up 95% overnight.
  • @589717099 #64540 04:49 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    u got scammed, it never was on binance
  • @krostue #64541 04:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    as I do not use blockfolio as a source of information, so I am unclear where their feed comes from. Furthermore of the market value sampling may not be accurate portrayal of the overall system financial impact or technological fortitude. To that extent it is always important to use an exchange to exchange but keep your funds close at hand. CounterParty specifically encourages custody of private keys. Sorry for your loss.

    If you do decide to pay the recovery fee or inquire further it would be nice of you to report back on their willingness to help others in your situation if there are many.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64524 #64542 05:20 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Thank you. I’ve seen this before but will use.
  • @jdogresorg #64544 05:50 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @krostue #64545 06:01 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Unpopular for many reasons
  • @589717099 #64546 06:03 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    would be like if suddenly devs decide that we need more than 21m bitcoins
  • @589717099 #64548 06:05 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    pretty sure it can go another -99% from here
  • @krostue #64549 06:05 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I do not believe that this is a proper venue for discussing unpopular ideas. nor do I agree with the idea so I don't see participation in this discussion to be productive
  • @589717099 #64550 06:05 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    could be delisted from the only exchange it is right now
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64550 #64551 06:06 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    "centralized" exchange.... XCP will always be available to purchase via dispeners or DEX 🙂
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64550 #64552 06:06 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    As it would change things
  • @589717099 #64553 06:06 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    and the people building for it could say "well there it goes the integrity of the project, cya"
  • @ffmad #64554 06:06 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    There are very few people who can trade on it
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64553 #64556 06:06 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Lol, who?
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #64551 #64558 06:07 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    true
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64557 #64559 06:07 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Don't conflate that with burning :0
  • @krostue #64560 06:09 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Please
  • @krostue #64562 06:09 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    How can you both claim that it's been dead in here for years and then also verify that you don't know if something was discussed?
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #64557 #64563 06:10 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    don't know if they care about xcp mintin new coins, but they could (i would if i was a dev, kinda) but werent some people working on something called Hazama?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64549 #64564 06:10 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Perhaps you could take the time to reread this statement and consider the meaning
  • @589717099 #64566 06:10 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    for faster and cheaper transactions
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64566 #64567 06:11 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Yes. https://hazama.io/lp.html
  • @jdogresorg #64568 06:11 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    that deals more with speed and cost on the main base chain (BTC) than it does with minting more XCP.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #37471 #64569 06:11 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Try searching next time
  • @krostue #64570 06:12 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    This only shows that it has come up in discussion before
  • @krostue #64572 06:13 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Thank you for gracing us with your analysis
  • @jdogresorg #64574 06:17 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    My gut reaction is NO to another burn, primarily because it would devalue the XCP held by community members who believe in the platform and hold XCP. That being said, there doesn't seem to be much action lately on any fronts... community engagement, projects, exchange listings, etc... so, I think hearing ideas, even unpopular ideas, is worthwhile.... we can't know if an idea is good or bad until we discuss it and play out the possible outcomes... just my $0.02.
  • @jdogresorg #64575 06:17 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    dev is progressing nicely.. that is about it 🙁
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64573 #64576 06:18 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Ask not what the foundation has done for you but what you have done for the foundation
  • @ffmad #64577 06:19 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Burning current XCP has sense, burning BTC for new XCP I don't see the idea
  • @589717099 #64578 06:19 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I think a user friendly DEX experience, wrapped XCP or new art for the NFTs (and maybe more helpful being able to trate XCP NFTs on the new platforms) would be much better for XCP than mintin more of it
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64578 #64579 06:20 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    +💯
  • @ffmad #64580 06:21 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I hope I can find some time this year to work on something related to CryptoArt
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64577 #64582 06:24 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I kinda like the idea of stopping "burning" xcp for asset issuances and dividends and such... and just putting that "burned" XCP into a dev fund instead of destroying it..... we are talking tiny amounts of XCP anyway... it would ensure that the supply of XCP stayed solid/stable and act more like BTC (recycling fees back into the ecosystem via miners)
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64578 #64583 06:25 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @jdogresorg #64584 06:26 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    a mobile/desktop friendly CP wallet with a DEX interface is sorely needed.... freewallet.io is ok, but DEX is only on desktop.... IMO we need a replacement for counterwallet as it is way old and outdated.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #64581 #64585 06:27 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    You attacked me above.
    And you don't read, it seems.
    So yes, not worth it today
  • @krostue #64587 06:28 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I hate to resort to claiming psychological projection but I don't feel I'm the one being combative currently
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64582 #64589 06:35 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    100%. I don’t think the founders ever burned the XCP for the reason of making the supply less
  • @XCERXCP #64590 06:35 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    So when you issue an asset, not only are your creating something for yourself, but helping the community as a whole also.
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #64584 #64591 06:36 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    uniswap has shown us how simple a DEX can, and probably should be, if we could get something like that it would be awesome, it's a tool that is needed
  • @jdogresorg #64592 06:37 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    The plan with burning XCP was to eventually move from a fixed pricing structure (0.5 XCP for named, 0.25 for subassets, etc) to a price driven by how much XCP was available, how much was burned in the last X period, etc etc..... so, they wanted to ensure longer-term that all the XCP was not destroyed.
  • @589717099 #64593 06:39 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    if asset issuance were easy as that too (as using uniswap) XCP would get even more attention
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64591 #64594 06:39 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    as much as I hate copying ETH stuff... I will agree that a simple swap interface seems to be all that is needed to kick things off... a fancy UI with candlesticks and order book and all that is not needed.... which seems counter-intiutive, trade with less info available... then again, I think most of the ETH crowd is all about just rushing into projects and doesnt' really care about the history of an asset, etc.... or, at least, don't feel the need to see that information at the time of purchase.
  • @589717099 #64595 06:41 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    you dont have to copy it, it just has to be very very VERY similar
  • @589717099 #64596 06:41 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    i mean, very simple xd
  • @589717099 #64597 06:42 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    look at 1inch for example, very similar but not exactly the same
  • @589717099 #64598 06:42 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    it even has charts but implemente differently
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64594 #64599 06:43 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    The less you see, the better it is
  • @ffmad #64600 06:43 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    It's like asset creation
  • @589717099 #64601 06:43 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    if charts are one click away instead of showig all the time, that would be nice, nicer if are charts direct from tradingview
  • @jdogresorg #64602 06:44 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Yep I got ya... for the freewallet.io desktop DEX interface, I copied the poloniex trading interface... could write up a simple 1-page exchange/swap tool... but would need to get an external wallet (like freeport) to handle signing a transaction and broadcasting...... once we have an easy to use wallet like metamask (shit wallet, but easy to use, made for 1-click people), pretty easy to start building impressive stuff
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64601 #64603 06:45 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    would prolly do something similar to justswap.io..... landing page is just an exchange interface... connects to wallet to pull down balances list... and users can click to some external page to see the market data
  • @589717099 #64604 06:47 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    if theres some way to.. bridge? uniswap and XCP, that would be mind blowing, imagin what kind of attention would bring to any platform being able to move between BTC, ETH, USDT freely, people with deep pockets would probably love this
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #64603 #64605 06:50 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    yea, thats the right kind of UI
  • @jdogresorg #64606 06:50 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I'm not interested in building a bridge... i'm a maxi... BTC and CP... but, if someone else wants to do that, go for it... some people would use it, seen it mentioned here a few times.
  • @jdogresorg #64607 06:51 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    am definitely interested in building an easier to use DEX interface tho... and a single 1-page swap seems like a good place to start 🙂
  • @303662915 #64608 06:52 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I'm sorry, I meant to say Bittex
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64604 #64609 06:53 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Need to have some centralization
  • @303662915 #64610 06:53 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Bittrex
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64543 #64611 06:53 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I like hearing all ideas, unpopular or not. I’d be opposed to this one. People bought on the premise supply was locked.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64610 #64612 06:53 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    It's been a very long time
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64610 #64613 06:54 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Based on Bittrex and Polos announcement, you forfeited your right to your XCP I believe
  • @ffmad #64614 06:54 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Bittrex likes to keep shit like XRP even with SEC on it but removes legit things like XCP or XMR
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64614 #64615 06:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Sec made them delist XCP. This isn’t a public fact, just my opinion.
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #64606 #64616 06:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    i'm just thinkin what could caught attention to XCP, that would be something hard to let pass, no more wBTC but BTC itself, again people with money would love it an CEXs will want to offer the asset that made it possible
  • @ffmad #64617 06:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    How much XCP is still hold by bittrex and polo?
  • @XCERXCP #64618 06:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    500,000
  • @XCERXCP #64619 06:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Around
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64615 #64620 06:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I don't believe this
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64620 #64628 06:56 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Ok. Yes, what would be the reasson for both polo and bit to delist at same time
  • @XCERXCP #64631 06:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    And legally their not allowed to keep people XCP if they request withdraw.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64629 #64632 06:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    No
  • @ffmad #64635 06:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Volume was higher than a lot of shitcoins
  • @XCERXCP #64636 06:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Can’t legally claim customer forfeit rights to asset
  • @ffmad #64637 06:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    That are still listed
  • @589717099 #64638 06:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    a real use case for XCP would be the best case, but also will take a lot of time, in the other hand if XCP probes that it can get the job donde maybe real use cases woul start coming
  • @XCERXCP #64639 06:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    And if you owned an exchange and your competitor was delisting a certain coin, wouldn’t you keep it around?
  • @XCERXCP #64640 06:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    To try to get some of their customers
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64639 #64641 06:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    If you're US exchange too, maybe not
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64625 #64642 06:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    correct, volume was low, but XCP was scrubbed from polo and bittrex at the same time as a bunch of other coins were dropped specifically because there was no guidance on if the coin was going to be seen as a security or not.... only the exchanges know for 100% certain why they dropped XCP, but the data seems to line up more with dropping for legal reasons (possibly a security) than due to low volume. Polo still had 20-30k of daily volume when they shut down... so enough to support them keeping the listing.
  • @589717099 #64643 06:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    think at some point that japanese exchange issued their own token on XCP, but later they discarded it for ETH, that was kinda sad
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64642 #64644 06:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Exactly
  • @303662915 #64645 06:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    So basically forfeited XCP can never be recovered
  • @jdogresorg #64646 06:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    only the exchange can answer that for you
  • @ffmad #64647 06:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    And XCP isn't a security, not centralized, no ICO
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64645 #64648 06:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Well they can’t legally take it from you, but the government can
  • @jdogresorg #64649 06:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    there is no feature to retrieve XCP from wallets that you do not own... so only way to get your XCP back is to ask the exchange
  • @589717099 #64650 06:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    maybe they bring it back..
  • @XCERXCP #64651 07:00 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    XCP on polo and bittrex belongs to us gov currently
  • @303662915 #64652 07:00 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Bittrex says they want .25BTC to recover XCP
  • @krostue #64653 07:00 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    For that much they should just relist it then
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64647 #64654 07:00 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    100% agree with you... but, at the time XCP was delisted, the SEC was hitting projects and exchanges left and right with legal cases, pentalties, fees, etc... better to err on the side of caution as an exchange... and only keep coins where oyu have a clear letter from some official saying the coin is not a security... without that, some risk... easier for an exchange to just drop the coin than take the risk... just my opinion 🙂
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #64607 #64655 07:01 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    thats great, dont forget the issuance tab : P
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64654 #64656 07:02 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Not only that, polo and bitrex were barred from us shortly after
  • @XCERXCP #64657 07:02 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    So no reasson for exchanges to drop xcp if they were getting kicked out of us unless forced
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64654 #64658 07:02 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    It's also why I'm still bullish on XCP, SEC won't say it's a security, contrary to a lot of projects
  • @XCERXCP #64659 07:02 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Why not just bring XCP back after out of us market?
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64657 #64660 07:04 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Do they still have any XCP tokens?
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64660 #64661 07:04 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Yes, any XCP tokens held by exchanges after they delisted XCP are owned by the exchange... the only way to get at those XCP is to work with the exchange.
  • @ffmad #64662 07:11 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Listed*
  • @ffmad #64663 07:11 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Xcp based tokens*
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64660 #64664 07:13 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Yes... exchanges earned XCP fees on every trade, so they hold some of their own XCP.. plus they hold XCP of users who failed to withdraw from their exchange before withdrawls were disabled.
  • @ffmad #64665 07:14 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Yeah I know, sorry I wasn't clear. What I meant is, do these exchanges still have Counterparty based tokens?
  • @589717099 #64666 07:16 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    if they are asking that much for his tokens could be that the r given more value to XCP than the market does?
  • @ffmad #64667 07:16 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Because one of the reason I also saw at the time of delist was the fact it was difficult to host Counterparty node and got bored
  • @jdogresorg #64668 07:16 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Bittrex and Polo... I don't think so... they had XCP based tokens for a while... STORJ, COVAL, FLDC... I think all of the XCP based tokens ahve been dropped from them at this point
  • @ffmad #64669 07:17 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    So they deleted it with the reason "security", but really wanted to get rid of XCP and bitcoin fees
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64667 #64670 07:21 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    yep... indexd made running CP much more intensive... but it was needed cuz native bitcoin client wouldn't keep a running index of address balances, etc..... this new release (working on it the past 3 months, should be out this next week or two) replaces indexd with addrindexrs which makes it MUCH easier to run... plus we have spent a bunch of time working on making sure all the existing features are solid/working... which means that support for segwit addresses will finally be working in all areas/features.... you will finally be able to setup a dispeners on a segwit address and payments to that dispenser will be detected... this is a big deal since segwit addresses require a much lower tx fee than traidtional addresses.... plus we added a feature to open dispeners on an empty/new address.... to save the time of transferring assets to the new address and setting up the dispenser... now you can setup a dispenser on a new/empty address using a different address which has the desired asset (moves asset to address and sets up dispenser in a single transaction)... point is, CP is going the opposite way now... getting much easier to run a node.. and getting features much more stable 🙂
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #64670 #64671 07:21 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    That's great 👍
  • @ffmad #64672 07:22 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Will make it way easier for exchanges
  • @ffmad #64673 07:22 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    And for us community users too, will look at setting up a node again
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64669 #64674 07:23 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    withdraw fees for XCP were/are a real pain..... who wants to pay a BTC fee for every withdrawl?.... we wrote send memos and MPMA batching to help with this issue.... so now users can deposit directly to hotwallets using a memo... vs depositing to a custom exchange address which is then moved to the hotwallet (2 tx)..... we also allow users to do batching of sends, which will reduce costs even further.... instead of paying 1tx fee for every withdraw... now can batch them and pay 1tx fee to send out to hundreds of addresses... just like bitcoins sendmany 🙂
  • @jdogresorg #64675 07:23 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    https://counterparty.io/docs/exchange_integration/
    Exchange Integration | Counterparty

    Developers/Notes_and_Tutorials/exchange_integration.md

  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64673 #64676 07:26 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Give it a week or two until we put out the new release... 🙂
  • @ffmad #64677 07:26 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    👍
  • @XCERXCP #64678 07:31 PM, 02 Jan 2021

    giphy (2).mp4

  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #64543 #64679 08:57 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I pitched the idea to open the burn up indefinitely at some point, since it was being delisted and buying off the dex was not so easy peasy. Why not be able to send sats to 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr and then get credited with XCP? The price could be set to float too, so it's not locking in a ceiling to its value.
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #37456 #64680 08:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Here it is
  • @c0rnh0li0 #64681 09:02 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I don't see the number 2,648,755 as such a sacred number to uphold like 21,000,000
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #37474 #64682 09:04 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    ...but there was this
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64557 #64683 11:21 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    How would diluting the token translate into a price pump? If anything, it would only serve to reduce the value of the tokens.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64684 #64685 11:55 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Original community members did not participate on the premises of being diluted.
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64684 #64686 11:58 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Your ideas to generate "news" are bad ideas. News about how XCP is diluting its holders and abandoning the fundamental premise upon which it was created will not help get listed on centralized exchanges. That doesn't even make any kind of sense.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64686 #64687 11:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    I agree. But I like discussing ideas 😝
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64687 #64688 11:59 PM, 02 Jan 2021
    Me too. That was me discussing ideas.
  • 03 January 2021 (12 messages)
  • @Superart #64689 12:00 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    .....discussing how bad they are.....LOLOL
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64690 #64692 12:18 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    Exchanges have interest in listing CP now. They just want a listing fee to do it.
  • @jdogresorg #64693 12:26 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    Can confirm
  • @heunland #64697 02:22 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    I can tell you from direct experience trying to get some tokens listed with a bunch of centralized exchanges that their main concern is 1) volume, 2) if this is a US exchange, that you can produce evidence in form of a legal opinion specific to the jurisdiction where the exchange is registered clearly showing your token is not a security (this will set you back multiple thousands of dollars for each legal opinion), and even minor exchanges will also ask for a quite ridiculously high listing fee and probably additionally, ask you to give them a sizeable amount of your token so they can do promos like airdrops etc to celebrate your listing (they are used to ICO coins having plenty of funds to throw around). In addition, even if you have a mid-volume coin, they may require you to engage (pay) market makers before they consider any listing. They are NOT interested in gimmicks such as renaming your coin, other than if you decide to turn this into an ICO or coin migration run on their exchange (generating them more income) and will be rather concerned if you change anything about your original coin issuance scheme, especially if this involves changing the total number of coins that can ever come into circulation. In fact, some exchanges will periodically ask if any such changes are under consideration once you already have your token listed.
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64670 #64702 03:10 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    this is great :)
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64697 #64705 03:32 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    Nice info!
  • @589717099 #64708 03:42 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    thats weird, XCP volume has been the highest its been in ages lately
  • @589717099 #64709 03:43 AM, 03 Jan 2021
    maybe someone accumulating for exit pump or posterior exchange add?
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #64697 #64731 01:26 PM, 03 Jan 2021
    A lot of your points here favor doing a burn period now while exchanges are not a current concern.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #64732 01:41 PM, 03 Jan 2021
    How about building a Counterparty tipping bot for telegram? That’d enable off-chain transactions/trades. The multi asset send ability would make it relatively cheap for users to load up their accounts. Rooms with multiple tipping bots would allow trading XCP or other assets for different cryptos like Dogecoin.

    Happy 12th Birthday Bitcoin!
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64732 #64737 04:55 PM, 03 Jan 2021
    Going to make a Twitter tip bot
  • @516353160 #64742 08:46 PM, 03 Jan 2021
    970x
  • 04 January 2021 (55 messages)
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64760 #64761 12:30 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    I've been speaking with certain key influencers, and they have agreed to pump my graffiti coin project once it's ready to be pumped.
  • @Superart #64762 12:30 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Can't disclose who they are right now, but you've heard of them.
  • @Superart #64767 12:40 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    I'm just having a hard time figuring out how I want to market it.
  • @Superart #64768 12:40 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    The pandemic really fucked us up
  • @Superart #64769 12:40 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Our marketing scheme was completely dependent on cooperation with the city of Miami
  • @Superart #64773 01:40 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    So we're kind of stagnant right now, trying to figure out how we want to proceed with it
  • @Superart #64774 01:42 AM, 04 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-04_01-42-44.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo #64776 02:35 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    who made rare.estate?
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64776 #64777 02:37 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    oh @staRpauSe you here hehe
  • @OoakosiMo #64778 02:38 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @staRpauSe #64779 02:38 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    I am here but not allowed to post gifs until 03.02.21
  • @OoakosiMo #64780 02:38 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    oh
  • @staRpauSe ↶ Reply to #64776 #64781 02:38 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    my question remains 🤣
  • @OoakosiMo #64782 02:38 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    long time
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64781 #64783 02:42 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    someone here might know :)
  • @OoakosiMo #64784 02:49 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @OoakosiMo #64788 02:52 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @OoakosiMo #64789 02:52 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    so cute
  • @OoakosiMo #64790 02:52 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @heunland #64791 02:53 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64779 #64792 02:53 AM, 04 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-04_02-53-56.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo #64793 02:54 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    btw i set up a dispenser for my the anting mafiawars card but it is less than 5 usd each here just a bit of support to https://xchain.io/tx/de38e28640b2bbbe2ed30dcc31d187e24b1819ce5512e3ce94bd0fcd7d5ff1d1
  • @jdogresorg #64794 02:54 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    You should be good now
  • @OoakosiMo #64795 02:54 AM, 04 Jan 2021

    THEANTING.gif.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo #64796 02:54 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    https://mafiawars.io/card/THEANTING
    Basic Information
    Name : ANTING-ANTING
    Supply : 100 (7 Holders)
    Statistics Information
    Attack : 0
    Defense : 100
    Heat : 0
    Income : $0.00
    Upkeep : $100.00
    Price Information
    MAFIACASH : 0.00000000 ($0.00)
    PEPECASH : 0.00000000 ($0.00)
    XCP : 0.00000000 ($0.00)
  • @OoakosiMo #64797 02:55 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    if in mafia cash it is just 11,555 😁😁
  • @XCERXCP #64798 02:57 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    IMG_5854.MP4
  • @XCERXCP #64799 02:57 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    NFT.software just updated. Some bugs, no sends yet either
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64799 #64800 02:57 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    👀👀❤️
  • @OoakosiMo #64801 02:58 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    wow
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64799 #64802 02:59 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    oh it is for phone i tried the link in desktp
  • @XCERXCP #64803 02:59 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Should work on desktop
  • @XCERXCP #64804 03:00 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Works on my Mac
  • @OoakosiMo #64805 03:00 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    should i register or not yet
  • @XCERXCP #64806 03:00 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Yea go for it that be awesome
  • @OoakosiMo #64807 03:01 AM, 04 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-04_03-01-03.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64806 #64808 03:01 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    cool oaky
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64807 #64809 03:04 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Yea I have some work to do on the desktop version. Should work fine, layout may be a little funky
  • @heunland #64810 03:04 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Are you gonna have separate sections for different projects' NFTs, like Spells of Genesis, Rare Pepes, Mafiacash etc
  • @XCERXCP #64811 03:05 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Yes, definatley
  • @staRpauSe ↶ Reply to #64792 #64812 03:06 AM, 04 Jan 2021

    mp4.mp4

  • @heunland #64813 03:07 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    What these folks on Spells of Genesis are constantly asking for is an easy way to trade their cards, they have some lame thing for their ethereum based NFTs but since Koji no longer works with them on Book of Orbs/Indisquare, they seem to have neglected updating how to trade the original Counterparty NFTs or any NFTs they blockchainized out of the ingame cards. I have told them several times that they could be using dispensers but they dont seem to pick up on that
  • @heunland #64814 03:08 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    They have some wallet called Casa Tookan which supposedly should work but I can't get that thing to do anything useful
  • @heunland #64815 03:10 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    it would be nice to have some easy way to trade those cards for the Bitcrystals, right now they are not really allowing any easy way to do so unless you go back to freewallet and post offers there or on the original counterwallet, but then you dont get to see the artwork of the cards. What they need is a copy of rarepepewallet but for Spells of Genesis
  • @heunland #64816 03:10 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Rarepepewallet was my all time favorite for trading cards
  • @heunland #64817 03:11 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    seems the artwork of the cards doesnt load so well anymore though
  • @heunland #64818 03:14 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    I think having a decent card trading wallet would be much more useful to get Counterparty moving again than any token burning schemes. Rarepepewallet with sections for each project, Mafiacash, Bitcorns, SoG, Rare Pepes would be ideal. And this should include trading vs the ingame currency of each game as well as XCP
  • @heunland #64819 03:15 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    ok just my 2 satoshis. Happy 12th bitcoin Birthday everyone!
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64818 #64822 03:25 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    Awesome. I agree. NFT.software is centralized so all sends will be free and instant. But I’m not there yet, but the goal is to make it super easy and fast.
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64814 #64824 03:35 AM, 04 Jan 2021
    I've tried to use toucan before, and couldn't get it to work either. Which is unfortunate because it's listed as a supported wallet on the CP website
  • @104473096 ↶ Reply to #64838 #64851 12:08 PM, 04 Jan 2021
    Currently focused on hazama
  • @104473096 #64852 12:09 PM, 04 Jan 2021
    We're doing a revamp of the underlying tech to better accommodate the use cases, prolly releasing this month
  • @104473096 #64854 02:09 PM, 04 Jan 2021
    i don't have much info on the financials tbqh
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64852 #64855 02:14 PM, 04 Jan 2021
    👊 awesome.
  • @104473096 #64857 02:37 PM, 04 Jan 2021
    Sure thing
  • 05 January 2021 (13 messages)
  • @staRpauSe #64877 12:58 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    Gave Counterparty XCP a shout out in my latest write up 😘 https://starpause.substack.com/p/state-of-the-mint-2021
    State of the Mint 2021

    Anecdotal overview of chains and platforms for NFT art. 

  • @Superart #64879 02:40 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    Is it possible to do auctions on CP? I assume the answer is no, so as a follow up, what would it take?
  • @raretruck #64880 02:49 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    An auctioneer and an audience with money
  • @raretruck #64881 02:49 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    And stuff to auction
  • @raretruck #64882 02:50 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    We've done it on bitcorn through telegram chat
  • @raretruck #64883 02:51 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    The timestamps in chat help with bidding, too
  • @Superart #64884 03:00 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    I know how to do an auction.
  • @Superart #64885 03:00 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    I mean on chain.
  • @ffmad #64886 10:27 AM, 05 Jan 2021
    https://twitter.com/jerallaire/status/1346233132396257282?s=19
    Jeremy Allaire

    1/ Breaking major news from US Treasury OCC, the largest US banking regulator (@USOCC), with new guidance allowing US banks to use public blockchains and dollar stablecoins as a settlement infrastructure in the US financial system. occ.gov/news-issuances…

  • @OoakosiMo #64887 12:24 PM, 05 Jan 2021
    https://twitter.com/OoakosiM/status/1346431952170094593?s=20
    🌴𝕞ⓞ𝔥𝐈ήι 🔌🔌🔌😉 OoakosiMo 🐢モヒニ🌴 मोहिनी

    There is one left out of 5 editions tokenized via @CounterpartyXCP . Anyone please take this, NAME UR PRICE any as long as in btc or xcp get it get it, still anxious today i dunno why, just get it get it anyone. Need have COUNTERPARTY wallet address #BTC https://t.co/Bve0esRkKn

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64887 #64888 02:14 PM, 05 Jan 2021

    animation.gif.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64888 #64889 04:17 PM, 05 Jan 2021

    video (1).mp4

  • @920062829 #64895 06:15 PM, 05 Jan 2021
    Hello everyone
    How are you all doing?
  • 06 January 2021 (68 messages)
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #64897 12:29 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    https://twitter.com/MJatmanov/status/1346610290918633475
    Max Jatmanov

    In time , when the transaction fees of ETHerium are large I will remind You all about Realy Rare NFTs. They all here - https://t.co/fQSGW4S6L9 - Realy first ones assets on BTC Also , when BTC is so high - it is time to buy cheap Pepecash in dispenser ;)- https://t.co/tBoA6RfpBV https://t.co/IM1hAwzGle

  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64897 #64898 12:39 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Nice!
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe ↶ Reply to #64898 #64899 12:39 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    🎩
  • @XCERXCP #64900 02:15 AM, 06 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-06_02-15-21.jpg
  • @XCERXCP #64901 02:15 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Should have this ready tomorrow
  • @XCERXCP #64902 02:17 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    It will look something like this, but from the NFT.Software Twitter account that doesn’t exist yet
  • @XCERXCP #64903 02:17 AM, 06 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-06_02-17-33.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64901 #64904 02:18 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    oh cool
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64904 #64905 02:21 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    You could make a high issuance card to distribute over Twitter. Does your project have a name, I could create a project section for you.
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64905 #64906 02:22 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    i just put for now most as subassets of my MOHINI
  • @OoakosiMo #64907 02:22 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    i didnt think to imagine a project name hehe
  • @OoakosiMo #64908 02:22 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    https://xchain.io/asset/MOHINI._I_WillTakeFive_Please
  • @OoakosiMo #64909 02:22 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    like this one is subasset
  • @OoakosiMo #64910 02:23 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    maybe i can make this a project name https://xchain.io/asset/MOHINI
  • @OoakosiMo #64911 02:23 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    i thought or imagine it is like a collection
  • @OoakosiMo #64912 02:24 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    and have several already that i plan to put subassets under
  • @XCERXCP #64913 02:24 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Do you have a high issuance card you could donate to NFT?
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64913 #64914 02:24 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    i have one that is not yet locked since i try give it to friends
  • @OoakosiMo #64915 02:24 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    it was my 2nd token i think that i tried https://xchain.io/asset/MOHINI.Sincerely_Yours
  • @OoakosiMo #64916 02:25 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    or i can make one
  • @OoakosiMo #64917 02:25 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    for it
  • @XCERXCP #64918 02:28 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Ok this is the donation wallet. Everything is donation right now to get assets into NFT. Technically, it’s basically a centralized exchange or wallet so I can’t take user funds and hold them on behalf of the user. https://xchain.io/address/13YAAn6fYmg9ypNMc1qEcmXTGAudoXEzd2
  • @OoakosiMo #64919 02:29 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    cool mean i can send editions there that i want
  • @XCERXCP #64920 02:30 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    And we don’t have withdraws either yet until I figure out what I can and can’t withdraw to users.
  • @OoakosiMo #64921 02:31 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    i like experiments i usually a guinea pg
  • @OoakosiMo #64922 02:31 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    lol
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64918 #64923 02:31 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    saving this will sent some tomorrow or later today
  • @XCERXCP #64924 02:32 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Ok cool no rush, send me a DM when you do and I’ll add. Sunday is cheapest for sends.
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64924 #64925 02:32 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    ooh okay and thank you this is very cool
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64925 #64926 02:32 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Thanks for the support 👍
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64926 #64927 02:33 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    ▪️
  • @OoakosiMo #64928 02:33 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    welcome
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64776 #64930 04:24 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    cool i can see my tokens
    https://rare.estate/?btc=1F6Vyig9kBGc5Buvy9JyuV8d3jEiPKxWUX&
  • @OoakosiMo #64931 04:24 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    not all but this is cool
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #64934 05:58 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    Here is some my rares on XCP (also you can look ETH NFTs there) - https://rare.estate/?eth=0x3E01337a171c5e71d70db297F2f796A40F4d6d1D&btc=17hxupddtL5z3RusNNgUUmK1EQiCXUhe6z&
    DM me for offers ;)
  • @OoakosiMo #64938 06:22 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    testing this rare estate viewer this is my counterpartyxcp bitcoin nft's collection

    https://rare.estate/?btc=1F6Vyig9kBGc5Buvy9JyuV8d3jEiPKxWUX&

    Rare Estate — Mozilla Firefox 2021-01-06 14-17-03.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64940 #64941 06:46 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    👀😁 my works not appear just two appeared heh but is good to see the works i got collected from others hehe
  • @OoakosiMo #64942 06:57 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    omg sorry this is art okay and counterparty tokens so please no one kindly insult me by calling it spam i wil get hurt . sounds funny the way im saying it but just gettng carried away and excited about finding these ways to show my collection in one spot even if not yet complete i am currently making simple html for the ones i created just taking so long im kinda stupid and slow grasp most of the time

    https://digirare.com/collectors/1F6Vyig9kBGc5Buvy9JyuV8d3jEiPKxWUX

    1F6Vyig9kBGc5Buvy9JyuV8d3jEiPKxWUX_—_Mozilla_Firefox_2021_01_06.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #64946 #64947 10:57 AM, 06 Jan 2021
    hehe yes and most are cautious to click links so i just screenrecorded my browsing and while listening to music
  • @L_vs_D ↶ Reply to #64903 #64957 03:58 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    nothing is clear yet, but already very interesting 😄
  • @589717099 #64960 04:26 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    https://twitter.com/DegenSpartan/status/1346854143218970625
    찌 G 跻 じ ⚡️ 🔑

    🧐🤔 https://t.co/0BNYqALu6V

  • @589717099 #64961 04:27 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    thats Shapeshift
  • @589717099 #64962 04:28 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    maybe getting XCP listed there would be good? hah
  • @krostue #64967 05:46 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    thanks for your contribution
  • @krostue #64968 05:49 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    this list of yours, were these things the foundation said they would do with the excess time and money they have?
  • @krostue #64969 05:50 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    did you have an agreement formed 1.5 years ago for these objectives to be done for you in exchange of payment?
  • @krostue #64970 05:50 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    how can i word this?
  • @Nickst2 ↶ Reply to #64969 #64971 06:00 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    This is a ridiculous answer. Why don't you let someone from the foundation answer if you have nothing constructive to say.
  • @krostue #64972 06:06 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    oh, so you could point me to the roadmap where it has this list mentioned?
  • @krostue #64973 06:07 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    "his" list
  • @krostue #64976 06:12 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    infighting and blame for the diffusion of responsibility is a rediculous approach and got a more thought-provoking response.
    im sorry but i will not continue harmonizing with the negative narrative. my intention is to be less reactive and more active this new year.
  • @krostue #64977 06:13 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    @ChiefSamyaza are you familiar with the CIP process?
    what would you pay to see done?
    thanks
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64966 #64981 06:23 PM, 06 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-06_18-23-31.jpg
  • @XCERXCP #64982 06:23 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    Droplister gave me 1 vote 😀
  • @104473096 #64983 06:24 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    too many ryans
  • @XCERXCP #64984 06:25 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    I would like to see the foundation at least do a quarterly meeting where they discuss anything CP related. Even if not in an official way, just off the cusp
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #64983 #64985 06:25 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    🙃
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #64971 #64989 07:15 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    Agree. I too would like to get a status update. What has been accomplished? AFAIK, the community elected them for a year... and that year has come and gone... so... not even sure if a foundation exists anymore or if it is just a LARP at this point..... Getting a list of what progress has been made and what has been accomplished would go a long way. 🙂
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #64976 #64990 07:34 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    The question posed didn't seem to be hostile to me. I would also be interested in learning what (if anything) the Foundation has accomplished, or tried to accomplish, or intends to try to accomplish in the future. If the answer is "nothing", that's fine too, but I would like to know that if it's the case.

    If the problem is lack of resources, perhaps the Foundation can put out something that outlines in detail what resources they would want/need and what their plans would be for using those resources?
  • @589717099 #64991 08:36 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    +1
  • @XCERXCP #64992 08:40 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    Even if the foundation said SEC laws are a shit show and our best action is do nothing at this point for the protection of the foundation. I think Bench has said this a few times.

    But a monthly podcast or something of any of community members chatting would be cool
  • @krostue #64993 10:00 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    I believe that the current topic leans itself to justify anyone else to weigh in on what their personal expectations are for any upcoming announcement from the xcp foundation
  • @Superart #64994 10:05 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    I have no expectations or requests or demands or anything. I wouldnjust like to hear from them. Anything. Even if it's just "hi".
  • @Rob_RS1000 ↶ Reply to #64934 #64995 10:09 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    Explain how u buy and where using xcp... not noob just never looked into it. Link or quick explanation- I want some Pepe cards😂 not sure why
  • @Rob_RS1000 #64996 10:12 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    You need to buy with pepecash?
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe ↶ Reply to #64995 #64997 10:12 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    you can buy xcp for btc in dex
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe ↶ Reply to #64996 #64998 10:12 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    yes
  • @DefinitelyN0tMe #64999 10:12 PM, 06 Jan 2021
    mostly they are for pepecash
  • 07 January 2021 (12 messages)
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65010 #65011 01:37 AM, 07 Jan 2021
    I don't think there is any real difference between auto renew and auto expire in this case.
  • @XCERXCP #65013 02:23 AM, 07 Jan 2021
    https://xchain.io/asset/CONSPIRATARD
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65012 #65017 05:46 AM, 07 Jan 2021
    I get the feeling that the Foundation may currently be in a state, such that, if someone were to come around and declare that they were now the Fondation and started doing things, they would become the recognized Foundation.
  • @krostue #65031 01:18 PM, 07 Jan 2021
    Please don't encourage more LARPing
  • @XCERXCP #65033 03:02 PM, 07 Jan 2021
    @benchbtc @TitaniumP has the foundation been in contact?
  • @XCERXCP #65034 03:06 PM, 07 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-07_15-06-15.jpg
  • @XCERXCP #65035 03:06 PM, 07 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-07_15-06-18.jpg
  • @XCERXCP #65036 03:06 PM, 07 Jan 2021
    Good news, I might get banned from Twitter today 😆
  • @XCERXCP #65037 03:12 PM, 07 Jan 2021
    I might have to take out some ads some I’m a paying account. Quid pro quo
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65032 #65046 04:11 PM, 07 Jan 2021
    dualing dualizing blualing dueling feeling twinkling dualizering
  • @OoakosiMo #65047 04:11 PM, 07 Jan 2021
    =[÷_÷]=
  • @OoakosiMo #65052 05:33 PM, 07 Jan 2021

    mp4.mp4

  • 08 January 2021 (201 messages)
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65075 #65078 01:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    For spamming Twitter with free XCP assets 😆. I’ll open up slow.
  • @raretruck #65080 01:55 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    The XCP Foundation is a LARP change my mind
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65078 #65081 01:55 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    lol
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65080 #65082 01:57 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    sHoW mE tEh eViduNcE
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65080 #65083 01:58 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    first time i see what this larp means and seems i agree to this statement lol. if i can share that personally i think now real life and like online interactions all are larp and if i may say so any talk is spam since at time of death all these will not really matter
  • @OoakosiMo #65084 01:58 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    if this is waht it means then i agree

    photo_2021-01-08_01-58-58.jpg
  • @589717099 #65085 02:05 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    last thing we knew about the foundation was that it was created xd
  • @OoakosiMo #65086 02:05 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    why was it even crated
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65083 #65087 02:05 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Living itself is larp. Everything is larp. The university is going to get sucked up in a black hole a trillion years from now, the universe is spam.
  • @OoakosiMo #65088 02:05 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    were ther many
  • @589717099 #65089 02:05 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    to larp i assume
  • @OoakosiMo #65090 02:06 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    what else is there to do if one cant freely assume
  • @OoakosiMo #65091 02:06 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    and ask
  • @OoakosiMo #65092 02:06 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    questions
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65089 #65093 02:06 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    No wonder you managed to keep so well informed
  • @589717099 #65094 02:07 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    i dont even care about the foundation, have nothing to judge about them
  • @krostue #65095 02:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    4x4 karen is typing
  • @589717099 #65096 02:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    lol
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65094 #65097 02:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Can't judge the foundations actions if they never act
  • @raretruck #65098 02:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    mp4.mp4

  • @589717099 #65099 02:09 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    u are part of the foundation? ive seen you get defensive when the topic is bringed out, everytime, but never added something to the topic either
  • @589717099 #65100 02:09 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    lol
  • @589717099 #65101 02:09 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    anyway, idk
  • @krostue #65102 02:11 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    i just dont think people take the time to understand. i like to challenge perspectives... and speaking IN baseless absolutes (like `never`) is worth ignoring. so i will going further
  • @589717099 #65103 02:16 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    i see
  • @589717099 #65104 02:21 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    just went to the forum after ages, cause activty stoped for weeks and i stopped lurking
  • @589717099 #65105 02:21 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    https://counterpartytalk.org/t/ann-xcp-foundation-to-host-first-public-forum-feb-9th-2020/5793/9
    [ANN] XCP Foundation to Host First Public Forum, Feb 9th 2020

    After being elected by the community several months ago the newly-elected foundation is happy to announce some progress that it has made recently. after several months of due diligence to determine what type of legal entity the foundation will become. We are happy to announce that we have hired on retainer legal council to set up the foundation as a completely legal entity. By becoming an official and legal, foundation, we will be able to effectively support, maintain and develop the CounterPart...

  • @589717099 #65106 02:22 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    to anyone wondering about the foundation theres an audio of their last, and i think only, meeting, almost a year ago
  • @589717099 #65107 02:23 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    thanks to @wampum for challenging my perspective or whatver xd
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65107 #65108 02:26 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Much appreciation to you for making the effort in digging up a link for everyone :D
  • @589717099 #65109 02:26 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    lol
  • @krostue #65110 02:27 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    I believe the foundation should make a statement before February 9th 2021
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65110 #65111 02:27 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Or better yet have a meeting where people attend, including all board members
  • @krostue #65112 02:28 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Thanks in advance for your thoughtful insight
  • @589717099 #65113 02:29 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    will have to hear the first one to know what to expect for the next one coming
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65113 #65114 02:30 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    It seems at that point you'll be more informed than all of the recent responders
  • @589717099 #65115 02:30 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    just 1 post from the foundation in 11 months still not that great though
  • @krostue #65116 02:30 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Yeah
  • @krostue #65117 02:31 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    I want my money back
  • @OoakosiMo #65118 02:31 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    if you complaining about not getting paid then dont do it people just asking what was done if you took that responsibility
  • @OoakosiMo #65119 02:32 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    dont need to be defensive
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #65117 #65120 02:32 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    a went what was at the time all in on XCP, but nah, i'm not asking for anything
  • @589717099 #65121 02:33 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    just sayin what i see, i see no actity from the foundation, i see 1 post in 11 months
  • @589717099 #65122 02:33 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    whats the problem? none at all, dont care about it, care more about the devs
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65117 #65123 02:33 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    This sarcastic statement was to insinuate that I had paid the foundation money with the expectations of specific things to get done. This is not the character people are trying to take on?
  • @589717099 #65124 02:33 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    wish i had the needs to help there but i dont
  • @589717099 #65125 02:34 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    dont think so
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65122 #65126 02:34 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    +1
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65124 #65127 02:35 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    kim jong un says no ?
  • @589717099 #65128 02:36 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    leader always good, no problems with him never
  • @589717099 #65129 02:36 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    great* leader
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65085 #65130 02:36 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Was it actually, or did they just have that one meeting where they talked about intending to create it at some point hopefully?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65105 #65131 02:38 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    "please feel free to ask questions or make comments on Soundcloud or here"

    I don't see any responses after that. Is it just me?
  • @OoakosiMo #65132 02:38 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    i just have this observations that foundations become easy playground for politicizing and clouting and after a while corruption not always but usuallly it gets
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65131 #65133 02:40 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    slapping a fancy admin title doesnt mean anything when the way to respond to people is condescending and defensive you need to be aware you need help in that dpartment i say this just personal opinion if anyone cares just putting it out
  • @OoakosiMo #65134 02:41 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    im just a newb in crypto
  • @OoakosiMo #65135 02:41 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    but im not new in seeing organisations or foundations
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65131 #65136 02:41 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Is there a place where I can go to learn more about what the foundation does, has done, or intends to do?
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65131 #65137 02:41 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Do you want to be a leader or do you want people to tell you what to do? I'm confused
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #65130 #65138 02:41 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    im trying to find out, listening to thi rn
  • @589717099 #65139 02:41 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    https://counterpartytalk.org/t/ann-xcp-foundation-to-host-first-public-forum-feb-9th-2020/5793/9
    [ANN] XCP Foundation to Host First Public Forum, Feb 9th 2020

    After being elected by the community several months ago the newly-elected foundation is happy to announce some progress that it has made recently. after several months of due diligence to determine what type of legal entity the foundation will become. We are happy to announce that we have hired on retainer legal council to set up the foundation as a completely legal entity. By becoming an official and legal, foundation, we will be able to effectively support, maintain and develop the CounterPart...

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65135 #65140 02:42 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    i have real pro and front seat experience what im saying and have helped pushed some underground efforts and some just turn to be dissapointments and some bloom to be great
  • @krostue #65141 02:43 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    This very important nuance of action instead of reaction is something that I'm personally working on. I do not wish to be reactionary, no matter how absurd the claims may be. anyone in this room is welcome to message me if they would like to share a meaningful conversation
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65137 #65143 02:43 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    You're not confused

    You're trying very hard to manipulate the narrative
  • @krostue #65145 02:44 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    I suggest the most outspoken voices in this room run for office the next time it's open
  • @OoakosiMo #65146 02:44 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    wow
  • @589717099 ↶ Reply to #65140 #65147 02:45 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    u are not supposed to ask like that, you are supposed to know about the foundation in the only acceptable manner that exist
  • @krostue #65148 02:45 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Passionate competent people should participate
  • @krostue #65149 02:45 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    For that matter anyone can start their own foundation. Or their own counterparty. Or their own Bitcoin
  • @krostue #65150 02:46 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    I seem to remember five people being elected
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65147 #65151 02:46 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    👀✍️ im slow
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65141 #65152 02:47 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Does the meaningful conversation have to be in private?
  • @krostue #65153 02:47 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Are you part of action or reaction?
  • @Superart #65154 02:47 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    I don't know?
  • @589717099 #65155 02:50 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    was making an analogy but it was just so absurd lol
  • @589717099 #65156 02:52 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    anyway, it seems theres a theme that should not be ask about here, kinda funny
  • @OoakosiMo #65157 02:58 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    how to edit zero supply of unlocked asset
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65157 #65158 02:59 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Issue supply
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65158 #65159 02:59 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    oh okay thank you
  • @OoakosiMo #65160 02:59 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    on it
  • @OoakosiMo #65161 03:01 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    also for example lulu my friend is want to submit to mafiawars card with me but she doesnt have time to set up tokenizing and reading stuff related to the technicality
  • @OoakosiMo #65162 03:02 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    she said she will jsut pay for what i have to pay for
  • @OoakosiMo #65163 03:02 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    and i was thinking can i tokenize and then once she gets own wallet can i send her to be the owner owner
  • @krostue #65164 03:02 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Sounds like a great opportunity to charge a consulting or service fee, imho
  • @OoakosiMo #65165 03:02 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    like not just supplies
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65164 #65166 03:03 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    oh so questions like these not allowed by foundation
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65163 #65167 03:03 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Yes, you can transfer ownership of an asset to another address. Then the owner of that address would be able to issue more of that asset.
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65167 #65168 03:03 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    oh very cool thank you for the info :)
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #65166 #65169 03:03 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Ha
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65169 #65170 03:04 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    i didnt understand your statement and im getting paranooid by you
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65168 #65171 03:04 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    I believe there may even be a way to do it in exchange for payment, but I'm not sure how to set that up in a trust less way.
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65171 #65172 03:06 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    oh is okay she just wanted to make with me and said i should do it on my address
  • @Superart #65173 03:07 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    What you could also do in that case, since your friend trusts you, you can just do it on a completely new address and give her the passports when she is ready to take over.
  • @OoakosiMo #65174 03:07 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    but i was thinking to still do it in a dedicated address and then when she ready or i will just make a new addresss for her and then when she ready she can take them and transfer to new address if she would even care or be bothered to do that lol i dunno it seems she just want we have activity together since we have ongoing big collab also but not rushing and just mainly chit chatting and i was telling her about the theme of mafiawars
  • @Superart #65175 03:07 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    *passwoords
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65173 #65176 03:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    ooh same thought
  • @OoakosiMo #65177 03:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    sent at same time
  • @OoakosiMo #65178 03:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    hehe
  • @Superart #65179 03:08 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    Great minds think alike 😉
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65179 #65182 03:09 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    👀✍️
  • @OoakosiMo #65184 03:52 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    mp4.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65184 #65185 03:52 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    sticker (7).webp
  • @OoakosiMo #65186 03:53 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    my daughter made trashart but she calls them junkart she saw her father for first time but on tv being intevied on tv for junk art lol
  • @OoakosiMo #65187 03:54 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-08_03-54-07.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo #65188 03:54 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-08_03-54-24.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo #65189 03:54 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    haha
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65188 #65190 04:27 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    mp4.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65190 #65191 07:45 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    oh what is ico
  • @OoakosiMo #65192 07:46 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    video (1).mp4

  • @Superart #65193 08:09 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    photo_2021-01-08_08-09-08.jpg
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65193 #65194 08:13 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    ooh I see 😂😂
  • @OoakosiMo #65195 08:13 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    it exists as trsh in coingecko
  • @OoakosiMo #65196 08:13 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    ROBNESS made it as a coin lol
  • @OoakosiMo #65197 08:13 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    $TRSH
  • @OoakosiMo #65198 08:14 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    but just art token and have the website as a CV parcel that exhibit our trashart
  • @OoakosiMo #65199 08:14 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    trsh.capital trash museum link
  • @OoakosiMo #65200 08:15 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    my work in there also was a response tweet asking the trashart haters to strangle me with their bare hands if they hate it so much instead of shit talk about my or our art works
  • @OoakosiMo #65201 09:53 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    MADMONKEY.gif.mp4

  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #65201 #65202 09:53 AM, 08 Jan 2021

    video (1).mp4

  • @OoakosiMo #65207 11:01 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    @wampum fucking gaslighting fuck
  • @OoakosiMo #65208 11:01 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    why
  • @OoakosiMo #65209 11:01 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    why
  • @OoakosiMo #65210 11:02 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    not into gaslighting very much.

    If anyone has an actual accusation of me being deceitful in any way shape or form I would greatly appreciate the feedback as I hold myself to be an being an honest and professional person.

    Thanks
  • @OoakosiMo #65211 11:02 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    professional liar
  • @OoakosiMo #65212 11:03 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    it is fucked up that someone do that to someone that he knows has scizophrenia
  • @OoakosiMo #65213 11:04 AM, 08 Jan 2021
    liar
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #65207 #65214 04:01 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I have mentioned it a few times here, this is not a channel for personal drama to play out, this is a channel about Counterparty and it should generally be kept on topic..... I have disabled the ability for @OoakosiMo to post for a week, hopefully this gives time for perspective and to realize it is poor form to come into a channel and bring your own personal drama and put it on display for others to see.
  • @qasmocb #65215 04:01 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    how does it feel to be all in cpty whilst btc has pumped from 4k to 40k?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65215 #65216 04:09 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Our day is coming, that’s 10x, I’m looking for 250x, 500x, 1000x, 5,000x
  • @krostue #65217 04:10 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I think some of us have been using XCP since btc was $300
  • @jdogresorg #65218 04:10 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I love CP, price of Bitcoin going up does not make me regret anything... just incrases my investment in CP... now that 30 BTC I used to get XCP is now a $1.2 million dollar investment in CP :P..... tho in hindsight, would be nice for the community to have access to a big warchest.
  • @qasmocb #65219 04:16 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    lol
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65218 #65220 04:47 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I feel ya. I’ve been using CP since BTC $180
  • @XCERXCP #65221 04:48 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Don’t regret it either, our time will come. CPs price fall has only allowed me to become a bigger holder than I ever thought possible.
  • @XCERXCP #65222 04:56 PM, 08 Jan 2021

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  • @XCERXCP #65223 04:59 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    You can send CP NFTs to anyone on Twitter via nft.software. You must have the asset in network on the site to send. Even if the Twitter handle person your sending to doesn’t have an NFT.software account, when they create an account and verify their Twitter handle, the NFT will be waiting for them.
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #65222 #65224 04:59 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    How can I withdraw the PEPEONMUSK from nft.software to a wallet of my choosing?
  • @XCERXCP #65225 04:59 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Jdog won’t see his asset until he verifies his Twitter account with us.
  • @XCERXCP #65226 04:59 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Yes, but I’m not there yet
  • @jdogresorg #65227 05:00 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    ok cool... looks neat so far 🙂
  • @krostue #65228 05:00 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    what does fungible mean, xcer?
  • @XCERXCP #65229 05:01 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I need to find the legal aspects of withdraws
  • @krostue #65230 05:01 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    everyone seems to have a different answer. wondering what yours is
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65228 #65231 05:02 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    NFT is just a term. Not divisible and single asset
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65227 #65232 05:02 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Thanks!
  • @XCERXCP #65233 05:02 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    @mikeinspace has the best answer, sats are NFTs. I like that answer.
  • @krostue #65234 05:04 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    just a term
    "interesting"
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65234 #65235 05:05 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    What would you like me to call the pepeonmusk if it’s not an NFT?
  • @krostue #65236 05:09 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    the question was not based on my personal preferences.
    I asked if you know the definition of the word you choose to use.
    not trying to start an argument. just wondering if you know what fungible actually means. no one seems to, so it is nothing against you.
  • @krostue #65237 05:10 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    marketing your efforts using a term that is overused is good seo, i guess
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65237 #65238 05:25 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Considering the domain is NFT.Software, I think I’ll keep using the term NFT
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65233 #65239 05:26 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    If sats are NFTs, I think that means Bitcoin is broken. I don't like that definition.
  • @Superart #65240 05:26 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Sats should be fungible.
  • @Superart #65241 05:26 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    In fact, sats should be the most fungible thing that has ever existed.
  • @krostue #65242 05:27 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    ah, that is not the way bitcoin works. every sat is nonfungible
  • @XCERXCP #65243 05:28 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Non fungible I think as not being to be able to be replaced by another token
  • @XCERXCP #65244 05:28 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    BTC is non fungible, can’t be replaced by LTC.
  • @krostue #65245 05:28 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    when a discussion involves semantics it is borderline on argument. i will digress
  • @XCERXCP #65246 05:32 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    You can say NFT for art where it’s a single token that can’t be interchanged for anything else, or you can go a single coin, BTC that can’t be replaced by another coin type.
  • @XCERXCP #65247 05:34 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I always thought NFT meant it can’t be faked. But everyone has told me different things so I don’t really know. I like Mike’s definition that sats are NFTs. 😆
  • @Superart #65248 05:37 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    One sat should be the same as any other sat. No?
  • @XCERXCP #65249 05:38 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Yes. If you look at it by a sat by sat basis. But step further away and look at it on a coin by coin basis. 1 sat of BTC can’t be replaced by 1 sat of any other coin.
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65249 #65250 05:39 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Sure, Bitcoin sats should not be fungible with sats of any random shitcoin, but they should be fungible amongst each other.
  • @XCERXCP #65251 05:41 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I agree.
  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65251 #65252 05:42 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Right. So I think my earlier statement holds true. If sats are not fungible, Bitcoin is broken.
  • @XCERXCP #65253 05:44 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    If you want to look at it on sat basis of being fungible, but not on a coin basis. 😆
  • @XCERXCP #65254 05:45 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    The parts of Bitcoin are fungible, but Bitcoin itself is not fungible
  • @Superart #65255 05:46 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Well, the coins are not, you are right, but they are supposed to be.
  • @Superart #65256 05:46 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Theres some smart dudes working on fixing that.
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65241 #65257 06:25 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Agree
  • @raretruck #65258 06:26 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    What's the difference between my sats and anyone else's sats?
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65253 #65259 06:28 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Fungibility between coins is an exchange, like trading gold for silver. Bitcoin only needs to be fungible with other bitcoins, nothing else
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65254 #65260 06:30 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    dollars are fungible with other dollars, but not euros
  • @raretruck #65261 06:31 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Does that mean dollars are non-fungible?
  • @raretruck ↶ Reply to #65256 #65262 06:34 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    +1
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65260 #65263 06:44 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Usd is non fungible. Only one source of issue. You, I, or anyone else can’t produce USD except the gov
  • @XCERXCP #65264 06:46 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I’ll say NFT is one source of issue. If more than one source can issue, it’s fungible.
  • @raretruck #65265 06:53 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    We have different definitions of fungibility
  • @krostue #65266 06:55 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Or ignorance based on opinion instead of fact
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theblockcrypto.com/amp/post/77776/binance-fisco-lawsuit-allegedly-facilitating-money-laundering-9-million
    Binance is sued by Japanese crypto exchange Fisco for allegedly facilitating the laundering of $9 million

    Crypto exchange Binance has been sued in a U.S. court by Japanese crypto exchange Fisco for allegedly facilitating the laundering of more than $9 million of stolen cryptocurrency.

  • @Superart ↶ Reply to #65263 #65267 07:02 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Fungibility is not a function of how many sources can issue the asset.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #65266 #65268 07:30 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Wampum, are you a member of the foundation?
  • @krostue #65269 07:39 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Am I entitled to have conversations as an individual person?
  • @krostue #65270 07:40 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    Should it be mandatory that I declare my statements represent no other entities?
  • @XCERXCP #65271 07:48 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I think if you’re part of the foundation, the community members should know.
  • @XCERXCP #65272 07:49 PM, 08 Jan 2021
    I don’t think it’s fair have anom account when you’re elected.
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