- 01 August 2017 (10 messages)
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👆Where to get these all technical information of token on counterparty?? Please help.. Thanks in advamce 👆
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does not apply -
that site is asking for shitcoin clones... who need to be babied with their own blockchain.
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i would reccomend using the DEX, and setting up a swap bot
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TFW shilling XCP in an EthereumClassic Group using PEPE as bait
https://www.facebook.com/groups/0x039e/permalink/1917657071856063/ - 02 August 2017 (46 messages)
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he's been there on the sidelines for a little while now
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Trezor deactivated it for now
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have to wait until Trezor activates it or you could try to sweep private keys into another wallet. the problem is no exchange is even allowing deposits. my friend sent me a screen shot of his Ledger Blue supporting Bitcoin Cash right now.
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i'm sure there are other wallets as well that are
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yep. i've made a couple side deals with individuals
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but i can even send it out of my trezor :(
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login to counterwallet..... dump your private key... your done -
take your private key and do what you want with it... entirely outside of counterwallet
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so... if you want your BCC... you can acesss it with your private key
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Bitcoin fork on August 1
That is incorrect. You do not need to move your coins out of counterwallet. Your BTC is perfectly fine/safe in Counterwallet during the fork. When the fork happens, if you had 100 BTC in your address, you will still have 100 BTC in your address... nothing changes. Now, if you want to actually split your coins into BTC and BCC, you can do so OUTSIDE of the counterwallet system. All that you will need from Counterwallet is the private keys for your address. Once the split happens, there will b...
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The 12-word passphrase on rarepepewallet also works at counterwallet.io.... so login at counterwallet.io... then in the address options, you should be able to view/display your private key
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just be aware that by using the private key, your putting any other assets you have in the address at risk..... the website you paste your private key into could split your BCC... but they could also just use the private key to sweep all your assets away from the address
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just something to think about 🙂
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CP only runs on BTC.. so no on all your assets converting to bcc as well
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^^^ this
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if you move assets out of the wallet before entering the key... it is safer... still not 100% safe... up to you if you do it... if your just talking about a few bucks, probably not worth the headache.
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IF you move everything out on then BTC side, the only thing which remains is the BitcoinCrash. That would be the safest case, imho
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everything, even ownership of tokens, if there are any at that address
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Xcp can be in top 50
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Why some shitt coins are in top list
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XCP is old coin 2014 .. but new coins are more above XCP
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Market Cap is a disingenuous measurement. But because it is a formula which can be repeated, it is. I say this because any blockchain in the market could not be bought or sold fully without the price being affected during the transition. There are other ways to order the data, such as 24 volume. Whenever I decide to invest in something I balance multiple values, such as social media presence, promises vs results, the roadmap, the level of activity, attitude of the community of users... and most of all, utility.
I bought ETH at $1 because I saw the usefulness of DAPPSs. I looked at it as if I could go back in time and buy gas for my car at the turn of the century, and then have access to it today.
IF you are going to just buy XCP and sit on it, then you are missing out on it functioning to its potential. And therefor missing out on a greater return. - 03 August 2017 (29 messages)
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Some people don't/can't/won't ever 'get it' - they're so into trading shitcoins that they think that is the most important factor. 🙄 -
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This is stupid. Miners can move their hashing power to any power coin. When everyone dumps bcc there will be no incentive to mine it. -
I tried using the 12 words used to seed my Counterparty address, to open a Bitcoin Cash wallet, with no success. I tried this via "Electron Cash" for Android -
Enter your passphrase to go into coinDaddy and then coin daddy will show you your private key under options or something
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exactly, the exchanges are artificially keeping the price high
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only the full asset page loads the enhanced asset information (the .json file), which points to an image file.
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could be the image isn't available
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I have a script I run periodically which goes through all assets, parses in the enhanced info/image... resizes/reformats to the correct size, then saves to a directory on xchain.... THAT is where the tiny images come from
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bcash shill begone -
no doubt. BCash is a complete scam to fleece newbs from their BTC.
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Should probly ask polo
- 04 August 2017 (6 messages)
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busy coding 🙂
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It's 12 noon in some places 😏
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Well I guess I should get to work too
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This is a work group, so it does count as "working"
- 05 August 2017 (8 messages)
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My Bitcoin were on a Counterparty wallet during the split. Is there a tool, or a methodology to extract private keys (other than the 12 words) from Counterparty/Bitcoin? I'm trying to dump my Bitcoin Cash, and snag up some dank rare pepe's
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don't just trust me on this... but I THINK you can use coinomi wallet. -
move ALL of your counterparty assets to a new counterparty wallet, ALL OF THEM
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then load your wallet into coinomi, and i believe you can split your coins that way
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but DYOR as I did not have to use that method
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Mahalo, that worked!
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About to trade my Bitcoin Cash for PEPECASH
- 06 August 2017 (12 messages)
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Welcome Davide
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I have some qs about takara, if anyone can answer. Do i need to send bitcoin as well as card? It says minimum of 2000bits but when i send card it only say ~50bits. -
yes
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to move counterparty assets, they are all encoded inside bitcoin transactions.
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so you need that minimum amount to create the transaction and move to asset into the new owners address when they find the Takara
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This brings up a good teaching point. One could have millions of dollars of tokens in a bitcoin address but if that address has Zero bitcoin, you won't be able to access those tokens.
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Ok ace. Thanks Shawn
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some people are sweeping their private keys into BCH wallets right now. so i think this is probably going to happen to a few ppl
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Lol.
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- 07 August 2017 (20 messages)
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Wait the xcp price increase until feel bored😑
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RAREPEPEPRTY too :)
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age of rust, metagame.io, rarepepe.party... plenty of ICOs on CP... just not pumpy ones 🙂
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In some ways each and every rarePepe debut is an ICO... Innital Meme Offering
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exactly!!
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Of course penisium too is ico that only asked for laughs (PROOF OF LOL)
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Counterparty: On scalability and the future | Counterparty
Since its inception, Counterparty has functioned as a "metalayer" on Bitcoin, enabling functionality that Bitcoin could not perform on its own. Until rec
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Sure you can make money if you buy ethereum at a dollar and sell it at 400 but in my opinion you could make way much more return by creating a decentralized application. Counterparty is very similar to this in that creating an asset could yield better return than sitting on funds
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Not much of a Biblical person but for some reason lately I've been thinking of the story of the master who left his servants loans when he left town. then one servant buried his loan in the ground and was chastised for it after the master returned
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"You hath not spread the good word of Counterparty to my peoples? You own no PEPEs? I cast ye down to hell to fornicate with the sodomites" 🙂
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In today's political climate I would imagine a line at the door of people waiting to get in
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"Ask not what counterparty can do for you but what you can do for counterparty."
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Just wait. XCP regularly swings back. Never let me down. As BTC raises again, there's the correction but if BTC moves on, XCP will as well....
- 08 August 2017 (233 messages)
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bittrex seems to be talking the reigns from polo
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Do xcp want to moon?
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I waited xcp to be moon for a year but seems ntg yet
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Haiz
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yes, but not at the cost of scammy pumping.... we prefer to focus on growing the userbase and improving the protocol.... which we have been doing for 4+ years now
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4 years~~~~~ you all are so patience
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Look at my horse
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my horse is amazing
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give it a lick
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MMMMM tastes just like raisins
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I hope xcp team shows more potential to the public, i believe xcp team can do it
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Build the confident. So the price automatically will increase as well
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Dont takes too long time. Time is precious
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Fix the missing A asset name problem, an incomplete name space is a fundamental flaw of Counterparty protocol.
This must be fixed for Counterparty to be taken seriously as a global digital asset protocol.
I flagged this in Slack October last year. A useful discussion ensued, although there were differing views on how to resolve the XA kludge name problem. Equity considerations of stranded asset names, whether to give XA name holders any dibs over corresponding A names, etc.
I kept a copy of relevant discussion because I knew the 10,000 message limit would have it get lost.
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Counterparty is some amazing tech, awesome use cases and then there's ... A???
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i will offer some sound opinion on that issue
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Make Counterwallet the best UI, fix bugs, and turn on BTC trading on the DEx
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oh thats dirty
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BTC on dex is doable... but counterwallet interface sucks... time would be better spent building out a better dex interface like xcpdex.com or btcpaymarket.com..... I have plans to do this... but as always... it is a time constraint.
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i might see about getting btcpaymarket.com working again, or if any other dev is interested its on my github, github.com/loon3/btcpaymarketGitHub - loon3/btcpaymarket: Buy and Sell Counterparty (XCP) Assets with Bitcoin
Buy and Sell Counterparty (XCP) Assets with Bitcoin - GitHub - loon3/btcpaymarket: Buy and Sell Counterparty (XCP) Assets with Bitcoin
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a couple API issues, and need to add better fee estimation
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TLDR ver: P2P Bounties!!!!
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What CP needs is devs.... we have plenty of ideas, but those ideas will never come to fruition if we do not have devs.... we can not attract devs with wishes and dreams.... IMO we need a marketing firm to help promote CP and get it in front of more devs and users
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you really think a marketing firm can handle this kind of novelty?
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yes. one that deals specifically in cryptos like vanbex.com could work with CP foundation to come up with consistent messaging and work together to promote CP
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something like ethercasts but specifically for XCP could help connect the movers with the shakers. If the donation is to be used wisely, it could help build the community organically. By fostering an environment for users to make great things counterparty as a whole will benefit. Not only because of the smaller achievements, but the foundation can also use these said funds to take out its own jobs to the community, in which they can be filled at a market rate, using xcp.
A marketing firm is just going to dump the xcp for their end line. IT is just business to them... yet to the userbase, it is a passion. Who will yield better results? -
I know that i've been sitting around the past 2+ years waiting for SOME kind of marketing/promotion of CP.... nadda... all our growth has been generic... which is awesome, but it is random.
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sitting around waiting does not sound proactive.
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yep.. cuz i've been sitting on my ass 😛
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on the foundation
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writing xchain.io
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writing counterparty2mysql
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running free public dev servers
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totally not doing anything at all to help encourage growth and promote CP
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I am talking about mentoring the community to be self-serving. then getting results from people who care about the project
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do Dev's respond to marketing or $?
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marketing gets eyes on the project.... eyes on the project == devs being exposed.... no guarantee, but certainly better than what CP has been doing the past few years to grow the community.
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i know of the two is 100% to get action ;)
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*sigh*
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nothing wrong with paying a marketer for some professional opinions on branding and advertising.
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I am wrapping my degree up in Marketing in the next few months. I got so far down the RarePepe rabbit-hole I saw the light and got inspired to work ahead and get it done.
I am coming from a long history in websites, advertising, printing, publishing, and a five to six years in cypto//
Just because I did not charge for my advice does not mean it should be discredited. I took the time to give you feedback based on my insight, my specialty. Please do not pass it by for someone who less informed and more expensive. And now i digress, as i am not here to hurt feelings or be an idea bully.
"my two cents" PM or respond in kind if you want to continue discussing the merits of my direct action plan based on an insiders view.... but wasting community funds on a private institution with no allegiance, will lessen the likelihood of further donations, when compared to the possible choice of fostering members of the community to better serve it, imho. -
glad you are here and helping! we need you!!!
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Only reason that hiring a marketing firm is being discussed is because the CP community and members are not stepping up.... there is a clear hole which us devs don't know how to fill.... and most the users just want new features and don't have any idea how to grow the platform beyond "more features"...... please don't think I am WANTING to hire a marketing firm... I would much prefer an organized community driven effort... however, that has not happened in the past few years and I am not seeing anything that is leadnig me to believe that ppl will step up.... so, that being said, the hiring of a crypto-specific marketing firm could help CP come up with a plan to gain the attention of wider users
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100% agree with shawn.... we value your opinion and are glad your here.... and definitely need you 🙂
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and yet i hope you realize that i have not been here for years, and i am ready to step up
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awesome! glad to hear it. Shawn Leary would probably be the best person to work with on coordinating marketing efforts.
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i'm clearly not a marketer and don't have all the answers... just a CP lover who is tired of CP not getting enough love from the rest of the crypto world 🙂
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I hope that segwit and cheaper transactions will make counterparty more attractive again...
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i am not just shooting off at the mouth. I have been immursed in pepe and then xcp for two months now. I broke my foot about three weeks ago, and have been glued to the computer and these chats. I have the drive to create daily equity and sustain the needs of my family. I am deeply driven to say the least, and I want to help not just myself, but everyone.
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i am not coming out of left field either. This has been my direction for several years, as proven with the registration date of coin.marketing
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ppl like nullc critizize it as a parasitic layer. Although XCP uses the BTC blockchain it's kinda encapsulated / isolated from BTC. It would be interesting to think about ways to bridge the gap and bring XCP closer to BTC
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technological ways
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serialized sub assets would be interesting... eg for digital artworks you could not only own one of let's say 300 pieces, you could own number 133.
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one of the things that XCP has going for it that ETH does not, is the barrier of entry is simpler for people to understand who are not technologically adept.
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I dont get why serialized subassets are a fixation. the whole asset is serialized through the blockchain.
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yes, but not the single tokens
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or better: not the single units
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every token can be tied back to its origin. there are unique numbers created along the way. Therefore the virgin TX of each asset is its own serial. unmutable on the blockchain, but not humanized to "133"
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do you know the projet cryptopunks on ethereum?
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i know of it, but do not have interest getting back into eth at this time
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it's not about ETH, but the idea behind it
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perhaps i do not know enough. they are randomly generated, claimed, and then traded and sold? they seem to look like the avatar as wallet... which reminds me. i have had this avatar for tooooooo long. time to go
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yes. everyone of that 10'000 cryptopunks is unique.
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now imagine a XCP asset called Cryptopunk, issued 10'000 tokens but every token has a seperate id.
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then you tie the artwork (in this case the cryptopunk icon) to those individual token
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It could also be down with subassets, but would cost you 2500 XCP
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and some time or a script and a counterparty node
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but that is not the same. the randomness of the punk is generated not cataloged.
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every punk has it's id
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or you could take out a bounty which draws the randomeness of each asset back to its original tx from the origin wallet...
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it could cost less to pay a the right dev, then to catalog them manually, for sure!
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but then you assume that they only are moved 1 by 1. if you transact more than 1 tx ids won't be enough to identify the tokens
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btw @jdogresorg you have an offer on coindaddy
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you have a response bro 🙂
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did about 5 mins ago 🙂
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are they intended to be bought and sold in bulk? perhaps i do not know enough about cryptography, but to the best of my knowledge these assets do not exist identically on the crypto ledger. on some level they are all unique anyway.. perhaps on the base btc dust level all xcp is unique.
THB my point is that i think adding serialization access is working backward not forwards. Such a thing would be a private endeavor for a project, and not a shared interest for the community. -
oh,
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XCP has enough going for it to be able to move forward and make innovations unto this space, and not worry about trying to copy function from another blockchain
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It would make XCp more flexible for other uses (but also more complicated)
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It's not a copy. Ethereum cannot do that as far as I know
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at least not on the toiken level
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but i am also saying that they are not identical, like png files... exist uniquely but with the same name. or how could i hold one and you another?
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simple added feature one can use. could also a third party to audit assets
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or autoimated issuance up to token nr X. not via software and counterparty nodes, but in the protocol
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so let's say i'm Apple and issue a round of shares on Counterparty and then one of the biggest investor loses his keys
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novelty is tricky. everyone wants to seem to apply it to old world stuff. I want to push it to the next level, personally
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obviously this goes against everything we believe in
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immutable or die :)
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yes please
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that doesn't collide with the idea of serialized assets
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i could see an entity saying tokens 1-20 are dead due to compromised wallet and we are reissuing 101-120 as replacements.
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again this is an optional
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yep
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yet. who takes an unlocked asset seriously?
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it really depends on what you use it for
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issuing new subassets... is a way around it sure
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yes, but that's expensive
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Let's say you're Apple and you look and find you can't have a token called APPLE. Are you going to use XAPPLE if you're Apple?
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FAPPLE
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Just woke up 1.30am two kids with temperatures, gave them some meds and caught up on this threads :-) very excited to see lively discussion happening here!! :-)
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NOFAPPLE!!
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CRAPPLE
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A use case: I work in a picture agency. We produce photos and sell them to customers. Every photo has an ID (12345689). Let's say for each photo, we create a subasset like OURCOMPANYNAME.12345689. We then sell these subassets on a protocol marketplace to people who want to license our photos. If you can prove that you onw that token, you can access the picture and use it. No need for unlocked assets in this case
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but the bitcoin message authentication layer already provides this. my wallet makes a message to confirm that the token is there... and this can be automated
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@PEPECASHWORLDTOUR2017 has a bot that confirms owership or kicks you out. would not asset verification work on that level successfully?
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im thinking it can... several ways
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re: vanbex
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It could but with serialized assets you would have a way to revoke acces for the owner of a token, if license ended (some are only open for a certain time). but ok, i agree... the idea is not thought to the end yet...
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Or you could sell different licenses for the same picture and identify the type of license by the token serial number
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your focus has merit. I want to work on a similar usage case... so I would like to hash out your idea in public or private on how the existing xcp tech could possibly meet your needs.
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and then you would have guidelines on the institutional level on how users may buy or sell assets and the needs to be interfaced on your system.
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yeah.. critics could say we could do that without any blockchain
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no... there is merit to using xcp for sure!
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for sure! there are several projects exploring the use of blockchains :
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mediachain.io (the dev company has been bought by spotify lately) or po.et... and token.fm also in a sense
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the idea is already interesting without serialized tokens
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dex ftw
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rarephotowallet
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a problem in the picture agency world is that there is 1) a lot of cooperation between agencies: everyone sells the pictures of another agecy in their respective markets 2) ususally every agency hosts a copy of the digital files on their data silos 3) if a picture is revoked due to legal reasons, they inform each other by email and every agency removes the pic manually 4) every month a sales report is compiled to decaler the sales of the partner's pictures. that report is sent on paper and somebody types the numers in again 5) every picture has metadata. if one agency changes the metadata, the other agencies know nothing about. most of those problems could be resolved by broadcasting a shitton of messages via a blockchain. it could be fully automated. heck, you could even cut out all agencies and set up a decentralized piture marketplace...
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ok lets build it and ICO
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where's my $20million
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and most of the players in this field have no clue. Only Getty Images showed interest in mediachain.io
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where's my island?
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PICO
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unfortunately I am only a visionaire, no coder
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(or a dreamer and noobish phantast)
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just meme it into existence
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that network would need to be very fast. Shutterstock only ingests 1.1 million pictures each week
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I had originally assumed you were talking about a boutique art gallery. With a system as big as shutterstock it would be best for multiple technologies to be working in tandem.
In this case, i would require the end user to implement a valid confirmation btc signed message in the alt tag of the IMG itself on the webpage it is published on. Then I would employ bots to scour the net and archive usage, along the way the program would check for valid ALT messages, and flag sites with unauthorized usage, and redundant keys. The bot could even fetch the whois contact and eMail the infraction warning. Multiple warning and the blacklist gets upgraded to human attention. -
Yep. The part about copytheft is tricky...
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But the thing is the news industry is already heavily standardized. Dozens of agencies world-wide use the same metadata storage within the images and provide FTP feeds of pictures to each other.
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In the future you would only broadcast a message to the network that a new picture is available and a uri that points to a preview and the metadata. Everyone who is authorized to use the picture could access the metadata and then would receive access to the high res picture file.
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If a pic has to be killed or metadata is updated, you simply broadcast the update to the network again. Could be faster than today's ftp feeds
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Same for texts, videos, audio files... Even if you implement it in the news industry only it would be huge
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I think any project will experience dead ends and headaches overall when this tech is applied to the intention of replacing something which exists.
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You might be right. Those old industries are very slow in adopting standards already. Even slower if it's about tech.
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But it would speed up the inter-agency exchange and cut cost.
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And if you think it further, it might replace those older middlemen
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what other case-uses are there for automated humanly named sequential sub-assets? I want to continue to focus the discussion on the merits or drawbacks of this naming structure vs. the inherent identity of each asset already being unique to the btc/xcp network.
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Will meditate about it
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Lottery tickets?
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You register a subasset or an asset with a serialized issuance of let's say 1000.
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With only one broadcast 1000 'different' tokens could be created.
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Xcplotto
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Search for btcpay on counterparty site
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in this new system, tickets are reusable, so it will change the inherent nature of the game mechanics. If someone buys a ticket, they have the opportunity to win. In the real world, users win then trade the claim for the ticket. on the blockchain the claim exchange transaction would be the initiating event to determine random eligibility of return.
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in that way the lotto is instant, whenever user sends it back
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XCPLOTTERY.ROUND7.765278 could be a token, while being ASSET.SUBASSET.SERIALNR
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but the thing is that the asset is already a serial number
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that is the nature of its existence.
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every asset you create is limited to an issuance. but every iota of the issuance is unique already... divisible or not.
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Trying to wrap my head around that
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idunno. to me adding serialized numbers in the namespace is like spinning rims. Adding Wheels to wheels do not make them better at being wheels
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Haha
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Ok. In a lottery two players can bet on the same number.
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But a tombola works different. There is only one lot with the right id..
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Maybe I don't understand how every single token of an asset is identifiable without serialization...
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And check the sticky msg
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any lottery is an incentivized game... there are so many different games. Some will work better on the blockchain than others. I think broadcasting a windy bin of numbered balls on television increases the transparency and therefore trust of the system. Again, old world constructs. On a blockchain, contracts can be viewed and read as being fair or trustworthy before participation. Even then shit happens. TTBOMK theDAO fork also helped a pyramid scheme and some other projects with gas errors.
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not being a dev, i cannot point to the section of the code or tell you the concept in jargon specific to the industry. but the nature of the beast in crypto in general is that if you take away the paper from cash you are left with a serial number. Make it so that the serial number is so complex and needs to be verified by the system that it is impossible for a human to forge such a serial number into existence. hence mining, and the increasing difficulty.
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bitcoin is a series of serialized transactions
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Yes. But let's say I create 100 YAXCPASSET and I send you 10 of it. Those 10 are not serialized in my understanding and the 90 I have left are neither. There is just one transaction saying that address B has a input of 10 and Address A has 90.
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Or am I wrong?
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that is your human interaction. on a tech level, each of those assets are unique serialized data segements, with the same name
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but the 10 YAXCPASSETs cannot represent 10 different things like generated game creatures.
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it is within the parameters of the game to express the unique data identity visually to the user
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Not sure. I guess it's more address B has an input of 10 YAXCPASSET.
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how can the program tell there are 10 and not one?
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Because the address has an input of 10
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Just like BTC. If I send you 1 BTC my address has an output of 1 and yours has an input of 1.
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This gets confirmed by the miners and if I try to double spend they say I have nothing to spend anymore
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on an ontological level the Address B has a group of 10 virtual goods. each good existence is based on being differentiated from one another. If you have 10 apples in your basket, it is not a tenapple, it is ten separate apples.
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Not on the blockchain
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You just note an input of 10. You don't need to differentiate the individual apples
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At least in my understanding
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they are already differentiated within the system. you are traveling down the path of a bad metaphor.
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and i am trying to help you understand... or us understand. we are in public room, so please someone jump in
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if a dev wants to come forward and tell me i am wrong, please do
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i will send you a tenapple
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for being a good teacher
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Haha... I know how BTC works but not sure how XCP does it. I only know there's not much bits in a transaction to be used.
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until then i guess we will continue to refine the argument on why or why not humanized serial numbers are important to functionality.
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That's hard if we assume different current states
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I would look into this and research your stance
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You assume it's already serialized. I assume it's not.
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yes. because that is the nature of the beast. i know it is... being serialized is what brings it into existence.
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AFK for dinner and kids. Will join in later...
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yeah. im probably wrong
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Hi
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I am trying to change the description for one of my assets
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But I am receiving an error
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Which is actually an unknown error
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Anyone can help please?
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screenshot?
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sorted it
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👍🏻
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i removed http:// before the link
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thanks
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glad you worked it out
- 09 August 2017 (103 messages)
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Which mean someone is focusing on xcp soon
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Is there a vision for Counterparty to be a globally mass adopted digital asset creation, management and trading platform?
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Who here holds this vision? I hold a piece of it in my heart. But I don't see the vision writ large in a compelling banner statement.
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I've invested a large part of my life into Counterparty assets in the last 10 months and I plan to continue that commitment.
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To flourish and grow, Counterparty needs to step up to the challenge of becoming the premier digital asset name space for all humans who want to tokenize and trade on names.
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Or is the vision not that? I understand the desire for community driven organic growth, that has a level of authenticity to it.
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This is one of the compelling attributes that led me here in the first instance
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people have to believe in the immutability of the bitcoin blockchain. right now we've had tremendous growth in the alt coin chains, so everyone is just spinning up their own chain and no way they have the security of Counterparty.
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Counterparty's fate is tied to Bitcoin main chain. The alternative of coordinating a mass migration while preserving state frozen at a certain point would be an order of complexity beyond my comprehension.
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Perhaps that's possible, but let's not go there now.
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I'd to focus on Counterparty itself. It's intrinsic properties, not external factors.
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The funding model. How to reward development and innovation. How to foster marketing that is sympathetic and attuned to the community's desires.
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I briefly read through the discussion earlier. I do need to re-read closely.
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The name space challenges. How to fix the name space? A is for Apple. Except when it's Counterparty.
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I'll find the notes from the Slack chat last year... start working on a summation.
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well what i was trying to say was that the fact that our asset layer uses the best strongest chain should be a huge selling point yet we see people using unproven chains like Waves and others for their offerings.
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Best and strongest are opinionated words they need to be backed up with actual stats. To be frank we don't know if these crypto 3.0 are stronger or better than Bitcoin. for now, we have Bitcoin but in two or three years maybe tezos or iota or byteball will be a better option. And these might even be a way to interact with the existing blockchain for Bitcoin but on a more efficient manner or level to get smarty. For the sake of redundancy, there should always be a contingency plan to be able to port CounterParty at a moment's notice to any other blockchain that we have established as being the next best choice. Redundant portability would be the ideal level of responsibility for the mentorship of a project. Currently, we are using Bitcoin and it is getting better to use so there is no reason at the moment. However, if the only thing constant is change, then we should be ready for anything.
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waves was made from a template developed from IOHK
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BTC is way way WAY more secure than any of these other chains.... easy to determine it by looking at the hash rate for BTC..... no way "dogecoin" or "byteball" or any of these others are going to scale up to come anywhere close to BTCs security or hashing power... just my $0.02
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your right... should have done it beef style and talked in all caps so ppl knew I meant it 😛
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PoW is still the king as far as i can tell. these magical proof of stake perpetual motion systems seem even easily replaced by the next shiny new feature laden white paper
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Adam Back
note to the "blocksize isnt a scale problem" crowd. just spent days syncing armory on a $3000 16GB recent laptop. had to increase swap,
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He is talking about armory.... it is a frigging beast
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I stopped running it on my counterwallet servers because it was sucking up too much disk space 🙁
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plus no longer maintained 🙁
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For one he's not even using the newest version of armory.
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Not sure why he'd get a new laptop, then go dig around and fine an old piece of software
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Ahh... someone picked dev back up.. nice... I haven't revisited armory in a while.. thx for the update 🙂
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Dig your hat btw 🙂
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and that is the strongest argument for BTC and XCP on BTC
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JACKSHIT headed your way 🙂 https://xchain.io/tx/f25a914ace5be1b7e5c8c55313305a1702093b27f735c8298e15cea8d810b172
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Grouping together byteball and Dogecoin is pretty disingenuous as they are completely different levels. Dogecoin is some shit coin made in 5 minutes. byteball has not even gotten started yet. Tezos's hasn't even forged its origin block. How can you begin to start telling me that you've throughly measured Bitcoin success to these 3.0 crypto ledgers that when they aren't even established?
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you want to have a discussion and weigh the merits in an open conversation, or just bribe people who blindly agree?
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and i did preface my observation with the time expectation of two to three years. IF i were to bet you, the outcome would be worthless if i win. Only time will tell where we all are in two years.
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He's not bribing anybody. i just bought an asset from him
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has nothing to do with this chat
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Until tezos does something it's just vaporware
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worthless until someone else does it?
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look. no offence to anyone, but this is how i contribute. i may not code, but I will force you to revisit your values, if possible
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not saying that i have all the answers either... but am offering input from years experience in the industry. Just because insight is free does not mean it is worthless.
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I highly appreciate serious discussions
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and i will do my best not to get butthurt, or take anything personally... i hope that is something we can all agree on
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But I agree that Bitcoin as the mother of al cryptos has a serious advantage. And all others have serious competition
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in my opinion, bitcoin is the biggest and first to market and therefore destined to fail. This pattern is repeated in many industries where the first and biggest to market runs the biggest risk of failure. In some ways, the recent forking of btc and previously eth has proved that they are both not up to par with the way consensus SHOULD operate, as it has not been achieved.
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or bitcoin pulls an Apple and gets even stronger
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WTF..... Django purchased an asset from me yesterday... I was delivering it to him today.... no bribe.. he paid for the asset.. I delivered it... nothing more
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take for example onename.io
they used the namecoin blockchain for a whiiiile. and then just popped off with their own.
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i was going by the fact that your receipt was a reply to his post. sorry if i read too much into it, but on face value that is what it looked like. I gladly stand corrected
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i am sorry for the accusation.
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thats why you dont see Fords anymore
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You have besmirched my good name sir... all is lost... now I take my toys and go home 😛
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are you familiar with the term "First mover disadvantage"
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no pepe bot here
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because monkey business matter
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https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0618/154.html
your counter examples of first movers who did not succeed.First-Mover DisadvantageInvesting in pioneers is very exciting. But the big money tends to be made by the successors and imitators.
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Doesn't one name use btc now?
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they're cheaper now than at ICO, so good time to buy
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yes. you are right. i lost interest when they left namecoin and thought that they went to emercoin, but it looks like they are mega guys now
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Shouldn't that read "Bitcum and Cunterparty"
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Lucky me did miss it as well...
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I might grab some more while the price is low, not sure where to toss my extra cash at the moment
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First world problems.
- 10 August 2017 (77 messages)
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COVAL Crowdfunding Creed
COVAL is in a unique position. The ₡OVAL cryptocurrency preceded the COVAL Platform due to the circumstances that lead to this point.
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Sorry newbie here. Not seeing much activity in XCP github since Robby departure. Since then price plunged. What's you guys take on this?
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eheh. But seriouly . There's a little lack of news from the XCP team on the next steps since... june?
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you should head to the slack, thats where dev discussion goes on
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there's actually a decent amount of dev work being completed right now by devon and i think john has started on CIP12
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just hasn't been pushed to the counterparty repo
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Thanks. I did join slack and see devs answering, which is good sign. I also went to github and check commits. Majority are from Robby, with the last one being from May. Don't get me wrong but as an investor, i see a general lack of updates from the core team.
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i believe shawn is working on an update to send out so you should see something soon
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the next counterparty-lib update includes consensus changes which require a hard fork so it needs to be released all at once
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Do you have any timeline? Also, would be nice to see a roadmap?
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Counterparty Foundation Hangout 20170729
Counterparty Hangout July 2017. Hosted by J-Dog, Dante and Shawn
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There is the most recent CP hangout about a little over a week ago... reviews all the CIPs and the status of each
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Thanks! I was actually looking for it!
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Counterparty: On scalability and the future | Counterparty
Since its inception, Counterparty has functioned as a "metalayer" on Bitcoin, enabling functionality that Bitcoin could not perform on its own. Until rec
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roadmap
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We def need to do a better job of consistent communication to the community... but rest assured, work is always ongoing... both on the protocol and on misc CP projects under wraps 🙂
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thank you. appreciated!
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No problem. Thx for your continued interest in CP 🙂
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Nothing is banned on the XCP DEX.... perhaps the interface your using has chosen not to show that asset... but there is no censorship on the DEX.
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you might want to ask @droplister as he is the operator of xcpdex.com
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Counterparty Foundation Hangout 20170729
Counterparty Hangout July 2017. Hosted by J-Dog, Dante and Shawn
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None
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if an asset does not have enough of a history, it will show up as a general 404 error
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looks like my guess is wrong then
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It's not the first time something gets censored on xcpdex...
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?
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probably best to ask @droplister directly rather than guess 🙂
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