https://twitter.com/mafiawars_io/status/1101549752145965056

Someone boot this clown please

You have been told a bunch of times that no one is going to do OTC with you, and to stop spamming here. You have also been told that if you were serious about selling, you could simply list your tokens for sale on the DEX.... your "My country doesn't allow crypto trading" line is worn out.... IMO your a spammer who should be removed

+1

Done.

Good riddance

。

Do you guys find it weird that the co-founder of counterparty is also the co-founder of one of the biggest private blockchains that there is

Wierd? not really. Seems like a natural progression. No way that the volume of transactions needed within financial institutions which symbiont does business with can all be on the public bitcoin blockchain. Counterparty was testing what could be done on public blockchain, and lessons were learned, the primary one probably being that private blockchains offer signifcant advantages when you don't need all your data publicly available. Just look at how CP was treated by the core devs when they started up... 80-byte OP_RETURNs then chopped to 40-bytes in an attempt to neuter CP functionality. Easier for Adam to focus on building enterprise solutions on a private blockchain than try to do everything publicly on a blockchain where the devs are openly hostile towards the platform.

It is disaapointing that the co-founders left CP to work on Symbiont, and there was hope at one time that there would be some usage of CP in their products, but I can understand tthe devs not being able to continue work on any project which might be considered a competitor by some.... non-compete agreements n all 😛

Great answer thanks J-Dog

Don't suppose you know any other private chains that have managed to chain such traction in the ST space?

Struggling to find many

Apart from Koreconx and Rivver (whom I can't get any info out of)

I must confess, I don't follow many private blockchain companies/projects... so I am not currently aware of any other companies that have the same traction as Symbiont.

anyone having issues with Bittrx deposits?

Withdrawal worked ok.

Anyone seen or played around with the Raizer dex interface for counterparty. Looks pretty cool

Don't see it mentioned in this chat yet

The UI looks nice... tho their raizer.btc token is sketchy.... someone tried something similar in the early days of CP via XBTC.... worked fine until they discovered that they were effectively a money exchanger/transmitter who was not licensed to operate in any states.... pretty quickly closed up shop after it became clear how much money/energy would be required to go legit/legal.

Raizer Corp appears to be setup in Belize City... so who knows... they could operate for a while without getting in any legal trouble.

Nice to see more interfaces being built on the DEX tho regardless 🙂

Yeah, seems less sketchy than tether (in the sense there's no fiat conversions) it's essentially wrapping/unwrapping BTC into a tokenized form like eth/weth on the DEXes

Even aside from that component the UI on the XCP (or subtoken) side is pretty nice. Surprised there's not a single mention of it here.

Yeah... doesn't look like they have done any real promo... no mention of it on counterpartytalk.org or reddit either

haiku as seed phrase 😏

HD wallet => haiku desune

don’t use any published haiku

the goal is to create them

1626 factorial possible enlightened seed phrases - be creative!

actually 1626^^12 since it seems to let me repeat words

yeah. im coming around to full integration with what is at hand. While I enjoyed the potential of emoji domains that brought me to the namespace, ultimately my collection has been reduced to barebones on NMC. as far as development, of any kind, especially sociologically i have determined XCP to be my home.
poem/ namespace project will be moved before the publication of collected works. There has been something since last poetry month that was stopping me from proceeding, and I now see what it has been. gameplan incoming

^RE:

Thx...though looks like deposits have been disabled. I dont think its from XCPs end...since Bittrex I think is upgrading their wallets.

That's a new pack I just created..feel free to use if you like it frens😊

Not surprised that he did it again

Send him back to gulag!

oh, this won't end well ...

Hi Mia, do you happened to know where I can find a telegram group for the best pumps? Looking to get me an average of 200-300% sick gainz?

Mia I'm only getting like 50% on my pumps

I need more grains

Ditto. Mia, please advise ASAP

did anyone tried " raizer (dot) cc"? is it reliable or a scam?

Even if it is reliable, I still do not feel comfortable to put (login) with my wallet seed in their dex interface

I might just be too paranoid

😜

Mentioned it earlier, not much known about it yet, Nice to have another interface though.

It has Low volume and no feedback, no audit- Belize incorporation (not necessarily a red flag but yano) would certainly advise if you're going to use, to use a fresh seed and play with small amounts. Trying to find more info.

Yeah, totally agree!

" Lottery mechanism of Raizer Decentralized Exchange operates via RAIZER token, which is issued on CounterParty.
After detokenizer, the system will use random algorithm to find RAIZER holders who will win the whole amount of prize. The more RAIZER you possess, the greater chance you'll have of winning the prize. "

this sounds sketchy (but I might be wrong)

but that mechanism simmilar to the WETH (wrapped ETH) approach seems interesting

Actually just found a BTT thread and telegram/discord group for their platform. Reading through now.

Seems they're in the process of an ICO: Quick skim through the whitepaper and thread, Definitely a _lot_ of sockpuppets/sig campaign bots in the ANN thread faking conversation, maybe 80%. Although this is par for the course on BTT. Some other red flags, would assume sketch until proven otherwise.

It's a ridiculous strategy to expect people to enter their seed phrase to use the exchange. Would you send them your private keys? This is the same thing. Anybody - what am I missing??

yeah, it's totally ridiculous

All the web XCP wallets work the same way so counterwallet, rpw, mafiawars, bookoforbs, etc. are also ridiculous?

Those are wallets, this is an exchange.

Those wallets allow to place orders like an exchange no?

I don't trust them also for the moment but just think this argument is not valid

Yeah DEX is built into the protocol.

Maybe market this as another web wallet. Nothing wrong with using it I guess, provided you make a fresh HD wallet - to your point it's the same trust model we use now just with an unknown provider.

Yep that's it 👍

Hello, anyone in the XCP community know what is this address 1AhAExgxS6aVRdKdyEuC5M4v6dxdzdgTaq? It contains large amounts of assets but never did any outgoing transaction and never had any BTC either. Only receiving assets over time. Is it a burn address?

Judging by the amount of zaif in the wallet (64%) and large amounts of other tokens supported on zaif, I would assume that is a zaif cold wallet.

Zaif.jp

Yep maybe, is amazing they never need to take out assets from the cold wallet so far.

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What if I don’t already have a blockchain?

Bitcoin Core 0.18.0 RC1 binaries are out for testing: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-core-dev/2019-March/000074.html

I have some, but wont sell you 🙃

打扰一哈。

i can loan you one of mine

😜 was a party ah?

have a nice day everyone

check this out, in an article about some screw up with a monero wallet bug on Ledger Nano S, CNN decides to choose the Counterparty burn address as example of how you can send bitcoin to a burn addy https://www.ccn.com/redditor-claims-to-lose-83000-in-monero-due-to-ledger-wallet-bug

funny how they never wonder why the 2000+ BTC in that address were sent there to be burned in the first place

Prolly just searched for the burn address with the most btc burned in it.... I’m not aware of any other projects/address that has burned so much btc

Good catch on the article tho😀👍🏻

*CCN

yeah sorry one letter wrong

That sounds interesting. I have $500 to turn into $5000 @McnalyTrade . How do I get started?

How much do I need to turn it into a lambo?

NEED

NEETbux

Can xcp surpass eth?

Why is your official website displaying Chinese?

link?

https://twitter.com/FreeWallet/status/1107734344607518720

Xcp is transitioning into a stable coin so will slowly drop to $1 then hold that.

does these version includes the btcpay module already 😅 ?

@jdogresorg 👆

Nope. The DEX Interface and BTCpay functionality are only supported in the Desktop version currently.

Will eventually add a DEX interface into the mobile wallet... but probably will focus on the desktop wallet and getting all the features built into that before I revisit the mobile version..... only did an update now cuz ppl were reporting the mobile version stopped working entirely.

Segwit support... then betting interface.. then will revisit the mobile app and add all the features 🙂

lots of worrk indeed J better to focuse on one thing at the time

thanks for the update

looking forward for that btcpay api released

👍👍👍👍

None

👌

Post your order on the DEX Nemo, I believe we already established that noone is interested in OTC deals here

new user, same message

Boom goes the scam

Most of them are from kektoshi and frens

They agreed to me making a pack out of it...

So feel free to add and spread.

Hehe

Bog calling got to leave

Are...are you real?

That sounds entirely unrelated to anything prior, and very...advertise-y

I responded seconds after your message, so I assume you're online

You've got like, ten minutes

@ShawnLeary can we get Shieldy in here?

Banned

https://twitter.com/benchbtc/status/1108746387557175297

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Hi! I'm new here

How do I get started?

Counterwallet.io

Counterparty.io

And the other ecosystem projects can point you out in their respective direction: rarepepe, mafiawars, bitcorns, etc

Counterparty volume is fake! :P
"Exchanges may have an incentive to report fake volume. Bad actors may look to attract listings for new initial coin offerings, or ICOs, who want their cryptocurrency on an exchange where more trading goes on, Bitwise said. Those fees can run from $1 million to $3 million per listing, according to data from Autonomous Next."
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/majority-of-bitcoin-trading-is-a-hoax-new-study-finds.html

Im an analyst at a hedgefund in ny. Have access to a lot
Of market intel both in crypto and stocks.

Not proper opsec

all your intel are belong to us

What’s the next release?

Multi-Peer Multi-Asset sends (MPMA) https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0010.md and P2SH encoding https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0006.md

Awesome!! XCP so undervalued. It’s nuts

It will have its day again, just gotta keep the lights on and keep making incremental improvments 🙂

Yea and leveraging open source coming out all over the place which can be embedded into counterparty. It’s a lot about our community/ network :)

Yup, many coins have falled greatly, some have started little signs of life again
XCP, whilst [barely] starting to recover a little from the lowest depths is still down 98% from the local high
(a point it's reached every year since launch.. not even the ATH!!)
the embodiment of oversold.

I mean take a look at RVN (bitcoin fork with counterparty-like features embedded within, launched 4 years later
with more limited functionality) it's increased in mkt cap $170M within the past month- despite that it's only 15% distributed.
That puts it's implied fully diluted mkt cap right now at 1.3 Billion. Meanwhile XCPs total _fully diluted_ market cap is... in the 5M range! just think about that
for a second.

Is that sane? Obviously not. The ludicrous discrepancy in valuations has nothing to do with technology or fundamentals and everything to do with exposure and crypto-economic design
(e.g having rent-seeking miners be able to [pointlessly] print money with their GPUS in the guise of securing the network
sets a moving price floor and ensures there is a group that's interested in promoting price upwards via various means- e.g miners hold 1M and spend 500k to
increase the price of value holdings 60%, they win-- having major liquid exchanges on-side enables this kind of movement )

XCP has all of the features RVN has, and includes many more features
RVN lacks- it also operates with stronger security assumptions, has been battle-tested for 5 years, and comes complete with an actual quantifiable p2p asset economy.

Ultimately Counterparty-- despite it's middle-finger to mining farms, woeful lack of justin Sun like hype merchants and it's absolute stonewalling from the dominant liquidity providers--
led the charge on many of the crypto-spaces most hyped paradigms with the first decentralized exchange (long before it was a buzzword)
and the first real usable blockchain based token issuance/trade system. it's in stealth mode in the background as a community driven OSS project that just works. One
of the purest projects out there.

IMO the slow but steady building interest towards crypto-financial services like decentralized exchanges/STO means more eyes are going to be on platforms
that are innovating/facilitating on those fronts, like counterparty has done for the past half-decade.

We've seen ETH/ERC20 ICO hype cycle play out, and we've seen a certain tarnish and distancing to those approaches.
the ICO crap is over thankfully, now there's room for the future untapped possibility in STO markets (particularly BTC based/BTC centric platforms)
The potential breadth of such markets is huge, eclipsing the ICO space
even with one dominant stack I suspect there could be overspill into competing standards.

and aside from Omni, Counterparty is THE longest running system and
really the _only_ viable issuance/trade platform natively built on the most dominant & liquid ecoystem-- BTC.

Like RVN and unlike ETH It eschews the risk and complexity of turing-complete contracts and associated
audit costs. Uniquely it negates the need for third party services like on-offramps for crypto-crypto swaps since that's baked into the protocol. This is a killer
feature which counterpartys competitors lack, I think it most definately has great future potential whenever the space as a whole wakes up again and gets some energy

I think I paid $60 per xcp when I bought in 😂

How stupid

Hodl and you’ll feel like a genius in a year or two

+1

So, you think there will actually be a Counterparty killer app that causes XCP to significantly increase in price again, have strong volume, and all of that?

I think, if we're referring purely to a price perspective the main issue counterparty has is not a lack of a killer app (RVN increased $170M in the past month) and it does not have a single app, only spam assets, no exchange) it's simply discoverability and liquidity. That's it.

marketing helps for sure.

IMO In terms of actual utility, counterparty has it in spades
there are a great many other platforms that exist that have no real utility for end users, beyond a speculative asset held on exchange.
People right now are actually using counterparty- to trade in a p2p fashion without middlemen, to create and trade digital artwork, to game, trade stock options and so on. It's marketing it lacks.

my all dex open order in counterparty DEX. my all rares in pepecash!

Very nice summary 👍🏻

🤔

Then post an order on the DEX, or sell it on an exchange. We do not do OTC xcp trades here as 99.9% of the times it is a scam.

Sure. If you have an interest in selling, you can do so on an exchange easily

Well, you can't able to sell here. Sorry, use an exchange or find somewhere else.

Counterparty has great escrow features that enable trustless txs, I’m surprised you bought 27k shares without knowing that.

I’d love to be that deep.

lol shares

Can't wait for these

@chiguireitor @ShawnLeary