• 01 June 2019 (10 messages)
  • @Hellopeoplez #36675 06:10 AM, 01 Jun 2019
    There are many jurisdictions where XCP clearly not a security. We should go there?
  • @Hellopeoplez #36676 06:10 AM, 01 Jun 2019
    In any case the persons/ group bringing XCP back to an exchange will be the community heros 😅
  • @693002569 #36679 06:42 AM, 01 Jun 2019
    。
  • @heunland #36693 03:20 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    I would not exactly consider RBG a standard right now, at least I don't remember hearing anything much about this since that annoucement about 10 months ago. Maybe I live behind the moon or it is cause I stopped paying attention to Giacomo since he decided to shitpost about Counterparty a while back
  • @BitMichel #36695 06:53 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    How i can buy xcp for the troptions?
  • @heunland #36696 06:59 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    you want to buy XCP with TROPTIONS or you want to buy XCP so you can buy TROPTIONS with it
  • @BitMichel #36697 07:11 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    I want to transfer tropitions to xcp or btc. How i can make it?
  • @BitMichel #36698 07:11 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    Thanks
  • @heunland #36699 07:27 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    You can open a sell order of TROPTIONS vs XCP or BTC on the DEX
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #36693 #36701 08:45 PM, 01 Jun 2019
    Shitposting not only on XCP sadly
  • 02 June 2019 (21 messages)
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36703 04:03 AM, 02 Jun 2019
    Bittrex's XCP address has 113,611 spends, and they charge 0.2 XCP for a withdrawal. They're paying $4+ BTC right now to send people their XCP.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36704 04:04 AM, 02 Jun 2019
    1AeqgtHedfA2yVXH6GiKLS2JGkfWfgyTC6
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36706 04:05 AM, 02 Jun 2019
    552,228 XCP still on their wallet
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36708 04:07 AM, 02 Jun 2019
    Japan is going to rally around Counterparty
  • @Thetrueinvestor #36712 11:18 AM, 02 Jun 2019
    Where I can trade my XCP for BTC ?
  • @ffmad #36713 11:48 AM, 02 Jun 2019
    Dex
  • I think connecting to the Japanese community would be great , feels like there is a big gap . An exchange that offers trades for Japanese and us would be awesome 👍or get the word out to start using the dex ofc 😎
  • @XCERXCP #36717 02:41 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    I don’t know if this makes sense, but what if we burned xcp to create btc tokens on erc20. Since xcp was directly created from BTC, we extract the BTC value by burning xcp and transferring it to a ERC20 token. It would also lower the supply of xcp.
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #36693 #36718 02:41 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    "a standard"... that no one uses... sounds pretty "standard to me 😂
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #36717 #36719 02:59 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    Not Ethereum please 😒
  • @heunland ↶ Reply to #36717 #36720 03:36 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    sorry but what exactly is the point of this convoluted scheme? We can already trade real BTC for XCP or any other counterparty asset
  • @heunland #36721 03:37 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    I dont think lowering the supply of XCP even further needs to be a mayor goal here. Even the already existing deflation is not helping to boost it's trading price atm
  • @XCERXCP #36722 03:55 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    To raise the price. Extract value. Obviously the low price hurts development and bounties.
  • @XCERXCP #36723 03:55 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    And is the idea really a scheme? Makes sense to me.
  • @heunland #36724 04:30 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    sorry but having deflation in XCP has not been a deciding factor in what price the token got traded for on exchanges up to now. Speculators are not really even aware of this deflation feature existing and as you can see from ethereum and other inflationary coins with basically unlimited supply like ripple, that doesnt matter to traders when they decide what price they want to pay for these tokens.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36722 #36725 05:35 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    The values in the usage and the price will go up when it's easier to use
  • @XCERXCP #36726 05:55 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    Is there a way to reject incoming transactions coming into a btc wallet?
  • @heunland #36728 06:01 PM, 02 Jun 2019
    once on the blockchain, a transaction cannot be reversed
  • RAREAF 💕 helene
  • @heunland #36730 07:33 PM, 02 Jun 2019
  • 03 June 2019 (118 messages)
  • @BitMichel #36734 08:15 AM, 03 Jun 2019
    hello. why on conterwallet not i can for troptions buy xcp? orders on purchase no. where i still i can buy for troptions your tokens xcp?
  • @BitMichel #36735 08:25 AM, 03 Jun 2019
    Hey admin
  • @BitMichel #36737 11:25 AM, 03 Jun 2019
    Very good admin) answer my questions 😅👌
  • @ShawnLeary #36738 12:06 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    First question you should be asking yourself, why would anyone want to buy TROPTIONS?
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #36739 12:48 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Hi..where is xcp dex? In counterwallet?...im using freewallet and it seems the exchange is not ready..
  • @XCERXCP #36740 12:48 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Very good admin go somewhere else, don’t need your attitude here
  • @XCERXCP #36741 01:12 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Curious how many wallets have never been active since the burn and receiving xcp
  • @XCERXCP #36742 01:16 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    I say stop burning xcp on asset creation for x number of years and send it to a foundation fund for development - we need development and it’s not fair this whole project rests on a few community members - everyone wants development and our developers can’t be expected to work for free
  • @RonaldRubber #36743 01:31 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Are there any bounties out there that can be funded that would help the dex usability? What is the hold up on making it more user friendly?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36742 #36744 01:34 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    I think you are starting to realize that xcp does not represent the organization success but how to use the system created. it's a service.
  • @XCERXCP #36745 01:38 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    I don’t understand what you mean by that.
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #36743 #36747 02:14 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    unlock the DEx on freewallet would give everyone access in that software
  • @benchbtc #36748 02:14 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    not just those with FREEACCESS or XCHAINPEPE
  • @benchbtc #36749 02:15 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    someone made it a BITCORN funding thingy but i think i'm the only one that donated... 😕
  • where is that link to the bounty?
  • @benchbtc #36752 02:16 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    look sliek 4 people pledged actually
  • @benchbtc #36753 02:17 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    it should show it to you in freewallet if you don't have the access token
  • @benchbtc #36754 02:17 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    sumilar to how the betting bounty is displayed
  • @XCERXCP #36756 02:52 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Donate to jdog, I’ll donate 100xcp, if others match me?
  • @XCERXCP #36757 02:58 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Just sent 100 jdogs way
  • @krostue #36758 03:07 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    xcp is used to create assets. Jdog has already created quite a few
  • @XCERXCP #36759 03:08 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Who cares how many he has
  • @krostue #36760 03:08 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    xcp is not stock in the company (for lack of better metaphors)
    ETH cannot compare to XCP because the nature of the to things are so dissimilar
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36759 #36761 03:08 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    then why add 100 if no one cares?
  • @krostue #36762 03:09 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    he is not going to sell them
  • @krostue #36763 03:09 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    but he needs to pay bills
  • @krostue #36764 03:09 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    so what did we do here?
  • @krostue #36765 03:09 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    virtue sending?
  • @krostue #36767 03:11 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    case in point. if you really want to help Jdog, then buy his tokens from him. that is the structure he made. OR you can support any aspect of the work he is doing by financing certain bounties of his own
  • @krostue #36768 03:11 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    i am all about actually helping eachother
  • @XCERXCP #36769 03:11 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Which is what I just sent a 100 for, no?
  • @XCERXCP #36770 03:12 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Is that not supporting him and freewallet?
  • @krostue #36771 03:12 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    if you dont believe me, and want to waste his time, im sure will actually not help in the long run
  • @krostue #36772 03:12 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    what do you think of the latest topic on the message board?
  • @XCERXCP #36773 03:14 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Waste who’s time? I donate 100 to jdog and I’m waisting his time? That makes no sense.
  • Thank you for the donation. Please post your address and i'll send you a FULLACCESS token
  • @XCERXCP #36775 03:19 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Thanks jdog 1EuFfnego8Pgb3P1VuUdh283tewQws8Qd1
  • You didn't reply quick... so I just sent the token back to the address that sent me the XCP donation.
  • @jdogresorg #36778 03:21 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    sent one to your requested address now as well
  • @XCERXCP #36780 03:22 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Ha crap, ok awesome thanks
  • @benchbtc #36781 03:22 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    2 FULLACCESS, nice
  • @benchbtc #36782 03:22 PM, 03 Jun 2019
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36773 #36783 03:26 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    slow clap
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36765 #36784 03:37 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    ok mission accomplished. now. reviewing your short time here you have proposed something that you clarified at the beginning lacked logic, then a few messages later insisted it had merit because you understood it, despite just claiming otherwise.

    then you go on to tell an admin to go elsewhere because if his attitude all the while not keeping in mind poes law.

    so we here we are, im attempting to have a conversation with you, but it seems to be difficult. in retrospect, the reason i engaged with you in communication today is that you may embody the misunderstanding that is affecting most of the people who invested in XCP.
  • @XCERXCP #36785 03:39 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Wrong I was talking to Milkhail saying very good admin, answer my questions
  • @krostue #36786 03:40 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    XCP does not represent collective ownership but potential for personal claims/use.
    The function of this service token is to make it more difficult to spam the network. We dont have a problem with spam when hardly anyone uses it! lol ALSO, to think as a heavy user. I do not want to have to pay upwards of $50 worth of token to make one single asset as was the case with XCP peak. I would much rather the affordable quarter dollar per asset created. Why would i want to pay more as a user? THIS is what the token is for. Not to reward investors. Unfortunately, there is a strong #paradox to deal with here, and understanding it is the first step
  • @XCERXCP #36787 03:40 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Who is we? You mean you? I don’t misunderstand anything.
  • @krostue #36788 03:41 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    but you insist that you know the answers also. it is hard to navigate, yes
  • @XCERXCP #36789 03:41 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    No xcp offers the world’s most secure protection, it shouldn’t cost a $0.25, that’s ridiculous
  • @krostue #36790 03:41 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    please ask in complete sentences.
  • @krostue #36791 03:41 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    re: we/you
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36789 #36792 03:42 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    bitcoin offers the protection with every transaction
  • @krostue #36793 03:43 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    im totally willing to hash this out with you, and hope not to offend you!
  • @XCERXCP #36794 03:43 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Hash what out? I don’t have a problem.
  • @krostue #36795 03:45 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    ok. ill be here
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36787 #36796 03:49 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    since you misunderstand nothing. i look forward to the further insight you wish to share with this community
  • @XCERXCP #36797 03:50 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Your telling me I misunderstand. How do you know I misunderstand.
  • @krostue #36798 03:51 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    the telling belongs to the listener is seems
  • @krostue #36799 03:52 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    ^gonn write that one down
  • @XCERXCP #36800 03:52 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    What have you done done for xcp? I haven’t done much at all, what have you done. Please tell me? Show me a blog post, show me something.
  • @krostue #36801 03:52 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    or, we could have a conversation?
  • @XCERXCP #36802 03:52 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Yea go.
  • @krostue #36803 03:52 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    not too into reverse accusations
  • @krostue #36804 03:53 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    so far my word count is 10x yours. so as soon as you address anything ive said. until then :D
  • @krostue #36805 03:53 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    :thumb:
  • @XCERXCP #36806 03:53 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Ha exactly ty
  • @krostue #36807 03:53 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    exactly what?
  • @XCERXCP #36808 03:54 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Done talking to you
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36786 #36809 03:55 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    thanks to your participation today, it is not evident that there is too much cognitive dissonance to deliver a cohesive message to outsiders
  • @XCERXCP #36810 03:55 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Outsider, prob been here 10x longer than you, you know nothing
  • @XCERXCP #36811 03:55 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    About me
  • @krostue #36812 03:55 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    👂
  • @krostue #36813 03:56 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    🙇
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36800 #36814 03:56 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    may i see your creds, since you ask them of me?
  • @XCERXCP #36815 03:57 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    I don’t have any creds
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36810 #36816 04:00 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    you are in three xcp rooms. good for you. no project rooms though, this conversation was not supposed to be personalized. i mean to work through issues that are affecting the platform. If you or anyone else wants to chat about things, let me know. lets do it, here or private message. until then ad hominem is getting tiresome.
  • @XCERXCP #36817 04:02 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    We need funding for our developers, we need publicity to make to price rise so the developers have the incentive to perform cips.... that’s what I think
  • @XCERXCP #36818 04:03 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    I’ll be happy to help with that, tell me what I should do
  • Review this thread and share your thoughts here so that others can review your thoughts and comment. https://counterpartytalk.org/t/counterparty-foundation-in-2019-new-updates/5446
    Counterparty foundation in 2019? New updates?

    Greetings everyone! I’m Alan and I’ve loved using counterparty for years, as well as trading it on exchanges and using the dex, and multiple wallets. The recent delisting caught me off guard on poloniex and I was curious why this occured. I wasn’t actively involved in development or even talking with other counterpart users or devs (in the past) to use the dex or exchanges I didn’t need to. Anyway, I was like ok, other than just checking the monthly updates let me make a post on bitcointalk as ...

  • @XCERXCP #36820 04:05 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Nows perfect time to raise that funding with xcp because price so low. Then publicize to make price rise.
  • @jdogresorg #36821 04:05 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    It sounds to me like it might be time to call for another CP foundation election period where people can announce their candidacy... then a few weeks later hold a vote for a few weeks.... based on what i've read from that thread, general consensus seems to be that we need a group of people working together to move CP forward, hence another election seems logical.
  • @XCERXCP #36822 04:05 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Yea I read all those jdog multiple times, lots of good ideas
  • @jdogresorg #36823 04:06 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    👍
  • @XCERXCP #36824 04:06 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Please let’s make foundation ASAP, we need it so bad
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36819 #36825 04:18 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    i think OP may have sold his bags and moved on within a week. Time to start a new thread, perhaps. that one seems dead.
  • @krostue #36826 04:18 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    did we end up getting a news letter out this month?
  • The point of the post was to gauge interest in getting another CP Foundation election going and to get ideas from the community on how to best move CP forward... I think the post has served its purpose... seems pretty clear to me at least that we should have another CP election.... I'll try to get an announcement thrown together later this week or early next week.
  • Still being worked on.... should be out tomorrow I believe.
  • @krostue #36829 04:30 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    🙇
  • @XCERXCP #36831 05:10 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Dead? 😂 last comment 3 days ago, why would you start a new one. Over 50 great comments In that thread
  • @krostue #36835 05:42 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    3 days is currently the longest to get a response in that thread
  • @krostue #36836 05:42 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    i see that you like to use baseless accusations for the sake of argument.
  • @krostue #36837 05:42 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    kudos
  • @krostue #36838 05:43 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    thanks for simply informing us that it is "not dead" instead of actually bringing it to life
  • @XCERXCP #36842 06:08 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Who us? I’m talking to you
  • @483911280 #36844 06:08 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    I need to see more positivity out of everyone here.
  • @heunland #36847 06:11 PM, 03 Jun 2019
  • @heunland #36848 06:11 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    what they said
  • @krostue #36849 06:13 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    nice. suggestions then?
  • @krostue #36850 06:13 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    as you see this guy would like to be told what to do? so how about the positivity seekers offer a topic
  • @krostue #36851 06:13 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    is the idea of calling for a new election a good topic?
  • @krostue #36852 06:14 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    yall seem quick to dismiss the narrative based on tone, but not substance
  • @krostue #36853 06:14 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    walk the #paradox mentioned with me and seek your pleasure in clarification. 🙇❤
  • @krostue #36854 06:15 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    and please dont ban me bro
  • This good token)
  • @heunland #36856 06:50 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    Hmm I am not sure there are very many people that agree with that, but to each their own ...
  • @heunland #36857 06:50 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    _goes back to counting her stash of PEPECASH_
  • @BitMichel #36858 07:31 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    if you have attached tropions, it means not for nothing, then this is a good project
  • I'm happy that you're happy with your TROPTIONS
  • Brother you do not shake the skull?)))
  • @raretruck #36861 10:05 PM, 03 Jun 2019
    No I prefer my brains unscrambled
  • 04 June 2019 (84 messages)
  • Yes I agree
  • XCP can be used to buy assets created with XCP too, so it’s not quite the paradox you’re stating. The system exists beyond USD.

    XCP should never be pegged to a dollar amount, rather BTC. Assuming higher BTC-XCP volume on the DEx in the future, its price ratio could factor into the cost of asset creation instead of the flat 0.5 XCP.

    For instance, the price could be set to 50,000 SATs (0.00050000 BTC), so times like now would cost somewhere around 5-10 XCP to create an asset, but during the pamp where the price hit 0.01 BTC/XCP, it would cost 0.05 XCP.
  • @krostue #36875 01:57 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    ANY ASSET can be used to trade with. Advanced traders do not even use game currency or XCP and instead trade directly art for art. That is the metagame of collecting we are all playing on the protocol. if you stop to think about what i said you would see the duality of counter-interests
  • @krostue #36876 02:00 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    this conundrum is what is creating confusion. I am intending to battle the ignorance and not any certain individual. Anyone/Everyone is welcome to participate in the conversation on here or the messageboard... but i have reflected on it. I'm going to say it. Each on of the people above who said to "keep it positive" failed to weigh in recently with any substance. So, i welcome you to do so
  • @krostue #36877 02:05 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    to restate the #paradox in new words:

    XCP is a tool to reduce spamming the network. Primarily it is used to create Named assets. As an artist, I want to get the quality canvas for as cheap as possible. It is counter-intuitive to think an artist desires to pay any more than needed for materials.

    YET, many users seem to think that it represents a stake in the company or that it has some representation of the health of the network. Erroneously thinking the higher the trade value and the bigger the marketcap, the more successful the project is as a whole. Investors who are holding XCP for the sole purpose of selling it later at higher cost are not only using is wrong, but also are working against the purposeful users
  • @krostue #36878 02:09 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    one xcp is one xcp.
    one btc is one btc.
  • @krostue #36879 02:09 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    xcp is not btc
    but
    eth is eth is eth
  • @krostue #36880 02:10 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    let us observe Ravencoin user satisfaction with having to mine gas that pays to register assets. that is the way they went, right?
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36881 02:24 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Ethereum and Ravencoin created new chains rather than pegging onto an existing one. XCP is married to BTC, and BTC is the gas of the network. I think XCP’s model is better in the long run, but it certainly has its issues such as low exchange volume due to the lack of inflation from mining or BTC’s miner fees driving costs up.
  • I’m proposing a floating burn rate for asset creation, which would ultimately fix the price more so than the flat 0.5 XCP amount.
  • @krostue #36883 02:36 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    peg the value to BTC and then there is no purpose to use XCP.
    there is nothing wrong with the existing supply of XCP and it is more than fair that the market decides the value outside of the system.
  • @krostue #36884 02:39 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    im not sure why you are continuing to use shallow interpretations to converse with me. I do not appreciate that you assume that I have such a basic lack of understanding, repeatedly. Perhaps you are speaking to the audience? I do not care for this illogical reprocessing, I've seen it before. it has no merit
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36885 02:56 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    As you've said, the point of the XCP is to create assets, and you complained about the fluctating price. I'm shitballing an idea that could fix this problem. I stand by my idea.
  • @279114941 #36886 02:58 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    IMO xcp’s value is entirely related to the value of creating named assets on bitcoin. The market is not seeing it at the moment. That’s good for asset creation as it’s cheaper.
  • @279114941 #36887 02:59 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    I don’t know what it’s worth but it’s certainly worth ~$100 or so.
  • I agree, but I just think it's way undervalued right now.
  • @279114941 #36889 03:00 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    As it is the price of xcp has no affect on xcp functionality.
  • @benchbtc #36891 03:00 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    the most important thing everyone seems to keep forgetting
  • @279114941 #36892 03:01 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    There are certainly things that could help XCP price stability:
  • @279114941 #36893 03:01 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    More direct fiat-to-xcp onramps
  • @279114941 #36894 03:02 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    More exchanges listing XCP - whether it’s a fiat pair, btc pair or even a eth-xcp pair
  • @279114941 #36895 03:02 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Market makers
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36896 03:02 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Once the public learns how to possess their BTC, everyone would have an easy on ramp.
  • @279114941 #36897 03:03 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    I still believe that people (in general) don’t understand XCP
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36898 03:04 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    In some ways, I think XCP can make BTC more understandable.
  • @279114941 #36899 03:04 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    And 80% of the people that do understand are hostile to XCP because it undercuts the necessity of whatever “project” they’re currently working on/trying to pump
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36900 03:05 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    People (in general) don't understand BTC.
  • Related to this, I wouldn’t pay a dime to anyone for listing XCP. The fact that we don’t truck with “pumpers” shows that our community values are one and the same with bitcoin values.

    This should not be violated. You never recover your soul once first principles are violated.
  • @benchbtc #36903 03:08 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Buddha spitting mad truth this morning
  • @XCERXCP #36904 03:11 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    XCP is a tool to reduce spamming of the network - the higher the price, the lower the spam.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36885 #36905 03:12 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    differentiating complaints from discussion is an integral skill for effective communication
  • @XCERXCP #36906 03:17 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Some may consider your art work spam. Some may not. But ultimately the market will decide.
  • BTC's transactional costs are preventing spam right now.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36908 03:22 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    So far, almost 75,000 assets have been created, but I'm not sure how many named assets exactly. A little more than 5,000,000 can be created with the current supply (2.6m) and cost (0.5). Should that 5 million figure be reduced?
  • @XCERXCP #36909 03:23 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    I agree. But the protocol matters. Anyone can go and create a copy of XCP. It’s the history of the network that gives it value over copiers. The history is valuable. To think XCP should always be cheap gives the network history no value.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36911 03:27 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    XCP is truly excercising BTC's store of value.
  • @benchbtc #36913 03:30 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    i think it will also be interesting to see how it ends up being inpretented as an exercise in the bitcoin blockchain's usability as a 'universal' time stamping tool
  • @benchbtc #36914 03:31 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    storing hash's of documents in the description field (or other methods, joe mentioned at Rare AF2 that freeport stores the hashes in 'Broadcasts' rather then the description field as i have done)
  • @benchbtc #36915 03:33 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    *interpreted
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36916 03:45 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Would a broadcast allow for more space? I remember reading you needed to use an alternative hashing method due to the memo's size constraints. Otherwise, it seems like posting the hash in the memo is a better method. It's more up front.
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #36916 #36917 03:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    yes i beleive it does, i don't remember what Joe said he was using, he said in an answer to my question at his talk, but it wasn't md5
  • @benchbtc #36918 03:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    which is, unfortinetly, what i've used since it fits
  • @benchbtc #36919 03:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    he wasn't using SHA256 though
  • @843745155 #36920 03:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Wanted to buy some XCP.
    I have BTC, i can go first if you can prove that you own XCP.
    Cannot use exchange because ongoing verification.
    PM Offers. Thanks.
  • @benchbtc #36921 03:47 PM, 04 Jun 2019
  • @benchbtc #36922 03:47 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    just need an email
  • @benchbtc #36923 03:47 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    unless your scamming 😉
  • or send your BTC to a counterwallet.io and post a trade on the DEx
  • @benchbtc #36925 03:48 PM, 04 Jun 2019
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36927 03:50 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Someone bought 10 XCP for 0.00149540 BTC 2 days ago
  • I did 😶
  • Cool 😎
  • It does
  • Did you just use the word "truck" as a pejorative?
  • @raretruck #36933 05:37 PM, 04 Jun 2019
  • Description field will fit SHA1, but that was badly broken a couple weeks ago. It was weakly broken a couple years ago, meaning that you could not produce any collision you want at all. Now you can, and it's affordable to do so. So yes, you need more room for one of the SHA2 or SHA3 algos. Either the description field gets bigger, or broadcasting is a solution I don't know what's the good answer.
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #36934 #36935 05:45 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    yeah we use md5 even though it's kinda broken
  • @mightbemike #36936 05:45 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    MD5 is way beyod broken. It's completely rekt.
  • @mightbemike #36937 05:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Use SHA1 at least.
  • @benchbtc #36938 05:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    it still essentially does the job, considering finding a colision would likely be obviously not the intended card art
  • @mightbemike #36939 05:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    MD5 was rekt in the 1990s.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #36938 #36940 05:46 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    I would actually pay to see that fake
  • @GusGrillasca #36941 05:47 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    make description great again
  • @279114941 #36944 05:55 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Not meant to be pejorative
  • @raretruck #36945 06:01 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Oh, well... I've got no truck with you then
  • @krostue #36946 06:02 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Zero trucks given
  • @279114941 #36948 06:07 PM, 04 Jun 2019
  • @c0rnh0li0 #36949 08:34 PM, 04 Jun 2019
  • @XCERXCP #36951 10:16 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    So if I send an asset to my coinbase address, technically it’s there, coinbase just doesn’t allow me access to it
  • @XCERXCP #36952 10:17 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    But the asset will appear on xchain for my coinbase address
  • @mightbemike #36953 10:20 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    It's there, but you've lost control of it. Coinbase has the private key, so I think you're screwed.
  • @mightbemike #36954 10:22 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Unless Coinbase has changed a lot since I looked. Any current CB users out there?
  • @XCERXCP #36955 10:24 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    No I didn’t do it. I’m just saying people could buy the assets/tokens with a coinbase wallet, it just won’t show on cb
  • @mightbemike #36956 10:27 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    And they can't send them from there to a Counterpary-aware wallet AFAIK.
  • @jdogresorg #36957 10:28 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    Yes, technically Counterparty assets can live at any Bitcoin address... but as mightbemike has indicated, if you send your Counterparty assets to an address you don't hold the private key to, then the assets are not really your assets.
  • @ShawnLeary #36958 10:35 PM, 04 Jun 2019
    When Litecoin port? ;)
  • 05 June 2019 (10 messages)
  • You gifted it to coinbase. It's not your address. They only accepted to credit BTC sent to that address.
  • @XCERXCP #36969 08:09 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    Well yea, but it’s still connected to my wallet. Just curious if we sent enough coins to coinbase user wallets, would that put more pressure on coinbase to show xcp tokens
  • @XCERXCP #36970 08:24 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    I liked the callback feature because it allowed a solution for kyc compliance
  • @jdogresorg #36971 08:32 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    callback feature only worked globally... to call back ALL tokens, not just selectively calling back tokens from specific addresses
  • @jdogresorg #36972 08:32 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    CIP - Callback (buy back) for reusable assets

    This is an updated re-post of my comment in the topic referenced below. Introduction It appears some assets (use cases) would benefit from the ability to be called back. Now we have subassets so on the one hand you can create disposable subassets, but in some cases it’d be better to have an asset (or subasset) that does what the name says it does, rather than have to look it up in a database or Web site. Use Case 1: Reusable Tokens Certain assets - if you want to reuse them - should be callabl...

  • @XCERXCP #36973 08:38 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    Yea, I understand that, and while I’m sure it would be expensive to recall globally, it does allow for security providers to reassign securities to proper legal holders and give a huge reason not to hold that coin if your not legally allowed. You would lose all value instantly if recalled and redistributed.
  • @jdogresorg #36974 08:39 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    My concerns are listed in the forum thread linked above.
  • @XCERXCP #36975 08:52 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    If a hacker calls back all assets, the security provider could just use history prior to redistribute. I like the point in regards of the scammer singling one person out. I think that pushes me to global only. In regards to value being returned if called back, I think that would have to be left up to the courts, they would have a record of the call back and non redistribution
  • @XCERXCP #36976 08:54 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    Bearer bonds are illegal. Every xcp token that wants to be a security can’t if I understand correctly
  • @XCERXCP #36977 08:58 PM, 05 Jun 2019
    You know what’s amazing, you can buy a share of stock, say I don’t want it anymore and someone must get it. You can’t burn a share of stock. Someone always has to hold it.
  • 06 June 2019 (29 messages)
  • @690930347 #36984 01:31 AM, 06 Jun 2019
    Hi.
    Does Counterparty support Bitcoin Core v0.18.0?
    I know Counterpary supports until v0.16.3.
    Counterparty-lib 9.56.0 released!
    December 28, 2018
    This release includes SegWit support on testnet (effective immediately) and on mainnet (effective from an activation block). This release also includes an update to use the latest version of Bitcoin Core 0.16.3, replaces the addrindex patch dependency with indexd, and includes additional changes and improvements listed in CIP19.

    refs
    https://counterparty.io/
    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/indexd-server
    https://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-lib-9-56-0/
  • @jdogresorg #36985 02:40 AM, 06 Jun 2019
    CP does not officially support core 0.18.0 yet.... I have been running 0.17.1 without any issues for the past month or so... but I believe that 0.18.0 has some breaking changes which John is looking into before we can officially support 0.18.0
  • @jdogresorg
    Thank you very much!
  • @TitaniumP #36995 11:22 AM, 06 Jun 2019
    Zaif!
  • @Raresaestheth #36996 12:00 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    Hello guys, I want to know if I'm alone to have my xcp on poloniex and I just discovered that they charged 16xcp as exit fees... Anyone have know if it's a bugs or the insane but real fees?
  • @Raresaestheth #36997 12:01 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    I will lost more than 55% of the total of my holding...
  • @krostue #36998 12:01 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    Seems excessive, but realistic :(
  • @Raresaestheth #36999 12:02 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    In comparison of the other fees... I don't understand
  • @krostue #37000 12:02 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    Wonder what they think they are going to do with all the leftover
  • @Raresaestheth #37001 12:02 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    ...
  • @406592775 #37002 12:03 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    how can be sold xcp at this moment? zaif doesn't accept new registration and on dex i don't see xcp-btc orders
  • @krostue #37003 12:04 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    If they take that much for every single user and the other exchanges closed what are they going to do with all the remainder? Oh well. Send there is nothing that can be done. They have changed up to thirty dollars worth of xcp per withdrawal before
  • @krostue #37004 12:05 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    There is an upgrade around the corner that will empower theDEX to exchange btc for any asset easier
  • @406592775 #37005 12:07 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    ok thanks
  • I pointed out earlier that Bittrex is paying around $8 in BTC transaction fees to send people their XCP while only retaining 0.2 XCP. It seems like poloniex is factoring in that cost, using XCP’s last US exchange price of around $0.50. It does seem silly that they would retain so much XCP after delisting it though.
  • @Raresaestheth #37007 12:45 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    Yep... A shame
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #37008 01:15 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    Which Dex can trade xcp??
  • Tux exchange and counterwallet. Io are both options
  • @benchbtc #37011 03:15 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    tux is heating up a bit
  • @benchbtc #37012 03:15 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    .4 BTC in 24 hour volume on xcp
  • @benchbtc #37013 03:15 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    up to .000145
  • @benchbtc #37014 03:15 PM, 06 Jun 2019
  • @raretruck #37017 07:55 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    Both counterwallet and coindaddy are down again
  • @raretruck #37018 07:55 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    [6/6/2019 17:45:49.225] Got an error when trying to sync BTC balances: JSON-RPC Error: <p><b>Type:</b> Server error</p><p><b>Code:</b> -32000</p><p><b>Message:</b> Got back error from server: {'code': -32000, 'data': {'message': 'Cannot communicate with mainnet indexd server at http://indexd:8432/a/14G9X7j8v1bUqLY8DqD24A5sV78qfERG79/utxos.', 'args': ['Cannot communicate with mainnet indexd server at http://indexd:8432/a/14G9X7j8v1bUqLY8DqD24A5sV78qfERG79/utxos.'], 'type': 'IndexdRPCError'}, 'message': 'Server error'}</p>
  • @jdogresorg #37020 09:52 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    fixed... indexd on both servers died... restarted the service on both servers.
  • @benchbtc #37021 09:59 PM, 06 Jun 2019
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #37026 #37031 11:14 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    🙇
  • @krostue #37032 11:15 PM, 06 Jun 2019
    sorry i mistook your intermittent connectivity for waining interest.
  • 07 June 2019 (14 messages)
  • @lwvwlcn #37038 10:42 AM, 07 Jun 2019
    Where or which exchange can I buy some xcp right now?
  • @lwvwlcn #37039 10:43 AM, 07 Jun 2019
    And what's the price of a xcp now?
  • @benchbtc #37040 11:11 AM, 07 Jun 2019
  • @benchbtc #37041 11:12 AM, 07 Jun 2019
    .00008494 lowest ask
  • @XCERXCP #37050 04:21 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    3 more sends!!!
  • @XCERXCP #37056 07:03 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    Wrap a token around an address and have the protocol do X with the btc when it receives x external token. So x can only happen when it receives x token - the token is a public private key and the code of x token address is transparent. So whoever operates x token has the ability to be an Oracle, but doesn’t have the ability to steal funds
  • @XCERXCP #37057 08:28 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    Congrats to xcp team, 1,000,000 sends
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37058 08:29 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    I see 1,000,021 sends
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37059 08:30 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    That might count unconfirmed...
  • nope... the count only shows confirmed transactions.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37064 09:45 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    What are the two numbers in the Unconfirmed line? - 10,755 / 23
  • @jdogresorg #37065 10:00 PM, 07 Jun 2019
    first number is unconfirmed bitcoin transactions... second number is unconfirmed Counterparty transactions
  • 08 June 2019 (6 messages)
  • @798755960 #37078 07:16 PM, 08 Jun 2019
    saw in freewallet some announcement that looks like a scam. redirects to a fake counterwallet page requesting people to enter their passphrase to claim their reward. how can such stuff be cleaned up?
  • @279114941 #37080 07:49 PM, 08 Jun 2019
    ?
  • @798755960 #37086 09:28 PM, 08 Jun 2019
    yes?
  • I’m guessing this is in relation to counter event. That is totally scammy. They spent the money to create the asset and send it to active addresses it seems. I imagine this isn’t terribly profitable if at all. That should help clean it up. Otherwise, I’m not sure what can be done.
  • As the developer of freewallet.io, I can assure you that the wallet does not support "announcements" nor does it redirect to any fake counterwallet page..... Perhaps your thinking of something else other than freewallet.io
  • @jdogresorg #37089 10:36 PM, 08 Jun 2019
    We have seen scams like this in the past where a gift/reward is promised and users are taken to a fake counterwallet login page in an attempt to steal peoples 12-word passphrase, but none of it is through freewallet.io.
  • 09 June 2019 (58 messages)
  • @798755960 #37092 01:50 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    sorry looks like my message just got blocked because I put information in about the scam... let me try again.
  • @798755960 #37093 01:51 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    This is definitely in freewallet and it is counter event. It is displayed as a new asset in my portfolio with a balance and even shows a USD value.
  • @798755960 #37094 01:52 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    If the asset is clicked, it states in the "Additional Information" field the website that needs to be visited to claim a bonus. The website is a redirect to a scam counterwallet page.
  • @798755960 #37095 01:53 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    so it may not "support announcements", but someone is certainly using freewallet as a way to promote, announce, and redirect users to their phishing site.
  • @krostue #37096 01:54 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    "...the more transactions in your address, the more likely the XCP/BTC you get!"
  • @krostue #37097 01:55 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    sure reads like a scam!
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37098 01:55 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    The scammers are using counterparty, freewallet is just your portal to see what your address holds
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37099 01:56 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    Anyone is able to send anyone anything on the network, so there’s nothing freewallet or any other service can do to prevent that.
  • @798755960 #37100 01:56 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    I get that.
  • @krostue #37101 01:57 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    it gets even better. i entered a blank wallet, and got this:
  • @krostue #37102 01:57 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    Success Please Wait Upto 24 Hours For Validaton Wallet.
    Note:
    * For security systems without cheating.
    * Only for accounts that already have transactions.
    * If you want to claim bonus +1,000 XCP you must have a minimum balance 1,000 XCP.
    * If you want to claim bonus +0.63 BTC you must have a minimum balance 0.63 BTC.
    * If not eligible, bonus cannot be found.
  • @798755960 #37103 01:57 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    sure they can. freewallet cannot add any disclaimers in the app?
  • @krostue #37104 01:58 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    buyer beware is relevant in the whole internet, crypto especially
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37105 01:58 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    It’s an open-source Peer 2 Peer system, that’s the disclaimer
  • @krostue #37106 01:59 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    perhaps you are confusing an explorer with a curation function
  • @798755960 #37107 01:59 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    I think that's fine if the goal is to be a nice blockchain.
  • @798755960 #37108 01:59 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    *niche
  • @798755960 #37109 01:59 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    i'm talking about user adoption, and using tools like freewallet to facilitate that.
  • @krostue #37110 01:59 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    rarepepe or any other project acts as a curator, screening assets for approval. xchain simply shows anything on the network.
  • @krostue #37111 02:00 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    the scammers figured out how to use it. soon valiant users to follow
  • @798755960 #37112 02:01 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    agreed, but all participants in the network (projects, providers, etc.) have the ability to do their part to minimize confusion, thwart scams, etc.
  • or valiant users never arrive because of the scams
  • @krostue #37114 02:02 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    that is not the way adoption works
  • @798755960 #37115 02:02 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    uh huh
  • @krostue #37116 02:03 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    right. so let us get to the ponit. you are accusing the community of not notifying you that this may be a scam?
  • @krostue #37117 02:03 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    are you part of the community? if so, then the community did step up. what is the next plan? an official tweet questioning the asset?
  • @798755960 #37118 02:03 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    yes, let's get to the point since you like to throw out assumptions.
  • @krostue #37119 02:03 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    im not trying to start shit. just wanna know what you think we should do, together
  • @krostue #37120 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    not making assumptions.
  • @krostue #37121 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    looking to clarify
  • @krostue #37122 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    correct me
  • @krostue #37123 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    perhaps report the site to google?
  • @krostue #37124 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    as phishing scam
  • @798755960 #37125 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    I come to offer information in case someone (specifically j-dog, since it's his app), wants to consider doing something with the info. I really could care less what you or others think.
  • @krostue #37126 02:04 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    lets fix this
  • @krostue #37127 02:05 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    yet here we are talking about it
  • @798755960 #37128 02:05 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    you seem to be doing all the talking my friend. have a great day.
  • I agree. I believe USD values should be removed from xchain and wallets
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #37128 #37130 02:05 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    👂
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #37129 #37131 02:05 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    in the next explorer, this is a great idea
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37132 02:06 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    People make a trade with themselves on the dex and suddenly they have $669,420,666
  • @krostue #37133 02:08 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    complaining fixes everything. if just more people complained there would be no problems left. is this a complaint? who knows
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37134 02:14 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    🚨SCAM ALERT🚨
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37135 02:16 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    Market Cap should show 1,000,000,000 XCP rather than the dollar amount. It seems like troptions has been scamming with this too.
  • So, it is an asset with a description that links to a website.....All that freewallet.io is doing is showing you the asset description.
  • Add a disclaimer for what? That someone might put in a website description that links to a website which might be used to scam people? Again, all the wallet is doing is showing the asset description.... and actually, the wallet doesn't do anything but show you some text... no way to click a link and visit the url, you have to manually type it in... this is not an issue in freewallet.io
  • @jdogresorg #37139 02:29 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    That is what the asset looks like in freewallet... no link to the scam url... and if you click "more info" button, then you are taken to the blockchain explorer page for the asset... NOT to the scam website
  • @jdogresorg #37140 02:30 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    TL;DR... this is not an issue with freewalet or something that needs to be addressed in freewallet... I built and included the "reputation system" into the wallet for this exact reason... if you think the asset/token is a scam, then click the "Feedback" button and leave a negative rating.
  • @krostue #37141 02:32 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    Last seen 10:08
  • @krostue #37142 02:32 AM, 09 Jun 2019
    If he actually had concerns he would have stuck around for the solution instead of just troll baiting and bailing
  • @279114941 #37143 03:39 PM, 09 Jun 2019
  • @798755960 #37147 07:39 PM, 09 Jun 2019
    uh troll baiting and balling? I have better things to do with my life than sit on a telegram chat all day.
  • @798755960 #37148 07:41 PM, 09 Jun 2019
    I offered some constructive feedback. To say "this is not an issue" doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement.
  • @798755960 #37149 07:41 PM, 09 Jun 2019
    If you want to take the feedback, fine. If you're not interested, that's fine too.
  • @798755960 #37150 07:45 PM, 09 Jun 2019
    freewallet is certainly a fine tool. never said it wasn't. is it good for what it does? yep. are there opportunities for UI/UX improvements? yep.
  • @798755960 #37151 07:46 PM, 09 Jun 2019
    anyway, on with the rest of my day. good day to you all.
  • @raretruck #37152 08:26 PM, 09 Jun 2019
    Crypto Exchange Bittrex to Block US Users From Trading in 32 Cryptos

    Cryptocurrency exchange Bittrex announced that it will block United States-based users from trading in 32 cryptocurrencies.

  • 10 June 2019 (43 messages)
  • @OxD3gen #37155 04:36 AM, 10 Jun 2019
    When did XCP get delisted on trex?
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37156 05:08 AM, 10 Jun 2019
    May 31st
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #37159 05:25 AM, 10 Jun 2019
    Seems like binance will also block user fron US..
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #37147 #37163 12:26 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    thanks for carefully choosing your words that prove my point
  • @krostue #37164 12:27 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    come here to learn, or to boss everyone around?
  • @krostue #37165 12:28 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    freewallet is not to blame for any phishing scam.
    TFW the "solutions" are worse than the problem
  • @krostue #37166 12:34 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    when i lost funds on eth2cash dot com it was not the fault of Ethereum Foundation. Especially not the problem of the wallet developers.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #37157 #37167 12:41 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    CBECPIST
  • Yeah, I was scratching my head at their “COEXIST” creation, but it’s cool to see counterparty on it. I snagged this pic from r/cryptocurrency yesterday, but the hat is several years old. Maybe some of you have seen it before, but I had not.
  • @krostue #37169 02:16 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    naw, i know how to read it and took it a step furthur
  • @877200390 #37171 02:53 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    WARNING
    Telegram has made some updates to the platform and have made your Phone Number Privacy setting set to be able to be seen by Everyone in your contacts by default.
    You need to change it to "Nobody"
    People are being SIM hacked and having their Crypto Stolen, because of this lack of security.
    Go to the Telegram App>Settings>Privacy and Security>Phone Number> select Nobody
  • @heunland #37174 03:52 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    thanks for the heads up! that really is a dangerous default setting
  • @jdogresorg #37175 04:48 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    [ANN] Start of the Counterparty Foundation 2019 Election - Nomination Period (Jun 10th - July 1st)

    Announcing the Start of the Counterparty Foundation 2019 Election - Nomination Period (June 10th - July 1st) The Counterparty Foundation is a group dedicated to advancing the Counterparty protocol and its products, educating the community on the Counterparty technology, driving global Counterparty awareness, and ensuring Counterparty remains a successful and growing platform. The Foundation is governed by five Community Directors. Today, we’re happy to announce the start of the Counterparty ...

  • @104473096 #37177 05:20 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    🎉
  • In case I would like to nominate myself, the process is straightforward. However, in case that I would like to nominate another candidate how exactly the process works? Can I nominate another candidate by using my wallet (as a proof of holding more than 50XCP)? Should the candidate that I nominate hold also more than 50XCP? Should the candidate that I nominate be aware OR/AND agree that I propose him/her as a candidate? For example, can I just propose JDog or John as a candidate?
  • @104473096 #37179 06:32 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    You could agree with the candidate
  • @104473096 #37180 06:32 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    But i wouldn't like being in the foundation again
  • @104473096 #37181 06:33 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    I can be around as counselor
  • @104473096 #37182 06:33 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    And general code monkey
  • Anyone can nominate a candidate. The candidate should be notified that they have been nominated. The candidate can then accept or reject the nomination. If accepting the nomination, they would then need to post some basic info on themselves, including the proof of owning at least 50 XCP.
  • 👍
  • @jdogresorg #37187 07:07 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    FYI, I can not serve on the foundation, as I am the CIP Custodian (holder of the general/dev funds), and it would be a conflict of interest for me to hold the funds, as well as have a vote on how the funds are spent.
  • @104473096 #37188 07:08 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    and from last time, as dev and foundation member, i had to refrain from a lot of votes due to the conflict of interests
  • Iam so happy!
  • All due respect, shouldn't a foundation control the funds? Creating another powerless foundation is surely going to fail again, no?
  • @jdogresorg #37191 09:09 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    The foundation does control the funds. The funds are not spent without the foundation saying so first. Also, the foundation is free to elect another CIP custodian if they see fit. I was elected by the last foundation as the CIP Custodian per the CIP bounties guidelines laid out in https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0008.md
    CounterpartyXCP/cips

    Counterparty Improvement Proposals. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/cips development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @jdogresorg #37192 09:10 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    The funds, and all counterparty properties (counterparty.io, counterwallet.io, counterpartytalk.org) are under the control of the CP foundation... I am simply the one who was handed control of the CP properties by the foundation and Robby when he left.... If the foundation wants to change something, they have all the power to do so.
  • @mightbemike #37194 09:14 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    Shouldn't you be on the foundation then? There seems to be a disconnect between the actual levers of power and the foundation. This was an issue last time, no?
  • Also... FYI... The foundation didnt fail because it was powerless... it failed because certain community members took to attacking the volunteer foundation and developer and the remaining foundation members decided it was no longer worth being attacked, so they closed up the foundation and assigned all the remaining funds to be used for CIP bounties
  • wasn't an issue, can confirm
  • @raretruck #37197 09:15 PM, 10 Jun 2019
  • @104473096 #37198 09:15 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    everything the foundation said, the custodian (jdog) in this case was paid
  • @mightbemike #37199 09:17 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    So the foundation has no actual control over the official websites or the development funds. How can this NOT lead to problems?
  • @jdogresorg #37200 09:17 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    As I have said previously, the properties are owned by the CP foundation, I am just the one who has been running the sites (on my own dime, to the cost of about $250-500/mo).... If the CP foundation wants to appoint someone else to run the sites, I am happy to hand over all properties
  • it has control over those
  • @104473096 #37202 09:19 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    they just appoint someone to control them
  • @104473096 #37203 09:19 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    last foundation appointed jdog
  • @jdogresorg #37204 09:20 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    Yep. If the foundation wants to appoint someone else as CIP custodian, and take control of the website properties and run them on their own, I will happily hand over control...... Up until now no one else has wanted to take on the responsability so I have been stuck with it... This is not a situation of me trying to maintain control over anything... Everything is owned by the community, represented by the CP foundation, and I am happy to hand over control of whatever they want.
  • @104473096 #37205 09:21 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    with a power vacuum that came from the whole foundation resigning, the only person that was left with some decision power was jdog and the only one with some decision making over the code was me
  • @jdogresorg #37206 09:21 PM, 10 Jun 2019
    Not sure why it would be an issue at this point as I have done nothing but help support CP and pay out funds to developers per the previous foundations request... but again... if the foundation wants to change things, they can.
  • None
  • 11 June 2019 (19 messages)
  • @483911280 #37215 01:00 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    I thought we just had an election a month or so back?
  • @jdogresorg #37216 01:11 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    No, we did not, or we would not be having an election now.
  • Bitcorn Foundation held elections then
  • @483911280 #37219 01:37 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    This is so embarrassing. I was 100% sure I got elected CEO of Counterparty
  • @Nickst2 #37220 01:38 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    Better luck next time kid.
  • @483911280 #37224 04:04 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    How much does a XCP foundation person get paid?
  • @jdogresorg #37225 04:08 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    It is an unpaid position. Funds are for dev, marketing, and server hosting only
  • @483911280 #37226 04:51 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    Can the foundation vote to change that?
  • @jdogresorg #37227 04:56 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    Sure, once a foundation is elected, they can vote to change the bylaws
  • @483911280 #37228 05:21 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    How much money is in the fund?
  • @jdogresorg #37229 05:31 AM, 11 Jun 2019
    Less than 2 btc... will dig up exact amount tomorrow
  • @c0rnh0li0 #37235 02:37 PM, 11 Jun 2019
    Infowars Agrees to Part Ways With Pepe the Frog

    Matt Furie, the creator of Pepe, sued to stop its use by the far-right website. Infowars agreed on Monday, paying a $15,000 settlement.

  • @raretruck #37236 02:41 PM, 11 Jun 2019
    Admin please unban @Worldchaplin
  • Unbanned. He was banned by Shawn Leary in the past... not sure why.
  • @raretruck #37241 04:32 PM, 11 Jun 2019
    Thank you
  • @jdogresorg #37242 04:32 PM, 11 Jun 2019
  • @483911280 #37243 04:33 PM, 11 Jun 2019
    It’s an honor to have @Worldchaplin back
  • Thank you dearly noble
  • 12 June 2019 (3 messages)
  • @TitaniumP #37251 10:16 AM, 12 Jun 2019
    Welcome back mang
  • @jdogresorg #37252 04:03 PM, 12 Jun 2019
    Counterparty

    There's some exciting news from the #counterparty community this month including a new Counterparty foundation election, new CIPs, and a new counterparty side-chain project! https://t.co/qoa5XTfFZ6 #XCP #Counterparty #BTC @Indie_Square @mafiawars_io @FoldingCoin

  • Thank you family
  • 13 June 2019 (79 messages)
  • @XCERXCP #37265 03:42 AM, 13 Jun 2019
    CIP21 and Hazama
  • @XCERXCP #37266 03:42 AM, 13 Jun 2019
    Sounds awesome!
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37252 #37267 03:43 AM, 13 Jun 2019
    Awesome
  • @745133949 #37271 09:49 AM, 13 Jun 2019
    Hello, this is HUBI Exchange Business.
  • Hello, this is TRUCK
  • @benchbtc #37279 03:38 PM, 13 Jun 2019
  • @raretruck #37280 03:39 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Skrrrrrrrr!
  • @XCERXCP #37284 07:07 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Wow
  • @XCERXCP #37285 07:09 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    So Hazama pegs a price at entry and exit? All coins for a particular asset have same exit and entry price in btc? Is that correct?
  • @Worldchaplain #37286 07:11 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    They could if we work certain token project like member firms of the community this is something that we need to discuss as a whole community
  • @XCERXCP #37287 07:13 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I’m just confused on how it works... I send 5 Pepe’s to Hazama, the peg just means it holds 5 tokens in the xcp wallet, while 5 are are on the centralized chain?
  • @XCERXCP #37288 07:14 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    5 Pepe’s
  • @XCERXCP #37289 07:14 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Just like polo or whatever basically, but in a community pool that can peg it out if we want to go back to the btc chain
  • @104473096 #37290 07:18 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    1 to 1, 2-way peg of tokens
  • @104473096 #37291 07:18 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    i.e. 1 ROCK goes in, you get 1 ROCK issued to your private address
  • @104473096 #37292 07:19 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    you withdraw that ROCK on hazama, you get a ROCK out
  • @104473096 #37293 07:19 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    internally there's a dex
  • @104473096 #37294 07:19 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    etc
  • @104473096 #37295 07:19 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    all counterparty niceties
  • @XCERXCP #37296 07:19 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Can you exchange with other tokens or no?
  • @XCERXCP #37297 07:20 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I send 1 rock, I trade 1 rock for 1 marble, I withdraw 1 marble
  • @104473096 #37298 07:22 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Yup
  • @104473096 #37299 07:22 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    As long as someone pegged in 1 marble
  • @XCERXCP #37300 07:23 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Fucking awesome, love it
  • Beautiful
  • @ShawnLeary #37302 07:26 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    anyone interested in setting up a new Official chat for Counterparty? i’m trying to cut down on the number of chats i’m in. i think if i leave the chat could be destroyed so if someone could host a new one that would be greatly appreciated. thanks
  • @krostue #37303 07:26 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    yes
  • @ShawnLeary #37304 07:27 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    @CounterpartyXCP still squatted?
  • @ShawnLeary #37305 07:27 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    yep never mind on that one
  • @XCERXCP #37306 07:27 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Shawn you not here? Anymore?
  • @ShawnLeary #37307 07:27 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    @Counterparty i’m still banned in
  • @krostue #37308 07:27 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    still the trump dojo
  • yep, trying to cut back, i have a telegram addiction, i need help
  • @XCERXCP #37310 07:28 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Lmao
  • @ShawnLeary #37311 07:28 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    my kids are seeing my buried in my phone too much
  • @ShawnLeary #37312 07:28 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    me
  • @XCERXCP #37313 07:28 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I’m very excited about Hazama, this brings xcp to a whole new level
  • @krostue #37314 07:29 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I set up a chat off telegram because some users wish to remain anon and not get burner phone even
    https://riot.im/app/#/room/#counterparty:matrix.org
  • @krostue #37315 07:29 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    i had not announced it in any way yet though
  • @ShawnLeary #37316 07:29 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    doubt it will take off, but good to know about it.
  • @krostue #37317 07:31 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    yeah. but as for telegram, why not just keep this room and add admins?
  • @krostue #37318 07:31 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    allow jdog to add admins, based on the election would be the best answer, imho
  • Yes cause we need to clean out all these deleted accounts
  • @Worldchaplain #37320 07:33 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I have a counterparty base chat on here for our token(s) projects
  • @483911280 #37321 07:35 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I’ll take over as admin
  • @Worldchaplain #37322 07:39 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Or we have Dans chat
  • @XCERXCP #37323 07:48 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Hazama going to open a whole new world for xcp.
  • @XCERXCP #37324 07:49 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Do we have a donation fund for paying server costs?
  • @jdogresorg #37326 07:54 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    No, when the foundation went away so did the general donation address. Any remaining funds were to be spent on funding CIPs. Once the foundation starts back up again, they can vote to setup another general donation address again and collect donations into a general fund, as well as collect donations to specific CIPs. All the server operating costs for the past year have been covered by me personally to the tune of $250-$500/mo.... I suspect once the foundation gets booted back up, one of the first topics should be how to cover its operating costs, as I can no longer continue to bear this cost myself.
  • @heunland ↶ Reply to #37317 #37327 08:04 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I think what @ShawnLeary is looking for is to surrender ownership of this group? Please note that if the owner of a group leaves that group or is banned somehow from Telegram, noone else will be able to do anything that only the owner/creator can do. And I think that also includes adding or deleting admins
  • @heunland #37328 08:05 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I am not even sure if the creator can change some admin's status to creator and remove themselves after that. It may be necessary to contact telegram support to get it done.
  • @jdogresorg #37329 08:06 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Group creator transferring ownership

    Hi. So I am an administrator for a very large supergroup. The current owner wants to hand it over to me. Is it possible for the current creator of...

  • @heunland #37330 08:08 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I would be very careful with this as we already have experienced what happens when the creator leaves in another group
  • @krostue #37331 08:09 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    admins making more admins is a setting
  • @heunland #37332 08:09 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    if full rights can be assigned to someone else that would be helpful
  • @jdogresorg #37333 08:09 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I just verified, I am able to add admins... I made Bench an admin and then removed his admin powers.
  • there are admins but as creator of channel not sure i can leave, but don’t want you to lose all the active peeps. many of those in this chat are from Twitter promotions that I did to get people in here a couple years back. not sure how many are real or still active
  • @jdogresorg #37335 08:09 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Just stick around shawn... lurk 🙂
  • @heunland #37336 08:10 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    you can just mute the channel
  • @krostue #37337 08:10 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    hate to admit it, but i made a room with an account that got deleted to neglect. the room is still there
  • @heunland #37338 08:10 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    yes the room will still be there and can never be deleted later
  • @ShawnLeary #37339 08:11 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    i can’t help but read the chats, part of my problem
  • @heunland #37340 08:11 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    and unless you have admins with sufficiently high permissions, also you wont be able to pin anything or any of those things
  • @krostue #37342 08:11 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    sounds more like you need to get a sock for important stuff only
  • @krostue #37343 08:12 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    and go silent on the main one
  • @ShawnLeary #37344 08:12 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    yea also having my real name in a lot of chats probably isn’t smart
  • @krostue #37345 08:12 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    depends on your angle
  • @krostue #37346 08:13 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    best of luck to you getting it settled :D
  • This what one are concerns is thank you for this information... Got to do some community brainstorming as we go
  • @XCERXCP #37348 08:18 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    That should be our biggest concern, good work ty
  • I dont mind hosting a new official chat for us if everyone is okay with it
  • @jdogresorg #37350 08:21 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    I would prefer we keep this chat, we already have the community split between 2 "Counterparty" chats... no need to confuse things even further... plus this one is linked from the counterparty site/reddit/etc.
  • Ohhhhhh definitely get you Jay
  • @benchbtc #37353 08:22 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    i missed my time as admin
  • @jdogresorg #37354 08:23 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    don't sweat it.. you had a glorious run as admin with no complaints from anyone 😛
  • @279114941 #37358 11:57 PM, 13 Jun 2019
    Best admin ever!
  • @279114941 #37359 11:57 PM, 13 Jun 2019
  • 14 June 2019 (186 messages)
  • @Worldchaplain #37361 02:58 AM, 14 Jun 2019
    Where do or should go now to buy xcp if its delisted almost everywhere now?
  • @heunland #37362 02:59 AM, 14 Jun 2019
    still listed on Tuxexchange afaik, also you can trade on the DEX itself
  • @279114941 #37363 03:00 AM, 14 Jun 2019
    I been using tux
  • @benchbtc #37364 03:00 AM, 14 Jun 2019
    there is 15k in sell orders on tux
  • @benchbtc #37365 03:00 AM, 14 Jun 2019
    pamp it 😉
  • @483911280 #37366 03:07 AM, 14 Jun 2019
    Can the xcp foundation buy all $15k?