• 28 June 2019 (206 messages)
  • @jdogresorg #38589 05:02 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    This would allow companies to issue securities on CP, and ensure that the token is only ever held by a select group of customers who have been through the AML/KYC process..... just a suggestion 🙂
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38589 #38590 05:02 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38591 05:04 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    This would help Counterparty's case. I suppose the foundation could maintain the address lists.
  • With the big booooommmm lol
  • The foundation would not maintain the lists... it would be on the issuer to maintain the lists, as they are the ones who would be doing AML/KYC on the customer and then updating their list..... as with everything in Counterparty, all of the data would need to be encoded on the BTC blockchain.... so, we would simply need a way to create/add/remove a list of addresses and then the asset itself would simply reference the list of addresses
  • @jdogresorg #38594 05:08 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    If I was the company... I would A.) kyc/aml all my customers and come up with a list of addresses for each customer... B.) create a list on CP with all the addresses to add to the list... then C.) issue an asset and restrict the holders to the list created in step B.
  • This where SRO would come in as the smart regs on trade pair or indexed market the company is joining... Like a gold index... Silver etc.... Tokenized certification and KYC/AML is dope
  • @jdogresorg #38596 05:10 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    without some way to restrict the list of holders of an asset to a specific list of addresses, we prolly won't have much success with issuing securities, as the SEC has strict rules on aml/kyc and making sure that there are limitations on who can hold said security/token.
  • @XCERXCP #38597 05:12 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    We will get there by 2021, mark my words. Great info Jdog.
  • @jdogresorg #38598 05:12 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    What is the basic differences between Colored Coins and CP?

    I’ve read CoinPrism (OA) breakdown of the comparison here: http://blog.coinprism.com/comparison-coinprism-counterparty-mastercoin/ Some things are old (CP now uses OP_RETURN as well) What is the CounterParty view on the feature list and comparison? I’m looking to implement a token based issuance platform on top of either CC or CP. I’d like to know the pros and cons of each. Token exchangeability is important to me, but so are the abilities to implement whitelists or fees on token transfer. ...

  • @jdogresorg #38599 05:12 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    somewhat related post 🙂
  • @XCERXCP #38600 05:13 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    We are going to need a recorder for this room. Too much good info gets lost.
  • @XCERXCP #38601 05:13 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    I’ll provide one.
  • @jdogresorg #38602 05:13 PM, 28 Jun 2019
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38578 #38603 05:18 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Nice try Dan
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38604 05:18 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    He would have burnt through them already
  • @krostue #38605 05:18 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    JK jk
  • @Worldchaplain #38606 05:19 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    This is why I also suggest the CES another p2p system some of us here already use in the community... It allows us bring to in the KYC structure and verification of the holders of the assets. Its help ensure the issuers know who they holders are and helps them limit no verified asset holders. The CES community trading accounts attach the CP and this along with Coindaddy being the center peice for that somehow because it allows for asset and wallet verification ... We work in the meantime because the CES allow for KYC/AML
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38585 #38607 05:19 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    I would be happy to accept your apology
  • @Worldchaplain #38609 05:21 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    I am not allowed to post links yet but I will share the link if needed for the system I am structuring to compliment this need in the community
  • Okay, thanks for explaining that and sharing all of your thoughts on the matter. It's all very important to consider now that things are coming to a head in the courts.
  • @XCERXCP #38611 05:26 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    😴
  • @krostue #38612 05:28 PM, 28 Jun 2019
  • @XCERXCP #38613 05:28 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    💪🏻
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38565 #38614 05:30 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    would you mind explaining what this message means instead resorting to name-calling?
  • @krostue #38615 05:31 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Just because I tend to play devil's advocate where I see fit, it doesn't mean that you should demonize me for your own personal agenda
  • @500771309 #38616 05:43 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yeah, the intended meaning was unclear. Imo, having one's unclear message humorously pointed out as being unclear is a far cry from being bullied. But then, Xcer is the only one calling it "bullying", not Larry. So it's hard to know if Larry even felt bullied to start.
  • @krostue #38617 05:47 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    went to full-blown diagnosis of being dick pretty quickly
  • @krostue #38618 05:47 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    im not a yes-man
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38619 05:47 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yeah, I got a sense of seeking clarity rather than to bully, which is why I referred back to the root of the conversation to try and help make sense of that post.
  • honestly, and I say this as former troll, I didn't see it as dick at all, which is why I said something. The humor was good.
  • @500771309 #38621 05:49 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    and I'm pretty sure we've all been the rambler in a telegram chat before.
  • @krostue #38622 05:51 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    im also interested in the idea for utility, but not excited about the idea of making it protocol requirement. While this is a protocol anyone should be able to use it. No user should be required to capitulate with foreign laws. however, the foundation is deleware based (as mentioned) therefore the ultimate jurisdiction should be there, YET this is currently abandonware to an extent... yet still running by consensus.
    being open-source in nature but also being crypto project there are certain nuances to be considered. often times this means being two different things at once
  • @krostue #38623 05:53 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    i make a point to edit my messages if i need to. Some users it seems do not know it is a feature. thanks for confirming my statement was mostly informative in tone. My apologies if i insulted your intelligence by insinuating it needed to be modified, Larry
  • @krostue #38624 05:58 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    to be honest, i have given things like this considerable thought... additional features that need to be implemented.
    However, i am must less apt to share them in a public room as this. It would be irresponsible for me to do that prying eyes of the competition. This could even be users in our own community whose main purpose is to for fork self-interest.
    I am at the position where i will contribute to or as a foundation member or do like most and come up with a private solution that is for profit. However, my intention is always to push any improvement upstream. Therefore if/when something is implemented privately it will be made public eventually.
  • @krostue #38625 05:58 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Of all the notions I've seen to strengthen the platform, few hinge on cohesion. imho.tbh
  • Name calling huh I didnt say anything about anyone lol wayment lol
  • @krostue #38627 06:01 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    i was talking to your partner Xcer
  • I am not all to edit
  • @krostue #38629 06:02 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    but i thought we were over this "issue"
  • @Worldchaplain #38630 06:02 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    I dont have the features cant even share links on here
  • @Worldchaplain #38631 06:02 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Able*
  • @krostue #38632 06:03 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    windows, android... and the web. all seem to offer editing messages. i think the cut off window may be 24 or 48 hours
  • @krostue #38633 06:03 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    the point of all that was to seek clarification in your original message
  • @krostue #38634 06:04 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    it was posted at 1am, so i figured you may have typos or something to help clear up the content. i had to read it several times and did not understand what was being presented
  • @Worldchaplain #38635 06:04 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    I was speaking about what Rare was talking about
  • @Worldchaplain #38636 06:05 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Not all projects will have to be in legal complience with one another
  • @Worldchaplain #38637 06:06 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    But that dont mean they dont benefit one another in the community some thing will best fit with legal compliance between project and some wont... Just a simple benefit to each other is what matters sometimes is all I was just adding
  • i did aplogize lol
  • @jdogresorg #38640 06:11 PM, 28 Jun 2019
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #38588 #38642 06:23 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    He's da Coin Daddy 😉
  • @Worldchaplain #38643 06:28 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Big community huug👑
  • @benchbtc #38644 06:29 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    To continue with the feel good vibes I'd like to point out, I see it as a pretty good sign that people are passionate enough about this projects to butt heads sometimes
  • +1
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38642 #38647 07:37 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Haha 😍
  • @XCERXCP #38650 08:02 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    A seesaw doesn’t counter balance. We keep climbing slowly, but surely, and once it tips, we’re going to have a lot of fun and I can’t fing wait 😀
  • @XCERXCP #38651 09:05 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    A really good thing having CP as a public ledger for equities and a centralized system for trading is it’s unhackable. Thefts can just be reset in a centralized system. The ledger just serves as a source of public trust 🔥
  • @XCERXCP #38652 09:07 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    It’s the best of both worlds.
  • Boooooooommmmm
  • 30 June 2019 (46 messages)
  • I’m not seeing a huge demand for security tokens lately, but the conversations I’ve had always circle around what exchange they could trade on once the one year is up. The exchange would need to be a regulated national securities exchange or at least have the ATS license. I think Tzero only holds ERC-20 security tokens. Liquid is apparently set up, or working to get set up to operate in this market too, but I think they require the company to launch a liquid-specific coin? (I did a whole podcast on this and still don’t fully understand it). I think the Counterparty Dex is the only non-custodial exchange out there that passes the FinCEN muster of not being required to register as an MSB.
  • On point here
  • @SaSHA_256 #38673 04:40 AM, 30 Jun 2019
    I haven't been following this chat too closely, but it looks like you are trying to set up some kind of foundation? I'd be happy to go on it if you need any more people?
  • @XCERXCP #38674 04:58 AM, 30 Jun 2019
    Who are you Sasha? Always looking for honest caring passionate people.
  • You can have my leadership position of CEO. I need to quit. Starting up my Bitcorn leadership position any day now. I can’t lead kaleidoscope, bitcorn and Counterparty all at the same time.
  • @483911280 #38676 05:04 AM, 30 Jun 2019
    who’s in charge of mafia was these days?
  • I'm a fan of the Bitcorn game, which introduced me to counterparty.
  • Is it just you or a group?
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38675 #38683 12:09 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    "Wheeler, who is also police commissioner, said nothing on Saturday, as hundreds of Antifa protestors gathered on the streets, with some throwing milkshakes — potentially mixed with quick-drying cement — and assaulting Ngo."
  • If you would like to run, please announce your candidacy today (last day)... details are in the pinned message here.... we could use a good legal adviser on the foundation😀👍🏻
  • @heunland #38686 03:22 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    yes @SaSHA_256 please run! Love your legal take on bitcoin and the crypto space, we could really use your expertise here!
  • @RonaldRubber #38687 03:31 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    whats the latest dev update? are we going to see CIP21 soon?
  • Some parties here will have to.... I have to register our project as a MSB with FINCEN
  • @Worldchaplain #38689 03:46 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Had to sorry
  • @Worldchaplain #38690 03:48 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Yeah It would be nice to have this kind of legal help ... I wont be the only legal nerd here lol
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38684 #38691 03:58 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    I DM also J prior to your message
  • @TitaniumP #38693 05:09 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    [ANN] Start of the Counterparty Foundation 2019 Election - Nomination Period (Jun 10th - July 1st)

    Announcing the Start of the Counterparty Foundation 2019 Election - Nomination Period (June 10th - July 1st) The Counterparty Foundation is a group dedicated to advancing the Counterparty protocol and its products, educating the community on the Counterparty technology, driving global Counterparty awareness, and ensuring Counterparty remains a successful and growing platform. The Foundation is governed by five Community Directors. Today, we’re happy to announce the start of the Counterparty ...

  • @TitaniumP #38694 05:09 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Confirmed my nomination
  • @XCERXCP #38695 05:12 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    You guys and gals best be ready to compete against me. 😎
  • @483911280 #38696 05:17 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    🚨🚨🚨🚨 Official, FOUNDATION SANCTIONED, Bitcorn 50/50 Raffle - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13mR6KcdToIHJyadQW_szRQqi-PRAumSgU3OZVi9F89k/edit?usp=sharing
    🚨🚨🚨🚨
    July 1st 50/50 Raffle

    Sheet1 July Second 50/50 Raffle Each ticket costs 500 Bitcorn. Around 9pm on July 2nd, 2019 we will pick a winner. The winner receives 50% of the total money raised in the raffle. The other 50% will be used by the Bitcorn Foundation for a bounty program. To enter the raffle, send Bitcorn to 19Q...

  • @483911280 #38697 05:17 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Bitcorn Foundation doing stuff
  • @heunland #38698 05:41 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    ok how can something be Foundation sanctioned if the foundation has no elected members yet?
  • @heunland #38699 05:41 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    or what foundation are you talking about
  • @Worldchaplain #38700 05:42 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Bitcorn
  • @heunland #38701 05:42 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    ok Bitcorn Foundation the first announcement doesnt mention that
  • @RonaldRubber #38703 05:44 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    He says right there Helen, like two messages above....
  • @heunland #38704 05:45 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    I was referring to the first post announcing it, duh
  • @RonaldRubber #38705 05:45 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Duh
  • @heunland #38706 05:46 PM, 30 Jun 2019
  • @483911280 #38707 06:02 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    The only foundation in Counterparty that makes stuff happen, @heunland
  • @483911280 #38708 06:02 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Duh
  • @heunland #38709 06:03 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    “For the love of Bitcoin” by Rebekah Moss https://link.medium.com/A3ZdwzkOWX
    For the love of Bitcoin

    When the kids make bad friends on the blockchain…

  • @483911280 #38710 06:04 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    I have withdrawn my CEO-ship of Counterparty to focus on Bitcorn. That is where I am seeing true innovation
  • @483911280 #38711 06:04 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Duh
  • @heunland ↶ Reply to #38707 #38713 06:06 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    I don't think it is helpful to talk depreciative about other projects on Counterparty who have made significant contributions too.
  • @483911280 #38714 06:07 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Agree
  • @483911280 #38715 06:07 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Ok then Dan can go and annoy the EOS people now
  • @heunland #38716 06:09 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    And? Dan <> entire project and I am happy he is happy with his EOS friends
  • What's your name for the nomination?
  • @XCERXCP #38718 07:13 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Can’t make it that easy RYAN 😉
  • @XCERXCP #38719 07:13 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    😂😂😂😂
  • @krostue #38721 10:06 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Socky Stockton
  • @TitaniumP #38722 11:15 PM, 30 Jun 2019
    Ok