• 17 June 2019 (181 messages)
  • Then the transaction will probably never get into a block period.... you need to set a fee high enough to get the transaction passed around the network between nodes... if you set a way low fee, your tx won't be relayed
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37919 #37925 09:14 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Our biggest strength is our security. We can scale off chain
  • That what I was thinking we more CIPs and usercases connected to protocool right?
  • @Worldchaplain #37927 09:14 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Need*
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37924 #37928 09:15 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    For how long? Until it’s returned?
  • @jdogresorg #37929 09:15 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    What we need is marketing/outreach/exchange support.... we have a protocol... what we have built works great for many usecases... spinning our wheels on CIPs without any marketing/outreach is useless.... what we need is more eyes on CP and more use-cases of people using CP
  • Thats why I am working complimentary system that will fit perfectly with CP
  • I believe transactions expire after 15 days or so
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37929 #37932 09:15 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Agree, but with dispensers, it opens a whole new world. Before it was hard
  • Got it 💪💪💪
  • The dispensers change the game being able to get xcp right in the dex will be a game changer
  • @Worldchaplain #37935 09:18 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    And make btc transactions in the dex as well
  • I hope you see the issue with having NVO listed here then.
  • @jdogresorg #37937 09:18 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    We already could buy items off the DEX for BTC.... it just was a bit of a pain since it required 2 transactions... dispensers just allow things to happen in a single tx now.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37896 #37938 09:18 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    The greatest thing about XCP is someone’s individual success is everyone’s success. I’ll have lots of use case ideas. Not worried about ideas being stolen. Please steal.
  • That 2 tansaction thing was tough
  • @jdogresorg #37940 09:19 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    not if you use freewallet.io and the auto-BTCpay feature I built.... makes it a "fire and forget it" type of order just like all other orders on the DEX
  • No steal you lead we all share brother
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37937 #37942 09:20 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Yea, and not having to place orders. Casual user never bother using dex.
  • It has to go
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37940 #37944 09:21 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    No it’s great for liquidity for big players. Worlds strongest exchange you have there.
  • I throw ideas out there all day if I cant do it someone in the community should be able to
  • NVO has been removed from projects page
  • Yes I think freewallet is best functioning user we have 💪💪💪
  • @digitalfu #37948 09:22 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I mentioned stealing the designs because they are awesome and there would be a certian poetic justice to comendear them back.
  • @XCERXCP #37949 09:22 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Dispenser can sell movie tickets, everything , it’s awesome
  • I think should use them for a better payment processor. For like our bitpay for CP
  • @XCERXCP #37951 09:24 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    If it scam, screw them and design
  • Thanks 🙂
  • @XCERXCP #37953 09:26 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    XCP is the farthest thing from a scam, we are the good guys. Trust is the most important thing
  • @XCERXCP #37954 09:26 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    That’s how I feel.
  • This is where we start the trust merchant system
  • @Worldchaplain #37957 09:27 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Or true
  • Yes cp and bitcoin go together like bacon and eggs lol
  • @XCERXCP #37959 09:35 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Xchain and dispensers, we have the infrastructure we need to scale offchain. Api docs amazing work
  • @XCERXCP #37960 09:37 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Lighting + dispensers + xchain api equals amazing things
  • @XCERXCP #37961 09:53 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Can you burn a dispenser with coins in it?
  • @XCERXCP #37963 09:56 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    And what determines the dispensers tx fee of the coin send? Is that set by dispenser owner?
  • @XCERXCP #37964 09:57 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I need to read cip against instead of asking stupid questions
  • Xcer I was never implying that, I have found some sort of answer here https://www.reddit.com/r/Veserus/comments/aj627z/veserus_news_12319_previous_nvo_holders_please/
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37965 #37966 09:57 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Sorry I don’t click links here
  • @XCERXCP #37967 09:57 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I didn’t think you were
  • @XCERXCP #37968 09:59 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    A burned dispenser could act as a good bond I think
  • @digitalfu #37969 10:04 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    it seems Veserus is something new (the NVO holders please read) is as far as I cared to read.
  • @XCERXCP #37970 10:09 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    We talk xcp here, is x using the CP protocol?
  • @digitalfu #37971 10:12 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I was asking for some clarity on the relationship.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #37969 #37972 10:12 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Oh I see what you’re doing, filthy.
  • @XCERXCP #37973 10:12 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Ban James I vote
  • @digitalfu #37974 10:12 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    wtf?
  • @XCERXCP #37975 10:12 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Bro don’t come here, start asking bullshit about scams targeting nvo users who already got scammed? No?
  • @digitalfu #37976 10:13 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Thats the second time you have tried to frame my comments as an attack.
  • @XCERXCP #37977 10:13 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Then sends links
  • @XCERXCP #37978 10:13 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Gtfo out, searched reddit for something, scam comes up in search
  • @XCERXCP #37979 10:13 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    And I didn’t include nvo
  • @XCERXCP #37980 10:13 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    In search
  • @XCERXCP #37981 10:14 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Despicable people
  • @digitalfu #37982 10:16 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I forgot how annoying the troll box can be.
  • @XCERXCP #37983 10:17 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    K loser ty
  • @jdogresorg #37984 10:31 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Xcer, I would suggest you assume everyone here is acting in good faith.... we don't need to be chasing off people who are wanting to help simply because you think they are bad actors.... I read the exact same messages from James that you read and I didn't come to the same conclusion.... I read James as simply trying to help out.
  • @jdogresorg #37985 10:32 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    IMO We don't need to be pushing people away who are willing/wanting to help in any way.
  • @XCERXCP #37986 10:33 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Did you click link and read?
  • @XCERXCP #37987 10:33 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    What does it say?
  • @jdogresorg #37988 10:33 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    He was talking about the NVO project.... he provided a link to what the NVO guys are doing now... it was a related post
  • @jdogresorg #37989 10:33 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Please try to keep it positive in here.
  • @XCERXCP #37990 10:34 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    NVO was a scam someone said?
  • @XCERXCP #37991 10:34 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    It wasn’t a scam?
  • @jdogresorg #37992 10:34 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I can't speak to if it was a scam or not.... looks like they did refunds tho.. so prolly not a scam... that is besides the point... Point is, James is here to help, he was asking some questions, and you attacked him
  • @jdogresorg #37993 10:35 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Please refrain from attacking other members and calling them losers and review the content policy
  • @XCERXCP #37995 10:36 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    If people are associated with a scam, I consider it a scam. And when sending links about a scam, even worse
  • @jdogresorg #37996 10:36 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    He is not associated with a scam... he was asking about projects on the counterparty projects page and asked about NVO
  • @jdogresorg #37997 10:36 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I am not going to waste any more of my time going back and forth with you over this
  • @jdogresorg #37998 10:37 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    You have been warned. Please refrain from attacking others can calling them losers
  • @jdogresorg #37999 10:37 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    good day
  • @XCERXCP #38000 10:38 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Google top search result is exit scam - if NVO guys are the same guys who scammed, I don’t care at all about their project and glad the don’t use xcp protocol
  • @XCERXCP #38001 10:38 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    But yes, you are correct
  • @XCERXCP #38002 10:39 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    However it’s phishy and we don’t need people getting ripped off. We should have a no link policy then.
  • @XCERXCP #38003 10:40 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Do you know James? I want to protect people. If James was acting in good faith, I apologize.
  • @jdogresorg #38004 10:42 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I do not know James, however he arrived and immediately started wanting to help with CP... specifically "As mentioned I would be happy to work on the media as an excuse to relearn how it all works.".... So, best to not assume bad faith until your 100% certain.. and I see nothing from James that leads me to believe he is associated with NVO other than simply asking questions.
  • @XCERXCP #38005 10:44 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Ill pay people to help us over using James. What’s a better way to talk links, offer to help, promote NVO to people who possibly got scammed, and scam them again
  • @jdogresorg #38006 10:44 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    and as a matter of fact he was asking for the NVO project to be REMOVED from the CP website... the exact opposite of promoting a scam...
  • @jdogresorg #38007 10:44 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    DUDE
  • @jdogresorg #38008 10:44 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    CHILL OUT!
  • @jdogresorg #38009 10:45 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Getting pretty frustrated with you.... having to answer a bunch of questions which could be answered by reading the CIP, and then attacking other members who are wnating to help because you got into your head that they are associated with a scam
  • @krostue #38010 10:45 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Xcer, get real!
  • @XCERXCP #38011 10:45 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Yea because he’s trying to make himself look honest
  • @krostue #38012 10:45 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Psychological projection is a bitch of a tell
  • @jdogresorg #38013 10:46 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I don't have time to waste on this stupid bickering...l8r.
  • @XCERXCP #38014 10:46 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Ok well apologize. Just my thoughts. People getting robbed over stuff like this.
  • @XCERXCP #38015 10:47 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    But I apologize. You’re 100% right though.
  • @heunland #38016 10:47 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Let's all calm down and be nice to each other. We really can use all the help we can get for this project.
  • @XCERXCP #38018 10:48 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I love that dude
  • @heunland #38019 10:48 PM, 17 Jun 2019
  • @krostue #38020 10:48 PM, 17 Jun 2019
  • @heunland #38021 10:49 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    that's the spirit!
  • @XCERXCP #38022 10:50 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    But I’m honest, I have people who can work for free. They assist me. Remote workers full time.
  • @XCERXCP #38024 10:51 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    I can give them some redundant xcp tasks if anyone has a good idea
  • @jdogresorg #38025 10:52 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Once a foundation gets elected and starts coordinating on marketing/outreach, then would be the correct time to ask for an official task list, etc..... as of now, everyone is just doing their own thing.
  • @XCERXCP #38026 10:53 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Ok sounds good.
  • @Worldchaplain #38027 10:58 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    😍😍😍 community hug lol
  • I agree. When was the last time a CIP was completed? I feel like new ones keep popping up but I can’t remember in my coulle years using counterparty when the last one was closed out.
  • @jdogresorg #38029 11:02 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Last one was completed last release with support for segwit... also the MPMA CIP is essentially done... before that there was the enhanced memo sends CIP... and the memo requirement through broadcasts CIP.. and subassets.
  • @Worldchaplain #38031 11:03 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    What the are majot CIP that need to be complete are there any?
  • @jdogresorg #38032 11:04 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    John is working on MPMA, P2sh data encoding, dispensers, sweep, and fixing segwit support... all those CIPs are being tested and should be in the next release.
  • @jdogresorg #38033 11:04 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    After that I think MCAT would be the best to focus on, but that is just me
  • @jdogresorg #38034 11:05 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    CIP Proposal (13) MCAT - Multiparty Counterparty Aggregate Transaction

    The MCAT message allow multiple transactions from multiple addresses to be grouped together in one transaction in order to save transaction space. Please see the whole work-in-progress CIP at: This CIP proposal builds on @chiguireitor’s work on MPMA sends. It extends the concept to public 3rd party aggregation servers.

  • @jdogresorg #38035 11:05 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    TL;DR.... batch sends where people can pay the tx fee with something other than BTC.... and where node operators can start earning some fees.
  • @jdogresorg #38036 11:06 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    after MCAT... I think the CPVM would be a game-changer for CP to get... but that is a lot of work and would require some decent funding to get it working... https://counterpartytalk.org/t/proof-of-concept-vm-development/3031
    Proof-of-concept VM Development

    So i’ve recently started to develop a minimal pure python Virtual Machine tailored specifically for counterparty. I’m starting this thread to keep note of development and design decisions, and also to get input from the community regarding what should the VM do. FAQ Why not use EVM? EVM was designed with ethereum blocktimes and specifics in mind. CP has already a lot of groundwork regarding tokens, bets and a lot of useful functions that don’t need to be recoded in a smart contract. Isn’t...

  • @RonaldRubber #38037 11:06 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    How can we get more people than just John working on these. At one point there was talk of IndieSquare working on dev. It seems like there is a talk of a foundation but what could the foundation possibly do to improve CP more than development could? Seems like focusing on a foundation is energy wasted
  • For some reason I’ve never seen this. Thanks j dog
  • @jdogresorg #38039 11:09 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Marketing/Promotion would get more eyes on CP.... get more devs using CP... and get more devs wanting to work on the CP platform... We have had a year with no foundation at all and no one has been focusing on marketing/promotion.... rebooting the CP foundation is a renewed attempt to get a group of people all agreeing on what is best for CP and working on moving CP forward..... Also, a foundation is the only group that can vote on how to spend funds...... As far as indiesquare, they have been working with CP on misc stuff, but not necessarily improvements to the CP protocol... instead they have provided a side-chain solution which solves many of the "fees" problem.... https://www.hazama.indiesquare.me/
  • @krostue #38041 11:31 PM, 17 Jun 2019
    Having gone to college to pursue a marketing degree I feel I might have a more than average understanding of how it works. Also being a very heavy user of xcp I can see the need for multiple ends of the circle to jump-start simultaneously.
    We don't want to onboard new users with the current adoption blockage. It is unrealistic to think that developers (or any other level of user) are going to be compelled to get involved with such a confusing platform.
    renewing the entity of the foundation enables for a concerted effort of the orchestration among peers that can gain more traction than everyone floundering independently. Although it seems some users don't want to read, it is apparent that documentation is important to say the least. Even in the details of the foundation bylaws there are mentions of organizational affordances beyond simply having a board.
  • 18 June 2019 (43 messages)
  • @XCERXCP #38042 12:29 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    Whoever finds a scam coin, let me know. I just created a token called scamwallet - I will follow them around.
  • @XCERXCP #38043 12:30 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    Countervent is honorary first receiver
  • @XCERXCP #38044 12:31 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    So excited to send it, issued with high tx fee 😂
  • Sounds like a fulltime job 😂
  • @XCERXCP #38046 12:50 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    I’ll enjoy it
  • @Worldchaplain #38048 02:02 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    You dont need a coin for that use the repuation system jdog set up if they are scammers leave 1 star report on the repuation
  • @XCERXCP #38049 02:40 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    I like Jdogs thing, but I want to make them spend money
  • @XCERXCP #38051 02:41 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    X scam wallet . com
  • This wallet has been registering a bunch of scam looking assets based on fb's Libra - 1EuFfnego8Pgb3P1VuUdh283tewQws8Qd1
  • Why would anyone willingly want one of these to touch their wallet?
  • @krostue #38059 03:17 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    😂 looks like name squatting. VOTERYAN is campaigning, but where is the scam proof?
  • This sounds plausible
  • It's Xcer's wallet, I was half joking.
  • The date of registration is one key to help
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38061 #38063 03:21 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    THANKSDAD
  • That is like hell recieiving one but its a good idea to keep the scammers from using scam wallet or a wallet to scam people with
  • @XCERXCP #38069 03:24 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    It’s sharing economy hon like you said
  • @Worldchaplain #38070 03:24 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    Or we can reverse it each person who has a coin is like participating in scam protection by holding it in their wallet... Kinda like KYC verify to for non scammers
  • @XCERXCP #38071 03:24 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    Yep
  • @mightbemike #38079 06:23 AM, 18 Jun 2019
    Who decides what is and is not a scam?
  • @XCERXCP #38087 02:24 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    How do you report a scam bitcoin wallet currently? Not a CP wallet, just any Bitcoin wallet?

    CP allows you to encode any Bitcoin wallet with information.
  • @XCERXCP #38088 02:40 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Last point.

    Big problem with exchanges and alts is they are money washers.

    It allows people who are fraudulent actors to get away from their fraudulent or illegal btc txs easily. But since CP is bitcoin, they can’t here.
  • @krostue #38097 09:12 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Xcer, i found a PRIME list of airdrop candidates to send onboarding tokens to// i like the discussion on the topic. Although the concept of "airdrop" is looked down upon as scammy anymore, there can be justified reasons. The original usage was to try to make stateless crypto for citizens of iceland. Im sure we could incorporate these prospective players or pool of btc friendly folk once there is more of a landing pad to accommodate their arrival.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38097 #38098 09:58 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Cool. I was thinking more airdrop for coupons and stuff.
  • @krostue #38104 11:30 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    i personally only like to call it xcp or CounterParty depending on what it is or who is doing it. CP means an entirely different thing outside this project and i refrain from using the two letters alone in any situation
  • @krostue #38108 11:33 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    this is one thing i did not question, nor do i want to. i saw that there was an attempt to differentiate cp and xcp earlier, but i think this is just too abstract to be helpful.
  • @XCERXCP #38109 11:33 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Well not with marketing
  • @XCERXCP #38110 11:34 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    That’s double brands
  • @krostue #38111 11:34 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    jdog sometimes uses the short version, but i think he just does that to be faster
  • @XCERXCP #38112 11:34 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    I mean I guess you could argue one way or the other that it’s the currency
  • @XCERXCP #38113 11:34 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Short version, CP?
  • @krostue #38114 11:34 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    not really. no one in their right mind wants cp on their computer
  • @jdogresorg #38116 11:35 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    CP is the platform, XCP is the currency
  • @jdogresorg #38117 11:36 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    I use both terms loosely
  • @krostue #38118 11:36 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    any words written in all caps denotes assets ive noticed
  • @krostue #38119 11:37 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    so XCP, imho is the acutall token and xcp is the fill in for CounterParty proper... which is also a word in its own right
  • @jdogresorg #38120 11:37 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    CP could not be a token, so they used XCP instead.... X as a filler letter.... same as people do when they want to register APPLE... they register XAPPLE.
  • @XCERXCP #38121 11:37 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Ah yes ok
  • @krostue #38122 11:38 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    idunno. i choose my words carefully most times
  • @krostue #38123 11:38 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    not to infer anyone else is not <3
  • @XCERXCP #38125 11:39 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    And it’s confusing, but I’m happy with whatever
  • @279114941 #38126 11:43 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Counterparty (ticker: XCP)
  • @279114941 #38127 11:43 PM, 18 Jun 2019
    Is cumbersome but would keep everyone on same page
  • 20 June 2019 (13 messages)
  • @Worldchaplain #38151 04:01 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    Okay so We soooooo need freewallet shirts and promote martials who would help with this..... great day everyone
  • @benchbtc #38152 04:08 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    Me
  • @benchbtc #38153 04:09 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    i work for a marketing company, I assisted for example with Rare AF promotional materials
  • @jdogresorg #38154 04:10 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    IMO Freewallet should be rebranded to something else before much promotion takes place... there is another "Freewallet.org" wallet which has been accused of being a scam (custodial wallet).... not sure we want to continue using the same name
  • @benchbtc #38155 04:10 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    I will do it at cost (cas i luv you guys and xcp) and can accept BTC and facilitate the fiat conversion to pay the supplier
  • @benchbtc #38156 04:11 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    it's one of the things i hope to bring to the Community Director positional should i be elected

    (PS i am nominated guise)
  • I agree, and I have been wanting to suggest it. I’m also not much of a fan of the wallet logo with dollars sticking out. I recall someone proposing to make it counterparty’s official wallet. That seems like a good idea that the foundation could vote on to make official.
  • How and when do we vote?
  • @jdogresorg #38160 05:08 PM, 20 Jun 2019
    See the pinned message... voting starts on the first when instructions on how to vote will be posted.... basically u just do a broadcast with the candidate number and the number of votes to cast for the candidate
  • Thanks j dog
  • I would be open to it being the official wallet, but it has some dev costs and ongoing costs associated with it (it uses xchain apis extensively), so would need to come to a financial arrangement.... but definitely open to the rebrand and official wallet idea
  • Lol Okay thanks for the heads up I was dealing having to clear this up the other day they say the other one .org is a scam lol
  • 21 June 2019 (44 messages)
  • I think FreeWallet should be official counterparty wallet with dex capabilities at no additional cost. Counterwallet is clumsy. Anyone who has bought xchainpepe or full access has contributed to freewallet. Seems like just making it for the community could really benefit counterparty and in turn raise user base increasing XCP price (assuming you have a stash of XCP). RPW was something free that without would have not made rarepepe what it was. Just seems like counterparty is really struggling and this could be one Hail Mary. If counterparty bounces back with its user base and everything then figuring out financially how to support freewallet, xchain, etc makes sense. Just my 2 cents. Freewallet is awesome and if everyone had that from the start with the ability to buy XCP with btc on the dex it would make it much easier to on board
  • @heunland #38167 12:43 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    I think that j-dog needs to get paid for his dev time so are you proposing he open the DEX integration up to all at no charge, even for those who did not contribute by buying an XCHAINPEPE or other full access token? Or are you proposing the foundation to hold a fundraiser to cover these dev costs. The reason that it is not open to all yet is exactly because all the hours he spent on developing that feature have not been fully compensated yet. So people that want to use it now should just go buy the necessary token IMHO.
  • @bigwormcrypto #38168 12:51 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    I would agree that jdog should get compensated but seems like that might be a roadblock to actually rolling it out as the official wallet and all features unlocked, when counterparty needs some serious love in order to spark interest in either new or old users. I’d suggest roll it out now and then if XCP bounces back then foundation can vote on how to fund jdog. But that would come with the possibility that jdog might never get paid
  • you're not getting it.... freewallet is jdog's wallet, it's his propietary code
  • @104473096 #38170 12:53 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    the foundation cannot decide what to do with freewallet
  • @RonaldRubber #38171 12:53 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    Who’s code is the counterwallet? Can we shame them for making a garbage wallet?
  • But wasn’t the discussion to make it the official counterparty wallet?
  • @104473096 #38173 12:53 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    yes, by the foundation agreeing on funding jdog
  • @bigwormcrypto #38174 12:57 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    Ok well just throwing it out there. From somewhat of an outsiders perspective counterparty will slowly die or bounce back and having a good wallet like freewallet would help prevent it dying so why not just give it to the community. Not sure how much has been made already from the tokens for freewallet but there is already some level of funding.
  • @RonaldRubber #38175 01:05 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    @jdogresorg how much in USD would it take for counter wallet to be the free, official wallet of counterparty. How much does counterparty have in it’s fund?
  • @heunland #38176 01:35 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    @Worm sounds like you like to work for free yourself then? You could just donate the missing funding to J-dog and he will unlock the feature right away. Everyone will be singing your praises too.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38170 #38177 01:36 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    Exactly
  • @heunland ↶ Reply to #37326 #38178 01:43 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    you might want to keep this in mind too when you ask J-dog to even further subsidize Counterparty Foundation operations than he is already
  • @XCERXCP #38179 01:52 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    And the foundation wallet cannot be owned by an individual. However it can suggest individual owned approved wallets to use
  • @XCERXCP #38180 01:55 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    And jdog prob be the first to agree
  • I did donate, I have xchainpepe. Not sure why my suggestion is so crazy but whatever.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38178 #38182 02:26 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    I'm going to even futhur
  • @XCERXCP #38183 02:52 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    I’ll go further - the foundation should be worried about CIPs - not building a wallet
  • @krostue #38184 03:00 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    Walling oneself off is useless, but putting up barriers is healthy
  • @XCERXCP #38185 03:00 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    Last thing - the foundation should not compete against its proprietors using the platform - an official foundation (new/improved) wallet would be competition.
  • @XCERXCP #38186 03:36 AM, 21 Jun 2019
    The foundation is not a business. If it was - they sure as hell wouldn’t have burned 2,125.63 btc 😂
  • Make counterparty great again 👏
  • How the voters "number of votes" will be calculated? (ie how many number of votes assigned to each wallet for voting purposes). Will those derived based on the xcp amount each wallet holds?
  • Yup
  • long gone dev, it was awesome back then when things like React, Angular and Vue.js weren't a thing
  • @104473096 #38195 02:51 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    nowadays there's a lot better frameworks than knockout.js
  • I have been working on freewallet mobile (already open sourced) since 2016, and have been working on FreeWallet desktop since 2017. I estimate I have put about 4-5 months of dev work into these projects. Both of these wallets rely heavily on xchain.io which is an ongoing cost of about $300/mo.

    So, just a rough calculation of my costs on xchain at $300/mo for the last 4 years
    2016 - $3600
    2017 - $3600
    2018 - $3600
    2019 - $3600
    ----
    $14,400

    For Freewallet I was planning of open-sourcing the wallet when the bounties were reached, which I believe was originally targeted at around $10,000.

    As far as FULLACCESS tokens, They were all sold for about $20 and there are 65 holders which means I have pulled in about $1,300 from people who have purchased the tokens.

    In a perfect world, I would like to get $10K to open source freewallet desktop, and $300/mo to cover my ongoing operating costs on xchain.io which is what powers the freewallet projects (kinda like counterblock backend powers the counterwallet frontend).

    As far as what the CP foundation has left in its coffers? There is about 1.75 BTC left in the dev and general funds as well as about 450 XCP.

    I would prefer that the remaining dev funds be put to use on dev work, and the general funds be put to use on marketing/outreach rather than trying to pay me for freewallet. In the past there have been a few people who have made significant contributions/donations to Counterparty, so I imagine that with a bit of work, the CP community can find another few donors to contribute some funds to help CP move CP forward. The potential is still huge, with just a bit of work we could get listed on a few more exchanges and the price could pump.... huge potential upside for any potential investors who can fill their bags now with cheap XCP, contribute a few BTC to get XCP moving forward and then sell their bags when the price pumps.

    Just my $0.02 🙂
  • Counterwallet was originally written by Robby and ouziel-slama back in 2014 when CP launched... At the time they needed a wallet to showcase the different features of the platform and it served its purpose at the time... but yes, the interface is not exactly easy to use... especially the DEX interface.
  • @RonaldRubber #38198 03:30 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    Thanks j dog, that sheds a lot of light on what’s going on and what kinda steps the community needs to take to get xcp back up
  • @jdogresorg #38199 03:30 PM, 21 Jun 2019
  • @285533757 #38204 07:45 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    Hi, what exchanges is counterparty listed on?
  • @mojipepe #38205 08:30 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    Hi, on ChainRift in few days with PEPECASH 🌔
  • @mojipepe #38206 08:32 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    And the DEX also
  • @285533757 #38207 08:33 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    Which DEX?
  • Nice!
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #38205 #38210 09:45 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    pls keep us updated on this in the @pepecash room
  • @benchbtc #38211 09:45 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    very great news
  • @Worldchaplain #38212 11:05 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    How does CounterZone or Counterpay sound for a rebranding name? Just shooting out ideas to get thing moving on that? Does anyone else has some names they think we should use?
  • @762394925 #38213 11:06 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    We can handle the grafics
  • @762394925 #38214 11:07 PM, 21 Jun 2019
    Excuse me, company that is.
  • Agreed this is helpful, thanks for all the dedication jdog
  • 22 June 2019 (31 messages)
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38212 #38216 12:51 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    Our founders created it. Not us. It’s their creation. Their name.
  • @XCERXCP #38217 12:52 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    That’s how I feel at least.
  • @heunland #38219 01:18 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    I don't see a need to change the name
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38220 01:20 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    Counterparty is good
  • @heunland #38221 01:20 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    agreed
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38222 01:21 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    The logo is good too, but I'd be interested to see new designs from the community
  • may want to read what Jdog said about the marketing and possible legal technicality
  • @heunland #38225 04:57 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    He was talking about freewallet
  • @heunland #38226 04:58 AM, 22 Jun 2019
    And of course I have read what he said. Show me where he said we need to change the name of Counterparty.
  • Right here
  • @krostue #38228 05:45 AM, 22 Jun 2019
  • Free wallet should be rebranded to counterwallet. The official xcp wallet
  • I feel this way to I think this is whats best
  • @RonaldRubber #38235 03:59 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    if it gets rebranded with a new logo it’s not gunna get more users and increase xcp community size. The newbs still won’t buy the access token and will still complain that mobile has no dex. We gotta somehow buy this wallet and unlocked features from j dog
  • @RonaldRubber #38236 04:01 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    Even better would be to have the xcp devs create a usable wallet in my opinion. A wallet that noobs can use intuitively and use on mobile. Token enthusiasts coming ETH see counterparty wallets and laugh at us
  • @heunland #38237 04:17 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    I think dev time is better spent on CIPs right now than making yet another new wallet. There are already a lot of choices other than counterwallet, For gamers there was the indisquare wallet, book of orbs and Tookan casa or whatever its called from Everdreamsoft, there is rarepepewallet which needs some small fixes but otherwise is great, and of course, Freewallet. Mandelduck is also experimenting with lightning implementations which is great. Making another new wallet would def not be my no. 1 priority right now, especially considering that we have very limited dev resources. Just my 2 satoshis
  • @RonaldRubber #38238 04:26 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    I agree that there are a lot of choices for wallets. The paid Freewallet version is the only one that is easy to use the dex on for all tokens though.
  • @RonaldRubber #38239 04:27 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    Nobody outside of counterparty cares about CIP21, very few users inside of counterparty care about CIP21
  • @RonaldRubber #38240 04:28 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    What’s the Over/under on hours of development per week? 4 hours?
  • CIP21 will be a game changer for user onboarding
  • @483911280 #38242 04:53 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    How many new users do you expect CIP21 to bring?
  • @104473096 #38243 05:07 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    Anyone with just a non custodial Bitcoin wallet can become a user now
  • @104473096 #38244 05:07 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    In just one step
  • @104473096 #38245 05:07 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    With cip21
  • @483911280 #38246 05:27 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    Over or under 10 new users in the first 90 days?
  • @heunland #38247 05:42 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    that all depends on how much we can market it IMHO. Since Counterparty is not an organized company with a big marketing staff and budget, I think we can't expect miracles to happen right away. Adoption will come as people start becoming aware of the new features that make using Counterparty easier. We all can start spreading the news on social media, and let those that run projects already on Counterparty know so they will also start adopting the new features.
  • Yes totally agree planned marketing campaigns from the community
  • @Worldchaplain #38251 06:45 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    And things we will come if we stay dilligent and accomplish these task one by one as we build up momentum to take on more applications and project at one time ... I agree with Helene we should put a centered focus on what is actually possible to do from here and then continue to grow from there
  • 😂♥️
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38251 #38255 08:32 PM, 22 Jun 2019
    My man bacon and eggs
  • 26 June 2019 (82 messages)
  • @Nickst2 #38291 03:09 AM, 26 Jun 2019
    Just downloaded free wallet and got the full access token. Wallet looks good.
  • Welcome to the family Nick
  • @IDrawBunnyPronz #38293 03:19 AM, 26 Jun 2019
    Woo 12k
  • @benchbtc #38294 03:20 AM, 26 Jun 2019
  • @jdogresorg #38296 03:34 AM, 26 Jun 2019
    The Bitcoin bubble song

    Skeptic? This is all the new gen have to say to you. Original song: Vitas - 7th Element

  • Lol right
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #38297 #38298 03:43 AM, 26 Jun 2019
    Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball (Official Video)

    Miley Cyrus' official music video for 'Wrecking Ball'. Click to listen to Miley Cyrus on Spotify: http://smarturl.it/MCSpot?IQid=MCWB As featured on Bangerz. Click to buy the track or album via iTunes: http://smarturl.it/MCBAiTunes?IQid=MCWB Google Play: http://smarturl.it/MCWBPlay?IQid=MCWB Amazon: http://smarturl.it/MCBAm?IQid=MCWB More from Miley Cyrus We Can't Stop: https://youtu.be/LrUvu1mlWco Can't Be Tamed: https://youtu.be/sjSG6z_13-Q Who Owns My Heart: https://youtu.be/iVbQxC2c3-8 Follow Miley Cyrus Website: http://www.mileycyrus.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MileyCyrus Twitter: https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus Instagram: https://instagram.com/mileycyrus/ Subscribe to Miley Cyrus on YouTube: http://smarturl.it/MCSub?IQid=MCWB More great Ultimate Hits of the Noughties videos here: http://smarturl.it/UNPlaylist?IQid=MCWB --------- Lyrics: We clawed, we chained our hearts in vain We jumped never asking why We kissed, I fell under your spell. A love no onecould deny Don't you ever say I just walked away I will always want you I can't live a lie, running for my life I will always want you I came in like a wrecking ball I never hit so hard in love All I wanted was to break your walls All you ever did was wreck me Yeah, you, you wreck me"

  • @c0rnh0li0 #38299 03:46 AM, 26 Jun 2019
    Bitcoin Miner's Daughter

    If you'd like to leave a tip in the jar, you can donate bitcoin here: 33fsJQgk2XMJjYzRjEhj1rjCbxLaEvqymq Nylon Rattle Presents: a hot new take on the old classic, "Coal Miner's Daughter", accomplished at the Bomb Shelter Studios in Nashville, TN by The House Band Perfumed and shot by Joshua Shoemaker. All plights observed.

  • Its real 🙌😅😂😃 we should have the general fund wallet link and invest to miner speaking of
  • @873651274 #38306 06:58 AM, 26 Jun 2019
    .
  • You want to invest in mining? I
  • @raretruck #38308 01:29 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    ...thought you were smarter then that
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38309 01:35 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    There’s no real miner here. It’s just a parody of Loretta Lynn’s song Coal Miner’s Daughter written in a futuristic perspective of a bitcoin miner’s daughter, which is likely to be a struggle. I didn’t write the song, but I am playing the saw in it.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38310 01:40 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    I just hopped on the YouTube sharing train last night.
  • This video is amazing, but it cuts out the crash and Ethereum portion. Counterparty needs its own music.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38312 01:58 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    This is a classic that’s closely related https://youtu.be/hPimmS0TyPs
    DJ J Scrilla " Can't Smoke A Bitcoin"

    Q: What happens when you smoke a bitcoin? A: Well, it's trippy mane... Video features Bitcoiner Chris DeRose and gold bug Peter Schiff. The song comes from a clip on Chris' excellent Bitcoin Uncensored show, of DeRose and Schiff discussing the uses of bitcoin outside of being a store of value and digital peer to peer payment system. Video by Emoji Nakamoto. Music and art by DJ J $crilla. www.rarescrilla.com Download/Listen to the song on Ujo Music here: https://ujomusic.com/portal/store/193 Stream on choon.co as well: https://choon.co/tracks/0idon0eaie1/cant-smoke-a-bitcoin-ft-chris-derose--peter-schiff Buy the high end SUPER RARE (only 5 created) digital album art cover (designed by J-Scrilla and Emoji Nakamoto) by using SuperRare.co: https://superrare.co/artwork/scrillmoji-60 Buy the Very Rare Remix artwork (only 7 made) and card in the bitcorns.com game here: https://bitcorns.com/cards/CNTSMOKECORN Also, until the end of Summer 2018 the contest to earn a CANTSMOKEBTC blockchain trophy - the first PROOF OF SHARE token ever - is being offered up to anyone who shares the video through their social media and tags #CANTSMOKEBTC. The token is not a promise of anything. It is simply some blockchain swag, but also tradeable on the Counterparty DEX using wallet.counterwallet.io and more... Bitcoin, XCP or XCP asset tips welcome: 1bbbSqqR8ikdy7aFjzxbAg36mm1hrdhE8

  • @heunland ↶ Reply to #38311 #38313 02:36 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    there are some Pepecash songs already
  • @heunland #38314 02:37 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    I love my PepeCash

    This song was created by anonymous pepecash fans guided by Kek. Buy Pepecash on http://TuxExchange.com or on the DEX through RarePepeWallet.com

  • @heunland #38316 02:41 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    something for inspiration
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38317 02:41 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    thanks, some good work done there
  • @heunland #38318 02:41 PM, 26 Jun 2019
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38315 #38319 02:45 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    too much to ask for more original content? most parodies that are rewritten pop lacks the canter of the original and sound forced.
    this one is tight, doe
    too bad people are instantly butthurt over pepe, and it would be nice to have original content dedicated to XCP or the services it provides. The whole song does not have to be about it, but it would be nice to mention it. Simlar to the subject nature of using the phone in so many 60s/70s songs there should be use of the subject nature in the narrative, not a simple commercial.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38308 #38320 02:46 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    I do agree with the notion of setting up an endowment fund that is a bounty for someone to mention CounterParty by name in a pop song. It can even be a specific CIP and the objective is the first song to mention the project and attain top 40 status in the US will receive the payout to the recording artist or group
  • @heunland #38321 03:06 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Sorry I am not in the music business, you can ask skrilla if he would like to get involved, Mike just made those pepecash videos for fun in the heydays of Rare Pepe afaik
  • top 40 status is a bit much, maybe the foundation could tip 1 xcp and $10 of BTC for a 10k+ view count on youtube or whatever platfrom. That's actually attainable
  • Not the b.s miners lol I mean something we just need to set up to that keep the revenue rolling for everyone
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #38324 03:46 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Where to trade xcp ??? as tux is shutting down soon.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38322 #38325 04:14 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Thanks for your expertise insight. I look forward to you drafting the CIP
  • @Kansenparel #38326 04:15 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    What to do with pepecash
  • @krostue #38327 04:16 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Until then feel free to tip people $10 yourself, in order to facilitate major changes
  • me too, but it might take a minute... i'm just learning python now
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38329 04:17 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    I've been working on an idea for a while based around busking for bitcoin
  • @krostue #38330 04:17 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Nice faulty logic but there's no need for python use in a social contract
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38329 #38331 04:18 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Great another Bitcorn clone
  • how do you figure?
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38333 04:18 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    not husking
  • @krostue #38334 04:18 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    "Oh I'm sorry I misread it as husking"
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38335 04:18 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    busking
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38336 04:20 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    As we move towards a cashless society, street performers will adopt crypto, but they may need some help to get started
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38337 04:21 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Interestingly, I noticed the creator of the CP asset BUSK also created LIBRA https://xchain.io/address/134jyqxjRC1ret6v14ZosYPkNZYbhaybh3
  • How many Bitcorn clones are there? Can you give an example?
  • @krostue #38339 04:24 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    obviously RarePepe, duh
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38340 04:25 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    are you a no cropper?
  • @krostue #38341 04:26 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    how dumb do you think i am?
  • so you have CROPS
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38343 04:26 PM, 26 Jun 2019
  • @krostue #38344 04:27 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    only by default
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38345 04:28 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    it's not by default, but anyone can drop into @bitcorn and get crop dusted to get their farm started
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38338 #38346 04:31 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    yes. artMuseum.io blatantly stole the idea used in bitcorn to implement a burn address as museum holdings. This site had the audacity to also steal the idea from digirare. double theft with that shady project run by a dictator and backed by shadowy TOS copied form one site to another. good thing we have the fair and democraticly organized community of bitcorn to fall back on
  • @krostue #38347 04:31 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    best thing is that CROPS was fairly distributed and there are no socks used by the owner
  • Looks like a group full of filipinos?
  • He is OG farmer
  • @483911280 #38350 04:41 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    one of the first bans, around rigger
  • Coco what up family
  • Cool, cool, I’m new and happy to have had my first card published!
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38345 #38353 04:53 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    by default but not in default. 3sisters is going to be a collective until the end of the game, as stated in the beginning. Concurrent dispersal will occur to members. However, the early efforts to onboard artists to the game is no longer considered to be responsible. Instead, after the actions of the leader, personal and unprofessional, the intentions have proven to be questionable and likely parasitic and exploitative. Deplatforming its own users is poor judgement and misuse of power. Banning multiple people from the chat is one thing, but threatening to redact published works is immature at best.
  • @krostue #38354 04:53 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    IRONICALLY now that Ive asked Dan to take pepedust content off of Digirare on three different occasions it is still there. STILL. let us think on that. he threatens to remove users' art from the game and outright bans users from the chat for simply asking questions. Yet multiple requests for taking down content go not unnoticed but are somehow misconstrued as permission to insight conflict. AND to look at the terms of service it becomes even more concerning that the stated intention is to profit from use and default on any settlement. all this spells out Spineless coward in my book. so yeah
  • @483911280 #38355 04:54 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    *Dev not “leader”
  • @krostue #38356 04:55 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    rhetoric ^
  • @483911280 #38357 04:55 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    I’ll add you back to the chat if I get re-elected to the foundation
  • @483911280 #38358 04:55 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    ive never lost. Even though I never marketed myself
  • @krostue #38359 04:56 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    seeing how easy it was to make this forwarder, the issue could have been resolved even quicker. but now we got a TOUGHGUY here
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wcw6UuwvqQTDKF_dVsUeasPBtIC2QKUl/view
  • @krostue #38360 04:57 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    aaaaaand i said my peace. please dont delete the above, and im done entertaining the notion of Dan or bitcorns existing
  • @krostue #38361 04:59 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    as far as clones, there is this project which was conceived just over a year ago... it was too ahead of its time it seems. There is now a new momentum behind getting an actual p2p collection going for mature content and most xcp existing service providers would rather not deal with this very real issue of deplatforming
  • @krostue #38362 05:00 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    NOPES/bLitecoin is now getting art together to be part of the collection when it launches. That is, users are being encoraged to register tokens names that go with specific works to be included upon debut
  • @Worldchaplain #38363 05:02 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    This is to much division and bad faith acting I see
  • @krostue #38364 05:03 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    all that already happened. moving on with life
  • @krostue #38365 05:04 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    onboarding artists who need to fully utilize this tech in a ways that makes it a platform and not a publisher
  • @heunland ↶ Reply to #38339 #38366 05:05 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    what? more like the other way around, Rare Pepe existed before afaik
  • @krostue #38367 05:06 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    it was supposed to be obvious sarcasm to the point where the reader asks if perhaps bitcorn is a clone of rarepepe❤😂
  • @krostue #38368 05:07 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    sardonic even
  • @heunland #38369 05:07 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    sorry but germans like me are not too good with sarcasm detection
  • @krostue #38370 05:07 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    add a little CIP justification, and BOOM
  • @krostue #38371 05:08 PM, 26 Jun 2019
  • @krostue #38372 05:09 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    i often overuse mine until i have to take it to the shop to get fixed
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38376 05:20 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    Lots of interesting stuff to learn from and grow stronger and tougher
  • @krostue #38377 05:22 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    good way to look at it. i understand my narrative is unique and does not apply to most. yet the undercurrent is still a valid issue to tease out... using XCP as a platform and not a publisher. This is an essential difference that is becoming more and more apparent to the current info-power holders
  • @krostue #38378 05:23 PM, 26 Jun 2019
    while i have too much on my mind to take up coding beyond that i already use i would like to see certain improvements to the protocol for the benefit of all users. new and established
  • 👌🙏
  • Just like LaVar Ball
  • 27 June 2019 (26 messages)
  • @rarepepetrader #38383 05:24 AM, 27 Jun 2019
    I have been observing recent conversations here and across other counterparty project TG groups.

    I'm very glad to see a number of our long-time constructive, considered and knowledgeable community members nominating or being nominated for the Counterparty Foundation Community Directors election.

    I will be nominating @wampum, as an energised, passionate, consistent and committed community participant, who is dedicating every effort to supporting the development of digital art projects on counterparty, as well as other community initiatives.
  • @rarepepetrader #38384 05:25 AM, 27 Jun 2019
    I'll get a nomination written up and posted in the next 24-48 hours.
  • @rarepepetrader #38385 05:29 AM, 27 Jun 2019
    Wallet tech. question... if anyone can assist with it?

    My sixth address for one of my counterparty wallets is no longer showing up in counterwallet.io.

    Instead the sixth address was a new one I'd not seen or used before. No balances BTC, XCP or assets.

    The original/real sixth address is still visible in rarepepewallet.com, but no BTC balances showing/working in there, so not currently usable.

    How can I add the address back into counterwallet.io? It's really important that I can access and transact on that address.

    I don't know how/why it's dropped/disappeared. I never removed it.

    I've already tried generating new addresses, Standard and Segwit and that sixth address is not coming back.
  • @rarepepetrader #38387 05:47 AM, 27 Jun 2019
    Ah... happily enough, I can access the 6th address in FreeWallet. So that's good for now. Hoping to understand the issue with counterwallet.io.
  • @879660951 #38391 07:06 AM, 27 Jun 2019
    .
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38383 #38394 11:38 AM, 27 Jun 2019
    🙇‍♂ thank you.
    I appreciate your recognition and look forward to this opportunity
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #38398 02:17 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Can someone with authority apply CP listing in this exchange?..
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #38399 02:17 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    👆
  • @heunland #38401 02:37 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    I don't think there are any people with authority atm, until new foundation election
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #38402 03:10 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Hmm...ok..
  • Exchange outreach

    For direct updates on progress and how you can help: see the following post Exchange outreach If you want to read the rationale on why this thread has been created-- rant below Exchange Outreach It has come to my attention that over the course of the past several years, we, collectively as a community of this leaderless, decentralized organization have not done much in the way of exchange outreach. And that’s a bit of an understatement. I have scoured through CMC and the various other agg...

  • @Worldchaplain #38405 07:31 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Any one has .619 of btc to sell me
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38409 08:42 PM, 27 Jun 2019
  • @Worldchaplain #38410 08:57 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Cash
  • Cash I can send POF to your wallet
  • @Worldchaplain #38414 09:00 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Proof of funds
  • @Worldchaplain #38417 09:01 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    6800 usd for .619 btc
  • @Worldchaplain #38419 09:02 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    No cash
  • @Worldchaplain #38421 09:02 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Ahahahahahahahahahahajahahaha
  • @Worldchaplain #38423 09:02 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    I can send in bitcoin
  • @Worldchaplain #38425 09:02 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    But just showing you I have the funds
  • @Worldchaplain #38426 09:02 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Yes
  • @Worldchaplain #38429 09:04 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Understand
  • @Worldchaplain #38430 09:04 PM, 27 Jun 2019
    Wire transfer taking to long and I am trying to close a trade
  • 28 June 2019 (206 messages)
  • Use an exchange, bro
  • Cant has to be personal money held by my bank and cant move it till tomorrow
  • @raretruck #38439 01:07 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    You must realize how shady that seems
  • yeah I know lol thats why I need it done personally cause I have to show all my bank information and all that just to prove I have the money and can initiate the wire transfer
  • @483911280 #38442 01:53 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Anyone have 3,000 BTC to sell? I can provide screenshots that show lots of money.
  • @Worldchaplain #38443 01:53 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    No different then any real estate though
  • I know a guy, Ill shoot him a message
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38446 01:54 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I’ve got 2,999.69, so if anyone can send me 0.31, I’ll send the rest on ;)
  • @483911280 #38447 01:54 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Oops, didn’t mean to send that, don’t look
  • @XCERXCP #38448 02:03 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    You have $30,000,000 and you’re coming to CP that’s only worth
    $8,245,512.00. Think you’re in the wrong room 😂
  • Right lol
  • Why would you say that?
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38451 02:14 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Counterparty needs people bringing $30 million to the table
  • Thats true
  • @Worldchaplain #38453 02:18 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    But where would it go when barely any support for the tokenization of new projects lol
  • @XCERXCP #38454 02:18 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    It was kind of a joke. But if you have $30mm, you ain’t trying to unload like that. Trust me.
  • @XCERXCP #38455 02:21 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Bacon and eggs having trouble getting 0.621 btc, this guy has $30mm, he wants 3,000 btc 😂
  • 😂😃😅💪
  • @XCERXCP #38457 02:24 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Love the thinking hon 🔥
  • @Worldchaplain #38458 02:26 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Thank you bro just makes practical sense to me and my our bro Coconut lol
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38459 02:31 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    There will be plenty of companies with $30m+ valuations looking for the best way to represent their securities with a token. Why would Counterparty be their best choice?
  • @XCERXCP #38460 02:31 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Because it’s the highest secured token in the world.
  • @MattFnSmith #38461 02:31 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    So not serious about the OTC?
  • @MattFnSmith #38462 02:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I can get OTC done if anyones serious, other than that Im out of here again, peace
  • @XCERXCP #38463 02:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    What otc?
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38464 02:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Wheeler wasn't being serious, I was following suit
  • @benchbtc #38465 02:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    over the couter
  • @XCERXCP #38466 02:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yea
  • @XCERXCP #38467 02:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    What about it
  • This is a no brainer yes
  • @XCERXCP #38469 02:33 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    He can get what done?
  • This is what I try to explain here no one barely listens
  • @XCERXCP #38471 02:34 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    He can get otc done but other than that, he’s out of here? What does that mean?
  • This is what the power CP is and barely many see ... Dont get discourage bro someone serious may answer...
  • Thats the proper financial term that we who are serious need to understand .. The OTC
  • It means Im not going to sit here and post about, I have things to do for now 😄
  • @Worldchaplain #38475 02:37 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    This is what Counterparty represent to the new Financial world on the blockchakn
  • @XCERXCP #38476 02:37 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    What are the laws and regulations in regard to OTC. You can’t have bearer bonds, they are illegal.
  • I have nothing, I just have solid connections to OTC desks that can do it. Will give the referral
  • @MattFnSmith #38478 02:38 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Just here to help
  • @XCERXCP #38479 02:38 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yes, but we need to go through the proper channels.
  • @XCERXCP #38480 02:38 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Awesome. We love help.
  • Is the proper channel sending paper mail? I forgot we arent on the internet. Business doesnt care where or how you connected with someone, just that you did
  • @XCERXCP #38482 02:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    We never going to win in the long run by doing illegal things. I know that for a fact.
  • @XCERXCP #38483 02:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    We just can’t break sec laws
  • @MattFnSmith #38484 02:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    OTC isn’t illegal
  • @MattFnSmith #38485 02:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    They are legal entities and very well known
  • @heunland #38486 02:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I suggest you refrain from trying to advertise your OTC trading needs here. This has nothing to do with Counterparty.
  • @XCERXCP #38487 02:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    A bearer bond is.
  • Agreed, Im out like I said before lol Apologies, Im not about this OTC life, Im a dev
  • @XCERXCP #38489 02:40 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    We need devs!!
  • @XCERXCP #38491 02:40 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    You can be a legal operating proprietor on the network.
  • @XCERXCP #38492 02:40 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Good apply for some CIPs
  • @heunland #38493 02:40 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    right we should be talking about CIPs, not who needs to get some BTC to close an unrelated trade
  • @XCERXCP #38494 02:41 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Well hon needs help. We help our people.
  • @XCERXCP #38495 02:41 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    But yes, I should of discussed privately. You are right.
  • @XCERXCP #38496 02:42 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    My apologies Helene.
  • @heunland #38498 03:01 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    no need to apologize, it is just that there have been too many scammers trying to fool people into parting with their bitcoin
  • @XCERXCP #38499 03:07 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I def agree 100%
  • @XCERXCP #38500 03:07 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Entire crypto sector is one big scam pretty much beside cp and btc in my mind
  • @XCERXCP #38501 03:08 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Almost every ICO operating illegally. Enriching themselves. It’s maddening 🤬
  • @XCERXCP #38502 03:09 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    We’re the good guys over here and I’m really proud of that
  • @XCERXCP #38503 03:09 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Good always wins out
  • @XCERXCP #38504 03:11 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    And if you don’t win being good, at least you can still be proud.
  • @Worldchaplain #38505 03:33 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    OTC and SEC rules are pefect for CP lol
  • @Worldchaplain #38506 03:33 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Go hand and hand actually lol just we would be more simple and just create fin app for it and that it
  • @Worldchaplain #38507 03:34 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Been over this like a thousand times lol
  • @XCERXCP #38508 03:47 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    We’ll get there. We have 5 years of history behind us. Trust isn’t gained overnight. Everyday is one more trust notch on our belt.
  • As far as I can recall there has been only one mention of using CP for issuing an SEC compliant security in this group in the past three years and that was this one in 29.05.2018.
  • @rarepepetrader #38510 03:59 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    That was the only one I could remember... I did a few searches and there's been no real discussion of using CP tokens as SEC compliant securities, nor any other jurisdiction for that matter.
  • @rarepepetrader #38511 03:59 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Various discussions in different groups have discussed whether or not certain issued assets might constitute securities, but that's another matter.
  • @rarepepetrader #38512 04:03 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I presented a seminar on the fundamentals blockchain, smart contracts and tokenisation to a group of students from University of Deleware earlier this year... had a brief chat with the Associate Prof. from their Alfred Lerner College of Business & Economics. He was interested to know about that test case using a Delaware corp.

    Might follow up on reg. a Delaware Corp myself, talk to some of the faculty there about the process of securities tokenisation, see if they want to do any academic papers on it.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38513 04:26 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Interesting, too bad he didn't create a named asset https://xchain.io/asset/A15148423984253380000 He tweeted out the asset code with only 3 0's at the end. https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/987653058116112384?s=20
    Bruce Fenton

    2/ For this demo I used the simplest method I could: - company with one shareholder - simple Counterparty token (a protocol using the Bitcoin network) to create asset A1514842398425338000 - corp resolution to recognize tokens as shares - SEC exemption under section 4(a)(2)

  • @c0rnh0li0 #38514 04:29 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    He did create it on 420 tho, where's the DUTCHIE?
  • Was more then likely us lol
  • @Worldchaplain #38516 04:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I have the UN SDG action no. 27655 for our World Currencies issued on CP
  • @XCERXCP #38517 04:32 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yes. But to do this. We need a kyc compliant wallet or use cp as the transparent issuing shares ledger utilizing a centralized wallet. The later would be the fastest easiest way to make it happen.
  • Nail on the coffin DRS
  • Thats why I created the CES this is where compliance can come in
  • @XCERXCP #38520 04:33 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    What’s DRS?
  • @Worldchaplain #38521 04:33 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Along with coindaddy
  • @Worldchaplain #38522 04:34 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    As like credit verification and CES for basic exchange kyc as a community exchange.
  • @Worldchaplain #38523 04:34 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Direct registration System
  • @XCERXCP #38524 04:35 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Cool yes. Gotcha. I think the transparent ledger would be killer just to prove everything exists that you say exists. Be very easy for accountants to verify.
  • @Worldchaplain #38525 04:35 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Having a SRO project is a game changer to lol
  • @XCERXCP #38526 04:35 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    What’s SRO?
  • @Worldchaplain #38527 04:36 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Self regulating entity
  • @Worldchaplain #38528 04:36 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Pretty much what we are
  • @Worldchaplain #38529 04:37 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Or Self Reg Organization
  • @XCERXCP #38530 04:37 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Gotcha. Yes, it’s an excellent tool for contracts via closed systems.
  • @Worldchaplain #38531 04:37 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Or we set in place that body in the community
  • This goes with the scam token Idea because that be a token used by the SRO in the community
  • @Worldchaplain #38533 04:38 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    And we start designating particular groups parties and orgs for different parts in the community
  • @Worldchaplain #38534 04:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    All this needs devs and CIP work like Helene mentioned
  • @XCERXCP #38535 04:39 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I’m up for anything as long as we abide by the legal laws of the land
  • @XCERXCP #38536 04:40 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    That’s most important over anything
  • @Worldchaplain #38537 04:40 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    But it centers our focus to work together and in compliance with one another and all have a place in the community from your collectibles to your SEC type tokens get what I mean?
  • The name counterparty alone is the major legal eye poper
  • No CP risk
  • How's that? It was Bruce Fenton, per the linked tweet from Django.
  • @Worldchaplain #38541 04:42 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Any scam or legal offenses will be seen transparently
  • Because we been making post about I have steemits from like 2016
  • No saying it coundnt have been no else though
  • @Worldchaplain #38544 04:43 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Not*
  • Dope do you have the link? More source references the better for us all to
  • @XCERXCP #38546 04:44 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yes. Good point. But a stable coin would be illegal if not registered, and if the wallet utilizing the stable coin isn’t kyc, then that would be illegal.
  • on a decentralised protocol, there no need for compliance between entities and projects, each can do as they wish, according to their own objectives.
  • @XCERXCP #38548 04:45 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I’ll disagree.
  • @XCERXCP #38549 04:45 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    If it’s legal in your land, ok. If it’s not, it’s illegal and not ok.
  • Yes it no need but would still benefit
  • We will work in compliance hints SGD action no. 27655
  • @XCERXCP #38552 04:46 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Just because something is decentralized doesn’t mean the laws of the land don’t need to be followed.
  • @Worldchaplain #38553 04:46 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    We knkw we strongest system and SEC and DTC pretty much need to give up sham trying to skip over us and copy us pretty all they doing lol
  • @XCERXCP #38554 04:47 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    To be fair, we’ve had no governing body for a while. We can work on changing that.
  • Yes or doesnt mean community wont be developed on the decentralized platform or system or structure...
  • @Worldchaplain #38556 04:48 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Thing has this like a football team
  • @Worldchaplain #38557 04:48 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Everyone has friends or a track team is better
  • @Worldchaplain #38558 04:48 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    All have different aims and goals but one team
  • @XCERXCP #38559 04:48 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Decentralization is not need in most cases. It’s overhyped.
  • @XCERXCP #38560 04:48 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    I like it
  • Where did I say anything about not following laws?

    I only said that different entities and projects have no obligation to be compliant between each other.
  • @XCERXCP #38562 04:49 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    K I must of understood wrong. Gotcha.
  • Yes, different points... Your point of disagreement raised a point I said nothing about.

    No worries.

    It goes without saying we're bound to comply with the laws and regulations of the nations we're citizens of. Or residents in.
  • @Worldchaplain #38565 04:53 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yes you right but where it be lack need for a compliance may be a different premises when it comes to benefiting benefit the other parties in the community too like collectibles benefit if we get a app to go public or viral ... But dont mean the its a law each one has to abide by to other parties.. Branches or org depending on personal structure etc just a simple being able to benefit to each other maters to
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38563 #38566 04:54 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    😀
  • Multidimensional come with some misunderstandings somethings... Many kinks have to be worked out should seen me when I first joined lol way out of complience..not fully. Well only cause I was a new tadpole
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38563 #38568 04:55 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yes I agree with you. I misunderstood. I like this point.
  • @rarepepetrader #38569 05:05 AM, 28 Jun 2019
    All good... will catch up another time, work beckons.
  • @krostue ↶ Reply to #38565 #38571 04:22 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    you know that messages like this can be edited to be coherent, even the next day?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38571 #38572 04:37 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    You know you can’t fake being a dick
  • @XCERXCP #38573 04:39 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    And being a dick to a dick is the only way to proceed 🤩
  • I thought it was a hilariously poignant insight
  • It made me laugh too, as I spent too much time trying to make sense of the back and forth last night.
  • @rarepepenewsdotcom shared some insightful info
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38577 04:47 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Counterparty needs to start positioning itself to serve the securities market in the best way possible. It's not self-evident, but the protocol has a good leg up on the competition.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38578 04:49 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Having LLL-assets unused thus far is beneficial.
  • @Worldchaplain #38579 04:49 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Am sorry It was late
  • @Worldchaplain #38580 04:49 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    I was tired and type to fast lol
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38574 #38581 04:51 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Yea, try to be a better leader. Not funny.
  • @XCERXCP #38582 04:51 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    #truth
  • @c0rnh0li0 #38583 04:52 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Here is an interesting post that got no traction over 3 years ago: https://counterpartytalk.org/t/migrating-a-security-to-counterparty/1789
    Migrating a security to counterparty

    I want to ask how a migration can be done best. For example, a security on cryptostocks.com should be migrated. It’s hard to get all shareholder found out so the list is incomplete. Most shares have known owners but still many shareholders are unknown. Which means we would need to start without knowing all shareholders. Now how to start? We know the bitcoin addresses for a number of shareholders, so this would mean the issuer would send them their shares and keep the shares of unknown for the ...

  • @Worldchaplain #38584 04:53 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Okay yes now that I think I have been reading one on countertalk will post after I read this one
  • @XCERXCP #38585 04:56 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    No foundation breaking up over an argument this time. IDGAF, what we have to do is too important. So start respecting everyone who deserves it and start disrespecting everyone who deserves. The truth will set you free.
  • @XCERXCP #38586 05:00 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Only one way to tame a bully.
  • @jdogresorg #38587 05:01 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    If CP needed to start supporting tokens where AML/KYC work was done by the issuer, we could technically support it by adding asset inheritance like colored coins has... it will add additional (optional) limitations on what addresses are allowed to hold a certain token and would allow the issuer to maintain address lists of their AML/KYC customers... https://github.com/Colored-Coins/Colored-Coins-Protocol-Specification/wiki/Rules#holders ... This also means that CP would need to get into the biz of maintaining lists of addresses.
    Colored-Coins/Colored-Coins-Protocol-Specification

    Colu Colored Coins Protocol. Contribute to Colored-Coins/Colored-Coins-Protocol-Specification development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #38587 #38588 05:01 PM, 28 Jun 2019
    Our godfather is present 🤩