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Yes, the "closing" dispenser no longer displays in my wallet. Thank you!

BTW looks like you are having an epic holiday! What beach is that?

Happy New Yr to all the memesters and XCP maxis Bullish on 2024

The beach is Los Cabos, Mexico👍🏻

Just googled it, man that place looks beautiful!!!

Yup… beautiful beaches n some decent diving… this is me yesterday down at 120 feet under the surface swimming with fishes…. Was nice to relax n shut out the noise of the world for a few hours… building up my dive log for my advanced scuba certifications 👍🏻

Whoa, that is a amazing!!!!

Now you've got me interested in diving 😅

Perhaps we will have to meet up one of these days n do some diving together👍🏻😃

I've got to learn the basics first. But I do think we've got some good diving areas south of Okinawa and in the Philippines.

Are counterparty tokens technically nonfungible? Ex. All pepecash tokens

Or are they fungible

Updated - 5331 XCP available on verified dispensers

https://xchain.io/tx/047f1c223650c01a397d3129d1494830940ec599ca353ad694336cc00d706223 -- 0.00013300 -- 112 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/b294fa1287a08ec1a57cd62fd58c874d3d3441d4029681f2bfc4eeb542350668 -- 0.00016999 -- 27 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/1a6135d8dbbe360e6b490c0c9400e725dbd00276c1374744f903a4564029b4fd -- 0.00019900 -- 2500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/8f9a332d384d6b234352bb38f81e5cd1da0570d331b24dc53cd47c2b7631b0a6 -- 0.00020000 -- 195 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/28e80b51b31beeb5b0e38d27969b23e8cf5b603d6ecd0618ba64e64e36bcbb5c -- 0.00024500 -- 500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/c98087b834e56d9446400482a6e0895e6fc0b041b7f464619d62b421925dbdec -- 0.00027900 -- 1997 XCP

- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- Fees are 'low' today (compared to last few weeks anyway) due to the legal holiday
- Recommended fee: 28200 sat

Theu are pepegibles

Multiple supply tokens (like pepecash) are fungible. Only 1:1 tokens can be considered non-fungible

issuance asset is the NFT

for all named assets

Are you referring to transfer of ownership as the NFT? Because almost no one does that. Supply is considered the token element not ownership for pretty much every counterparty collection.

u madman

corn over here just posts the art for POWH - or the 0 issuance 'non fungible' rare pepe

happy new year XCP frens

and?

Still time to claim your free xmasbobo

https://x.com/DOGESTYLEEE/status/1738858622967280123?s=20

Is anyone having problems sending bitcoin using rarepepewallet?

Good day, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help me with a problem, I'm creating assets on testnet, my expectation is: I'm able to see the entries on xchain's testnet dashboard but I do not see anything, hoping for for some support or guidance.

post one of your testnet asset names else there is not much to go on

A1083353628750399000,A9992183104282876000, A3097420072388005000

are they 0 issuance locked?

I'm not quite sure what that means?

Xchain suppresses 0 issuance locked assets from being displayed

ahh look ... https://testnet.xchain.io/blocks it's a week behind

Oh, uhm... When I created my assets I noticed the last asset on the assets' list was created 5 days ago, now it's 8

was it 3 days ago when you created your assets?

yeah, I think I created 2 on one day and another the next day.

JDog will get xchain going again I am sure .. but right now he on vacation

okay, thank you for the help!

you may find you can interact with your assets using the Counterparty API whilst waiting for xchain to catch up to chain tip

I'll have a look!

Updated - 4461 XCP available on verified dispensers

https://xchain.io/tx/e1f50e05d287bf1c7abc8553ea9824f82c259853fe23f53bda83ab1b14a01399 -- 0.00012800 -- 49 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/f8a3858de1e6d9131660b9475bf3e1e2e41bbffdc32ced3b46ed24bdc7413930 -- 0.00013920 -- 690 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/d5d864043daf9d3b49311c3219e59bfbf2876a98f28eb7cab838c60e5fbaf0b5 -- 0.00014950 -- 500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/b294fa1287a08ec1a57cd62fd58c874d3d3441d4029681f2bfc4eeb542350668 -- 0.00016999 -- 27 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/1a6135d8dbbe360e6b490c0c9400e725dbd00276c1374744f903a4564029b4fd -- 0.00019900 -- 2500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/8f9a332d384d6b234352bb38f81e5cd1da0570d331b24dc53cd47c2b7631b0a6 -- 0.00020000 -- 195 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/28e80b51b31beeb5b0e38d27969b23e8cf5b603d6ecd0618ba64e64e36bcbb5c -- 0.00024500 -- 500 XCP

- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers

just saw this message and got the testnet parsing again... should be caught up in a lil bit

What is the sudden use of XCP because of? Went quiet for years now seems to be back but no main exchange listings. For the life of me I don't know why because XCP been around for time now. Anyone fill me in why its suddenly got such a following again? Someone find something interesting?

short answer is my x post ,long answer people realized XCP is the father of ORDI and he is sleeping 😂 potentially a utxo war somewhere ahead to happen to ordinals ,well, op_return war occured in in 2016 and counterparty is verified (10 years old)

Factos

Probably need more x post about XCP XDP history in different local languages like Chinese/ Hindi/Japanese. People like me would like to show more respect to legacy project like cp dp instead of chasing some fake innovation like XRC20 balabala which probably no usage .no maintainer after 1 year

Tomorrow I will send you an update with what is going on with Dogeparty, we have some new features being released soon.

Oh so this is the counterparty chat. I was still over at the other one which has been taken over by spam

Hey aren’t you responsible for the rpw website? I wanna thank you / you’re amazing for that tool.

That'd be @hodlencoinfield

How much does it cost to mint an nft on counterparty these days? It seems absurd people are paying thousands of dollars for ordinals…. Which depend on segwit to survive if im correct, and for the cost of a BTC tx they can have real semi fungibles and nfts that live on the actual chain?

Of course, on xcp we don’t have the hard data stored but still

A good approximation with segwit is [per_vb x 200] in sats.

60/vB x 200 = 12 000 sats (~5$) + 1XCP

+ about 30% with legacy address.

Well… it’s complicated lol

I thought Stamps was off XCP?

I'm so behind...

Or was that specifically SRC-20?

Got it. Ty.

but SRC-20 still counts towards the stamp count though?

Yes. Because I define the protocol. What I say is a Stamp Is a Stamp regardless of the technical underpinnings. It’s like how Coke used to be made with cane sugar and now it’s a completely different recipe. But it’s still considered Coke.

I didn't realize Canadians call cocaine cane sugar

Cocaine was like 100 years ago. The transition from cane sugar happened in the 80s I think. Mexican coke still uses cane sugar

Stamps has been called the “fake and ghey” protocol which is pretty true. It embraces the ethos of “blockchain” in that way. Blockchain isn’t really “technology” so much as it’s what you pour your hopes and dreams into.

Nope… that’s @hodlencoinfield …. I’m the dude who runs xchain.io n freewallet.io

Glad to see u back Katie… hopefully your done with ETH shitcoining 😜

Haha I know that shit is awesome

I went around minting pictures of my house for about 24 hours until fees became to expensive

i memba

i own one of them

you sent me the whole supply and issuance 😂😂😂

Haha forgot about that

GM

J dog is there any BTNS indexer to know how much Jdog i have, i minted it the day you deploy it lol

🎄🎄 Good news, fees are finally decreasing to reasonable levels... recommended fee today is 10,000 sat (lowest in the past 2 months)

See https://btns.xchain.io/token/JDOG
TLDR there is no successful JDOG mint, because Max Supply is 1

sweet time to go pepe hunting

Obviously

My poor xcp stash gonna get rekt again buying pepes😜

Random thought…. Minimum BTC miners fee requirements on CP txs… instead of requiring XCP for certain actions (issue, sweep, dividend), require a set amount of BTC be paid as a miners fee…

- no need for XCP “shitcoin”
- fees recycled to the BTC network
- discourages spamming by setting higher BTC requirements to get tx mined
- can switch to dynamic BTC pricing model in future (using oracles)

Not gonna write up a CIP…. But will be putting into BTNS as well as a GAS token to play around with anti-spam methods a bit.

Why not instead of sending bitcoin to the miners it’s used to pay for infrastructure costs? Wouldn’t that help address the “tragedy of the commons” that cp chronically faces while also acting as a minimum anti-spam mechanism?

Overall yes good idea to recycle funds back to CP community…. But, Who does that fund pay to? Who controls those funds? Recycling fees to btc network seems the most pure.

Also… suggestion was for CP… in BTNS I will do what u suggest with GAS fees n recycle to a community controlled fund to help cover operational costs, etc.

But until cp has some more official framework / structure around it…. Tough to collect/spend funds… cp funds donated to foundation requires foundation approval, so when foundation goes away, who can authorize spending of funds? We had this problem.

Then what would the function of XCP be??

Native token…. Primarily used on the DEX as the base token, since the DEX can’t escrow BTC… all tokens trade against XCP

Just throwing out ideas for someone else to move forward on if they want… not saying this is the direction CP should go…. Just brainstorming ways around the “xcp shitcoin” argument n replacing it as an anti-spam mechanism.

If XCP was a shitcoin, it be worth $100

Definitely details to work out. But I think we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water because of “what if?” Scenarios. If Cp is successful, then the foundation shouldn’t go away, things “go away” when they fail.

At the very least, it would be good if xcp got funneled back to infrastructure providers rather than destroyed

I think the US Treasury Dept might have some interesting opinions about that idea.

Xcp could go to $1000 and infrastructure could still go underfunded.

There’s an interesting parallel with bitcoin: core devs have to put up donation pages. Don’t assume they have a big bag of corn

I don’t think you can go back and change the way that XCP is used within the system to make it be recycled instead of destroyed…. IMO one of the value propositions of XCP is that it is a deflationary currency…. If we stop destroying XCP and start recycling it back into a community fund, XCP is no longer deflationary….

I think, changing the anti-spam mechanism could fly …. But changing XCP to not be a deflationary token is a bad move and not something I would support…. Goes back on what was said at launch…. Same as if we were to have another burn.

Agree we need to fund the community in someway tho

Would reducing the amount of XCP needed to burn be plausible at some point? Not sure its relevant to this convo….

The plan is always been to move to a dynamic XCP fee model based on the current supply remaining the current burn rate, etc…… we don’t want to stay on fixed hard-coded amounts…

But I think the bigger underlying issue here is the requirement of obtaining XCP for certain features.

IMO CP needs to either remove/replace XCP as the anti-spam mechanism… or make it fall into the background so that XCP is purchased automatically before being consumed.

I love XCP, but seems the larger market doesnt…. Removing the requirement to use anything but BTC would benefit CP imo

Would you honestly launch a new nft line on counterparty in 2023?? I find your faith intriguing. Maybe XCP comes back in a big way this bull cycle

I will say - rare pepes have continually defined the early nft market across multiple genres

Nope…. I’m stepping away from CP dev…. Stepped down as sole maintainer n focusing on other projects…. But still got love for CP, hold a bunch of XCP n assets, n maintain most of its infrastructure, so still interested in CPs success.

Again, just sharing thoughts… not saying this is path CP should take…. Up to the community n other 3 core devs to decide right path forward for CP👍🏻

It’s only thanks to them that I’ve recently been able to quit my night dishwashing job and get back into crypto. Apparently when me and psybin created KEKSBASILISK, that is the earliest significant use of AI art in an NFT (2017). I got a huge wake up call a month ago when people were screaming to throw Eth at me to buy them from me. They were sitting in a dusty old drawer on a post it note, forgotten about. Now they’re one of the hottest pepes; wild. If you managed to snag any of the original distro back in 2017, you’re now sitting on a gold mine.

Also, psybin (the artist) deleted his account a couple of years ago and vanished. If anyone has a lead on him, I’d like to know. I sent seven to his last known xcp address, but have no way to contact him

I will say that XCP’s direction of semi-fungibility over total non-fungibility still hasn’t been matched by the eth ecosystem. ERC1155 Is a fucking mess, but if you want to launch a semi fungible - you don’t have great choices

And i do appreciate everything the devs and community have done. XCP and Pepes have changed my life multiple times now. Astounding stuff

Love this story, congrats

but xcp is what makes the dex possible? can what you are suggesting be done while still having a dex?

Why would xcp go away if it stops being used for minting functions? Doesn’t impact the dex at all. In fact any asset works just as well as xcp (eg: pepecash) xcp just has the most liquidity

if we knew what we know now back in 2013-14, my guess is there never would have a been an XCP

it is a catalyst which brings more negatives than positives

but at the time, the idea of appcoins was all the rage

so of course you would have a platform token

Should have been called pBTC (pegged Bitcoin) or something like that. Perception is reality.

well its not bitcoin

It is if we pretend it is

not in 2013-2014

memecoins and nfts eventually pushed blockchain magical thinking into the new world of post-modern finance, but i highly doubt you would have gotten away with it 10 years ago

Anyways, if such a huge change is to happen to the protocol I think it’s the best opportunity to really think through addressing infrastructure costs. It’s now or never. Let’s put cp on a solid, sustainable path forward.

whats your longterm vision of counterparty or any of these meta protocols?

do you think they last forever?

Cp has defied the odds. I think it’s like a cockroach and will outlast them all.

Anyways, idk… I think you take your shot at sustainability… if that requires some form of governance so be it. There are always risks. There is risk at doing nothing

for sure, although the biggest risk is apathy

Yup

centralizing funding in counterparty at the protocol level is a non-starter imo, it thrives on the fact that there is no centralization as much as people like to point at jdog, his hands are tied when it comes to counterparty which is why hes now moved to BTNS

the history of counterparty is entwined with the history of bitcoin, its very difficult to change core tenets

doing OTC deals on PEPEDRMORG!
Fake Rare S16-C31
Issuance: 21

https://xchain.io/tx/9700c19512887c1bdf55c28f226b12309b2e41fa6632523241338abd8a744dc7

What if it wasn't at the protocol level... yeah, a lot of hand-waving to follow, and probably some very easy exploits: but the usage fees could be at the tooling level. This would be largely a "gentlemen's agreement" but there would be a fixed floor cost. Services could charge more, but not less than the established floor.

can you give an example of how you imagine that working

Basically a cartel lol

xchain, ychain and zchain all offer minting services. Fixed floor cost of 0.5 xcp which they get instead of the user burning.

so no body required to distribute funds

At the protocol level a bad actor could just "send xcp to their own wallet" and flood the network with "spam". So this would still need to be addressed.

Although they are still making a bitcoin txn (pricey lately) so not exactly "free to spam"

Maybe the bitcoin txn itself is the "anti-spam" mechanism

The xcp donation is just built into all the tooling ecosystem-wide using a gentleman's agreement.

Individuals will be able to skirt around this if they are tech savvy, but for the fat middle of the market, I think it would work.

the idea of a paid minting service is fine but why not just sell XCP at that point

sell xcp? Not sure I follow

minting costs 0.5 xcp so just sell 0.5 xcp to users

you can hide it or whatever

When xcp $100 again?

Out of curiosity, a few days ago I analyzed the top 200 XCP addies: 110 of them are dormant (no debits for at least 4 years), totalling 958,826 XCP

Which would leave only about 1,634,293 XCP in actual circulation

It's just an approximation but shouldn't be too far off

BTW does anyone have a contact at Bittrex or Poloniex?

Chain two txs. First buys xcp from dispenser, then mint. For end-user it appears as one tx Won't know xcp was part of the equation.

I had similar idea…. Tack an extra output on to issuance txs which purchases required XCP from dispenser before the XCP is required…. Use only BTC in txs… in the background the BTC pays the miners fee n buys the necessary XCP.

Here is a link to all the info I have on the various exchanges…. Compiled it a few years ago when I was pushing to get XCP listed on some CEXs

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17dSSEQH74nNrp0s-MbV97yreTjADDWwyGHH79doNG-M/edit

Last time I fucked up by telling y'all when it was too late. But not this time.

https://pepeflyers.com/sales/pepe-flyers-v2-green

We live. Don't sleep.

Free 🌍🌏🌎 shipping.

Bittrex/polo both are of the position that the XCP in their wallets belong to users even tho no way for the users to withdraw the XCP…. Also the exchanges can’t/wont legally claim the XCP as their own…… maybe in bankruptcy the xcp assets can be sold…. Dunno

TLDR the polo/bittrex funds are lost unless they go bankrupt, users withdraw somehow, or CP “reclaims” those funds (tough sell)

Does anyone in this group have funds locked up at Bittrex?

FYI They stopped withdraws and deposits on XCP in 2016/2017

seeing this recent outside interest in marketplaces like Magic Eden using partially signed bitcoin transactions to facilitate deals using ordinals.... is it possible there is some information or a github on doing this same pbst function for counterparty assets?

I was informed that Openstamp.io has developed a way to do psbt with btc and stamps. What would be the process of somehow sharing the info or documents on how to do this psbt tx's to get Counterparty projects and assets on nft markets like Magic Eden?

It's a strange topic due the DEx and such being so historically operational, and if I'm not mistaken this is the same function used in BTC/TOKEN pairs using BTCpay on Freewallet if I am understanding this correctly?

idk if this is possible, bc of the thing that for transfer is required to be signed and op_return with the destination address

i think they are handling an escrow

confirmed, they are handling an escrow system

but yes an improve to allow this kind of transfer would be huge for cp assets

they usually use the browser style integated wallets like metamask and xverse and such - and i know most of the community here either uses freewallet dot io , counterwallet or places like stamped ninja or rarepepewallet dot wtf.... but one we usually don't see much talk about is Freeport.... which is much more similar to that metamask/xverse kind of user interface style

idk what it would take to start integrating OP_RETURN into pbst or what they would need to set up escrow but I feel like it would be a good thing for all the communities here

cause scarce dot city has it down very clean

and we have a few ecosystems that already read the dex and dispenser datasets like pepe dot wtf....

it almost seems like instead of the older viewpoint of getting XCP on centralized exchanges, it might be a better time than never to start getting XCP project's and their asset on centralized token (NFT) exchanges

and getting those websites to have a good place to start when integrating the Counterparty Protocol into their escrow systems

A dominant NFT market called element dot market anyone would like to make a phone call to the boss of it? I can help a little bit...Actually you can also go directly and contact  binance for help..

Hey everyone, this one is a pretty cool multichain NFT marketplace where users can list NFTs on different chains for sale in various cryptos. I’ve used it before and the interface is pretty slick.

Maybe someone who understands the technical requirements can we get in touch with them and discuss possible integration? It could be a great move if it works out.

https://ghostmarket.io/assets/

not what i was looking for

I'm guessing that one of the logical goals is finding ways to get XCP listed for the sake of liquidity. Counterparty's NFTs on the Bitcoin blockchain, as far as I know, are the great granddaddies of the NFT space. So, in my opinion, it makes sense to make them available on any legitimate NFT marketplace possible and ideally also allow them to be listed in XCP.

The Phantasma blockchain, one of the chains on Ghostmarket, provides the ability to infuse assets. Therefore, it could be possible to create NFTs with XCP infused in them as a way for people to buy and sell XCP. This would allow people to buy XCP and have it for purchasing the original and new Counterparty NFTs on the Bitcoin blockchain.

Eventually, Ghostmarket will probably have a DEX, and if XCP is already on the platform, then it makes sense that it would be added to the DEX.

So, although it might not have been what you were thinking, it could still have value for XCP holders.

https://i.gyazo.com/736f9f9e497e55efb6533bdcb387f1d3.png

Just more numeric asset spamming... you all know my views on this... it is abuse, as numerics were meant as a way for people to TRY out CP, not meant as a way for people to primarily use CP.... I am still of the opinion that we should put an XCP fee on numerics (as I am doing with XDP fee on numerics on Dogeparty).... as it is clear this numeric spamming will continue until an XCP fee is added to discourage this type of spamming behavior... The Pull Request to add XCP fee is pretty straightforward.... https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/1237 ... up to you guys how to handle... just pointing out again, here we are 6+ months out from our last XCP fee discussion and the spamming continues... and it will continue to do so until the issue is addressed.... That is all I have to say on this topic.

https://i.gyazo.com/993636f9df7b2a01874471c6cc6afc43.png

over 1500 numeric assets spammed in the span of a few hours..... TOTALLY not an attack.. TOTALLY normaly usage.... something we definitely want associated with CP... spamming numeric assets and bloating the UTXO set at the same time (with UTXOs that cant even be gathered)..... oh how quickly our platform can pivot from being seen as "responsible blockchain usage" for 10 years to a "abusive UTXO spamming shit-show" within 1 year. 🤦️️️️️️🙄 </end thoughts>

gm

defo saw the 5 confirmations before the owner then appeared to close the dispenser

Anything you can do to help? Or is there anything i can do?

xchain appears to be behind

Yes! Would be so great!
And I hope they will improve their UX as it’s key nowadays 💜

By the way
Are you interested in buying collectible NFTs based on the real artist with a story behind and for whom art, photography and graphic design is their major activity?

I think this makes their NFTs more reliable over time as investment assets.

anyone know how i can confirm if an asset listed on opensea is legit? I'm not sure how to check if its legit listed thanks to emblem vault or not

cant imagine why... lol... seriously tho... should be good now... parsing lags sometimes on blocks with a bunch of CP txs.... issue in counterparty2mysql... hopefully can remove this bottleneck in the future by optimizing counterparty2mysql or by using a native Mysql database inside CP so we can do away with the need to port data from sqlite to mysql 👍️️️️️️ TLDR... should be caught up now

Technically, the wallet from which the deployment of an src20 is launched can be called: genesis block? or rather the genesis wallet.

Best to ask your SRC/Stamps question to the Stamps people... they can answer about their system ... http://t.me/bitcoinstamps

Quick reminder that Pepe Flyers are up for sale.

No yelling when you realize you done slept.

The official website cannot be opened

what official website? counterparty.io is up

The web wallet I have been using cannot be opened

counterwallet you mean?

yes is down, the last counterparty update broke it

devs are working on it

in the mean time you can import your seedphrase in other wallets like freewallet (not recomended for stamps as they will stop supporting it) or ninja wallet

maybe leather also

👌

https://x.com/roccometa01/status/1743404730469195860?s=46&t=GPfiwa46pOLAeEdMc5rHUA

XCP (Counterparty) is more powerful and has a longer history than BRC20. I don't know why BRC20 is more popular?

Counterparty will benefit from BRC20 prosperity sooner or later...back to the source

question, what do i need to do to see old dispensers they dont show up in wallet

I think it’s because people like to feel “early” and have potential upside. Plus Twitter influencooors

check your address on xchain and look under the "dispensers" tab

Liquidity begets Liquidity. Network effect matters. A namespace protocol without network effect has no value.

Its like VHS vs Betamax. The superior technology solution matters less than whichever has achieved the greatest network effect.

I'm leaning toward it being a fad that will end when the money dries up. The "first" BRC20s will always have some collector value, but the whole ordinals space is due for a massive correction soon, if its not already underway.

Until the next VC pump.

Updated - 4518 XCP available on verified dispensers

https://xchain.io/tx/31a669dda94d2e115a0be936846c142c901afea5d502a8c0a6cd300a008b547c -- 0.00010300 -- 91 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/5392418b00003815f37c0d6e1afb8bcd252161e700bcfc3ebdbded731a08ce6e -- 0.00012999 -- 42 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/f8a3858de1e6d9131660b9475bf3e1e2e41bbffdc32ced3b46ed24bdc7413930 -- 0.00013920 -- 690 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/d5d864043daf9d3b49311c3219e59bfbf2876a98f28eb7cab838c60e5fbaf0b5 -- 0.00014950 -- 500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/1a6135d8dbbe360e6b490c0c9400e725dbd00276c1374744f903a4564029b4fd -- 0.00019900 -- 2500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/8f9a332d384d6b234352bb38f81e5cd1da0570d331b24dc53cd47c2b7631b0a6 -- 0.00020000 -- 195 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/28e80b51b31beeb5b0e38d27969b23e8cf5b603d6ecd0618ba64e64e36bcbb5c -- 0.00024500 -- 500 XCP

- As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
- 3x 1000 XCP bundles are also available OTC today, at 0.135 BTC each

Am I the only one having this?

ah its back again

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/1298

Here is a pull request to counterparty-lib main repo which puts a 0.10 XCP fee on numerics and activates on block #829,020 (1 month)... my hope is that the CP community pushes this change through and there is no need for a fork.

https://github.com/jdogresorg/counterparty-lib/releases/tag/v9.62.0

Here is the 9.62.0 release I will be running on xchain which includes fixes I believe CP should have... pull requests are open for these 3 changes in main counterparty-lib repo. 👍️️️️

1. Go to dispensers screen (for my dispensers, XCP, etc.).

2. Click the settings icon.

3. From "View Options" menu, unclick "Hide Closed."

Thanks take a look see

hey guys who has asked for a fork in christmas?

Jdogparty it’s called I hear

Stamps will continue on the core open source counterparty repo and continue to support the ecosystem.

Nice approach, being blatant about it now.

Please don't lie to everyone though. You are the one threatening fork with no discussion

Already cut off api access to some core devs that had gotten permission to use xchain API’s

https://i.gyazo.com/28e909e799b28c5ed270806f9196ac82.png

https://i.gyazo.com/50484c97bb3552144a2124327eafe74c.png

All I did was enable rate-limiting on my APIs to ensure that XChain can stay up and available for EVERYONE to use, not just a few users.

I now allow :
- 30 API requests per 60 seconds (0.5/sec)
- 90 explorer requests per 60 seconds (1.5/sec)

I am sorry if this change negatively impacts stamps 🤷️️

https://i.gyazo.com/13fecc317b437c5dc904f2be616586fb.png

Can already see a HUGE drop in the load on xchain... I can now go from having to maintain 7+ API servers down to 3... all by simply cutting off abusive API requests.

My priority is the Counterparty Community, not the Stamps community.

ser tell the truth not just what you want to show, this request are bigger bc you cut the access and they were retrying

Tell the truth?
You can't teach an old dog new tricks

a usage you approved

and consulted before starti

this is why I posted the FIRST screenshot... look at total API requests... down 50%... NOTHING to do with the 6 million requests I blocked from your specific server... we have agreed the 5+ million API requests over a few hours was just due to your scripts retrying... not intentional

not trying to mislead anyone here bro 👍️️️️

https://i.gyazo.com/3019b792066a0ee79f4a2966a7ec9447.png

yes wasnt intentional and not the normal request you were experimenting at xchain

Stamps will continue to support the counterparty community by maintaining the core counterparty repo bits and by not support a rogue copy of counterparty outside of consensus.

rate-limiting APIS just cut down on abusive traffic by 75%... not saying stamps was all that traffic

No one is forcing any changes into counterparty-lib.... I am just forcing conversation and a decision by counterparty CP community within 30 days or xchain will be running the 9.62.0 fork from my repo.... counterparty API servers will stay on whatever version CP community wants... still 30 days for a solution to be found... keep some perspective ppl.

At least do some cpu mining with all that unused cpu power. Would be nice to give everyone a notice in the entire counterparty community. This isn’t all about stamps it’s about ensuring the long term success of cp as a whole. Forcing everyone to choose a side doesn’t help anyone

Everyone can choose to be in a jdog fork or the core counterparty bits is what it comes down to

But you said you’re in favor of the XCP fee also… I’m confused why we have an issue?

We are just sticking with the core cp consensus regardless. A fee has not been decided at the protocol level. Only on the jdogparty fork.

The core problem is db performance of an 8GB database and discussions are in place in how stamp devs can help implement major upgrades into the core bits. Perhaps without a required xcp burn fee which inhibits adoption of CP by new members of the community. Either way that aspect is irrelevant of jdogparty fork. At least all cp assets will be duplicated for sale in two places! Double the value!

Im not sure that anyone that the job of maintaining was left to have even acknowledged they would do anything

The core maintainers are discussing db changes on the core bits. It’s best to fix a core problem rather than to simply add fees that have no real value to many in the community besides large bag holders of xcp. Such as jdog holding a 1% stake admittedly of xcp tokens. The required burn seems to have motives

borderline semantics when he has been the one progressing the protocol, just not under his own repo

it would be more suggestable if the other founders were or have been active recently

borderline semantic yours trolling on a dev chat you shouldnt be in as you are not dev

this isnt dev chat

At least under his own repo it will be clear he is making personal decisions. Not decisions that impact a community of devs.

this not but the one you have been trolling all day of today and yesterday yes disturbing the important convs

I wasn't trolling

disturbing and trolling yes

enturbing conv and being useless

this broken english unreadable post is trolling

im totally with you, but you have to understand that xcp has not any sense to exist if cannot help to support the protocol is not enough as an spam fee and is not enough to suppport infraestructure just waiting it to pump

yes im not english talker

Now it has two places to pump at least

probably shouldn't criticize me then

i can yes and i will tell all who ask me that you are a borderline

right whatever that means

at least you understand the point and keep trolling with nothing useful. I suppose you are fully supportive of jdogparty and leaving CP and it's community behind?

Ive been pretty quiet in the dev chat and paid attention and tried to hear people's explanations and intentions

at least jdogeparty fork will be cool

fits better lol

a borderline just thinking in his bag, that cannot understand that 0.1 xcp fee will not stop any spam when what you called spam is 100x more expensive to create, a borderline who doesnt understand that adding a small bitcoin fee in issuances instead could help to support the needed dev work to create opensource tools, to support infraestructure costs NOT JUST GET YOUR BAG BIGGER

just say btns

JAJAJAJAAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJ what you smoke send me your dealer

if this is being quiet...

like anyone gives a shit about btns. we are here to support the cp ecosystem.

all I suggested is that the new maintainers hardly agreed to actually progressing the protocol

they are open to discussions on how to fix the db issues. not just randomly install a fee for no real reason besides pumping bags

all you suggested? i can start sending your shitposts if is what you want but im deving not like you

Im sure if someone worked out a solution for the db then maybe but I think if its going to stay stagnant and petty with noodle tier commentary no one is going to give a fuck

and i'm sure would be very supportive of a PR that implements it

as of this recent chat, yes. By all means go ahead.

if we need to be fixing things and rushing thing is not possible to get time to contribute back we explained that

Right and as of 4 hours ago the circumstances for your new to be maintainers has changed

is the point I was making

at least there is trust in the new to be maintainers. not random ultimatums that divide an entire community. which is enough for me to fully support the new found maintainers

'entire community' is yet to be determined

you act like stamps is going to be a make or break it deal for the majority of counterparty users that have been here

I’ve never seen Jdog try to pump XCP

Eventually the price of XCP would go up with more burning and be a higher deterrent

If Jdog main purpose was to pump his bag, he would do a higher fee IMO

which again is why I was making the point that if there isn't a significant reason for the 'maintainers' to maintain nothing is going to progress

I don't even think the intention is to pump bags because the amount is so low (0.1 xcp) and the likelyhood is that Stamps will no longer be present anyways, so nothing to pump xcp. When I take a look at the abrupt nature of this (an ultimatum game of chicken) and the "fork" image used in the tweet, it really feels like the intention is to force a risky fork which I think can only do reputational damage to counterparty as a whole. It's pulling the curtain back to reveal one guy pulling the levers... not very "decentralized" from an optics perspective. Wonder what that will do to the value of all those historical grails when the market realizes the true reality.

the current infrastructure can't support a larger presence and if you don't have solution theres nothing to maintain

We already gave solutions

We gave solutions

Remove SQLite and this PHP buggy script and add mysql

Is just an old engine db issue

Is 8gb db is not big

If you were dev you could understand it

But as you are not dev you just see the problem not the solutions

We are giving solutions for the db problem, for supporting infraestructure growing, to onboard new users but you don't want to hear

decentralized isn't really something that means much for this context I think you realize that

Okay thats great, now you have to do it

doesnt matter what I think... I said from an "optics" perspective

Jajajajajaja It means everything in blockchain

and if you don't do it, its not jdogs problem

you see?

If I have not to loose my time arguing with you and fixing breaking things I would do it, was the intention since the begining but we have to been rushing things

Am I really dropping 500K on a Nakamoto card when I find out that the protocol is largely controlled by a single individual? We're all on the inside, so we get the "nuance" but the market thinks very differently about "blockchain" like its magic pixie dust. You really don't want to burst the bubble that gets someone to drop a half million on a token.

whats the worst that could happen?

the value of XCP go down

oh no that's the least of it. Reputational damage to Counterparty

in the woods with a group and a bear chasing you just have to be the least slow

you see that you just thinking in your bag?

im really not it was a joke

You act like this space has some high level of standards and ethics

some maybe do, but hardly most

We all love to shit on Ethereum, but objectively speaking its like 1000x more decentralized. That's the magic sauce. You don't want to piss in the magic sauce.

do what

yep.... but you gotta have the tools to pull off the fork (APIs, explorers, wallets, etc) in order to pose a real threat 🤷️️️️️️

PISS IN THE MAGIC SAUCE

https://twitter.com/jdogresorg/status/1743812762009211075

bro all the nodes are on AWS

@mikeinspace already sent you 2 🙂

mine not

its PoS

'decentralized' what

the comparison is flawed anyways

A layer 1 blockchain to... a DNS system?

at least they are working to do it more decentralized in the future

Yes. Because I define the protocol. What I say is a Stamp Is a Stamp regardless of the technical underpinnings. It’s like how Coke used to be made with cane sugar and now it’s a completely different recipe. But it’s still considered Coke.

Sounds decentralised

decentralized means hardly anything in this respect, what does matter is uptime, people not getting rugged and the protocol not getting manipulated

you love out of context lol

Why did you include BTNS? That's getting forked off too?

now maybe, maybe, if XCP actually had fair value, we could talk about the main gitrepo using a bit more decentralized method of implementing changes

dumbass comment

already hesitation to change 'precedent' towards using XCP to broadcast votes

I don't even code dude. I'm like an the project mascot. Kevin has more control over the protocol at this point than I do. There are actually 10-12 Stamps devs working in various capacities, I'm just an ego maniac that takes all the credit

satire*

but at least all that decentralized talk and bubble rugging reputation would be more relevant

It’s there

underpinning it all to one token is meaningless

its getting blown out of the boobie

aka RAREPEPE

Yup… once BTNS indexer is done I’ll launch XChain platform on BTC / LTC / DOGE initially but on other chains pretty fast… entirely new/separate/clean ledgers tho…. Not forking CP/DP ledgers... dankest, llc gonna be busy this year https://twitter.com/dankestllc

We need to buy a stamp costume, jokes aside, what does all this mean, stamps will only be recognised in other wallets?

what wallet

🤷‍♂

Or stamps become invalid? Or duplicate

No more free numerics in 1 month?

Stamps will still exist on CP…. Just won’t be visible in xchain or freewallet (no dispenser pages, no API support, etc)

So nothing will technically duplicate

you mean they won't exist on jdogparty fork

Sounds trolly

the original CP bits will still recognize all stamps

I meant the constant use of jdogeparty, thought we didn't like trolling

calling it what it is. it's not CP. it's a fork

and nobody has proposed a better name than jdogparty

jdogeparty on doge

jdogparty on btc

makes sense

Has it been officially called jdogeparty?

If not still trolly

it's not counterparty is all i know

sounds more like old repo will be XCP classic

How many official counterparty devs are there?

And that’s the exciting thing about a fork! Both sides assume they will have the official status! 🍿

Counterparty Mike's Vision

I don't know how anything has changed necessarily we have 1 potential maintainer

Who do we blame?

You already know, c'mon now.

with vague ideas of a db solution

It’s not though. I didn’t make the current version of Cp

It's all about marketing. The truth doesn't matter.

you are going to need a wallet for named assets, a new explorer, a new db, funding, and servers

when will it be ready

I don't think what you think is going to happen is going to happen.

the maintainer quit?

Probably dev’ing

3 xcp tokens sounds interesting

I guess technically theres 5

if 2 forks

https://x.com/ROCCOmeta01/status/1743879187029753970?s=20

Lmao

Thanks

I just got in touch with xcp and had some doubts. . $Xcp was born in 2014, why hasn't it gone up?

Seems that you have arrived at just the right moment

Will smart contract documents be released in the near future?

Where can I buy xcp?

Int the dispensers https://xchain.io/asset/XCP

Or OTC https://t.me/xcpdesk

Who woke up and thought i know, I’ll piss off the only people using xcp atm by ostracising them

To boost the rise of XCP (Counterparty), several strategies can be employed:Increase Community Engagement and Education: Building an active community is vital for any crypto project. Educating and training users can increase understanding and interest in XCP.Improve Technology and Infrastructure: Continually improving the technology and infrastructure of XCP is crucial to ensure its stability, security, and user-friendliness.Promotion and Marketing: Raising awareness of XCP through effective marketing strategies can attract more users and investors.Establish Partnerships: Forming partnerships with other blockchain projects or companies can enhance the utility and visibility of XCP.Innovative and Unique Use Cases: Developing unique applications and services based on XCP can showcase its unique value and practicality.Regulatory Compliance: Ensuring compliance with regulations and policies in different countries is essential for broader market acceptance.Optimize User Experience: Providing an easy-to-use interface and tools can lower the barrier to entry and attract non-technical users.Market Feedback and Iteration: Listening to community and market feedback and continuously iterating and improving the product is important.Implementing these strategies requires investment in time and resources, as well as ongoing collaboration with the community and stakeholders.

chatxcp

so the core issue is that xcp is having too much traffic?

Pass the BTNS

tank & roll

Thank you JDog!

Just saw this. DM me

I seems Freewallet does not support numeric assets anymore. What wallet should I use?

If you are in a hurry use the counterparty api and then use freewallet to sign txhex

Projection

or use coinb.in can sign counterparty api generatd txhex in ya browser

We fully support JDog and the rugpull on you clowns 🤣

@jdogresorg I’m no Stamp maxi, but I own millions of dollars of RarePepes, and your knee jerk reactions here are extremely alarming. I had no idea Counterparty was so centralised that one person could make such a big impulsive decision overnight that could effect so many negatively. I would urge you to take a breath and put your ego to one side, and try and work towards a more pragmatic solution for Stamps that doesn’t penalise thousands of innocent people who have been introduced to Counterparty recently via Stamps. You may not see it now but I honestly believe your actions here could be the beginning of the end of RarePepe and Counterparty if you’re not careful. Cos who on earth wants to own expensive digital assets on a chain that’s essentially controlled by and at the mercy of ONE person’s beliefs and mood. What happened to decentralisation?!? It’s honestly the first time I’ve ever thought about selling my RarePepe cards and I will have to if I don’t see a more pragmatic solution begin to unfold. I really hope you rethink your stance on all this sir. Such a terrible look for Counterparty and RarePepes.

no worry ser, the problem wss relying on no opensource tools

this will change

What’s your addy what do u want to sell? Maybe go back to meth

From what I understand, J-Dog is no longer the maintainer of Counterparty. There are devs looking to maintain, optimize and improve the existing tooling.

Maybe this split is a good thing

And is what truly decentralizes XCP

There won't be a split.

In the long run

I didnt mean it like that

But, yes, it galvanized the dev base.

This is what i meant

XCP, like life, cannot be a circle jerk where everyone agrees

This place is cool asf

And XCP is Bitcoins killer app

Kills off degen DNA too 🤣

I personally like my stamps

But if peeps dont wanna see them

Well

🤷‍♂️

I honestly hated seeing that trash in my wallet

Glad i don’t have too anymore 🤣

With that mentality....good to know what CounterParty is intend to become

I'm glad we're doing what we can to deal with the numeric spam, though I still don't 100% understand what they are. I just know XChain gave me a scary message today warning they wouldn't be supported anymore

I'm assuming no named XCP assets qualify as those

1XCP=100usdt
Lets go to the moon!

I have a friend who said that posting such a message here was kicked out of the group. Isn't that absurd?

Also, was doing some thinking - the only reason XCP exists is people running a full XCP node right - making sense of the OP Return data and allowing the XCP assets to continue to live? Maybe I'm wrong about that. I know it maybe could be gamed, but perhaps XCP becomes a way to 'stake' and host an XCP node - and then require a small amount of XCP per transaction that is distributed to XCP masternode owners (who are both running a reliable node and also staking the XCP).

This gives XCP both anti-spam properties and also a reason to exist

why were they in your wallet?

shit take

You obviously hold nothing of value.

People sent them to me cause of other assets I own. Glad that spam is gone 🤣

you obviously a r e nothing of value

i don't understand why you're still here? Arent you moving onto the jdog fork? Let us move along and continue improving Counterparty. Start a new chat for that shit

Good luck degen 🤣

I think he thought the reverse... 🤣

Maybe now we see xcp integration vs. Shooting adoption in the foot

oh he thought we were moving onto the jdog fork perhaps so he could keep CP.

Is his decision to make and justify, it's not your right to attack him for it just because it negatively impacts, in your eyes, your bags

They didn't read the spec

it doesn't impact anything for me.

besides more motivation to help build the core CP

Are "stamps" (whatever those are) the same as the numeric spam that was eating up all the blockchain? The crayons in my belly are rumbling from acid refluct and I'm confuse.

and watch the jdog fork and all it's hateful trolls off in the distance

i believe it's the recent flood of btns transactions are the spam that took down xchain

thats awesome, imagine if you had actually used named assets, there wouldn't be 200k shit tokens flying around clogging everything

jdog has clowned the entire nft community by himself for a decade. Yall have no idea what you got yourself into. Hahahahahaa

we do use named assets

fully supported

I'd stop eating crayons.

inb4 OP_Return cut to 2 bytes to combat spam

there shouldn't be free asset creation at this point for non-stake holders

200k tokens? You must be confused

it really is that simple

Here's the history: instead of image pointers, we cram the entire image's base64 into the decription field to put the image "onchain". This is the cool new thing to do since Ordinals. Onchain is a good meme. Anyways, they are called Bitcoin Stamps. They use numerics as a defensive mechanism against "FUD" largely echoed by the creator of Ordinals about Counterparty. "XCP is a shitcoin" hence Counterparty isn't really seen as "NFTs on Bitcoin". Right or wrong, that's from an optics perspective. So anyways, we rebranded these Counterparty assets as "Bitcoin Stamps" and they became very popular. Too popular. Now they are seen as spam for clogging up the xchain and are banned for being, and I quote, "Fake and Ghey".

bitcoin had a similar fee structure and moved past it, but I guess that means nothing

only banned on jdogparty not the core counterparty to be clear

stamps devalue the integrity of everything that started the entire NFT and digital art era

This is solved by any XCP asset requiring a small amount of XCP both to create, and to send, which is a fee market similar to bitcoin - with fees going to XCP masternodes?

The json string attached to the RAREPEPE asset results in a a 404 - so no wonder people want more robust NFTs

I know many are too absorbed to understand that or too parasitic to care

If stamps are legit uses of XCP bandwidth and paying the fee, then there would be no problem

I’m always impressed by Mikes calmness lol

Also it makes XCP a lucrative token to hold and stake, which rational actor greed aside - makes for a nice economy that will self sustain

If solved means "add friction to slow usage" that doesn't match reality. 0.1 xcp is easily absorbed into the cost when the mining fee to mint a Stamp is like $200

retrospectively its not

the problem is that fees are burned. not directly utilized to maintain nodes. so simply adding a fee doesn't really help anyone besides large xcp bagholders like jdog that want to see the supply diminish

how many numeric stamps are there?

45k

How does it self-sustain if the xcp is burnt and doesn't go to pay for infra? Its just an assumption that those running infra have a big bag of xcp and are also going to use it to fund the infra

If stamps require XCP infastructure to exist (such as XChain) doesn't it follow that they should be incentivizing and contributing to that infrastructure's existence? Even from a rational perspective? is there a stamp friendly alternative to Xchain where I can see and understand "stamp space"? If not, why not? And who will build and incentivize it

1/4 of counterparty assets

Non stake holders....woahh that's a serious term

people pay for convenience in tooling and services

I don't hold much XCP but it would seem a given to me that I should need XCP to create and send XCP assets.

You have to have a stake in CounterParty to use it?

Like this a company?

I thought it was a decentralized protocol

Yes. I agree. Too much reliance on xchain apis. There are multiple other explorers that are working on removing those dependencies as we speak.

You have to own bitcoin to send it? Like this is a company? I thought this was a decentralized protocol

do you have to have a stake in bitcoin to use it?

I'm not using a layer 2

👌🏻

I'm paying bitcoin to use Bitcoin

It makes a lot of damn sense to me that you'd have to pay XCP to use XCP... like every other self-sustaining crypto ecosystem in existence?

I'm actually surprised I don't.

Like, that's just basic game design theory? Otherwise it's similar to wanting to drive on clean interstate highways while complaining that you should be tax exempt

the thing is that xcp is not a chain