- 15 January 2024 (686 messages)
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The way it's noted is a little weird.
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Can you read if now?
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Why I can't send images and gif?
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are you on the wrong fork?
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May I share my text with you to share in the group
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Seems like I am fully forked
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Seriously dunno what word is bad
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Such a simple message
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It has no links or images
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Ok let me send it in paragraphs maybe till I find the unlucky word
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I will try again
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If you want digits on chain is because of the future profits, so must take the good with the bad (small fee) which will be worth it long run
Also if you have network f ees, then you can afford small fe e
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It worked
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Yeah. It’ll be awesome
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STAMPSLUT’s been slutting around in the mempool but blockchair says she’s coming him in 16 minutes
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Oh god we got an Elon Stan. No, I’m not going to read a ghostwritten piece of Elon fan fiction.
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No surprise the stampers think Elon is a genius. Go listen to Joe Rogan in your cyber truck while you trade your stamps, king.
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Anyone here remember GSOS from Japan? Is he still around?
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I understand the view of not liking Elon, but I don’t understand the view of thinking Elon is not a genius.
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Counterparty (@CounterpartyXCP) on X
*ANN* Adam Krellenstein (@agkrellenstein), creator and co-founder of Counterparty, will be re-joining Juan, @wasthatawolf, and @jp_janssen as a maintainer of the protocol ref. implementation 🎉 A special thanks to @jdogresorg for his work as lead maintainer these past years! 🙏
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I have lots of pepes,I have a Tupacpep lowest listing right now for .011 btc,plus you’d get 5 makepeperare aswell
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Is pepewtf still under maintenance?
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Which one is $Bill?
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Please point to something he has done personally that establishes genius - not the people around him mind you - he has had the money to surround himself with some incredibly talented actual geniuses who insulate him from his own bad decisions and ego for a long time.
Intelligent? Sure, he’s top 1%, but that’s a big club. Everyone in this chat is top 1%.
A nerd? Sure, but that means nothing.
A genius? Nahhhh. The authors of the Mimblewimble paper were geniuses. Alan Turing was a genius. Hawking was a genius. Elon musk is a successful businessman who spent an insane amount of money on his own PR - and things like Twitter and the cyber truck are great examples of what happens when he’s not insulated from his own bad decisions - 16 January 2024 (333 messages)
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Why has Elon been able to build rockets from scratch that nation states with unlimited money and resources could only dream of creating?
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"He didn't build that..."
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Feels the anti-Elon take is more political than factual to me
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Almost as if its a personal attack on someone Katie never even met
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I think elons a govt asset,no way he came outta nowhere with hundreds of billions in govt funding for all his projects
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He didn’t come out of nowhere. He started by bidding on public govt contracts like you or anyone else can do.
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Anyone else getting rate limited?
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Yeah the site is still screwed up,I’ve had transactions pending since the first day the site went down
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Wow I can’t believe it’s actual Elon fanboys. God, you used to be able to get paid for that a few years ago, and here you guys are out doing it for free.
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Hearing him talk about Dogecoin made it abundantly clear he had zero idea how a blockchain actually worked, and he quickly threw a temper tantrum when he found out that Dogecoin doesn’t need him to try to take credit for its existence
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How does it work ?
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There are some true geniuses working at Tesla and space x, and a shit load of government funding. Elon got to be the poster boy for all of that, and luckily had some functional adults to insulate him from his own hubris. but when he doesn’t have anyone to check his ego - you get absolute trainwrecks like Twitter.
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….its a proof of work blockchain. Well, a fucking side chain to litecoin now I think. Back when Elon was buying up every Dogecoin in existence and sending the price skyward he made some really ignorant statements about it which made it clear he really didn’t understand crypto and definitely not decentralization
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Yeah but how does it work
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Not even a little bit but keep projecting your hatred and presumptions
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You sound really triggered bro, let’s get you unplugged for a few days so you can unwind
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Im good bro you are the one ragepoasting Elon hatred
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Anyway, I can’t think of a stupider move than buying a social media network with one of the most recognizable names and logos on the planet, then absolutely gutting it of all its talent, logo, name brand, and losing pretty much every single major advertiser you have, and finally changing it to a social network brand that you could have just started yourself for a few million dollars. Just total incompetence.
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Does Elon let you boys post here on company time? Or is one of you an actual Elon alt? 😂
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And then, most recently, fucking over the nft bros who were pretty much one of the last bastions that supported your network you have run into the ground. Bluesky is a vastly superior experience already; hope they go public soon.
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This is something people on the left side of the curve post to make themselves feel like they’re actually on the right
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^^Thats exactly what someone in the middle would say
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“Anyone hating Elon on is literally retarded” -g money, before he edited
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midcurve policing
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“Elon is the greatest!” -Elon fanboys.
“Okay here’s a list of objectively stupid shit he’s done”
“You’re just stupid! Nuh uh! Elon is the best!”
“Again, here’s a list of incredibly stupid things he’s done that are not up for debate”
“You’re retarded!”
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If he’s so great, please explain why every time he’s left to his own devices without adult supervision he eats shit. Hell, his own kids have disowned him because he has the emotional maturity of a teaspoon, and throws a temper tantrum every time anyone who’s *actually* intelligent challenges him
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Hence:
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I never once said he was great, but please show me where I said this
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Oh and then there was that guy he tried to remote fire last year only to realize he was about to have to pay out HANDSOMELY, and ended up having to beg the guy to stay.
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He’s the absolute epitome of a spoiled rich brat who throws a tantrum when he doesn’t get his way, and no life experience has ever checked him hard enough for him to learn better
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What did he have for breakfast yesterday because its obvious you pay attention to everything about him
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The fact that so many stamps kids admire him show how they feel about blockchain governance
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Yes, sorry mod
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Dropping it
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So how about them numeric assets huh?
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Perhaps we should drop the word ‘numerics’ and instead use just numbers to describe assets identified in abstraction via numbers
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I personally like calling them numerica as a catch all because there are so many early works and unique pieces that for the better part of a decade fell into a larger category. Thats what Stamps became a part of.
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How about the token formally known as numeric assets 🪯
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Hey y'all I just published an article to help with Freewallet users to understand how to correctly set their fees.
The article includes some awesome information about using Electrum wallet and Blockchain explorer data to interpret what fee to use.
Let me know what you guys think!
Always open to feedback and grammar mistakes I may not have seen ❤️
https://medium.com/@davesta.xcp/understanding-btc-fees-and-utxos-when-using-counterparty-ae22f40b642aUnderstanding BTC fees and UTXO’s when using CounterpartyBitcoin transaction fees (sometimes abbreviated to ‘BTC tx fees’) allow users to prioritize their transactions over other users to be…
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FYI... I'm gonna leave the channel here for 24 hours... I am owner, I don't want to be, I can't transfer ownership to adam, so tried to leave and come back (hoping I was just normal user, and not owner)... but, seems I am still owner... so, leaving here for 24 hours, to see if telegram updates to show no owner for channel, just admins.... I'll be back in 24 hours to see if I am still owner just by being in the room... but, dont want anyone to think i'm rage quitting or anything, just trying to transfer Ownership to Adam, or no longer show as "owner" here 🙂
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New release
https://github.com/blocklack-team/counterpartydb -
server I wrote Rust to make queries to the counterparty database
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going to check this out, thank you !
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https://blocklack.com/counter-party/
We are executing a proposal to make counterpartydb more attractive to other devs, proposing to create tools in other languages
Also to improve the protocol increasing the performance by implementing a clean architecture..
Any comment, opinion, is welcomed..Counter Party - BLOCKLACK.comCounterParty Proposal for Enhancing and Streamlining the Counterparty Protocol and Architecture Start Now BITCOIN Blocklack® is a company based in Barcelona, with more than 11 years of expertise in IT,...
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retrieve first 1M issuances in 3.5 seconds wow 168 MB
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Good evening.
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fragment . com
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He didn't. He has made it much better for all the people and not just a particular group. There's freedom of speech there , now.
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And, I don't like to get into these counterparty arguments but you seem to be going on spewing the exact same lines which the "elon haters who have no idea how he built his companies" keep spewing on twitter.
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yea when Elon started FUDing corn in 2021, he showed he didn’t know shit about it
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I know stamps people don’t do so good with letters, but
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Reminder that this is Counterparty chat, not Elon chat
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It seems some 20-30 ppl need something to rage on whether that be Numericals fees -No fees or Elon yes/no, that's why commented. It would really be nice if all the warring members just take a chill pill for some time and let this space be easier for others to breathe in.
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Can rage on this too now. But am out of these childish convos . Have a nice day
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I would like to see some documentation of subassets that isn't just the original proposal; its tough to find examples of people using them in practice, or of discussions about their limitations
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Do subassets have all the properties of a regular asset? Can someone own a subasset without owning the main asset?
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a google search doesn't quickly reveal the answers to these questions. For example, if MAIN exists, and MAIN::SUB1 exists, can someone who doesn't own a MAIN own a MAIN::SUB1? Or is ownership of those exclusively limited to people who already own a MAIN? I'd assume so, but haven't seen it explicitly stated anywhere.
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Also, is this still true? WAT
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If you create a dispenser from an address you use it can cause unexpected dispenses? How.... is that possible with deterministic code? Is it a bug that isn't understood or....?
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The example there explains the warning ... if you commonly use the address with dispenser.. and someone sends u btc or you withdraw btc to it (equal to or above dispenser price) then the asset will get dispensed (or multiples of it)..
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its by design
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So in addition to sending the assets to a proxy address, one should also first transfer the assets to a separate address to begin with before deploying them on a dispenser. For example, ADDRESS1 creates TOKEN. It has other tokens and transacts regularly. Before dispensing, it should transfer TOKEN to ADDRESS2, before creating a dispenser using ADDRESS2 which sends TOKEN to PROXYADDRESS?
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Is that right
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No, you can set it up at a new address in the same tx. No sends or transfers are needed.
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Anyone can own any asset, no requirement to own main to make it possible to own sub.
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You can transfer ownership of subassets in the same way you can with assets or numerics.
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We played around with this on dogeparty so it should work the same way on cp.
https://dogeparty.xchain.io/asset/UNOBTAINIUM
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Updated - 5347 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://xchain.io/tx/43c8bdca155715bc5c5ffc3d96b2535a58a9923af6f6ad313f2795b1291a0e17 -- 0.00013999 -- 620 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/ffd321dadb9acc7a98af8b38733422dcfba90a5c0d58d7b53d3a6355381ac18d -- 0.00016000 -- 100 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/34fc4ad9adab7af176974828bfaecc2f71bdec9871cc02919333f145a4617bbc -- 0.00017420 -- 365 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/3e01d3d8f3876a9e087b922d47591d301e7aab35246679a3f897304661f4882f -- 0.00017900 -- 1000 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/6f1a857a0fd0a40ad4b324cfdeb9455f53ecadba86df621e6f94d2298566f97c -- 0.00018950 -- 500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/8f9a332d384d6b234352bb38f81e5cd1da0570d331b24dc53cd47c2b7631b0a6 -- 0.00020000 -- 194 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/28e80b51b31beeb5b0e38d27969b23e8cf5b603d6ecd0618ba64e64e36bcbb5c -- 0.00024500 -- 500 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/3675e22e1253e432f3257b282c1724a29c71cdda79b003fc3d746d9a582392b5 -- 0.00025999 -- 2068 XCP
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Pythagoras did say “Number is the ruler of forms and ideas and the cause of gods and demons.”
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Torrent with Counterparty images from xchain, imgur, easyasset etc.
It is important for preserving the "art layer" on top of Counterparty.
Please seed the torrent if you have 37 GB to spare:
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FYI... back... still not able to transfer channel ownership to @teysol ... I enabled 2FA on my account, and I SHOULD be able to transfer channel ownership to adam in another week hopefully... according to this article, it can take up to 7 days before the "Transfer Ownership" option appears after enabling 2FA https://www.fonearena.com/blog/311787/how-to-transfer-channel-or-group-ownership-in-telegram.html/ampHow to transfer channel or group ownership in Telegram
As we all know by now, Telegram is a messaging app works similarly to WhatsApp, Signal, and Facebook Messenger. Founded by brothers Nikolai and Pavel Durov, people behind Russian social network VK, this messaging platform comes equipped with an array of innovative and useful features.
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Since I know that crypto happens on Twitter, I guess this constitutes an announcement that the test suite is passing lol https://twitter.com/agkrellenstein/status/1747284853358297194Adam Krellenstein (@agkrellenstein) on X
@CounterpartyXCP codebase is in need of some serious TLC. just got the test suite passing for the first time in half a decade! updated all dependencies and almost ready to start tackling performance optimization 🏎️
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Something I have been wanting for many years.... nice work @teysol and core devs 🙂
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How do I hang transaction orders in my wallet now?
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Counterparty taking on Ethereum again as the smart contract platform of choice :)? Back to the roots
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check out the PR from Ouziel (original Counterparty dev). His productivity is nuts: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/1322[WIP] Python 3.11 + Hatch + Latest version for all dependencies + Fix tests by ouziel-slama · Pull Request #1322 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib
Eventually pyproject.toml will completely replace setup.py. It is already usable with hatch: $ hatch run pytest counterpartylib/test/ --skiptestbook=all
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Honestly, if you just want to release a semi-fungible asset without punching the air out of frustration it might be the best way to go. I'm over here learning the basics of an ERC-1155 contract and it's so obnoxious what you need to do just to issue your own semi-fungible token on Ethereum. Essentially you have to reinvent the wheel. Nevertheless, diligently learning solana
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But if anyone can own a subasset, and it is its own independent asset... why would someone make it a subasset to begin with?
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If subassets have nothing to do with the parent asset.... what is their use case other than having a neat looking tag attached to them??
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right, i forget that xcp uses those words in a special way
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let me rephrase
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Think of it like this:
Artist X creates BANANA
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you dont need to possess BANANA to possess BANANA.PEELED
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but they tie together as part of a larger collection
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Then why shouldn't BANANA.PEELED just be it's own asset entirely?
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Just for aesthetics I suppose? There doesn't seem to be any functional difference.
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it is - it is a named numeric
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because it doesnt have to be
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It is a unique asset
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I guess if you were trying to get around XCP name limit lengths it could be useful.
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it is great for that
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Yes, but there's no functional difference between BANANA.PEELED and BANANAPEELED. That's what I was asking - thanks for the answer
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Which is funny because those are almost reversed from ethereum's definitions
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but yes - I have to remember that owner means you have powers to adjust shit, like descriptions ad infinim
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Right, well that would be quite silly if you could. Thanks for the clarification.
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Sorry for any confusion, looks like everyone understands exactly the concept of what I said in the face of unique phrasing based on the counterparty terminology
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My favorite thing about xchain is that if you click through the pages of holders of an asset too quickly you get identified as a DDOS and blocked for 24 hours 😭
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🤷♀️it's a free service.
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I know, imagine if they charged to block you
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... yes, that would be weird.
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Creator v. Holder.
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It's what lead the ninja team to engineer royalties
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Correct. If the service does not forward with it. Then....
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Comes down to dyor and knowing who or what you interact with
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Yup UI...but what about the protocol...
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This makes sense.
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Noticed ninja makes users aware of ownership when it comes to minting and participating on launchpad
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It's a good notice to creators to understand what a minting service or launchpad implies.
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Some minting can be done self Custody. Others may require an escorw
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I mean unless the wallet is built to mint/create directly....
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A friend wants to inscribe the image of KEKSBASILISK onto the bitcoin blockchain.... to be honest I'm pretty sure that's a pipe dream. The png is like 474kb, which would likely cost... 😆 an insane amount to put on the bitcoin blockchain. Am I right about that?
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I'm pretty sure you're talking minimum tens of thousands of dollars to inscribe half a megabyte - someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yeah each wallet is built to function as its creator wishes, some do one thing, some can do another thing .. RBF seems to be available if you know how to use it but not included by default in most popular wallet
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I like my tokens gender fluid
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Now ur just typing to make sure ur keyboard works...
I'm convinced of it -
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@katiecharm walks into a church...
"Hey everybody... longtime Jesus fan.. loving the lord... but what about a book where the devil is the good guy"
Church goers: "uuuh.... nah... thats Satanism... I mean.. we're pretty accepting here... but you might want to go start the church of Satan or something"
Karen: "...satan... naaah u are being short sighted... this is how everyone can win... I love god... but the devil is for everybody... so what if??... if like we SIN? Then we don't get the kingdom of heaven??... pretty fucking eletist man. You guys are just hodling bibles and we need a new system... so like Christianity but with the devil"
Church goers: "...uh...yeah lady... thats satanism... wrong audience... but go start one if you want it so bad"
Big Mad Karen "NO.. YOU DONT GET IT... i dont want to 'START ONE'.. and stop being rude... i want this thing to work they way i say it should... THATS IT.... I want to speak to the manager of the blockchain.. GET HIM OUT HERE"
(Joe locks his office door and turns the lights out)
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Reminder: this is the Counterparty chat, not the Katie Charm fanfiction club.
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perfect opportunity to turn it into a subasset so we can chat about it
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When people say getting rid of stamps would be a "contentious change", please keep in mind the half of the community that would be removed - the ones who's entire purpose seems to be disrupting and making useless noise.
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you might want to look at github and reconsider that statement.
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A bunch of talented developers are contributing to Counterparty protocol and application layer because of Stamps.
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Not all work that is productive make number go up
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@reinamora_137 idk what other stamps folks are in the chat and I know this isn't your responsibility but it may be illustrative to point to some of the work you guys are doing.
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So they aren't "making number go up", which isn't really possible anyway. I've long given up hope that XCP will be worth anything, so that dove has flown. And I don't see any new or planned features of counterparty. Yes, do please elaborate on what stamps are bringing to the table besides GPT-2 generated fan fiction about me.
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The information is publicly available. I've asked a stamp dev to weigh in but he's certainly not obligated to.
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Other then the Explorers? Wallets? Index? Launchpad? Lol ummm.. theories.
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Ninja team has dropped 4 products.
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Oh, so they're making content for their stamps. Okay, got it. Nothing to improve counterparty though, especially since the chain is on life support. Is Adam a stamper? He's the only one doing actual code base work, right?
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blah blah blah wen moon @NorthrnSatosh
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Stampverse.io ia getting some love
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Xcp.dev should be done any time
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you should really take a step back at this point
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They are optimizing the code
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And contributing to such discussions of languages and onbaording devs
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If it's back end stuff..
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making counterparty work better might have nothing to do with the token, you can accept that, right?
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Others are src20 index optimization
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they're also making valuable contributions to the protocol but they don't do jpegs the way I personally like so whatevs
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Which is still like a Frankenstein offspring lol
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"making counterparty better" has to be more than pumping your own arbitrary bags. Me making a website to my pepe cards isn't making counterparty better.
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Lots of index work
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When dex 👀👀
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Wen psbt?
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Wen swaps?
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has existed literally since day one 😁\
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Of others
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I thought counterparty was eternal and didn't need a blockchain or any back end? At least this is what stamps people have claimed. Explain to an average crayon connoisseur like me what back end work you mean?
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Which included numerics.
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Also yeah, all DEX seems down? Or that might just be me.
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It seems impossible to list anything on free wallet currently or interact with the dex at all.
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the dex doesn't go down... it's on the blockchain.
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How does one access the XCP DEX these days
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one can access it the same way one always could: running a node. other people can weigh in on more user-friendly ways.
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Part 2.
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So no one actually knows how to access the XCP dex these days - it's lacking a core feature. But don't worry, stamps people are working on stamps websites; they're doing the important stuff.
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Freewallet still has access to dex
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Just not numerics
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I know it's my fault for responding to someone who clearly isn't interested in answers, but good grief!
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Solution maybe soon? Supposedly never know
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I am interested in answers; I'm even prepared to change my position on stamps entirely if proven wrong and that stamps are good for counterparty. But based on their community's behavior thus far, and disrespect at the most prominent maintainer of XCP for the better part of the last decade, I'm doubting that's in the cards. We'll see though.
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I'm going to take the initiative, and to make counterparty better, I will stop responding to people that have an incorrect view on things.
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So anyway, before stamps people co-opted the chat into fanficiton about me, and more shallow shilling about how great stamps are, I had a question.
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A friend wants to inscribe the image of KEKSBASILISK onto the bitcoin blockchain.... to be honest I'm pretty sure that's a pipe dream. The png is like 474kb, which would likely cost... 😆 an insane amount to put on the bitcoin blockchain. Am I right about that?
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I'm pretty sure you're talking minimum tens of thousands of dollars to inscribe half a megabyte - someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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this is actually hard but I will do it
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Can you just go away lol
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Yes this is StampChain devs
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Maybe a bit of CounterParty devs also
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This theory has been discussed, and methods of engineering considered
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See, if ordinals and xcp assets can coexist under a unified umbrella, now that *is* useful.
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We don't use term Ordinals
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Prunable
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Counterparty on MagicEden sounds great to me
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I do not understand why you don't want to use that term when everyone uses that term.
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You never know. Devs are well aware.
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Stamps are not ordinals
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Ordinals are Inscriptions
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Stamps are stamps.
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Yes, ordinals are better. Stamps are a stripped down version of them, as I understand.
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Stamps spend ordinals
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stamps are more permanent and fair to the network
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they pay their whole cost
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ordinals have the segwit discount
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You can't accidently spend a stamp either
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How can they be more permanent than literally inscribing data on to the blockchain. You are making no sense.
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Oh, I see
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segwit data is not "on the blockchain" technically
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ooof I forgot about the segwit discount. are people still salty over it?
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Inscribing witness data
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XCP has been very rewarding to active members. I have snagged so many good deals on the dex by having a bag.
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Ewww, ordinals live in actual satoshis I suppose. I did not know that.
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Luke maybe jk jk
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Like overwriting an encrypted portion of a hard drive.
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I think after stamps anybody who could dislike segwit discount appreciate it more
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He said $salty
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Lol
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We should focus, this isnt the Ordinals Chat, its the Counterparty Chat
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Time to talk about stamps then
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Kathie, time to learn
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No thanks, I have actual important work to do on my own assets. Good luck with your whatsitbobbits.
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🤣🤣🤣
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They use different storage methods
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I was gonna explain the difference between them with all the good faith
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Sad to see you go, was being interesting
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I will listen to up to 500 words with good faith.
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Please continue
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Depends which stamp
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I mean as a holder, not as a creator
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STAMPs are stored using multisig transactions, in the UTXO set (meaning they need to be stored across all nodes, cause they "contain bitcoin balances")
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That's what I don't understand; the UTXO gets pruned and deleted regularly, does it not?
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476 to go
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not the UTXO set
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I disagree... i think we should/could change it... its SO SHORTSIGHTED to not make it the Katie fanfic chat.
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do emojis count?
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Naw
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They count 2x
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Unicode and all
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Maybe in bizzaro world
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Maybe your attention span runs in BASE512, mine barely holds 26 letters
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My attention is based for sure
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The Boys Are Back In Town
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Jam out to this.
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They already call it boomer chain; let's not encourage them
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Nah, lots of young blood of entered.
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Different perspective to development and adoption.
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I think "stamps people" would take issue with me being labeled as a them
Ur bad at arguing...
Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a "secret stamper"
You might want to take a few days off this. Go for a walk... pick some boysenberries. Try some YouTube recipes.
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Kathie I have made around 800 STAMPs, hope you can forgive me one day
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You heard it here. Pepe.wtf creator creates stamps...
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Lol
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I think a lot of people don't know how difficult it is to get a dev culture around a project like Counterparty - no funding and no premine. Before Ethereum almost all dev talent was focused on Bitcoin. I'm super thankful that there's a healthy dev culture around Counterparty and appreciate everyone who's a part of it!
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I see what u did there...
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Voted! Congratulations to all! Great job
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named, sub, and numeric assets are all counterparty assets. we should really try to stop using language that isolates the stamp community. "stamp" infrastructure is counterparty infrastructure i would imagine. we're all in this together regardless of your assets having numbers or letters
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numeric assets are freeloaders def not the same
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I gave up explaining 🙂 People are building feverishly is all I know. Super amazing to see after coming to a relative ghost town on the CP dev side in March to just play around and work on some python skills for Mikes little side project. I think most of the stamps folks would very much prefer not to be involved with this chat lol. But yeah stamps users are counterparty users. Just using new/different tooling to interact with it.
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Thinking about it if XCP fees are implemented on numbers, and stamps community decides to fork, then we can remove the fees for named assets as well and really start to utilize their full potential. Fork.Mania
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oof please not this again....
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hehe gmoney always gets me going
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the main point is this is bringing the CP/Stamps dev community closer
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instead of us having to build psbt support on our own for SRC - we can collaborate and build this functionality into counterparty and win together.
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CP/Stamps dev community is a distinction without a difference. It's. The. Same. Protocol.
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If we play by their rules
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no, that isn't how consensus systems work.
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none of us have commit access to the code at least so we are playing by CP rules
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Fees, fork, heard it again and again
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fork is ded
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'their rules' are a metaprotocol on top of Counterparty. If anything, they're playing by 'our' rules.
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and now instead of being in fear of potential breaking changes happening upstream without our input... we are being heard and our contributions validated, which has a positive effect on building and growing together.
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yep, and it seems the stamps dev ecosystem is itself pretty decentralized, which is even better! makes things less fragile.
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good book - Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder
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After all the messages I been reading it´s has become pretty clear That there are two kind of CP users, those who wants to burn xcp to exit CP. So they are not interested in anything else than burning XCP.
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And those who want the be for a long time in CP ecosystem and want to build the infra, tools, incentives for the whole protocol.
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looks like Mike In Space voted too kek
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Are we still going.. is like big brother. Probably getting dwindling viewers also
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That's a FreeWallet-specific issue - I would recommend to ask about it in the following group:
https://t.me/freewallet_ioFreewallet.io ChatThis is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer
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The more I think about it the more no I am
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It’s not that I mind, I just think adding them won’t be better for counter party economy
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Aka I doubt anyone will use them, and I personally would much prefer to keep the economy unified
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leonidas is my inspiration
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this is super interesting - allowing holders of an asset (with asset owner approval) for holders to create subassets
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There's some good material in those forums
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Yh shows there were "discussions" "recommendations" "dynamic fee model" some history there backing up the claims that numerics were for "new users"
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Old good times
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Fee on Numeric Assets
I suggest adding a 0.01 XCP fee on every issuance (initial and subsequents issuances alike). Also, invalid issuances should be ignored and no longer be stored in the DB. I am against the planned 0.25 XCP fee on numeric assets. Why fee on every issuance From my understanding, the problem lies with the issuances table. Many use cases, like data storage, should move to broadcasts. To encourage this, a fee must be applied to every issuance, not just the first one. Otherwise you can issue an asset...
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ever wonder why this stayed drafted and not accepted?
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When cage match?
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1 month? Lol
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cage match at block 696969420
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Xcp is a flawed protocol to begin with. All assets should be numbered assets and names should be registrable for xcp for a limited number of blocks. It’s insane that name squatters spent fifty cents 8 years ago on premium names, then ceased to exist and those names are lost forever
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this is the only way. Space Mike either puts up or shuts up.
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you cant have them... get over it
- 17 January 2024 (54 messages)
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In Bitcoin, way less expensive today
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*FINK: NEXT STEP WILL BE TOKENIZATION OF FINANCIAL ASSETS
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Should we bet on the cage match at Polymarket?
https://polymarket.com/event/will-zuck-ko-musk?tid=1705453712325Polymarket | Will Zuck KO Musk?Polymarket | This is a market on whether Mark Zuckerberg will win the first scheduled bout with Elon Musk by KO/TKO. This market will resolve to “Yes” if Mark Zuckerberg wins the first scheduled b...
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yes 0.1xcp | no 0.1 xcp
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Yes, we need betting on CP using XCP.
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Are you saying that the original devs that are back now were / are involved with Q? Or they were just using the platform?
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They are q
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Do they know that?
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I’d hope so
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Watching Counterparty official chat turn into Russian troll farm controlled /r/conspiracy in real time
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Me representing xcp and the frogs last month
https://x.com/GMONEYPEPE/status/1733151132418208255?s=20GMONEY🧢₿⚡️🍊🐸💊 (@GMONEYPEPE) on XMy Panel at Unconfiscatable 2023 - Bitcoin 2nd Layer Utility or Nuance with @surferjimw @danheld @jb55 @giacomozucco @ToneVays @unconfiscatable #Bitcoin
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Wat?!!
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You big time G!
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It all makes sense now
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I break it down here
https://pappyg45.substack.com/p/nfts-the-end-of-wall-streetNFT's = THE END OF WALL STREETRight Click Save bro! No really check this out...
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I read this and honestly don’t follow some of it but the game of Trump card with the 17’s is a very odd coincidence.
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anyone here know why dex-trade suspended deposit and withdraw of XCP ?
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They're a little 'special'... They often lock deposits and withdrawals for weeks at a time, with no notice and no explanation. TBH I would just avoid them!
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I think only J-Dog might possibly have more info
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okay ,thanks bro
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anyone else has issues broadcasting transactions? was working ok maybe 5-6 hours ago but since a couple hours , got issues sending XCP assets
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The Wojak Way collection is likely to close forever by the end of 2024
This is a great opportunity for any new artists to join one of XCP’s more recent curated collections - please tag some artists you’d like to see make a Wojak/XCP art piece.
https://fxtwitter.com/thewojakway/status/1747319117516845563?s=46&t=g5V-s_ov716CRjhF5oXpWgThe Wojak Way (@TheWojakWay)We have updated the submission tutorial for new artists🎉 Tag an artist you want to see in The Wojak Way. We will sponsor 10 new successful Wojak Way artists with “WOJAKS” destroy. http://thewojakway.com/submit.php
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Such a nice directory, you really put a lot in it.🙏
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hey guys
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I’ll ask
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Dex-trade.com took deposits/withdraws down because they, like many other in the space, rely on the XChain.io APIs to pull all of their data (they should be pulling from counterparty-lib directly instead, as the docs indicate).... They saw xchain.io APIs go down, their balance queries started to fail, they turned things off (without notifying me)..... I have spoken with them, explained xchain.io APIs are back up, and that they should use counterparty-lib directly to get balance info.... and they have said they will begin the process of re-enabling withdraws and deposits
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also requested tha they add @teysol to the back-room dex-trade.com chat.... so that he can work with them directly on any issues in the future..... I believe our "market making" services are paid up until March 1st... after that, community will need to decide to pay for another 3 months of the service (around $300/mo).... or to stop paying for the service... either way, its up to the community and its leaders now what to do with dex-trade.com exchange listing 🙂
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Go to Namecoin then... imagine Rare Pepes existing on such a protocol
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NEW: USA🇺🇸 #Bitcoin miners in Texas have switched off their machines to secure energy for the state amid "extreme cold weather".
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who the hell is buying all of it?
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Someone that thinks all will become bored yaught club 😆
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yeah that ship has sailed, would need the fed funds rate to be back near zero again for that to happen
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@teysol your handle is not @ Adam lol. it's @agkrellenstein. and you should link to twitter for both yourself and Counterparty LOL
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thanks Q.
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autocorrect!
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Somebody should tell the Tesla owners to stop charging their EVs.
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Valid point
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Are the servers ever coming back up on XChain? So we can transact?
- 18 January 2024 (38 messages)
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0.72% of the way back to having numerics back on xchain... to answer your question.
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1 ₿ is cheap for chyyyyyna
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For those still not understanding why Tokenization is needed on #Bitcoin...
https://x.com/xWEEVERx/status/1747717871541846069?s=20Weever (@xWEEVERx) on X@denniskneale Securities Lending is the #1 revenue stream in our financial markets. Baked-in corruption. Just ask @PatrickByrne
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Careful with this message @adam and friends. The autogenerated telegram counterparty link seems to link to a scam channel.
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Tell him to call me.
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Hello!
please reduce your spread -
dex-trade.com requesting that we reduce our spread or else trading will stop on the volume trade bot... dunno if community wants / needs dex-trade.com anymore... so just passing off the messages from the backchannel here..... eventually @teysol will join the backchannel room n he can handle working with dex-trade.com going forward... til then, just relaying messages from dex-trade.com... like this one... reduce our spread 🤷️️️️️️
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Thank you for the heads up on this oversight... was in a hurry to get this page up so just copied links and images... you are correct, the "Counterparty" logo and link still pointed to coindaddy.io.... I have updated the logo and link to point to the official counterparty.io site.... was an oversight due to being rushed, not intentional... thx for pointing it out, should be fixed now 🙂
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help if possible please.. i can not find my dispensers, ones currently have setup. I go to address actions and change address but not found, is there a refresh?
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Did you try pasting the address in the search?
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yeah a few times but no results
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just tries again an no addresses found
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no didnt do that, i will try
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P2PKH (normal) would that be right?
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GMONEY🧢₿⚡️🍊🐸💊 (@GMONEYPEPE) on X
@PatrickByrne But you own the patent on the only architecture allowed and approved by FINRA? Seems like you snuck one in and nobody realizes this yet???
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thanks figured out.. it was add new address...
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if everything gets tokenized,stocks,real estate,commodities,bypassing third party which is good,but the value of the token is only what the asset value is,how does one capitalize on a certain token?
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if all will be on btc network,i guess bitcoin would go up so hold btc is that the plan?
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is xchain back to normal yet,asking for a friend?
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No A assets, beside that, yes
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the transactions have sure slowed down,almost to standstill
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I think because most of us are use to spending $0.50 to send an asset, not $7
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yeah maybe
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i did a few small trasactions yesterday,between some of my own addresses,the btc showed up in the adresses when sent now today it looks like it all went back to before
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would the fee amount fluctuating so quickly have an affect on transactions?
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higher fee sends get mined first, how long they’ve been in the mempool makes no difference
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Anyone know the reason for the high xcp market value on free wallet iOS
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last transaction price on an xcp dispenser i believe
- 19 January 2024 (197 messages)
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On-chain NFTs are getting pumped by Trump now:
https://x.com/CollectTrump/status/1748054959843622941?s=20CollectTrumpCards (@CollectTrump) on XTRUMP DIGITAL TRADING CARDS on BITCOIN ORDINALS 🟧 The FIRST EVER Trump Trading Cards on Bitcoin. Read this thread ⬇️
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How long before this trickles down to CP, Stamps, XCP, etc.........
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Older deep dig re trump/bitcoin/pepe/cp numerology:
https://badlands.substack.com/p/the-covfefe-digThe COVFEFE DigDeath of the Petrodollar
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The numerology is pretty esoteric, but with so many people digging into these areas after the covid scam, there may be a growing number of people that can appreciate it.
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Too bad Trump still won't apologize for the poison shots (he must have known).
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Would you support a Presidential election decision where 2.2% of the population turned out?
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Imagine if bitcoin could experience a 2.2% attack
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Bottom line is its not a meaningful sample to pass ANY judgement on and I doubt a bunch of mail in ballots will hit in the next 9 days
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the non-voting populace has won every election except 2020
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Joe Biden got 81 million votes bro
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Slacker :: (1991)
An awesome first film about interesting people having interactions. I do not own this film, please contact me if you would like to see it removed.
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meritocracy means no retards kek
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I imagine the the first 1% of XCP supply to vote was @jdogresorg ?
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Not saying that's right or wrong, just observing that @jdogresorg set up the poll, then presumably voted his 1% stake?
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Anyway...
We've been busy busy busy at @WTHAuctionHouse...
Just dropping in with some news, the first WTH auction to feature over $1.1M floor value of assets in quite some time.
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Still need to get myself a TEST
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Is there a new offical dev fund address, I have 150$ for it
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Oh you mean when Trump got on tv and advised the nation to literally drink bleach? The stupidity of the qanon crowd will never cease to amaze me. Blockchains work. Vaccines work. Science works. Have had 5x vaccines now - along with the many many other vaccines in my life. they’re safe, get over your Russian psyop conspiracy theories ffs
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God if getting rid of stamps also gets rid of these Russian qanon nutters then PLEASE. New motivation unlocked
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Stupidconspiracy dot uselessblog / Russian fan fiction dot html
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Yes if I were suffering from rampant brain fog caused by long covid, I’d also perhaps not understand why abusing a protocol with my stamp spam and pissing off the same maintainers who kept the protocol alive the last seven years was a bad idea.
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Please avoid personal attacks.
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Sorry, vaccine conspiracies are stupid. Please leave them out of this channel. Trump / Qanon conspiracies are stupid. Please leave them out of this channel. No personal attack implied.
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I’m glad you made this clear for the next time the stamps crowd decides to write their next riveting piece of fanfiction about me
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I'm not 'making anything clear'. I made a request.
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You’re a mod. You don’t make requests. You make things clear. I’m a normal user, I’m the one who makes requests.
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For example, request: let’s chill with the personal insults because they spam up the channel and do not contribute to the conversation.