- 10 January 2024 (609 messages)
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I think XCP was a nice hobbyist venture but it is time to grow up at this point and stamps is that answer or at least the best answer in the last half decade to (attempt to) going mainstream -
By burning? Mmmkkk -
Stamps is actually the “hard fork” via free numerics
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Free numerics attempting to neuter the utility for xcp
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Stamps are lifting heavily in the CounterParty space. -
Game theory
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Your literally rejecting the growth of development
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Nah
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I’m rejecting fake growth
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100,000 assets in a year -
Major wallets adoption is far from fake growth
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Metcalfes law. Your network attempting to out value ours
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Slow growth is essential to decentralization
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To who's timeline
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Fake growth my ass. You think OKX is fake? They even put me in their video!
https://x.com/mikeinspace/status/1744696450339033462?s=20Mike In Space (@mikeinspace) on XHAHAHAHAHAHA
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This is a coup via free numerics
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Game theory
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your network our network? whose house
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They have full blown trade campaigns for StampChain
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Was not asked for
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They adopted
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Crazy once src20 dropped CounterParty adoption hit....one might take note
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CounterParty has potential and should not hate on growth
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Stamps is going to be just fine. Many explorers like Ninja and OpenStamp are humming along with their own explorers/wallets. What everyone should be worried about is the value of their grails and pepes, which are very much tied to the health of Counterparty.
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We love natural growth
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why are stamps unnatural ?
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To whose timeline....
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Mike been here since 2016 ish .. dont get more grass roots than community members its not like he just appeared
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by the way I have many grails and Pepes. I am not interested in CP turning into a dumpster fire either
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Same i been here since 2016 too - got a nice collection of S1s
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He brought awareness and growth to the space
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Embrace and grow what has arrived
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Astroturf
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The last thing i want to see is cp burnt to the ground.
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Counterparty isn't a dumpster sir
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This is bigger than a fork
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This is a network protocol attack via exploiting free nunerics
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Basic
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Big picture stuff
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how does use = exploit ?
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Abuse
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ok luke
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To 1 person's opinion
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I don’t eat cats tho
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Xcp.dev isn't bothered
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lol.. nope its a bathroom apparently... learn to shit in the toilet no the sink bro🤷️️... but, we past all that. Fork will prolly be off soon... progress being made 👍️️️️ -
Xcp.dev lol
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Next on the agenda is can we all agree not to shorten it ‘CP’ anymore. -
you get xcp buy trading assets for it via the DeX or purchashing
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you dont get it for free by being a asset hodlr
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ready for fees to go through the roof ? -
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xcp.dev/wallet
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xcp.ninja is another wallet but i not used it personally
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github is available, but very minimal traffic through there -
Dispensers do away with the need for a CeX - you can both buy and sell XCP using them
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XCP was on CeX and it was still pennies
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yeah thats where i first got some as no dispensers back then
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dispensers are much better tech
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an xcp dispenser uses bitcoin and xcp at the same time
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you buy XCP with BTC or you sell XCP for BTC
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how is it mroe BTC than XCP ? i dont understand
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Dude xcp is the worst part of counterparty, it makes almost zero sense
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its the best DeX token
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you cant buy from a dispenser with anything other than bitcoin no matter what token your buying
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one of the reasons XCP exists because bitcoin doesn't recognize counter party assets. to trade assets on the dex you need a native token and that is XCP. now that there are dispensers there is less leaning on the dex
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you can sell any token for btc yes that is how dispensers work
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I just mean focus shouldn’t be on xcp as that is the least appealing part of the whole thing. It was needed at the time but mostly isn’t now and is actually what puts people off the whole thing
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yea the focus for developers should be tech. XCP's future will be written by the free market
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i believe the numeric fee debacle was a push to get others to develop tech. the manner with which it was done may not be the best. but the outcome is what's needed
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Stamps true intention to neuter xcp
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See you want the market to do one thing but the market do what it do. Stop trying to be smarter than the market. All it does is add friction and drive away traffic. If you’re fine with that, cool.
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This is also my worry as well
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This explains everything. Sorry market don’t care.
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i don't think that message stated what i want the market to do. dont put words in my mouth
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how does that work
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Bitcoiners are puritans. They don’t want shitcoins
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genuine question
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did i say otherwise?
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all this is possible because every single xcp was created by burning btc - you know this -
without those people xcp and your stamps wouldnt exist
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No one cares. Sorry, they don’t. And I agree my stamps wouldn’t exist
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I found xcp in 2016 thanks to Theo and saw Stamps appear last year - they are a way to quel the "nfts are just pointers" trope
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stamps are the most robust btc nfts .. i know not all agree but you cant find a more resiliant database than the utxoset
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You aren’t selling to bitcoiners lmao
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its the etherians
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There are different sects
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Even they want the “pure bitcoin” meme otherwise they’d just buy ethscriptions
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Bro your market is degen shitcoiners
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i dont have a market i made my stamps for meeeeee
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Same
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first keyburn stamp was a namde asset - SPENDME
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Its a good target market if your looking for $$$... He is not alone in being interested in this market.
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maybe its because they bitcoiners
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Do it! Start a compelling project and get those degens to pump xcp
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Their entire cover story is pure bitcoin ethos but they selling to degens who don’t really care if cp was used
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hey i dmed you
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Anyone can use the dex.
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People are free to use XCP and the DeX, no one is stopping anyone from using permissionless systems permisionlessly.
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and
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I’ve never dissuaded it and frankly it would be cool if explorers incorporated it
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go make em then
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They wont
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Lol how dare they innovate other markets
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You’re wrong, it might be a resource thing at the moment but there is no Fatwa against using the dex
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We've user stamps on dex also...nothing wrong with it. Works nice
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I've nothing against xcp dex
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Honestly I’d love to see it
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Exactly the response I would expect. We don’t have budget for something we don’t use
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bank roll him
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No need we already have fw & xchain
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careful trading on the dex with that at this time
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Dude I don’t have employees. I can’t tell volunteers what to work on. I will suggest it though
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From my perspective, the shitcoiners are here, and counterparty core devs will need to figure it out going forward, if this is a market they want or not...
my objection to numerics (and reason for the fork) is purely from a technical perspective... spamming txs lags xchain, when xchain lags, people lose funds (dispensers that say open when they are closed, etc), my support costs go up (everyone screams for help, etc), and ACTUAL damage is done, as scamming ensues and real funds are lost... XChain lagging comes at a high cost to the community.
Re-read that, XChain lagging costs come at a HIGH cost to the community... ie, people start losing funds!
Some in the community might choose the narrow view that this is just a problem with xchain parsing, however, that is not true, other projects in the space also have problems with this (see earlier tweet from spells of genesis founder). -
The true issue as I see it here is that the counterparty API can not scale to handle tons of queries like xchain can, so community unfairly relies on xchain as a part of its infastructure.
This issue is actively being worked on by many devs (seeing talk, not code yet, but believe they are making real progress, and support it). -
Is spamming numerics a serious issue, which has been ignored for far too long, that it demanded action (a fork)? From my perspective yes, some may not agree.
Is forking the ledger, putting everyone's money at risk, in a high stakes game of chicken, and burning the entire thing to the ground in the process in the best interest of the community? Absolutely not.
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Exactly why stamps are actually an attack against the token xcp
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Shitcoiners got front ran on named assets
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I think it’s really dumb that the main issue here is that xcp is now actually popular and that’s come with extra costs
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That doesn’t actually mean anything though
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At least u guys are being upfront about your plan now lol
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xcp.dev has not flinched even when BTNS blew up xchain
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A site with just text? Lol
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Its was the same Counterparty
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The value is what’s on the network. Token is irrelevant.
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but network could be having the biggest activity ever (DEX+dispensers) without even touching XCP -
Exactly why we need the numeric fee structure so you don’t cannibalize our ecosystem like a virus
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That’s what they want
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Jeezus -
A bunch of shitcoin junkies lol
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I think your xcp bags may be a lil heavy and it’s effecting your judgement
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Just glad we can flush out true plan and incentives
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Exactly
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Broken window theory
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stop using blockchains wrong
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ok so if 50,000 named assets were made tomorrow and xchain fell over then its cool
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*crickets*
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*tumble weeds*
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If site isn't optimized to handle the volume..it'll continue to crash regardless of fees...
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But provides us with the data we need.
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Ui is simple stuff to correct dev team. But infrastructure comes first.
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Unfalsifiable claim. How do you know it wouldn’t be worth 3 cents right now without Stamps? Ordinals created an existential threat. I saved xcp
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What's does xcp token have to do with development of code...
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Stampchain devs are currently lifting development with zero xcp tokens...
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The thinking is: people will start getting generous when their bag gets pumped
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USD pays for servers and overhead
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Pump my bag and I'll bless you....
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There was no ordinals
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Fork over
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xchain back up in a bit on 9.61.1... no numerics support at all for now, perhaps in future 🤷️️️️️️
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the girft no longer works on meth so you brought the clown show here
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If by clown show you mean active users then yes we been trying to bring them over for years
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if its a grift then it will die out like it did on meth a new shiny shiny will appear and will will still be here
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true
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the rug gets pulled eventually probably better to entangle as many as possible for now kek
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When cp 9.62? -
yeah 75% of em
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dunno... gotta talk to the core devs about what the plans are for their next release...
I know there is a show-stopping bug in CP that I pointed out a few weeks ago.... put up a pull request to fix the issue... having to do with malformed broadcasts... so, hopefully whenever they put out a 9.62.0 release, it includes that critical fix 🤷 -
But, to be clear, I am not a member of the core dev team anymore, and as such, am not able to ACK/NACK and merge changes into the main repo, that power falls solely on the 3 remaining core devs now.
I can no longer participate in determining consensus or what is best for counterparty... I have left that up to the 3 remaining core devs, and I trust their decisions going forward with Counterparty... -
Tho best believe, I'm still here, heavily invested, and gonna do everything (short of a immediately activated hardfork) to guide counterparty in the direction I feel it should go, and I encourage others to do so as well.
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Getting off telegram now... back later
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appreciate what you did for counterparty through the years
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they are in the dev chat but yes some sort of announcement from them on where they stand would be nice
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there are many dev chats - i pushed for an announcement
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i linked you to the exact spot of one's posting about an hour ago -
cant wait for the movie
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did I lose my .1 xcp 😂
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ok, you tell 'em
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you never spent it on Counterparty
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If you made a numeric on .62, it’d be lost, but you’d have you .1 XCP back -
Mike I know for a fact I would have bought all the XCP at 5 cents! -
The stamps crew started with the ethos of Bitcoin only to launch.
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They have some cool ideas regarding named asset creation
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Will there be any numeric support in Free Wallet or still no? @jdogresorg if not I think it would help heal a lot of bad feeling about the past week if innocent newcomers were given a window of time by you like a week or even just a day to send their numerics/stamps out of their free wallets. They made those wallets whilst under the impression that xchain and FreeWallet fully supported Stamps, because you did initially. They shouldn’t be forced to risk their wallet security by entering their free wallet seed phrase into another wallet etc. just because you have changed your mind on Stamps. What do you say? -
i'm guessing that while jdog and xchain can help with numeric support that there's more required for a robust fix, including the explorers and wallets being worked on by others
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(from what i've read) i believe the numerics issue faced by xchain related to scaling / infrastrcutre issues internal to xchain - which might not be jdog's priority to fix
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Just giving a window of time for people to be able to send their stamps out of free wallet to an alternative wallet shouldn’t cause too much of a burden on the infrastructure surely.
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It was free 10,000+ mints that cause the infrastructure to struggle
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i think you can currently send using the stamped.ninja wallet
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Just seems so harsh punishing innocent people who set up a free wallet in good faith
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you dont need to send them, just need a wallet that supports them. Which leather does as well (not sure if you can send from leather yet)
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But you would have to enter your free wallet seed phrase into stamped.ninja wallet, which is terribly security practice. It’s something I never recommend people do. Copying and pasting seed phrases online.
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this is true. but how is that different than sending your assets to the other wallet
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in both cases you're finding a new wallet to trust
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that's the most important
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I know someone who lost a million dollars plus in bitcoin by entering their seed phrase into a different wallet, cos there was a key logger virus watching them do it etc.
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You could use multisend on freewallet to send to a new address the assets u don’t want to expose to other wallets -
yes
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sweep better
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definitely a risk.
but if you're ever going to use a new wallet you're going to get a new seedphrase -
or even create a new freewallet
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(multisend can be a hell of money these days)
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Or JDOG could just give everyone 24 hours or something no? Why is that too much to ask? Feels so vindictive.
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We’re not here to punish newcomers to the chain are we?
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Anyway I’ve asked the question… up to @jdogresorg
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can you clarify - unclear if this is sarcasm or i might just not be understanding.
stamped.ninja seems good or not good or unclear?
(i dont have the ability to verify the code - and have not yet set one up myself) - just know it exists -
definitely named asset stamp support very soon! hopefully within a couple days.
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That’s upto Jdog, for now there are ways around your problem as suggested above, multisend, sweep..
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seems ok.. it's unknown code, and we don't have the ability to check it. Other options coming! okx,leather are the most likely options at this point.
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got it.
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After sweeping he’d still have to use multisend to separate the assets he doesn’t want exposed. Or am I missing something?
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ah yes, definitely, I was counting in case of moving the whole wallet
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probably it's the same solution
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Correct
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Most of the stamps teams are not against a xcp fee, more about 1º the frictions it generates if it´s done in XCP. 2º where is that money going. If minting numerics it´s a fee in btc that goes in a high % to support the ecosystem (bounties, pay infrastructure, rewards to nodes even if this is not possible yet, just ideas) and maybe to get everyone happy a small % to burn xcp then everyone might be happy. But it has to be done step by step once most of us are aligned. The 0.5$ in xcp it´s ridiculous regarding to minting pricing so a fee of 2$ in btc for example could help to solve all the above without creating friction to the end users and still serving xcp holders. Just my two cents after reading >1k messages a day across many chats. -
Honestly I don’t even think you would have to burn it.
But buy it and stockpile it. -
Pay bounties with it, etc…
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Those are the src20 (out of counterparty already)
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Is this a troll
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For checking stamps art only you can also check https://www.rarestamp.xyz/ and https://stamped.ninja/
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Click the dropdown bar and click classic
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they index we post on bitcoin blockchain ser
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I even put those nasty pixel spam things in here -> https://pepe.wtf/collection/stamps
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what am i looking at here?
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an src20 token, UTXO fungible tokens using the src20 standar
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that's a mint transaction
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never seen a dude so worried about 1 lame stamp thats worth nothing lol
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utxo art
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nope, but due to the price pixel art is the most used
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where is the fork? that svg shit is dopeasf
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Cryptopunks were 24x24 pixels also, they are also appreciated for the art beyond other things 🤓
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the wallet has a million dollars + of digital assets in it, so I don’t want to copy and paste the seed phrase ok? A broke troll like you just wouldn’t understand the need for proper security
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721 naka gonna be lit
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Viva La Vandal stamps are very cool imo
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Stamp collection: VivaLaStamps, by viva-la-vandal
Search, filter and sort to find any stamp from this collection.
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PS that’s the last reply you’re ever getting out of me… I don’t waste my time on trolls 🧌
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I minted some animated SVGs back then, priced them accordingly to nonsense -> https://minteds.io/Link
Minteds, bitcoin stamped SVG circles
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Some svg too, take into account size limitation (around 6kb) and prohibitive price. These ones costed around 1,5-3k$ each https://www.rarestamp.xyz/collection/eternai/Link
EternAI Rare: The Sacred Chronicles of Bitcoin by Rarestamp.xyz - Witness the mesmerizing fusion of artificial intelligence and the eternal allure of the sacred frog in this remarkable digital art series from the imaginative minds at Rarestamp.xyz. Skillfully optimized for weight and forever etched into the Bitcoin blockchain, each intricately illustrated moment invites you on an extraordinary journey where technology and mysticism unite to create a captivating and unforgettable visual experience.
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art living on UTXOs not in an URL to some server.
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these live in the utxoset ser .. they are practically indestructible and can never be lost ..don't need hosting the list goes on
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most of these are dead urls, some of them recovered in the vaulting on eth....
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Frog memes = fine art
Stamps = spam
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Working on some new branding for Counterparty to help appeal to the current generation.
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shitcoiners are raiding us lol
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It’s not for you or me to say what is and isn’t good art 🖼️
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it's utter nonsense ... saying that as a someone who was there znd saw rarepepe s1 drop and has contributed a little to the stamps
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stamps wash traded by suits and bots gonna dump hard
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No one should get to say what art can and can’t live on counterparty
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astroturfing only lasts so long
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That’s absolutely ridiculous
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there is no 2nd best
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old website... use: https://phockheads.com/Home
Rescued from Namecoin Purgatory to live again on the Bitcoin Blockchain!
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No idea... been mainly focused on Stamps this past year. I think they will see a resurgence given the aura I cast on all my past projects
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Alive here https://xcp.ninja/asset/PHOCKHEADSXCP Ninja, the counterparty reference.Explore a wide range of Counterparty assets through a powerful search engine. Tools such as minting, directories and more.
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I'm not in the buying business. I like to sell NFTs.
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Sorry I thought you where talking of blockheads from 2014 in namecoin. Most of this links to images are dead. Don´t know how this one was stored. But anyway not in UTXOs. Stamps offer an extra layer of permanence at a higher cost, that the market and most digital artists that cares for their art living longer are willing to pay.
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This was my pre-stamps project. Offchain pixel art
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Sorry I confused the project for its predecesor ;)
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I buy plenty of stamps in fact I'm in the Top 10 on the Leaderboard. I buy what I like, not really as an investment.
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Find out who's the best Ninja.
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"art"
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Those are really good but of course art is subjective. There are Pepes like Pepebasquiet that are like works of art I'd hang on my wall. Others, I don't really care for.
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inspired by PEPEBROS
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Ultimate Pepe is pretty good actually
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OGs are to blame for stamps
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I mean it was basically Joe's idea. LOL.
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you made a pepe too
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Yeah, I don't really care for it tbh... lol
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If anybody has any complain, Karen will be happy to write it down and take the complaints to Mike
https://thepixelkarens.com/The Pixel KarensTHEY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MANAGER.
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I cherish it as rpw says to ..for it is truly rare
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One of many explorers. If I'm being honest ours could use some polish, its probably the worst looking one at the moment.
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Thats not real, db is 8gb, not a lot.
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Solving the issue in the DB architecture and that problem is gone, so CP can have more projects and users on top of it.
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J-Dog (@jdogresorg) on X
Counterparty FORKOFF 2024 - core dev chat I am fine with my decision and did what I felt is best for Counterparty's long-term future. History will decide who was right.🤷♂️ https://t.co/M7eb5kVcZB #Counterparty #XCP #XChain #FORKOFF2024 #Transparency
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I can´t speak for them. But float on the db can be solve with the optimization, also Jdog request over years to build new explorers, wallet etc... it´s being working on too. Fee on numerics still for discussion for the reasons I mentioned above.
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here
- 11 January 2024 (1340 messages)
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Well that was a very interesting 48 hours
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You’re a troll. Clearly a bunch of people were involved.
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I don’t think you meant it towards me
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One maintainer is eth vaults guy, after 12 months still can't sell/list my 50 vaults
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You have no idea what you’re talking about
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What will 9.62 look like, fees on numerics or no fees?
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probably have multiple assets in them -
Because they migrated contract, some are now individual projects, but all previous sale history wiped away
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I took that decision too
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Well thanks @jdogresorg whenever I was stuck or had questions you was always there to help all users, good luck to us all
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No that’s not the perception. We have had the two original CP founders talking here, Jdog, Joe, JP, stamps crew, and so on. You just don’t know what you’re talking about or don’t know who’s who.
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But with a name like whatever, I’m not surprised
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Yes
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hear me out: they are working
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maybe give the evolving situation a few days and if they need a PR point of contact they will fill the gap or add someone they trust to share that regular contact
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They’ve posted on Twitter, they posted here, they’ve been posting everywhere
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from the leaked dms, it looks like they have a number of things to accomplish prior to coming into the chat and sharing a rundown and what comes next type disclosure
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excuse me, chat not dms
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If only you knew
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Gotta say - Whatever - is my favorite commenter
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Probably you lol
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You might not comprehend why
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I can do any PR needed. NP -
we use memes as PR frens -
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GM
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I believe you're excluded from the real chats for a reason ser. All the serious discussion is in the dev chats, with the maintainers, founders and devs putting forth solutions - including j-dog occasionally 🙂 This chat is just for trolling and fun ofc. You think we don't love fucking with doge style and gmoney and any other tool that pops up that has no clue what they are talking about irt the actual tech and details? Realistically, not much time to engage with this type of chatter unless you're in the mood to fuck with trollers and post some shit to stir up some fake drama. Especially the last few days. Lots happening with xcp.dev to step up as a full featured explorer, new potential for stamps explorers supporting broader ranges of CP assets (or all) etc, etc, etc. tbh idk how the hell jdog was able to be so active in the chats and also push out loads of work. remember it's all imaginary, esoteric as Joe put it. Extremely fake. I know who you are.
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Keep degening will be here for the keks
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Love his confidence can’t wait to see how this ends. 🤣
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People have been underestimating Stamps since the beginning. I see a lot of motivated devs working to build something robust and successful.
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Wen the bots in suits leave we will be here for the cope
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Who made that claim?
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bots in suits?
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@Whatever do you mean XCP or Counterparty?
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Counterparty is made better by staying relevant and having a growing user-base. I know many feel that isn't important, but I assure you it is.
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i love xcp have loads of it, wen moon
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There is a whole world of Counterparty outside of Stamps. Why should the token die if its being used by all those other projects?
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Parasites
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why are you so threatened
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please mike check dm
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If I were GMONEY with a big bag of Named assets, I sure as hell would want traffic and network effect to pick-up. Namespaces have no value otherwise.
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It existed! In fact Jdog built a really cool directory for it. Then he took it down (his choice).
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we already have named asset support. new features released very soon. Even jdog hinted at reviving tokenstamps.io for the use case.
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Shitcoiners crack me up. You guys only learn through massive pain. Lol
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who is in pain?
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no, thats something else. If you want to add enhanced metadata to your asset
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Enjoying the show
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indeed
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Definitely, I think one of the big challenges with Counterparty is that there is no "standard" so people end up minting in all different ways. Would be nice if an image hash were included and a standardized format, etc..
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Pretty different than Bitcoin-based stocks, huh.. funny how the whims of the market progress -
Oh BTW, in case you haven't seen it yet, this is really freakin cool.. a timeline of all the notable token experiments, projects & development milestones since 2014:
https://rarepepes.com/timeline-xcp/
Tons of info you might find interestingTIMELINE XCP • Rare Pepe NFT and Blockchain Art CollectiblesCounterparty XCP Timeline Research and documentation provided by davesta also on twitter.Make a comment or request a change below. TIMELINE COMMENTS
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Missing FROLIC
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Sounds good. Hope someone builds it
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This was quite an achievement for Counterparty: https://decrypt.co/105263/what-immortalizing-the-curb-your-enthusiasm-theme-means-for-music-nftsWhat Immortalizing the 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' Theme Means for Music NFTs - Decrypt
The token was minted in April. An auction is said to be upcoming. But where exactly does this 1-of-1 fit in the world of music NFTs?
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How long before mention of xcp or the image banned from this chat 🤣
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Resign as Current CIP Custodian by jdogresorg · Pull Request #130 · CounterpartyXCP/cips
I officially resign as Current CIP Custodian.
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Like all things, this is voluntary work on an open protocol. Freewallet mobile doesn't even have a DEX but Stamps web wallets need to support it? Sorry, devs are not my employees, I can't dictate what they work on or release. It would be great if they built in a DEX, I would love that. That's up to them and the resources they have.
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Yes, Joe is a very talented dev and that's what he chose to spend his time working on.
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Scorched earth is the only way fwd see u guys on the other side. Shadilay
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Its a good point. People tend to be more persuasive with their requests when they offer devs some compensation.
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Davesta, he put many hours into it..
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Hello everyone, my free wallet app has been doing this all day, can anyone give any insight? -
It just keeps saying refreshing wallet
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Yes it's offline -
Considering several people pissed off the single guy responsible for the site and xcp repository, not a smart move
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We all hope this
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I have been working on a web based wallet app for 'Satoshi Soldiers' there is full DeX and Dispenser support, but have no plans to support pepecash just XCP
this stuff is a labour of love I am not being paid to do it
this stuff takes time
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how many xcp should one hold to not be considered a heretic? lol
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69.42 bare minimum of course
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yeah that amount should be mandatory just to post here
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your posting links .. post without links or add strategic spaces
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import your privatekey to a btc wallet such as Electrum
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aich tee tea pea doubleu doubleu doubleu dot
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Tool no clue what talking about, I've maintained my position clearly, I like stamps, wish them success.
But I don't believe should be using free numerics, as I've previously stated, if you wanted the full btc play, to be a copy cat version of ordinals, shouldn't have used CP/free numerics to begin with.
I've seen the attitude from you and your clan towards jdog, threatening forks and then cry when one actually happens.
You can't burn me much when you gave a donation, then asked for it back, and was given it back. (Btc donation)
You've managed to worm your position into the new maintainers mindset, so now 10k numeric collections will be the new hip, you will bleed CP dry then move on. -
Hahaha let's all stamp now ffs
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Not totally incorrect
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serving a demand lol
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What do you think of Freeport? you know Joe's free numeric asset app .. is that OK coz no one uses it ?
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For most of a decade I have been calling for changes to XCP to both a.) better incentivize the token and b.) curb abuse and spam. So have many members / those calls have fallen on deaf ears though.
Many of the key issues you’re facing are because XCP has the tokenomics of a one-off curiosity that isn’t designed to survive or be self sustaining. Every time I bring up “hey we should incentivize nodes and the token” I’m met with “well that doesn’t matter because XCP nodes don’t matter and the token doesnt matter”. Well apparently it kind of does matter because you need people to *want* to build and maintain XCP services for it to continue to exist. -
My position doesn't change, free numerics shouldn't be for mass use
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what are they for then ?
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The fact that you’re a core dev with 82 total messages in the entire history of this channel is also troubling. How invested are you into the future success of xcp if you have barely ever said two words here?
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POLL RESULTS
XCP Fee on Numerics?
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55% = Yes, 0.25 XCP
16% = Yes, 0.5 XCP
10% = Yes, Discuss
19% = No
XCP Fee on Numerics (YES/NO)
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81% = YES
19% = No
What Should Fee Be?
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55% = 0.25 XCP
16% = 0.50 XCP
10% = OTHER
Activation Block
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790,000 = Current block
+ 1008 = 144 blocks per day x 7 days
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791,008 = Activation Block
It appears that general consensus is to institute an 0.25 XCP Fee on Numerics at block 791,008.
@hodlencoinfield Agreed? -
look don't touch ?
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There was a vote for numerics to have fee, now people switching up
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I don't really care at this point
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I don't give a shit about the fee but having a bit of the protocol that's not to be used is crazy talk
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Fee wasn't there for named assets to begin with, but if we need that to promote responsible use on named assets, with current events same should apply to numerics
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We are just servicing demand
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This was in May, for all the newcomers
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