- 11 January 2024 (1340 messages)
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not buliding on xcp you are a parasite attached to a host
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They are full supported ser in the new indexer
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devs have already said they arent using the protocol as intended
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xchain down?
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If u wanna say I'm in favour of fee when jdog was active but now jump ship I buy that also
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Shit in the sink and find out
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Which sink? Kitchen or bathroom
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Anyway, where is the notification for for post office coin updates
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Dm
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No sink discrimination, take ur pick
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The analogy isn't a postage stamp. Its an ink blotter stamp as we are "stamping" on the blockchain.
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Not interested, only want to fill my bags with postoffice coin
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Counterparty needs a bidet
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not sure that's true though, we have more CP tools than before and more activity.
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too long... don't think you can do above 5 characters
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it's live
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ohhh
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jk
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they should really throw an error
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I heard this may change
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they do
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Soon postoffice coin
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I heard it too and I don't like it. I've told devs its not a good idea. But hey... I'm not in charge
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I was against emojis too. Should have stuck with letters only like the stock market.
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Opens too many vulnerabilities with all these characters
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Thank you for your answer, I can see why the hars against stamps. Even do I been here not long but there years... I didnt feel that way. I felt that It was a New thing to create on the protocol.
And as I said there IS one way to create art stamps completly away from CP. But Im not that supportive there because I want Stamps to benefit the whole ecosystem. -
Not right now lol, I have the least tooling ever
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lol, we were at Christmas last year staying at my rich sisters house and everyone said that was me
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I can picture that actually
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Hahaha
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I just wanted my green banner... thats all.
I was so close
And now....
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XCP is just a token - ok its Couterparty native token n has special uses - but its just a token ... its Counterparty i love
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its forever deflationary
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is possible idk want to understand
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₿ was sent to provable burn addy in return for xcp token
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yes this part is completely understanded
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this was the address where funds was sent
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Send here xcp for postoffice coin?
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yeah i think so
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send rarepepe here for entrance to valhalla
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If you want you can open some dex for this one for some rarepepes A6524912715479370914
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our dex is down
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Too much shit in the sink
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Happy new year
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just xchain is down ser not the dex
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POLL RESULTS
XCP Fee on Numerics?
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55% = Yes, 0.25 XCP
16% = Yes, 0.5 XCP
10% = Yes, Discuss
19% = No
XCP Fee on Numerics (YES/NO)
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81% = YES
19% = No
What Should Fee Be?
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55% = 0.25 XCP
16% = 0.50 XCP
10% = OTHER
Activation Block
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790,000 = Current block
+ 1008 = 144 blocks per day x 7 days
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791,008 = Activation Block
It appears that general consensus is to institute an 0.25 XCP Fee on Numerics at block 791,008.
@hodlencoinfield Agreed? -
Can you stop posting this again and again
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lol.
how many people participated in the poll?
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id presume a new consensus method and vote for changes to counterparty would be held since a new group of maintainers/developers is now working
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well considering fw is down not sure how we can vote with xcp lol
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did I ever say a vote with xcp in my statement?
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I heard xcp
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I mean postoffice coin
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Is xchain servers down right now or they are running on another net?
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you guys don't have your own carrier pigeons?
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I hab only firearm carrier as a pigeon, but I guess hab to get another one for financial chit chatting
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I know it sucks... its an unfortunate side-effect... IF/WHEN I bring XChain back up, I will do everything within my power to make sure NAMED assets and SUBASSETS appear on xchain... still got the issue of spamming txs causing lagging... so, only way to keep xchain up is to ignore those fucking "FREE" numerics for now... I updated counterparty2mysql to solve this issue (For XChain, Spells of Genesis, and other projects) by a quick hack to ignore all numerics.... IF/WHEN I bring XChain back up, i'll prolly need update this filter a bit to check if the numeric is actually a subasset. https://github.com/jdogresorg/counterparty2mysql/commit/77c6274e05448aae6eec46343baa8f20fe730a95added optional numeric asset filter · jdogresorg/counterparty2mysql@77c6274
PHP script that populates a MySQL database with Counterparty data - added optional numeric asset filter · jdogresorg/counterparty2mysql@77c6274
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Thanks bro stay tough we are with you
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I was talking about stamps not xchain 👍
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got it... muh bad 🤷️️️️️️
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Emblem Vault (@EmblemVault) on X
https://t.co/al4nZOnlnS
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What is current state of xchain and freewallet, is it usable for sending NAMED assets and btc? @jdogresorg
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It’s not just a token, it’s a token that even the founders had to pay their fair share to be included.
The founders and everyone else burning their own Bitcoin so everyone was treated equally.
It’s the epitome of what Bitcoin and blockchain was to stand for. Fair and equal to everyone. -
Bro... they don't care.
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An immaculate conception via sacrifice that can never be replicated
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Only now, please send xcp for postoffice coin
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OK it's a special token .. I love it
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love or in love
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Makes love
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And creates baby postoffice coins
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it's all coming together
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I not even minted a sr20 let alone deployed one .. I know the terminology but is about it
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Xcp is postoffice coin
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It was about time, In 30mins we back dont worry! We want to make your evening fun!
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Now you’re getting somewhere pappy
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But you lol when I say it to Mike
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Change api’s and yes
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Thats the joke
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I've always said this. its chess not checkers
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Artwork for FORKOFF.WAR ... design by talented artist LycosFreak 🤷️️️️
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Training Day - King Kong
King Kong ain't got shit on me! ------------------------------------------ You disloyal fool-ass bitch made punk! JAKE! I NEED MA MONEY! JAKE! Aww you motherfuckers. OK. Alright. I'm puttin' cases on all you bitches. Huh? You think you can do this shit..JAKE! You think you can do this to ME? You motherfuckers will be playin' basketball in Pelican Bay when I get finished wichu! SHU program nigga! 23 hour lockdown! I'm the man up in this piece! You'll never see the light of da..who the fuck d'ya think you fuckin' with? I'm the police! I run shit here, you just live here! Yeah that's right you better walk away! Go on walk away coz Ima burn this motherfucker down. King Kong ain't got SHIT on me! That's alright. That's alright. Yeah, I don't g'fuck. I'm winnin' anyway. I'm winnin'. I'm winnin' any mo'fuckin' way, I can' lose. Yeah you can shoot me, but you can't kill me. Yeah. Aww what a day. What a mo'fuckin' day.
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we said fork the fed guys, not counterparty..🥴
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Haha made me laugh again
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I dont follow. You lol, why? I ask for your benefit if you’ll bite.
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How is posting memes right now in the communities best interest? Wow maybe counterparty needs to die
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This is a great meme for the situation
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I agree, and that’s why I have so much respect for Jdog. He did exactly that. I’m glad we agree
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Exactly. Stamps and counterparty should quite obviously be two different protocols.
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Is this a gif of cleaning shit out of the sink because - wow, appropriate
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why?
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Glad you notice! we put some Stamp papel to your mensajes! Your welcome! 💚
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Because the tools and incentives built for XCP don’t work for stamps. And since stamps have contributed zero to the XCP ecosystem there is zero reason anyone in XCP land should try to accommodate them.
Larger issue - because XCP is a fairly useless token because it has flawed BTC maxi tokenomics built in there are few ways to “give back” as a new project. It’s clear that changes are needed and also that some XCP devs like XCP being legacy gimped and don’t want it to change.
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I don’t think the xcp tx fee goes far enough, but at least it’s a start. I’m all for a complete retooling of what xcp means, including xcp staking and tx fees for *all* transfers (just higher ones for numeric assets), that rewards xcp holders with xcp - but at least we have taken the first step
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Xcp’s current tokenomics are like someone *wanted* there to be a tragedy of the commons and built specifically for it. A protocol’s existence shouldn’t be predicated on benevolence.
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Well have New wallets interested, we have bring more users to freewallet and Xchain than in the last 5 years altogether (Im pretty sure...) Because CP appeared in Major media after years with some minor news? I cant really understand why users IS a bad thing in your eyes.
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Also New devs teams interested in decentralize the protocol and expand the tools
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Because, xcp in its current form does not incentivize new users or new projects - as I have stated
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Interested in spamming the protocol into unusability, extracting maximum profit, and moving on in six months. Ftfy
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You are the same crypto bros that created eternal September of 2017 with your nonsense
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Not sure if its a fishbowl mentality or if its something else. The only reason I can understand IS the one give by @XCERXCP today. And I can understand that, but if I where in this state of mind I would try to look for the opportunity here for everyone.
Even do I agree, still surprised that the main conversation here IS about the fee and not about decentralize the protocol and create new tools and improve old ones for the new times. How can that not be the main interest?
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I agree
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The Stamp market where dead already si months and we are more now, dont buying that.
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Which one of you is vorhees btw. Take a break from your happily ever after and private island and help fix this shit please. This is partly your mess.
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Im sorry you didnt got into punks
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Sorry, let me rephrase. We could use a hand
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You said that you dont want us before haha
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Yes toxic BTC maxi philosophy cost me infinite gains on 55 cent ethereum and every project that came on it in the first years. Thankfully rare pepes have changed my life multiple times enough to make up for it
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But see, crucially, Ethereum has done a million sketchy and stupid things that have violated their social contract ten times over - but fundamentally *they incentivize their token holders*
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And as such they enjoy people happily building and maintaining the rails of Ethereum for free because it’s profitable to do so. No benevolence required
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Also @jdogresorg if xchain ever needs funding I’m all for you literally making an xchain asset and selling it. Then wallets who hold x amount of xchain get increased functionality from the site, etc etc
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of all the things that don't need to be tokenized, the freemium business model is near the top...
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You are right, the thing IS that right now, there urge to build everything that mainly Jdog was asking for years.
After that IS the time to Talk about incentives... And here como the fees or the proposals you did. But without OS infra, all that plans Will fall apart for one single entity in any time In the future.
Not sure if in this chat we are capable of seen It, thats why dev teams are not here so often. -
But guess this chat IS to Scream "can the devs do this and not that?"
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J-Dog (@jdogresorg) on X
How did you determine consensus? Using what method? A few relatively new/loud devs talk louder and make big promises, so the needs of their project outweigh the needs of all the many users of Counterparty?!? 🤮 @CounterpartyXCP @FreeWallet @XChain_io @mikeinspace @Stampchain
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Break the infastructure, but let us build, then we will be reasonable and talk about "responsible" usage of Counterparty.... "Hey, These BTNS broadcasts seem to be a problem now, not numerics, lets put a fee on those instead of numerics"
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But you know that the issue is the DB, and before the fork there were starting the conversations.
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Also that you had a lot on your shoulders for years.
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Can't wait for the next 10k pfp project on postoffice coin
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pretty sure upgrades to xchain were on the table for over two years
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and the community even thought they donated to pay for those types of improvements
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Would be nice if they took 5 mins to come in the main chat and talk with folks and set the tone. I see Joe posting on X everyday.
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how do we know that this remains an official channel with the new maintainers, maybe they are focused where the most potential eyes are?
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Yess, Ive seen many CIPs for ideas we are discussing now. But as @katiecharm said there werent the incentives to be fully on them.
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That desire to keep xcp broken and outdated out of some weird sense of staying 'cool' and 'og weird' is what bothers me the most, frankly. Ive seen it first hand.
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How do we come together and aling, thats the Rarepepe question.
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There’s people every hour coming in asking about there wallets and xchain not working and we don’t even have a pinned message addressing anything. They’re going to move the official channel now elsewhere? Is this part of the rebranding to post office coin we predicted?
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I did upgrade xchain and counterparty over the years.... to be clear, community raised $600k 3 years ago (even Adam donated), and I am greatly appreciative... I said I would do dev for 3 years, and I have... unfortunately, the market tanked, that $600k became $200k almost overnight.... so the funds the community donated were used up in the first year.... I let everyone know this, but I stuck around, keeping my word, pushing CP forward... and on my own dime the past 2 years ($200k year costs x 2 years = $400k).... so YEAH, this sucks... but i've stuck my by word, worked on Counterparty full-time the full 3 years, and funded it to the tune of $400K out of my own pocket..... all while being abused, told I am over-reacting about things failing.... I screamed for dev support for years and more wallets/explorers.... YES, I put myself on this cross, and agreed to bear it for 3 years, I stuck to my word, and just took the beating and kept counterparty alive all this time.... But I reached my breaking point, and I am DONE playing nice... short of playing chicken with a $1 Billion dollar ledger again (no one wants another fork), I am done asking nicely, and I am speaking my mind in an unfiltered way.
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Listen to the lyrics of both songs.... particularly true in this historic moment (historic for me at least)
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Done taking shit, done playing nice.... some call me crazy and rogue... buckle up ppl... gonna be a fun 2024
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You just answered a question with a question, and you presumed I stated a fact when I proposed a question.
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Since Counterwallet is the official, are those servers up? Sure doesn't look like it. Who controls those?
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You seemed to imply they may choose to not use this chat anymore for whatever odd reason, so figured you may have inside info.
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Nope, I asked a question, people were assuming this would remain an official channel of communication, I pointed out that assumption might be incorrect.
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Gotcha. Well if that were to come true, then we’re officially post office coin.
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It would be like invaders knocking down the statues to establish their new ideas for going postal.
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nope, they been down for over a month... Javier and I identified the issue, submitted pull 3 pull requests with 2 different possible fixes.... the core devs have failed to move any of those updates forward, or really have much discussion on which solution to take... doesn't seem like a priority for them 🤷️️️️
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Weeks ago you said you'd have them back up in a week IIRC. Sounds like a malicious move to purposefully pre-nerf the community before this created fiasco.
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In the new official post office coin chat apparently
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"Should I stat or should I got now? If I go, there will be trouble, and if I stat It will be double" WoW, good taste bdw.
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We noticed.
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Limited cooperation.
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Also XCP fees for anything do not directly correlate to supporting any infrastructure without pumping someones personal bag in the process. Misdirection, wrong issue.
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LOL... if I force a fix, I am a evil dictator... so I wrote code, suggest the solutions, and wait for the other core devs to push forwrad a change... done being attacked.... not my fault that they didn't make getting counterwallet back up again a priority.... Not every problem in CP is mine to solve anymore.... can't have it both ways 🤷️️️️
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Wallet updated for donations by default.
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I never spoke of fees
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counterwallet was a dumpster fire and should just be scrapped
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They had to vacate to the mountain tops to get away from the forum sliders and near sighted.
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I have asked before months ago but it went unanswered, is there an official xchain chat?
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I dont want the support cost... ppl figure it out or they dont
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DYOR
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Boooom
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Previous similar rushed ‘updates’ broke it.
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Previous updates broke it.
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Not intended for your consumption. For the rest of the class. I’m w you.
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You’re missing the point of counterwallet
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Since September 2023 I am building a wallet for CP that will be ready by February of this year. I can also submit a proposal as founder of Blocklack USA, INC. to develop tools, explorers and improve the protocol, if the community agrees and raises money we can start building.
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Former Huobi exchange founder Du Jun is looking for Bitcoin L2 projects and development teams and providing $50 million in financial support. Can Counterparty and BTNS get in touch?Du Jun (@DujunX) on X准备深度参与比特币生态建设 优选赛道:Layer2 自带 5000 万美元 求大神组队。 项目上线之日,我会公布5000 万 U 或等值比特币地址,专供此项目发展使用。
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If it wasn’t a movie.. it just became a movie. Billy Mitchell ain’t got nothing on this.
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Meh I dunno man. He uses to sell those counterparty boxes for donations which were needed to keep things even running. So much bitching
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How is CP broken, it's done almost same as 10 years ago, now has dispensors and many bug fixed.
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All good and all but how will you sell them?
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Dispenser double spends, xcp entirely iliquid. No stablecoin support. I had a long list of improvements that could be made to improve ux, but ive forgotten now.
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Those millions in value are probably more like a few hundred k at best right now due to illiquidity unfortunately. By encouraging XCP use and the Dex some of that value could maybe be recaptured but not with bulk of the stampsters hating on xcp and driving all traffic elsewhere.
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What ppl want
1) eth style inscriptions, press 2 mouse clicks and buy 30000 inscriptions on eth that are useless and might pump, get more noobs to come buy pump dumb scammy shit, but issurers get rich (maybe)
2) ordinals erc20 coin 2.0 which does nothing and is not related to ordinals on btc. Buy it and pray to God other idiots do.
Those trollings aside, I think the new thorchain multichain stuff is cool and would like some type of lightning dex which hasn't been done on xcp I think but, perhaps that's not the "thing" for xcp. I just imagine a day when you can open freewallet and have some aggregators auto placing market orders for stuff, with xcp assets tied to some l2 or lightning supply... Dunno who's gonna do this.
Mandleduck worked on some lightning stuff for games and I've brought a couple these ideas up before with @jdogresorg ... Anyway just so much shit to be at
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I think we need more devs, but they need to be paid. All good ideas, double spends yes, an issue for slow btc, should have an auto refund in.
Xcp yah is sorta illiquid but the market cap, I mean it's ok. It's an order book like trade orge back in the day. Even now all these low cap shitcoins on eth. Try and market buy 1 btc and see the slippage you get.
You could even say, where you gonna even get the liquidity? I dunno maybe a new "liq making event"
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U want ppl on xcp? Do that and see how many new "community members" and volunteers you get to fk it over. Bring the money raise and see what's up.
Perhaps the easiest legal issue to overcome is just a token burn again. Issue new xcp.... But again, why? To make a new aggregator and auto MM? Therws no point, you can buy the rarepepe and new assets with btc. Just need to fix the dispensors, but not the order book. Order book I think only matches when it can and will auto refund. -
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Sounds like it’s an abandoned blockchain ready to be taken over with new devs tbh. Yeah the desire to keep things broken isn’t attractive - it’s time for XCP to move into the 2020’s.
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It sucks that the way to make XCP most usable these days is use a centralized third party (coval) to vault an XCP token and create a representative token on Ethereum.
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and to restate the central thesis, BTC maxis tends to make fun projects that have atrocious tokenomics and no real ability to self sustain through an economy because they don’t want to dare challenge their own bags, as if it’s some sort of sacred commandment.
Meanwhile others who aren’t beholden to that nonsense happily innovate away. Maybe classic XCP and an “XCP++” could coexist. Perhaps the old XCP addresses would work similarly with the same token, would just have a small tx fee attached.
Meanwhile XCP++ assets would do things dramatically differently. For one, it would be a brand new name space, and now named assets would be rented for a certain number of blocks by spending XCP. No more asset name squating. Maybe ALL assets begin life as a numeric asset and then can register a chain name. Also XCP++ would distribute tx fees to XCP nodes who staked a moderate amount of the token. Now XCP has self-sustaining value. People want the token, and there is a real cost to spending it or abusing it.
With XCP master nodes earning XCP from asset creation, tx sends, and name registrations there’s a lot of good reasons to hodl XCP.
If we want to get really advanced, XCP++ could even run a side chain that users could store to create a cheap database of nft headers and data, all secured by the BTC blockchain without every detail of a dog jpeg needing to be on the bitcoin blockchain. That’s the most elegant solution and one that should honestly make BTC core devs happy -
It lead the masses in a new direction, with an original concept, launched in a fair way, by true coders, and didn’t chase $$$ or do scammy shit to stay relevant…. ETH, shitcoin, pump n dump…. It stayed the course, didn’t pivot, and had proved its true value, as has Bitcoin.
Now it’s time for growth!
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This is just a dream sheet however, but I think it would be a damn cool dream to have. with that feature set XCP would honestly be competitive with Eth nfts and dumbass ordinals
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the man behin teh curtain reveals himself?
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sounds like a fork
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can we add royalties and a buy/sell tax too?
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for wanting to avoid shitcoinomics it sure sounds like a lot of shitcoin tech requests tbh
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Wait until post office coin reaches full potential
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The goal would not be to be Turing complete - not trying to compete with Ethereum, and that’s a feature tbh. A limited feature set means limited possible exploits. A way to create and transact semi-fungible assets that incentivizes itself and sustains itself / because otherwise the project will fall to the tragedy of the commons. Look at the many projects that shared that exact fate because there was no compelling reason for anyone to care about them
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So no, no one’s suggesting enabling shib like shitcoins on xcp.
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No, you are talking about forking xcp and making that a flavor of the week shitcoin
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Now imagine a world where xcp had these tokenomics form the beginning and xcp was worth $760 each in 2023, with new asset launches being a big deal and stakers being very proud of their investments. People deploy their nft projects on xcp because they want to be able to transact in the xcp dex and earn some of it
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And you want to leave it in it’s broken state that cannot even manage to avoid being forked due to core devs not caring enough to stop a protocol killing abuse
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Self sustaining economic systems must be self sustaining. Do you think Bitcoin miners should be rewarded with bitcoins?
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Does that make Bitcoin a shitcoin?
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No ma'am, I simply want to let the smoke clear, and assess a solution to getting all users back onto base functionality. THEN we can find a way to have a consensus, THEN we can add features if they reach that consensus
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An XCP dex is pointless if you lack any economic incentives for anyone to give a shit about XCP.
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Take a little time to step back and breathe, dont change the whole recipie of something that worked for a decade
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The high courts of nations dont kneejerk, why should little 'ol us?
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It did not work. And if some of the earliest nfts weren’t unfortunately on that protocol, it would have long died and gone the way other abandonware blockchains.
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It has limped along purely due to historic value
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hard disagree
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And I think a good solution locks in that historic value but also offers a way to incentivize people to build something new
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What important projects were launched in XCP between 2018 and 2023
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Don’t worry, I’ll wait
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that one doesnt count as important
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Touche, one decent salmon swimming upstream against terrible economic forces
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Bitcorns
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XCP luddites need to think long and hard about both *why* people want ETH but don’t care or want XCP, and also *the consequences* of no one wanting or valuing XCP.
Would XCP exist if every XCP node turned off due to lack of interest? Would XCP exist due to every block explorer shutting down due to no economic incentive? Would XCP exist if devs weren’t around to fix bugs and create new versions? Of course not.
Why do you think the current XCP devs could care less about it? Because the token has no chance to be worth anything because terrible parameters never gave it a chance.
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First step is getting xcp back on a liquid exchange. Did Bittrex or Poloniex ever release their massive wallets of xcp from years ago?
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Next step is getting people to correlate stamps and rare Pepe with xcp, which most prob don’t.
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That’s accomplished by driving traffic to the dex and not vaulting to shitcoin land
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Missing the point entirely
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Why did xcp get delisted
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Why do people want to vault to “shitcoin land”
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Because those things incentivize their holders, generate volume, and sustain value.
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No and they never will for legal reasons. There have been considerable efforts to get back on liquid exchanges but to do so requires a lot of $$ even get listed and then more $$ to pay market makers if there is not enough organic liquidity, else they will delist your token.
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XCP Luddites want to absolutely strip a token of any desirability and then make a pikachu face when the ecosystem collapses because no one wants the token
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From what I recall it requires more work to maintain for the exchange and needs reliable help on the dev side to help which they weren’t getting. Maybe I’m wrong. Of course higher demand helps solve this as well.
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Any idea what % of xcp they hold? Its rather large if I recalrecalll correctly
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Anyway, looks like xchain is currently down due to a 1206 error. This means rpw.wtf is also down since it depends on it. Wondering if I can still send XCP assets with free wallet
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It had to do mostly with a general clean sweep that was going on when gov was cracking down on exchanges for potentially listing security tokens
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It is irrelevant, those tokens will never enter circulation again
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It’s relevant to proper evaluation. Coinmarketcap shows 2.6 supply but if it’s actually 1.9 or whatever that matters and should be made known to the market.
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I thought they had a large wallet of their own to market make and keep on hand
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Think of all the liquidity if stamps encouraged use of xcp and the platform that gave them life.
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Yeah seems freewallet isn’t working either
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Unlikely. More likely stamps breaks and destroys what little infrastructure there is - then moves on to the next thing once they’ve fully destroyed what’s left of xcp
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Since stamps are so lucrative I’m looking forward to all the stamp chain tools and explorers
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Since stamps are so lucrative, everyone will happily use the stamp fork and the tools that come with it, and any other XCP implementation will die off.
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Maybe you should go make a PowerPoint slide presentation about it with some star wipes and call it your whitepaper.
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Sorry, wipe paper
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I’m going to start reading ‘Coding for Dummies 101’ and see if I can’t become the dev that saves xcp.
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Well currently thanks to stamps and their fuckery I can’t send any rare pepes tonight which is causing me actual material loss. Happy to continue to support any protocol changes that prevent xcp from grinding to a halt once more and protects accessibility to some of humanity’s oldest nfts
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Rarepepewallet.com should still work
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Jdog has a large % of assets as well. He won’t let all of that go to zero out of spite.
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MaFiA wArZ
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Fake Rares, Dank Rares, Fake Commons, Rareland, TheWojakWay, RareCoco (and way more I'm forgetting)
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What about Phunchkins? I saw that pumped for a year or so then gone. Website down. Rugged.
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I never collected them, didn't dig into them
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Check dm
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Prob one of space mike’s rug projects.
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rarepepewallet.com is up
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Thank you, will try
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Haha, so it turns out that emblem curated vaults depend on xchain as well - and so no one can vault a rare Pepe while xchain is down
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Did we get rugged then?
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Did the fork happen already or why is it all down,I was just reading he left a 30 day window,or has that passed?
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the fork got cancelled
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There is no fork anymore, xchain is down so is freewallet. Counterparty protocol, THE FROGS, are chilling
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Cope harder! kek
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Fix it
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This is all over a .1 xcp charge? Hilarious
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So stupid
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THE FROGS ARE CHILLING #facts
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compare that to the wallet donations and its peanuts
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this is not over a fee. this is over the inability of devs to determine consensus
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You’re a bit behind. The 30 day window changed to a few blocks windows after a few minutes notice.
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definately agree dont let the new people vote. just any people would be fine
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I understand the depths this really goes but was sparked by a .1 fee.
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I just find it very time stampable. Wen I can create a token again. lol
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So great. @jdogresorg is a legend.
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Anyone else have dns issues with freewallet and xchain?
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Read above. 👆Way above
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Inshallah
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Which means a hostile fork might be honestly needed then.
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That’s what happens when devs can’t decide consensus - hence Ethereum classic, etc
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It never was about a fee. Xchain could not keep up with the protocol.
A fee would have still left the real performance issues.
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It’s madness that a database optimisation problem is causing so many issues
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it wasnt
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lol
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simp view
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Toxic shit
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Sounds like, to me, some of these people bleeding counterparty of value, need to put a whole bunch of it back in. Then everyone would shut up. You know who your are
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but that was their main goal
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They will lose eventually
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they thought she would never lose
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They would all win if they worked together and merged or fell in line with the protocol.
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what profound egotistical stupidity is this
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The majority = the horde of new stamp users?
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Good job; now xcp is pretty much unusable for the most part. Shows just how rekt the entire protocol would be without the evil jdog you people are screeching against
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ya all the devs are betas lol
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The truth Karen. Cope
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You’re gonna eat those words.
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Can't do anything. XCP is largely useless at the moment because the entire ecosystem depended on the work of the person you idiots wanted gone.
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Stop trying to slide the topic. Got anything constructive to bring to the table?
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I think with majority he refers the active devs
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nobody wanted a person gone, they disagreed with their actions
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The active devs who haven't done a damn thing for 9 months? When was the last actual dev work done by them?
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Because you dont take it seriously enough to know how to change api or run your own node.
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what have you done?
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asking from honesty
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don't know you
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Big words from someone who can't even prove they own those stamps they shill so endlessly.
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I've done as much as the XCP core devs have in 2023, for one.
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We are about neck and neck on commits
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You have been developing?
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The core devs have not.
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But what have you done?
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u dont seem to be doing much of anything? are you maintainer?
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Stamp liquidity provider - very important work
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pfft lol
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No, one toxic trait from the stamp people are to come in here and speak with faux authority as if they speak for the protocol, when most of them have never touched it before 2023
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You don’t bring anything of substance to the conversation. I do.
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Counterparty is bulletproof.
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Sorry I meant what have you been been developing on counterparty
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sounds like j dog will decide what happens to us all then
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fair enough
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spicey!
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The active dev for 8 of the last 9 months has been Jdog uniquely
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... versus....
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Good job celebrating losing the person who was actually doing the work.
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But they are not active devs, are you implying that people need to code for what reason?
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Are you implying that someone should exert authority over a protocol while not contributing to it?
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I don't celebrate, neither wanted this to happen, but you are putting the focus in the wrong things imho
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In that case I'm king of XCP.
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Jdog stepped out a month ago
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And the stamp people definitely should get their way
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himself
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because of the very same hostile attitude you are presenting:
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open protocol you cant decide sorry
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you literally highlighted a dead dev to prove your point
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Pilot is a troll and he doesn't know
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what hostile attitude? I cannot have more respect for Jdog for the last 3 years I have been here
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"nothing should change" "no one should care about the dev doing the work" " the only working block explorer doesn't matter" "lets shit up the protocol and wreck it" ..... yeah I'd get exhausted too
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but haven't seen you even once until your AI pepe got visibility again, with all the respect
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maybe I'm wrong
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again, waiting on you to prove you own any stamps, but you can't right now can you
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yes i can :)
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what do you mean? there are two explorers working right now
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or that
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what would you like me to sign from this address?
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He was tinkering with what was already there.
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github defaults to commits in the last 12 months - take it up with git
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Idgaf
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only jdog and javier have been building, only two active developers
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okay karen, maybe you can talk to the manager of counterparty about it
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I made a whole collection of 600 karen stamps, in case you want to collect
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The Pixel Karens
THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MANAGER.
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others might try to argue that xcp is perfect and even though one project can spam it into unusability it needs no changes ever and should never be touched - even when it's unusable
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needs one for sure
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xcp is not perfect
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xcp has an obvious lack of resources and developers, but reality has been what has been
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Idgaf about your github issues, Karen.
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least triggered stamp bag holder
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A protocol should not need development. Seal it and leave it.
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You glow
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good god please eat less paint and stop spending so much time on 4chan
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Protocols need development; you just happen to be against it because the current one contains a flaw that allows you to destroy it for profit.
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You cant speak for me.
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Imagine if ETH had never developed itself after 2017? Imagine if Bitcoin had never made any changes? Are you literally 15 years old?
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You're just speaking nonsense now.
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But what you are not understanding is that counterparty was not the problem
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counterparty works fine
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ETH lol
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if changes want to be made, can be made
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but protocol hasn't failed, or nodes stopped working