- 20 August 2020 (19 messages)
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MPMAs are comprised of 2 txs.... first tx is a pre-tx to set things up for the second tx... the first tx only pays 1000 satoshis... a low fee.... the second tx is supposed to use the fee specified in the MPMA interface... but apparently it is still forcing the tx to 1000 satoshis... I need to get in there and fix that in the next release -
I’m going to do some write ups on this and dispensers so I just want to make sure I know what I’m talking about.
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Ok gotcha thanks
- 21 August 2020 (73 messages)
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hrm... according to the code I am forcing a 1000 satoshi fee on the second tx (the actual MPMA send)... but in looking at your tx, your paying a MUCH higher tx fee than that.... so, perhaps Counterparty is using its default fee calculation... I'll have to dig into it a bit more
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ideally it should use the fee you specify... but, if it is using the default fee calculation now, that is better than sending a tx with too low of a fee and having it timeout 🙂
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anyway, i'll dig into in a bit
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Ok gotcha one more question
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also I believe that MPMA sends don't work FROM segwit addresses at this time.... only from traditional addresses.... I belive John was having some issues with signing the txs
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That’s the 54 address send above, size 2340 vB
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That’s a single send, 249 vB
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So I sent 54x but the size only increased 10x vs a single send?
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the size of the tx depends on a bunch of factors.. # of unique assets, # of unique addresses, etc.... but yes, you can save considerably on the costs by batching.
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Wow, that’s like 80% savings by sending multi vs single
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cips/cip-0010.md at master · CounterpartyXCP/cips
Counterparty Improvement Proposals. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/cips development by creating an account on GitHub.
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There is the CIP if you want to get at the tech details of how it is so cheap... lookup tables 🙂
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Thank you will do
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Who is god?
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LOL... he is speaking directly to you Xcer... this is your burning bush moment.. listen! 😛
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Lmao 😂 I’m listening
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Boy he has a lot to say to you tonight! 😛
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It may not be enough, but I sent it. Thank you as always. -
That’s awesome of you! Thanks!
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the donation! 🙂
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CIP22 is now fully funded and John will begin work on addrindexrs immediately 🙂
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Wow, unreal, great day for CP! Thank you!
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??? you have a specific question?
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Is there ANY way to store (not neccesarily access) CounterParty tokens on a Trezor? -
I just want to store the there and transfer out when I need to actually do stuff with them
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now that was quick 😊
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well done!!
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It should just work. Counterparty transactions are just Bitcoin transactions.
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What happens if you send a token to an address that's stored on your trezor?
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THe last time we tried this was when Trezors were just released. We could see the tiny amount of BTC - was it 543 sats? but no tokens
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just tried again with some shit-coins
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A while ago I added some Trezor integration into freewallet... its been a while tho... so you should test that it is working to send/sign the send tx before you put any significant amount on the Trezor
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Oh dont worry - low value shit coins only before the valuable funds go anywhere 😊
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its a bit wonky.... it throws you to freewallet.io to use Trezor connect... then you select the addresses to import, and it imports them into freewallet
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I'm using the desktop version on Ubuntu right now - should I switch to my phone?
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nope... you should use desktop version
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mobile hasn't been updated in a couple years... only supports sends, issuances, broadcasts... no dex, dispensers, etc
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If you find that it isn't working, please LMK at https://github.com/jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop/issues/19 and i'll look into it 🙂Hardware Wallet Support · Issue #19 · jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop
Look into adding support for the following hardware wallets : Trezor - https://gist.github.com/sorce/396fe44739392756abac8c2e213bb11e Ledger - https://github.com/mandelmonkey/ledger-cp KeepKey Open...
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ah OK - found it 😊
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Error getting public key _ might be an idea to disable MetaMask temporarily
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What would it take to bring the web freewallet.io up to date?
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web... you mean the mobile version that runs on the web? https://freewallet.io/mobile/
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honestly... it is written in an older framework (Sencha Touch) and I'm not eager to update it..... would rather spend my time writing a new web-wallet which will work on mobile devices and desktops.... could avoid having to go through the apple app store and google play store... makes dev much easier 🙂
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still getting an error Error getting public key... Please try again
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I'm on Brave - should I get risky and try again on Chrome?
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if you want... its been a while since I updated.. so prolly broken
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I admire such honesty in a developer
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And it would have all the features of the desktop like DEX and dispensers?
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Yes... only issue would be using BTC on the DEX... would need to leave the browser window open... so BTC would prolly only work on desktop where the browser would stay active and able to check for order matches, send out BTCpay payments, etc
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but, I could do like I do in freewallet... allow people to "lock" the wallet so no one can access funds or send anything without knowing password, while still having the wallet auto-sign BTCpay transactions in the background
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Tea, that sounds good. What would need to happen for that?
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Just a matter of time and funding... working on a few different projects right now (non-crypto), so time is limited.
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figured cause it doesn't work on my phone type -
you've done an excellent job so far bro........really appreciate what you're doing
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Thx 😀👍🏻
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How much time and funding?
- 22 August 2020 (40 messages)
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are these ghost/fake buy orders on the DEX?
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lol unable to post image
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CIP23? What’s next?
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Ghost/fake?
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I tweaked ur permissions so u can post images/gifs/links now
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Haven’t spent much time thinking about it yet... will try to write up a CIP when I get some spare time
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these buy orders on the DEX
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Not ghost/fake... just regular orders.... I got some xcp off the DEX yesterday for BTC.... so it’s working fine
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Ppl have to pay btc to list orders on the DEX,... so no fake orders
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i mean the buy orders and sell orders are overlapping
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and if you try to sell in to any of those buy orders, the order execution doesnt happen
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Using BTC on the DEX is a bit different than every other asset on the DEX.... BTC can't be escrowed by the DEX... so you place a BTC buy order, someone places a sell order.. the 2 orders match, THEN the buyer has 20 blocks to send the BTC payment directly to the sellers address..... once the DEX detects the payment for the order match, then the actual trade excutes.
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The overlap is due to ppl who placed orders to buy stuff using BTC..... their ordres matched with sellers, but they never sent the BTC (they need to be using freewallet.io with auto-BTCpay setup to automatically listen for order matches and send the BTC payment within 20 blocks).... so after 20 blocks, the order match expires, and the XCP becomes available again for someone else to purchase...... process goes on and on until the order matches with someone who actually pays
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sec i'll get ya an example
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There is a good example... someone placed an order to sell some XCP... people placed orders to buy XCP... order matches took place, but the buyers never sent the BTC... so you see the order matches expire
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process repeats.... order match, wait for payment, free up XCP when order payment doesn't come.... rinse and repeat until the system matches with a buyer who actually DOES send the BTC payment for the order in the 20 block window
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that is why you see 8 expired orders on the above link.... and 2 successfull/completed ones
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using BTC on the DEX is a lil bit more complex than using any other asset on the DEX... which is why BTC wasn't used on the DEX for a number of years..... no easy way to use BTC on the DEX... counterwallet wouldn't make the BTCpay transactions
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i see
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That is why I wrote freewallet a couple years ago and added the Auto-BTCpay feature.... to make using BTC on the counterparty DEX just like traditional exchanges.... making it a "fire and forget" style thing... place your order, forget about it, come back to see your trade executed.... no wierd having to watch for order matches and send payments manually real quick, etc
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it sure is confusing for new users
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lol
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eh... just gotta ask some questions.. or search on the counterpartytalk.org forums... lots of talk on the way the DEX works
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but yeah.. using BTC on the dex is a lil confusing.... especially when you see wierd stuff like orderbook overlaps
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market depth be like huh?
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so this is what happens when I try to sell XCP onto the buy orders at the top huh
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could be.... when you place an order, it either matches with someone and waits for BTC payment and then expires... or it just waits for a match and then expires.
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so yeah.. could be ppl placing BTC buy orders without really understanding that they need to send a BTCpayment later.... unfortunately no real warning or anything on counterwallet when ppl place BTC orders
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cool got it
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- 23 August 2020 (52 messages)
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How would Counterparty be best described?
1) A smart contract platform on Bitcoin that's able to mint assets on the Bitcoin network
2) A cross chain dex able to swap Bitcoin to other Cryptocurrencies
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Correct me if I'm wrong please
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nice. Been reading up on xprotectx.com and its cool
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I don't like the term of platform, it sounds like "layer 2" but XCP is still "layer 1.x" I would say
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I often see people mistaking XCP for a sidechain
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I don’t think they would or should trust any party. I think they would trust a reputable company like a BOA or Visa if they said their CP NFT proves that they have KYC for the address holder.
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BoA or Visa would issue the token directly to their existing customers.
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Yep. That's why protocol is the right word
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If Bitcoin had scaled Counterparty would be highly valuable imo.
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Bitcoin is still the same since 4 years ago, even Ethereum is the same lol
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All the xcp on the DEX at or below current zaif price have been snatched up lately.... some ppl prolly looking to see if they can sell some xcp for a profit😀👍🏻
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Personally I still think we could implement KYC support via white lists..... asset owner registers asset with kyc list option....client gives asset owner/central authority their bitcoin address.... bank/company/asset owner does traditional kyc on clients (lookup client info, verify nationality, make sure not on ofac list, etc)...... then central authority just broadcasts/maintains a list of addresses that are allowed to hold their asset.. and they deposit the asset for the client..... the platform then limits the sending/trading of the asset to only addresses on the asset owners list..... easy peasy kyc enforced at a protocol level..... assets can only be held/traded by approved customers.... easy for a company to verify to the gov that their token won’t get traded outside of the approved kyc customers
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That being said.... what we have right now is working fine.... at some point if we hear that companies are specifically NOT using Counterparty because they can't limit their token to only KYC approved clients, then we can consider adding this feature...... maintaining lists is not really a great use of Counterparty.
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if funds are a main issue, has the team considered raising funds from VC's or big funds. Cash is really abundant right now and literal scams are raising millions....
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And what in return would you give these VC’s? You benefit from the protocol rise in value by owning XCP.
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@jdogresorg is XCP not too hard to install? (for an exchange)
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good question. equity or even a token swap with new tokenomics
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Companies/startups that use the protocol can raise funds and donate to the development of CP
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https://counterparty.io/docs/exchange_integration/ nope.... installing xcp isn’t hard... a bit of a large disk footprint at the moment using indexd.... but still easy for exchange to integrate if they want.....we don’t have exchange listings cuz it’s a pay to play game now..... we get offers to get listed on exchanges all the time but all want 1-10 BTC listing fees.... I’m not paying a listing fee and I dont think community should either.... funds better spent on improving the protocol..... if someone wanted to pay for a listing, go for it😀👍🏻
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Shouldn't be paid
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read posts below thiss
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you cant sell into them
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http://xchain.io/market/XCP/BTC check buy and sell order tabs
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Yes, you can... dunno where your getting the idea that people are able to place fake/ghost orders on the DEX or that people are not able to buy with BTC... I explained to you yesterday how BTC on the DEX works, so not sure why your still saying stuff like "can't sell into them"
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if an order is on the DEX, you can place a matching order.... the only thing that is questionable is if when your order matches with someone if they will send you the BTC, or if your order match will expire and wait for a match with someone else
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yes but when people see a limit buy order they usually assume they can sell their XCP onto it and get BTC immediately, but thats not the case
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i just didnt explain to him fully
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Partial fills are possible... depends on if someone matches ur whole order or just part of it
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Please scroll up and review the conversation I had yesterday on how BTC on the DEX works
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I have explained why the orderbook overlaps at few times.... cuz people ahve placed orders to buy stuff with BTC, but are not actually sending the BTCpayment... so the order match expires.... explained it all yesterday complete with links to examples of orders with partial matches, links to orders with expired matches, etc
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Using BTC on the DEX is a bit different than every other asset on the DEX.... BTC can't be escrowed by the DEX... so you place a BTC buy order, someone places a sell order.. the 2 orders match, THEN the buyer has 20 blocks to send the BTC payment directly to the sellers address..... once the DEX detects the payment for the order match, then the actual trade excutes.
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The overlap is due to ppl who placed orders to buy stuff using BTC..... their ordres matched with sellers, but they never sent the BTC (they need to be using freewallet.io with auto-BTCpay setup to automatically listen for order matches and send the BTC payment within 20 blocks).... so after 20 blocks, the order match expires, and the XCP becomes available again for someone else to purchase...... process goes on and on until the order matches with someone who actually pays
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sec i'll get ya an example
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There is a good example... someone placed an order to sell some XCP... people placed orders to buy XCP... order matches took place, but the buyers never sent the BTC... so you see the order matches expire
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process repeats.... order match, wait for payment, free up XCP when order payment doesn't come.... rinse and repeat until the system matches with a buyer who actually DOES send the BTC payment for the order in the 20 block window
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that is why you see 8 expired orders on the above link.... and 2 successfull/completed ones
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using BTC on the DEX is a lil bit more complex than using any other asset on the DEX... which is why BTC wasn't used on the DEX for a number of years..... no easy way to use BTC on the DEX... counterwallet wouldn't make the BTCpay transactions
- 24 August 2020 (14 messages)
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That's exactly the case, I wish the orders would disappear after a certain time.
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Orders do disappear after a certain amount of time... I believe the max is 8064 blocks... you set when the order expires when you place the order.
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See that "Expires" box with 8064 in it... that is how many blocks the order expires in... so you can specify exactly how many blocks you want your order to be valid.... once the order expires, it is removed from the DEX orderbook
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🙂👍
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What’s this?
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When you say “The platform limits the sending/trading of the assets”, are you referring to CP as the platform?
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Yes, referring to CP (counterparty-lib) as the platform.
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CP should do this, adds a lot of upside
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“the platform then limits the sending/trading of the asset to only addresses on the asset owners list.”
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I like this a lot. Private funds could become more liquid and accessible.
- 25 August 2020 (13 messages)
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Some OTC scammer again. Looks like he deleted the message
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That is correct.
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XChain
Happy to announce some updates at https://t.co/kg6pp6YNN1 including over 4000 new asset icons, support for viewing NFT artwork directly in the blockchain explorer, and more!
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Sweet nice update
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Lol
- 26 August 2020 (158 messages)
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what do you guys think of RGB? I'm trying to understand the tech and it's usage compared to XCP
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No, there is not.... In the wallet itself I have a little questionnmark next to each field which describes that field and what data is expected.
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General Dispensers guidelines
1.) setup dispensers at a new address (so any incoming BTC is clearly for the dispenser)
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RGB vs existing alternatives comparison · Issue #11 · LNP-BP/FAQ
RGB compared to Liquid Confidential Assets: Works with Lightning Network Replaces Large Borromean signatures range proofs with modern Bulletproofs No blockchain space consumption! Universal smart c...
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The "much higher privacy" seems not really good for tokens like NFTs
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Where you want full history
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Seems interesting, but not for the n° 3) token that @chiguireitor described
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Of all the possible features I do not think that this is a priority at the moment
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I have also considered ways to implement kyc systematically. ultimately I don't want the burden of record-keeping, so I think a third party would be useful if not required.
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that's a feature loved by cryptoartist
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Not all tho
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agreed on this. Privacy isn't a useful feature for art/nfts/games, could be misused by creators to scam people too
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"yeah this art is unique" LOL
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and the guy made 10 identical private NFTS for his "digital art"
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how do you see the usage in chance games?
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interesting 👍
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looking to buy 10-15k XCP, if you are selling lets setup on DEX or Dispenser.
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I think this is a must have for SEC compliance of trading CP assets. Opens up a lot of new use cases that aren’t possible currently.
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there is always more than one way to skin a cat
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not everyone wants to let the cat out of the bag in the marketplace
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If the creator makes 10 assets privately for one digital art, every owner can ignore that others exist if he wants this to stay private nope?
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Yeah, that's the point of it
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You don't collect Rarepepes in privacy
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the theme of the room has bias interests, as it should. IT would be great if there is some kind of RGB-XCPmadeasset gateway at the end of this conversation. That would shed light
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otherwise i guess it is good to compare notes.
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is RGB going to institutionalize residual payment to the originator?
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just to be clear, there is no DEX on RGB?
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ok thanks
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Financial option, there was a temporal window extended. -
The person offering the channel has a time period where their counterparty can cancel the TX
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Which means the counterparty can optionally cancel their channel if price fluctuations are high enough in their favor
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More like most of CounterParty and ethereum cryptoart in one place for user collection display
- 27 August 2020 (19 messages)
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Could be interesting
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Lot more fun viewing sends on xchain with new update
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🐸🖼 🏦 WTH Auction House 🏦🖼🐸
Live auctions of Rare Pepes, Dank Rares, Fake Rares, Wojak Way, Memorychain, Oasis Mining, and other Counterparty collectables. Boss: @RarePepeTrader. Please MAKE SURE user name is exact in DMs. News and Updates: @WTHAuctionHouseNews
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Rare Pepe Party chat 🐸🐸
Ask devs about the game, share ideas and content. Way more verbose than the channel for announcements @RarePepeParty
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^^ see above links
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your friend may want to wait until the game comes out
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Is there a way for anyone to post their card so it views on xchain?
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You can use freeport.io to create an artwork NFT..... you also can use the format 'imgur/unique_image_code.jpg;artwork title' for the asset description...
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Take a look at the above asset for an example... if you upload your image to imgur and use that style format... your image will display on xchain... or, just register your asset using freeport.io's interface 🙂
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Now that’s a 💼
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Sir please sell me your bag
- 28 August 2020 (7 messages)
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Not mine.
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🤦♂️
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Freewallet.io desktop wallet is working and you can use the DEX interface.... the mobile version of freewallet is older and doesn't support the DEX
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Hello Paula Fiorita, welcome to Official Counterparty Chat, please write a message with the numbers and/or letters that appear in this image to verify that you are a human. If you don't solve the captcha in 5 mins, you will be automatically kicked out of the group. - 30 August 2020 (66 messages)
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closed == out of order / empty vending machine
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Dispenser sold out, or owner unplugged the machine
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Correct
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You could build some fun ui for a dispenser.
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I don't think sweep works. You may want to attempt a multi send instead
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Sweep works fine... however it requires a bit of XCP as an anti-spam fee
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The old "sweep" method in counterwallet was just daisy-chaining tsends together.... the new sweep actually moves everything in a single tx.... thx to @chiguireitor for CIP20.. https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0020.mdcips/cip-0020.md at master · CounterpartyXCP/cips
Counterparty Improvement Proposals. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/cips development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Very cool. Thanks for the clarification
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I don’t think this address is valid for CP
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Rarepepe in dispenser..... for 0.5 BTC
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THe error says you need more BTC... so the solution is.... you guessed it.. you need more BTC
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- 31 August 2020 (5 messages)
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No... Freewallet is only used to setup the dispenser... once a dispenser is open, you can closer freewallet.... the dispenser stays open and keeps giving out tokens until either a.) the vending machine runs out of tokens... or b.) The operator closes the dispenser ( a separate 'cancel/close' transaction)
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