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  • 24 November 2020 (78 messages)
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #61821 05:17 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    I'm looking to make CP the place to put all projects
  • @maxherbertwest #61822 08:19 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    Number go up
  • @maxherbertwest #61825 08:32 AM, 24 Nov 2020

    4_5933769706249913322.mp4

  • @1078446567 ↶ Reply to #61386 #61831 09:03 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    mrcDYzx5khGWViroP9E2v9hUWjoK6SzVqU I can't get the correct BTC balance In the [get_chain_address_info] API after any send is done
  • @maxherbertwest ↶ Reply to #61829 #61834 09:20 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    sticker (7).webp
  • @maxherbertwest #61838 11:27 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    I do not think so
  • @maxherbertwest #61839 11:41 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    For me, Max is a professional scammer, he cheated us all 1 year ago, and it was not the first time
  • @maxherbertwest #61840 11:42 AM, 24 Nov 2020
    use his twitter account and tv program, then enter the telegram groups and say any bullshit
  • @PutraDewaArjuna #61845 02:48 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Hi...any plan to get cp listed in exchange yet??
  • @jdogresorg #61846 03:17 PM, 24 Nov 2020

    mp4.mp4

  • @Tourou ↶ Reply to #61845 #61847 03:21 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Need to pay listing fee. But who pays?
  • @jdogresorg #61848 03:24 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Hey, someone was listening the last 20 times I answered the "wen exchange" question 🙂
  • @jdogresorg #61849 03:24 PM, 24 Nov 2020

    giphy (2).mp4

  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #61848 #61850 03:25 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Make it a pinned post
  • @jdogresorg #61851 03:30 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Not worth it. I'm just one guy speaking my opinion... not speaking in any official capacity on this topic..... Exchanges can list XCP, we have made great efforts to make it much simpler for exchangse to integrate, including MPMA to help with exchange payout batching, etc..... At the end of the day, it is up to the exchanges if they want to list XCP... we get offers all the time to get listed, but almost all of them are PAID LISTINGS... ie, someone has to pay to get them on the exchange. My personal opinion is that we should spend funds on development and not on exchange listings. If someone wants to pay out of their own pocket for an exchange listing, cool... but that is not something I will focus my efforts or finances on. Counterparty runs perfectly fine without being on centralized exchanges. You only need XCP for registering assets really, and you can pay with things direclty using BTC on Counterparty, so XCP being on exchanges does nothing really more than pump the price...... So to me the "wen exchange" questions has been answered many many times, and is typically only asked by people who care about the price pumping and judge a coin based off that metric and not based off the actual usability of the platform
  • @nonfungible_john ↶ Reply to #61814 #61852 03:31 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    The value-add is a distributed exchange market. It's objectively a poor indicator of health to have few trading venues. A single market is almost unheard of - and it's even worse than if Zaif has truly disabled withdrawals. It's great that Counterparty has a native marketplace but ideally some decentralization among exchanges is par-for-the course.
  • @ffmad #61853 03:32 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Does Counterparty website has a "how to" wiki to explain this for exchanges?
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #61853 #61854 03:33 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Yes, we have had it since the beginning, and have revised it over the years to make exchange integration easier (memos in sends for tracking deposits directly to hotwallet instead of intermediate deposit address) and MPMA (to batch sending out of withdrawls
  • @jdogresorg #61855 03:33 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    https://counterparty.io/docs/exchange_integration/
    Exchange Integration | Counterparty

    Developers/Notes_and_Tutorials/exchange_integration.md

  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #61855 #61856 03:34 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    👍
  • @104473096 #61857 04:02 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    i.e. someone should totally do a better interface for dex trading like the raizer stuff but a little bit more open (this is NOT endorsement of raizer, i don't know about them)
  • @104473096 #61858 04:02 PM, 24 Nov 2020

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  • @104473096 #61859 04:03 PM, 24 Nov 2020

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  • @104473096 #61860 04:03 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    i mean, the dex is there, operating 24/7
  • @jdogresorg #61861 04:03 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    100%... we need a better web wallet and have for a while.. counterwallet is old/outdated
  • @104473096 #61862 04:03 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    it's just a matter of doing a UI and promoting it
  • @jdogresorg #61864 04:04 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    https://raizer.cc/
  • @104473096 #61865 04:04 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    i would totally do it, but that's gonna be a steep price AND i'm better spending my time solving infrastructure and adding features than creating yet another wallet UI
  • @jdogresorg #61866 04:06 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    raizer.cc... a Skin over the CP DEX... and they use a raizer.BTC token to get around the "using BTC on the DEX is a pain" issue... users can just swap BTC for RAIZER.BTC which they can then use on the DEX just like XCP or any other asset..... simple "fire-n-forget" DEX orders... place order and can walk away, no need to monitor for BTC order matches and send BTC payments, etc..... they basically just bypass using BTC on the DEX 🙂
  • @jdogresorg #61867 04:06 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    I have not used their services nor reviewed their code... but they have been around for a while doing their own thing.... no one has screamed foul yet.
  • @104473096 #61868 04:06 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    it's not a bad idea tho, and it's a business model which i applaud (but they have very high onboard-outboard fees)
  • @ffmad #61869 04:07 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    If we have the mock-up / ideas for the Dex I can ask a designer to make something, and probably developers after
  • @104473096 #61870 04:07 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    just copy binance 🤣
  • @jdogresorg #61871 04:07 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    We also had a company doing something similar when CP first started... swapping BTC for XBTC and then using that on the DEX instead of BTC..... that company closed down pretty quick tho once they figured out that they were an unlicensed money exchanger and would get in some serious trouble if they kept operating
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #61870 #61872 04:07 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    😂
  • @104473096 #61873 04:08 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    raizer has a pretty good ui imho.... again, not endorsement
  • @104473096 #61874 04:08 PM, 24 Nov 2020

    photo_2020-11-24_16-08-48.jpg
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #61870 #61875 04:09 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    100%... that is what I did with freewallet DEX interface... copied what people were already used to... Poloniex trading interface.... immitation is the highest form of flattery 🙂
  • @jdogresorg #61876 04:09 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    https://i.gyazo.com/90e044ff91e02b44999bd494c4e2ebad.png
    None
  • @104473096 ↶ Reply to #61876 #61877 04:09 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    ❤️
  • @104473096 #61878 04:10 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    so namely, we have 3 current ways to access the DEX that are imho awesome ways to trade XCP
  • @104473096 #61879 04:10 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    it's just a matter of someone doing 1+1 and understanding how to couple the DEX with some liquidity
  • @ffmad #61880 04:10 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    I think a simple interface like uniswap would be good too
  • @ffmad #61881 04:11 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    The swap interface makes it easy for beginners
  • @104473096 ↶ Reply to #61880 #61882 04:11 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    that's what i'm talking about
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #61882 #61883 04:11 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    👍
  • @104473096 #61884 04:11 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    it's like, the opportunity is there and you don't have to ask permission to do it
  • @104473096 #61885 04:12 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    if ppl don't see that as an opportunity
  • @104473096 #61886 04:12 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    i mean, i'm getting paid to enhance and add features to this awesome system, and no one is taking the opportunities
  • @ffmad #61887 04:12 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Personally, I see the opportunity, I just lack the time 😭
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #61859 #61888 06:26 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Raizer is beautiful design
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #61866 #61889 06:27 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    Nice. That’s pretty awesome.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61846 #61890 07:00 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    LOL
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61848 #61891 07:02 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    yeah we heard that i fully understand and i wanna help with that at some point
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61851 #61892 07:13 PM, 24 Nov 2020
    I really don't want anything to do with centralization but it helps the scalpers with liquidation lol
  • 25 November 2020 (7 messages)
  • @nonfungible_john ↶ Reply to #61906 #61907 12:30 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    Thanks for confirming that Munehisa - No one likes dead horses :) And I don't want to push one particular view (centralized thought?) but rather invite a conversation. I much prefer Conterparty to all the cryptoart platforms and seek it's growth and proper recognition. I do help with the Bit20 index - an informational service - and it warmed my heart to see XCP in the genesis index.
  • @nonfungible_john #61909 12:44 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    That's the coolest thing. CP has tools like dispensers - helpful for everyday users who want to buy a chunk with ease.
  • @nonfungible_john #61912 12:49 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    Unfortunately without open markets and an arbitrage mechanism it's like reading tea leaves. That's why in my humble opinion automatic markets are so critical. If anyone knows HEX (it's not super interesting use case but) it rocketed into top 20 market cap briefly with 50% of its trade volume from a Uniswap market. Those are conceptually similar to dispensers - except bidirectional with dynamic pricing.
  • @nonfungible_john #61913 12:50 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    It may be a meme project but I have to respect a trustless market like that. I like free markets vs. gatekeepers.
  • @1078446567 #61926 06:20 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    when does the unconfirmedBalance become 0?
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #61914 #61928 10:41 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    what does swap yields mean?👀👀✍️
  • @OoakosiMo #61932 11:14 AM, 25 Nov 2020
    is it the farming and shards something
  • 26 November 2020 (25 messages)
  • @XCERXCP #61970 02:14 PM, 26 Nov 2020

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  • @XCERXCP #61971 02:17 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    No better way to build an open KYC network for Bitcoin than on CP. I think this is very bullish for CP.
  • @XCERXCP #61972 02:17 PM, 26 Nov 2020

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  • @XCERXCP #61973 02:27 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    I’ve had a theory for a while that the 🇺🇸 government has its eyes on CP.

    These big companies don’t need to ask permission to build this KYC network.

    They issue their own coin on CP that identifies they have KYC a non custodian Bitcoin wallet.

    The other cos decide what KYC coins they decide to trust.

    They send the asset to the burn address associated with the wallet and the sent asset is stored forever to that Bitcoin burn wallet’s address.

    The asset held in the burn address Identifies that that non custodian Bitcoin wallet has been KYC by which particular party.

    When other custodian Bitcoin wallet users want to send to a non custodian wallet, the co simply runs a search for that non custodian Bitcoin wallet to identify if any KYC tokens they trust are held in that wallets burn address.

    If the trust is a match, the custodian Bitcoin wallet can send, if not, it’s prohibited.
  • @XCERXCP #61979 02:28 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    Ha open protocol, do as you please.

    It’s the reality.
  • @XCERXCP #61984 02:30 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    I’m lucky to be from the USA, if I wasn’t, I’d probably have that view.
  • @XCERXCP #61988 02:31 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    Na, I’m lucky for sure.
  • @OoakosiMo #61990 02:33 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    sticker (7).webp
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #61975 #61991 02:36 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    The money is still separate from state issued currency.

    They just want to know where it is going .

    They were never going to continue to allow Bitcoin to operate in its current state.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61974 #61993 02:41 PM, 26 Nov 2020

    mp4.mp4

  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61986 #61994 02:42 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    LOL
  • @XCERXCP #61995 02:42 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    If a KYC network needs to be built, I’d prefer it be built with CP than other crypto.
  • @XCERXCP #61996 02:43 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    The only way we’ll ever reach mainstream wall street is by following the laws of the government.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61991 #61997 02:45 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    but why its no their finances it the people's money why know where they are spending it
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61995 #61998 02:46 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    i prefer anything with cp but not kyc
  • @XCERXCP #61999 02:47 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    The same reason why you have to claim over $10k in cash if coming from another country.

    They want to know where your money is coming from so they can tax it and know you’re not funding illegal operations or threats.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62000 02:47 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    that indoctrination is too strong with ppl who want to make nice with governments
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #61999 #62001 02:49 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    its not the case, they just don't want you to spend money with certain countries period
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62002 02:50 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    we know that some countries are bullies (no names) and want to dictate where you spend your money
  • @XCERXCP #62003 02:52 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    Ofcourse.

    They are trying to maintain their power.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62003 #62004 02:55 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    and why would anyone want to feed that
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62005 02:56 PM, 26 Nov 2020

    mp4.mp4

  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62006 03:03 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    hope you know that all governments have you as apart of their trust and the trust law they have is statutory contract (colorable law). all paper money is fake (colorable) notes tied to that contract which is why you have UCC codes and why if you knew these things in any country you wouldn't want centralized debt paper and or cards that promote going back under colorable contract.
  • @nonfungible_john ↶ Reply to #61999 #62018 07:02 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    I think they lowered this significantly
  • @nonfungible_john #62019 07:03 PM, 26 Nov 2020
    https://www.fincen.gov/resources/statutes-regulations/guidance/funds-travel-regulations-questions-answers - and proposed new rule is $250
  • 27 November 2020 (21 messages)
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62035 #62040 04:04 AM, 27 Nov 2020
    Exactly
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62042 04:06 AM, 27 Nov 2020
    But according to most governments that have a constitution the audit of privately held assets is illegal which is why the SEC can't find a way to pass laws on it so the only why to stop you is by them breaking the law
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62043 04:07 AM, 27 Nov 2020
    Or making you pay more taxes going back into paper
  • @XCERXCP #62079 02:22 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    They still can’t take the money away though. Bank, they confiscate your funds.

    I know most people here are against this, but I’m all for it.

    This is the most possible bullish case for XCP IMO.

    If you ever want to see the vision of stocks, bonds, equities, etc live and be protected by Bitcoin using CP, this was a law that was always going to happen.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62079 #62080 02:25 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Obviously I see things differently but this is not the only method I'm currently working on something that literally proves that this doesn't have to happen nor does kyc
  • @XCERXCP #62081 02:25 PM, 27 Nov 2020

    photo_2020-11-27_14-25-11.jpg
  • @XCERXCP #62082 02:25 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Honestly, what is a better way to KYC Bitcoin address than this right here
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62081 #62083 02:25 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Second time you're showing this guess you're shilling at this point
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62082 #62084 02:26 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Everything
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62085 02:26 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    The reason bitcoin was created is so that ppl don't need it
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62086 02:26 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Here come humans bringing the control right back to where we were taken away from 🤦🏽‍♂
  • @XCERXCP #62087 02:27 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Bitcoin was created so you can stop
    governments from destroying your worth with inflation.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62087 #62088 02:28 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    And also the control over ones funds and assets by making them private without a name on the wallet
  • @XCERXCP #62089 02:29 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Control, owning the key.
  • @XCERXCP #62090 02:29 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Private, no. Bitcoin is the least private system possible.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62091 02:29 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    So you think you control cause you own your key if you give the info away lol
  • @XCERXCP #62092 02:30 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    Yes. You do.
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 ↶ Reply to #62090 #62093 02:31 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    OK then so you own an asset and to tell ppl all you hold especially the ppl that control the market your name and address and if the don't want to spend even if you have your keys you can't buy a thing
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62094 02:31 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    That's super smart!
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62095 02:32 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    All they have to do is just starve you out and wait
  • @h4xor_f0r_Lif3 #62096 02:32 PM, 27 Nov 2020
    You have this kyc thing all figured out
  • 28 November 2020 (2 messages)
  • @XCERXCP #62215 02:01 PM, 28 Nov 2020
    Nice job with the updates, CP seems to be running nicely!
  • @XCERXCP #62216 05:20 PM, 28 Nov 2020
    https://www.xprotectx.com/post/bitcoin-so-much-more-than-a-currency
    Bitcoin, so much more than a currency.

    Everyone likes to talk about Bitcoin the money, but Bitcoin is truly more than that. First and foremost, Bitcoin only has value because of its security. After all, if the network wasn’t properly secured, theft would be easy. If theft was easy, nobody would buy Bitcoin and Bitcoin would be worthless. Bitcoin is the worl

  • 29 November 2020 (1 messages)
  • @OoakosiMo #62269 01:04 PM, 29 Nov 2020
    sticker (7).webp
  • 30 November 2020 (9 messages)
  • @1106860935 #62296 12:39 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    This is exactly what I teach my students
  • @1106860935 #62297 12:39 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    Also exactly how I am two steps ahead
  • @1106860935 ↶ Reply to #62216 #62299 12:41 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    These are the tools to the proper perspective. I call it looking glass
  • @1106860935 #62300 12:49 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    Xcer. Smarter than the average 🐻
  • @1106860935 #62301 12:49 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    Nice theory!!
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #62298 #62302 01:51 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    tiger resting
  • @OoakosiMo ↶ Reply to #62326 #62327 11:26 AM, 30 Nov 2020
    😁😁
  • @maxherbertwest #62372 10:39 PM, 30 Nov 2020
    sticker (7).webp
  • @maxherbertwest #62373 10:39 PM, 30 Nov 2020
    Wasuuup
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