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  • 21 February 2024 (56 messages)
  • @6582567944 #230517 07:12 AM, 21 Feb 2024

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  • @6582567944 #230518 07:14 AM, 21 Feb 2024
    I am having this error while creating an order, any solution please
  • @camzjamz #230519 07:33 AM, 21 Feb 2024
    ive gotten that too. sometimes you have to close the wallet, wait a minute, then restart the wallet and do the action again
  • @6582567944 ↶ Reply to #230519 #230520 08:43 AM, 21 Feb 2024
    Well I tried those actions many times even I Logout the wallet and input the phrase again but this issue still resists
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230520 #230521 08:46 AM, 21 Feb 2024
    Can we see your order, I’m curious what the 0 is.
  • @PowerHODL17 #230523 10:32 AM, 21 Feb 2024
    @droplister check dms ser 👀
  • @7081547939 #230524 11:29 AM, 21 Feb 2024
    thanks
  • @6370143984 #230527 02:52 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Banging away at performance: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/1437
    Replace `bitcoinlib` by `block_parser` to deserialize transaction by ouziel-slama · Pull Request #1437 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib

    Simpler, faster (uses dicts instead of classes) and well tested with kickstart. This will allow for cleaner code by using the same functions everywhere and improve the kickstart speed by 10% (this ...

  • @H_M_L9 ↶ Reply to #174593 #230528 03:02 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    🔖,
    Duly.
  • @6582567944 ↶ Reply to #230521 #230530 05:26 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Got fixed finally, don’t know how but been trying again and again
  • @jsteezy1 #230531 05:41 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    is xcpswap possible in future? Like a uniswap style xcp/btc pool? Would be an upgrade on dispensers.
  • @ffmad ↶ Reply to #230531 #230532 05:47 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    I doubt it can be done with BTC
  • @teysol #230533 06:02 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    we're designing atomic swaps between all counterparty assets and BTC. it can be done!
  • @teysol #230534 06:05 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    @herpenstein figured out how to do it.* just working out the details
  • @6370143984 #230535 06:24 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Indeed, the community owes a debt of gratitude to the inimitable Derp Herpenstein.
  • @6370143984 #230536 06:27 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    For the curious: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/discussions/134
    PSBT Support via attaching assets to UTXOs · CounterpartyXCP/cips · Discussion #134

    CIP: XXX Title: PSBT Support via attaching assets to UTXOs Author: Derp Herpenstein Discussions-To: ?? Status: Draft Type: ?? Created: 2024-1-26 Definitions PSBT - Partially signed bitcoin transact...

  • @Jpcryptos #230537 06:30 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    🙏🙏
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #230533 #230538 06:30 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    ...and Ordinals
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230538 #230539 06:43 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Someone’s casually dropping a bombshell here!
  • @PPCFTW1 ↶ Reply to #230533 #230540 06:55 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    i was asking about this, back in 2017 i think
  • @PPCFTW1 #230541 06:55 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    cool its being worked on
  • @PPCFTW1 #230542 06:55 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    "how much did you donate bruh" i dunno i think less than 300$
  • @PPCFTW1 #230543 06:56 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    wait no it was 2019 in msgs with jdog
  • @PPCFTW1 #230544 06:57 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    https://www.hazama.indiesquare this is down now but it was something related to that
  • @herpenstein ↶ Reply to #230535 #230545 07:21 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Definitely not an original idea. All I did was put together the high level concept for how to make it work with counterparty assets.
  • @herpenstein #230546 07:23 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    If I’m not mistaken, colored coins did something like this a long time ago
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #230545 #230547 07:42 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    We're all Derp.
  • @herpenstein #230548 07:50 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    i also think @hodlencoinfield has a similar idea last year.
  • @herpenstein #230549 07:51 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    I just want to see counterparty be the number 1 use case on Bitcoin
  • @6370143984 #230550 07:52 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    but ser we're only following in Ordinals footsteps
  • @herpenstein #230551 07:52 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    I also think we can have txs be 1/10 thé cost and paid for in XCP with a witness data based layer 1 rollup, but the details on that aren’t as clear yet
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #230550 #230552 07:52 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    I hear that one day they may even have a dex
  • @herpenstein ↶ Reply to #230552 #230553 07:54 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    In 300 lines of code, counterparty could have and x*y>=k automatic market maker that doesn’t require a custodian
  • @herpenstein #230554 07:55 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    The math is simple and there’s many implementations to work from
  • @herpenstein #230555 07:56 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    The biggest sticking point would be designing a system to mitigate sandwich based MEV, but there are certainly ways to do it
  • @mikeinspace #230556 07:57 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Wow, that would be a great opportunity to roll-out the new logo.

    photo_2024-02-21_19-57-04.jpg
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #225112 #230557 08:00 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    @mikeinspace need a post office in there.
  • @teysol ↶ Reply to #230551 #230558 08:16 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    yes! would love to hear your design for this when it's ready :)
  • @DeFi_Hold #230559 08:45 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    https://twitter.com/brian_trollz/status/1760338060745625746?t=yMvptbtnk2o4RXspejuBwg&s=19

    Covered by Bitcoin Magazine

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  • @NorthrnSatosh #230560 09:03 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    https://bitcoinmagazine.com/press-releases/bitcoin-magazine-editorial-policy-on-bitcoin-layer-2s-l2s
    Bitcoin Magazine Editorial Policy On Bitcoin Layer 2s

    Bitcoin Magazine's editorial policy concerning coverage of layer two protocols built on the Bitcoin network.

  • @NorthrnSatosh #230561 09:03 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    For sure an interesting article
  • @NorthrnSatosh #230562 09:03 PM, 21 Feb 2024

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  • @NorthrnSatosh ↶ Reply to #230562 #230563 09:04 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    I see the stacks guys full blown in defence over this statement
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230545 #230564 09:04 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Would this potentially open up the dex to ordinals too or would it be something else entirely?
  • @NorthrnSatosh #230565 09:05 PM, 21 Feb 2024

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  • @6370143984 #230566 09:05 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    so funny, the core devs used to deride counterparty as a parasite protocol
  • @NorthrnSatosh #230567 09:08 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    So by definition CounterParty is valid for Bitcoin Magazine coverage.
  • @NorthrnSatosh #230568 09:08 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    lightening also a valid L2
  • @teysol #230569 09:21 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    yeah afaik Stacks would also keep working Bitcoin disappeared
  • @teysol #230570 09:21 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    disqualifying it
  • @herpenstein ↶ Reply to #230564 #230571 09:28 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Potentially. Need some insight from PSBT power users on how to accomplish something like that. It’s a bit over my head at this point
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #230566 #230572 09:33 PM, 21 Feb 2024
    Funny the guy who invented ivermectin in which kills parasites was named satoshi
  • 22 February 2024 (53 messages)
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230551 #230574 06:12 AM, 22 Feb 2024
    This would be insane
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230572 #230576 10:15 AM, 22 Feb 2024
    Apparently it also kills your sperm
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230572 #230577 10:16 AM, 22 Feb 2024
    https://open.substack.com/pub/timtruth/p/ivermectin-vs-sperm-3-disturbing?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
    Ivermectin VS Sperm: 3 Disturbing Studies On Decreased Sperm Counts, Decreased Sperm Motility & Increased % Abnormal Sperm Post-Ivermectin

    Bad signs for Ivermectin's effects on male fertility!

  • @978879797 #230578 10:17 AM, 22 Feb 2024
    There is no virus brother
  • @LongbranchBear #230579 01:13 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I wonder, if there was an ability to turn an asset back into xcp, if that would be a positive feature
  • @LongbranchBear #230580 01:13 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Probably not
  • @LongbranchBear #230581 01:14 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Typing out loud
  • @Niftyboss1 #230582 01:27 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    How would that be different from the DEX
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230582 #230583 01:29 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I think he means if you issued an asset, you can return it back for XCP
  • @DeFi_Hold ↶ Reply to #230576 #230584 01:53 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    That's why there is AI
    Artificial Insemination 🤣
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230579 #230585 03:28 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Trading of asset names would be fun
  • @XCERXCP #230586 03:29 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I really like JPs random dispensing dispenser, that also be really fun
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230586 #230587 05:25 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Like a big slot machine?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230587 #230588 05:42 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Ha basically
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230587 #230589 05:43 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    The dispenser owner would be able fill the dispenser with multiple cards
  • @LongbranchBear ↶ Reply to #230583 #230590 06:10 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Haha yeah. Wishing I had more xcp rn
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230590 #230591 07:18 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Do you want to buy my Mesothelioma asset
  • @6370143984 #230592 09:04 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Hi all, we are making really good progress on performance, but are being tripped up by a few things. In particular, in 9.61 a feature was added that allows a dispense to be triggered by every tx output: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/1222

    This feature, *by design*, has extremely severe implications on performance. As it was released quite recently, we would like to know who is using it, and whether it'd cause a furor if we removed it in order to drastically increase parsing speed.

    I know not everyone who uses Counterparty lives on Telegram or this particular channel at least, so please ask around. Thanks!
    allow triggering of dispensers by all tx outputs, not just the first output by pataegrillo · Pull Request #1222 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib

    Counterparty Protocol Reference Implementation. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230592 #230593 09:07 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Is that this? https://www.xcp.dev/tx/81ad764fcc147623df3a927f3323b9ca87154951f4b3617189d8c8c63fb4123e
    Someone has been hitting multiple XCP dispensers in one tx
  • @6370143984 #230594 09:09 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I think so. This feature just came to my attention today, so it'd be good if someone else more familiar with it could confirm.
  • @6370143984 #230595 09:11 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    It requires us to run the extremely expensive is_dispensible() call on *every tx output*
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230596 09:12 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Outside of what appears to be one person, I have not noticed it being used.
  • @6370143984 #230597 09:12 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    ok tyvm
  • @6370143984 #230598 09:13 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    really appreciate it. if you find anyone else using it please post here!
  • @Tap912 #230599 09:13 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    New feature rolled out in October 2023

    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/1222
    allow triggering of dispensers by all tx outputs, not just the first output by pataegrillo · Pull Request #1222 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib

    Counterparty Protocol Reference Implementation. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @6370143984 #230600 09:14 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    alright cool. Will wait for dispenser guru @Niftyboss1 to weigh in.
  • @ffmad #230601 09:16 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    This would explain why syncing became so, so, slow lately
  • @6370143984 #230602 09:18 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    yeah :/
  • @Niftyboss1 #230603 09:26 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I’ve experimented with this feature, and I know only 2 buyers who have been using it a few times, but if it’s such a performance disaster, i think disabling it makes great sense!

    As long as it doesn’t impact past dispenses, that is!
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #230594 #230604 09:31 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    In the Freewallet Support chat..... I would say almost no people we speak with have used this feature.... I kinda didnt even know it existed.... (and we've been publicly solving/documenting issues in there for about 6 months now)

    reading into it, looks like JPJA had some issues with it and maybe it should be reconsidered as a CIP and implemented in a different way
  • @6370143984 #230605 09:32 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I'd argue that if a CIP wasn't included to add it and very few people are using it then having a CIP to remove it is... overkill.
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #230605 #230606 09:32 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    nono i mean having a CIP to formally discuss it.... should have happened in the first place
  • @davesta #230607 09:32 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    not a CIP to remove it.... but thats just my opinion.... not much use for it in my world.... just my 2 sats
  • @davesta #230608 09:36 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    though with Dan's new proof of concept website for XCP functions it does seem like there is a few of these functions in the protocol that basically never get used.... for instance the historical "Rock Paper Scissors" function:

    photo_2024-02-22_21-36-20.jpg
  • @davesta #230609 09:36 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    its the first ive seen data on each function before!
  • @6370143984 #230610 09:37 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    yeah xcp.io is super cool 🙂
  • @6370143984 #230611 09:38 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    really appreciate everyone weighing in so quickly. super helpful!
  • @ffmad #230612 09:41 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    This is really great news if you've found the problem 👑
  • @ffmad #230613 09:41 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I just gave up on syncing my node a few weeks ago
  • @ffmad #230614 09:42 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    I'm probably not the only one
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #230612 #230615 09:45 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    'the' is doing a lot of work here lol
  • @6370143984 #230616 09:45 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    definitely _a_ problem. worth noting that I got up to block 700k in 12 hours yesterday!
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #230616 #230617 09:47 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    knowing RobotLoveCoffee is looking into this (and makes amazing tutorials) I can easily see a future that if getting a node up is easier and has good easy documentation on how to do so...... MANY MANY of the people (especially OG's) in the community will happily start running a node
  • @davesta #230618 09:48 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    thanks to all of yall for being so active recently.... the github issues looks so clean and organized now its quite a treat to follow the improvements!
  • @6370143984 #230619 09:49 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Adam's a weirdo who gets a distinct aesthetic pleasure out of a clean issues backlog lol.
  • @6370143984 #230620 09:49 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    when he would do it at our company people would say he was trimming his bonzai tree
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #230619 #230621 09:49 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    us users get a distinct aesthetic pleasure out of it too

    photo_2024-02-22_21-49-47.jpg
  • @davesta #230622 09:49 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    the milestones page is so freakin nice
  • @6370143984 #230623 09:50 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    ah it's so great that people are watching GH!
  • @6370143984 #230624 09:52 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    Okay slightly different question: what's the use-case for allowing a tx output other than the 1st one to trigger a dispense?
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #230593 #230625 09:55 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    i would assume it would be cheaper dispenses by multi-sending BTC to multiple places instead of sending BTC individually

    and with this tx - looks like it would be used to sweep up the floor of XCP in one tx instead of multiple
  • @6370143984 #230626 09:56 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    sorry, it's the difference between 'any' and 'all'
  • @6370143984 #230627 09:56 PM, 22 Feb 2024
    as of 9.61 _all_ tx outputs could trigger a dispense but before than any (one(?)) tx output could trigger a dispense.
  • 23 February 2024 (196 messages)
  • @6335079134 #230631 12:57 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    When the api went down month or two ago I’ve had a few stamps I can’t access bc they are on address two of a wallet. Imported into a few diff wallets but only shows wallet 1. Anyone have any thoughts?
  • @6335079134 #230632 12:58 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    all I am really looking to do is access and transfer
  • @JanThomasewsky #230634 02:19 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    how i can put the image of icon in my asset?
  • @JanThomasewsky #230635 02:19 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    i was trying change the xcp icon to change the XCP icon for my logo
  • @JanThomasewsky #230636 02:20 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    but idk how to do it in Testnet
  • @NorthrnSatosh ↶ Reply to #230593 #230637 02:36 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Ummm.. this sounds like the cart tool
  • @NorthrnSatosh #230638 02:36 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Triggering more then 1 Dispenser with 1 TX?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230592 #230639 07:16 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    I vote kill it if it’s slowing you guys down and only being used by a handful of users.
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230639 #230640 07:32 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Second that 👍

    Periwig Perhaps a good idea to provide a few days’ notice before disabling the feature?
  • @jp_janssen ↶ Reply to #230606 #230641 07:40 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    I don't think a cip is necessary to remove it. A github issue is sufficient imo.

    It was implemented under the assumption of NOT increasing parsing time, which turns out to be false.

    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/issues/1148
    Just 1st dispenser dispenses when batch-sending sats to multiple dispensers · Issue #1148 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib

    This is the transaction (generated with a simple blue wallet) https://blockstream.info/tx/11eb2b730e2e383a657c51d7b04bd55271d1e86ac9a2c74d3e3f6c78e88e23ff where correct exact sats were sent to 5 di...

  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230593 #230642 08:13 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    but this has been working for ages right?
  • @stackbtc #230643 08:14 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    you can send to multiple dispensers using electrum "pay to many" send function.
    address, amount
    address, amount
    and etc.
    each address and amount from the new line.
    new electrum updates will not let you to send zero. means op_returns has to be executed with version 4.3.4
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230643 #230644 08:15 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Apparently the dispenser logic only read the first output of a tx before
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230645 08:15 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    It seems backwards to me
  • @stackbtc #230646 08:16 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    if someone will need help with electrum+counterparty just ping me and ill walk thru 😊
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230647 08:16 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    If a wallet has an incoming transaction, you’d think it wouldn’t matter where it’s located within a transaction
  • @6370143984 #230648 08:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Ouziel says this is not the case.
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230646 #230649 08:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    So you’ve been the buyer using it? (I would have guessed that)
  • @6370143984 #230650 08:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Since the beginning he said that _any_ output could trigger a dispense.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230649 #230651 08:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    recently ?
  • @stackbtc #230652 08:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    nope not me.
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #230650 #230653 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    but since 9.61 _all_ outputs could trigger one.
  • @stackbtc #230654 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    but i have used this to buy other assets
  • @stackbtc #230655 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    and it works
  • @stackbtc #230656 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    i am sure it works.
  • @stackbtc #230657 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    i can show example of the dispenses
  • @stackbtc #230658 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    but in private.
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230651 #230659 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Yeah, someone has been sweeping dispensers using multiple outputs in one tx
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230659 #230660 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    message me
  • @stackbtc #230661 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    ill show 20 assets dispense
  • @6370143984 #230662 08:18 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    It'd certainly increase performance if we could restrict it to only the first output, but could cause problems for wallets that work around the API e.g.
  • @6370143984 #230663 08:22 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    in principle we could do some fancy tx construction stuff to have only the 1st output trigger a dispense but I think it'd always be possible to work around that, so it could result in something tantamount to 'rugspenser'
  • @stackbtc #230664 08:26 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    to everyone who is having a coffee right now, here is a good read:

    https://github.com/stampchain-io/stamps/blob/main/OLGA.md

    i am very bulish to be honest, i love the idea and my merits goes for cip33 artefacts 🙏🔥
    stamps/OLGA.md at main · stampchain-io/stamps

    Contribute to stampchain-io/stamps development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @6370143984 #230665 08:28 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    If dispensers had been designed from day 1 only to check the first tx output it'd be a different story, of course...

    Conceptually, dispensers break the interface between Counterparty and Bitcoin in a fundamental way and the impact of that is increased by certain decisions made in their design.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230664 #230666 09:19 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    BTW, stamps team was not the first to test this tech, and feedbacks came from the people who did. not including prefix of FILE: to be as official is a disrespect to the early adopters. All the data is on BTC anyway, for me the assets with FILE: prefix will always stay the first ones in cip33 fields.

    in short words cip33 got attention just because some people released cips33 with file: prefix and shared on-chain results.
    show us some respect, or else we will have to create our own parser indexer that would show CORRECT data :)

    i am good to donate for the development of course (message me).
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230666 #230667 09:27 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Do you think they care about your file prefix
  • @XCERXCP #230669 09:31 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    But if JP is happy, that’s all that matters since he’s the inventor
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230667 #230670 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Do you think i care of what they think lol?
  • @stackbtc #230671 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    data is on bitcoin
  • @stackbtc #230672 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    no brainer
  • @stackbtc #230673 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    opinion stay as opinion, proof is on BTC
  • @stackbtc #230674 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    we can argue all day long
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230669 #230675 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    i "tested" fields with thousands of dollars on mainnet
  • @stackbtc #230676 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    they saw its a cool tech
  • @stackbtc #230677 09:33 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    and now they will "start" as first people , right?
  • @stackbtc #230678 09:34 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    is that you want to tell me ? :)
  • @stackbtc #230679 09:34 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    my thausands of dollars i spent on those UTXO's are "not official" ? :D
  • @XCERXCP #230680 09:34 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    I’d say File is the first
  • @stackbtc #230681 09:34 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    for me they are as official as they can be, its on btc like i said.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230680 #230682 09:35 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    because they are first cip33's truly
  • @stackbtc #230683 09:36 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    btw can someone help with a quick picture of server settings for FW?
  • @stackbtc #230684 09:36 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    getting stuck "last updated 2 days ago"
  • @stackbtc #230685 09:37 AM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_09-37-19.jpg
  • @stackbtc #230686 09:38 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    or should i try coindaddy server?
  • @stackbtc #230687 09:45 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    http://platform.counterparty.io/
  • @stackbtc #230688 09:46 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    ahhh not me alone, most of servers are down today.
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230683 #230689 09:47 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    Can’t check my settings right now but try changing host4.xchain.io to xchain.io and you should be good
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230689 #230690 09:48 AM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_09-48-27.jpg
  • @stackbtc #230691 09:48 AM, 23 Feb 2024

    vacation.mp4

  • @stackbtc #230692 09:48 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    thanks
  • @jp_janssen ↶ Reply to #230669 #230693 10:21 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    My view is laissez-faire. I gave the algo to the public domain. It is not like I can (or should) tell people what to do.

    That said, I really appreciate the first ones to explore cip33. They took on risk by burning sats through a (by then) unrecognized encoding method.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230693 #230694 10:27 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    That’s very nice of you
  • @stackbtc #230695 10:41 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    JPJA is legend
  • @stackbtc #230696 10:41 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    sticker (10).webp
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230693 #230697 10:55 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    what comes to your electrum+op_return tool. i have made about 7k transactions using it. i can say it works. just about everytime haha. i can not imagine my life without it
  • @stackbtc #230698 10:56 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    sticker (10).webp
  • @682780739 ↶ Reply to #230697 #230699 11:16 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    How can I create an OP_RETURN TX with the Electrum all version support?
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230699 #230700 11:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    4.3.4 version only
  • @stackbtc #230701 11:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    as OP_return would be sending "0" btc
  • @stackbtc #230702 11:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    and new version see it as "dust" and would reject
  • @stackbtc #230703 11:17 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    i use 4.3.4 electrum + https://jpja.github.io/Electrum-Counterparty/
  • @682780739 ↶ Reply to #230703 #230704 11:30 AM, 23 Feb 2024
    thanks
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230693 #230705 01:30 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i just dont get the "activation" idea.
    its like they will ignore UTXO's lol?
    its all about what do we index right?
    people are too lazy to verify. they will lazy trust on the words.
    If Mike said 833000 block is first, means its first
  • @stackbtc #230706 01:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    there were no NFTs before ordinals right? why not to take this as reality. we can simply ignore the rare pepes too and pretend ordinals were first ever jpegs on the screens
  • @stackbtc #230707 01:32 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    sticker (10).webp
  • @stackbtc #230708 01:32 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    if you want to activate it you have to send me 1btc
  • @stackbtc #230709 01:34 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    if they had those first assets.. oh boy.. they would find time, strenght and braveness to implement file: prefix too
  • @stackbtc #230710 01:35 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    but it is more simplier to ignore the ones who tested the tech first and start over like nothing happen. require less labor and time. sure you do it :)
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230705 #230711 01:35 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Stamps use the STAMP prefix. If you’re mad about it, start your own indexer.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230711 #230712 01:35 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    then dont write "avtivated"
  • @stackbtc #230713 01:35 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    and dont sell them ass first
  • @stackbtc #230714 01:36 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    if i see someone selling cat in a bag
  • @stackbtc #230715 01:36 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    ill come shouting
  • @stackbtc #230716 01:36 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    sticker (10).webp
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230713 #230717 01:36 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Who said they are first? We literally gave credit to JP
  • @stackbtc #230718 01:36 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    we keep the first ones. we fully deserved.
  • @stackbtc #230719 01:36 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i even helped others to strike first files
  • @stackbtc #230720 01:37 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    and i respect those people who took a risk to join on the "blind" attempt
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230719 #230721 01:37 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Cool. Then why do you want to be in the 300,000 range of stamps? Be first in your own indexer
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230721 #230722 01:37 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    oh i have a lot stamps
  • @stackbtc #230723 01:37 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    minted shitloads of early stamps too
  • @stackbtc #230724 01:38 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i love the tech its all good with it
  • @stackbtc #230725 01:38 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    and of course you are the boss at your project
  • @stackbtc #230726 01:38 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i cant impact on your decisions much
  • @stackbtc #230727 01:38 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i hope you will do your best :) good luck guys
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230723 #230728 01:38 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Yeah I even sold you a few and then bought them back from you on scarce city for 1/10th the price. Thanks for that. Flipped a few a second time for even more.
  • @stackbtc #230729 01:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    yeah thats me
  • @stackbtc #230730 01:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    you see i am a good guy
  • @stackbtc #230731 01:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i just sent you thousands of bucks back hhaaa
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230730 #230732 01:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Well you did go on an angry tirade on the scarce city chat once with no evidence at all
  • @stackbtc #230733 01:40 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    amitabh-bachchan-indian-actor.mp4

  • @mikeinspace #230734 01:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Anyways, the OLGA activation was to prevent renumbering. No different than data:base64 should those be valid too? Stamps have always had a STAMP prefix. Your stuff uses FILE
  • @stackbtc #230735 01:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    it was not related to tech back then. but more of how friendly the tg community was. it is not actual at the moment .)
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230734 #230736 01:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    yep but cip33 was coded to use file
  • @stackbtc #230737 01:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    ok but i got you
  • @stackbtc #230738 01:42 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    as i said. your project , you are the boss
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230736 #230739 01:42 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    We’re not using CIP33. We forked it with JP’s blessing
  • @stackbtc #230740 01:42 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    our opinion means nothing to you. and i know jpja and few others will help of indexing "file" prefix too
  • @stackbtc #230741 01:42 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    cip33s files will see a daylight sooner or later
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230738 #230742 01:42 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Not even correct. I’m not a coder. Kevin picked the block height as he needs to actually maintain a code base
  • @stackbtc #230743 01:43 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Anyway, as more stampers strike cip33s as better
  • @stackbtc #230744 01:43 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    so i dont mind you guys to strike them 1 million on the first day
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230741 #230745 01:43 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    And this is actually in your best interest. Why would you want to be stamp #299387 rather than file #1?
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230745 #230746 01:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    you are right
  • @stackbtc #230747 01:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    probably another directory would be best
  • @stackbtc #230748 01:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    we talked about this "join or separete" question , always had positives and negatives answers
  • @stackbtc #230749 01:45 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    probably the desicion you made will come for the better of everyone
  • @stackbtc #230750 01:46 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    we live and see
  • @stackbtc #230751 01:46 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    good luck the devs and the team and thanks for this new tech JPJA. it is realy the most friendly way to store on utxo's. go green - use olga stamps
  • @mikeinspace #230752 01:59 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Interested to see if anyone is playing around with Slipstream. Craft a transaction with a HUGE OP_RETURN payload? Craft a transaction with bare multsig outputs below the dust limit? A lot of possibilities...

    https://x.com/MarathonDH/status/1760760062442627084?s=20
    Marathon Digital Holdings (NASDAQ: MARA) (@MarathonDH) on X

    Today’s non-standard transactions often get excluded from the collective mempool, even if they adhere to consensus rules. Via Slipstream, users can submit directly to Marathon, avoid confirmation delays, and expedite its processing onto a public Bitcoin block.

  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230752 #230753 02:00 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    wow thanks for sharing this
  • @Vizique #230754 03:25 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I see a LOT of XCP being bought wholesale.... whats the skinny? Someone knows something LOL
  • @Vizique #230755 04:19 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    ... shoulda bought more ....
  • @Niftyboss1 #230756 04:26 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Funny how XCP just turned 10 and yet we’re still early
  • @6370143984 #230757 04:28 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    "we're still early" has been tainted by bitcoiners and ethereum(ers?) who say that whenever some clunky UX hiccup causes someone to lose money lol
  • @Vizique #230758 04:28 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    fun fact: its also true
  • @Vizique #230759 04:30 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    We ARE still early.
    The amount of full time developers in the space as a whole, the amount of apps and services available across the entire spectrum ... all still in their infancy ... why?
    Cos all this is not even 12-13 years old yet....

    annoying but true... time is required and while the demand may be NOW, the ability to deliver to that demand is not as high ..

    so yeah ... still early is a sad and blunt fact ...
  • @6370143984 #230760 04:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    oh yeah i wasn't trying to get into a whole thing just pointing out a funny sort of knee-jerk reaction that the community has to bad news.
  • @Vizique #230761 04:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    but as the financial incentives grow so does the pool of skill and resource :)
  • @Vizique #230762 04:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    agreed, it can be very emotive sometimes
  • @Vizique #230763 04:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    but then money always makes people cranky
  • @Vizique #230764 04:32 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    and some people over leverage themselves with their enthusiasm and get themselves wrapped up in a situation they want resolved "now" ... c'est la vie LOL
  • @honkhonnk #230765 04:53 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    how are folks arriving at an XCP price exactly at the moment? I see 5.41 posted in freewallet, 8.80 on coinmarketcap based off like 1500 bucks of trading volume on zaif.
  • @XCERXCP #230766 04:54 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    The price is $10.60

    Lowest dispensers, dex trade
  • @honkhonnk #230767 04:54 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I on dex trade XCP doesn't populate when searched for
  • @XCERXCP #230768 04:54 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Xchain is dextrades last price
  • @XCERXCP #230769 04:54 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Go to cmc, XCP, markets
  • @XCERXCP #230770 04:54 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Click that link
  • @XCERXCP #230771 04:55 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    https://dex-trade.com/spot/trading/XCPBTC
    Link

    Buy Bitcoin and Crypto, trade over 500+ coins, stake, try demo trading, and get soaked in play2earn games. Welcome to the cryptocurrency exchange of the free

  • @honkhonnk #230772 04:56 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    thanks - on their home page if you just type XCP it doesn't come up
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230772 #230773 05:08 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I’ve noticed that
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230766 #230776 07:11 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Dispensers are probably a good indicator..........I look at the price area where there are the most large dispensers.
  • @honkhonnk #230777 07:17 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    anyone else seeing no dispensers listed on freewallet?
  • @honkhonnk #230778 07:17 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    for XCP
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230754 #230779 07:17 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_19-17-51.jpg
  • @honkhonnk #230780 07:18 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_19-18-33.jpg
  • @honkhonnk #230781 07:18 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    it looks like the wallet is glitched out ever since I updated
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230771 #230782 07:20 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_19-20-36.jpg
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230755 #230783 07:22 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_19-22-25.jpg
  • @benchbtc ↶ Reply to #230781 #230784 07:22 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    https://www.xcp.io/asset/XCP#dispensers
    Link

    Detailed insights into Counterparty assets and their activities.

  • @mnlclassic #230785 07:23 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    People are scrambling pepe sell orders to get xcp
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230785 #230786 07:25 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Starting to feel like the dark horse of 2024 🐉
  • @camzjamz ↶ Reply to #230785 #230787 07:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    i am doing this for sure lol
  • @6370143984 ↶ Reply to #230785 #230788 07:31 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    in 2014 this is not a sentence I anticipated anyone writing.
  • @6370143984 #230789 07:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    same energy

    photo_2024-02-23_19-39-11.jpg
  • @honkhonnk #230790 07:43 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    pssshhh - who's reporting anything to the IRS.
  • @al_fernandz #230791 07:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    sticker (10).webp
  • @al_fernandz #230792 07:47 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    BTC ---> XCP (Leveraged BTC) ----> PEPES (Leveraged XCP)
    -----X <- we are entering this phase
  • @davesta #230793 07:48 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    BTC ---> XCP (Leveraged BTC) ----> PEPES (Leveraged XCP)
    -----COCO (leveraged Artist assets) ——— PSBT <- we are entering this phase
  • @davesta #230794 07:48 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    laughing-scut-farkus.mp4

  • @camzjamz ↶ Reply to #230787 #230795 08:06 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Though I’m merely trying to distribute for xcp, not really selling anything I only have one of. Opportunity cost would be too high
  • @honkhonnk #230796 10:02 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    the person with 500 XCP dispensing .1 XCP slightly below market - how do you sleep at night? I looked through some of the tx history and the accounts they have transacted with and it appears to be a stamper, no pepe's in the wallet they sent to a few months ago - go figure. Stamps equals scammers.
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #230796 #230797 10:04 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Chyyyyna
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230796 #230799 11:00 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    If they couldn't sleep at night, they wouldn't be doing it.

    People with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) or psychopathy tend to have a lack of remorse for their actions or empathy for others.
  • @Mandingo1969 #230800 11:16 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    you get that psychology assessment from a guy selling xcp at market prices?
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230800 #230802 11:18 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I think the assertion is they are selling at 10X market prices (by deceptively dispensing .1 XCP instead of 1 XCP).
  • @Mandingo1969 #230803 11:20 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    so someone is buying xcp at 10x market price?
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230803 #230805 11:23 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_23-23-21.jpg
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230803 #230806 11:24 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    As shown above, someone is deceptively selling 0.1 XCP at slightly below the price others are selling 1 XCP.

    Clearly they are hoping someone in a hurry to buy will send funds to the dispenser without noticing they will only receive 1/10 the amount they think they are buying.
  • @Mandingo1969 #230807 11:25 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    or maybe he thinks thats how much there worth to him
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230807 #230808 11:28 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I'd be interested to hear if any other people here think that is a convincing explanation of that dispenser.
  • @Mandingo1969 #230809 11:29 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    your right he's probably a psycho
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230809 #230810 11:34 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Apparently there are a number of psychological disorders in which the person lacks empathy for others, lacks remorse for hurting others, is comfortable telling lies/deceiving others, etc.

    Unfortunately empaths have trouble imagining this sort of personality and have to learn about it through the painful experience of dealing with them (and hopefully studying the subject a bit to learn how to protect themselves).
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230807 #230811 11:37 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    IMHO this explanation (subjective sense of value of an item) is reasonable for an authentic piece of rare art, antique, rare pepe, etc., but not for an essentially fungible currency/commodity like XCP, BTC, gold, etc.
  • @honkhonnk #230812 11:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    that dispenser was set up 4 days ago to be exactly below present prices and try to trick someone - no doubt
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230805 #230813 11:39 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Xchain now shows an alert on results pages. Not sure why that alert isn’t shown directly on the dispenser pages. That would solve the issue 99% of the time.
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230813 #230814 11:40 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Could you send a screenshot? I hadn't heard of that.
  • @Mandingo1969 #230815 11:40 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    it turns yellow doesnt it
  • @NorthrnSatosh #230816 11:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    https://www.ledger.com/academy/glossary/bitcoin-stamps
    Bitcoin Stamps Meaning | Ledger

    Bitcoin stamps define the technique of embedding metadata within Bitcoin transaction outputs.

  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230814 #230817 11:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-23_23-41-43.jpg
  • @6370143984 #230818 11:41 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    >Bitcoin stamps define the technique of embedding metadata within Bitcoin transaction outputs.
    lol
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230818 #230819 11:42 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Oh god the misinformation is terrible. It’s often sounds like it was written by ChatGPT
  • @6370143984 #230820 11:43 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    lol it's all good, important to be able to laugh about this stuff
  • @honkhonnk #230821 11:43 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Mike are you in contact with Chris Derose at all?
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230821 #230822 11:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    No
  • @mikeinspace #230823 11:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I believe he’s still on TG, so it’s not like he can’t be contacted
  • @Mandingo1969 #230824 11:44 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    You were right Munehisa,we shall call the person that set up that dispenser the xcp bandit
  • @honkhonnk #230825 11:45 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    his podcast was the best but been dormant for a few years - does he still have a TG chat? if so you know the name?
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230825 #230826 11:45 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Not that I’m aware of. He went radio silent years ago
  • @honkhonnk #230827 11:47 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I thought it was called the briar patch or something like that but can't find it
  • @Mandingo1969 #230828 11:47 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    no the briar patch is the beer gardens at a curling bonspiel
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230827 #230829 11:48 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Yeah that existed at one point. He deleted it
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230821 #230830 11:54 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    I was just remembering him and Bitcoin Uncensored. Those guys were entertaining.
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230817 #230831 11:55 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    Freewallet doesn't do that when I look at the dispensers. Any idea how this works?
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230831 #230832 11:58 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    idk about freewallet, just commenting on xchain
  • @mikeinspace #230833 11:58 PM, 23 Feb 2024
    It works by highlighting any xcp dispenser that isn’t for 1.0, I imagine
  • 24 February 2024 (216 messages)
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230833 #230834 12:04 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    OK, yeah I saw that. Thank you.
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230817 #230835 12:11 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    OK, so I've noticed the dispensers are displayed in green, pink, and yellow.

    Clearly the yellow is a warning, but what is the difference between the pink and green dispensers?

    photo_2024-02-24_00-11-19.jpg
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #230835 #230836 12:11 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Pink means it’s closed
  • @978879797 #230837 12:11 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Thanks man.
  • @mikeinspace #230838 12:12 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Really a soft red
  • @5712915075 #230839 12:31 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    ☁️☁️ ☁️ 100usdt ☁️
    ☁️ ☁️ 🚀
    ☁️ * ☁️
    *
    ☁️ *
    *
    *
    *
    *
    XCP
    🌎
    🚀🚀🚀Lets go to the moon!
  • @5712915075 #230840 12:34 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    XCP is more valuable than ORDI
  • @Vizique ↶ Reply to #230840 #230841 12:34 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    The natural order is returning ...
  • @camzjamz #230842 12:52 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    yo ordi is 1.2 billion market cap
  • @camzjamz #230843 12:52 AM, 24 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-24_00-52-51.jpg
  • @camzjamz #230844 12:52 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    xcp 26 million rofl
  • @camzjamz #230845 12:53 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    is ordi to ordinals as xcp to counterparty?
  • @978879797 #230846 01:08 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    XCP could 10x and still be cheap
  • @978879797 #230847 01:15 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Back in 2015 XCP was ranked in the top 20 of market cap —- maybe the OGs will take us back there again!

    photo_2024-02-24_01-15-43.jpg
  • @Mandingo1969 #230848 01:16 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    so that psycho with the xcp dispenser could be right
  • @honkhonnk ↶ Reply to #230848 #230849 01:21 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    since you're sympathetic to his pricing scheme, I suggest you buy some of his XCP and show support to his endeavors
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230847 #230850 01:29 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    *IF* XCP were to return to the top 20 market cap ranking —- that would give XCP a market cap in excess of $5 billion.

    Which translates to an XCP price of $1923........

    Obviously not a prediction, closer to a dream, but why not..........the OGs are back and new developments are just over the horizon.
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230850 #230851 01:33 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Bitcoin cash is still in the top 20 😜.
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230851 #230852 01:33 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Seems like some of the competition is pretty soft.......
  • @honkhonnk ↶ Reply to #230850 #230853 01:34 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    https://xchain.io/address/1LhEGAPUZnfNDbh7oFogdekUyTW8NBfW3ghttps://xchain.io/address/1LhEGAPUZnfNDbh7oFogdekUyTW8NBfW3g
  • @honkhonnk #230854 01:34 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    that wallet would be worth over 300 million if that were the case
  • @978879797 #230855 01:35 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Whoa…… beyond lamboland
  • @978879797 #230856 02:10 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GpkI0FtzhE
    All the Bitches Love Me

    Be Alpha

  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230851 #230857 02:31 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Can anyone think of a reason the next generation counterparty will not kick bitcoincash’s arse?
  • @NicolasSierro #230858 03:47 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    updated for NFT Paris : https://blockchainizator.com/media/PEPETHESOG_the-legend_making-of_2024.gif (promotion of Counterparty in the 1st image)
    None
  • @978879797 #230859 06:50 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    So quiet in here…. Everyone wondering how to get a serious XCP bag before the fireworks start? 🤔
  • @978879797 #230860 07:19 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    For those who missed it:

    Counterparty's Past & Future
    Jan. 27, 2024

    Adam Krellenstein returns to Counterparty after a 9-year hiatus. We dig into Counterparty's current and future state with one of its OG founders.

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Z4WrP6PNXg7aPd0Alu3qj?si=u8zldYx0Q463C3k9tD3-xQ&nd=1&dlsi=419a32bcb88448a1
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230860 #230861 07:20 AM, 24 Feb 2024

    photo_2024-02-24_07-20-26.jpg
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230850 #230862 07:58 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    That 100:1 supply change would mean it’d be $19.23

    I think it would help people’s unit bias even at today’s low market cap. $10 feels expensive for a “shitcoin”. 10¢ feels more likely to give a 10x or a 100x return
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230862 #230863 08:02 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    I really like this idea
  • @1707933909 #230865 08:58 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    If we go down that route then it should be in place before this milestone IMO otherwise it will be a bit more complicated

    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/milestone/14
    Exchange Support Milestone · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib

    Counterparty Protocol Reference Implementation. Contribute to CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230865 #230866 09:08 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    This certainly seems like a vote by XCP holders would make sense with this
  • @XCERXCP #230867 09:09 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Let’s hold an XCP vote
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230868 09:14 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    What are good counterarguments? One I think of is the perception of centralization
  • @mnlclassic #230869 09:15 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Credibility
  • @mnlclassic #230870 09:16 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    It might look bad, even if there's nothing wrong with it
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230868 #230871 09:17 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    The same is true for Bitcoin too with its changes?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230870 #230872 09:17 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Look bad to who?
  • @XCERXCP #230873 09:18 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    With a gas system, do users really want to be dealing in 0.00001
  • @1707933909 #230874 09:21 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    The simple argument is that the total supply is very limited to start with and with everything planned with CP going forward including gas, a stock split just makes a lot of sense.

    CP has historically taken protocol decisions in good faith and not to enrich its founders or holders. It should continue to do so when it makes most sense
  • @1707933909 #230875 09:26 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Even the ability for cheaper transactions will require xcp. Therefore the use cases support the need for greater supply.

    Doing it before we improve liquidity puts us above aboard for any enriching accusations and avoids complications on a centralised exchange
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230871 #230876 09:29 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Imagine if Bitcoin did this and suddenly max supply is 2.1 billion
  • @pommedeterre #230877 09:53 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    hello to everyone , can i use dex-trade even without kyc ? wanted to buy some XCP
  • @pommedeterre #230878 09:53 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    also which wallet do you reccomend to use to store XCP?
  • @Tap912 #230879 09:55 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    freewallet.io No KYC necessary
  • @Tap912 #230880 09:56 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    You can also use rarepepewallet.com
  • @pommedeterre ↶ Reply to #230879 #230881 10:01 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    ok thanks i will use one of these wallets
  • @pommedeterre #230882 10:01 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    and for buy? can i use dex trade without kyc ?
  • @pommedeterre #230883 10:01 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    i just wanted to buy 100 counterparty
  • @Niftyboss1 #230884 10:03 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    FYI this (safe) dispenser would be the easiest option to buy 100 XCP:

    https://xchain.io/tx/55a29b2b7fb81821a70c599d0c376c3c0d44a51059c4d95c4513a7b86a3a04ee -- 0.00023500 -- 100 XCP

    Simply send 0.023500 btc from FreeWallet, instantly receive 100 XCP - no delays, no KYC
  • @mnlclassic ↶ Reply to #230877 #230885 10:11 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Yeah, there's no kyc on there
  • @davesta ↶ Reply to #230868 #230886 10:14 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Counterargument is you can simply decrease XCP fees if price goes up
  • @davesta #230887 10:15 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    where it once cost 0.5 xcp for an asset it could cost 0.05 or 0.005
  • @682780739 #230888 10:15 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    CP need Design a new Dynamic GAS Mechanism like ethereum use XCP as GAS
  • @davesta #230889 10:15 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    xcp is the gas mechanism
  • @davesta #230890 10:16 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    btc tx is the gas
  • @5712915075 ↶ Reply to #230884 #230891 11:40 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Why is there only this one today?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230876 #230893 11:46 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Would you care if you received the same percentage Bitcoin?
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230891 #230894 11:52 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    Will post a full list shortly
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230893 #230895 11:57 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    The 21M is such a powerful meme that I would care. There’s some technical reasoning behind it too that might require the decimals to be shifted left two spaces, but that may no longer be an issue.
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230896 11:58 AM, 24 Feb 2024
    I’m wondering if all open DEx orders would automatically adjust too. It’d be tragic if they suddenly became 100x cheaper.
  • @mnlclassic #230897 12:00 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I doubt it would be 100x cheaper
  • @c0rnh0li0 ↶ Reply to #230897 #230898 12:02 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    If something listed at 100 XCP would be able to be purchased by someone who had 1 XCP before the adjustment, it’d be 100x cheaper
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230899 12:02 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    https://x.com/iiicapital/status/1761044580269703376
    Joe Burnett (🔑)³ (@IIICapital) on X

    Satoshi Nakamoto supported adjusting #bitcoin's decimal places, similar to a stock split. 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 bitcoin

  • @c0rnh0li0 #230900 12:04 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Interesting to open up X and see this pop up at the top of my feed
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230901 12:04 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I don’t even follow them
  • @c0rnh0li0 #230902 12:04 PM, 24 Feb 2024

    tin-foil-hat-simpsons.mp4

  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230883 #230903 01:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Dude go heavy, at least get 1000枚 if not 10,000枚
  • @Niftyboss1 #230904 02:03 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Updated - 2499 XCP available on verified dispensers

    https://xchain.io/tx/55a29b2b7fb81821a70c599d0c376c3c0d44a51059c4d95c4513a7b86a3a04ee -- 0.00023500 -- 100 XCP
    https://xchain.io/tx/c98087b834e56d9446400482a6e0895e6fc0b041b7f464619d62b421925dbdec -- 0.00027900 -- 1994 XCP
    https://xchain.io/tx/b2102bc89a08a52e024bb4d1a5ca1e940db0a8d7771711c944c36953c393bd66 -- 0.00028500 -- 150 XCP
    https://xchain.io/tx/7daaf24a0ad002a9545e3996b0b5684338f61365ddf620ca0f2beacc80c899dd -- 0.00029987 -- 255 XCP

    - As always just DM me if any questions or issues with these dispensers
    - Dispenser operators, just DM me with a link to your dispenser to get reviewed/verified
    - Note that larger sizes are also available OTC - most common are 2,000 XCP batches - hit me up for more info
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230904 #230905 02:10 PM, 24 Feb 2024
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230904 #230906 02:11 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Once the 0.00027900 -- 1994 XCP gets taken out it's going to get interesting.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #230899 #230907 02:14 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    That’s crazy
  • @978879797 #230908 02:15 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LKVWmsC2CQ
    I love my PepeCash

    This song was created by anonymous pepecash fans guided by Kek. Buy Pepecash on http://TuxExchange.com or on the DEX through RarePepeWallet.com

  • @6370143984 #230909 02:17 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I understand that with potential upcoming changes to the platform there may be value in multiplying by 100x the total supply, but you can also just use smaller denominations like mXCP (.001 XCP) or 'counts' or 'counters' for .00000001 XCP
  • @pommedeterre ↶ Reply to #230884 #230910 02:18 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    thanks nifty !
  • @pommedeterre ↶ Reply to #230909 #230911 02:18 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    which upcoming changes are in plan for XCP?
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230911 #230912 02:19 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    It's all here:

    Counterparty's Past & Future
    Jan. 27, 2024

    Adam Krellenstein returns to Counterparty after a 9-year hiatus. We dig into Counterparty's current and future state with one of its OG founders.

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Z4WrP6PNXg7aPd0Alu3qj?si=u8zldYx0Q463C3k9tD3-xQ&nd=1&dlsi=419a32bcb88448a1
  • @6370143984 #230913 02:21 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    to be clear, counterparty is decentralized and therefore 'roadmaps' of the kind that you see with other cryptocurrencies don't make a whole ton of sense for Counterparty, but it's fair to say that atomic swaps will very likely be supported, and I personally would like to see programmability added to Counterparty, using XCP as gas.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230906 #230914 02:38 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    the floor i see is 0.0002 per xcp
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230905 #230915 02:40 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Good question! There are probably several reasons and I don't know them all, but I did notice a clear decrease in the rate of new XCP dispensers created per month
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230915 #230916 02:43 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Funky 😅

    I’m generally in favor of transparent public markets rather than dark pools:

    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/050614/introduction-dark-pools.asp
    An Introduction to Dark Pools

    Dark pools are private exchanges for trading securities that are not accessible by the investing public.

  • @Arvik78 #230917 02:55 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    *autist

    How close am I?

    photo_2024-02-24_14-55-37.jpg
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230904 #230918 02:58 PM, 24 Feb 2024
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230904 #230919 03:03 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Sipping wine so apologies for the directness of my comment here.......

    I was just about to say, "one day a whale is going to come in here and empty all the verified dispensers"

    But then I realized

    That would be more like a

    "Rainbow trout"

    or

    "Black bass"

    There is not enough XCP in there to feed even a baby whale.....
  • @978879797 #230920 03:04 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    The storm is coming.........
  • @978879797 #230921 03:04 PM, 24 Feb 2024

    strike-x.mp4

  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230918 #230922 03:05 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    That's probably a question sellers can answer better than myself! But I did notice that large buyers (especially newcomers) are often reluctant to use dispensers for large amounts

    And there *is* actually one verified 2k XCP dispenser currently available (@ 27900 sat, 1994 xcp remaining)
  • @6370143984 #230923 03:05 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    plot twist: niftyboss is all the sellers
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230922 #230924 03:09 PM, 24 Feb 2024
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230922 #230925 03:09 PM, 24 Feb 2024
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230923 #230926 03:11 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I wonder how many 2000 XCP batches he would make available and at what price?

    Love the detective novel angle......
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230926 #230927 03:12 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    image_2024-02-24_16-12-22.png
  • @Niftyboss1 #230928 03:12 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Just kidding :)
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230925 #230929 03:14 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I've read a good article about OTC markets the other day - will post it if I can find it again
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230927 #230930 03:14 PM, 24 Feb 2024

    shaboom-boom.mp4

  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #230929 #230931 03:15 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Honestly I don't know much about dark pools or trust them — I've always traded in transparent markets.
  • @6370143984 #230932 03:17 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Counterparty is a little small for darkpools 😁
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #230924 #230933 03:17 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I think rug risk is exactly the same, since dispensers are not trustless unfortunately
  • @Niftyboss1 #230934 03:18 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    In both cases, only engage in a trade if you trust the seller
  • @Niftyboss1 #230935 03:21 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    The great thing is, with upcoming atomic swaps and other platform improvements, I think Counterparty is heading towards much more transparency this year
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230934 #230936 03:22 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    i know what you mean, but isn't it opposite of what bitcoin should be for? isnt the movent just because we dont want to trust anyone? i can not believe that in 2024 we still need to trust someone
  • @stackbtc #230937 03:22 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    we can easily use multisig on trades , no?
  • @stackbtc #230938 03:22 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    presented in 2010 if im not mistaken
  • @6370143984 #230939 03:22 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    @herpenstein has written about this extensively.
  • @stackbtc #230940 03:22 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    14 years ago it were solutions already
  • @stackbtc #230941 03:22 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    and we still need to trust Joe from who knows where
  • @stackbtc #230942 03:23 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    just my two satoshi
  • @6370143984 #230943 03:23 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I suggest you read this: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/discussions/134
    PSBT Support via attaching assets to UTXOs · CounterpartyXCP/cips · Discussion #134

    CIP: XXX Title: PSBT Support via attaching assets to UTXOs Author: Derp Herpenstein Discussions-To: ?? Status: Draft Type: ?? Created: 2024-1-26 Definitions PSBT - Partially signed bitcoin transact...

  • @stackbtc #230944 03:24 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    if there is no solutions of how to trade - better is not to trade.
  • @stackbtc #230945 03:24 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    no brainer.
  • @6370143984 #230946 03:24 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I don't know how you got that from the link I shared
  • @6370143984 #230947 03:25 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Counterparty has had a decentralized exchange since it was released.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230947 #230948 03:25 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    and you still have to trust someone to use it
  • @stackbtc #230949 03:25 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    thats where im coming from
  • @6370143984 #230950 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    that is incorrect
  • @stackbtc #230951 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    lol
  • @stackbtc #230952 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    sure sure
  • @6370143984 #230953 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    you are conflating dex with dispensers
  • @stackbtc #230954 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    orders can be rugged
  • @stackbtc #230955 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    dispensers too
  • @stackbtc #230956 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    wallet also
  • @stackbtc #230957 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    we have where to improve believe me
  • @6370143984 #230958 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    dispensers *by design* cannot be trustless
  • @stackbtc #230959 03:26 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    they can lol
  • @stackbtc #230960 03:27 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    they just built with mistakes
  • @stackbtc #230961 03:27 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    and it is normal to make mistakes, we live and learn.
  • @6370143984 #230962 03:28 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    that's a nice generality but I don't think it applies in this case.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230958 #230963 03:28 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    ok then what about disclaimer ?
  • @stackbtc #230964 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    write this in front of my eyes when buying
  • @6370143984 #230965 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    you want the blockchain to write something in front of your eyes?
  • @stackbtc #230966 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    "dont trust what you see until you know the anon you are buying from"
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230965 #230967 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    blockchain?
  • @stackbtc #230968 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    or website?
  • @6370143984 #230969 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    dispensers are a blockchain application
  • @6370143984 #230970 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I do not run a website
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230969 #230971 03:29 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    indexed where?
  • @Niftyboss1 #230972 03:30 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    always good to keep in mind that xchain/freewallet is not counterparty
  • @stackbtc #230973 03:30 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    i bet we have to go somewhere to see them
  • @stackbtc #230974 03:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    there are some crucial mistakes that can be fixed
  • @stackbtc #230975 03:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    i know i was testing orders
  • @stackbtc #230976 03:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    to find out that after 80 blocks (if im not mistaken) it went expire
  • @stackbtc #230977 03:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    and jumped to the second buyer in a row
  • @stackbtc #230978 03:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    making my btc to vanish
  • @stackbtc #230979 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    its a huge nonsense making my payment to expire
  • @6370143984 #230980 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    There is a limitation in Counterparty's interoperability with Bitcoin.
  • @6370143984 #230981 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Derp found a way to fix that
  • @stackbtc #230982 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    such thing should not exist. after the node see the tx it has to be rserved UNTIL IT DROPS OR CONFIRMS
  • @stackbtc #230983 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    one of two
  • @stackbtc #230984 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    if the seller cant wait. he can spend the btc
  • @stackbtc #230985 03:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    making CPFP
  • @6370143984 #230986 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    If you have an actual issue maybe instead of WRITING IN CAPS you can post it on github.
  • @stackbtc #230987 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    but to leave gap to make a btc loss is nonsense
  • @6370143984 #230988 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    you aren't coherenty explaining your problem. If you found a bug in the btcpay logic please make an issue on GitHub
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230986 #230989 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    im not paid for doing that
  • @6370143984 #230990 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    ...
  • @stackbtc #230991 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    also i dont see any bounty campaigns
  • @6370143984 #230992 03:33 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    neither am i
  • @stackbtc #230993 03:34 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    so ?
  • @stackbtc #230994 03:34 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    you have to understand that what you ask is labor
  • @6370143984 #230995 03:34 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    if you find a project that will pay you for filing issues on github then you should spend your time on that project
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #230995 #230996 03:34 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    lol
  • @stackbtc #230997 03:34 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    thats called a job man
  • @stackbtc #230998 03:34 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    what does surprice you of saying that i will not spend my time on something for free?
  • @stackbtc #230999 03:35 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    at least i dont ask donations before any improvements
  • @stackbtc #231000 03:35 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    i also gave you a hint:
  • @stackbtc #231001 03:35 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    multisignatures
  • @6370143984 #231002 03:35 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    i have no idea what you're talking about but you're being needlessly rude and are speaking in ignorance of actual development
  • @6370143984 #231003 03:36 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Thanks for the hint. I will not pay you to file issues on GitHub.
  • @stackbtc ↶ Reply to #231002 #231004 03:36 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    my perspective is:

    i would pay 0.0001 to open dispenser just later to find out that it is not trusted just because people are refered to some third party verification list?
  • @stackbtc #231005 03:37 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    do we need that?
  • @stackbtc #231006 03:37 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    there is no need of such things.
  • @6370143984 #231007 03:37 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I am not being paid to respond to you.
  • @stackbtc #231008 03:37 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    i was not texting to you at all lol
  • @stackbtc #231009 03:37 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    sticker (10).webp
  • @stackbtc #231010 03:38 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    what i am saying you should better focus on finding a solution that we could buy without in need to trust someone. thanks
  • @stackbtc #231011 03:39 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    BTC_pay if broadcasted should never ever expire
  • @stackbtc #231012 03:39 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    thats like first error you should go fixing . and it would be the best fix in last 5 years
  • @stackbtc #231013 03:40 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    show me a single merchant that would let your payment to expire if paid more than mempool everage fee and being cought by the nodes
  • @stackbtc #231014 03:40 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    show me a single other example.
  • @stackbtc #231015 03:41 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    all someone would need to lose btc when broadcasting btc_pay nowadays is for the network fees to surge and keep there for 80 blocks(could be more or less, cant remember exact number)
  • @stackbtc #231016 03:43 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    who have set the tx to expire and what was the reason for that? like what normal answer would come of why someone did that?
  • @Arvik78 #231017 03:43 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    How does TZORP tie in with XCP? 🤔
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #231007 #231018 03:44 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Lmao welcome to Stack
  • @Jpcryptos #231019 04:14 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Bro
  • @Jpcryptos #231020 04:14 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Just chill
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #231017 #231021 04:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I don’t think it does. It did at the beginning from what I’ve read.
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #231019 #231022 04:32 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Stack has no chill, he just randomly goes on rampages
  • @Vizique #231023 04:57 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Does he code?
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #230876 #231024 06:31 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Ya it’s def not a good look lol
  • @camzjamz ↶ Reply to #231024 #231025 06:45 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I’m personally fine with either option, but how would we determine whether it should be done? From what I’ve seen consensus is whatever the people with power on the GitHub decide
  • @camzjamz #231026 06:47 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I don’t mean to convey any negative connotation with that comment. Just wondering what options there are for determining changes
  • @6370143984 #231027 06:55 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Personally, I am generally opposed to coin voting, DAOs, etc. and think that bitcoin's informal governance/rough consensus works remarkably well
  • @6370143984 #231028 06:55 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    perfect is the enemy of the good and all that.
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #231029 #231030 08:12 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I have attached a screenshot from the original Bitcoin Whitepaper.

    photo_2024-02-24_20-12-24.jpg
  • @6370143984 #231031 08:13 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    It's not difficult to hear, but the software is in a terrible state and UX cannot come before we fix the things that nearly broke Counterparty.
  • @978879797 #231032 08:15 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    The following phrase is from the abstract of the bitcoin whitepaper on the first page:

    "the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending."

    Satoshi Nakamoto placed this here at a key cornerstone of the bitcoin project for a reason.

    It is uncomfortable to accept this reality, but we cannot solve a problem if we first do not face the reality that the problem exists.
  • @6370143984 #231033 08:15 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    ... I have read bitcoin's white paper.
  • @978879797 #231034 08:15 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    Bitcoin whitepaper - コピー.pdf
  • @6370143984 #231035 08:16 PM, 24 Feb 2024
    I think dispensers should never have been put onchain, among other reasons because they inherently rely on trust. Atomic swaps are an exciting alternative to dispensers which do not have any trust issues.

    I don't mean to be rude but a certain level of technical literacy _is_ required in order to understand the prioritization of issues.
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