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  • 27 January 2023 (112 messages)
  • @Vizique #189391 03:38 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    thoughts @jdogresorg ?
  • @B0BSmith #189392 03:39 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    if you use your seed on a second device does it work then?
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189393 03:39 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    I would have to dig back thru everything but it could be that the 1CCjp6pKDytKsru7AeQoRgDe68bN6fLj4t address was an imported address but once imported it should always stay with the wallet correct?
  • @B0BSmith #189394 03:40 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    I use my seed on 3 devices and all function fine
  • @MoparMiningLLC ↶ Reply to #189392 #189395 03:40 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    no. i tried that recently with my phone maybe a few weeks ago
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189396 03:40 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    and it never worked on my phone
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #189393 #189397 03:40 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    imported addresses are not derived from seed
  • @Vizique #189398 03:40 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    "but once imported it should always stay with the wallet correct?!

    no
  • @Vizique #189399 03:40 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    you would need the priv key to reimport
  • @B0BSmith #189400 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    re import your private key
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189401 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    gotta find it. i have never had it not show up
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189402 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    what would make it no longer be imported?
  • @Vizique #189403 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    logging out of FW
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189404 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    i log out every day
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189405 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    its always been there when i log back in
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #189393 #189406 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Not if you log out.
  • @Vizique #189407 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Closing it via the X is closing. Via the "power button icon" is logging out
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189408 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    yes i know
  • @B0BSmith #189409 03:41 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    seed is used to derive the same addresses in same order each time

    imported keys are separate from the seed backup
  • @Vizique #189410 03:42 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    ok, just making sure we on same page :)
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189411 03:42 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    cuz it asks every time if i wrote the phrase down
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189412 03:42 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    well either way it was always there
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189413 03:42 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    but if i recall it was an imported one.
  • @B0BSmith #189414 03:42 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    so re import and your problem will be solved
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189415 03:42 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    so now I just have to find where that was originally which might have been metamask
  • @B0BSmith #189416 03:43 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    your not backing up imported addresses by writing down your seed .. only seed derived addresses
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189417 03:44 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    well its never been gone before and I log out every time
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189418 03:44 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    and have never had to import it but the first time.
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189419 03:51 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    funny enough it was exactly 1 year ago today that I created and imported the address to freewallet and got my first xcp nft
  • @B0BSmith #189420 03:53 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    you need to use your seed/backup from the wallet you imported a private from to regenerate your private key and then re import that to freewallet to get it showing again
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189421 03:53 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    well that pk is gone i destroyed it after i imported it
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189391 #189422 03:53 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Passphrases don’t change on their own and the same 12-word passphrase should always generate the same addresses…. Not sure what ur issue is related to but it def is not something normal…. I use the same passphrase on multiple devices n desktops n all bring up the same addresses as expected.
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189423 03:53 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    i thought importing it was all i needed to do
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189424 03:54 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    so all the assets are lost
  • @B0BSmith #189425 03:54 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    sounds like it
  • @B0BSmith #189426 03:54 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    if you do not have the private key then you don't control the address
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189427 03:54 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    i imported the pk into freewallet
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189393 #189428 03:54 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Wrong! Once you reset a wallet or logout, you have to re-import any private keys not from the 12-word passphrase
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189429 03:54 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    thought it would stay in there
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189430 03:55 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    well i have logged out many times and have only ever entered the 12 word passphrase in the past
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189431 03:55 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    but the address 1CCjp6pKDytKsru7AeQoRgDe68bN6fLj4t was always in the address list as "imported"
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189432 03:55 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    to import you have to provide the key
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189433 03:55 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    so I imported the key and thought that was it.
  • @jdogresorg #189434 03:55 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Hrm… perhaps your on an old version of freewallet which didn’t fully reset address lists after logging out.
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189435 03:56 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    I do have an old version
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189436 03:56 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    it wont let me update it
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189437 03:56 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    when i click download it fails
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189438 03:56 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    either way i had that pk for all of maybe 10 mins from creation to import to fw to shred
  • @jdogresorg #189439 03:57 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Nowhere did anything tell u to import s private key once and then u were good forever…. It’s on u to keep your 12-word passphrase n private keys safe
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189437 #189440 03:57 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    So download it outside the wallet n install
  • @jdogresorg #189441 03:57 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    Freewallet.io
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189442 03:57 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    have tried
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189443 03:58 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    either way, i misunderstood the import
  • @jdogresorg #189444 03:59 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    sorry to hear that... an expensive lesson... but I bet you will always keep youre 12-word passphrases and private keys safe from now on going forward
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189445 03:59 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    not expensive really
  • @jdogresorg #189446 03:59 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    good
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189447 03:59 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    i didnt pay for any of the nfts
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189448 03:59 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    they were all gifts and i never sell anything bitcoin related
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189449 03:59 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    so i never would have sold em
  • @Niftyboss1 #189455 06:12 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    In case anyone is interested : a large buyer is currently willing to buy a bunch of XCP at 10200 sats
    One thing: They would prefer the seller to be a well-known dispenser operator
  • @ctramount #189456 06:35 PM, 27 Jan 2023
    https://pepeflyers.com/

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  • 28 January 2023 (29 messages)
  • @pedsky #189471 02:41 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Hi! my freewallet address has been missing BTC in the freewallet app interface but has the BTC according to xchain. NFTs are still there in both apps/web. been like this for days already :( how can i resolve this? :( thanks!
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189471 #189478 03:46 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Logout and relogin
  • @pedsky #189479 05:12 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Okok will try later. Thanks!
  • @pedsky #189480 06:31 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Didn’t work :(
  • @rarejay ↶ Reply to #189471 #189481 06:37 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    same issue with my wallet
  • @rarejay #189482 06:41 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    got this error on debug

    photo_2023-01-28_06-41-49.jpg
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189480 #189483 07:14 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    If want sent btc only can import to other wallet like electrum 😅. Maybe server freewallet maintenance
  • @Niftyboss1 #189484 09:01 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Updated - 2273 XCP available on verified dispensers

    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/673161a584d0c1a3865596f2924ee3611224ab8b2f371ec173b8ed2d16797715 -- 0.00011330 -- 1481 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/e83bb196d829c5ed01b974229b9233a034b3c615844eb1428aedba4c223d1c6b -- 0.00011450 -- 250 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/ab94cb0682ae669abb116ea8c0052483e3dcf841aaae9941282c5f87967bac82 -- 0.00012986 -- 173 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/7dabdf34681c7bcc10d84e26f0354ef9a68fc9c4f8a7bcc73bf8e1108fb263a2 -- 0.00013250 -- 100 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/b65ce9f3f4125a3d6fb9f18fdc113d1e4778320fd5a4c4e3c732bf205103acba -- 0.00014689 -- 254 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/2559c30b08c9e9187ae52b490ed26b4e8b7b1836c9fb1e44dcdd3a3664f9a994 -- 0.00017700 -- 15 XCP

    As always, just DM me for any issues or questions about the list
  • @c_sipuye #189485 11:10 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    50 Fake Commons for sale.

    https://pepe.wtf/1866tuqU7k/collection/fake-commons

    Interested persons should DM.
    Pepe Collection | Pepe.wtf

    Discover the universe of Rare Pepes

  • @pedsky #189490 11:34 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    My messages are being deleted
  • @lolipoop212 #189494 11:46 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Who delete ?
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #189490 #189495 11:46 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Before sending out after?
  • @c_sipuye #189496 11:49 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    @jdogresorg, I'm getting error sending multiple cards from my freewallet.

    photo_2023-01-28_11-49-09.jpg
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189496 #189497 11:51 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Cartman insufficient
  • @c_sipuye ↶ Reply to #189497 #189498 11:51 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    What's that?
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189498 #189499 11:52 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    I think u not enough CARTMAN for send
  • @c_sipuye #189500 11:53 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    No CARTMAN in what I'm sending but lemme recheck.
  • @glen0 ↶ Reply to #189496 #189501 11:55 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Yes you don't have enough or have 0 cartman
  • @c_sipuye ↶ Reply to #189499 #189502 11:56 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Thinks I saw CARTMANPEPE, a mistake. Thanks.
  • @c_sipuye ↶ Reply to #189501 #189503 11:56 AM, 28 Jan 2023
    Yes the name of the asset was incomplete.
  • @pedsky ↶ Reply to #189494 #189506 12:07 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    Someone d m me
  • @pedsky #189507 12:07 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    Trying to assist but I blocked
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #189507 #189508 12:09 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    you have to ask @jdogresorg for permissions to post links and dirty words
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189506 #189509 12:12 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    Lol. Right like @nutildah say you need dm jdog for permission link or forbidden word
  • @Salvadorbr1 ↶ Reply to #177799 #189510 12:15 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    How do it from freewallet desktop?
  • @whatsinaname888 ↶ Reply to #189510 #189511 12:20 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    click the dispenser link,send btc to that addy
  • @pedsky ↶ Reply to #189509 #189514 04:25 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    Haha okok
  • @ctramount #189515 06:35 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    🐸 🔊

    https://pepeflyers.com/

    PEPE_SNEAKER_CU_CLEAN_012623_MASTER_H264.mp4

  • @1687812108 #189516 09:53 PM, 28 Jan 2023
    looking for a NINJASUIT for 7eth
  • 29 January 2023 (7 messages)
  • @pedsky ↶ Reply to #189482 #189522 04:18 AM, 29 Jan 2023
    I think I have the same error. 70 errors and 1 issue hahahuhu
  • @pedsky #189523 04:18 AM, 29 Jan 2023
    same text
  • @Niftyboss1 #189526 09:52 AM, 29 Jan 2023
    Updated - 1984 XCP available on verified dispensers

    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/bb09498d3268985804b34ff493247276522fac8e00518e127c2273360563bef8 -- 0.00016490 -- 1300 XCP <<- CURRENT FLOOR
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/2559c30b08c9e9187ae52b490ed26b4e8b7b1836c9fb1e44dcdd3a3664f9a994 -- 0.00017700 -- 15 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/617cbff17c6c313a54874e2c8f1ecb2df12a458e674913044fb1c5025e4cb484 -- 0.00020570 -- 50 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/7daaf24a0ad002a9545e3996b0b5684338f61365ddf620ca0f2beacc80c899dd -- 0.00029987 -- 255 XCP
    https://host1.xchain.io/tx/27ab4d2377d0324feab40febe83199970d5911195b647c672939e9b694b56060 -- 0.00031000 -- 364 XCP

    As always, just DM me for any issues or questions about the list
  • @Adillbekk #189528 04:26 PM, 29 Jan 2023
    Hi guys! Can we try to make some effort to add Counterparty and Pepecash to some exchanges&
  • @Adillbekk #189529 04:29 PM, 29 Jan 2023
    https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-get-your-coin-listed-on-binance-com-053e4bdc48364343b863d1833618d8ba
    Binance Listing | How to List Your Coins on Binance | Binance Support

    Binance aims to provide more access to crypto and make the best efforts to list high-quality tokens. Learn more on how Binance listing of coins work.

  • @ctramount #189530 04:35 PM, 29 Jan 2023
    Pepes make you FLYE

    FLYE_Social.mp4

  • @ctramount #189531 04:36 PM, 29 Jan 2023
    FLYE is the genesis card of the Pepe Flyers Collection

    Purchase with Pepe Flyers V1 sneakers
    Drop updates 👇
    📎 https://pepeflyers.com/

    Animation by @viva_la_vandal
    Editing by @selectedcuts
  • 30 January 2023 (39 messages)
  • @masonmarcobello #189575 06:18 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    https://twitter.com/aradtski/status/1619585712558592001?s=20&t=RibgbInwk9uuH6B92oKqRg
    Link

    @masonmarcobello @GrennHouseGas Not the same, counterparty is completely different and doesn’t really sit inside the Bitcoin chain

  • @masonmarcobello #189576 06:18 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    ethereum people still have a bit to learn?
  • @masonmarcobello #189577 06:18 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    spreading misinformation
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam ↶ Reply to #189576 #189579 06:53 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    if they were capable of learning or forming rational thoughts, they wouldn't be ethtards
  • @masonmarcobello #189581 08:45 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    I guess… it’s sad that to curry favour people will just go along with whatever narrative is being shilled rather than pursuing objective facts
  • @masonmarcobello #189582 08:46 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    people that know can’t be bothered getting into twitter arguments or they’re too jaded
  • @masonmarcobello #189583 08:47 AM, 30 Jan 2023
    you wonder what these influencers are lacking irl to live (and get worshipped) on a social platform all day
  • @naeem2626 #189584 02:23 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    GONEREKT 33 supply FakeCommon

    lets grab historic piece for your wallet
    https://pepe.wtf/drops

    photo_2023-01-30_14-23-52.jpg
  • @mayarimun #189586 03:30 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    I am updating my description of https://xchain.io/asset/HONESTABE to change the image size from 2000x2800 to 800x1120 but idk what's happening but it doesn't change event I update the description twice, anyone can't help? tysm🙏

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  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #189586 #189587 03:48 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    This is a Collection card. Once a card is in a Collection the image is controlled by the Collection's master JSON image pointer.
  • @mikeinspace #189588 03:49 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    You can verify this by looking at the pointer. It's currently cached on xchain: https://xchain.io/img/cards/HONESTABE.jpg
    None
  • @mayarimun ↶ Reply to #189588 #189589 04:03 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Thank you!😊 so means, A collection admin has access to update the image size?
  • @mayarimun #189590 04:03 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    or dev?
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189589 #189591 04:06 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    images in projects should be submitted once, approved or rejected, and taht is it...... project artwork is not meant to change... as it is a MANUAL thing that has to be done on the servers..... when you submit artwork to a project, make sure it is the final artwork, cuz you wont be able to change it after the fact.
  • @1188620174 #189594 04:49 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    https://xchain.io/tx/9cb47da59f38634b95ea6b7ac4ab16d11559109a5fb02dda43e23d24d38afccc
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #189591 #189595 05:28 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    ok so once the card is added to my json file its locked resolution? Like say the card was done incorrectly then description was re-issued before I added to json file would it be ok at that point? Sorry I didnt realize this either
  • @jdogresorg #189596 05:38 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    I can manually remove the file from the db and file system on the xchain servers in special cases…. It it’s a manual thing, and already wasting time doing 5-10 of these “oops” mistake fixes a week… thinking of allowing projects 1-2 updates per month… then charging per update…. Like I said, it’s wasting a bunch of my time.
  • @jdogresorg #189597 05:40 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Not a big deal to fix every once in a while… but 30+ projects n the changes add up😜
  • @jdogresorg #189598 05:40 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Prolly should automate updates I spose… will add to my todo list
  • @pappyG45 #189599 05:41 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Ok but now that I understand it better should oy have a one time fix on a few from me
  • @pappyG45 #189600 05:42 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    But makes sense
  • @pappyG45 #189601 05:42 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    I was wondering if an artist went rogue and decided to update a file after the fact so your system works perfectly
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #189597 #189602 05:46 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    When the fix file token dispenser?
  • @CryptoDitz ↶ Reply to #189597 #189603 05:48 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    jdog the problem for me was the change that removed the high res version from auto displaying
  • @CryptoDitz #189604 05:49 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    this meant that I had to update the asset which meant yeah unfortunately to take your time
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189603 #189605 05:52 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    yeah... I stopped supporting html in asset descriptions months ago because it was a security issue automatically running user-provided HTML code.... tho with CIP25 you have a method to provide all the images / audio / video files you want, as well as provide custom HTML that can display your content exactly as you want.
  • @CryptoDitz #189606 05:52 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    I understand not wanting to display high res btw, just it meant that I need to update a few things
  • @jdogresorg #189607 05:53 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    had nothing to do with not wanting to display high-res images... had to do with the fact taht someone could inject javascript/html code into the description and have it automatically run in your browser.... big security hole... you still can do taht, but now I make the user click a button to run stuff rather than automatically doing so via description field.
  • @jdogresorg #189608 05:54 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    more about making things safe for users than trying to make it more difficult... sucks some stuff broke, but I did my best to write code to auto-translate old json to CIP25 and keep displaying content.... so the ONLY thing that should not be working is html in descriptions... unfortunately taht is where most people put their "click here for hi-res version" link... which no longer works.... but, the high res version should be linked below in the images section 🙂
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189599 #189609 05:54 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    just send me a DM with the assets you want me to update and i'll get it sorted 🙂
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189602 #189610 05:56 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    huh? not sure what your speaking of.... DM me or github link to issue pls
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #189610 #189611 05:58 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Ha no issue, a token people need to buy and redeem to request a file fix
  • @ctramount #189612 06:54 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    The Pepe Flyers V1 sale page is live for viewing

    25 hours to drop
    📎 https://pepeflyers.com/sales/pepe-flyers-v1

    photo_2023-01-30_18-54-32.jpg
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #189612 #189614 08:35 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Looks awesome
  • @1687812108 #189616 09:47 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    WTS EthereumCard
  • @AryanJab #189617 09:50 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    Hey all. Totally random reminder to be wary of scams, group chats and fake escrows. Scammers will try and convince you that a vetted member of the CP community is escrowing for you in a group chat when they're just that same scammer.
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #189612 #189618 11:30 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    What was the NFC chip tech they went with out of curiosity? I know of a few different methods. Also, how do sizes work... I'm assuming they aren't all one size
  • @ctramount ↶ Reply to #189618 #189619 11:35 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    @AryanJab can speak to the chip tech better

    Buyers input their size (US Mens) with their order
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #189619 #189620 11:37 PM, 30 Jan 2023
    https://arx.org/

    Scanner developed by Counterparty's 420th favorite developer.
    Arx • make crypto assets real

    Mint Authenticity.

  • 31 January 2023 (94 messages)
  • @masonmarcobello #189625 02:42 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Does anyone else feel like all this attention around ordinals is a concerted effort to drive attention away from counterparty?
  • @masonmarcobello #189626 02:42 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    They act as if nfts on Bitcoin didn’t exist before now
  • @masonmarcobello #189627 02:42 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    “NFTs”
  • @masonmarcobello #189628 02:43 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Or am I wrong in viewing it this way?
  • @AryanJab #189629 02:45 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Who's they here?
  • @masonmarcobello #189630 02:45 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    https://twitter.com/pourteaux/status/1612097050660724736?s=46&t=CGpFWssz0dY9ta3SPYFQ3A
    Link

    @jokoono counterparty uses OP_RETURN to create an L2. it also requires XCP token. Ordinals use the pre-existing identifiers of sats, that can be sent just like any other bitcoin transaction. the NFT can also be stored onchain using taproot witness data. (counterparty NFTs are off chain).

  • @AryanJab #189631 02:45 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Twitter is just going nuts because tx-size wars are bakc.
  • @masonmarcobello #189632 02:45 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    This guy for starters
  • @masonmarcobello #189633 02:46 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    https://twitter.com/rodarmor/status/1619954314428162052?s=46&t=CGpFWssz0dY9ta3SPYFQ3A
    Link

    oh no they figured it out

  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #189632 #189634 02:46 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Yeah, I mean, it makes for a good engaging tweet. Honestly, I think ordinals will be good for Counterparty as will spark NFT interest.
  • @masonmarcobello #189635 02:47 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Fair enough
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #189625 #189636 02:50 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    I think it’s gonna to the opposite
  • @pappyG45 #189637 02:51 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Ordinals gonna realize shit xcp works 10000x better and been around since 2014 kek
  • @masonmarcobello ↶ Reply to #189637 #189638 02:53 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Yeah it’s just frustrating to see people act like counterparty is “completely different” to Bitcoin 😂😂😂
  • @masonmarcobello #189639 02:53 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    And people believe them
  • @masonmarcobello #189640 02:54 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    But whatever
  • @pappyG45 #189641 02:54 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Good I want to still get more xcp and pepes before those idiots come over
  • @Vizique #189642 02:57 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Be https://xchain.io/asset/EXTRAORDINAL
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #189638 #189643 03:01 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Yeah, I see where the frustration comes from but that's just marketing. Spot the smallest difference and harp on it to get users.
  • @masonmarcobello ↶ Reply to #189643 #189644 03:05 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Rinse and repeat
  • @DEFSTALKR #189647 05:08 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Use the ordinals method to upload your content into the witness script on chain, then tokenize that with Counterparty. Best of both worlds.
  • @masonmarcobello ↶ Reply to #189647 #189648 05:37 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Yeah, I suppose so
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #189643 #189649 06:28 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    I think its highly interesting and informative, but the Porteaux article is 100% marketing for Ordinals. I read through it, saw that he made incorrect assertions about Counterparty (it has "fallen out of use") and OP_RETURN ("OP_RETURN is hardly used except when I write haikus or make protest statements"), but was still generally excited about it

    https://twitter.com/dogermint/status/1619363107259977728
  • @nutildah #189650 06:28 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Then the next day I see this

    photo_2023-01-31_06-28-47.jpg
  • @nutildah #189651 06:29 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    This is the article BTW if you haven't read it, its still a worthwhile read

    https://read.pourteaux.xyz/p/illegitimate-bitcoin-transactions
  • @TokyoYoshi #189652 06:44 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    How long before someone encodes porn or something worse using this taproot approach?
  • @TokyoYoshi #189653 06:45 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    At least counterparty separates the actual media from the tokens so there's a way to moderate content
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #189652 #189654 06:46 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Its already happened but in the form of links
  • @nutildah #189655 06:47 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    as early as 2013 or 2014 I think
  • @TokyoYoshi #189656 06:47 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Right, what about when it's actually illegal media embedded?
  • @nutildah #189657 06:47 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    The protocol that puts it together (the block explorer) can still censor it
  • @TokyoYoshi #189658 06:48 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    You think they're going to want to monitor things 24/7? That's a full time job
  • @nutildah #189659 06:49 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    No, but it will be the only way, just like content moderation on a social media platform
  • @nutildah #189660 06:49 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    except harder to make filters for probably
  • @TokyoYoshi #189661 06:49 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    This is going to be a shitshow
  • @nutildah #189662 06:51 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    not sure if you're aware but there's already some pretty disgusting x-rated stuff that displays on xchain 😅 its just buried beneath mountains of other tokens
  • @TokyoYoshi #189663 06:53 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Yeah, but it's not permanent, those images live on ephemeral servers not immutable Blockchains
  • @nutildah #189664 06:55 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    true. its an issue that will have to be addressed by the explorers.
  • @TokyoYoshi #189665 06:55 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Will be interesting for sure
  • @TokyoYoshi #189666 06:56 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    But ultimately I think counterparty has the better approach as an L2 protocol
  • @rarepepetrader ↶ Reply to #189528 #189667 06:58 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Who do you suggest should fund the Binance listing fees?
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #189666 #189668 07:02 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Agreed... I'm all for keeping the blockchain of reasonable size.

    If it becomes a big enough problem then there might actually be some kind of adjustment to disable it in the next release of Bitcoin Core.

    It won't be because lukedashj wanted it tho.
  • @TokyoYoshi #189669 07:05 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Just fyi tho, the data is being stored in the witness part of the taproot transaction, so it can be pruned by the nodes without any forking. Just like op_returns are pruned. So it's not a huge issue in terms of storage. It may make blocks fuller though, but that's fair play
  • @TokyoYoshi #189670 07:07 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    I have no issue with them highjacking taproot to store data. What I take issue with is thinking it will make for a good NFT platform
  • @nutildah #189671 07:10 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    good point
  • @TokyoYoshi #189672 07:10 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    There is potentially some drama around the fact that taproot witness data pays a discounted fee... But that goes off into technical minutia. If anything, that might be what gets adjusted if this takes off
  • @TokyoYoshi #189673 07:14 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    If not, counterparty should consider moving its data storage to taproot transactions as well to save on fees
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #189669 #189675 07:27 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    even when pruned, they are still transactions being recorded to the blockchain that wouldn't be there if the whole thing wasn't possible.

    it will be interesting to see if it achieves any modicum of popularity. if it does there may be some response from (active) developers. in which case changes to Counterparty would be hasty.
  • @masonmarcobello ↶ Reply to #189667 #189676 08:25 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Won’t be able to get on binance for a while even if there was a budget
  • @masonmarcobello #189677 08:26 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    They’re under a lot of regulatory pressure/scrutiny
  • @DEFSTALKR #189678 10:23 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    xcp on binance brings zero value imo.
  • @DEFSTALKR #189679 10:31 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    btw is sending btc from freewallet desktop to segwit address no longer working? i swear it used to...
  • @DEFSTALKR #189680 10:33 AM, 31 Jan 2023

    photo_2023-01-31_10-33-02.jpg
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #189652 #189681 10:47 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    It was done in the last 24 hours. Seems ordinals.com censored it though.
  • @AryanJab #189682 10:48 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Said censorship.
  • @nutildah #189684 10:51 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Wow that was fast 😅
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189679 #189685 11:10 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    Desktop browser?
  • @DEFSTALKR ↶ Reply to #189685 #189686 11:11 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    desktop app, not browser
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #189679 #189687 11:27 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    bc1q (segwit) is supported while bc1p (taproot) is not
  • @DEFSTALKR #189688 11:36 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    ahhh
  • @DEFSTALKR #189689 11:36 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    good pick up
  • @DEFSTALKR #189690 11:36 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    thanks.
  • @DEFSTALKR #189691 11:36 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    prob a good ‘request’ feature to add to the list then :D
  • @Vizique ↶ Reply to #189647 #189692 11:37 AM, 31 Jan 2023
    This is my plan
  • @ShawnLeary ↶ Reply to #189683 #189694 01:17 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    that's not an Ordinary rack
  • @Dekdoi474 #189695 01:54 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Excuse me, what marketplace om btc counterparty?
  • @lolipoop212 ↶ Reply to #189695 #189696 03:17 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    pepe.wtf , scarce.city , dispenser
  • @Dekdoi474 #189697 03:19 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Thx
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189687 #189698 04:08 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    yeah... no taproot support in freewallet yet.. not sure waht it'd take... will need to spend some time researching it
  • @RemsterB #189699 04:10 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    ONI DROOL updated to easy asset :)

    https://xchain.io/tx/6ad189b4db2468e279c1d5e6b87e0274bb68c339776777ea9f0cf131bd87dee0

    photo_2023-01-31_16-10-19.jpg
  • @hrpadrp #189701 05:22 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    hello- found KARMATOKEN in my old counterparty wallet, is it a scam or actually sellable?
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #189701 #189702 05:26 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    just had a quick look - there's been zero demand for this token as far as I can see
  • @hrpadrp #189704 05:29 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    hmmm, wonder where xchain is getting floor price from
  • @hrpadrp #189705 05:31 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    ah ok I can see a few historical orders on counterwallet- looks like xchain floor price is way off
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #189705 #189706 05:50 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    actually NOT way off... BTC floor price comes open DEX BTC orders OR from cheapest dispenser for this token for BTC.... if you look at dispensers, you can see a dispenser for 0.0001 BTC... which matches the BTC Floor price
  • @jdogresorg #189707 05:51 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    I should put some question mark icons next to the BTC/XCP Price/Floor fields... so ppl can hover over and see where each price comes from.
  • @Crazyzapped #189709 06:18 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    https://twitter.com/Crazy_zapped/status/1620486338553479170?t=tAAzyHqm4_SW0scOuwjUuA&s=35
  • @GInvests044 #189710 07:02 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Can you make multiple dex sell orders from a single wallet?
  • @CryptoDitz #189711 07:03 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    @jdogresorg dm 🙏
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #189710 #189712 07:05 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Yes.
  • @hcarpach #189713 07:26 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Hey, what you guys think of this? http://ordinals.com/
  • @Might_be_Arwyn #189715 08:22 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    very interesting.. im thinking what if when you made a xcp tx, you could implement the ordinal tx to the btc spend function as a mining fee and then implement xcp on top of new bitcoin blocks?
  • @Might_be_Arwyn #189716 08:23 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    that way you could assign token issuance to new bitcoin blocks thuse making the layers interpoperable on new sats.. seems mega legit
  • @Might_be_Arwyn #189717 08:23 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    would that be possible? i also thought it the info is carried in the utxo then perhaps a similar roottap could be employed for xcp transactions
  • @Might_be_Arwyn #189718 08:24 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    but mostly i just smoke weed
  • @AryanJab #189719 08:27 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    https://pepeflyers.com/sales/pepe-flyers-v1

    Pepes but for your feet.

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  • @AryanJab #189720 08:27 PM, 31 Jan 2023
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  • @Might_be_Arwyn ↶ Reply to #189718 #189721 08:28 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    apparently counterparty uses op returns, so the sat association thing doesn't work, because you can't send sats in an OP_RETURN
  • @TokyoYoshi #189722 08:33 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Xcp and ordinals are two very different things. They both store data on the Bitcoin blockchain. Ordinals store everything, including the artwork in the blockchain. Counterparty only stores asset ids, amounts held and holder addresses. Everything else is stored outside the blockchain. Counterparty is a separate l2 protocol. Ordinals are an l1 protocol
  • @TokyoYoshi #189723 08:34 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Counterparty can at some point use taproot sends, but that has nothing to do with either protocol specifically, it's just a transport mechanism
  • @TokyoYoshi #189724 08:36 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    The big deal here is that ordinals live 100% on the Bitcoin blockchain and counterparty assets do not. They only use the Bitcoin blockchain to track asset ownership and related metadata
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189726 10:04 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    Well satoshi stated stuff like this should reside on a side chain like xcp vs how ordinals is working
  • @MoparMiningLLC #189727 10:05 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    That was the whole purpose for namecoin which failed
  • @masonmarcobello ↶ Reply to #189724 #189730 11:43 PM, 31 Jan 2023
    What are the implications (if any) of all this added data being stored directly on Bitcoin? Wouldn’t that contribute to bloating?
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