- 18 March 2024 (19 messages)
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We’re doing a Counterparty space Wednesday to discuss v10.0.0 set your reminders ✅ https://x.com/emblemvault/status/1769815353482154225?s=46&t=VKlzOqs5vqDWcDUEI3d16wWEmblem Vault (@EmblemVault) on X
Counterparty Updates🚨 with @agkrellenstein https://t.co/xpFyhUALCV
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they just rugged. wtf.
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this is not the case
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eitherway money lost
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devs are working on it. Radyium front-end has issues. that's what I've been told. No one has rugged.
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Thanks for your response Mike.
Money not yet locked (ar at least only 2 sol) so why not just refund?
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is distribution still happening
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me neither
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@mikeinspace, in case you're not aware of that.
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I hope he notices
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solid response mike & team. it's a pity it went the way it did. it would certainly have been a great launch.
- 19 March 2024 (46 messages)
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your guy better go out to discuss any non related to counterparty business
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if any rug will be affected CP reputation here
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Any hope for recovering an asset where I triggered a dispenser with a BTC send from a Coinbase wallet?
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guys!where can I log in counterwallet!
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can you share me the web?
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i have some money in counterwallet!
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but i cant find the entry,lang time ago i can enter
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Think you would need to check w coinbase, since the dispense would have gone to the wallet in their custody. Some exchanges offe recovery of funds for a fee. But dunno if coinbase does.
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there are some wallets that would support your seed
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which one
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OK,thanks bro
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what is the addy you have sent your BTC to? i am sure there is a trace on blockchain if you ever did that transfer. try searching your receiving address on mempool.space , if you will not be able to find your tx, means you never made it.
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you can recover your assets from the wallets you have keys to.
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This was the tx. But if I import the key from the wallet I sent the BTC to the dispenser from into rarepepewallet, it doesn't show the asset. It's possible that something changed with the coinbase wallet in the past 8 months that's causing the current key to no longer be associated. https://xchain.io/tx/7e2ccce25ceba185b5014795463c4b6221fdd93415e29c051f4a404ad5236374 Either way, thanks for the assistance. Didn't even think to try that before.
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all assets can be recovered if you have the key. could easilly help you to do that.
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Thank you. Will play around with it a little longer and see if I can get it.
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Hi, I’m a representative from Web3 Global, looking to discuss with someone from the team regarding events and free/mutual partnerships. Who's the go-to?
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are you the youngest representitive from web3?
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I just launched a #memecoin called TRUMPDANCING it's on the #Bitcoin Network and all proceeds of the sale will go to Mr. Trump WHEN he gets a #Bitcoin address.
How to ---> First get - http://freewallet.io , then send 11,110 satoshis to the dispenser address link below from your freewallet to get 100 TRUMPDANCING! Let's make Trump Dance Again! Go to @pepeproject for more info
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Blackrock launches tokenised asset fund on Ethereum blockchain!
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NGMI
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- 20 March 2024 (39 messages)
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If anyone messed w ordinals on electrum or sparrow or whatever, check ALL btc addys for runestone drops. Found a few on there, including hardware btc wallet
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you mean native segwit address? wasn't they airdropping to tarpoot address'es only ?
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I'm guessing they all had to be recieved on one address?
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I got them in 2 native segwit addresses, and 3 in legacy addresses.
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5 total. Unsure why other than I know I had mistakenly minted ordinals to segwit then had to extract them w sparrow. But all 5 addys got them
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5 diff addresses
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In one instance the ordinals were spam, so I had previously sent the entire sum of their worth to a btc only hardware wallet to prune them and stash the sats. They dropped one to that hardware wallet too.
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Point is, check yo wallets folks. Might be some hidden gems in there
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nope
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Just bumping this for anyone who wants to tune in to Adam's chat with the Emblem team at 11:30 EST!
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Uranus
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The founders should talk with this guy about getting XCP assets trading on Magic Eden for Bitcoin https://x.com/0xLeoInRio/status/1770463568116281790?s=20Jack Lu (@0xLeoInRio) on X
What do you want to see Magic Eden ship next?
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Coming closer to reality with all the new updates and optimizations
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Thia is the game changer
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yep
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whoa really...?
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@hodlencoinfield had no idea about this...
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Yep he has a couple fake rares
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Live. Raise your hand if you want to speak https://x.com/emblemvault/status/1770473049692971454?s=46&t=VKlzOqs5vqDWcDUEI3d16wEmblem Vault (@EmblemVault) on X
https://t.co/xpFyhUBjst
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GM. Counterparty Twitter space happening now: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1kvKpvdMPekJE?s=20
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YES
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Adam bugging
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can folks hear him now?
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Stampverse.io upcoming mint. By Derp.
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TYSM Derp and Stampverse team ❤️
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Minting should be public soon. Testing undergoing
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Bitcoin Gaming Onchain
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Great spaces. Thank you for hosting 🙏🙏
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Thanks for the shout out. We have run into quite a few issues that make our game taxing on infrastructure providers so we are trying to remedy these before opening up to the public.
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Arthur's message sounds legit. looking forward to him posting the address where I can send 1 ETH so I can get 2 back.
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v10.0.0-beta.1 is out (https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/releases/tag/v10.0.0-beta.1)
Changes from v10.0.0-alpha:
* Run automatic software version every 24h rather than on every block (with dither)
* Add the possibility to reparse from a given block on minor version change
* Add warning with confirmation dialogue to bootstrap command and --no-confirm flag
* Add checkpoints for mainnet up to block 834,500 and for testnet up to block 2,580,000
* Re-enable additional tests (testnet "test book") in CI
* Automate Docker image build and publish
* Increase AddrIndexRs required version to v0.4.4
* Accept config args both before and after the command
* Fixed a bug in v10.0.0-alpha that broke Docker Compose deployments, e.g. with SimpleNode. (WARN - failed to connect daemon)
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Repeat 30x (doubling) and one eth become over 1 billion eth 😜
- 21 March 2024 (6 messages)
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Updated - 3160 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://xchain.io/tx/a1a41f13fd495b4a2d1acd0cb973b9fe2b88fe4d9b11d9c807260909dd9ced33 -- 0.00015349 -- 299 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/9cfff0e19c09d0561516f7eb98b6c9b6d3b37d2a7ac10586eed948b242fd9fc3 -- 0.00018400 -- 112 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/ff299c8face1fe73c34fc3fce39a4d1182b496d53b940ecbdb3612dfa657a267 -- 0.00023000 -- 235 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/c98087b834e56d9446400482a6e0895e6fc0b041b7f464619d62b421925dbdec -- 0.00027900 -- 1994 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/b2102bc89a08a52e024bb4d1a5ca1e940db0a8d7771711c944c36953c393bd66 -- 0.00028500 -- 150 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/889bd140dae2f07d28494ce7409475bf63c0deff09f50293d9ad05f5f752ee72 -- 0.00029999 -- 370 XCP
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Unfortunately you won't be able to send your ETH to Arthur as he just received the ban hammer treatment - hopefully you're not too disappointed :)
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Yes it works in any counterparty wallet
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But counterwallrt is currently down
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"Please dump the price 10% more"
- 22 March 2024 (2 messages)
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Hi. Is there a XCP fee to send the MPMA transactions?
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No XCP, just btc x2, one for the miner aand one for the MPMA
- 23 March 2024 (7 messages)
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yes, there is a 5 block delay now to deal with sellers attempting to rug buyers.
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Remortgage house, buy Pepes tip crypsi x
- 24 March 2024 (1 messages)
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- 25 March 2024 (13 messages)
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Updated - 5150 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://xchain.io/tx/4a13de6aa19a6cb4bb59f837b41fb16fd069a8373bef4804dab4d32a927268aa -- 0.00018200 -- 210 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/9cfff0e19c09d0561516f7eb98b6c9b6d3b37d2a7ac10586eed948b242fd9fc3 -- 0.00018400 -- 110 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/ee041e8c9cb50a2a6bcfd0a3a1dad61014edf9f4dbc1bb1152b877b25dcfd441 -- 0.00018999 -- 350 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/0827febdb80e0fdfaf74cba5150c240962daf7f397091ab2a9099adf4f277137 -- 0.00019000 -- 100 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/8341a8a21a30ea3e294dff97ef56849962eec92a3c2b82eb1c89372d78b9c5f4 -- 0.00022000 -- 100 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/ff299c8face1fe73c34fc3fce39a4d1182b496d53b940ecbdb3612dfa657a267 -- 0.00023000 -- 234 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/629f0a2001d763d976316ce4adfbfc8e852096b920cbf0ab778b53618abb3a7a -- 0.00024690 -- 1792 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/c98087b834e56d9446400482a6e0895e6fc0b041b7f464619d62b421925dbdec -- 0.00027900 -- 1994 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/889bd140dae2f07d28494ce7409475bf63c0deff09f50293d9ad05f5f752ee72 -- 0.00029999 -- 370 XCP
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click the top bar - can see the members list with just the admins
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FYI, going forward I'm going to be giving regular dev updates on the official Counterparty twitter account (<at>CounterpartyXCP) and also my personal account (<at>agkrellenstein) if you'd like to follow them to stay up to date
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It seems that the dex-trade "volume bot" subscription is about to expire tomorrow. People still using dex-trade: is anyone interested in keeping this bot active (and willing to fund it)?
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Note that I'm not sure what the implications are, as I'm not very familiar with dex-trade - just sharing the info I got from J-Dog
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Without it they'll kick us out
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They have demands on volume
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There's actually a pretty cool innovation happening within the Bitcoin Stamps ecosystem which, I think, is the first time PSBT has been used in conjunction with Counterparty tokens. While the method does require trust, at the moment, the UX itself is pretty amazing. Counterparty should have trustless PSBT/atomic swaps in the future, but if you want to demo the experience (in a trusted manner), check out the OpenStamp marketplace.
Here's an example: https://openstamp.io/market/stamp/trading?symbol=StampRocks
Basically, you login using a wallet like Leather which will show you the Stamps (Counterparty assets) you can offer for sale. You select one, you'll be prompted to set a price and sign a message. No transaction required! Your asset is now available for purchase. The marketplace could rug you, but if you trust them, its very smooth. Free to list. Free to delist. If it sells, the marketplace takes a cut. The buyer performs the txn, pays the miner fee, which completes the PSBT.
Imagine a dispenser (or DEX order) that was free and instant to set-up or delist and couldn't rug the buyer or be over-bought.
From the buyer's perspective, it operates much like a dispenser today in that they send Bitcoin to an address (except that its largely automated through their connected wallet -- just click BUY and sign the message when prompted similar to MetaMask on OpenSea).
Once Counterparty has trustless PSBT/automic swap capabilities, the market will benefit greatly from the reduced friction and reduced risk of getting rugged. In the meantime, the current semi-trusted method does offer a glimpse into what the future holds. Try it out, you might be surprised!LinkFeatures SRC20 & Stamps Marketplace, Minting Service, Launchpad, and an Explorer for SRC20 & Stamps asset tracking.
- 26 March 2024 (118 messages)
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I was using RPW yesterday signing messages and thinking how can we list our assets by signaling by signing.
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Leather is a custodial wallet that has the backend built in to facilitate the trade automatically by users signing messages in their wallet basically?
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Leather isn’t custodial. It connects to OpenStamp by signing with the private key and then constructs a PSBT that OpenStamp hangs onto. Freewallet has been used in a similar fashion. Basemint used to connect to Freewallet through message signing
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Pepe.wtf connects in the same way to freewallet
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You really have to try it out first yourself for it to click
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They don’t have the private key. They have a signed txn which controls the one asset.
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They could steal that one asset
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It's a sensible middleground and an excellent business model.
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Not sure of the regulatory implications though. You're not custodying keys but you are effectively custodying assets.
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I had no idea this was even possible
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As I understand it, yep that's exactly it. Massively reduces counterparty risk
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No idea either but while they may “effectively” be custodying… they’re not really
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Sort of, use at your own risk lol
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totally get it. at some point the analogy with traditional transactions breaks down, but that's a tough thing to explain.
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Anyway, it's very interesting and obviously makes for a great UX.
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They’re also based in China so maybe don’t give AF
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Maybe a decent analogy would be custodying titles to assets
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The reason I don’t see it as custody is that you could break the PSBT at any time by simply moving the asset yourself. They can steal but they don’t really custody it
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Yeah, totally. Probably better just to call this a neat blockchain thing and stop looking for TradFi equivalents.
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Another angle: what if you are the marketplace as an artist. You can offer your art for sale on your own site and buyers are sort of implicitly trusting you anyways.
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Oh yeah from a trust point of view it's definitely superior to that model.
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Why do this rather than offer a dispenser? Avoids front-running where you need to refund one of the buyers
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(the business logic and the trust model match, which is a pretty sure sign you're doing something right)
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It transfers the liability from buyer to seller
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No. Canceling is simply not broadcasting the txn
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you don't have to spend the utxo?
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ah, it's not on-chain. but you're trusting the middleman not to broadcast the tx.
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Right. It’s definitely a trusted system
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You trust they will discard that transaction when you press the CANCEL button
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ofc. a totally reasonable tradeoff. the cancellation can happen off-chain, but to the end-user it's an (off-chain) tx
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same.
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For good measure if you don’t trust that they did this, then you can move the asset which would require a txn
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You sign a message with a dust input and an op return to move the asset
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So if you spend the dust, and send the asset to yourself, Bitcoin l1 will see the tx as an attempted double spend
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This is the part of the conversation where I shill my latest project that also helps fund the cp dev multisig to help make asset bound psbts happen :-p
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The tx structure for psbts isn’t immediately intuitive.
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it's also the case that many of the parties who would consider fulfilling this role of psbt market maker are comfortable YOLOing regulation and so reach for the lower hanging fruit of vanilla custodial solutions.
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we have to find a way to be able to use the dex without tx’s in orders
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as I understand it the no tx thing is a feature of the centralization inherent in what @mikeinspace described
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as a rule decentralized stuff costs more and is clunkier.
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(bitcoin e.g. lol)
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All the ordinals trading is one step more decentralized than what openstamp is doing. In the case of utxo bound assets, you can specify both the asset and the price so the custodian is really only holding an order
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That can only be fulfilled as specified by the seller
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Meaning, the BTC must be sent for it to fill?
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Yes
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The seller pays nothing, and specifies the asset for sale and price, the buyer adds a utxo holding enough btc to pay for the asset and the tx
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What's neat is not having to delist and relist with actual txns to make a price adjustment. Price could theoretically adjust every second.
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With XCP as the trading currency on the dex, you could build a dex with just signatures this way?
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WTB TEST, DM me
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I love that @teysol issued test assets on testnet and missed out on millions of dollars lol
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Sounds like the real test lol
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Test in production
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never would've guessed that TEST would become a blockchain landmark. congrats to whoever had the foresight to issue it!
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IYKYK
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we did... on testnet lol
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Zkproof can fix that
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Founders just kept taking L’s for us 😆
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Has any artist here received a lawsuit for intellectual property and copyright violation from the trademark owner of Pepe the Frog?
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lol. well presumably if we had done things differently Counterparty would've suffered a fate more like AuroraCoin's or Nxt's or somesuch. Very happy and genuinely it's surprised it's got such a vibrant community a decade later
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It’s the only reason why I loved CP so much
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any tech news on XCP?
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Did you read above?
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just a bit
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cause i'm busy
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@teysol was on a podcast last week giving a tech update
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i hope XCP will regain its real value during this bull run
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Here
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Patience, we’ve only been waiting a decade, what’s another 9 months lol
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9 months is nothing
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eheheheh
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hope it will be listed somewhere else too
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tradeogre would be a good start
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these are good questions. but I've been surprised so far at how much resistance there has been to the simplest and most uncontroversial protocol changes. it's disappointing—people think that because Counterparty hasn't changed in so long (successfully) that it's best not to even try
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my favorite topic. who are these people and how are they surveyed? as far as i know there is no way to gauge what the community wants
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a classic trad painting Not my bank, about 2 years old now.. 100 minted. https://xchain.io/tx/caffd185f1ad74a119b6ca9974648b0187ec59f93f8cf5d550051050a6088732
- 27 March 2024 (7 messages)
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Emblem Vault (@EmblemVault) on X
Counterparty Updates with co-founder @agkrellenstein 1️⃣ New protocol developments 2️⃣ Attracting new users & applications 3️⃣ The future of XCP Listen to the podcast ⤵️ https://t.co/ok6FJNmFvw
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Hey guys, here one collaboration with the project rarecoco, i hope that u like it, jeje https://xchain.io/tx/4c1fc110fe1785b2f7900f6b2bbaf35c59b7d310bc199f62590a00251b6708a1
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It looks like xchain has become unavailable from AWS infrastructure, never saw any anouncement of this? does anyone have info on this? maybe an alternative for quering transactions history for accounts?
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It works for me
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I've just had a brain wave, setting the user agent seems to make it work again.
- 28 March 2024 (5 messages)
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🧨 Watch out!! The below XCP dispensers are owned by serial scammers.
https://xchain.io/tx/f586fa035bb3a2a1f4f1c4ccc15a9d75251c1a6b643b87a6497b6782336d07ff -- 0.00032417 -- 54 XCP AVOID
https://xchain.io/tx/c4836705b65bc8779cf99d4329bb3e9106979dd52da91d3eddb2a343876c220f -- 0.00210000 -- 500 XCP AVOID -
I have Closed some dispensers and transactions have already been confirmed but they are still showing Open in wallets and assets aren’t returned, any fix for this please
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Assets will be returned to your dispenser address after 5 blocks
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Got it, thanks, and what about XCP/BTC order, it was cancelled but still showing Pending
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No worries. This will be expired after 20 blocks if the order is not matched.
- 29 March 2024 (34 messages)
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I read this happened on Magic Eden, but I didn’t see any proof. Bottom line is it’s possible. I think the trade offs and mitigations easily make it worth it though.
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If you want to speed up the tx, you can spend their utxo to you with a high fee
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ANN When Counterparty was originally created, we launched with a working codebase + protocol on day one. I never wrote a whitepaper, because I thought it wasn't necessary. But ten years later, I think it will potentially help a lot of people to have a formal description of the project and protocol to refer to. So I went ahead and wrote a whitepaper for Counterparty—https://krellenstein.com/adam/get/counterparty-whitepaper_2024-03-29.pdf
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When Counterparty was released Omni was not operational
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you could send the MSTR token and that was it
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I believe it's in there?
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well that was step 1 in JR's plan to become the world's first trillionaire
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everything after that was a detail.
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JR?
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the creator of Mastercoin lol
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Counterparty in its Benjamin Button era.
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What about Tether?
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That was the only real use case
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That's a pretty successful project still linked with Omni or whatever they call it. Thought it was still being used, but I dunno.
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I think there was overlap in investors but yeah obviously a huge use-case. as i understand it tether is sunsetting its use of Omni
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Usdt on Omni has been abandoned
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can we hash this and put it in a block somewhere?
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if only there were a protocol that allowed you to do that 🤔
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News Explorer — Tether Ends Support for Omni, Kusama, and Bitcoin Cash USDT Transfers - Decrypt
The next-generation media outlet navigating the intersection of culture and technology.
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- 30 March 2024 (157 messages)
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Hated Omni instantly because of this
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Masterpiece! Best thing I’ve read in 10 years lol
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If it was 2017 I’d be sending in my ETH right now, lol
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Is the best way to get exposure to this owning xcp?
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Yes, XCP is the reserve, anti spam, and what sounds like the future gas of CP Bitcoin Smart Contracts
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just read this, nice 👍
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this was for dogeparty https://langerhans.github.io/cw_address_key_generator/index.html
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1bn marketcap for XCP when people will point attention over it .. people will think even to the burned BTC.. 2040 BTC burned , XCP should be at 140Marketcap minimum
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i see FOMO building up around XCP
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Bitcoin is over a trillion now.
CP could potentially add a wide range of functions/capabilities/values to BTC.
If we value the functionality that XCP adds to BTC at 1% of BTC's value, then XCP should have a market cap of $10 billion.
If we value the functionality that XCP adds to BTC at 3% of BTC's value, then XCP should have a market cap of $30 billion.
At an XCP market cap of $30 billion ——
$30,000,000,000 div. by 2,600,000 XCP = roughly $11,500 per XCP
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Systems, devices, and methods for DLT-based data management platforms and data products
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10825024
Patent History
Patent number: 10825024
Type: Grant
Filed: Apr 10, 2020
Date of Patent: Nov 3, 2020
Assignees: SYMBIONT.IO, INC. (New York, NY), The Vanguard Group, Inc. (Malvern, PA)
Inventors: Warren B. Pennington (New Castle, DE), John C. Evans (Downingtown, PA), Mark Smith (St. Petersburg, FL), Anush Vijayaraghavan (Jersey City, NJ), Ron Papanek (New York, NY)US Patent for Systems, devices, and methods for DLT-based data management platforms and data products Patent (Patent # 10,825,024 issued November 3, 2020) - Justia Patents SearchThe various embodiments described herein relate to systems, methods, and devices associated with distributed ledger systems (e.g., distributed ledger technology implemented on a decentralized network) that can be used to handle and manage the distribution and access of data in a manner that preserves the benefits of distributed ledger technology while enabling the private sharing of data. More specifically, the distributed ledger systems contemplated herein involve distributed ledger technology (DLT)-based data management platforms that can be implemented on nodes of a data management network.
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The Vanguard Group + Counterparty???
Systems, devices, and methods for DLT-based data management platforms and data products
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10825024
Patent History
Patent number: 10825024
Type: Grant
Filed: Apr 10, 2020
Date of Patent: Nov 3, 2020
Assignees: SYMBIONT.IO, INC. (New York, NY), The Vanguard Group, Inc. (Malvern, PA)
Inventors: Warren B. Pennington (New Castle, DE), John C. Evans (Downingtown, PA), Mark Smith (St. Petersburg, FL), Anush Vijayaraghavan (Jersey City, NJ), Ron Papanek (New York, NY)
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Who is the founder of Symbiont.io?
Mark Smith, Robby Dermody, Evan Wagner, and Adam Krellenstein are the founders of Symbiont.io.
https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/110081-80#faqs
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterparty_(platform)
Developer(s): Robby Dermody, Adam Krellenstein, Ouziel SlamaUS Patent for Systems, devices, and methods for DLT-based data management platforms and data products Patent (Patent # 10,825,024 issued November 3, 2020) - Justia Patents SearchThe various embodiments described herein relate to systems, methods, and devices associated with distributed ledger systems (e.g., distributed ledger technology implemented on a decentralized network) that can be used to handle and manage the distribution and access of data in a manner that preserves the benefits of distributed ledger technology while enabling the private sharing of data. More specifically, the distributed ledger systems contemplated herein involve distributed ledger technology (DLT)-based data management platforms that can be implemented on nodes of a data management network.
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I wonder why no one else is interested in the fact that Symbiont (basically counterparty OGs) and THE Vanguard group have a jointly filed patent that has been granted.
"Systems, devices, and methods for DLT-based data management platforms and data products
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10825024"US Patent for Systems, devices, and methods for DLT-based data management platforms and data products Patent (Patent # 10,825,024 issued November 3, 2020) - Justia Patents SearchThe various embodiments described herein relate to systems, methods, and devices associated with distributed ledger systems (e.g., distributed ledger technology implemented on a decentralized network) that can be used to handle and manage the distribution and access of data in a manner that preserves the benefits of distributed ledger technology while enabling the private sharing of data. More specifically, the distributed ledger systems contemplated herein involve distributed ledger technology (DLT)-based data management platforms that can be implemented on nodes of a data management network.
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That's unsettling
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Probably a LOT going on beneath the surface —- all will be revealed when the time is right?
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++++++++ i don't dream so big but i think 1000$ for xcp is doable
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2bn marketcap easy
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really easy
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could you share a few more clues/bread crumbs of info?
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i don't watch xcp chain explorer since 2017 i think lol
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who is buying? :D
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Man it's really hard to get in volume right now.
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there are way less coins in circulation
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majority are lost imho
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Probably half or so are lost or frozen somewhere?
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The creation and initial distribution of XCP was designed to be as decentralized and trustless as possible, without there being any mining network to provide Sybil resistance. In early 2014, a few cryptocurrencies had already been launched through what would later be called “initial coin offerings” (ICOs), however such a launch necessarily requires trust in the creators of the protocol, who must distribute (read “sell”) the tokens in a centralized manner.
Proof-of-burn provides an elegant alternative that mirrors the security model of Bitcoin mining: just as, with Bitcoin, energy is destroyed in the creation of bitcoins; with proof-of-burn, bitcoins are destroyed in the creation of XCP. The very energy used to create those bitcoins was repurposed to create XCP, and without the expenditure of any additional energy. Proof- of-burn had been theorized in 2013, but had never before been imple- mented;9 it provides strong Sybil resistance without introducing any centralization. -
yeah, lost on old exchanges too like poloniex
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30-40% i would say
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The very energy used to create those bitcoins was repurposed to create XCP, and without the expenditure of any additional energy.
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yeah indeed
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sadly now masses aren't aware of XCP
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we need a bit of marketing and maybe a split like polkadot did , a x100 on supply.. nothing will change for holders
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And this only goes to wallets with > 5,000 XCP?
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ya dont kill scarcity....
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yup
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Not that there’s a Whitepaper that states no more XCP will ever be made, this is a hard sell
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looool incredible
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no more will be created
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just split the supply
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nothing will change, everyone will hold the same value
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i've 100 , well it becomes 10000
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for people a high price is a solid psicological barrier
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even for liquidity on exchanges it will be better
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how can i market maker work with this low supply ?
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Bitcoin has 21M
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books needs to be fat to MM
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different
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bitcoin is bitcoin
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its just bitcoin
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I mean, what's the difference in having bigger supply?
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more accessible price , more liquidity , ecc ecc
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whats the benefit of having low supply ?
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can't give liquidity to people willing to buy
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because there are no coins
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I just don't understand what's the difference when things are divisible (asking, not saying is better)
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but if we do x100 , everyone can provide liquidity / will be able to buy
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to go high you need a good exchange , good visibility and liquidity
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how can you provide liquidity on exchanges with roughly 2M coins?
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yeah i agree
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its just optic but it will work even better
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people goes full retard with coins with high circulating supply.. look doge and others
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because they say : look i bought 1m coins with 100 dollar.
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its just optic yeah, but people are retarded and they feel better if they can buy more with less $
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before it happened with xrp, bcn , xlm , doge , sia , dgb , ecc ecc ... every of these coins are still alive and well
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only bcn died
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How many total Bitcoin are spread across X exchanges.
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bitcoin is bitcoin , different history in comparison with XCP
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:D
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XCP suffered during these years , it went inside a black hole and now it re-appeared .. this is the time we were waiting for .. we need to act now and implement changes
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I just watch lol
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:D
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Still confused. Symbiont was founded by founders of counterparty, so how is it unrelated?
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@teysol i sent a listing request to tradeogre, could be a nice start, many OG are on tradeogre..
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https://docs. google. com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScolXS8WMCDG7j8dIAbmutrQR6BWD5BrOCcRKJLCFfgPTBwoQ/viewform .. if you want to compile the form! more we are , more possibilities we will get listed ❤️
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remove the spaces , or if you dont want to copy and paste just google : tradeogre listing form
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i would like to coordinate something with community. i don't want to gain $$$ with XCP, i just want XCP to sit where it should be
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XCP needs to shine newly
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That’s incredible.
So when CP has an invalid tx, the invalid tx is valid in Bitcoin but CP knows that tx is invalid because it does not meet the criteria for it to be valid in CP…
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I can craft a tx to say give Xcer 1,000,000 XCP and it will be a valid bitcoin tx as its just a btc tx with a op return, but that doesn't mean I have 1000000 xcp to give, so its a invalid counterparty tx
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How does CP know it’s invalid?
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The balances are stored where? If a new address gets a token, it adds it to local CP database?
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yeah counterparty database is where balances are stored
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counterparty nodes don't talk to each other
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Counterparty has checkpoints against which a node's state is compared
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Thanks completely understand
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the code ships with calculated state hashes which are canonical. as a node syncs with the blockchain it produces state hashes which are compared against those shipped with the code. if there is a mismatch the node crashes because it's out of consensus.
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that means there is a problem in the consensus code, basically.
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Wow that makes sense
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As I understand we didn't have a recent checkpoint in years? At least until v10 alpha release. Seems like a critical enough reason for everyone to move to the latest
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checkpoints were last updated in 2016
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as part of v10 checkpoints were added up to the current block height. wouldn't have been possible without the painstaking and thankless work of Ouziel Slama. If you want to show him some appreciation, his donation address is in his GitHub profile: https://github.com/ouziel-slamaouziel-slama - Overview
1C3uGcoSGzKVgFqyZ3kM2DBq9CYttTMAVs. ouziel-slama has 32 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.
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(Ouziel also fixed the test suite which had been broken for over 5 years)
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Updated - 4577 XCP available on verified dispensers
https://xchain.io/tx/f91db6f000737aa0a643c36a4a09d17b50b157af5eed5cc73e1cd5e28fa22a04 -- 0.00022000 -- 87 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/8341a8a21a30ea3e294dff97ef56849962eec92a3c2b82eb1c89372d78b9c5f4 -- 0.00022000 -- 100 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/ff299c8face1fe73c34fc3fce39a4d1182b496d53b940ecbdb3612dfa657a267 -- 0.00023000 -- 234 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/629f0a2001d763d976316ce4adfbfc8e852096b920cbf0ab778b53618abb3a7a -- 0.00024690 -- 1792 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/c98087b834e56d9446400482a6e0895e6fc0b041b7f464619d62b421925dbdec -- 0.00027900 -- 1994 XCP
https://xchain.io/tx/889bd140dae2f07d28494ce7409475bf63c0deff09f50293d9ad05f5f752ee72 -- 0.00029999 -- 370 XCP
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maybe this has already been covered but to summarize counterparty's roadmap:
1 - get v10 working so nodes can be easily spun up and maintained
2 - create atomic swaps
3 - create a virtual machine
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not quite, no
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v10 is meant to deal with consensus issues (the software being impracticably difficult to run and slow to sync coupled with the lack of checkpoints and failing test suite made deployment and performance *effectively* consensus issues)
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v10.1 is the next release which will have a number of bug fixes and small improvements, but the big thing will be the API redesign
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v11 will have much the same but its big feature will be killing addrindexrs which will have performance and especially deployments benefits.
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After that comes atomic swaps.
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After that, well, it's unclear. There appears to be a lot of resistance from the community to creating a VM so we'll see...
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Periwig
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I am not tech support ser
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afaik counterwallet is down.
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where is the community resistance being displayed? on github?
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Try asking here:
https://t.me/freewallet_ioFreewallet.io ChatThis is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer
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@xcpdev
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I opened the wallet over the counter. Can the free wallet staff solve it?
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How could I use ledger to store XCP assets?
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rarepepewallet.wtf
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Would it be better to use legacy versus native segwit on ledger for compatibility?
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Never is everyone going to be happy about changes
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Adam's CP Whitepaper post on twitter has over 15,000 views on Twitter now:
https://x.com/agkrellenstein/status/1773758498863526140?s=20
There must be a LOT of people who are already interested, but just can't figure out how to start picking up some XCP.Adam Krellenstein (@agkrellenstein) on XWhen @CounterpartyXCP was launched, we had a working codebase on day 1. I never wrote a whitepaper because I thought it wasn't necessary. Ten years later, I think it could help a lot of people to have a formal description of the project, so I wrote one—https://t.co/P3rlDSldMG
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This is a very redacted question... Can assets/btc be distributed through asset names you create? Say I mint and hold POOP. Can someone send btc to my wallet by just inputting POOP since only 1 POOP can exist. Or say I mint 100 poop and distribute it to 99 friends. Can someone input POOP and it distributes based on how much POOP you hold.
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Someone can certainly call the cp api and determine who holds poop and send them btc
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Lol
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This is sort of implemented at the tooling layer through Freewallet.
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For instance, if you type "mikeinspace" as the destination in Freewallet, it resolves to my address.
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Here is how it looks. Type "mikeinspace" click out of the field and my address gets auto-populated.
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At the protocol layer, I minted and hold the asset: https://xchain.io/asset/MIKEINSPACE
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Not sure which triggers it, tbh
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In terms of distributing to "100 friends" who hold the asset, a dividend can be airdropped cheaply
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Counterparty White Paper
https://krellenstein.com/adam/get/counterparty-whitepaper_2024-03-29.pdf
For the TLDR crowd 😁, here are some goodies I found in the "Future Development" section.
1. Deeper Integration with BTC
".....Counterparty will be able to provide seamless integration with the Bitcoin token: Counterparty assets will be able to be attached directly to UTXOs, allowing for them to be
held and transferred using standard Bitcoin wallet software."
" this upgrade will allow for trustless, atomic swaps between native Counterparty assets and BTC, such as Ordinals has. Indeed, it will be possible to trade Ordinals assets for Counterparty
assets as well."
2. Implementation of a General-Purpose Virtual Machine
"The Counterparty smart contracts language will address these limitations of existing systems, so as to bring general-purpose computation to the Bitcoin blockchain, and without the use of a sidechain. Naturally, XCP will serve as the gas token for computation and storage using this virtual machine, and fees will be dynamic based on network load." -
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Thank you for the response. This is exactly what I was looking for :) much love g
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It’s unfortunate that the counterparty named asset space is so limited. It almost ensures that no dns type system is built on top of it.
That said, if there was a special purpose subasset namespace created at the protocol level under the asset xcp, a routing system based on punycode would be simple creating a global namespace.
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i was doing all wrong lol, so i can just type a xcp asset (ex pepemotion) and send them x asset to all the holders?
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no no no no no... don't do that. You need to do a dividend if the intent is to send to all holders.
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multisend is fine but its much cheaper to do a dividend (although that's only possible if you minted the asset)
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you know if its just if you minted it or if you have token issuance ownership too? (in the event you got token ownership from issuer)
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yeah I think you need to hold the token issuance.
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gotchya
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to me too, but for majority of people it makes sense
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Is there any viable stablecoin that could be launched on counterparty that could replace Tether?
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Because bitcoin DGAF about quantum machines
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Its too simple for quantum computing to “break”
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There is nothing for it to break kek
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Power grids, financial systems, military, etc… if quantum can break Bitcoin, it can break every other encryption securing our security already.
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yeah i've never understood this concern. Blockchains are in the grand scheme of things not all that important lol
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They are worried about it
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