- 10 November 2022 (9 messages)
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need to un dust my existing freewallet -
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Electrum Bitcoin WalletElectrum Bitcoin Wallet.
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cheers
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gm gm gm -
WTS two Footsoldier - 11 November 2022 (23 messages)
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PEPEDOM 11pcs dispenser for 0.001 btc https://xchain.io/tx/92e2187e00364187830a1842ee5cb867d3688fffeb1c39b73464854ee7035d40 -
PEPEJUICE sweet dispenser.
https://xchain.io/tx/7b4765e17117d1167be24586424b2b7b5831b3431e2ec05bc67f2a5c63bcbab6 -
Random question can freewallet transact with USDC ie send or receive it? -
Thought so thank you fren
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Who here has a Counterparty node running? And which version it is running? -
Node ?
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In case this is a legit question, Counterparty is software running on top of Bitcoin. Bitcoin nodes that are also Counterparty nodes that read/write CNTRPRTY Bitcoin transactions which are interpreted in consensus.
I’m also asking the version because the latest release v9.60 included multiple changes not everyone agreed on. bitSTART is still running v9.59, and will continue running it because we believe Counterparty becomes stronger, resistant and more stable by not upgrading when there is disagreement.
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what changes don't you like? -
sorry, I don't pay attention, just looking to catch up and learn something.
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Np, I can explain. First, the release included 2 CIPs. This by itself is not how a decentralized protocol should be updated. One change, there is consensus, then the next change…
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Second?
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Ok cool. Second, the implementation of these CIPs. Each has their own details to discuss. One was built on top of dispensers. The other changed the asset issuance format. Both deserve their own release to be built in the best possible way. I have not seen there was diversity in ideas and implementation…
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it doesn't look like there's a large number of technical contributors to the counterparty-lib
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https://xchain.io/tx/2e0d2c373ae2f446ecc9cc9d3c35b4be5bac168307aebb6be97d9b9996821ceb - 12 November 2022 (230 messages)
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I think it’s more of an issue with bitStart, not sure what that is… being able to handle the new release…
Rather than…
Non consensus..
The only person complaining about it is you.
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This is constructive criticism, and seems to be offered in good faith. There is no doubt that we can do better in future, although it must be noted that the biggest shortcomings might be the shortage of node operators, code contributors, testers, and people offering suggestions.
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Personally I thought the Oracled Dispensers update was a questionable choice. It does not look like there was any demand for said feature whatsoever. Nobody bothered to lobby for or against it, and there was no discussion about implementation on counterpartytalk.org at all - yet it was implemented anyway.
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Having said that, it is surely in our best interest to come to consensus and not get stuck maintaining permanent forks of Counterparty. Let's just all get more involved earlier in the process in future, and we'll all benefit.
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not sure that's even worth 2 cents, but there it is
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People should know that even if they are not using v9.60’s new features (oracle dispensers and issuance reset), they are implicitly supporting these changes if they use v9.60.
If you continue using v9.59, which anyone that doesn’t care or support the new features should, everything you do is still compatible and valid in v9.60.
v9.60 is the “fork”. In quotes because all is in the same Bitcoin blockchain, so is not a traditional crypto fork.
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I guess the point I should have made is that you probably could have influenced the outcome if feedback had been given much earlier in the process. Now it is what it is, and it seems counterproductive not to run the latest code and stay up to date.
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I disagree is counterproductive. And I am not the only one that had problems with how this update was done.
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Xchain is just another node. I have my own node. You should have your own node. There should be many nodes
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An island is an interesting analogy, but is not necessary.
Counterparty is the interpretation of messages in Bitcoin. That’s it.
I am constantly seeing these messages. Most of the ones that are not valid are the v9.60 issuance messages.
And I am sure almost all of these issuances are not related to using reset.
Counterparty v9.60 was forced into the community because of how centralized it has become. It is clear as water. Even this chat, called the “Official Counterparty Chat” is constantly promoting private products (xchain and freewallet) over open source (counterwallet). And this same person is the main maintainer of the protocol code!
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Well intentions, for sure. But v9.60 took it too far.
Who here has reviewed the code? Who here has installed v9.60?? Who here has a node??? -
GM - The next Counterparty Community Hangout is taking place Wednesday 16th November. If you have any topics you want to discuss, please drop me a DM, or reply here.
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1djGXlmgaNvGZPlay recording: Counterparty Community Hangout - 16 November 2022Counterparty’s Space · Where live audio conversations happen
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Youre running a version no one else is using either explicitly or implicitly if they rely on freewallet or xchain as their source of truth. So like I said, you’re on an island. Asking people to join you is akin to bcashers shouting that bcash is the real bitcoin because it didn’t upgrade to segwit or bsv is the real bitcoin because it’s satoshis true vision. So you have quite the task ahead of you if your plan is to attract folks to your island.
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a boring ftx day
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airdrop to 2 peoples. just drop btc address
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lol ?
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why too fast, bro
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done,
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i bought 12$ each . but i think i value than 500$, just hold .
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sr, late
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Thank you)
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God damn
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That one I'll be first to drop addy 😂😂😂
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N you are a bot am sure now
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Who is the developer of RPW? -
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I want to talk about the v9.60 release and the state of Counterparty development
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first wallet recieved
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too fast ?
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first wallet recieved Quarks, Master of Black Holes
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I respect and like you man, we met personally.
But, you were one of the first people to tell me “what are you calling your fork?” even before v9.60 (which IS the fork) was released. You and @jdogresorg told me my node was going to stop working very quickly after the activation block.
I believed that, even did this asset: https://bitst.art/BITSTART.NEWERA
The initial reaction from almost every single person I have expressed my concerns is to “chill, let’s figure it out”, which I have done, as I am just about trying to make what I believe is better for Counterparty and Bitcoin.
But, this “waiting” has only made my position weaker because now I’m been told is “too late” or “you’re in an island”.
I won’t be silent any more.
Avoid v9.60 at all costs. If you continue using old wallet versions, is like continue using v9.59 so there is nothing to worry about.
The latest version of Freewallet, the one that asked you to “auto update”, is what has made all this mess.
These features should be used by users organically. One great example that makes it obvious that there is a single entity that feels entitled that his will is the “truth”: making a reset as soon as it is a it activated!!! How the f**k do you expect this just activated feature to be ready in all nodes from the protocol? Because you are in full control.bitSTARTDiscover Bitcoin Art Assets / NFTs
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Joe looney himself👍🏻 @hodlencoinfield -
Thought as much! Thanks dood
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Not sure if I do something wrong but I get this error when trying to exchange rarepepess.skyhookdeed for rarepepess.skyhook -
hmm, it got through after another try
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You have a tab on the end of your asset name notice the \t and the end of the asset name
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yeah probably that was that, and when I tried again, i wrote it correctly
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Freewallet connects to 9.60 whether you upgrade or not because that’s the most recent version
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Xchain runs 9.60
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Rpw and Freeport run on 9.60
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Counterwallet runs on 9.60
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You are on an island with 9.59
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I also never told you your node would “stop working” it just will be out of consensus with what everyone else is using
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It does not matter, if you do issuances from an old wallet it will be done in the v9.59 format thus being fully compatible.
Is funny that you mention the analogy with bcash. I see it similar but from a different perspective. From my perspective, a bcash liking entity has taken over the network and made the big blocks (reset) because it benefits his personal asset name squatting. v9.60 is bcash winning. v9.59 is Bitcoin.
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You’re forgetting that if an asset issued on 9.60 is then traded for another asset those dex orders will not show up in 9.59 because the asset wouldn’t exist
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So it’s not the case of “just don’t issue in 9.60”
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Balances of earlier assets will also not be correct
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So as time goes on 9.59 becomes more and more out of consensus with the current version
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This doesn’t take into account the fact that counterparty forks at every protocol change of which there have been many over the years
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You’ve arbitrarily chosen 9.59 as the “true” version, why not 9.58 or 9.57 or 9.56
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All were hard forks
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There are two dispensers open giving 0.1xcp instead of 1 beware unless you want to buy 0.1 xcp for the same price as 1xcp. -
As @jdogresorg said it’s not a scam it’s your voluntary choice I’m just warning in case someone rush buys and wasn’t aware
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I’ll make some updates in the next freewallet release to show item cost like I do on xchain so it’s more clear what unit price is 👍🏻
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In part thanks to you by misguiding me
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Not arbitrary. Read all that is linked from here: https://counterpartytalk.org/t/cip13-cip3-alternative-divisibility-set-by-defining-the-asset-not-by-reserving-the-name/6420CIP13 (CIP3 alternative): Divisibility set by defining the asset, not by reserving the name
Counterparty is about to make a change that I believe goes against the principles of Bitcoin, CIP3. For Counterparty to reach its maximum potential, it needs to win over the approval of most Bitcoiners. Many of these Bitcoiners believe that the blockspace should only be used for financial transactions. So, in order to gain their support, every detail matters. CIP3 has always been framed as a “benign” change that won’t affect anyone. But this is only because it was rationalized from the perspec...
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v9.60 was a rushed release, done without testing a full blockchain parsing. You know this
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But for some reason, still defend it
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I’m just trying to help you understand the position you’re in
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And full blockchain parsing was done on every prior release?
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You realize that the way counterparty works that isn’t actually necessary since you have activation blocks
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9.60 did not create the parsing issue, it also affects your chosen version 9.59
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Not to say it’s obvious but it’s obvious
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But I agree with you Juan and I think most others do. We need a better way to get to consensus on upgrades.
I personally think it should be a vote via xcp since that is the only token that was issued by the protocol itself -
This is definitely not ready to be publicly released, but fuck it I’m going to announce it now
https://www.xcp.dev
Here you can see the status of your actions in Counterparty. Special notice for the issuances.
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IMO it is a very bad idea to use XCP for voting on protocol changes.... Bitcoin doesn't vote with BTC on updates... someone having a large stack of XCP does not make them able to understand the technical aspects of Counterparty.... would VERY quickly turn into a shit platform..... same reason that the XCP Foundation over the years never had any say on protocol changes either.... the TECHNICAL people in the room should debate the best way to implent things and agree or disagree.... not have code pushed out through "I have a big stack of this token, therefore I get to force my way"
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The technical people in the room would discuss to put the CIP forward or not and a vote from there
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It’s worth a discussion at least
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Our job as users of the platform is to prevent forks
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That’s no. 1 priority
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Agree there needs to be more discussions, 100% disagree that any protocol changes should come down to a XCP vote.... if that is the case, the change is clearly contentious, consensus will not have been met, and the change should not be implemented.
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It doesn’t need to be a 50% threshold… it could be 75-80% or whatever is deemed consensus.
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Are you talking total votes or total xcp
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Total votes
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In the past when xcp was used for foundation elections less than 5% of xcp was used to vote
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Yea totally. Maybe people will look to hold more xcp and get more involved.
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some exchanges have huge bags and might be able to force bad decisions
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Exactly
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Didn’t think of exchanges
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Apathy is a huge issue with voting on top of other issues like decision making being in the hands of non devs
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Also why is an XCP holder more important than say a large rare pepe collector
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I don’t think they are… but xcp is the only native token
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All the tokens are native
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Xcp is the only token with utility in the platform itself
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But it’s very minimal
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You can be a counterparty user and never touch xcp
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Native as in the only token not issued by a user
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Many nft collectors use dispensers and never use xcp yet they have a significant interest in the success of the platform
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I totally agree.
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I think native isn’t the correct term in that context
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Haha if you say it, it’s probably true lol
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Lol don’t take my word for it!
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Often the dex is described as only working for “native” tokens which is why using btc (a non-native token) is so clunky
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BTC is not a token, it's a coin
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it's native to the blockchain, tokens are not
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i.e. baked into the protocol
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I like that way of understanding it, although popular usage seems to vary over time
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so calling XCP a native token to Counterparty kinda makes sense
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For the record, I trust Jdog, Javier, Mysterious, and others with their calls on what’s good for the protocol…
But that doesn’t stop people from calling us centralized so I think it’s an important issue to tackle.
Saylor mentions a few requirements for a crypto to not be considered a security and centralization is one of them. -
is it possible for Counterparty to be decentralized? would it even work?
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I think the centralization is essential to some degree
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but in terms of governance, we can do better
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Agree. Was mostly meaning the decisions to the changes of the protocol are not centralized.
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Did someone funding your address, closing the dispenser, and taking all the funds/tokens fit with your expected human behavior?
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In the beginning there is always some centralization. Bitcoin started centralized.
But at this point, after seeing how “crypto” has come full circle, NFTs ending up being one of the biggest use cases for “crypto”, and Bitcoin has had it from 2014!
Since I started with the community I’ve talked about my concerns of how things were organized. We need to be more strategic and careful with changes as we move forward. Counterparty should not be treated like just another software. We are writing stuff in an eternal immutable ledger!
I definitely think Counterparty NEEDS decentralization. Disagreements ARE REQUIRED for the longevity of the protocol. Avoid forks as much as possible, have competing implementations, and only the best changes to the protocol are integrated. -
I like to refer to XCP as the platform token
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I like it
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None
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I think the point of apathy is interesting. Maybe it would be helpful in the future to work with the Counterparty collections to mention upcoming votes to their collectors in group chats. It was great to hear about the XCP collections web page update directly from @FortyByTwentyFive.
The majority of the community are active in at least one chat whether it be Rare Pepe, Bitcorn, Fakes, Danks, Wojaks or others. Many users were simply unaware (and still are) of CIP25 and/or its significance. Equally a lot don’t care and just want to collect cards.
Great to see so many working on Counterparty and its future! I think we all just want the best for Counterparty and it’s important we work together to achieve that👍 -
I can help
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DM me if you prefer
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@jdogresorg 🙌
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You can join the developer channel which is more for dev chat… https://t.me/Counterparty_DevOfficial Counterparty Dev Chat
Group for discussion about Counterparty based development Github: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/ Docs: https://docs.counterparty.io/
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So, reading a bit on the above, if I use older freewallet version, does this mean that issued tokens wont show in the future?
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All versions of freewallet use api.counterparty.io which is on 9.60.0
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The old version of the wallet works best! Because any new versions continue supporting old formats.
Only SOME of what is done in the NEW version is not seen as valid by the old nodes.
As a Counterparty user, the safest (and most aware/responsible/don’t trust verify) is to not upgrade unless you want a specific new feature. Everything done in an old wallet is detected by the new also, but not the other way around ONLY for the new features.
Everyone must be aware this is not an ordinary blockchain fork. This is different, because all is the same Bitcoin blockchain. Most of your actions are detected as valid in both versions, is only the NEW feature actions that are seen as invalid by the non-updated -
okay thanks both
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I’ve had this in mind when creating https://www.xcp.dev (alpha!)
Here you can clearly see how your actions (in any version, because is all Bitcoin) are seen by a v9.59 node. -
This is false, the safest thing as a user is to stay on the version used by majority of users
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False is saying 1+1=3
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You’re telling people they’re safer by using an out of consensus version of counterparty
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Would I be safer using 9.58?
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Even safer than 9.59 right?
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You are implying that there is trust of the version of Counterparty. What happens if the repo is taken over……
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Active Dispensers:
BTC: 0.00090000
USD: $15.17 ($15.17/card)
Give: 1
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What does this have to do with telling users they’re safer on an older out of consensus version
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If a repo was “taken over” it would be visible to everyone on GitHub
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It has 100% to do!
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You may not like how an update was handled as someone relatively new to the project, but telling people to use an older version and that it’s safer is just bad advice for the avg user
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Nope for a supposedly decentralized protocol
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Speaking in generalities is not helpful
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Agree
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You’re running Counterparty Juan right now, anyone that wants to be in consensus with the tools everyone is using needs to be on Counterparty
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Telling people to run Counterparty Juan is telling them to trust YOUR judgement over everyone else
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Counterparty is Bitcoin.
Disagreements are part of a decentralized protocol.
This was going to happen. It was inevitable you must understand.
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I’m surprised there hasn’t been a fork until now
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So it’s not unexpected
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OverTheCounterparty (OTxCp) trades where? -
There is no fork, is all Bitcoin
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This is how updates work in counterparty, it’s you that refuses to separate counterparty interpreter from bitcoin consensus network
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I’m sorry is not only me. Maybe I’m the only v9.59 node though? I haven’t known with 100% certainty about someone else running that version
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Then why are you the only person advocating users run 9.59?
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Lol. Are you running your node?
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Can you answer my question first?
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Who else is advocating everyone should run a previous version of counterparty?
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And proclaiming it to be “safer” for users
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Every block that’s added makes 9.59 more and more out of consensus with the latest version
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Yeah and you knew all along
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Of course, I told you as much
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Changes in counterparty are forward looking, not backward looking
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We had an entire conversation about that
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Let me breath. I’ll be back
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So if you don’t like how issuances work, you can “fix” it and submit a PR to be added to the next version
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This is usually the point when the minority opinion creates their own version of the platform and calls it something like “satoshis true vision”
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But I’d rather you stay and try and understand what I’m explaining to you
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Breath taken.
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I have seen and spoken with you in the dev chat too. Maybe English isn’t your first language and something is getting lost in translation. Everyone can have valid points here but lets clear up one important fact…
Protocol - The official procedure or system of rules.
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There is a Kaleidoscope asset that has this from a year or so ago. I haven’t checked it in a while, but it was customary to take a few tokens you don’t have from the wallet and leave some others. -
I remember this one, wasn't it coded in webdings or something until the description got updated with the key?
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Yeah, it was Wingdings art, that was the 12 words. I decrypted it and took ownership of the asset and made the subasset with the 12 words.
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I have a guess who made it, but I’m not certain since it was made on a fresh address.
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looks like something [someone] would do
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he who shall not be named
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An asset centipede
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How do oracle dispensers work? is that to address some of the dispenser cheating that's been happening?
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no, oracled dispensers are so that people can price dispenser tokens in local fiat prices ($20 USD, 500 JPY, etc)
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Trusted Dispensers is coming to address some of the trust issues with dispensers... hopefully next month if I can find time to focus on it... still have some xchain / freewallet updates to get out first.
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Lol you know what I meant. And I also agree that words matter. So, because v9.60 updated the protocol, it broke the v9.59 consensus.
Personally, I believe v9.59 is superior to v9.60. Is simpler and more elegant. Respects the eternal canvas we are all working with.
And is fully detected by anyone that wishes to update to v9.60!
The repository software can be updated without breaking the protocol. Actually, these are healthy updates, as these most likely mean optimizations and are not controversial.
I have been raising my concerns since before the release, as I learned this was going to be included in the next release and saw how it affected the product I was working on.
Are you building on Counterparty? Have you reviewed the code?
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what product are you working on and how does this affect it?
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I launched https://bitST.ART September 1, 2022
And https://www.xcp.dev has been live since yesterday, but is not really ready for public release for multiple reasons…
But I decided to announce it (as alpha) in this chat because it was appropriate for the conversation. Being able to actually SEE the protocol incompatibilities. Is mainly the issuances done with v9.60 updated/aware wallets.
No need for analogies like “the island”. Counterparty is simple and beautiful, which is why I care when I see an update that I still believe is NOT an improvement.bitSTARTDiscover Bitcoin Art [Counterparty / Ordinals / NFTs]
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is this a block explorer, or something else beyond that?
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xcp.dev is looking awesome
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Thank you so much I really appreciate it
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Yes a Counterparty data explorer, and it will be open source
- 13 November 2022 (21 messages)
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Okay
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Are you a bot?
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Yes looks like
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Bots have to tell you they’re bots
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Little trick
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I think we’ve all gotten so numb to identifying scams we don’t realize how ridiculous it is
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I feel bad for normies that got into blockfi and just had no idea they were gonna have to leave at some point before it exploded
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this guy is bt
- 14 November 2022 (127 messages)
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You are a legend!!!
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humbled and still don't know anything.. you guys are helping all the way my fren!
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thank you fren
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thanks ken! I still gotta frame all your physical artworks you sent me!
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thanks! been working hard behind the scene, you guys keep it going
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running out of wall space, thinking of putting yours on the ceiling in my office lol
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best viewing for laying down lol
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well no laying down in my office
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but its about the only open wall space left lol
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some frames even have multiple pieces in them, i take them down and rotate the pieces from time to time lol
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its still an honor no matter the view
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its an honor to have them! will you be at the 2023 conference?
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thats cool
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yes both Hitomi and i are working hard on new artworks just for Miami
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awesome! we will be there as well
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BEER!
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maybe more printers this time lol - not sure how many we can get away with before we start tripping breakers lol
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yes sir!
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BRDLSSCRN, Beardless Crone
https://t.me/fauxsogs
Series 4 Card 13
Dispenser : https://xchain.io/tx/f407b898ffbebeb41b6428b21ef3ca781a7a70b0bb8394ecd4b28c80e19976b1 -
Rare Pepe "PEPEJUICE" needs a new home.
https://xchain.io/tx/7b4765e17117d1167be24586424b2b7b5831b3431e2ec05bc67f2a5c63bcbab6 -
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german ?
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but xcp mcap (
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but, xcp still low mcap
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we need xcp pump
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I think a more important step would be new listings on the exchanges because no one trusts Dextrade. and I hope they wouldn’t produce new tokens, on the contrary, they need to focus on the development of one good product, and not be scattered into dozens of useless ones
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exchanges are needed for greater acceptance as dispensers can be difficult to understand for most.
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We have Bitcoin, XCP, Pepecash. I think it's more than enough
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😂
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it would be nice to develop extensions like Metamask and DeFi ecosystem for XCP with liquidity pools (xcp/btc, xcp/pepecash, btc/pepecash etc.) and decentralized exchanges. I believe the preparation for this is already in the roadmap, so you just need to hold
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crack on then :)
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Yes you are right
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This space is NOWHERE near ready for mass adoption. And you end up destabilizing urself for people too stupid to see it as a favor.
They will shoot themselves in the dick and then blame the gun manufacturer.
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I'm a new person... but I would personally like xcp to stay exactly how it is.
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Even Wally The Wallet... thats my mfing dog.
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I gave him a voice and everything
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I've always been curious what my FreeWallet character would sound like.... feel free to post your interpretation here... I also have the original logo design that came with a bunch of variations (santa hat, baseball cap, stoned, etc)... tho I figured a stoned looking character is prolly not the best to represent a wallet, so went with the innocent looking smily guy..... I haven't named him til now but "Wally the wallet" has a nice ring to it 😛
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Fam I've developed an entire character around this that I do on my show weekly
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I feel like there is a @robotlovecoffee tutorial that can happen here. Lol
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😂
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Looks like @jp_janssen owns the WALLY asset, might be able to coordinate and get with him to create something/do a release of the character?
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Screw exchanges. XCP is the exchange protected by Bitcoin.
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Id be happy to swap WALLY for WOLVERINE.
I accidentally broadcast a design to wolverine in 2015, only to find it was taken by jdog already .. Just for full transparency, it may become valuable. -
Haha Wow love the history, would be cool to see both tokens become available.
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Sounds like a fair swap to me... where do you want WOLVERINE asset ownership transferred to? (FYI, the asset was issued as divisible 8+ years ago, but thanks to CIP3 implemented in 9.60.0 you should be able to reset the token to non-divisible and use it as an NFT if you choose) 🙂
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I'll dig up my cold storage tomorrow and DM you.
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I'll prolly allow ppl to submit WALLY designs and will issue subassets for the different designs n send the supply to the artist (minus a few for my collection) 🙂
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👏 awesome, sounds like fun
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Why not do satoshi NFTs? CIP3 as implemented was a bad move, like if there is no understanding of the eternal canvas we are working with.
The name is the art.
The address is the art.
The quantity is the art.
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Because people prefer to have actual non-divisible NFTs.... not have to do a "hack" of 0.00000001... CIP3 solves this.
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CP isn’t just an art protocol. It’s a financial platform and some of these pre registered assets may need divisibility or not.
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yes, I created this unique item to be the first single satoshi NFT.... because no one in 6+ years has done it on CP... further proving the point, ppl don't want to do satoshi NFTs...... mine is the only one that exists on the platform... ppl want their NFTs to be non-divisible, CIP3 provides that option.... if ppl wanted to do satoshi NFTs instead of non-divisible NFTs, you would see many more satoshi NFTs on the platform.
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Screw exchanges...hodl Pepes, Wojaks and Bitcoin.
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I issued this one.
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correct... you issued it.. and I purchased it in auction from ya... forgot about that 😛
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all Hail the visionary Xcer 😛
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Lolll
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CIP3 is the hack, in the protocol!
Instead of updating the client side applications to treat satoshi NFTs in integers, like bitSTART (and… wait for it… Counterparty!), protocol was broken based on an interpretation of the protocol.
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Juan, Many of us are aware of your views on CIP3 and your dislike for 9.60..... Many in the community have talked with you at length on this topic for months, yet you continue on with advocating for running an old 9.59 version because of your dislike for CIP3.
Now is usually the point where the party running the minority version of software names their fork, and creates a block explorer/wallet/website/channels to support their fork... Please discontinue advocating users use 9.59 here. We have been very tolerant of your viewpoint to date.
If you want to run a fork of Counterparty, you should do the appropriate thing and name your fork (ie, "CounterpartyJuan - Juans True Vision") and take your discussions on your fork to your own channel.
CIP3 and oracled dispensers have been implemented in Counterparty (9.60.0) and will not be rolled back. Your more than welcome to run whatever version of Counterparty you would like, however unless your running the latest version 9.60, your ledger will not match. If you want your ledger to match your going to have to put out an update which addresses the ledger differences (CIP3 issuances not supported, oracled dispensers not supported, dispensers selling items at different prices on 9.59 than 9.60, resulting in different dispensers/dispenses/credits/debits/balances/etc)
My sincere hope is that eventually you come around to the majority view that CIP3 is an improvement and get back on the main Counterparty release, but if you continue to believe CIP3 is bad and advocate for running a CP fork, please do so in your own channels. Please consider this your friendly warning 🙂 -
Official Dank Rares
Just set up a dispenser which will be dispensing both SAMPEPE & CZPEPE for 0.0018 BTC
DISPENSER
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I’m going to respond to this with a question to the chat.
Do you think is better to boot me from here, or have someone critical of the details most of you don’t verify?
I was ignored to just allow the release to happen and time pass. I have been critical from before the release. You have already silenced me. You already “won” from your perspective, or do you really feel there is a threat here…?
Chat, do you want to hear me yes or no? If I receive zero positive feedback I’ll even leave voluntarily.
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You were not ignored Juan, You were in the minority view that CIP3 was negative for Counterparty. CIP3 was proposed 8+ years ago, and the community feels it is an improvement as it allows for correcting issuance mistakes. Please stop trying to push the narrative that you were ignored, your views were heard, and many other community members can testify to this point. You were not ignored, majority just disagreed with you.
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Which is fine, nothing wrong with holding to your convictions and beliefs. I am simply asking that you do things in the correct/responsible/respectful way as clearly your advocating people run something other than "Counterparty" which is on 9.60.... so, please name your fork to avoid future confusion, and move your discussion to your own channels. This is not about trying to silence you, and I am sorry you have that viewpoint.
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Those arguments are not what I am critical about. Is the specific implementation, it was badly designed and made the protocol worse. From my perspective, it is not an improvement.
So, I’m just another node continuing to run the superior version which is the non-updated node. The update broke v9.59 protocol, v9.60 is the “fork”.
All actions can be seen in https://www.xcp.dev
Here people can learn about how Counterparty works. I’m actually pumped of the opportunity to teach about how these disagreements work in Bitcoin. You all know this is no “crypto fork”. All data is the same in Bitcoin.
And the saddest part here, I actually believe you all know that what I am doing is actually good for the long term of the project. But because short term it doesn’t benefit, you seem to prefer to continue a bad choice… -
Every counterparty update is essemtially a hard fork and there is an activation block at a future date to allow for nodes and exchanges to update. please promote your old fork in another channel. -
Ok OG
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The best updates don’t break protocol
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but your running .59 which had to be updated cause it was breaking it at one time?
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I’ll happily talk the technical details in the dev chat. I’m not interested in getting too hot here, I really prefer to keep the communication open
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just don’t promote your minority fork here. thx
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Who kicked me out of the dev chat? Or asking this will get me kicked out from here too?
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I did, give you time to think
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Respect just for being up front
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We’re running in circles so I think it’s time for a break, mod decisions aren’t always popular but sometimes gotta make a call
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Yeah I get it, I’m glad I don’t have to make those calls though. And I’ll continue building cool CNTRPRTY stuff
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0.60 happened. A net positive upgrade imo.
Fair to disagree but MA is correct, advocating for .59 now is an attack.
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If someone advocating to help make the protocol more decentralized is an attack, then we are just looking at this in 2 completely different lens.
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Is there a way to RBF a stuck transaction from FreeWallet?
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Do another tx with a high tx fee
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Should force previous tx to confirm in most cases
- 15 November 2022 (179 messages)
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FYI... I just pushed up some updates to the address page on xchain.io... I added an "assets" tab which lists off all the assets which are owned by the address... this should make it much easier to view/browse a list of what assets a specific address owns.... the "Balances" tab is still the default tab tho, since that is what most people want to see when they land on the address page.
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nice one!
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Question J DOG, is it possible to ‘link to tab’ as such? like have the active tab be refrenced (linkable) in the url ?
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eg: “/dispensers" at the end of the xchain addy url
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so the link directs straight to the address and lands on the dispenser page.
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not currently... but I spose I could add some code to detect something like xchain.io/address/abc123?active=assets
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gimme a few minutes
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would be very useful IMO.
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done... you can specify the active tab with the param "active" or "tab"
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fek, amazing bro, have wanted that for so long!
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good suggestion 🙂
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amazing work, will have to grab another blackbox token for this one heh
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done! thanks again.
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cool theme... you should submit a pull request to for that to freewallet 🙂
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also.. FYI... I just pushed up an update to the assets page to allow specifying active tab as well
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thanks man, never quite 100% finished it, but got very close.
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ah man so good!
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this was as far as I got lol
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looks very cool... I always planned on implementing different themes and just tweaking the colors of various freewallet-theme-xxx.css files... but, haven't found time yet.
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yeh takes a lot of time, would be cool though.
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6 cards left on the dispenser of PEPEMOTION, series 11 fake rare. A smol tribute to the truly historical nfts :) https://xchain.io/tx/551bd19a12b0bf5743344aeea4003e4eab331bada36361c328a5ef8401b7f4ae -
xchain didn't drop your tx.... there are 5 separate xchain servers and your request is routed to a different one each time.... one or more of the servers must not be seeing your transaction because it has not been relayed throughout the entire BTC network yet.. just because a tx doesnt' show up on xchain does't mean it doesn not exist.... best to check your tx in a traditional block explorer like blockstream.info or blockchair.com to see where you are in the mempool queue 🙂
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Also... when CP mempool gets very busy, it updates less frequently... under low loads we update the mempool every few seconds (it is intense, deletes all records from mempool then re-creates them).... so, under heavier mempool loads, we update the mempool less frequently to allow the server to spend its time processing txs and not just sucking up all CPU deleting/recreating hundreds of mempool records every second...... This also explains why at times you can have a transaction mined and show up as processed on xchain, but also have it still appear in CP mempool.... until the next cycle when the mempool records are updated and the tx is ejected from the mempool
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a boring day
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2 first wallets
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17PPv7Wv3yZiRPNqtszFBfws9pNUTxmyT2
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Make it three
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Jsyk counterparty has a room for shilling and give-aways
@xcpfaucet
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Rare Pepes 🐸 Fake Rare 🐸 Frens
🚨 MAJOR LIQUIDATION SALES🚨
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Yes. It's on twitter tomorrow.
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has no balls
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cant handle any critic
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CIP3 concern: immutability in Bitcoin · Issue #54 · CounterpartyXCP/cips
I have concerns with CIP3, but I'm fairly new to Counterparty, so let me know if there is any misunderstanding in the following (and in the second part there are actual questions). Followin...
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anyone see this as an issue raise your hand
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make a big shit of it in true vision chat
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I ant hard to find
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yes duncan is true vision xcp foundation
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where you get kicked if you dont put up with his stalin shit
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You are an enemy of counterparty!
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I thought that was Juan
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Finkle is Einhorn?
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You are all an enemy of bitcoin
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Oh ya? U got kicked too? I got booted for answering questions about “security issues” Duncan was bringing up in dms with ppl…. Joe and I explained his “issue” was probably just chromes auto-complete feature caching previous entries (like a pasted private key), and we created an issue to disable the auto-complete feature on the password/passphrase/private key fields…. Guess he didn’t like that answer 😜
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CIP3 concern: immutability in Bitcoin · Issue #54 · CounterpartyXCP/cips
I have concerns with CIP3, but I'm fairly new to Counterparty, so let me know if there is any misunderstanding in the following (and in the second part there are actual questions). Followin...
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this is the convo, I mean really
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if anyone thinks that divisbilty reset is a huge issue
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not sure what to say
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and if you want to do the updates a different way, then map it out
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if you want more time, then lets set a time for each update
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