- 12 December 2023 (85 messages)
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Technical Specification | Counterparty
Read API Function Reference
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1 + 2 = 3
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So flags in a good sense, not in a bad one. Perfect.
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Sweep tokens w/o ownership = 1
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Maths
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If I ever have to flea the country, I can take my pepes with me. Anyone have a condom and a long piece of string I can borrow?
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Yes, I made my own custom lock screen
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You don't have any left over from the Legomotos?
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This little bugger has $5 of BTC and $362m of jpgs on it (as reported by xchain).
- 13 December 2023 (143 messages)
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I support the creation of a new foundation.
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I am a cryptographic programmer and entrepreneur. also.
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foundation for funding?3F🙋
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3F?
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it might be nice foundation's main priority is to get some money for dev marketing.etc if so would like to help otherwise just talk no productive
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Yep, funding would be great, do you have any ideas that might appeal to the WeChat BTNS users?
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in fact they are funding counterparty with their own way , i mean money from institute sponsor
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Could you elaborate? Is their institutional involvement in the BTNS party over there?
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Personally I'd like to see a diverse market, apart from unisat BRC20s being dominated by Asians, I'd like to help counterparty, dogeparty
All get technological upgrades. The site interaction and programming can be more efficient and cleaner. I hope to see counterparty become more united and full of vitality and joy. -
that's what i am doing now...and you guys can see what gonna happen next
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That'd be cool. How do you see us getting there?
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Money drives us there
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That all sounds pretty good.
Are the BTNS users well informed about CP/XCP?
It seems like with your language skills and understanding of these markets you could help spread awareness and get more people involved (and hopefully more funding). -
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hi all! good day to us
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dispensers
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Can you give me the link?
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click dispensers tab... green = open / selling xcp
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DYOR
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thank you
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Here's a list of verified dispensers that won't rug you: https://scarce.city/niftys-verified-dispensers by our own @Niftyboss1.
Though I'm not sure if we beat the rugspenser problem already?Scarce CityAn online marketplace for Bitcoin goods and Bitcoin NFTs
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Let’s get this party started (Counterparty ❤️🎉)
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https://t.me/xcpdesk
This should be a good place to find safe (verified) dispensers. As an experiment try grabbing a few xcp from a verified dispenser. -
We need to get xcp more widely circulating
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Vivek⚡️ (@Vivek4real_) on X
The Federal Reserve is nothing federal and has no reserves. They rob you from your wealth and from your savings and that’s immoral. It’s not only immoral but it also destroys some basic economic principles like saving.” - @nayibbukele Opt-out with #Bitcoin
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Can anyone tell me if counterwallet is closed?
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Won't be surprised if taproot script lengths are eventually limited, although that would just mess with large inscriptions, not BRC-20.
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Can anyone tell me when counterwallet restarts?
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Holy sh1te it sounds like the wechat bros have not even heard of XCP 😭😭😭
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Xiaobo and Xcer, U guys gotta get in there and spread the gospel
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DM me if any of you would like to join wechat counterparty xchain group
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I can help scan the invite qr when you register wechat if you don't have any friend with wechat
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Lei-Ge,
I've just dropped by the Xchain Counterparty WeChat group a few times, and it seems that quite a few of the members have never heard of XCP.
Are they now engaged in trading/investing that has no connection to counterparty and XCP, or do you think it would benefit them to understand counterparty and XCP? -
I'm guessing there are not many or any Chinese language introductions to Counterparty and XCP.
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If I send a counterparty asset to an Opendime wallet will the contents of that Opendime be visible on xchain?
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Yes this is a problem, docs are really outdated
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I've saw them in the WTHD auction
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Any idea if the asset is viable or useful in game?
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Looks like they are using polygon now for the game
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Bitcoin usb wallet people used to put Pepe’s on
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Then I think that yes of course
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I have no clue. My bet would be it didn't pan out
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yeah and satscard will work too
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Scarecity item featuring opendime
https://scarce.city/marketplace/physical/PEPENATION-displayPEPENATION DisplayAn online marketplace for Bitcoin goods and Bitcoin NFTs
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Nice! I always saw those lil usb sticks and was curious bout them. Thanks for the clarification
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Question: Was there a narrative of forking xcp if there was a xcp fee implemented to create numeric assets?
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If so, im curious the reasoning for doing this as opposed to trying to support XCP itself
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smug fuckery
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tbh
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what was the reason
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just "we arent buying xcp to mint a token"
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the point was that bitcoin stamps wanted to be just needed bitcoin to mint to be able to reach more people and easier to explain
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cant speak to that... or rather.. dont want to cause unecessary drama.. we're past the drama now... no desire to revisit it... but, if you care to review for yourself... here is the link to the message where I drop the XCP Fee PR in CP dev channel... after that, you can read for yourself. https://t.me/Counterparty_Dev/6428J-Dog in Official Counterparty Dev Chat
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0029.md
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sounds like a fat bag of shit
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a reinvented wheel that doesnt exist or more or less cherry picked the xcp git
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another fat bag of shit
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i think im talking to you with respect if is not reciproque i wont talk again no need to hear you with this kind of words
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im being realistic
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doesnt need to be worded any other way just trying to keep it simple
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I guess opensource
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working on releasing and open source indexer for stamps ecosistem
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thats not even the point though I thought prunable was a feature but I guess the grift is too strong
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I guess prunable is now an "attack vector" am i rite
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thats what im trying to figure out why grift
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no but marketing SRC and trying to spin off a reinvented wheel with a 100m mcap piece of shit is
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this has nothing to do with ordinals
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this has nothing to do with ETH
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wheres the source code for bitcoin stored?
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in centralized servers and running on thousend of nodes at the moment
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do jpeg's need 100%^2 uptime lmao?
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you are just strawmanning anyways
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smelling your fat bag of shit I guess
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well obviously because its a grift on your end and not mine
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Im not grifting anyone, i dont like src20 neither, i dont hold any of them as i dont like shitcoins but i like perdurability, and posiblities of decentralized assets with all the information on chain, this is why im here, i like counterparty also a good platform to learn and experiment and hopefully a good place to contribute code that is what i really love but im trying to understand why are you telling this is a grift bc i dont understand what is the difference between this and the pepe you have as pfp, stored in the same protocol but with a centralized service holding the image
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its an ordinal
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you seem to be advocating for it more or less so only directed where it needs to go
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you make it sound like you are producing an indexer for src
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and involved in the code
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lol dao's
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So how about those MPMA transactions folks?
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you still ducked the xcp fee for numeric assets
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and then threatened to fork lmao
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not me ser i wasnt so involved at that moment but i think was propossed to do a retroactive burn of xcp for all the stamps minted if im not wrong that was desestimated but i hadnt any word at this moment on it
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so dont act like its all cake and cookies
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okay well someone did
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them/they
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sorry pronouns
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Also src20 are not in counterparty anymore so dont be worry of them is not your problem anymore. And for your info at the opensource indexer there are named stamps too (and they have paid the xcp fee to issue with the minners fee to embeed all the data in bitcoin ledger) i am the one who is more pushing and building to make named stamps available as i told you i dont mind how to create them i mind the art on chain forever in the biggest chain. THE END
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there was only one issue I wanted to address the fact they/them threatened to fork if a xcp fee for numerics was implemented
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which there should be anyways
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they didnt but in the case they would like to do it they were in their right to do it, are you blaming etc or bsv or bitcoin cash or doge or mariadb or open nextjs or any other thousand of opensource protocol that has forked when some changes didnt like a part of the people using it?
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who's up?
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bro u bot?
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anyway i see xcp fee like a payment to have the name you want for your asset, in most protocols there is a free tier where you cant choose your domain and they assign you one random, hard to remember and with nosense names so if there is a reason to put a xcp fee on numericals i dont see a reason for them to exist
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lol this change wasn't that complicated, rejecting it is just poor character
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and there in lies the fact that your underlying beliefs about the overall XCP ecosystem itself and supporting it arent there
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free to grift
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basically
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Vote 🦄 if you want me to ban blue bitcoin.
Vote 🌭 if you don't want me to not ban blue bitcoin. -
none the less silly and besides the point, src/stamp needed something to crutch off of, otherwise if the best interest was to launch its own ecosystem and fork, it would have
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no the best possible solution was to screw benefitting the xcp ecosystem because of some shady garbage closed source code running in the back that could maybe compete later on and just bitch about not paying a fee
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meanwhile still trying to step from the XCP ecosystem/community and just use its protocol in the meantime while another grift is in the works
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tbf without the full support of @hodlencoinfield and @jdogresorg from day 1 stamps wouldn't have existed the first place.
It was certainly offered to retroactively burn XCP tokens for prior minted stamps if you read the history. However all the mentioned parties didn't care about XCP price, and didn't hold any sizable bags so that was never pursued. The fear of potential database growth outweighed any benefits of XCP burn at that point. If stamps are a grift then the entire CP ecosystem is a grift by that measure.
Nothing here is 'screwing' the XCP community out of anything. Perhaps it even sped up some dev work and features that got pushed out that benefitted everyone (albeit imo a little rushed, but good stuff) - all credit due to Jdog and Javier.
What's the point of stirring up drama that is behind us? Stamps has brought a lot of eyeballs to CP and imo we are growing together. More devs are getting into the CP code, and more public CP nodes are coming online (xcp.dev API, along with a stampchain CP API) for EVERYONE to use for free. It's a win for everyone. IF the community at large determines XCP fees are a necessity I'm sure the stamps community will figure out what makes sense IF the time comes. No set plans or expectations either way. -
I consider that the devs' time is valuable and they should not be talking about whether or not something should be in CP or not. and keep the devs away from all that unnecessary drama....
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I put it back on the table to create the foundation again, to which I am willing to provide resources to make this possible.
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a great plan to gather consensus from the community on different ideas and to help devs to prioritize
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So a committee of people organise and create the ideas that the Devs must then bring to life.
Their (the Devs) input shall be limited to "it does/does not work as expected" and fix accordingly. Any problems that may arise will of course be the Devs fault (bad coding naturally) and the nebulous ideas that the Committee seek to bring to life are fine as they are and it's merely a matter of time , say two weeks, before the Devs have fixed everyting to enable the idea to come to life.
If not, the Committee will fire the Devs and start again. - 14 December 2023 (268 messages)
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Sounds like fun.
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devs will always just build what they want to build, a foundation or committee that attempts to dictate code changes is DOA
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small incremental changes are the way to build consensus, and i think despite the arguments and fork risk we've seen in counterparty, cooler heads have always prevailed and we've been able to keep the protocol running relatively stable the last nearly 10 years
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The only way a committee works is one driven by devs.
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is it really a committee at that point?
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the problem we ran into in the past was there was a foundation that accepted donations and then the people donating wanted their voices heard wrt changes in the protocol
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Agree these shitcoin grifters need to gtfo
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which i can totally understand, but it became a flawed mechanism
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I am a dev and I can tell you that many times as devs we want to implement new ideas and build new things. and to achieve success, good advice is required, in this case from the community and the consensus that you we want to reach.
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good ideas will rise to the top, you dont need a committee to decide them
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A foundation not only requires that the committee be technical devs, alse need legal and financial advice to optimize resources and prioritize objectives. and that is the reason why most crypro foundations end...
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im old enough to remember the bitcoin foundation 😁
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the grift is src, and either working out the kinks in a reformatter or just keeping it dark to leverage against xcp. The top part doesn't even make sense regarding your statement. The db growth potential is because there isn't a fee. Regardless though, if you struggle to see the benefit of implementing a fee for numerics I think that speaks for itself. I guess he wasted the time making a CIP just for keks and giggles.
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Hard to imagine anything of value coming from you all's end if there was this much trouble about a 0.25 xcp fee. Progress will be absolutely stagnant with nothing but malignant incentives from peoples intentions
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Hence the reason jdog said hes done
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You will have a thin road to walk going forward imo (maybe im wrong) given that you are new show up and start stuff and try to be passive aggressive about it and then the person that's dedicated time and put a lot of energy into making something 'dope' say fuck you
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Hi kids.
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Balance will not be achieved as long as dev's believe themselves to be untouchables. Unfortunate that the most vocal users are unwilling to have an authentic discussion. Yet have the audacity to claim consensus
Anyone is welcome to discuss plans here @xcpfoundation or their own foundation forum. Alas, this is not really the venue for professional discussion. -
Because the market views xcp as a shitcoin. Right or wrong, that's the perception. It's the reason why the common belief is that "Ordinals are the first Bitcoin NFTs" and most Bitcoiners have never heard of Counterparty. Without sounding too grandiose, I believe the marketing tactic we used was hugely successful by every possible metric. My Op-Ed in Bitcoin Magazine drops in the print edition next month. Watch for it.
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A lot of fun Counterparty history in the article as well.
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'market' - hypeboys / 'common belief' - grift projection... but still an ironic/oxymoronic way of reasoning.. i.e. its not a shitcoin so lets not do anything to fix 'market' perception or alter the 'common belief'
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That's not my job. My job is to launch a successful project not rehabilitate the image of xcp. Sorry, that's not my job.
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so you, or they/them try to leverage src in the background?
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you cant say the two arent intertwined
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I hold almost zero SRC20. I could care less how it does.
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I'd prefer it went away, tbh, and the focus returned to the art
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thats a nice narrative
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see if it sticks
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its true. I didn't mint anything really. I'm much more interested in the art applications like AI Stamps and SRC-721
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you would think that these two things go hand in hand
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No, like I said, the market wants a pure "Bitcoin" play. That's obvious. Beyond the ideological aspect, its so much easier to onboard when new users don't have to hunt down a token they can just use Bitcoin directly
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so art with no token essentially
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well the art has tokens: counterparty assets. Those are necessary to sell/trade
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right
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unless you used ordinals
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That exists. A lot of people in that ecosystem. I tried to carve out my own little niche. My little fiefdom, if you will.
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its still misleading to say xcp wasn't already pure bitcoin
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it just didn't keep 50 pixels on it for you
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I'm not saying it, the market is saying it. I've been very complimentary about Counterparty. I shit on Ordinals all the time.
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im glad that stamps worked the way they did
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hence my pfp
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you did good
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there still needs to be a fee for numeric assets though
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That was mulled over substantially and while I do agree with it in principle, the consensus among the devs was that the amount of "spam" being generated because of numeric assets was less of an issue than turning numeric asset users off from Counterparty completely.
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I guess it comes down to whether you view usage and users as "spam". Most projects would love to have an influx of traffic because there are always ways to monetize that traffic at the edges. But yeah, you can get rid of all the "spam" and have a ghost town like Raretoshi.
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by turning users off, you mean a few devs using a hostile fork and representing the majority in their decision and probably intertwining it with SRC then yeah
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so you think XCP would have been obsolete if you all forked and mass printed 50 pixel assets on the stampchain fork?
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A broad oversimplification but OK
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XCP or Counterparty are you referring to?
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when you say Counterparty do you mean the network or the code
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Counterparty isn't going anywhere, there is a small but dedicated community (which I consider myself apart of) that has kept it alive for a decade. Longer than any other token project that I'm aware of. But it is small. Stamps is small, too, btw. Ordinals is Goliath. Ordinals has all the mindshare and devs and marketplaces and modern tooling. Stamps has already brought a little of that to Counterparty. Check out xcp.ninja for instance. That's the result of attracting new devs to Stamps. It's a modern explorer/marketplace/wallet that works really well. Compare that with Counterparty (and I mean no disrespect here) but the tools are very dated and clunky. It scares new users off.
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Here you can actually see Counterparty Collections!
https://xcp.ninja/collections
How cool is that???XCP Ninja, the counterparty reference.Explore a wide range of Counterparty assets through a powerful search engine. Tools such as minting, directories and more.
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Here's a Leaderboard of all the top addresses and what they hold:
https://xcp.ninja/leaderboard
How cool is that???XCP Ninja, the counterparty reference.Explore a wide range of Counterparty assets through a powerful search engine. Tools such as minting, directories and more.
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Royalties for the first time on Counterparty. How cool is that???
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Yes I have looked, its all great to see new things and resources
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I would consider freewallet pretty good for the amount of stuff it has to incorporate
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gimping XCP when everything is already there for it to do what it needs though is cutting it short
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no one even leverages the tech properly
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thats the sad part
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and the person that doing the most stopped, thats problematic
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100% its a swiss army knife and it works great on a desktop computer. I love it. But mobile is lacking... I don't think I'm saying anything controversial here, and in 2023 mobile is *critical*
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can you run core on mobile? I get it but mobile is such a pile of fuckery be honest
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I mean I get it but still
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bro... its 2023... its just the way it is... some people only have phones... no computer
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probably not worth putting people at risk anyways
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the original rarepepewallet.com was designed with mobile in mind
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at risk? we're all using hot wallets with freewallet.... I doubt many use HWW
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i remember arguments with mike because it wasnt a native app
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and people love native apps
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accounting for all the different OS, gl
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Was just about to mention that. The guy who got me into collecting Rare Pepes demo'd it for me, worked like a charm from his phone, and that was years ago.
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I still love native apps... web apps have a way of losing state so you have to login again constantly...
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keeping a scope in mind of well the hypebois use mobile is missing the bigger picture at large
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@hodlencoinfield remember that call we had with Bitcoin Magazine... this was probably late 2021/ early 2022.... they were so gung-ho to have a Counterparty presence at their conference, even toying with the idea of a token at entry. But the big sticking point was a lack of mobile support.
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Its not just hypebois... this is the world... the world has been mobile-first for a decade
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rebrand graphene and BTS another 100 times with different graphics I guess
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it honestly doesnt matter because there are bigger obstructions of outside control that are in the way besides a mobile wallet
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or hypebois perception of what markets are
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I mean ultimately if this fork off situation plays out and counterparty maintains supremacy, stamps become bitcoin cash and Mike becomes Roger Ver and we all forget about him by 2026
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Doesn’t that just make counterparty stronger?
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Multimillionaire living in St. Kitts? I'll take it.
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A lot of Ordinals projects are V.C.-backed, which is why a lot of capital has flooded that space. That means capital for development & marketing.
VCs aren't as likely to bother with Counterparty because they want something they can control from the ground up. Which just isn't possible with XCP.
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you could say the same thing about bitcoin 13 years ago
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'chasing hype' lolz
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RIP indiesquare
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it was such a great wallet
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Book of Orbs. Really dug the skeuomorphism
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yep
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indiesquare had a way to create assets tho and you could add an icon
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if only they let you add a whole picture
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anyone tried this? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/casa-tookan/id1435616326Casa Tookan
Casa Tookan, EverdreamSoft next-generation dual-chain wallet, simplifies the management of your digital assets. This new Bitcoin-Ethereum mobile wallet for blockchain gamers & collectors securely and privately store your digital assets and collections. Your digital estate is protected by a secure 1…
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does it still work?
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i remember i downloaded it a while ago
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still in the app store... idk
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You know what I should download Spells of Genesis and actually play it for once
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Spells of Genesis uses Tookan
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You have to send BITCRYSTALS to it in order to transfer your blockchainzed cards out to your ETH or counterparty wallet
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I think I have some bitcrystals somewhere
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Speaking of old CP wallets, I just stumbled upon this while doing something else... @jp_janssen was always ahead of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9mUWeXpaocCounterTools Spells of Genesis EditionCounterTools SoG is a Counterparty wallet designed for Spells of Genesis card collectors
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I love how CounterTools all run locally in your browser. You don't need to set-up a server or anything.
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the grift is in SRC? What's the difference in the grift from BTNS which is very closely linked to CP? How is this solely about SRC? What's your beef here really besides just stirring up shit?
For the record I do personally agree with XCP fee for the numerical assets, however much it does not align with the stamps community or the stamps meme. I would definitely err on the side of the status quo unless there is a very broad consensus within CP on the decision - which there is not.
All of this XCP fee talk brings up a big unknown within the stamps community. Would the users support the fee and carry on, go elsewhere, or demand that stamps shift into a fork of CP without the fee? Those were all the unknowns and user demand we were contending with during rapid growth. A fee could also increase the value of historical stamps since they would become more costly to create in the future as a benefit to collectors. Even just shutting down the project and archiving the numeric bitcoin stamps as an overall collection was an option to grow value. It's not a simple choice, lots of things to be weighed for both stamps and CP as whole. We chose to keep building and become more involved in growing both ecosystems.
Otherwise shove all this grifting nonsense up your ass. For my financial benefit I would prefer the xcp fee at the highest rate for all CP trx in perpetuity if it were all about a grift. The worst case it may at least slow down adoption and decrease the need for rapid development and ease database performance issues. LIkely rapidly increasing value of all historical assets which is another win for the grift lol -
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I would like to get 5 different assets from 5 different dispensers. If I import my counterparty wallet priv key to Electrum and initiate 1 "pay to many" transaction (sending funds to all 5 dispensers with 1 tx) will that work with the dispensing part? (ie will the 5 dispensers recognize the funds -although coming from the same tx id- and dispense back the assets?). Tx fees are high ATM, and thought of not initiating 5 individual tx -one for each dispenser-
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Update has been pushed in production. It should work in theory. Don't know anyone that has tested it. Feel free to and give some feedback 👀🔥
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well... I thought of asking first for some reassurance (maybe from someone who has done it before), since if it does not work, then I would prolly lose all the funds sent to the 5 dispensers (if no assets will get dispensed back). 😝
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your comment is a giant meme
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stop giving things credit where they aren't due, pretending like you are min-maxing rational outcomes with prefaced assumptions that everyone is aware or on the same page
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dont come at me with that shove up your ass clownery when basically one of the devs left because of your passive aggressive non sense
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keep pushing your agenda though cuck
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ironically now maybe some of us should fork the lib and direct compete against your crap
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maybe then you would fuck off and knock your crap off
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you obviously have a rough sense of markets and realistic outcomes
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also not sure why you think stamps need to dictate the narrative of XCP as a whole and are the only input
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Now we're getting somewhere
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GitHub - loon3/pepechain: Proof of Rare
Proof of Rare. Contribute to loon3/pepechain development by creating an account on GitHub.
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isn't the point of public discourse sharing points of view and coming to a collective decision. I shared my perspective and all we hear from you is slander. gtfo. There's nothing to compete with btw. So feel free to do as you wish with whatever open source code you like. I certainly won't call you a cuck for growing new communities or experimenting with different ways of doing things on bitcoin. Sounds like you need to get laid, really.
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no because you did the opposite to this one
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you still didn't answer the question. why are you so bitter about src which has non impact on CP. meanwhile BTNS is flooding the database with spam.
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you are just full of yourself though with delusional thinking
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haha coming from the guy whose most eloquent word is cuck
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its your whole approach and this passive aggressive shit and trying to leverage it against XCP when something happened you didnt like
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I thought it was grift but thanks
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and what was i trying to supposedly leverage against xcp? that's an unrealistic perspective.
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a fork
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no its really not because its what you said and its really no suprise jdog said im done dealing with you
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LOL the fork was threatened against me mutherfucker
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Not sure if I get your point here, are you proposing something? Because it seems you just neglect the work of others for some reasons. Also you complain on people being passive agressive while everyone is talking politely to you that are just agresive...
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either shut it down or xchain pushes an emergency fork. read the fkn history next time
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"We are just being forced to pull stamps away from xchain and use our own version of CP to continue. and also shift mutually beneficial dev resources elsewhere. I’d rather help fix the database problems in reality. Much easier to work together but it seems the decision has been made for us."
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still true. it was a rushed rash decision for xchain to push a fork without due preparation
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Xchain forking because of you? that doesnt even make sense
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xchain was threatening a forking because they were afraid of the database growth and potential future ramifications of such traffic/bloat from src-20 within CP as a whole. We requested time to resolve that and we all came to an agreement to avoid any such chaos. everyone has moved on besides you.
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xchain is a block explorer
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what xchain decides the rest of the community has to follow as the primary resource
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proof with the current fork that was just pushed
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Here lies the problem
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You’re new here aren’t you? Came for the stamps?
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thats not really the case, there are other stakeholders outside of xchain but its certainly a issue having only one block explorer
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the current 9.61 was a consensus change btw.
You want to see passive aggressive btw. Take a look at this asset.
https://xchain.io/search?query=FORKOFF
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Most devs are not concerned with ‘increasing value of historical assets’. That type of thinking is too near sighted for these topics.
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its a shame that every time we seem to be getting somewhere wrt working together someone has to jump in and stir the shit again
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I very much agree. Coming in it appears that XCP value has more sway. But it is clearly a stable utility. Hence more rational decisions can be made. Obviously why that has little sway in the decision to utilize XCP on numeric assets.
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What?
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i agree with you
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xcp as a historical asset as well lol. but it is a perspective
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tbh that doesnt make a lot of sense, nothing a dev does inherently increases the value of anything, the important thing IMO is to be conservative so as not to destroy the value of existing assets through consensus bugs, etc
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which is why the focus after 9.61 should be on efficiency upgrades, suring up the tech stack, building a test suite, etc
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Wtt for FORKOFF
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I’ll reword my previous statement regarding his statement. Devs should not make decisions with the intent/possibility of altering assets value up or down. The protocol needs to be agnostic to perceive value. Core Devs need to make protocol decisions neutrally.
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J Loone Brickens 🧱 (@wasthatawolf) on X
Please note the https://t.co/T5chBorvvK and https://t.co/tbPCY7prVW do not use the Ledger Connect Kit library. Please carry on.
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I'm just never going to use my brand new ledger... ever. Its insane to trust that company.
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cant say i really blame you
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i guess i should start working on integrating trezor
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it is important to note tho that when using ledger with rarepepewallet.wtf it uses the bare minimum of libraries
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hw-app-btc and hw-transport-webusb
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not only that but the hw-app-btc it uses is a fork i created to fix their signing issue with bech32 addresses
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so it can't autoupdate
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Trezor, Bitbox02, any hhw that’s going down an opensource route should be the future.
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I'm Software 🦇🔊 (@MatthewLilley) on X
What happened? In short, @Ledger made a chain of terrible blunders. 1. They are loading JS from a CDN. 2. They are not version locking loaded JS. 3. They had their CDN compromised. I would avoid using ANY dApps until their teams confirm that they have mitigated the attack.
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wen pbsts for coldcard
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ledger was added first because its the most used hww for eth nft collectors and gave them an easy on-ramp to rare pepes
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good to know everyone is just winging it
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i have a coldcard actually, still in the packaging lol
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i built rarepepewallet in a way that i can add more hww's easily
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i guess i should order a new trezor and get that process started
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Foundation looks pretty nice... its like Coldcard but with good UX
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After leaking their client addresses they should have been shunned but muh altcoins
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its still the most used hww
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I just got the new trezor safe 3 for $80 and am in the process of writing up a how-to guide for moving your CP assets to it 👍🏻
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I remember Indelible was playing around with the BitBox02 about 1.5 years ago. Him n Scrilla even had a chat with Douglas and the Bitbox team. Maybe that could be revived. 🌉
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Good thing about this one is you can choose “Bitcoin only” as the firmware. And it has a secure chip so no need for a passphrase (but that is still an option)
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shocking statistic
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eth heads arent known for best security practices
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True they are also interesting. I’d say Trezor, Bitbox02, Foundation Passport, Coldcard, Seedsigner and maybe blockstream Jade would be a good start to look at. There’s like so many more out there but those are here for a bit and afaik. stay on top of issues arising.
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supporting all of them turns into a nightmare on my side
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ill focus on trezor for now
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alright just bought a trezor safe 3 for testing
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Might be trolling, not sure...
https://x.com/udiWertheimer/status/1735308883160100996?s=20Udi Wertheimer (@udiWertheimer) on Xmost tweets about ledger are wrong here’s what you need to know: ALL ACTIVE ETHEREUM WALLETS ARE AT RISK don’t connect ANY ethereum/evm wallets to ANY apps until further notice doesn’t matter if it’s a ledger or not if you didn’t use your wallet today you’re safe
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Wen PSBTs - Pepe Signed Bitcoin Transactions
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he's not wrong, people use the connect kit to connect any type of wallet software or hardware
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it also might not be limited to ETH
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shiiiiit
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Paolo Ardoino 🍐 (@paoloardoino) on X
Tether just froze the Ledger exploiter address
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Malicious ex-employee responsible for the ConnectKit malware
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probly shouldnt jump to that conclusion
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his gmail could have been compromised
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paper wallets people....
u gotta write down keywords for anything anyway so why rely on anyone else as well?
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this isnt an issue related to stealing keys
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its about signing things that are malicious txs
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the problem with eth and all the evm stuff is you're constantly giving them permissions to your wallet
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its a very bad security model
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eth was insecure code from day 1 - not sure anyone has campaigned against eth more..
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it does enable some cool things but at the expense of security
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but still should have bought some at $20..
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its all about trade-offs
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Its just so crazy. Their brand value is like 99% reputation. Doesn't matter how good the hardware is. Once you lose trust, that's the end of your company. How do they run a company like this?
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i mean you could have said that multiple times about ledger but still they are dominant market share
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i think the switching costs are just too high for people to care
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Very true.
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Many of us could be billionaires by now simply by buying into the ETH crowd sale on day one…. Some things are more important than profit and $$$… unfortunately most are in the space for the wrong reasons 🤷🏻♂️
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I’ve been waiting on the stamps indexer. Can you share?
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Still working on ser, we are close
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Rijndael (@rot13maxi) on X
Seeing the Ledger news? Quick TLDR: Ethereum application ("dApp") frontends have a button to connect your wallet. The button that ledger vends to connect your wallet had a dependency get compromised and replaced with a wallet drainer. So if you go to a website that has that…
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I'm Software 🦇🔊 (@MatthewLilley)
What happened? In short, @Ledger made a chain of terrible blunders. 1. They are loading JS from a CDN. 2. They are not version locking loaded JS. 3. They had their CDN compromised. I would avoid using ANY dApps until their teams confirm that they have mitigated the attack.
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should have done it... 😉
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2w120g/help_me_set_up_a_new_exchange/From the Bitcoin community on RedditExplore this post and more from the Bitcoin community
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crypsy exchange threatened to sue us, then of course turned out to be a scam lol
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was that big vern?
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think so
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my favorite shit exchange from back in the day was bter
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So, stamps are still ‘in counterparty’ and very much a counterparty thing. I have been saying this since day one.
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From what I’ve heard the indexer is still being written, and won’t be open sourced until they collect enough funds… sidenote… BTNS indexer was written for free seven months ago and published at no cost… including an explorer, etc.
Everyone involved in CP is entitled to their own interest and building their own projects, and funding them how they best see fit.
Some relatively new devs in the community have fundamentally different approaches to building open source software…. Which is fine…. But I think this difference in viewpoints is what has divided the community… and pushed some devs away from CP to focus energy elsewhere.
I think CP will be fine, it’s in good hands with @hodlencoinfield @shannoncode @jp_janssen … they all have been with CP since the early days, have watched CP struggle and grow, and have a good grasp of the current status and community desires.
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It’s funny how much counterparty drama or history is captured in cards…. Someday we will all have to sit down and have a fireside chat and document some of this little known counterparty history and drama.
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Eh, I thought it was pretty funny… “fork your mother if you want to fork”…. OGs get the reference n context🤷🏻♂️😜
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TEST 10 panel talk? I’ll take notes 👍🏻 @jdogresorg @ShawnLeary
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With Bourbon.
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I dropped into the stamps chat a minute ago to take the conversation there and this is the fourth comment from the bottom…
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I lost a bunch in crypsy, the actually pretty much did what u sarcastically proposed up there back in the days.
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There are just a few hands working on this. But its almost done. That said src20 people want to get rich fast, thats all it is.
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This isn’t the right forum as src20 is not on Counterparty. That being said: if you can get at the private key you should be able to import it into freewallet
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Apologies for posting here and thank you for the reply.
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its the interaction that puts us at risk from what i understand. Can't get an STI if you are remaining celibate on a deserted island
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Which is worse, the pain or the celibacy?
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Or SeedSigner 👀 @reganhimself
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I know im an interloper
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Just an “opinionated observer”
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But an airgapped signing device for XCP assets would be amazing
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Pop Punk (@PopPunkOnChain) on X
I have no trust in Ledger anymore. Earlier this morning their hack caused me to lose 2x Mutant Ape 1x Bored Ape How could you do this to me?
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Holy merde the TX fees are going insane........
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"got 1% of xcp n 200 asset names"
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ETH is the most unsecure setup in history
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If I would have done nothing I’d probably have 100 ETH in my wallet rather than a bunch of failed shitcoins, ICO’s and jpgs 🥲
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- 15 December 2023 (41 messages)
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SHA256
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The retard spammers stamp’s inscriptions etc are actually a counterparty attack. Few understand this
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once again here...
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If I didn’t use CP, I’d prob have 100 BTC in my wallet 😂
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when are the counterwallet servers going to be live again?
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still working on a fix... counterblock has some issue with parsing the new dispenser closes n chokes... counterparty-lib works fine, but counterblock is having issues.... Javier n I have spent 3+ days working on trying to have a "hotfix" to the issue on counterblock... but no simple hotfix is working... so it'll be up when the community prioritizes and funds a fix.... freewallet.io is up and working fine.... Javier will be putting forth a PR with the details tomorrow and the community can decide how to proceed.
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lame... I am trying to access my stamps on there
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so is rpw.wtf, rarepepewallet.com, and prettymuch every other wallet except the 10 year old counterwallet software
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they are all down?
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no, all are up and working fine
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its just counterwallet
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thats down?
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yes.. just counterwallet
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😐
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freewallet, xchain, and all other wallets working fine (you can see txs on network on xchain fine)... so... cp is up, wallets are up... juts old/outdated counterwallet is down
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its simple... use some other wallet, or wait for a fix... not much else to do
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yup I guess so
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Dude easy on J-Dog, he has been holding this project together for years. Just give thanks 🙏
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Can I pull the private key from the testnet?
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freewallet works with mainnet/testnet and allows importing/exporting private keys for both networks... so yes
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yeah I dont have the private key though... I have the 12 word thing
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plug 12-word seed into freewallet.... switch to settings.. switch to testnet... done
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all addresses for testnet associated with that seed will be added to wallet... same as mainnet
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Freewallet.io Chat
This is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer
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FAQ n shiz there... take your FW questions there pls 🙂
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Is there still a community counterparty hangout or Twitter spaces that happens once in awhile?
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Damn bro saw the video, glad you’re good man
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Respect
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This isn’t the right forum as src20 is not on Counterparty
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BTNS Sat?
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I don’t think the current version of Freewallet displays BTNS tokens yet
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But you can ask the Freewallet chat to be sure
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Freewallet.io Chat
This is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer
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Hey, are there issues logging into counterwallet atm?
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Yes. Use a different wallet for now.
- 16 December 2023 (45 messages)
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The dispenser will not return a token to you. It can't sense funds being received from a taproot address (don't ask me to explain the technical reason). Bottom line: Taproot support has not yet been added to Counterparty.
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also: it's not stated, but don't use an address starting with "3" either. Use a "1" address or segwit only "bc1q"
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You're a fucking cunt teaching people to store stuff in utxo set. Burn alive for being a liar
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You realize that this is literally how Counterparty has worked for years when you do a multi-send, right?
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Opreturn is prunable
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Not talking about OP_RETURN... I'm talking about regular ol' CP when the message exceeds 80 bytes
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Did you know that even before Stamps started there are approximately 10 BTC worth of Sats stuck in the UTXO set because of Counterparty txns?
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Still permanent. Pruning is optional way to run on smaller hdd. Most cp didn't need p2ms trick.
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You're tricking ppl into using pointless expensive p2ms instead of more responsible or return or even witness data that's not in utxo set
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Bc of made up fear that block data is not permanent
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Reason stamps exists is literally retarded
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GM, can someone have a look at this please?
Below assets are from green banner rare coco directory, I can’t see any of them on xchain. Why is it?
For me they are now worthless, how do you explain this to collectors who just want to collect instead of digging in GitHub for hours? Thanks.
https://xchain.io/asset/VANCOCOGH
https://xchain.io/asset/COCOBASQUIAT
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He's the foundation that keeps out the etherium barbarians at the gate (and also inspires btc ppl to spam the btc block chain with memes lol)
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Do you happen to know -have you tried - if I import my counterparty wallet priv key to Electrum and initiate 1 "pay to many" transaction (sending funds to many dispensers with 1 tx) will that work with the dispensing part? (ie will the different dispensers recognize the funds -although coming from the same tx id- and dispense back the assets?). Tx fees are high ATM, and thought of not initiating many individual tx -one for each dispenser-
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your stamps are ghey
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lol I don’t think we know how you feel yet
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I think more trans than ghey… being cross-platform n all🤷🏻♂️
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And they’re beautiful
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Fake and Ghey, I’m told.
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binary
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There’s a reason they call them tramp stamps
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Dank Stamps going to the moon bro
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Bobo is your fren
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I just find the crab bucket mentality and the holier than thou attitude very amusing. The same forces vilifying Stamps have no love for OP_RETURN pointers either. It’s viewed as “slightly less bad” at best. But go on telling me my thing is stupid and evil.
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And don’t get me started on how this situation perfectly mirrors the 2014 OP_RETURN war with Core except now you’re on the wrong side of history
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Doesn’t take compliments well🤣