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  • 12 December 2023 (85 messages)
  • @jdogresorg #219092 06:36 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    https://docs.counterparty.io/docs/develop/api/#create_sweep
    Technical Specification | Counterparty

    Read API Function Reference

  • @jdogresorg #219093 06:36 PM, 12 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-12_18-36-59.jpg
  • @jdogresorg #219094 06:37 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    1 + 2 = 3
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219094 #219095 06:37 PM, 12 Dec 2023

    confused-confused-math.mp4

  • @subterranean1 #219096 06:37 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    So flags in a good sense, not in a bad one. Perfect.
  • @subterranean1 #219097 06:38 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    Sweep tokens w/o ownership = 1
  • @subterranean1 #219098 06:38 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    Maths
  • @subterranean1 #219099 06:45 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    If I ever have to flea the country, I can take my pepes with me. Anyone have a condom and a long piece of string I can borrow?

    photo_2023-12-12_18-45-03.jpg
  • @subterranean1 #219100 06:45 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    Yes, I made my own custom lock screen
  • @XJA77 #219101 06:45 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    so cool ser
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219099 #219102 06:45 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    You don't have any left over from the Legomotos?
  • @subterranean1 ↶ Reply to #219102 #219103 06:47 PM, 12 Dec 2023
    This little bugger has $5 of BTC and $362m of jpgs on it (as reported by xchain).
  • 13 December 2023 (143 messages)
  • @Jpcryptos ↶ Reply to #218720 #219105 12:27 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    I support the creation of a new foundation.
  • @Jpcryptos ↶ Reply to #218719 #219106 12:28 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    I am a cryptographic programmer and entrepreneur. also.
  • @682780739 #219107 12:40 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    foundation for funding?3F🙋
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219107 #219108 12:43 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    3F?
  • @682780739 ↶ Reply to #219108 #219109 12:50 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    it might be nice foundation's main priority is to get some money for dev marketing.etc if so would like to help otherwise just talk no productive
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219109 #219110 12:58 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Yep, funding would be great, do you have any ideas that might appeal to the WeChat BTNS users?
  • @AryanJab #219111 12:58 AM, 13 Dec 2023

    thriller-michael-jackson.mp4

  • @682780739 #219112 01:00 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    in fact they are funding counterparty with their own way , i mean money from institute sponsor
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219112 #219113 01:03 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Could you elaborate? Is their institutional involvement in the BTNS party over there?
  • @682780739 #219114 01:06 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Personally I'd like to see a diverse market, apart from unisat BRC20s being dominated by Asians, I'd like to help counterparty, dogeparty
    All get technological upgrades. The site interaction and programming can be more efficient and cleaner. I hope to see counterparty become more united and full of vitality and joy.
  • @682780739 ↶ Reply to #219113 #219115 01:08 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    that's what i am doing now...and you guys can see what gonna happen next
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219114 #219116 01:08 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    That'd be cool. How do you see us getting there?
  • @682780739 ↶ Reply to #219116 #219117 01:13 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Money drives us there
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219114 #219118 01:16 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    That all sounds pretty good.

    Are the BTNS users well informed about CP/XCP?

    It seems like with your language skills and understanding of these markets you could help spread awareness and get more people involved (and hopefully more funding).
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219117 #219119 01:17 AM, 13 Dec 2023

    dave-chappelle-money.mp4

  • @6569005257 #219120 02:05 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    hi all! good day to us
  • @nutildah #219121 02:39 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Indeed, good day to us all
  • @XR131419 #219123 04:19 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    I want to buy some xcp tokens, where can I buy them?
  • @jdogresorg #219124 04:20 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    dispensers
  • @XR131419 ↶ Reply to #219124 #219125 04:24 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Can you give me the link?
  • @jdogresorg #219126 04:25 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    https://xchain.io/asset/XCP
  • @jdogresorg #219127 04:25 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    click dispensers tab... green = open / selling xcp
  • @jdogresorg #219128 04:25 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    DYOR
  • @XR131419 ↶ Reply to #219126 #219129 04:26 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    thank you
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219125 #219130 04:31 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Here's a list of verified dispensers that won't rug you: https://scarce.city/niftys-verified-dispensers by our own @Niftyboss1.

    Though I'm not sure if we beat the rugspenser problem already?
    Scarce City

    An online marketplace for Bitcoin goods and Bitcoin NFTs

  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219123 #219131 05:13 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Let’s get this party started (Counterparty ❤️🎉)
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219123 #219132 05:15 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    https://t.me/xcpdesk

    This should be a good place to find safe (verified) dispensers. As an experiment try grabbing a few xcp from a verified dispenser.
  • @978879797 #219133 05:16 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    We need to get xcp more widely circulating
  • @978879797 #219134 05:49 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    https://twitter.com/vivek4real_/status/1734695291994132927?s=46
    Vivek⚡️ (@Vivek4real_) on X

    The Federal Reserve is nothing federal and has no reserves. They rob you from your wealth and from your savings and that’s immoral. It’s not only immoral but it also destroys some basic economic principles like saving.” - @nayibbukele Opt-out with #Bitcoin

  • @btctodamoon2020 #219135 07:30 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Can anyone tell me if counterwallet is closed?
  • @6098069683 #219136 07:51 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    sticker (10).webp
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #219136 #219137 08:04 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Won't be surprised if taproot script lengths are eventually limited, although that would just mess with large inscriptions, not BRC-20.
  • @btctodamoon2020 #219138 08:11 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Can anyone tell me when counterwallet restarts?
  • @978879797 #219139 08:57 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Holy sh1te it sounds like the wechat bros have not even heard of XCP 😭😭😭
  • @978879797 #219140 08:57 AM, 13 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-13_08-57-51.jpg
  • @978879797 #219141 08:58 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    Xiaobo and Xcer, U guys gotta get in there and spread the gospel
  • @682780739 #219142 10:40 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    DM me if any of you would like to join wechat counterparty xchain group
  • @682780739 #219143 11:20 AM, 13 Dec 2023
    I can help scan the invite qr when you register wechat if you don't have any friend with wechat
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219107 #219144 12:18 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Lei-Ge,

    I've just dropped by the Xchain Counterparty WeChat group a few times, and it seems that quite a few of the members have never heard of XCP.

    Are they now engaged in trading/investing that has no connection to counterparty and XCP, or do you think it would benefit them to understand counterparty and XCP?
  • @978879797 #219145 12:25 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I'm guessing there are not many or any Chinese language introductions to Counterparty and XCP.

    And many of the English ones are rather out of date. Not sure how to put the word out.......
  • @pepe_van_winkle #219146 02:58 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    If I send a counterparty asset to an Opendime wallet will the contents of that Opendime be visible on xchain?
  • @XJA77 #219147 03:02 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    What is opendime?
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219145 #219148 03:02 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Yes this is a problem, docs are really outdated
  • @balboski #219149 03:03 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Wattup yall was doing some digging around and found this collection called “age of rust” any details on what this was about ?
  • @balboski #219150 03:04 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    https://xchain.io/asset/ROGUEMECH
  • @balboski #219151 03:05 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    7 years old
  • @LongbranchBear ↶ Reply to #219151 #219152 03:06 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I've saw them in the WTHD auction
  • @balboski #219153 03:06 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Yea doing some digging see it’s a PC game too
  • @balboski ↶ Reply to #219152 #219154 03:09 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Any idea if the asset is viable or useful in game?
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219154 #219155 03:10 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Looks like they are using polygon now for the game
  • @XJA77 #219156 03:10 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Reading the FAQs in epic games launcher
  • @pepe_van_winkle ↶ Reply to #219147 #219157 03:10 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Bitcoin usb wallet people used to put Pepe’s on
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219157 #219158 03:11 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Then I think that yes of course
  • @XJA77 #219159 03:11 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    As any other wallet
  • @LongbranchBear ↶ Reply to #219154 #219160 03:11 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I have no clue. My bet would be it didn't pan out
  • @balboski #219161 03:20 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Word ima keep digging good looks!
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219146 #219162 04:18 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    yeah and satscard will work too
  • @B0BSmith #219163 04:25 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Scarecity item featuring opendime
    https://scarce.city/marketplace/physical/PEPENATION-display
    PEPENATION Display

    An online marketplace for Bitcoin goods and Bitcoin NFTs

  • @balboski ↶ Reply to #219163 #219164 06:34 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Nice! I always saw those lil usb sticks and was curious bout them. Thanks for the clarification
  • @6721746102 #219166 09:24 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Question: Was there a narrative of forking xcp if there was a xcp fee implemented to create numeric assets?
  • @6721746102 #219167 09:25 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    If so, im curious the reasoning for doing this as opposed to trying to support XCP itself
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #219166 #219168 09:46 PM, 13 Dec 2023

    mp4 (2).mp4

  • @6721746102 #219169 09:47 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    smug fuckery
  • @6721746102 #219170 09:47 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    tbh
  • @6721746102 #219171 09:47 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    what was the reason
  • @6721746102 #219172 09:47 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    just "we arent buying xcp to mint a token"
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219172 #219173 09:54 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    the point was that bitcoin stamps wanted to be just needed bitcoin to mint to be able to reach more people and easier to explain
  • @jdogresorg #219174 09:54 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    cant speak to that... or rather.. dont want to cause unecessary drama.. we're past the drama now... no desire to revisit it... but, if you care to review for yourself... here is the link to the message where I drop the XCP Fee PR in CP dev channel... after that, you can read for yourself. https://t.me/Counterparty_Dev/6428
    J-Dog in Official Counterparty Dev Chat

    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/cips/blob/master/cip-0029.md

  • @XJA77 #219175 09:57 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    problems started with src20 that dont uses the cp features such as dispener or supply as they are tracked and transfer on another layer similar to ordinals brc20 and btns
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219173 #219176 10:04 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    sounds like a fat bag of shit
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219175 #219177 10:05 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    a reinvented wheel that doesnt exist or more or less cherry picked the xcp git
  • @6721746102 #219178 10:06 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    another fat bag of shit
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219176 #219179 10:07 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    i think im talking to you with respect if is not reciproque i wont talk again no need to hear you with this kind of words
  • @XJA77 #219180 10:07 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    what exists for you dude?
  • @6721746102 #219181 10:09 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    im being realistic
  • @6721746102 #219182 10:09 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    doesnt need to be worded any other way just trying to keep it simple
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219180 #219183 10:09 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I guess opensource
  • @XJA77 #219184 10:09 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    realistic under your point of view
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219183 #219185 10:10 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    working on releasing and open source indexer for stamps ecosistem
  • @6721746102 #219186 10:10 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    thats not even the point though I thought prunable was a feature but I guess the grift is too strong
  • @6721746102 #219187 10:11 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I guess prunable is now an "attack vector" am i rite
  • @XJA77 #219188 10:11 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    why?
  • @6721746102 #219189 10:12 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    thats what im trying to figure out why grift
  • @XJA77 #219190 10:12 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    i am not grifting anyone
  • @XJA77 #219191 10:13 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    are you right that data in ordinals are not used to generate the hash?
  • @6721746102 #219192 10:13 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    no but marketing SRC and trying to spin off a reinvented wheel with a 100m mcap piece of shit is
  • @XJA77 #219193 10:13 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    and that lives in a part of the block not needed to recreate the whole blockchain?
  • @6721746102 #219194 10:14 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    this has nothing to do with ordinals
  • @XJA77 #219195 10:14 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    are you right with me that 85% of nfts in ethereum has the image in centralized servers?
  • @6721746102 #219196 10:15 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    this has nothing to do with ETH
  • @XJA77 #219197 10:15 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    this is what we called them unprunables bc the comparation is with ordinals
  • @6721746102 #219198 10:15 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    wheres the source code for bitcoin stored?
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219198 #219199 10:16 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    in centralized servers and running on thousend of nodes at the moment
  • @6721746102 #219200 10:16 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    do jpeg's need 100%^2 uptime lmao?
  • @XJA77 #219201 10:16 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    maybe there is a copy on arweave too and for sure there are copies on ipfs
  • @XJA77 #219202 10:17 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    this is your point of view and is not about just jpegs, important documents can be stored onchain
  • @6721746102 #219203 10:17 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    you are just strawmanning anyways
  • @XJA77 #219204 10:17 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    okey ser and what are you doing?
  • @6721746102 #219205 10:17 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    smelling your fat bag of shit I guess
  • @XJA77 #219206 10:18 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    this conv wont go anyway and i dont like how you talk so ciao bella
  • @6721746102 #219207 10:19 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    well obviously because its a grift on your end and not mine
  • @XJA77 #219208 10:23 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Im not grifting anyone, i dont like src20 neither, i dont hold any of them as i dont like shitcoins but i like perdurability, and posiblities of decentralized assets with all the information on chain, this is why im here, i like counterparty also a good platform to learn and experiment and hopefully a good place to contribute code that is what i really love but im trying to understand why are you telling this is a grift bc i dont understand what is the difference between this and the pepe you have as pfp, stored in the same protocol but with a centralized service holding the image
  • @6721746102 #219209 10:24 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    its an ordinal
  • @XJA77 #219210 10:24 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    and src20 now are shitcoins until some people start giving them utility like everything but if there is not building there is not possible utility
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219208 #219211 10:25 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    you seem to be advocating for it more or less so only directed where it needs to go
  • @6721746102 #219212 10:25 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    you make it sound like you are producing an indexer for src
  • @6721746102 #219213 10:26 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    and involved in the code
  • @XJA77 #219214 10:26 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    im willing someone gives them utility i know there are daos proposal to be based on it so im expectating on that
  • @6721746102 #219215 10:26 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    lol dao's
  • @XJA77 #219216 10:26 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    no ser for stamps not src is not the same
  • @carsonated #219217 10:27 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    So how about those MPMA transactions folks?
  • @carsonated #219218 10:27 PM, 13 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-13_22-27-45.jpg
  • @XJA77 #219219 10:28 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    😉
  • @jdogresorg #219220 10:28 PM, 13 Dec 2023

    giphy (9).mp4

  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219216 #219221 10:29 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    you still ducked the xcp fee for numeric assets
  • @6721746102 #219222 10:31 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    and then threatened to fork lmao
  • @Mblingbrdfrk #219223 10:31 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    sticker (10).webp
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219221 #219224 10:31 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    not me ser i wasnt so involved at that moment but i think was propossed to do a retroactive burn of xcp for all the stamps minted if im not wrong that was desestimated but i hadnt any word at this moment on it
  • @6721746102 #219225 10:31 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    so dont act like its all cake and cookies
  • @6721746102 #219226 10:31 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    okay well someone did
  • @6721746102 #219227 10:31 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    them/they
  • @6721746102 #219228 10:32 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    sorry pronouns
  • @XJA77 #219229 10:47 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Also src20 are not in counterparty anymore so dont be worry of them is not your problem anymore. And for your info at the opensource indexer there are named stamps too (and they have paid the xcp fee to issue with the minners fee to embeed all the data in bitcoin ledger) i am the one who is more pushing and building to make named stamps available as i told you i dont mind how to create them i mind the art on chain forever in the biggest chain. THE END
  • @6721746102 #219230 10:54 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    there was only one issue I wanted to address the fact they/them threatened to fork if a xcp fee for numerics was implemented
  • @6721746102 #219231 10:54 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    which there should be anyways
  • @XJA77 #219232 10:57 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    they didnt but in the case they would like to do it they were in their right to do it, are you blaming etc or bsv or bitcoin cash or doge or mariadb or open nextjs or any other thousand of opensource protocol that has forked when some changes didnt like a part of the people using it?
  • @6569005257 #219233 10:59 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    who's up?
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219233 #219234 10:59 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    bro u bot?
  • @XJA77 #219235 11:00 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    anyway i see xcp fee like a payment to have the name you want for your asset, in most protocols there is a free tier where you cant choose your domain and they assign you one random, hard to remember and with nosense names so if there is a reason to put a xcp fee on numericals i dont see a reason for them to exist
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219232 #219236 11:04 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    lol this change wasn't that complicated, rejecting it is just poor character
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219235 #219237 11:05 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    and there in lies the fact that your underlying beliefs about the overall XCP ecosystem itself and supporting it arent there
  • @6721746102 #219238 11:06 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    free to grift
  • @6721746102 #219239 11:06 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    basically
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219233 #219240 11:07 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    Vote 🦄 if you want me to ban blue bitcoin.
    Vote 🌭 if you don't want me to not ban blue bitcoin.
  • @6721746102 #219241 11:07 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    none the less silly and besides the point, src/stamp needed something to crutch off of, otherwise if the best interest was to launch its own ecosystem and fork, it would have
  • @6721746102 #219242 11:09 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    no the best possible solution was to screw benefitting the xcp ecosystem because of some shady garbage closed source code running in the back that could maybe compete later on and just bitch about not paying a fee
  • @6721746102 #219243 11:10 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    meanwhile still trying to step from the XCP ecosystem/community and just use its protocol in the meantime while another grift is in the works
  • @reinamora_137 #219244 11:32 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    tbf without the full support of @hodlencoinfield and @jdogresorg from day 1 stamps wouldn't have existed the first place.

    It was certainly offered to retroactively burn XCP tokens for prior minted stamps if you read the history. However all the mentioned parties didn't care about XCP price, and didn't hold any sizable bags so that was never pursued. The fear of potential database growth outweighed any benefits of XCP burn at that point. If stamps are a grift then the entire CP ecosystem is a grift by that measure.

    Nothing here is 'screwing' the XCP community out of anything. Perhaps it even sped up some dev work and features that got pushed out that benefitted everyone (albeit imo a little rushed, but good stuff) - all credit due to Jdog and Javier.

    What's the point of stirring up drama that is behind us? Stamps has brought a lot of eyeballs to CP and imo we are growing together. More devs are getting into the CP code, and more public CP nodes are coming online (xcp.dev API, along with a stampchain CP API) for EVERYONE to use for free. It's a win for everyone. IF the community at large determines XCP fees are a necessity I'm sure the stamps community will figure out what makes sense IF the time comes. No set plans or expectations either way.
  • @Jpcryptos #219245 11:37 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I consider that the devs' time is valuable and they should not be talking about whether or not something should be in CP or not. and keep the devs away from all that unnecessary drama....
  • @Jpcryptos #219246 11:43 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    I put it back on the table to create the foundation again, to which I am willing to provide resources to make this possible.
  • @reinamora_137 #219247 11:45 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    a great plan to gather consensus from the community on different ideas and to help devs to prioritize
  • @XJA77 #219248 11:46 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    i am learning a lot about cp from this indexer adventure and im willing to contribute to protocol
  • @Vizique #219249 11:49 PM, 13 Dec 2023
    So a committee of people organise and create the ideas that the Devs must then bring to life.
    Their (the Devs) input shall be limited to "it does/does not work as expected" and fix accordingly. Any problems that may arise will of course be the Devs fault (bad coding naturally) and the nebulous ideas that the Committee seek to bring to life are fine as they are and it's merely a matter of time , say two weeks, before the Devs have fixed everyting to enable the idea to come to life.
    If not, the Committee will fire the Devs and start again.
  • 14 December 2023 (268 messages)
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219249 #219250 12:01 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Sounds like fun.
  • @hodlencoinfield #219251 12:32 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    devs will always just build what they want to build, a foundation or committee that attempts to dictate code changes is DOA
  • @hodlencoinfield #219252 12:34 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    small incremental changes are the way to build consensus, and i think despite the arguments and fork risk we've seen in counterparty, cooler heads have always prevailed and we've been able to keep the protocol running relatively stable the last nearly 10 years
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219251 #219253 12:34 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    The only way a committee works is one driven by devs.

    Disclaimer: am biasedaf
  • @hodlencoinfield #219254 12:34 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    is it really a committee at that point?
  • @hodlencoinfield #219255 12:36 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    the problem we ran into in the past was there was a foundation that accepted donations and then the people donating wanted their voices heard wrt changes in the protocol
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #219243 #219256 12:36 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Agree these shitcoin grifters need to gtfo
  • @pappyG45 #219257 12:37 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Do these clowns even own any xcp
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219255 #219258 12:37 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    which i can totally understand, but it became a flawed mechanism
  • @Jpcryptos ↶ Reply to #219253 #219259 12:38 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I am a dev and I can tell you that many times as devs we want to implement new ideas and build new things. and to achieve success, good advice is required, in this case from the community and the consensus that you we want to reach.
  • @hodlencoinfield #219260 12:38 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    good ideas will rise to the top, you dont need a committee to decide them
  • @Jpcryptos #219261 12:40 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    A foundation not only requires that the committee be technical devs, alse need legal and financial advice to optimize resources and prioritize objectives. and that is the reason why most crypro foundations end...
  • @hodlencoinfield #219262 12:40 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    im old enough to remember the bitcoin foundation 😁
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219244 #219263 01:32 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    the grift is src, and either working out the kinks in a reformatter or just keeping it dark to leverage against xcp. The top part doesn't even make sense regarding your statement. The db growth potential is because there isn't a fee. Regardless though, if you struggle to see the benefit of implementing a fee for numerics I think that speaks for itself. I guess he wasted the time making a CIP just for keks and giggles.
  • @6721746102 #219264 01:35 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Hard to imagine anything of value coming from you all's end if there was this much trouble about a 0.25 xcp fee. Progress will be absolutely stagnant with nothing but malignant incentives from peoples intentions
  • @6721746102 #219265 01:36 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Hence the reason jdog said hes done
  • @6721746102 #219266 01:38 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    You will have a thin road to walk going forward imo (maybe im wrong) given that you are new show up and start stuff and try to be passive aggressive about it and then the person that's dedicated time and put a lot of energy into making something 'dope' say fuck you
  • @AryanJab #219267 02:31 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Hi kids.

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  • @krostue #219268 02:39 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Balance will not be achieved as long as dev's believe themselves to be untouchables. Unfortunate that the most vocal users are unwilling to have an authentic discussion. Yet have the audacity to claim consensus

    Anyone is welcome to discuss plans here @xcpfoundation or their own foundation forum. Alas, this is not really the venue for professional discussion.
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219167 #219269 02:43 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Because the market views xcp as a shitcoin. Right or wrong, that's the perception. It's the reason why the common belief is that "Ordinals are the first Bitcoin NFTs" and most Bitcoiners have never heard of Counterparty. Without sounding too grandiose, I believe the marketing tactic we used was hugely successful by every possible metric. My Op-Ed in Bitcoin Magazine drops in the print edition next month. Watch for it.
  • @jdogresorg #219270 02:44 AM, 14 Dec 2023

    surprise-chris-pratt.mp4

  • @mikeinspace #219271 02:44 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    A lot of fun Counterparty history in the article as well.
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219269 #219272 02:47 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    'market' - hypeboys / 'common belief' - grift projection... but still an ironic/oxymoronic way of reasoning.. i.e. its not a shitcoin so lets not do anything to fix 'market' perception or alter the 'common belief'
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219272 #219273 02:48 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    That's not my job. My job is to launch a successful project not rehabilitate the image of xcp. Sorry, that's not my job.
  • @6721746102 #219274 02:48 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    so you, or they/them try to leverage src in the background?
  • @6721746102 #219275 02:49 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    you cant say the two arent intertwined
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219274 #219276 02:49 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I hold almost zero SRC20. I could care less how it does.
  • @mikeinspace #219277 02:49 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I'd prefer it went away, tbh, and the focus returned to the art
  • @6721746102 #219278 02:50 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    thats a nice narrative
  • @6721746102 #219279 02:50 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    see if it sticks
  • @mikeinspace #219280 02:50 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    its true. I didn't mint anything really. I'm much more interested in the art applications like AI Stamps and SRC-721
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219273 #219281 02:50 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    you would think that these two things go hand in hand
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219281 #219282 02:52 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    No, like I said, the market wants a pure "Bitcoin" play. That's obvious. Beyond the ideological aspect, its so much easier to onboard when new users don't have to hunt down a token they can just use Bitcoin directly
  • @6721746102 #219283 02:53 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    so art with no token essentially
  • @mikeinspace #219284 02:53 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    well the art has tokens: counterparty assets. Those are necessary to sell/trade
  • @6721746102 #219285 02:54 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    right
  • @6721746102 #219286 02:54 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    unless you used ordinals
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219286 #219287 02:56 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    That exists. A lot of people in that ecosystem. I tried to carve out my own little niche. My little fiefdom, if you will.
  • @6721746102 #219288 02:57 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    its still misleading to say xcp wasn't already pure bitcoin
  • @6721746102 #219289 02:57 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    it just didn't keep 50 pixels on it for you
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219288 #219290 02:58 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I'm not saying it, the market is saying it. I've been very complimentary about Counterparty. I shit on Ordinals all the time.
  • @6721746102 #219291 02:58 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    im glad that stamps worked the way they did
  • @6721746102 #219292 02:58 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    hence my pfp
  • @6721746102 #219293 02:58 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    you did good
  • @nutildah #219294 02:59 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    The reason why XCP is basically immune from pumps and has been the same price for years is because it is a true utility token with the fairest launch possible. And that's OK, that's how it was designed.
  • @6721746102 #219295 02:59 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    there still needs to be a fee for numeric assets though
  • @XCERXCP #219296 03:00 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I’d say there is NO market perception at all vs the perception it’s a shitcoin
  • @XCERXCP #219297 03:01 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    It’s literally mostly unknown by almost everyone in crypto, people deep in crypto
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #219295 #219298 03:02 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    That was mulled over substantially and while I do agree with it in principle, the consensus among the devs was that the amount of "spam" being generated because of numeric assets was less of an issue than turning numeric asset users off from Counterparty completely.
  • @mikeinspace #219299 03:03 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I guess it comes down to whether you view usage and users as "spam". Most projects would love to have an influx of traffic because there are always ways to monetize that traffic at the edges. But yeah, you can get rid of all the "spam" and have a ghost town like Raretoshi.
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219298 #219300 03:06 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    by turning users off, you mean a few devs using a hostile fork and representing the majority in their decision and probably intertwining it with SRC then yeah
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219299 #219301 03:08 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    so you think XCP would have been obsolete if you all forked and mass printed 50 pixel assets on the stampchain fork?
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #219299 #219302 03:08 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    A broad oversimplification but OK
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219301 #219303 03:08 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    XCP or Counterparty are you referring to?
  • @6721746102 #219304 03:09 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    when you say Counterparty do you mean the network or the code
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219304 #219305 03:13 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Counterparty isn't going anywhere, there is a small but dedicated community (which I consider myself apart of) that has kept it alive for a decade. Longer than any other token project that I'm aware of. But it is small. Stamps is small, too, btw. Ordinals is Goliath. Ordinals has all the mindshare and devs and marketplaces and modern tooling. Stamps has already brought a little of that to Counterparty. Check out xcp.ninja for instance. That's the result of attracting new devs to Stamps. It's a modern explorer/marketplace/wallet that works really well. Compare that with Counterparty (and I mean no disrespect here) but the tools are very dated and clunky. It scares new users off.

    So, yeah, my view is that Stamps is helping Counterparty stay relevant in the wake of Ordinals.
  • @mikeinspace #219306 03:15 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Here you can actually see Counterparty Collections!

    https://xcp.ninja/collections

    How cool is that???
    XCP Ninja, the counterparty reference.

    Explore a wide range of Counterparty assets through a powerful search engine. Tools such as minting, directories and more.

  • @mikeinspace #219307 03:15 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Here's a Leaderboard of all the top addresses and what they hold:

    https://xcp.ninja/leaderboard

    How cool is that???
    XCP Ninja, the counterparty reference.

    Explore a wide range of Counterparty assets through a powerful search engine. Tools such as minting, directories and more.

  • @mikeinspace #219308 03:16 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Royalties for the first time on Counterparty. How cool is that???

    photo_2023-12-14_03-16-24.jpg
  • @6721746102 #219309 03:16 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Yes I have looked, its all great to see new things and resources
  • @6721746102 #219310 03:18 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I would consider freewallet pretty good for the amount of stuff it has to incorporate
  • @6721746102 #219311 03:19 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    gimping XCP when everything is already there for it to do what it needs though is cutting it short
  • @6721746102 #219312 03:19 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    no one even leverages the tech properly
  • @6721746102 #219313 03:20 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    thats the sad part
  • @6721746102 #219314 03:20 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    and the person that doing the most stopped, thats problematic
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219310 #219315 03:20 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    100% its a swiss army knife and it works great on a desktop computer. I love it. But mobile is lacking... I don't think I'm saying anything controversial here, and in 2023 mobile is *critical*
  • @6721746102 #219316 03:21 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    can you run core on mobile? I get it but mobile is such a pile of fuckery be honest
  • @6721746102 #219317 03:21 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I mean I get it but still
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219316 #219318 03:22 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    bro... its 2023... its just the way it is... some people only have phones... no computer
  • @6721746102 #219319 03:22 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    probably not worth putting people at risk anyways
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219318 #219320 03:22 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    the original rarepepewallet.com was designed with mobile in mind
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219319 #219321 03:22 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    at risk? we're all using hot wallets with freewallet.... I doubt many use HWW
  • @hodlencoinfield #219322 03:23 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    i remember arguments with mike because it wasnt a native app
  • @hodlencoinfield #219323 03:23 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    and people love native apps
  • @6721746102 #219324 03:23 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    accounting for all the different OS, gl
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #219320 #219325 03:23 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Was just about to mention that. The guy who got me into collecting Rare Pepes demo'd it for me, worked like a charm from his phone, and that was years ago.
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219322 #219326 03:23 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I still love native apps... web apps have a way of losing state so you have to login again constantly...
  • @6721746102 #219327 03:25 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    keeping a scope in mind of well the hypebois use mobile is missing the bigger picture at large
  • @mikeinspace #219328 03:25 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    @hodlencoinfield remember that call we had with Bitcoin Magazine... this was probably late 2021/ early 2022.... they were so gung-ho to have a Counterparty presence at their conference, even toying with the idea of a token at entry. But the big sticking point was a lack of mobile support.
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219327 #219329 03:25 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Its not just hypebois... this is the world... the world has been mobile-first for a decade
  • @6721746102 #219330 03:27 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    rebrand graphene and BTS another 100 times with different graphics I guess
  • @6721746102 #219331 03:27 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    it honestly doesnt matter because there are bigger obstructions of outside control that are in the way besides a mobile wallet
  • @6721746102 #219332 03:28 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    or hypebois perception of what markets are
  • @carsonated #219333 03:35 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I mean ultimately if this fork off situation plays out and counterparty maintains supremacy, stamps become bitcoin cash and Mike becomes Roger Ver and we all forget about him by 2026
  • @carsonated #219334 03:36 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Doesn’t that just make counterparty stronger?
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219333 #219335 03:36 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Multimillionaire living in St. Kitts? I'll take it.
  • @nutildah ↶ Reply to #219331 #219336 03:36 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    A lot of Ordinals projects are V.C.-backed, which is why a lot of capital has flooded that space. That means capital for development & marketing.

    VCs aren't as likely to bother with Counterparty because they want something they can control from the ground up. Which just isn't possible with XCP.

    It is what it is. If chasing hype is your thing, there's plenty of avenues through which to do it. Counterparty just isn't as likely to be one of them.
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219336 #219337 03:39 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    you could say the same thing about bitcoin 13 years ago
  • @6721746102 #219338 03:40 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    'chasing hype' lolz
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219328 #219339 03:40 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    RIP indiesquare
  • @hodlencoinfield #219340 03:40 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    it was such a great wallet
  • @nutildah #219341 03:41 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Yep I had it for a brief while, did a great job
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219340 #219342 03:42 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Book of Orbs. Really dug the skeuomorphism
  • @hodlencoinfield #219343 03:42 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    yep
  • @hodlencoinfield #219344 03:42 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    indiesquare had a way to create assets tho and you could add an icon
  • @hodlencoinfield #219345 03:42 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    if only they let you add a whole picture
  • @mikeinspace #219346 03:42 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    anyone tried this? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/casa-tookan/id1435616326
    ‎Casa Tookan

    ‎Casa Tookan, EverdreamSoft next-generation dual-chain wallet, simplifies the management of your digital assets. This new Bitcoin-Ethereum mobile wallet for blockchain gamers & collectors securely and privately store your digital assets and collections. Your digital estate is protected by a secure 1…

  • @hodlencoinfield #219347 03:43 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    does it still work?
  • @hodlencoinfield #219348 03:43 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    i remember i downloaded it a while ago
  • @mikeinspace #219349 03:43 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    still in the app store... idk
  • @nutildah #219350 03:43 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I found my old IndieSquare wallet address, has 2 of these badboys in it:

    https://xchain.io/asset/GUERILLA
  • @mikeinspace #219351 03:43 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    You know what I should download Spells of Genesis and actually play it for once
  • @subterranean1 #219352 03:44 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Spells of Genesis uses Tookan
  • @subterranean1 #219353 03:45 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    You have to send BITCRYSTALS to it in order to transfer your blockchainzed cards out to your ETH or counterparty wallet
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219353 #219354 03:46 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I think I have some bitcrystals somewhere
  • @nutildah #219355 04:03 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    Speaking of old CP wallets, I just stumbled upon this while doing something else... @jp_janssen was always ahead of the game

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9mUWeXpaoc
    CounterTools Spells of Genesis Edition

    CounterTools SoG is a Counterparty wallet designed for Spells of Genesis card collectors

  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219355 #219356 04:12 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    I love how CounterTools all run locally in your browser. You don't need to set-up a server or anything.
  • @reinamora_137 ↶ Reply to #219263 #219357 06:42 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    the grift is in SRC? What's the difference in the grift from BTNS which is very closely linked to CP? How is this solely about SRC? What's your beef here really besides just stirring up shit?

    For the record I do personally agree with XCP fee for the numerical assets, however much it does not align with the stamps community or the stamps meme. I would definitely err on the side of the status quo unless there is a very broad consensus within CP on the decision - which there is not.

    All of this XCP fee talk brings up a big unknown within the stamps community. Would the users support the fee and carry on, go elsewhere, or demand that stamps shift into a fork of CP without the fee? Those were all the unknowns and user demand we were contending with during rapid growth. A fee could also increase the value of historical stamps since they would become more costly to create in the future as a benefit to collectors. Even just shutting down the project and archiving the numeric bitcoin stamps as an overall collection was an option to grow value. It's not a simple choice, lots of things to be weighed for both stamps and CP as whole. We chose to keep building and become more involved in growing both ecosystems.

    Otherwise shove all this grifting nonsense up your ass. For my financial benefit I would prefer the xcp fee at the highest rate for all CP trx in perpetuity if it were all about a grift. The worst case it may at least slow down adoption and decrease the need for rapid development and ease database performance issues. LIkely rapidly increasing value of all historical assets which is another win for the grift lol
  • @stepe703 #219358 07:25 AM, 14 Dec 2023
    There has been some discussion recently how exactly an image from say the rare Pepe collection is linked to the blockchain using counterparty. The suggestion has been that RIPEMD-160 hashing is involved but I can’t seem to replicate that. Any thoughts?
  • @tweetious #219360 12:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I would like to get 5 different assets from 5 different dispensers. If I import my counterparty wallet priv key to Electrum and initiate 1 "pay to many" transaction (sending funds to all 5 dispensers with 1 tx) will that work with the dispensing part? (ie will the 5 dispensers recognize the funds -although coming from the same tx id- and dispense back the assets?). Tx fees are high ATM, and thought of not initiating 5 individual tx -one for each dispenser-
  • @sn_noop2 ↶ Reply to #219360 #219361 12:29 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Update has been pushed in production. It should work in theory. Don't know anyone that has tested it. Feel free to and give some feedback 👀🔥
  • @tweetious ↶ Reply to #219361 #219362 12:33 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    well... I thought of asking first for some reassurance (maybe from someone who has done it before), since if it does not work, then I would prolly lose all the funds sent to the 5 dispensers (if no assets will get dispensed back). 😝
  • @sn_noop2 #219363 12:36 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Try to buy one you want, and one you don't but very very cheap. You'll know and tested yourself. Dyor thingy 🤩
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219357 #219364 12:51 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    your comment is a giant meme
  • @6721746102 #219365 12:52 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    stop giving things credit where they aren't due, pretending like you are min-maxing rational outcomes with prefaced assumptions that everyone is aware or on the same page
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219357 #219366 12:53 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    dont come at me with that shove up your ass clownery when basically one of the devs left because of your passive aggressive non sense
  • @6721746102 #219367 12:54 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    keep pushing your agenda though cuck
  • @6721746102 #219368 12:56 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    ironically now maybe some of us should fork the lib and direct compete against your crap
  • @6721746102 #219369 12:56 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    maybe then you would fuck off and knock your crap off
  • @6721746102 #219370 12:58 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    you obviously have a rough sense of markets and realistic outcomes
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219357 #219372 02:01 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    also not sure why you think stamps need to dictate the narrative of XCP as a whole and are the only input
  • @farde89 #219373 02:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    is there a guide on how to list on stamped ninja with freewallet?
  • @LongbranchBear ↶ Reply to #219373 #219374 02:09 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Now we're getting somewhere
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219358 #219375 02:12 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://github.com/loon3/pepechain
    GitHub - loon3/pepechain: Proof of Rare

    Proof of Rare. Contribute to loon3/pepechain development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @reinamora_137 ↶ Reply to #219366 #219376 02:16 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    isn't the point of public discourse sharing points of view and coming to a collective decision. I shared my perspective and all we hear from you is slander. gtfo. There's nothing to compete with btw. So feel free to do as you wish with whatever open source code you like. I certainly won't call you a cuck for growing new communities or experimenting with different ways of doing things on bitcoin. Sounds like you need to get laid, really.
  • @6721746102 #219377 02:17 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    no because you did the opposite to this one
  • @reinamora_137 #219378 02:17 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    you still didn't answer the question. why are you so bitter about src which has non impact on CP. meanwhile BTNS is flooding the database with spam.
  • @6721746102 #219379 02:17 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    you are just full of yourself though with delusional thinking
  • @reinamora_137 #219380 02:18 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    haha coming from the guy whose most eloquent word is cuck
  • @6721746102 #219381 02:18 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its your whole approach and this passive aggressive shit and trying to leverage it against XCP when something happened you didnt like
  • @6721746102 ↶ Reply to #219380 #219382 02:20 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I thought it was grift but thanks
  • @reinamora_137 #219383 02:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    and what was i trying to supposedly leverage against xcp? that's an unrealistic perspective.
  • @6721746102 #219384 02:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    a fork
  • @6721746102 #219385 02:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    no its really not because its what you said and its really no suprise jdog said im done dealing with you
  • @reinamora_137 #219387 02:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    LOL the fork was threatened against me mutherfucker
  • @blockjack8 ↶ Reply to #219381 #219388 02:23 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Not sure if I get your point here, are you proposing something? Because it seems you just neglect the work of others for some reasons. Also you complain on people being passive agressive while everyone is talking politely to you that are just agresive...
  • @reinamora_137 #219389 02:23 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    either shut it down or xchain pushes an emergency fork. read the fkn history next time
  • @6721746102 #219390 02:23 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    "We are just being forced to pull stamps away from xchain and use our own version of CP to continue. and also shift mutually beneficial dev resources elsewhere. I’d rather help fix the database problems in reality. Much easier to work together but it seems the decision has been made for us."
  • @reinamora_137 #219391 02:24 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    still true. it was a rushed rash decision for xchain to push a fork without due preparation
  • @6721746102 #219392 02:24 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Xchain forking because of you? that doesnt even make sense
  • @reinamora_137 #219393 02:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    xchain was threatening a forking because they were afraid of the database growth and potential future ramifications of such traffic/bloat from src-20 within CP as a whole. We requested time to resolve that and we all came to an agreement to avoid any such chaos. everyone has moved on besides you.
  • @6721746102 #219394 02:27 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    xchain is a block explorer
  • @reinamora_137 #219395 02:27 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    what xchain decides the rest of the community has to follow as the primary resource
  • @reinamora_137 #219397 02:27 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    proof with the current fork that was just pushed
  • @PowerHODL17 ↶ Reply to #219395 #219400 02:31 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Here lies the problem
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219393 #219401 02:33 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    You’re new here aren’t you? Came for the stamps?
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219395 #219402 02:34 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    thats not really the case, there are other stakeholders outside of xchain but its certainly a issue having only one block explorer
  • @reinamora_137 ↶ Reply to #219394 #219403 02:35 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    the current 9.61 was a consensus change btw.

    You want to see passive aggressive btw. Take a look at this asset.

    https://xchain.io/search?query=FORKOFF

    this asset DOES NOT show on 9.60. Everyone had to accept this change or fall out of consensus
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219357 #219404 02:35 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Most devs are not concerned with ‘increasing value of historical assets’. That type of thinking is too near sighted for these topics.
  • @hodlencoinfield #219405 02:35 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its a shame that every time we seem to be getting somewhere wrt working together someone has to jump in and stir the shit again
  • @reinamora_137 ↶ Reply to #219404 #219406 02:37 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I very much agree. Coming in it appears that XCP value has more sway. But it is clearly a stable utility. Hence more rational decisions can be made. Obviously why that has little sway in the decision to utilize XCP on numeric assets.
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219406 #219407 02:38 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    What?
  • @reinamora_137 #219408 02:39 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i agree with you
  • @reinamora_137 #219409 02:39 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    xcp as a historical asset as well lol. but it is a perspective
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219404 #219410 02:40 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    tbh that doesnt make a lot of sense, nothing a dev does inherently increases the value of anything, the important thing IMO is to be conservative so as not to destroy the value of existing assets through consensus bugs, etc
  • @hodlencoinfield #219411 02:41 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    which is why the focus after 9.61 should be on efficiency upgrades, suring up the tech stack, building a test suite, etc
  • @LongbranchBear #219412 02:43 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Wtt for FORKOFF
  • @LongbranchBear #219413 02:44 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    sticker (10).webp
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219410 #219414 02:49 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I’ll reword my previous statement regarding his statement. Devs should not make decisions with the intent/possibility of altering assets value up or down. The protocol needs to be agnostic to perceive value. Core Devs need to make protocol decisions neutrally.
  • @ABlue0ne #219415 02:49 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    And I’m not calling out a dev here. The comment mentioned increasing value of assets with a protocol change.
  • @PPCFTW1 #219416 02:51 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    OK GUYS, HWERE IS JDOG? I WAS PROMOSIED A FULL REFUND ON ALL MY RAREPEPES DUE TO LOST VALUE!!!111
  • @PPCFTW1 #219417 02:51 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    KIDDING DONT BAN PLZ, OTHERWISE I WILL DM JDOG
  • @PPCFTW1 #219418 02:52 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    RAREPEPE 4 LYFE
  • @hodlencoinfield #219419 02:52 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://x.com/wasthatawolf/status/1735310863806930963?s=20
    J Loone Brickens 🧱 (@wasthatawolf) on X

    Please note the https://t.co/T5chBorvvK and https://t.co/tbPCY7prVW do not use the Ledger Connect Kit library. Please carry on.

  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219419 #219420 02:54 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I'm just never going to use my brand new ledger... ever. Its insane to trust that company.
  • @hodlencoinfield #219421 02:55 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    cant say i really blame you
  • @hodlencoinfield #219422 02:56 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i guess i should start working on integrating trezor
  • @hodlencoinfield #219423 02:56 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    it is important to note tho that when using ledger with rarepepewallet.wtf it uses the bare minimum of libraries
  • @hodlencoinfield #219424 02:57 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    hw-app-btc and hw-transport-webusb
  • @hodlencoinfield #219425 02:58 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    not only that but the hw-app-btc it uses is a fork i created to fix their signing issue with bech32 addresses
  • @hodlencoinfield #219426 02:58 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    so it can't autoupdate
  • @fabooowy ↶ Reply to #219422 #219427 02:58 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Trezor, Bitbox02, any hhw that’s going down an opensource route should be the future.
  • @mikeinspace #219428 02:59 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://x.com/MatthewLilley/status/1735285684070461534?s=20
    I'm Software 🦇🔊 (@MatthewLilley) on X

    What happened? In short, @Ledger made a chain of terrible blunders. 1. They are loading JS from a CDN. 2. They are not version locking loaded JS. 3. They had their CDN compromised. I would avoid using ANY dApps until their teams confirm that they have mitigated the attack.

  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219422 #219429 02:59 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    wen pbsts for coldcard
  • @hodlencoinfield #219430 02:59 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    ledger was added first because its the most used hww for eth nft collectors and gave them an easy on-ramp to rare pepes
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219428 #219431 03:00 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    good to know everyone is just winging it
  • @hodlencoinfield ↶ Reply to #219429 #219432 03:01 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i have a coldcard actually, still in the packaging lol
  • @hodlencoinfield #219433 03:02 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i built rarepepewallet in a way that i can add more hww's easily
  • @hodlencoinfield #219434 03:02 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i guess i should order a new trezor and get that process started
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219432 #219435 03:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Foundation looks pretty nice... its like Coldcard but with good UX
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219428 #219436 03:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    After leaking their client addresses they should have been shunned but muh altcoins
  • @hodlencoinfield #219437 03:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its still the most used hww
  • @subterranean1 ↶ Reply to #219434 #219438 03:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I just got the new trezor safe 3 for $80 and am in the process of writing up a how-to guide for moving your CP assets to it 👍🏻
  • @fabooowy ↶ Reply to #219430 #219439 03:04 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I remember Indelible was playing around with the BitBox02 about 1.5 years ago. Him n Scrilla even had a chat with Douglas and the Bitbox team. Maybe that could be revived. 🌉
  • @subterranean1 #219440 03:04 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Good thing about this one is you can choose “Bitcoin only” as the firmware. And it has a secure chip so no need for a passphrase (but that is still an option)
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219437 #219441 03:06 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    shocking statistic
  • @hodlencoinfield #219442 03:07 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    eth heads arent known for best security practices
  • @fabooowy ↶ Reply to #219435 #219443 03:10 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    True they are also interesting. I’d say Trezor, Bitbox02, Foundation Passport, Coldcard, Seedsigner and maybe blockstream Jade would be a good start to look at. There’s like so many more out there but those are here for a bit and afaik. stay on top of issues arising.
  • @hodlencoinfield #219444 03:10 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    supporting all of them turns into a nightmare on my side
  • @hodlencoinfield #219445 03:10 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    ill focus on trezor for now
  • @hodlencoinfield #219446 03:12 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    alright just bought a trezor safe 3 for testing
  • @mikeinspace #219447 03:14 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Might be trolling, not sure...

    https://x.com/udiWertheimer/status/1735308883160100996?s=20
    Udi Wertheimer (@udiWertheimer) on X

    most tweets about ledger are wrong here’s what you need to know: ALL ACTIVE ETHEREUM WALLETS ARE AT RISK don’t connect ANY ethereum/evm wallets to ANY apps until further notice doesn’t matter if it’s a ledger or not if you didn’t use your wallet today you’re safe

  • @hodlencoinfield #219448 03:14 PM, 14 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-14_15-14-57.jpg
  • @hodlencoinfield #219449 03:15 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    😁
  • @AbstractMirror #219450 03:15 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Wen PSBTs - Pepe Signed Bitcoin Transactions
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219448 #219451 03:15 PM, 14 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-14_15-15-37.jpg
  • @hodlencoinfield #219452 03:16 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    he's not wrong, people use the connect kit to connect any type of wallet software or hardware
  • @hodlencoinfield #219453 03:16 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    it also might not be limited to ETH
  • @mikeinspace #219454 03:20 PM, 14 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-14_15-20-07.jpg
  • @mikeinspace #219455 03:20 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    shiiiiit
  • @B0BSmith #219456 03:21 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    sounds trollish .. how can a wallet you used yesterday be OK but one you used today not? when the keys are in a hardware device ?

    I admit I not as well educated on ETH metamask
  • @mikeinspace #219457 03:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://x.com/paoloardoino/status/1735315976827101274?s=20
    Paolo Ardoino 🍐 (@paoloardoino) on X

    Tether just froze the Ledger exploiter address

  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219454 #219458 03:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Malicious ex-employee responsible for the ConnectKit malware
  • @hodlencoinfield #219459 03:23 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    probly shouldnt jump to that conclusion
  • @hodlencoinfield #219460 03:23 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    his gmail could have been compromised
  • @crypsiart #219461 03:24 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    paper wallets people....

    u gotta write down keywords for anything anyway so why rely on anyone else as well?

    2factor/multi factor paper wallets cannot ever be beat

    if only people listened..
  • @hodlencoinfield #219462 03:24 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    this isnt an issue related to stealing keys
  • @hodlencoinfield #219463 03:24 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its about signing things that are malicious txs
  • @hodlencoinfield #219464 03:25 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    the problem with eth and all the evm stuff is you're constantly giving them permissions to your wallet
  • @hodlencoinfield #219465 03:25 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its a very bad security model
  • @crypsiart #219466 03:25 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    eth was insecure code from day 1 - not sure anyone has campaigned against eth more..
  • @hodlencoinfield #219467 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    it does enable some cool things but at the expense of security
  • @crypsiart #219468 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    but still should have bought some at $20..
  • @hodlencoinfield #219469 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its all about trade-offs
  • @mikeinspace #219470 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Its just so crazy. Their brand value is like 99% reputation. Doesn't matter how good the hardware is. Once you lose trust, that's the end of your company. How do they run a company like this?
  • @hodlencoinfield #219471 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i mean you could have said that multiple times about ledger but still they are dominant market share
  • @hodlencoinfield #219472 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    i think the switching costs are just too high for people to care
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219471 #219473 03:26 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Very true.
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #219468 #219474 03:28 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Many of us could be billionaires by now simply by buying into the ETH crowd sale on day one…. Some things are more important than profit and $$$… unfortunately most are in the space for the wrong reasons 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219229 #219475 03:30 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I’ve been waiting on the stamps indexer. Can you share?
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219475 #219476 03:34 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Still working on ser, we are close
  • @hodlencoinfield #219477 03:34 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://x.com/rot13maxi/status/1735313669276262464?s=20
    Rijndael (@rot13maxi) on X

    Seeing the Ledger news? Quick TLDR: Ethereum application ("dApp") frontends have a button to connect your wallet. The button that ledger vends to connect your wallet had a dependency get compromised and replaced with a wallet drainer. So if you go to a website that has that…

  • @B0BSmith #219478 03:36 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    ledger not using cryptographic hashes to secure its crypto software should tell anyone everything they need to know .. failing that doxxing your customers should..

    I won't hold my breath
  • @B0BSmith #219479 03:37 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://nitter.net/MatthewLilley/status/1735285684070461534
    I'm Software 🦇🔊 (@MatthewLilley)

    What happened? In short, @Ledger made a chain of terrible blunders. 1. They are loading JS from a CDN. 2. They are not version locking loaded JS. 3. They had their CDN compromised. I would avoid using ANY dApps until their teams confirm that they have mitigated the attack.

  • @crypsiart ↶ Reply to #219474 #219480 03:38 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    should have done it... 😉
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2w120g/help_me_set_up_a_new_exchange/
    From the Bitcoin community on Reddit

    Explore this post and more from the Bitcoin community

  • @crypsiart ↶ Reply to #219480 #219481 03:39 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    crypsy exchange threatened to sue us, then of course turned out to be a scam lol
  • @hodlencoinfield #219482 03:40 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    was that big vern?
  • @crypsiart ↶ Reply to #219482 #219483 03:40 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    think so
  • @hodlencoinfield #219484 03:41 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    my favorite shit exchange from back in the day was bter
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219476 #219485 03:41 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    So, stamps are still ‘in counterparty’ and very much a counterparty thing. I have been saying this since day one.
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #219475 #219486 03:44 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    From what I’ve heard the indexer is still being written, and won’t be open sourced until they collect enough funds… sidenote… BTNS indexer was written for free seven months ago and published at no cost… including an explorer, etc.

    Everyone involved in CP is entitled to their own interest and building their own projects, and funding them how they best see fit.

    Some relatively new devs in the community have fundamentally different approaches to building open source software…. Which is fine…. But I think this difference in viewpoints is what has divided the community… and pushed some devs away from CP to focus energy elsewhere.

    I think CP will be fine, it’s in good hands with @hodlencoinfield @shannoncode @jp_janssen … they all have been with CP since the early days, have watched CP struggle and grow, and have a good grasp of the current status and community desires.

    And I’m still around (got 1% of xcp n 20k+ asset names)… just not sole core maintainer anymore… but I’m not gone, just taking a step back for my own sanity n good of the community.
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #219482 #219487 03:47 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    How did that all play out? Wasn’t big Vern the one that went through a divorce and then tried to bail to China with all the funds to keep it from the ex-wife?

    TLDR don’t start exchanges with ur wife… lol
  • @hodlencoinfield #219488 03:47 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    sounds about right lol
  • @crypsiart ↶ Reply to #219487 #219489 03:48 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    educating ex-wife about bitcoin would have been fatal...

    boat accidents 😘
  • @B0BSmith #219490 03:48 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    he became a rarepepe znd lives happily ever after in S2
  • @hodlencoinfield #219491 03:50 PM, 14 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-14_15-50-38.jpg
  • @jdogresorg #219492 03:50 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    It’s funny how much counterparty drama or history is captured in cards…. Someday we will all have to sit down and have a fireside chat and document some of this little known counterparty history and drama.
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #219403 #219493 03:53 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Eh, I thought it was pretty funny… “fork your mother if you want to fork”…. OGs get the reference n context🤷🏻‍♂️😜
  • @crypsiart #219494 03:54 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    JIHANWU

    photo_2023-12-14_15-54-49.jpg
  • @subterranean1 ↶ Reply to #219492 #219495 04:01 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    TEST 10 panel talk? I’ll take notes 👍🏻 @jdogresorg @ShawnLeary
  • @AryanJab #219496 04:02 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    lmfao

    photo_2023-12-14_16-02-54.jpg
  • @AryanJab #219497 04:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://twitter.com/0xSentry/status/1735294165628404181

    This is hilarious.
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219492 #219498 04:03 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    With Bourbon.
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219486 #219499 04:05 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I dropped into the stamps chat a minute ago to take the conversation there and this is the fourth comment from the bottom…
  • @ABlue0ne #219500 04:06 PM, 14 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-14_16-06-24.jpg
  • @fabooowy ↶ Reply to #219481 #219501 04:10 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I lost a bunch in crypsy, the actually pretty much did what u sarcastically proposed up there back in the days.
  • @blockjack8 ↶ Reply to #219500 #219502 04:46 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    There are just a few hands working on this. But its almost done. That said src20 people want to get rich fast, thats all it is.
  • @CSBond #219503 05:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Hey guys, needed some help. I minted some SRC 20 using wrong freewallet. I used freewallet dot org instead of freewallet dot io. Is ther a way for me to recover my SRC 20 tokens? Any help would be highly appreciated. TIA
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219503 #219504 05:39 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    This isn’t the right forum as src20 is not on Counterparty. That being said: if you can get at the private key you should be able to import it into freewallet
  • @CSBond ↶ Reply to #219504 #219505 06:21 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Apologies for posting here and thank you for the reply.
  • @heunland #219506 06:36 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    So regarding the ongoing Ledger disaster, what impact does this have on Pepes in emblem vaults? I don't have any myself but should people be concerned about making any vault related TXs until that problem is fixed
  • @heunland #219507 06:37 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    What I am hearing is to stay away from doing any EVM related transactions for now
  • @carsonated #219508 06:39 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    its the interaction that puts us at risk from what i understand. Can't get an STI if you are remaining celibate on a deserted island
  • @B0BSmith #219509 06:40 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Seems it ok to use your Ledger with Electrum so those such pepes are safe .. but anything not pure BTC and anthing using Ledger software and Dapps is hella risky
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219508 #219510 06:44 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Which is worse, the pain or the celibacy?
  • @PowerHODL17 ↶ Reply to #219422 #219511 06:47 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Or SeedSigner 👀 @reganhimself
  • @PowerHODL17 #219512 06:47 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    I know im an interloper
  • @PowerHODL17 #219513 06:47 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Just an “opinionated observer”
  • @PowerHODL17 #219514 06:48 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    But an airgapped signing device for XCP assets would be amazing
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219511 #219515 06:50 PM, 14 Dec 2023

    oh-boy-here-we-go-again.mp4

  • @mikeinspace #219516 07:07 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    https://x.com/poppunkonchain/status/1735331045124321524
    Pop Punk (@PopPunkOnChain) on X

    I have no trust in Ledger anymore. Earlier this morning their hack caused me to lose 2x Mutant Ape 1x Bored Ape How could you do this to me?

  • @978879797 #219517 09:09 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Holy merde the TX fees are going insane........
  • @978879797 #219518 09:17 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    "got 1% of xcp n 200 asset names"

    LOVE IT!
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219514 #219519 09:24 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    you can sign op_returns on a coldcard i think all we need is the hex in a psbt
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #219452 #219520 10:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    ETH is the most unsecure setup in history
  • @XCERXCP #219521 10:22 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    Literally nothing is safe except by doing nothing
  • @subterranean1 #219522 10:29 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    If I would have done nothing I’d probably have 100 ETH in my wallet rather than a bunch of failed shitcoins, ICO’s and jpgs 🥲
  • @XCERXCP #219523 11:59 PM, 14 Dec 2023
    ETH is the equivalent to a credit card with no theft recourse
  • 15 December 2023 (41 messages)
  • @XCERXCP #219524 12:03 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Sending payment is push, sure. Once you connect the wallet, it essentially becomes pull if it’s a bad actor.

    Everyone is the test dummy each and every time they connect their wallet.
  • @XCERXCP #219525 12:10 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    CP is great because when we have a problem, everything often just stops working protecting all users
  • @XCERXCP #219526 12:11 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Plus everything is push, way better design
  • @PowerHODL17 ↶ Reply to #219526 #219527 12:11 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    SHA256
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #219525 #219528 12:23 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    The retard spammers stamp’s inscriptions etc are actually a counterparty attack. Few understand this
  • @pappyG45 #219530 12:27 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    They eventually lose so it’s fun to see what scammers come from it. A natural filter
  • @XJA77 ↶ Reply to #219528 #219531 12:36 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    once again here...
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #219522 #219532 12:45 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    If I didn’t use CP, I’d prob have 100 BTC in my wallet 😂
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219532 #219533 12:59 AM, 15 Dec 2023

    lauren-hill-preach.mp4

  • @CryptoDitz #219534 03:03 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    sticker (10).webp
  • @yeahokay1 #219535 03:21 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    when are the counterwallet servers going to be live again?
  • @jdogresorg #219536 03:25 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    still working on a fix... counterblock has some issue with parsing the new dispenser closes n chokes... counterparty-lib works fine, but counterblock is having issues.... Javier n I have spent 3+ days working on trying to have a "hotfix" to the issue on counterblock... but no simple hotfix is working... so it'll be up when the community prioritizes and funds a fix.... freewallet.io is up and working fine.... Javier will be putting forth a PR with the details tomorrow and the community can decide how to proceed.
  • @yeahokay1 ↶ Reply to #219536 #219537 03:27 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    lame... I am trying to access my stamps on there
  • @jdogresorg #219538 03:27 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    so is rpw.wtf, rarepepewallet.com, and prettymuch every other wallet except the 10 year old counterwallet software
  • @yeahokay1 ↶ Reply to #219538 #219539 03:28 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    they are all down?
  • @jdogresorg #219540 03:28 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    no, all are up and working fine
  • @yeahokay1 #219541 03:28 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    its just counterwallet
  • @yeahokay1 #219542 03:29 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    thats down?
  • @jdogresorg #219543 03:29 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    yes.. just counterwallet
  • @yeahokay1 #219544 03:29 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    😐
  • @jdogresorg #219545 03:29 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    freewallet, xchain, and all other wallets working fine (you can see txs on network on xchain fine)... so... cp is up, wallets are up... juts old/outdated counterwallet is down
  • @jdogresorg #219546 03:29 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    its simple... use some other wallet, or wait for a fix... not much else to do
  • @yeahokay1 #219547 03:30 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    yup I guess so
  • @978879797 ↶ Reply to #219537 #219548 03:32 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Dude easy on J-Dog, he has been holding this project together for years. Just give thanks 🙏
  • @yeahokay1 #219549 03:34 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Can I pull the private key from the testnet?
  • @jdogresorg #219550 03:35 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    freewallet works with mainnet/testnet and allows importing/exporting private keys for both networks... so yes
  • @yeahokay1 ↶ Reply to #219550 #219551 03:36 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    yeah I dont have the private key though... I have the 12 word thing
  • @jdogresorg #219552 03:37 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    plug 12-word seed into freewallet.... switch to settings.. switch to testnet... done
  • @jdogresorg #219553 03:37 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    all addresses for testnet associated with that seed will be added to wallet... same as mainnet
  • @jdogresorg #219554 03:38 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    https://t.me/freewallet_io
    Freewallet.io Chat

    This is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer

  • @jdogresorg #219555 03:38 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    FAQ n shiz there... take your FW questions there pls 🙂
  • @6772479821 #219556 03:58 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Is there still a community counterparty hangout or Twitter spaces that happens once in awhile?
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #219556 #219557 04:02 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Damn bro saw the video, glad you’re good man
  • @Jpcryptos ↶ Reply to #219548 #219558 05:32 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    Respect
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219559 #219560 10:56 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    This isn’t the right forum as src20 is not on Counterparty
  • @Niftyboss1 ↶ Reply to #219559 #219561 11:02 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    BTNS Sat?
  • @Niftyboss1 #219562 11:06 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    I don’t think the current version of Freewallet displays BTNS tokens yet
  • @Niftyboss1 #219563 11:06 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    But you can ask the Freewallet chat to be sure
  • @Niftyboss1 #219564 11:06 AM, 15 Dec 2023
    https://t.me/freewallet_io
    Freewallet.io Chat

    This is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer

  • @happyeverryday #219565 12:33 PM, 15 Dec 2023
    Hey, are there issues logging into counterwallet atm?
  • @ABlue0ne ↶ Reply to #219565 #219566 12:50 PM, 15 Dec 2023
    Yes. Use a different wallet for now.
  • 16 December 2023 (45 messages)
  • @manksi #219573 02:52 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    " DO NOT send funds to a dispenser from a taproot address (start with bc1p)! "

    Why is this the case?
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219573 #219574 02:54 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    The dispenser will not return a token to you. It can't sense funds being received from a taproot address (don't ask me to explain the technical reason). Bottom line: Taproot support has not yet been added to Counterparty.
  • @manksi #219575 02:54 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Ok cool thank you!
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219575 #219576 02:55 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    also: it's not stated, but don't use an address starting with "3" either. Use a "1" address or segwit only "bc1q"
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam ↶ Reply to #219576 #219577 04:24 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    You're a fucking cunt teaching people to store stuff in utxo set. Burn alive for being a liar
  • @nutildah #219578 04:28 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    whoa thats a little aggressive 😅
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219577 #219579 04:29 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    You realize that this is literally how Counterparty has worked for years when you do a multi-send, right?
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam ↶ Reply to #219579 #219580 04:29 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Opreturn is prunable
  • @mikeinspace ↶ Reply to #219580 #219581 04:30 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Not talking about OP_RETURN... I'm talking about regular ol' CP when the message exceeds 80 bytes
  • @mikeinspace #219582 04:31 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Did you know that even before Stamps started there are approximately 10 BTC worth of Sats stuck in the UTXO set because of Counterparty txns?
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam #219583 04:31 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Still permanent. Pruning is optional way to run on smaller hdd. Most cp didn't need p2ms trick.
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam #219584 04:32 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    You're tricking ppl into using pointless expensive p2ms instead of more responsible or return or even witness data that's not in utxo set
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam #219585 04:32 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Bc of made up fear that block data is not permanent
  • @LN_03d1_eth_is_a_scam #219586 04:33 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Reason stamps exists is literally retarded
  • @AryanJab ↶ Reply to #219586 #219587 04:54 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Stamps started out using Co...

    ...never mind. This is all so stupid.
  • @ciamosadforever #219588 08:03 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    GM, can someone have a look at this please?

    Below assets are from green banner rare coco directory, I can’t see any of them on xchain. Why is it?
    For me they are now worthless, how do you explain this to collectors who just want to collect instead of digging in GitHub for hours? Thanks.

    https://xchain.io/asset/VANCOCOGH

    https://xchain.io/asset/COCOBASQUIAT

    https://xchain.io/asset/COCOSCREAM
  • @PPCFTW1 ↶ Reply to #219548 #219589 08:04 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    He's the foundation that keeps out the etherium barbarians at the gate (and also inspires btc ppl to spam the btc block chain with memes lol)
  • @tweetious ↶ Reply to #219574 #219590 08:31 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    Do you happen to know -have you tried - if I import my counterparty wallet priv key to Electrum and initiate 1 "pay to many" transaction (sending funds to many dispensers with 1 tx) will that work with the dispensing part? (ie will the different dispensers recognize the funds -although coming from the same tx id- and dispense back the assets?). Tx fees are high ATM, and thought of not initiating many individual tx -one for each dispenser-

    Thanks.
  • @B0BSmith ↶ Reply to #219588 #219592 09:34 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    https://xchain.io/img/cards/VANCOCOGH.jpg
  • @B0BSmith #219593 09:35 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    says errors .. looks like is not in collection json .. collections are centralised
  • @B0BSmith #219594 09:35 AM, 16 Dec 2023
    speak to collection ceo
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #219537 #219598 06:04 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    your stamps are ghey
  • @XCERXCP ↶ Reply to #219598 #219599 06:07 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    lol I don’t think we know how you feel yet
  • @jdogresorg ↶ Reply to #219598 #219600 07:27 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    I think more trans than ghey… being cross-platform n all🤷🏻‍♂️
  • @booo_urns ↶ Reply to #219598 #219601 08:05 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    And they’re beautiful
  • @mikeinspace #219603 08:24 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    Fake and Ghey, I’m told.
  • @crypsiart #219604 08:30 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    binary
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #219603 #219606 08:50 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    There’s a reason they call them tramp stamps
  • @pappyG45 #219607 08:51 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    But we do appreciate finding the bug enriching the miners and eventually making bitcoin more secure
  • @PowerHODL17 ↶ Reply to #219606 #219609 09:06 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    Dank Stamps going to the moon bro
  • @PowerHODL17 #219610 09:07 PM, 16 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-16_21-07-11.jpg
  • @PowerHODL17 #219611 09:07 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    Bobo is your fren
  • @booo_urns ↶ Reply to #219607 #219612 09:14 PM, 16 Dec 2023

    photo_2023-12-16_21-14-02.jpg
  • @mikeinspace #219613 09:21 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    I just find the crab bucket mentality and the holier than thou attitude very amusing. The same forces vilifying Stamps have no love for OP_RETURN pointers either. It’s viewed as “slightly less bad” at best. But go on telling me my thing is stupid and evil.
  • @mikeinspace #219614 09:24 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    And don’t get me started on how this situation perfectly mirrors the 2014 OP_RETURN war with Core except now you’re on the wrong side of history
  • @pappyG45 ↶ Reply to #219613 #219615 09:25 PM, 16 Dec 2023
    Doesn’t take compliments well🤣
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