• 27 December 2017 (26 messages)
  • @498672733 #11967 12:11 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • @498672733 #11968 12:11 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Can someone link me the white paper?
  • @399452297 #11969 12:44 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Hi
  • @467625861 #11970 12:54 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • @104473096 #11972 02:19 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    White paper? Xcp was made when you didn't need a whitepaper for a coin to work
  • @mnlclassic #11976 03:03 PM, 27 Dec 2017
  • pepperidge farm remembers
  • XCP pumping in 1 hours guys!!!
  • @lwvwlcn #11983 04:33 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Christian Moss

    I wrote a blog on atomic swaps with @CounterpartyXCP for @Indie_Square blog https://t.co/K3nFByCVAT

  • Two hours later I see no change lol
  • two hours? dude you read it all wrong:
  • @312899792 #11988 08:26 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    You wrote xcp pumping in an hour dont u?
  • @312899792 #11989 08:26 PM, 27 Dec 2017
  • @krostue #11998 08:53 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    ⭐ Fitness
  • @Nickst2 #11999 08:53 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Does she blockchain
  • @krostue #12000 08:53 PM, 27 Dec 2017
  • @krostue #12004 09:10 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Bloodhound Gang - Asleep At The Wheel

    Seventh track of the One Fierce Beer Coaster (LP) by Bloodhound Gang released in 3rd December, 1996. (C) 1996 Geffen Records, Inc. Lyrics by Jimmy Pop. Bloodhounds shall cruise rendezvous Break curfew new trip ensues You never know Bloodhounds just go Pack backpack up for down the road No change of clothes but change for tolls Pack of No-Doz Rolos and Skoal Old Milwaukee Jolt black coffee Sugar Daddy Rand McNally A pack of jacks those orange Tic-Tacs Glen Miller tracks roll of Kodak The phantom black stacked Pontiac Hot rod dual quads and in the back Is the beat keeper big ass speaker Jumbo woofer rattle tweeter Dial is turned and there it's stayin' The next day where stern is playin' You got your Jesus on the dashboard But the Devil's under my hood You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun You pay a toll to get to Heaven But on the road to Hell there's none You got your Jesus on the dashboard But the Devil's under my hood You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun You pay a toll to get to Heaven But on the road to Hell there's none Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel I-95 eight lanes wide, midnight drive take a ride Alongside east coast tide, gettin' high, so am I Bloodshot red eyes from the fumes I consume engine zoom then engine boom Then engine glow erupt and blow And overflow like volcano So far to go can't turn back though Cheap tobacco cup of black Joe Fuelin' my body jumstartin' my soul Set my mind on cruise control You got your Jesus on the dashboard But the Devil's under my hood You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun You pay a toll to get to Heaven But on the road to hell there's none You got your Jesus on the dashboard But the Devil's under my hood You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun You pay a toll to get to Heaven But on the road to hell there's none Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel 24-7 Truck Stop Plaza Turn off headlights turn on hazards 3 A.M. is when I gazed Eyes glazed I'm dazed and then I fade To black now were back 'On The Road' like Kerouac Down the turnpike high rate of speed Up all night like Gilbert Gottfried You got your Jesus on the dashboard But the Devil's under my hood You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun You pay a toll to get to Heaven But on the road to hell there's none You got your Jesus on the dashboard But the Devil's under my hood You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun You pay a toll to get to Heaven But on the road to hell there's none Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get up you're asleep at the wheel Get…

  • @395135009 #12005 09:54 PM, 27 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • 28 December 2017 (15 messages)
  • @lwvwlcn #12006 12:58 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    Alex Bosworth

    Mainnet Lightning Network paying my actual phone bill with actual Mainnet funds on @bitrefill. Speed: Instant. Fee: Zero. Future: Almost Here. https://t.co/futhn502Lp

  • @lwvwlcn #12007 12:59 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    LN is coming! it's good news to xcp, isn't it?
  • @lwvwlcn #12008 12:59 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    best time to buy?
  • @Muqocan #12009 01:29 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    actually I'm wondering that as well. AFAIK , XCP uses Bitcoin network. So, after implementing LN on BTC mainnet, will XCP has same benefits of LN?
  • @394813278 #12010 02:48 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • @104473096 #12014 03:05 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    Yeah, like high liquidity assets, but those are mainly for order matching, so no, it won't be useful
  • @ShawnLeary #12016 03:24 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    When Pepe Scaling 2018?
  • Already started. Kek was ressurected on bitcoin blockchain in 2016. KEKRELOADED was deployed to help combat with the fuckery and corruption in the cryptosphere. As more & more transactions move on and off chain, The oververseer of chaos & bearer of light has scaled the bitcointrash evil plot to destroy bitcoin. All Hail K🐸K
  • OpenPepe. The future is offchain OpenPepe... https://youtu.be/AwA4gZuOhtE
    OpenPepe Announcement: Opendime + PepeCash

    Integrating Rare Pepe with Opendime. Not affiliated with Opendime or Coinkite. Music by: Theo Goodman Github repo coming soon! Tips: Send Rare Pepes to the Opendime used in the video! 13cdnAkknyUor1WquA2MZBAADWwNR1Uw1E

  • @475986668 #12023 06:07 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • MC Pepe
  • @501227951 #12030 07:25 PM, 28 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • 29 December 2017 (23 messages)
  • @486294584 #12031 04:36 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • @KEKRELOADED #12033 06:36 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    Why do orders expire so soon using counterwallet? How to set longer orders?
  • @MrzkOthman #12034 07:10 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    Counterwallet cannot access, loading forever
  • @MrzkOthman #12035 07:10 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    This is very bad
  • @MrzkOthman #12036 07:11 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    Before this counterwallet is very fast
  • @MrzkOthman #12037 07:11 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    Pls do something about it
  • @MrzkOthman #12038 07:12 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    I like xcp dex
  • @312899792 #12042 09:08 AM, 29 Dec 2017
    Whats wrong with XCP and BITTREX this is what support team wrote on Twitter
  • @lwvwlcn #12044 12:40 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    what's that meaning?
  • @lwvwlcn ↶ Reply to #12034 #12045 12:40 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    use coindaddy
  • I already got it through
  • It means tell counterparty users stop spamming blockchain with ridiculous low fees causing traffic jams. And for those who are part of the team to do real innovative dev work. No pawn intended. Hats off and thumbs up to those keeping XCP alive and well.
  • @429904738 #12049 02:31 PM, 29 Dec 2017
  • @424339078 #12050 03:52 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • @453723907 #12052 04:33 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    Joined.
  • @ShawnLeary #12060 08:23 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    Three letter asset names is sort of like going nuclear right? Press it before we are completely deaded. I don’t see why we shouldn’t have them. At this point, if we aren’t ready for prime time, when will we?
  • @ShawnLeary #12061 08:23 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    * shouldn’t
  • @ShawnLeary #12063 08:24 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    right, pressing it after we are deaded would be dumb
  • @ShawnLeary #12065 08:24 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    let’s do it
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12066 10:28 PM, 29 Dec 2017
    For clarity concerning the "Counterparty Foundation", I have no connection with that "foundation". The "Foundation" apparently has never been a 501(C)(6) organization and has never, to my understanding, been appropriately run as a 501(C)(6) organization.
  • where did you get the idea that counterparty is "deaded"?
  • 30 December 2017 (1015 messages)
  • The Devs, founders, and people that understand the off chain improvements coming with SW and LN seems to have that opinion. What is the value prop of XCP to you Shaun?
  • $1000
  • @ShawnLeary #12072 12:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think the asset name holders are in control now. Scorched earth move. Sad.
  • @ShawnLeary #12074 01:02 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What foundation?
  • @junseth #12076 01:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Lol
  • @ShawnLeary #12077 01:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @junseth with his 5th comment in a counterpart chat in 2 years, congrats, special item unlocked ;)
  • @junseth #12078 01:06 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Yup. I'm allowed to not speak often. I spoke a lot for a long time at the beginning of this priject.
  • @ShawnLeary #12079 01:06 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Yea, thank you for that :)
  • @junseth #12080 01:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But this is insane. How can everyone have a discussion when the most basic premises arent admitted. What foundation? Where do you go with that?
  • @junseth #12081 01:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    That's just dishonest. And this wasnt even a discussion about the validity od the foundation.
  • @ShawnLeary #12082 01:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I’m waiting for Dante’s to tell me. One week he is pro forking to light coin with a snapshot, the next week he is resigning saying there is not such thing as a foundation
  • @junseth #12083 01:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The reason that LN and other scaling solutions can't be implemented here, btw, is that there is very little interest by competent devs to work on the priblem.
  • @ShawnLeary #12084 01:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    R u so sure?
  • @ShawnLeary #12085 01:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Perhaps it’s obvious
  • @junseth #12087 01:09 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Well shawn, that's fine. But what would you do if every time you made a point the lies start. And they are weird lies about small things.
  • @ShawnLeary #12088 01:10 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Bitcoin is the database for Counterparty assets, it can easily be other chains. It’s just a matter of do you think a protocol being used more attracts devs or not. Apparently josh is saying we have a lack of
  • @ShawnLeary #12089 01:10 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So if we limit the use even further more devs will appear to help?
  • @junseth #12090 01:10 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    My point is that the discussion hasn't even started because the honesty is too damn low. Right now you csnt even admit that the foundation is a thing you claim to be part of.
  • @ShawnLeary #12092 01:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Secret episode #2
  • @junseth #12093 01:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You're welcome on. I'd happily facilitate the discussion. But the honesty thing is bullshit
  • @junseth #12094 01:12 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Also, I'm not saying you lack devs. That's not a claim. It's a matter of fact.
  • @ShawnLeary #12095 01:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Agreed
  • @junseth #12096 01:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The devs that contribute to counterparty do not have an interest in the science of the project.
  • @junseth #12097 01:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You don't get devs that are by moving chains.
  • @junseth #12099 01:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Yoi just fuck everyone over. What happens one day when people who ise the counterwallet app login to find that their bitcoijns are gone and their entire wallet is filled with lite coin addresses?
  • @junseth #12100 01:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Good
  • @junseth #12103 01:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Im amazed a votw could take place on an issue i was told last week wasnt even being considered. Glad the matter that didnt exist hss been settled.
  • @ShawnLeary #12105 01:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think people should know what the founders and core git hub maintainers feel.
  • @junseth #12106 01:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think that counterparties not developimg for compatiibility on bch was interestkng.
  • @ShawnLeary #12107 01:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    There are projects that are deaded now on XCP
  • @ShawnLeary #12108 01:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    and that’s fine
  • @junseth #12109 01:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @shawn, can you hold a vote on their favoritw sandwiches?
  • @junseth #12110 01:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'd like to know the answer to that too.
  • @ShawnLeary #12111 01:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    there is one project moving to BTrash
  • @junseth #12112 01:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Throw fsvorite jolly rancher flavors in there since were voting
  • @rarepepetrader #12113 01:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    IMHO the only way a fork could work equitably is if you could replicate all wallets exactly, preserving all balances, ownerships and orders on a future snapshot date with exhaustive public notification process over many months, then reinstantiate on a new chain, with same wallet addresses and secret phrases. and I don't even know if that's technically possible.
  • @rarepepetrader #12114 01:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    did somebody say sandwichpepe?
  • @104473096 #12115 01:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i like me a good Swiss Emmental melt
  • @ShawnLeary #12116 01:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i’m sure it’s fun to show up once a year and rag the volunteers :)
  • @junseth #12118 01:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Well, this entire matter would have been settled had the dev team acted competently during the fork and developed for both chains just in case.
  • not enough manpower
  • @104473096 #12120 01:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    atm it's just devon and me
  • @104473096 #12121 01:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    and i put like 20% of the work
  • @junseth #12123 01:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @chiguireitor i have plenty of respect for those maintaining the project. Thank you for your work.
  • @junseth #12124 01:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Thats not whats at issue here.
  • was there discusssion that took account of the example of the ETH/ETC hard fork outcome?
  • @ShawnLeary #12126 01:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think sending the project into hibernation and waiting for the big FinCen players to show up is a strategy, and i think that’s what’s going to have to take place now.
  • @ShawnLeary #12128 01:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    maybe a big company will show up tomorrow and go, hell yea. never know.
  • @junseth #12129 01:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I dint think anyone is proposing that shawn.
  • @ShawnLeary #12130 01:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    good
  • @ShawnLeary #12131 01:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    that’s why i think LLL is a good move
  • @ShawnLeary #12132 01:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i don’t think it can hurt
  • @junseth #12133 01:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Well, if you want to construct strawmen, again its going to be hard to argue.
  • @ShawnLeary #12134 01:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    the straw men were created at the start when LLL wasn’t permitted no?
  • @ShawnLeary #12135 01:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    why was the foundation non profit rejected and allowed to be deaded?
  • @ShawnLeary #12137 01:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i’ve had a change of heat.
  • @ShawnLeary #12138 01:23 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    is that allowed Dan?
  • @rarepepetrader #12139 01:23 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What are the chances of fixing the A names problem, no serious FinCen players are going to use Counterparty as an enterprise platform until all letters of the alphabet are available... I said this in November 2016, there was some good discussion on how that might be resolved, but the concerns around disenfranchising XA asset name holders seemed to outweigh the need to fix this?
  • @ShawnLeary #12140 01:23 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    not that anything i saw mean anything just spouting opinions
  • If nobody else kept a copy of the relevant discussion from Slack back then, I think I have a transcript in email... will go find it, if that's of use @droplister?
  • @rarepepetrader #12145 01:25 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Okay, thank you, will do
  • @ShawnLeary #12147 01:25 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i’m glad we are getting some more involvement out of all this drama. it’s a good thing regardless of the egos bruised and confusion.
  • @ShawnLeary #12148 01:26 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    it might just be enough to keep things moving in the right direction :)
  • @rarepepetrader #12149 01:26 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think we all want Counterparty to not only survive, but thrive and win... just differences of opinion on what that looks like and how to get there?
  • @rarepepetrader #12151 01:27 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    yes, almost parallel universes of difference 😉
  • @rarepepetrader #12152 01:28 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    genuine community consensus is a rare, curious, almost mythical beast...
  • @rarepepetrader #12153 01:28 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    there have been sightings here and there
  • @rarepepetrader #12154 01:29 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    is there a current document encapsulating the biggest threats and points of disagreement?
  • @rarepepetrader #12155 01:31 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I've spoken with Julian / BF and I understand his commercial requirements.. but he's one founder with a specific set of requirements... so that's a possible pathway that community could consider a broad based migration case for... or there are other options such as Litecoin one which I know very little about at this point? Any other options on the table?

    I understand the default position is staying with Bitcoin and continuing to seek optimisations, greater efficiencies.
  • @junseth #12156 01:31 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Well, again, there are some real issues. I think you have to move forward as though bitcoin is where this project is forever.
  • @junseth #12157 01:33 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So now you have isues on bitcoin. 1) fees are high. How do you solve that? 2) a assets arent allowed. Is that a problem? 3) when or of 3 letter assets?
  • @rarepepetrader #12158 01:33 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Yes, for Counterparty's current foundation team, developers and available funding, I believe that makes sense
  • @junseth #12159 01:33 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Julian is a moron
  • @junseth #12160 01:33 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    His project is retarded. And he can do whatever he wants. This is the blockfreight guy right?
  • @junseth #12161 01:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Sry didnt ask before insulting. Just assumed.
  • @rarepepetrader #12162 01:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    yes... if it makes sense for him commercially to do his own fork but the community sees no upside in going that way, he'll do it in whatever way works for him
  • @junseth #12163 01:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    There are plenty of other questions too. Do you reenable callavle assets?
  • @rarepepetrader #12164 01:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    well I know its not a fork, what's the correct term, a port?
  • @junseth #12165 01:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @rarepepenews, julians business willl literally go nowhere.
  • @junseth #12166 01:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Sure. Call it a port.
  • @junseth #12167 01:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Which is a place julian has never been despite trying to revolutionise the shipping industry.
  • @junseth #12168 01:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Blockchains suck.they are inefficient.
  • @junseth #12169 01:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Movong blockchains dors nothing but kick the can down the road.
  • @junseth #12170 01:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Your best bet, if low fees are your objective is to find the least used coin and port to ir
  • @104473096 #12171 01:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    A assets are problematic due to the encoding counterparty uses for their assets
  • @junseth #12172 01:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So i would propose porting to vaginacoin
  • @rarepepetrader #12173 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I believe the A assets problem has to be fixed before anyone can consider developing commercial / enterprise asset trading platforms on counterparty that have credibility in the fintech space.
  • @junseth #12174 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What do you mean john?
  • @104473096 #12175 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    basically ABSENT and BSENT are the same asset
  • @junseth #12176 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Right.
  • @104473096 #12177 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    an A at the start of the name encodes as a 0 in the asset ID
  • @rarepepetrader #12178 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    vaginacoin, haha, what about mooncoin, that's only 2 sats, I'm sure we can take it over :)
  • @junseth #12179 01:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But it shouldnt matter. What you could do from a ui persoective is just display any xa asset as an a asset
  • @junseth #12180 01:38 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Then reduce the letter count on a assets to be 11 instead of 12
  • @junseth #12181 01:38 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Since there is that dangling x.
  • @junseth #12182 01:38 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Just lett the owner decide upon creatuon whether it is an a or x asset.
  • @junseth #12183 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Well moving chains to avoid fees was always an absurd proposal because its a bet on the disuse of those chains.
  • @104473096 #12184 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    problem is what if i want to emit XACALITE
  • @104473096 #12185 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    (that's a pretty dank reference btw)
  • @junseth #12186 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What if? Let the asset owner toggle it in the ui
  • @104473096 #12187 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    hmmm
  • @rarepepetrader #12188 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    yes, I understand, moving chains is just swapping deckchairs around, unless it's to open up a compelling new set of functional possibilities not currently available
  • @104473096 #12189 01:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    it's not totally crazy...
  • @junseth #12190 01:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Or make all a names xa and all x names xx
  • @junseth #12191 01:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And both a and x will have only 11 characters in the namespace.
  • @rarepepetrader #12192 01:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    mapping XA —> A, it's a kludge, not an elegant consistent resolution :)
  • @104473096 #12193 01:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @junseth #12194 01:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The problems here aren't impossible mbut thats a ui issue. Thats it
  • @junseth #12195 01:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    When has any blockchain solution been elegant
  • @104473096 #12196 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    it would be awesome if we just fixed the encoding
  • @104473096 #12197 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    from Block X no asset can end on A
  • @104473096 #12198 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    lol
  • @junseth #12199 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You are encoding this shit in a giant beach of information that can onl y be founs with an index server.
  • @junseth #12200 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Hoe would you encode it john?
  • @104473096 #12201 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    instead of forward encoding, do backward encoding
  • that's true and funny AF in itself
  • @104473096 #12203 01:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    so APPLE would be ELPPA
  • @rarepepetrader #12204 01:42 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    EPEPERAR
  • @junseth #12205 01:42 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    That's interesting. But you still need a toggle for worss ending in a
  • @junseth #12206 01:42 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So the protocol knows.
  • @junseth #12207 01:43 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Or i suppose you'd deloneate it on creation. Point is that is still not any more elegant.
  • @rarepepetrader #12208 01:44 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm going to read https://counterpartytalk.org/t/idea-allow-assets-starting-with-a/2449 before I throw any more of my own thought bubbles in here :)
    Idea: Allow assets starting with A

    If we reserve the first 2 bytes for a special A asset marker and use the 3rd byte for a length marker, then any asset ID that starts with 0xfff would become a special A asset. The asset id encoding format for A assets will be: 0xffff {1 lengthByte} {5 assetIDBytes} We will need to make an exception for A18446744073709551615 as this action would invalidate this asset: http://blockscan.com/assetInfo/A18446744073709551615. (Or this asset would just turn into the equivalent named A asset ) Th...

  • @droplister did you have a separate CIP draft on CPT more recent than this older discussion?
  • @junseth #12211 01:48 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Yup
  • @rarepepetrader #12213 01:50 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    ah, thanks got it now https://counterpartytalk.org/t/cip-proposal-open-the-a-namespace/3946/2

    I note there's been no responses or feedback on your proposed code at this point.
    CIP Proposal - Open the 'A' Namespace

    This thread is about a potential CIP that would allow for non-numeric ‘A’ asset names. I have some code that I think covers most of it here, for review and feedback: Result: Non-numeric asset names starting with ‘A’ are valid. Check that assets are numeric rather than “Starts with ‘A’” Todos: Testnet tx fixture for parsing.

  • @104473096 #12214 01:52 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    just saw that thread
  • @104473096 #12215 01:53 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    will put my toughts there so you can check what needs to be put in
  • @104473096 #12216 01:53 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    A assets are a big protocol change btw
  • so is moving to LTC but that was not stopping anyone
  • @104473096 #12218 01:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    aaargh.... can't login to counterpartytalk from this one
  • LTC is not a protocol change
  • @104473096 #12220 01:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    is just another, separate implementation
  • If you were around from the beginning you would see that that kind of move was against all the ethos
  • Community ethos doesn't affects protocols
  • @104473096 #12224 01:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    protocols are sentiment-less
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12225 01:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Counterparty was always clearly a Bitcoin meta layer
  • @104473096 #12226 01:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    they aren't ethic nor unethic
  • @104473096 #12229 01:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    eth·ic
    ˈeTHik/
    noun
    noun: ethic; plural noun: ethics

    1.
    a set of moral principles, especially ones relating to or affirming a specified group, field, or form of conduct.
    "the puritan ethic was being replaced by the hedonist ethic"
  • @104473096 #12231 01:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    so with that in place.... a protocol change has a lifecycle
  • @104473096 #12234 01:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    that exists
  • @104473096 #12235 01:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    dogeparty
  • @104473096 #12240 01:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    aah lol
  • @104473096 #12242 01:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    naaah.... XCP is a BTC beast
  • @104473096 #12243 01:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    and with chris moss atomic swaps in place the environment changed drastically
  • @104473096 #12247 01:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    depends
  • @104473096 #12248 01:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    *regarding to pepe
  • @104473096 #12251 01:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    XCP over BTC is great for business shares
  • @104473096 #12254 01:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    equity and stuff
  • @104473096 #12258 01:58 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    cards and pepes prolly need to move somehow
  • @104473096 #12260 01:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Peperoniex i prefer
  • @104473096 #12262 01:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    lol
  • @104473096 #12265 01:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    there's a way
  • @104473096 #12266 01:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    but we're pondering over the legal stuff
  • @104473096 #12269 01:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    pepe guys
  • @104473096 #12270 01:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i should tag my comments now
  • @104473096 #12271 02:00 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    as pepe community founder> we're studying ways to solve it now
  • @rarepepetrader #12273 02:00 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    #rarepepe #pepedex
  • @104473096 #12274 02:00 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    as counterparty developer> the protocol is great, needs some fixes and adjustements to lower fees..... but it's working great for what it was intended for
  • @104473096 #12275 02:01 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    as foundation member> XCP stays on Bitcoin Core for the foreseeable future
  • @104473096 #12276 02:01 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    foundation seats are going to be elected soon though
  • @ShawnLeary #12279 02:04 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    what foundation?
  • @ShawnLeary #12280 02:04 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    the one dante was agreeing with devin to move to Litecoin with if asset names could be retained? lol
  • I'm missing the context for this zen koan
  • @104473096 #12282 02:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    as xcp dev> A starting assets need to change the encoding of counterparty asset names to IDs, currently the asset space exists between BAAA and ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
  • @ShawnLeary #12283 02:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    basically JDog is left with a bunch of funds in his control unless we have a foundation
  • @ShawnLeary #12285 02:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    it’s a shitty place to be in. part of the scorched earth plan
  • he was at the time :)
  • @rarepepetrader #12289 02:06 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    how can we have tranquil gardens were happy pepes conduct leisurely commerce from the comfort of their lily pads, instead of scorched earth?
  • @ShawnLeary #12291 02:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    jdog could just choose not to ever move the funds again as well regardless of what anyone says or wants. like u said, what if something happened to him?
  • @ShawnLeary #12293 02:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    what foundation?
  • is it not preposterous that possibly a billion dollars of theoretically realisible digital asset value can have a single point of failure? May J-Dog live long and prosper, but how is the non-existent foundation managing this risk?
  • @ShawnLeary #12295 02:10 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    we are waiting for Dante to come back so we can vote to hire a lawyer to fix everything LOL
  • @rarepepetrader #12296 02:10 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    oh, yeah I've seen how lawyers fix shit
  • @ShawnLeary #12297 02:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i think the foundation owes a couple hundred bucks to pay for the entity to continue
  • @ShawnLeary #12298 02:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    it’s not gone gone but close to being gone.
  • @rarepepetrader #12299 02:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    hmmm okay
  • @ShawnLeary #12300 02:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    but with the non profit not being approved i think it was pointless for it to continue AFAIK
  • @ShawnLeary #12301 02:12 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    but i’m not a lawyer
  • You are a liar @ShawnLeary

    There was a conference call where you and your cabal described your 3-5 possible plans to fork to LTC and the only one that would not damage asset holders with possible new owners of the same asset names was the first idea put out by Devon.

    I never agreed to doing a move to LTC but I voiced that the only idea that was the least shitty was that one. None of you people wanted that though.
  • @rarepepetrader #12303 02:12 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    so that's a thing to fix to start with
  • HaHahahahahahah!!!!
  • I'm waiting you to do some sucking
  • @ShawnLeary #12306 02:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    u are denying you agreed that a fork to LTC was good only if you held onto your asset names?
  • @rarepepetrader #12307 02:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm just gonna make a cup of tea and come back in a while...
  • @ShawnLeary #12308 02:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    you and devon were on the same page which made jdog quit the skype call
  • @ShawnLeary #12309 02:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    and then i came around to your two opinions but whatever
  • @ShawnLeary #12310 02:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i don’t agree
  • @ShawnLeary #12311 02:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    litecoin should be it’s own project
  • @ShawnLeary #12312 02:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    it’s not counterparty
  • @junseth #12313 02:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Because there are bo devs.
  • @ShawnLeary #12314 02:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i have no problem publicly stating when i change my mind
  • @ShawnLeary #12315 02:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i think the funny back story is the recent article about Trevor while on the board pushing for Bitcoin unlimited!
  • @ShawnLeary #12316 02:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i was in the “cabal” chat and never once heard that!!!
  • @ShawnLeary #12318 02:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i agree. they are in the discord, it was in the chat Dante setup
  • @ShawnLeary #12319 02:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It was in a public chat but wasn’t recorded
  • because they don't want that transparency
  • Dante who setup the discord?
  • @ShawnLeary #12324 02:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    again, i point to the last time the foundation was pushing for a fork. we never heard ANYTHING about it
  • all calls are recorded as you called for in the 1st meeting
  • @ShawnLeary #12326 02:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i’m the dick who has been trying to add Dan to the “cabal” chat.
  • @ShawnLeary #12327 02:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    ppl have left the chat thinking he might actually join too :)
  • dante who setup the Official Counteparty Discord where the cabal meeting took place?
  • @ShawnLeary #12330 02:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12331 02:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary you recorded the call last week as per your verbatim plagiarism of Robby's comments on the caall that you used in your last post on counterpartytalk
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12332 02:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary I invite you to post that audio
  • @ShawnLeary #12333 02:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Dante, who owns/setup the Counterparty Discord that the last “cabal” chat happened?
  • @ShawnLeary #12334 02:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    LOL
  • @ShawnLeary #12335 02:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Wait i’m the liar right??
  • Your cabal meeting? IDK where you did that
  • @rarepepetrader #12337 02:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    guys, this is fundamentally about ensuring there's an open transparent governance framework, providing clear procedures for debate, with a mechanism for all voices to be heard, some kind of democratic decision making process with verifiable documentation of outcomes?
  • @ShawnLeary #12338 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Dante did you setup the official counterparty discord?
  • @ShawnLeary #12339 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    YES
  • you know the answer
  • @ShawnLeary #12341 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You are hosting these “cabal” meetings. LOL
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12342 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    are you being cute?
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12343 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    nope
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12345 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    you have whatever other meetings you want
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12346 02:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    that I was not part of
  • he has kept this project alive.
  • @ShawnLeary #12349 02:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    what have you done?
  • @ShawnLeary #12350 02:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i didn’t deny the cabal
  • @ShawnLeary #12351 02:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    just curious to why Dante things he isn’t part of it all of a sudden
  • @ShawnLeary #12353 02:23 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Not sure what everyone is still fighting over
  • @ShawnLeary #12354 02:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Counterparty is Bitcoin and isn’t going anywhere.
  • @ShawnLeary #12356 02:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Unless everyone loves BCash and Julian 🤣
  • part of what dude?
  • @ShawnLeary #12358 02:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    exactly
  • @rarepepetrader #12361 02:29 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Not quite, this will have to do
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12364 02:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary why don't you release the recording from last Thursday? You know, the one where Robby asked for a vote among 7 people about who wanted to fork?
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12366 02:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Only people against it was Mike, me, and J-Douche (for his own weird reasons)

    For was Robby, Reuben, Devon,

    "On the fence" was Shawn Leary
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12367 02:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    is that not true @ShawnLeary ?
  • I'm still trying to grok all the recent action...

    I take it such a vote would have been a (non)foundation-non-binding straw poll, if it were not a publicly notified, convened and documented (non)foundation meeting?

    Hence the "cabal" references?
  • @rarepepetrader #12371 02:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think it's fine for people who either hold or have held leadership roles, or have highly invested stakes and interests in the project to have such discussions and to treat such votes as straw polls makes sense, then positions can be published for wider community input?
  • @rarepepetrader #12372 02:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm not going to get into people's personal beefs, I'm looking at this from a governance problem/solution perspective
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12373 02:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I was given a tl;dr months ago from one person that he and others including @ShawnLeary and @chiguireitor and others were planning a fork
  • @104473096 #12375 02:42 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    i didn't plan a fork... i publicly proposed pluggable chains
  • 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12377 02:42 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    BRB, ... dinner
  • @rarepepetrader #12378 02:43 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    if we start from the premise that we have a process problem, not a people problem, it makes deadlock resolution and forward progress much easier. I realise that's not necessarily the "truth" for everyone, but it's a place to stand and work from
  • @104473096 #12379 02:43 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    and been on the dev side since june
  • @rarepepetrader #12382 02:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm going to take some time today to read through counterpartytalk, get back into slack, go back over some of this, start to map out what I see the core themes and ideational conflicts are... if we can map out a set of conflict clouds for consideration, that could help break any remaining perceived deadlocks / paradoxes.
  • @rarepepetrader #12384 02:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Evaporating Cloud

    The Evaporating Cloud is one of the six Thinking Processes in the Theory of Constraints. The Evaporating Cloud (EC) - also referred to in the literature as "the cloud", or as a "conflict resolution diagram" - is a logical diagram representing a problem that has no obvious satisfactory solution.

  • @rarepepetrader #12385 02:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'll work through with this framework and see what I can come up with
  • @rarepepetrader #12386 02:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    the only certain point I can see requiring urgent action is getting the lawyering done to ensure the foundation is duely registered as an NFP with a valid board?
  • @rarepepetrader #12389 02:50 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    MFBA.

    Is there a conflict or impasse with respect to the very existence and rationale of the Counterparty Foundation?

    Does that need to be included in the scope of conflict resolution?
  • @rarepepetrader #12391 02:55 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    My natural assumption is a functional foundation (either with its current bylaws or with proposed amendments) is an essential requirement for effective project and community governance.

    However, if there is a desire on the part of enough interested parties to re-examine fundamental assumptions in order to achieve consensus to move forward, is there a benefit in doing that?

    I'm not trying to blow things up here by the way, I'm merely seeking to establish a common place for everyone to stand in shared understanding, in order to move forward.

    As it seems to me that is what is missing right now.

    If I've got this wrong, happy to be corrected :)
  • @rarepepetrader #12392 02:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And if not enough people think this is a useful line of inquiry, I'm happy to drop it. I'm committed to Counterparty's success, but I'm not Joan of Arc on a Crusade here.
  • @rarepepetrader #12393 02:59 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm not this Pepe.
  • Check this:

    https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/Documentation/blob/master/Bylaws/Counterparty_Foundation_Bylaws.md
    CounterpartyXCP/Documentation

    Official Documentation of the Counterparty Project - CounterpartyXCP/Documentation

  • Thank you, will do.
  • @rarepepetrader #12397 03:03 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    BTW, for those of you who don't know me, I was a two term city councillor of a large Sydney, Australia council, chaired various committees, including planning committee which debated and voted on hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property development, basically 8.5 years on the board of an entity with billions in assets and a $150M p.a. budget... I was deputy mayor in my final year , briefly acting mayor conducting citizenship swearing in ceremony... so I know a bit about governance, chairing debates and seeking community consensus on least worst outcomes, which is about the best we can hope for in this crazy messy imperfect world.
  • once I understand what I'd be letting myself in for :)
  • @rarepepetrader #12400 03:06 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    we need to surface all the conflicts and all critical issues requiring resolution first, put together an agenda... I'll learn the Bylaws first then come back for suggestions :)
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12404 03:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary are you going to post the audio from the last conference-call?

    Whether you should:

    I vote YES!
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12405 03:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Can everyone please chime in with your vote?
  • @ShawnLeary #12406 03:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What audio? The one you setup a bot to record with in you discord that hosted the meetin??
  • @ShawnLeary #12407 03:11 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Lol
  • @ShawnLeary #12408 03:12 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Meeting in
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12409 03:12 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary can you please answer the question at hand?
  • @KEKRELOADED #12410 03:13 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @ShawnLeary #12411 03:14 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Nice deflection Dante, you wouldn’t want the audio released because you were all about forking the entire project to Litecoin LOL
  • @ShawnLeary #12412 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Then someone knocked some sense into you :)
  • I'm asking you to
  • @ShawnLeary #12414 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Which is great
  • @ShawnLeary #12415 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Dude, it’s your discord chat
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12416 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Mr "I'm on the fence" Leary
  • @ShawnLeary #12417 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You spent weeks setting up all the different channels in IR
  • @ShawnLeary #12418 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It
  • @ShawnLeary #12419 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You even tested out the bot to record stud
  • @ShawnLeary #12420 03:15 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Stuff
  • @ShawnLeary #12421 03:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I have no idea how to record audio in discord nor care
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12422 03:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    post the audio shawn
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12423 03:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You didn't record it in Discord but you knew that
  • Yea, it’s called being honest Dante, you should look into it.
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12425 03:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    you're too cute
  • @ShawnLeary #12426 03:16 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What audio?
  • @KEKRELOADED #12427 03:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12428 03:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    do you not have the audio @ShawnLeary ?
  • @ShawnLeary #12429 03:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Seriously have no idea what you are talking about. Was there audio?
  • @ShawnLeary #12430 03:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I thought you had some bot
  • 👆🏼
  • @KEKRELOADED #12432 03:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @ShawnLeary #12433 03:17 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I could go back and screen capture where you added the audio bot, lol
  • @ShawnLeary #12434 03:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Dante it’s ok to have a change of heart, just don’t be a little b about it
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12435 03:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    why don't you answer the question honestly?
  • @ShawnLeary #12436 03:18 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Dante you know you are wrong bro. Sad
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12437 03:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It will all come out @ShawnLeary
  • @ShawnLeary #12438 03:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    How dare you break the blood brother oath of the cabal!! Shame on your family for ten generations ;)
  • @ShawnLeary #12439 03:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Give me back my three goats
  • @KEKRELOADED #12440 03:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12441 03:19 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    you are already doomed - you went full scammer
  • @ShawnLeary #12442 03:20 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I’ve been the most honest and open board member I think.
  • @ShawnLeary #12443 03:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think this makes Trevor back on the board with his single vote he garnered
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12444 03:21 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    you were part of that fork cabal that Jdog told me about
  • you should do that!!!!! I love how you guys think
  • @ShawnLeary #12446 03:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It’s joes fault, he sent one vote to each person to test out the system
  • @KEKRELOADED #12447 03:22 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
  • @ShawnLeary #12449 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What audio? To which cabal meeting?
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12450 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary please answer
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12451 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Last week
  • @ShawnLeary #12452 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    All the ones u were at? Or the ones before?
  • @ShawnLeary #12453 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I’ve recorded one Counterparty hangout and posted it
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12454 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    what part of last week is difficult?
  • @ShawnLeary #12455 03:24 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    If I had any audio of course I would share it.
  • @ShawnLeary #12456 03:25 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The one where u were in favor of a fork to Litecoin? Lol
  • are you saying that you do not?
  • @ShawnLeary #12459 03:26 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @ShawnLeary #12460 03:26 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    When Pepepoloniex?
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12461 03:26 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    @ShawnLeary will not directly answer a simple question
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12462 03:27 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    interesting
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12463 03:29 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Dante, [29.12.17 21:36]
    Only people against it was Mike, me, and J-Douche (for his own weird reasons)

    For was Robby, Reuben, Devon,

    "On the fence" was Shawn Leary

    Dante, [29.12.17 21:36]
    is that not true @ShawnLeary ?
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12464 03:30 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Can you also answer this otherone that you ignored? @ShawnLeary 👆🏼
  • @ShawnLeary #12465 03:30 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    To fork, or not to fork, this is the question

    I am starting this thread to squelch a burgeoning moan from some and to bring transparency for others. There have been a few community members desiring that we move this entire project to another chain. This would involve a snapshot at a set block and everything, lock stock and barrel, gets implemented on a new chain, they have mainly suggested Litecoin as the destination. Litecoin has proven itself to stay lock step with Bitcoin Core and I imagine that this will continue down the road. Bitc...

  • @ShawnLeary #12466 03:30 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    This was my thoughts after being on the fence
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12467 03:30 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    👆🏼 mostly Robby's words
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12468 03:30 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You stole most of that LOL
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12469 03:31 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    you wanted to sound as smart as Robby 😂
  • @ShawnLeary #12470 03:31 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So when did you change your mind on the fork to Litecoin?
  • @ShawnLeary #12471 03:31 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    LOL when Dan spanked you? ;)
  • @ShawnLeary #12472 03:32 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Josh said, are you fucking cray??
  • @ShawnLeary #12473 03:32 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Lol
  • @ShawnLeary #12474 03:32 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Talk about having original thoughts lolol
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12475 03:32 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    when did you stop fucking your boyfriend?
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12476 03:32 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Does your spouse know?
  • @ShawnLeary #12477 03:32 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    You are a complete contradiction. I’m on record, did you even comment on that thread?
  • @ShawnLeary #12478 03:33 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    No you said I QUIT! Now we get Trevor lol
  • @ShawnLeary #12480 03:33 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Serves us right :)
  • J-Douche decided that because it is his website after all
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12482 03:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    He does own all the domains
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12483 03:34 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    and the money
  • @ShawnLeary #12484 03:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    JDog has been keeping this project going for the last couple years. We should be thankful of his efforts
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12485 03:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    🙏
  • @ShawnLeary #12486 03:35 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    When the old block explorer shut down he built xchain to replace it
  • @ShawnLeary #12487 03:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Blockscan, can’t remember, it was dank
  • @ShawnLeary #12489 03:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I would like more ppl too TBH
  • @ShawnLeary #12490 03:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    An escrow legal entity would be great
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12491 03:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It is just J-Dogparty
  • @ShawnLeary #12492 03:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think we will have that again
  • @104473096 #12493 03:36 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    We need more people for PR stuff too
  • @ShawnLeary #12494 03:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Hold new elections and move on.
  • @FloridaBitcoiner #12495 03:37 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Impeach
  • @ShawnLeary #12498 03:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I think everyone would be happy to dissolve it, just don’t want him to be stuck with legal implications. Worse case scenario the money gets lost. One way is it goes back to who donated
  • @ShawnLeary #12499 03:39 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Or somehow we get a legal entity again and then it just hands it over.
  • @ShawnLeary #12500 03:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Maybe Dante could hold the funds?
  • did you all discuss that already?
  • @104473096 #12502 03:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    There's also the fact that the community has 0 interest in running ancillary services for Counterparty benefit
  • @104473096 #12503 03:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The only guy putting up the time for that is jdog
  • You didn’t record the audio?? Wtf!!?? 😂
  • @104473096 #12506 03:40 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Explorers: 1
  • @104473096 #12508 03:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Official wallet: ran by jdog because no one else does
  • @104473096 #12509 03:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Public api: jdog
  • @104473096 #12511 03:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Where's the community stepping up to replace him
  • @104473096 #12512 03:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    No
  • @104473096 #12513 03:41 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm not meaning that
  • @104473096 #12515 03:42 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But jdog runs that one too
  • @104473096 #12517 03:43 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What I mean: if you care about Counterparty, hosting public services is something that's in dire need
  • @104473096 #12520 03:43 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    No one has asked here how much costs to run Counterparty servers, and who pays it
  • And I use it a lot
  • @ShawnLeary #12524 03:44 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It’s a good resource
  • Because you could change Counterparty man
  • @104473096 #12526 03:44 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It's open source
  • Yep... About that price
  • @104473096 #12530 03:44 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Guess who pays it?
  • he gets reimbursed and he is also running a business that relies on that running
  • Yup
  • @ShawnLeary #12533 03:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I donated a 1BTC to run his servers
  • @104473096 #12534 03:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    We're all here to make money
  • @104473096 #12535 03:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Ain't we?
  • @ShawnLeary #12536 03:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Not sure when it was but was way before the current run up
  • @104473096 #12538 03:45 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I mean, no one here is meaning to sacrifice their lives for a hopeless cause
  • @104473096 #12539 03:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    If you really care for Counterparty, do something
  • @104473096 #12540 03:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I code for it
  • @104473096 #12541 03:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Admittedly I just have done just 1 accepted cip
  • @104473096 #12542 03:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But I'm finishing a big one (cip10)
  • @104473096 #12543 03:46 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And have several PRs opened against several issues
  • @104473096 #12545 03:47 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm not playing that
  • @104473096 #12546 03:47 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I'm making loads of money out of that
  • @104473096 #12547 03:47 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Because I know what's to come
  • @104473096 #12548 03:47 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So if you're in for the money, and want Counterparty to fill your bags, do something
  • @104473096 #12549 03:48 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The explainer video: no one has picked up the slack
  • @104473096 #12551 03:48 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    A simple video explaining what Counterparty is
  • @104473096 #12552 03:48 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    3-5 minutes, simple words...
  • @104473096 #12553 03:49 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Someone needs to make the storyboard and propose it
  • @104473096 #12556 03:51 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    I clicked on that video and a dash ad popped
  • @104473096 #12557 03:51 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Lol
  • @104473096 #12558 03:51 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    That's what I mean
  • @104473096 #12559 03:51 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Even on Counterparty videos I get videos about some other crypto
  • @104473096 #12560 03:51 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And we have the funds
  • @104473096 #12561 03:51 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It's not like we don't
  • @104473096 #12562 03:52 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Chris video is ok for geeky ppl
  • @104473096 #12564 03:53 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But we need to explain to ppl buying XRP why that's a bad idea and instead invest in XCP (because, hey, this is way a better platform)
  • Yeah
  • @104473096 #12566 03:53 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But counterwallet is heavy
  • @104473096 #12567 03:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And there's more need of API endpoints
  • @104473096 #12569 03:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Plugins for i.e. unity
  • @104473096 #12570 03:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Etc
  • @104473096 #12571 03:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    The list is huge
  • @104473096 #12573 03:54 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And there's so much we can do enhancing the protocol
  • Yep
  • @104473096 #12575 03:55 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    What we also need is another desktop wallet
  • @104473096 #12576 03:55 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Because the only one is made by... Guess who
  • @104473096 #12578 03:55 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    That's a plug-in
  • @104473096 #12580 03:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Rarepepewallet is great, but it's closed source
  • @104473096 #12581 03:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Not that you cannot ctrl-shift-j it tho
  • @104473096 #12583 03:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Indeed
  • @104473096 #12584 03:56 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    XCP is best in class because it is on BTC
  • @104473096 #12585 03:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Pluggable chains was an idea to appease the TX fee hordes
  • @104473096 #12586 03:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But as we can see, that gets solved by forks
  • @104473096 #12587 03:57 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And the more the merrier
  • @KEKRELOADED #12588 04:00 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @104473096 #12589 04:01 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Lol... Witch kiss is a real issue
  • @104473096 #12590 04:01 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Stupid short toilets
  • @104473096 #12591 04:02 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Btw.... When I say explainer video, I would love something like kurzgesagt
  • @KEKRELOADED #12592 04:03 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    It's the year of the forks, John
  • @KEKRELOADED #12593 04:03 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @104473096 #12594 04:03 AM, 30 Dec 2017
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  • @104473096 #12595 04:04 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    As an exercise I'll probably implement a redis backend for Counterparty
  • @104473096 #12596 04:04 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So ppl can run Counterparty on redis lol
  • @104473096 #12597 04:04 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    That would be downright hilarious
  • @KEKRELOADED #12598 04:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    A backend plugin
  • @104473096 #12599 04:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    No
  • @KEKRELOADED #12600 04:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
  • @KEKRELOADED #12601 04:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Lol. Oh. Jajajaja
  • @104473096 #12602 04:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Counterparty is designed in such a way that it really doesn't needs a real chain behind it if you bend it enough
  • @104473096 #12603 04:05 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    And the amount of "bending" is kinda minimal
  • Aah welp... Yeap, like addrindex, btcd or indexd
  • @KEKRELOADED #12605 04:06 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    So, we can bend pepes off chain, group them and such
  • @104473096 #12606 04:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Not really
  • @104473096 #12607 04:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    If you take them off chain they lose value
  • @KEKRELOADED #12608 04:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Indeed
  • @KEKRELOADED #12610 04:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Even with prints. Over saturation.
  • @104473096 #12611 04:07 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Unless it is done via an atomic swap... But that's centralized asf
  • @104473096 #12613 04:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Prolly
  • @104473096 #12614 04:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    But running it would need a lot of lawyering up
  • Centralized exchanges. DEX is complicated for most. They need a central authority.
  • @104473096 #12616 04:08 AM, 30 Dec 2017
    Yup