- 09 January 2018 (443 messages)
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Rumours of fork
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No you don't. There will be a new burn.
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Hahaha
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are you sure?
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until that time will delete any fork garbage.
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Read this from devon. For those unfamiliar with the burn process, here is a good summary: https://counterparty.io/news/why-proof-of-burn/. Also see How was XCP launched at https://counterparty.io/docs/FAQ-XCP/.
I propose that XCPC be distributed in a new burn. This is a fair way to distribute XCPC and immediately vests users in the project.
I propose that we follow the same protocol as the original XCP burn (5000 Bitcoin blocks, linear decrease of reward between 1500-1000 XCPC per BCH).
We can start the burn on approximately March 1st 2018 and it will end near the beginning of April 2018 -
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this going to be XCP to XCPC airdrop?
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or just BCH to XCPC?
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ah sorry, didn't read
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yea thanks.
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my initial thoughts is that they should fork
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I was in here last week and proposed a switch to the BCH layer, but I was met with some resistance
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Wut?
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Please explain to me....is there a hard fork of xcp and would there be free coins?
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Fuck free coins, what's going on with XCP?
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I hope it's clear to them
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same old same old
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The last one was not stupid.
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Not really?
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Is it a fork? Or a new start?
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It's not possible to do the fork so they have to start from scratch.
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XCP still chugging along, people just creating more implementations
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who is working on this? former XCP devs?
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I'm am where my Pepes are
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your pepes live on the rarest chain
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You can for the protocol but not the chain
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no one has any idea what is going on
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kek
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bch is pretty much the same as btc, so i don't see why they couldn't fork it easily
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Exactly and price spiked
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counterparty gold coming out next month
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They couldn't fork the XCP tx since bcash started... Think about it
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most likley on speculation that you will get XCPC for holding XCP
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I'll create SuperXCP and UniteXCP
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Counter-Counterparty
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i'll take XCP Private
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CCP
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and lite XCPs
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choyna coin
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dark XCPs
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I'll create XCaradanoP
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XCPump
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^this
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bittrex mewn
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XCP break down trend
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mewn to .1
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all in
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Ammended (Clarification):
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XCPC will launch March 1st, 2018.
It is proposed there will be a “burning”
In January 2014, over 2,100 bitcoins were burned, creating about 2.6 million XCP.
January 2018, XCPC is a community consultation period.
Launch details will be published here before Feb 4th, 2018. -
Site updated.
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Seeing the fees on XCP it's comprehensive.
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Are u behind XCPC?
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that's to guarantee a pump
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Just give free coins....that's all
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Where's that XCPC site?
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XCP Cash?! WTF
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Sounds ridiculous
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i guess what everyone wants to know is if, XCP is worth hodling right now
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dan
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or just a dev abandon shit coin
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CounterCash sounds great
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bitcoin party sounds like a good time too
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When PepecashCash?
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but this isn't a bitcoin clone, it's a XCP clone
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Big drop now
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Who's behind it? dweller? And?
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Haha... That's mister I scammed you all with Blockfreight
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Well. @jsmith_dev your reputation is near Zero.
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freightcash
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Blockfreight-we-have-a-nice-logo-and-mix-blockchain-with-freight-shipping-without-having-a-clue-of-freight-shipping-and-blockchain
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you forgot the TM
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TM.
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Devon really hangs out with that guy? Wow. My DEVON tokens just became worthless. I pay you for taking some...
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the more you guys hate this thing, the more it's going to pump when it arrives
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Yes
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hatepump
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BCH XRP
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moon
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hated by most
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Yeah. No worries. Everything is pumping right now. Too many greedy noobs.
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XCPC please hate it
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oh it'll definitely pump
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but what about my dank pepes??
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pepe cash cash
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link?
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cash pepe cash
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Nah. It's okay to do it. But Mr Smith as a dev does not make hope on big progress
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is there going to be a ledger snapshot and continuation of the current Counterparty?
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no info yet. just flailing and panicking
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It's bound to fail with Mr Blockfreight in the team. What a pity.
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i hadn’t seen that definite yet. that’s good
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i can't wait to create XCPC2
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they should throw this whole process on it's head and airdrop only to people who have Blockfreight tokens
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everyone would be so pissed
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too bad they didn’t spend their time making that product rather than this BTrash fork
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c'mon now, you don't need a product, only tokens necessary
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they literally picked the one chain every maximalist hayes
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hates
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what could go wrong
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Yeah. But I think Smith is just trying to piggyback on dweller's shoulders, so he can pull off the same number a second time. Cc @jsmith_dev
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this is perfect
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the amount of hate is going to send this flying
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1.) Make token 2.) Get on exhange 3.) Retire 4.) Before retire higher someone to shove something out the door in two weeks.
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if you are a btc maximalist, please don't buy this coin.
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burning BCash is good though, lol
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it'll only raise the worth of BCH
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so technically not good if u want bch to fail
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actually it lowers marketcap
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Want to define what you mean there ?
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You took money from people but we're neither capable nor willing to deliver.
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That’s kinda bullshit.
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Da fuk?
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Proof? What did you deliver except a nice logo and a TM?
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Your GitHub is less active as than Freicoin
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I mean the Blockfreight github
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But it has a nice logo.
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exactly
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And a TM
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Blockfreight, Inc.
Blockfreight™ the blockchain of global freight. Blockfreight, Inc. has 19 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.
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Delaware - Shanghai - Zug - Melbourne
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The future of the Bitcoin chain is a relevant to Blockfreight™ roadmap.
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I’m scratching our own itch.
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Sure. I am impressed how you find time to take care of all this between the conferences you visit...
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This doesn't make sense....let there be an official statement, they even retweeted the fork....looks like insider buying is on though
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Bcash will be clogged as well until you have a alpha of the imaginary Blockfreight client.
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Dan I don’t need to do it anonymously
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Motivation is uncomplicated
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good luck with this Julian. props for stepping up and trying to save this abandoned coin.
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If y’all don’t want to use it, don’t.
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Django - I’m not sure how you have such a jaundiced view of Blockfreight, Inc. and I’m sorry our startup rubs you the wrong way.
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they don't hate Blockfreight, they are blinded by their hate for BCH.
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anything tied to that coin is immediatly a scam to them
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As for our application and codebase - happy to take constructive criticism or better yet - pull requests on our Github if you have contribution to make beyond being critical.
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Oh I followed Blockfreight now and then. And the only thing I've seen were loudmouth arguments, nice logos, wall screens with world maps. But not any bit of technical and business insight that would prove that you have what it takes to enter the freight shipping space.
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Ok.
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Do you run a logistics business?
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Maybe that’s why we haven’t been collaborating recently.
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(Assuming you don’t)
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BCH burns xPCP when they smoke it
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go home namefag
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If you do run a logistics business - tell us where we are fucking up, because as an industry member, we work for you.
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Urban Dictionary: namefag
Term used on 4chan.org for people who post using a name instead of simply post as "anonymous" like most others do. Usually used as in insult.
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Show me your industry membership. What's your expertise there?
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@jsmith_dev Why not burn XCP for XCPC
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Django - are you on our cap table?
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On your table? Beware!
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Burn makes no sense
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@jsmith_dev if this is how you get treated by the XCP community, maybe there is no need for you to reward xcp holders with xcpc.
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or the community should be able to vote this
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and you go with the burn.
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XCP holders get XCPC?
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not as of now
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I'm not against the idea of XCPC. We all discussed this possibility since a while. But am am very careful to touch things where Julian has his fingers in..
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Sorry Julian. No personal offense meant, but you did not deliver anything yet.
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There no guarantee the protagonists hold any XCP - so that might not make sense.
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I don’t get it, for 1 XCP we will get 1XCPC? Is it bcash fork or what? Lol
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So you say. I don’t concur.
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oh they are bag holding for sure
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@jsmith_dev Fux them haters Juli. ICO that thang.
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yea good idea. is there a telegram for XCPC?
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There won’t be an ICO.
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you don't need the support of XCP to do this
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Awwww you suck assets.
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So spill the beans. Where's that Blockfreight code? XCP was good enough for a long time to deliver proof.
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It was raised - evaluated - and eliminated
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Proof of burn or hard fork?
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or just @Counterparty
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hard burn
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this is @Counterparty_XCP ! :)
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He is banned
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xcpc will give you hard burn
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@jsmith_dev I think litelayer is better
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thx
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No need to ban him. His first project was on XCP. Don't let us repeat the childish BTC vs Bcash censorwars
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Poll for members to ban @jsmith_dev
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Nope. Banning is weak.
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Burn him alive then. Lol
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Im just funning. Lol. You know me and controversy.
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Fuck me. Ok.. so - you’re welcome.
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Bend over and spell R U N
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I C U P
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I’ll be in other channels😌
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Face pump or waist pump. Your choice. 😘💸🍆
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Wanted to give you update - sorry you don’t seem to find it useful.
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Have a great / afternoon / morning / night.
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L8tr
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It is useful. But we are watching you.
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there it is you guys. u just trolled away the best chance for this coin.
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Pffft...
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if julian is our best chance for anything then we've already lost
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now u have no devs
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That.
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you think julian is a dev???
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i know he's not a dev
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Devon is still one dev. And I don't see any other.
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i thought Devon was done
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You don't seem very smart. How did you get here?
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Juli hasn't produced any working projects. Just opportunist ideas.
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devon is around, so is robby and john
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and chris moss and me
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i was lost
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XCP DreamTeam
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and dan
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Jdog is John?
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so you guys doing anything with this
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Naw
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or you gonna let it die?
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Then me Looney did not mention the fabulous jDog
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John es mi amigo donde Venezuela, Kekistan
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it may be surprising to hear but xcp is actually being more actively developed now than at any time since the first few months after it was released
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nice. ur right. i am surprised
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Comprendo! Much as gracias commandante Kek!
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Indeed. Great timing for chaos. All Hail Kek
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KEKRELOADED tambien
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The Bounties quadrupled in price so I can understand that.
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Or maybe not hail her.
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is there anything that can be done on XCPs part about the fees?
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or is that a btc problem?
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Several CIPs are easing it a bit, but it's still mainly BTCs problem afaik
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idunno. that is the saying....
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You a Discordian?
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ok thanks. good to know
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fees are a temporary innerDDOS and will not be an issue in the future. Being reliant upon any shitcoin will be an issue, however.
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oh right. roger ver did this right
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Caused by those forks as usual. Those who create new coins from btc and claim to be better. So they do whatever it takes to slow bitcoin down.
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in good news XCP is ATH in dollar terms
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engrish only here friend
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Que
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hi
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Guys is the fork real or scam ?
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realy ?
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Until now it's just a group forking the code
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Not the ledger
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Expect more code forks this year
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A real forking scam from a great idealist with no working products.
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You can't fork the XCP ledger over to bcash.
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Indeed
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is fork real or not
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Not without loosing a half year of XCP transactions
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Read above erken
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But the snapshot would be kinda centralized
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https://counterparty.cash/
İs web site yours ? -
Yes. But you can't migrate the new addresses since the split.
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Nope
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At least I think it wouldn't be possible.
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lan fork varm ı yok mu deli ettiniz ya
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Only until the split block of bcash / BTC
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Yes, you can buy some ERDOPEPEGANs, if I understood you correctly.
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Imagine you create a new XCP address today and I send a Pepe to it. How would you migrate that? That address does not have inputs on the other (bcash) side
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In the spirit of full disclosure, I'm gonna help getting the code portable to different chains which are code forks with commits to the code organizing some stuff
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I won't support any code related to ledger forks tho
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@chiguireitor Your Crypto Whore. Not a very cheap one either. Jajajaja
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fork varmı forkkk
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xcpc fork realy ?
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Expensive
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Solo bromeando @chiguireitor Hoy me estoy divirtiendo mucho siendo un supergolpe.
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We Da Best Music memes are on the rise. buy buy buy
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It's possible technically
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Counterparty doesn't rely on utxos like colored coins do
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With all these forks happening, wouldn’t it have been cool to have an organization around to help direct funds back to the main counterparty source code dev work. 🤣🤣🤣
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we can hope that the other counterparty chains stay close to the existing Counterparty code so we can use their improvements in the case they get ahead of our development
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i would LOVE to see greater teamwork out of all this forking talk...
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me too
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In development currently
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Cip 10 and 6 wrapped up recently so changes are coming soon. We know the community is frustrated by the delay but this is why we can't set solid timelines for these things. Everyone at CP even the devs works fulltime day jobs also. :/
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- 10 January 2018 (772 messages)
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around $40,000 USD worth of counterparty asset value transfers have been in progress off the back of yesterday's Rare Pepe auction.
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Wouldn’t it be double that?
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technically, yes 🙂
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Technically = true
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true dat haha 🙂
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Jenny from the Block(chain)
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Are you accusing the person delegated by the foundation to hold funds as holding them hostage? That's quite an accusation, would hope you have some proof to back it up
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Did the directors go to you and tell you that funds they voted on spending weren't sent out?
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I'm curious if you have insider info
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The foundation not being able to spend their funds
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You claim they didn't hold their fund so it was like they didn't have them to spend
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What does the foundation holding its funds look like?
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Refunds
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like it states in the by-laws
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it is called a Treasurer
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It's just a strange claim
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Like if my money is in the bank, am I holding it?
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where in the by-laws does it cover refund policy?
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Foundation voted for it
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like if it is in the bank under some unrelated person's account?
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Isn't that what the bylaws state? Directors vote on what to do with funds
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Maybe Dante should have done that
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they vote on violating the bylaws?
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You should call the IRS
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Let em know
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I asked those questions but was unable to suss out the answers
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You must have known minutes weren't kept
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Or did you only think of it when dan said something?
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I requested the minutes but all I got was "duh"
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You did that when you joined?
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Nah it's the other way around
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that's very cute - you're so smart joe
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No just you, Dante is the patsy
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A hired gun
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I know that whistle blowers are not popular but who are you protecting Joe?
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No one
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I'm just calling a spade a spade
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You're calling it a club
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oh, let me find what makes me ask that Joe
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That there's nothing wrong with delegating the holding of funds to someone
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Which is what the foundation did pretty openly
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yes there is
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it states in the bylaws how that must happen - or did you not read them?
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I'm surprised you didn't say anything before dan started shouting then
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If it was so important to you
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I said plenty on a conference in Discord but you were not there - explains your ignorance
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ok. lets switch gears and tone please.
we are all here for the same reason.
we can agree that out of misunderstanding comes assumptions. I do not like the patter some people are stuck in. let the miners do the rehashing. we are a team? then do as the korean drama does and #FIGHTING -
I mean that setup has been pretty open for over a year
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A year is a long time to hold something in that you think is important
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Can I read the minutes you took?
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there was no secretary to do that Joe
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Jdog is a former director, certainly not random, and anyone involved in cp is entitled to an opinion
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I called for having a lawyer hold the funds in a legal escrow account and that called for all hell to break loose
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It's just strange that you cry foul when you can't point to a time the directors couldn't spend the funds
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"former" <--- that is not in accordance with the bylaws
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Hello how popular is Nomni?
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Hella popular
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You got some already?
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Wait so the foundation created the pump too??
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chicken or beef?
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Raided?
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dan im coming over for dinner make me something good
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i like fresh veggies
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Hahaha I doubt anything would you stop you from speculating
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how is it that you are *not* speculating? who is pumping you inside information Joe?
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Dan
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He's behind all of it
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Mastermind
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i complained about the functional liquidity problem misleading people and a personal attack parade came out of the woodwork. pains me to see newcomers months later complain about the same list of things ... and guess what? chick chick bang
the groupthink shoots him down.
every valid facet of this issue... which is all downright inconsiderate could be foremost fixed with a simple "out of order" sign/alert so that new users do not waste tx learning that nothing on theDEX will trade for bitcoin.
meanwhile, the foundation managed to hire a rat to code. This ship is not sinking.
bottom line is that there should have been re-elections and debates. I do not appreciate the shootting-itself-in-the-foot method, it is not nearly as honorable as seppuku -
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Dan wanted his massive donation back to start a competing xcp, so he engineered a scorched earth tactic to force the foundation into folding
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funny that you probably described something that actually happened without realizing it - but you changed the names to protect the guilty
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anecdotal: i've been on the boards of companies with 10M annual rev that couldn't keep proper minutes of meetings
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I'm not protecting anyone, why would I want that liability, from my POV the setup the foundation had was working just fine until dan rolled up with his sidekick Dante to make baseless accusations and the unpaid directors didn't feel like dealing with the drama so they folded the foundation
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that in itself implies incompetence more than bad actors
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altho to an investor it's one and the same
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y'all keep it up - this is entertaining
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This is why I'm glad I refused to be part of it
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I knew something like this would happen eventually
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Who are you protecting, Joe?
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It's so funny that you see conspiracies everywhere
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i still don't know what going on around here (i've been here a year)
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it's semi exciting
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What do you want me to say?
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Shawn?
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just like you told Dan but sorry that he was right
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John?
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Sull?
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Jdog?
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Devon?
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Robby?
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Dante?
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Dan?
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Jp?
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Julian?
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Which one fits your conspiracy Dante?
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Maybe dan and Dante saw xcp pumping and wanted to cause a dip to buy into the pump so they created a bunch of drama?
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I'm looking for the screen-shot, joe
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Did you get your donation refunded Dante?
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I think it’s Johns fault. We should probably target and attack the last guy wanting to code for us
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Don't worry dan will take over as core dev so he can get his 3 letter assets
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That's where this all started actually
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It’s the Venezuelan pluggable petro chain CIP
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it's obvious that you were leading from behind all along
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Like I’ve said from the start, I like his passion, we need more help.
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I know, it was me all along
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Just not the cray part
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You got me
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Looks like spitballing to me
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@therealloon3 do you see your name there?
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'nothin to see here...'
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Yep we discuss things
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I wonder if it was such a secret why he would tell you?
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So funny that the main person running interference is Looney
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You caught me Dante, all foundation funds were funneled to me
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I gave rare pepes to all the foundation members so they'd vote my way
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that is what everyone who gets caught says
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