someone put that in the forked chat

lol

haha kek

it must have been deleted?

What's the link @XCERXCP?

Kek

Core dev’s life goals

Yes, he has said that many times... however, it is not true... his "backwards compatible" MPMA sends were missing the ability to send memos... his "backwards compatible auto-convert BTC send to a dispense tx" failed due to dispenses not being able to be created on addresses which had previously had an closed dispenser on them.... so I guess we have different versions of "backwards compatible"..... As I said, adam is really good at the technical word salad to make you feel like he has a handle on things.... but, just gotta look at all the "hotfixes" and "emergency updates" in the past 3 weeks to bring that into question

Releases in the last 3 weeks :
counterparty-core 10.4.3
counterparty-core 10.4.4
counterparty-core 10.4.5
counterparty-core 10.4.6
counterparty-core 10.4.7
counterparty-core 10.4.8
counterparty-core 10.5
counterparty-core 10.6
counterparty-core 10.6.1

This is what not properly testing your software before release looks like. Which is strange, because I thought we all heard that they had built an automated test system to make sure releases were stable... I wonder what they are testing in their automated tests 🤷️️️️️️😂️️️️️️

I found him

Main grifter is typing

lol

blah blah blah Stamps are the future for CP and the shitcoin casino... and poor SRC-20 was forced off Counterparty by big bad J-Dog.... wait for it 😛

did you notice they call us a cult? just like the msm several years ago.

Let's consider a hypothetical: imagine if multiple independant dispensers could be set-up on a single address. They could be triggered individually rather than the current behaviour where buying the most expensive one triggers them all. Would non-source address dispensers still be needed or even desireable?

So close...

Must be annoying, really hope we can all work this out. So counterparty can move forward

Imagine.. a future where all these functions worked flawlessly... thats great mike... Already been over that... TLDR, don't break shit until the replacements are working

But you'd be cool with this sort of feature assuming it works, right?

I like multi dispensers, but would also be cool setting up non multi dispensers from a main address

Would you agree it would obviate the need for non-source address dispensers

in a future scenario when it was working and tooling was already existing and users were agreeing to depreciate an existing functionality in favor of it... YES, I would support it... but that is not where we are

took it as a compliment kek

It would be very easy to resolve this:

Adam should;

Return what was broken.

1chain resolved.

Why is this difficult?

Mike, why are you in here talking in circles... the solution is simple, restore the lost functionality... talking about new better untested ways to do things doesn't solve the NOW problem of lost functionality

appreciate you trying to suggest features, but we past believing the "it will work real soon"... shit is broke NOW

he represents the lollipop kids

I watched some of them mistake windows for lollipops

At least @mikeinspace is talking about possible solutions rather than just chanting "J-Dog is the fork, J-Dog is the problem".... appreciate that... but, still, new functionality doesn't fix the loss of functionality or allow users to slowly transition to this new functionality... they are immediately forced onto it, and have no choice.... better solutions can exist, but they need to be proven and CHOOSEN as the better solution, not decided from on high by the great leader.... Community voice matters... well... matters to some

neway... enough talking in here today... not enough progress.. back to changes... cp20.tokenscan.io and classic.tokenscan.io up... will post some headers to switch between the versions, then on to "FreeWallet 2.0" and "FreeWallet Classic" release... back in a bit

Gn frogs

And grifters and trolls

Maybe Mike should spend his efforts in the forked chat

Gn homeslice

Another hypothetical to consider:

Adam restores previous functionality that apparently he wasn’t even aware of as demonstrated by Kane in the Spaces today.

oh like basic function of attaching art to a token? Imagine not even knowing about that lol

I tuned in on X to the recording. What happened at the end? It cuts off at the end of Kanes question

It ends. Suddenly

the degens at the bitcoin frontier fund probably thot mints were gonna be some degen ordinal hype, but never trust a dude with missing teeth thats a VC 🤣

masters cut him

was dropping too many moabs

Did they tweet why? I haven't looked

Said in 2.0 chat that lost signal…

Something like that

New space will be up in 2 weeks kek

Yeah lost signal alright kek

‘Turned to airplane mode lol

Instantly jumped in chat like nothing happened too 😂

Adam seemed ‘genuinely’ surprised at the loss of functionality that Kane was describing.

Wow, I missed this whole context, it's even worse

Flashing lights @ the casino got em

When will the market be open for trading?

Could you descibe it, I must have missed that part. I'm assuming Kane's asset was pointing at some multimedia content that's not rendering or something?

U were in the space dude

Mike was in the space

Yes, and I missed parts of it. I do have a day job too

Basically Adam not being aware of CIP25... the Enhanced Asset Information... the one I defined 2 years ago where people could attach all sorts of different art and media to tokens.... https://github.com/jdogresorg/cips/blob/master/cip-0025.md

Well if its important enough then go re listen

He didn't even take the time to read CIPs before deciding "nope, irrelevant"

I see, so Horizon is not parsing the JSON and rendering the pointers, I would guess.

@davesta did a great job explaining that

wasn't even aware of the spec, nor any of the things defined in it... was suprised to learn his explorer needed more than just showing simple images

Shit posting on x if I recall correctly.

Just for fun. 🤓

Used car sales?

No doubt, will just copy code and functionality from tokenscan.io... like he did with Horizon... funny how the design looks very similar to tokenscan huh?... dispenser pages, prettymuch everything... god forbid they create an original explorer and not copy others work 🤷️️️️️️

I'm not telling anyone here anything they don't already know but CIP25 is not a protocol spec. I agree it should be parsed and rendered, but I put it in the same bucket as rare pepe. There's no onchain data pointers (exists outside the protocol in the social realm) but any Counterparty explorer should try and render that content.

It seemed like the chinese bots were very upset about that the mint was not fair, maybe they cut off the op?

IMO thats a hardline view "not a protocol spec"... little known fact.. the first "enhanced asset info" spec was launched by Adam and team... but just included description and 48x48 icon... but "not protocol spect"

It Was of the most intelligent things said..

Yes, I agree its hardline, which is why I think Rare Pepe should be rendered despite not even existing onchain

https://github.com/jdogresorg/counterparty-classic-documentation/blob/master/Developers/Notes_and_Tutorials/enhanced_asset_info.md

the original "enhanced asset spec" from 2014... had to dig into my own personal "classic" repo... cuz its been scrubbed from the CP repos

So yes, I think the founders should endeaver to implement CIP25 in their explorer/wallet and a bunch of other formats that sort of came about through social consensus. It's kind of messy and I can understand why everything wasn't implemented on Day 1. They'll get there.

Heck there is stuff like OLGA Stamps and SRC721 Stamps that don't render on Tokenscan or Freewallet today despite having been implemented a year ago. But they appear on Horizon as we reached out to ensure that would be the case

Are there 2 mikes in space?

??

Mikeinspaces?

yup, I dont support stamps... they caused me a bunch of headaches.. happy to implement support, but need to be compensated for my time to do so (gasp, some will claim extortion)... But open to decoding OLGA format so they display on tokenscan.io 🤷️️️️️️ DM @jdogresorg if interested.

Yeah you're free to support whatever you like. I just don't see how that's materially different than the lack of support for CIP25 on Day 1.

CIP25 is clearly defined spec that many ppl use (hell, I wrote the thing and most of the formats over the years).... Stamps OLGA is a project specific format... that is the difference 🤷️️️️

Glad you got them working in Horizon... not interested in adding them to Tokenscan at this time.

Not on my horizon wallet it shows start block option that’s it. ?

Unless it’s been in the last day or so ?

It's not project specific. It's forked off of CIP 33. Any asset can use this method not just stamps. https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/Forum/blob/master/cip-0033.md

Why aren't you supporting CIP 33? How's that different than not supporting CIP 25?

Again I don't care. Support what you like. But its basically the exact situation Horizon is in. Except I'm sure they will be supporting CIP 25 shortly.

A lot of jdog got hub info shared in all chats for all kinds of reasons helping people
Hmm haven’t. Seen like hardly anyone else doing that has anyone noticed that ?!

I’ll double check I’m sending Halloween treats out now

Elon even trolling us now

wompt womp womp... Can't view CIP33 on your link... the dear leader deleted your link... https://i.gyazo.com/0bd0c1e57fb085c5d11f7e231d123924.png

Reason I am not supporting CIP33 is because it requires additional time to write code to lookup the image encoded data from the transaction, dump it to file, write that file to disk, etc... Not as simple as pulling a base64 encoded image from description (stamps) or interpreting a url format and loading a URL/content in the browser.... a bit more work.. and, my focus is elsewhere... Not really focused on CP much anymore other than to keep FreeWallet up and running... plus, no real demand for it from TokenScan/FreeWallet users... the opposite in fact, get more requests to add options to HIDE numerics than to add functionality to support them

I do think it is a cool encoding method, but not dedicating any time to adding support for it at this time.

Maybe once taproot suppport is added and support for encoding larger amounts of data cheaper via writing data to witness area.... will revisit adding support

Not trying to convince you as I do understand its a more complex decoding method. That being said, the reason Horizon is able to do it, is that we pointed them to our public API where they can just download the rendered images without having to do the decoding on their own. No different than an IMGUR pointer

cool, that is what would be needed to make it easier to integrate. If/when users start asking for OLGA support, might consider adding it.

So how many of your chinese stamp friends are the new devs

was stamps the laundering operation to fund these devs

The reality is a lot more dull than the conspiracies you've got running through your head. We have almost no connection to the Chinese SRC-20 community. Hey, I'd love some of that money they're making in minting and exchange fees. But no, I think Adam secured his own funding.

They owe kane more time i feel as if he was no where near finished as far as the discussion but keep @ him now that its not live

Doesn't feel genuine 🤷‍♂️

Especially after an abrupt exit

He def had more to say... it is unfortunate that things ended with him not being able to finish his thoughts... he was genuine and speaking from his heart about how some of these changes have had effect on ppls everyday lives... the "gentrification of the neighborhood" hit home

I honestly can't figure out how they got away with that so smoothly

Vector deleted my post.

👀

Shocker! Want to maintain control in that channel... allowing differing opinions can behard... notice despite all the drama today, not a single person was kicked or removed or muted

Silence the opposing viewpoint

I’ll ask the same question here. Am I at risk of leaving assets in dispensers and on FW at the moment? If not how come the other chat says that I am?

If you continue to use "FreeWallet 2.0" when it comes out, which only uses "Counterparty 2.0"... and you do not download "FreeWallet Classic", you have nothing to worry about... all your transactions will take place on "Counterparty 2.0" ledger using "Counterparty 2.0" APIs

What if I’m using the latest FW on my desktop at the moment?

Their stance is freewallet is unsafe to use

Currently FreeWallet is using "Counterparty 2.0" apis and data.... and the new releases will be called "FreeWallet 2.0" and "FreeWallet Classic" so it is abundantly clear what version your on, and what API your talking to

yep... haven't even put out any wallet updates that use anything but "Counterparty 2.0"... yet marked as unsafe on the counterparty.io site... the bias is real

I was muted also

Really bad

I said 3 true things to whatever and got muted for trolling

Freewallet is marked unsafe, all wallets run 2.0

And just use a different wallet

Your assets aren't "in" freewallet

Lol

That only has new functionality but nothing else

No shit. You know what I meant

OK well that's what it sounded like

Pls continue to feel free to ask any questions or concerns you have here 🙂

If your accepting their fud just use their stuff

Whatever is here asking for clarification... so dont think he is just buying FUD but trying to do his own research... understandable 🙂

I don’t think either camp has intentions to harm counterparrty. So just looking for all the angles on what’s happening.

I’m a dude but thanks.

If you have any more questions about FreeWallet and how to stay safe, pls feel free to ask in the FreeWallet channel at @freewallet_io

DOH.. sorry man...There is another Whatever i've interactted with who is a chick.. nothing personal.. muh bad

Username: Whoisit?

dunno... interact with so damn many ppl on a daily basis and over the 10 years, tough to keep them all straight 😛

Whoisit is female

It’s all stamps people

And they are ghey

You're off your rocker, I don't recognize any "stamps people" in that chat.

fake and ghey

more gaslighting u guys are easier to pick out then purple haired libs

Bill Clinton and Joe Looney make the exact same argument:

A look at all the profile pictures of them tells everything

these guys just keep lying lol

its really sad actually

We are going to bring in a bunch of random devs no one knows and force code updates that break what the community has been using for 10 years. Cool ?

Yup I did that. 😁
I'm diabolical. The puppet-master pulling all the strings.

Not saying u did that bud

Just saying that’s what happened

Imagine having a Pepe avatar and not even knowing what XCP is. Seeing a lot of interest brewing. It's our opportunity not to fumble.

Am I correct in understanding the following to be true?

10.x+ will continue to roll out by core devs. Jdog will provide a tool for users, proficient enough to do so, to perform certain actions cheaper/easier via an older version of counterparty. If/when 10.x+ accomplishes the roll out of features cheaper/easier than those currently referred to as lost, the tool provided by Jdog to interact with the older version of counterparty will not be needed. Concurrently through this timeline, Jdog will provide a tool to interact with the latest version of counterparty.

Close... will be providing FreeWallet 2.0 to interact with Counterparty 2.0... and FreeWallet Classic to interact with Counterparty Classic... the default for tokenscan.io, and the default wallet will be "FreeWallet 2.0"... users who are confused or want to stay on the "latest" version of Counterparty should use "FreeWalllet 2.0"..... Some advanced users may choose to use "FreeWallet Classic" in order to take advantage of cheaper MPMA sends, or use dispensers (tho be aware of the risks)... "FreeWallet Classic" is really just for advanced users who know what they are doing and the risks associated with it

The tokenscan.io site has been updated to display both "Counterparty 2.0" ledger (cp20.tokenscan.io) and the "Counterparty Classic" ledger (classic.tokenscan.io)... As well as easy links to switch between the ledgers and information on what ledger/software forks are (tokenscan.io/fork), how this fork occurred, and how this fork effects users. Heading to bed now to get some rest... will bust out the FreeWallet 2.0 and FreeWallet Classic builds in the morning 🙂

Updated - 2001 XCP available on verified dispensers

https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/1a5a362ea60b18d9e1c09658531b1f8b6ad21908baa9215780796bcd2c00f4dc -- 0.00013980 -- 283 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/2bf4630ce273ea136c7c44b7dee6fbc12654c2111fa8b8dbde0e982055fead36 -- 0.00014700 -- 88 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/dff8c851a0d38c7e4bc0ab6c4d281073620063865072e8c8943cf2ee564dbac8 -- 0.00014882 -- 143 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/d312f7220b820d395324cb271d41509fe3fa8aa9c8fbe27a7a5d68360e4b3909 -- 0.00016000 -- 999 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/408ccb4e52e50ea88d0458bb5821310d7c90dc7190e57e8d2530b5e153567d23 -- 0.00017600 -- 98 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/12e89fda64a19b2a71e4f16344f73be3c3ed89629eabc55566d020ed7fbbc5ce -- 0.00017650 -- 147 XCP
https://explorer.unspendablelabs.com/tx/a1ba19eeb7406f3fb989efbf956a9fbab26c3aee390cd8cd7a901b08b2c2717c -- 0.00018900 -- 243 XCP

🔥For larger amounts: There's a 5k XCP block currently available OTC at a good price (DM for quotes and details)

“This makes Counterparty nodes dramatically easier to deploy and shrinks the node storage requirements from 250GB to 45GB.”

This is a very tangible and clear response as to why origin functionality should be removed.

asset/METALICVAPOR (2021)

This happened to me quite a lot, and we've seen that it has happened to a lot of others here in chat and in many other group chats. I can recall this happening quite often. I'm willing to pay more (I'm not sure how much more it'll cost exactly, maybe ry anon can fill me in?) if I know it'll work everytime, because I ultimately pay less.

getting this when trying to do mpma send. Any thought on what the issue could be?

Have you ever sent btc to an xcp dispenser and had the dispenser closed before you got your coins... beat me to the block and took my funds! Fudis. Dispensers were a great concept but users lost funds. That makes it pointless

Have you ever been robbed from dispensers? Fuck man they were broken and users lost funds

Did that happen to you?

A year or 2 ago... not much but still burnt

Wrong chat, to stroke supreme leaders ego and have no opposing views please ask xcer for chat link

If there's only 1 asset left in the dispenser, you gotta make sure u set the fee to the current high, if u minted an src-20 with a lower than required fee, you could end up with not been successful

I used a high fee minting an src-20, multiple times, their tools said mint was live, yet it turned out it wasn't, lost funds, and fees weren't cheap back then

You're providing dangerous misinformation buddy. AKA trolling. Wrong chat for this.

Yeah, a bunch of noise to drown out any rational discussion of the matter at hand, which is dispenser origin functionality being added back. Adam gives a clear and concise reason why it’s harmful for Counterparty.

Take the vaccine

1. Never happenes

Imagine being against a positive change because you prefer tech that you use but is also severely flawed resulting in loss of users funds

So glad Adam is back to fix this outdated shit

This is MY counterparty

Guys is it safe to use dispensers?

Never really was SAFE

Well, correct you need to trust the seller. But apart from that?

Yeah more interested in a trustless approach for scaling purposes and onboarding purposes

Imagine pretending that we have fixed the positive changes with working alternatives whilst at the same time reducing user functionalities all in the name of user safety for an issue that isn't even an issue, whilst also creating a deadly fork that could end up with users been defrauded

And ignoring the community from day 1

Sounds cool, please go to fork chat so u can shine the new devs shoes

Imagine pretending that dispensers weren't a hack for day 1

Imagine being here for a few years and only now realizing funds could be lost

Imagine trolling in this chat while the fork chat mutes and bans users

Imagine being here for 10 years and seeing new faces claim this is their xcp

Imagine being here when Adam was a dev 8 years ago

So will they leave again?

If you remember so well

Imagine a scenario where 95 percent of wallets did the upgrade

But only a few outliers claim they want their loss of funds tech back

Bring back loss of funds!!

Imagine ninja not doing so, the same people who have been catered for with every decision over the rest of the community

Let's create these things so. People can lose funds with more pump and dumps

While we pretend to care about user losses

Imagine being fully vaxxed, putting in an order on dispensers to support the war in Ukraine only to have your transaction beaten to the block and the dispenser closed before your Ukraine funds clear

Sounds like a 2.0 issue

Oh so u don't know the problems with trust me dispensers eh

Aye

At the same time the shaver broke whilst shaving your beef curtains?

Trust me I wont close the dispenser

My anal beef curtains with a v8 hemi

All I heard was u been stuffed by 2.0 8 inch turbo max vibrate

Imagine onboarding people through lose your funds dispensers

12 inch

Girth

Dispensers can be phased out when we have working alternatives

Ahhh imagine u actually lost funds on dispenser and they weren't your little pet trust me onboarding bridge to crypto

Hey guys try xcp dispensers but make sure you get your order in with top priority before that dispenser closes in the block

Oh s*** you didn't know that Tech was trust me not trustless

The argument is so weak on your end that's crazy

Imagine on boarding people to src-20 to mint then the tools you use tells them mint open, only to find out it doesn't, then create loads of pump and dumps, when that's dead, let's turn counterparty into full pump and dump machine

It's actually nuts that dispensers lasted so long

Imagine using a wallet that didn't update to the most recent update and then still telling people to onboard

But claim to have the high ground

Dumb af

Good troll sir, your supreme leader has a pat on the back waiting for you

Don't you remember me from the 2018 xcp election

You weren't around though

And a 12 inch

I wonder if you actually understand the struggles

Xcp pet rock dispenser just opened up

Get your rocks before it closes in the next block

Oh you put an order in but the dispenser closed before your order hit the block

It's like buying weed from your dealer only to get back into the car and find out the bag you bought is empty

Imagine selling/on boarding stuff whilst there's a possibility to defraud users

Imagine advocating for the wallet that still hasn't updated

The points these new users make are weak

@pappyG45 thinks he's an OG cuz he's been here for 2 years

Pfsh

I think frw is on 2.0 currently, kek

https://youtu.be/xnAgB8Kvddk?si=2Hm3BXPL-v6OXDNf

Correct

2 versions now available.
Old version funds lost or new version tight ship

Not currently, although ur gash is dripping

Hope my kekcard is safe

Ahh yes, 2 versions are, ninja and horizon, my bad

Or maybe I get two of them now

Imagine on boarding people with tech that should be available in two weeks

Anyone want to buy lordkek 9.6 version?

1 bitcoin cash

Only taking a fork for a fork

For forksakes

Let's have a vote

If you're an advocate for the old Tech 9.6.xxx vote = fork ya

If you're an advocate for the new version 10.x vote = fork off

Fork off

You wanna go fork coffee

Go fork yourself

Devs of fork don't listen to vote outcomes

This is not a community driven project sir

So users should lose functionality which they rely on and use daily, so that a few note operators don’t have to rely on this component.

As I’ve said time and time again, dysfunctionality should not have been removed until better solutions or implemented, proven, and general agreement by the community Waiss that there is no longer a need for the features, has better alternatives were available.

Also, it is still possible to remove address indexers , and still keep the origin functionality. As the only thing that the origin functionality uses address index is for is to check if an address has any transaction history associated with it.

Using an electrum server (which I believe Adam is planning on doing any anyway once he removes address indexers) would allow for this simple transaction history check to continue to take place.

The viewpoint that users need to lose functionality in order to remove a component which Adam disagrees with , simply to save a bit of disk space, is a very simplistic view.

I disagree with this viewpoint , and feel this is trying to mislead the community into believing that this ‘origin’ functionality had to be removed, when that is not the case, and dispensers could continue to work perfectly fine checking for address history using another method (electrum server)🤷🏻‍♂️

I have not put out the new releases of FreeWallet yet, which address this issue, which is caused by the loss of the ability to send multiple memos in MPMA sends in counterparty 2.0.

I believe Adam and team fixed this issue after I pointed it out to them (though it required me being told I was mistaken and being blamed for not finding this issue earlier), and that MPMA sends with multiple memos should work again in the current version of counterparty 2.0. I have not verified that that is true, but will do so today, and ensure that MMA senses will continue to work in counterparty 2.0, however, they will continue to be more expensive than they have in the past, due to the P2 SH encoding method being depreciated in recent releases of counterparty 2.0.

TLDR, wait a few hours, and the new versions of FreeWallet will be released👍🏻

Trolls are getting excited

Nope, it hasn’t happened to me, but it has happened to other users before, and none of the updates in counterparty core prevent the ability for a dispenser operator to front run a dispenser user. This is why dispensers are generally good for low to medium value items, and when buying from a dispenser, one should always use a higher than high tx fee setting.

Imagining being so hyper focused on your viewpoint as the right way to do things that you’re willing to discredit thousands of users that use a Wallet and, they rely on, and simply answer that “ things will be better in the future, don’t worry we’ll fix things in the next release”

As I’ve said many times , you don’t remove functionality and break things until it is clear that better solutions are available, and general consensus within the community is that they no longer need the functionality that is being removed/lost 🤷🏻‍♂️

This was forwarded from years ago. I could spam chat all day with messages of people asking about why their MPMA send failed.

Hasn't happened to me either. Dispensers are great for community projects where you know the artist you are buying from. Obviously we are not going to replace Wall Street with dispensers, which is my ultimate vision for counterparty, but there is nothing wrong with how they are being used now, and they should continue to be fully supported until better alternatives are proven.

There are good articles out there that discuss these risks and how to avoid, is rare and I've never been effected, if your using an eth wallet, probs good idea to dyor about risks, such as signing untrustworthy links that can empty your wallet

The basis for your last fork was disk space. What you are proposing is not so simple. Plus, we want it to be easier for onboarding new wallets, exchanges, marketplaces, which this directly addresses.

Read git more commits in 3 months then 10 years

The strength of a project is in the GitHub

So we have moved the argument from the lost functionality on dispensers over to cases where users have had some problems in the past using MPMA… got it… moving the goal post again.

Users are free to use whatever version of counterparty they would like🤷🏻‍♂️

I thought you would’ve learned yesterday after all of the shouting and trying to villainize me , that the path forward was simply to address concerns in the community about the lost functionality and replace it.

It is unfortunate that the current court developers continue to take such a hard stance , and refuse to make compromises in the best interest of the community they claim to care about and be building changes for.🤷🏻‍♂️

Dude do you know the three Pinnacles of crypto

Trust me isn't one of them

heading out the door to my yoga class… I’ll be back in a little while to check the troll messages, and then get back to work on the new FreeWallet releases.

Trust me Tech is dead

I'm sure the grifters know, and we all must follow suit, we didn't have enough of src-20 pump and dumps, we need more

It's a dumb conversation when you need to trust the other counterparty it actually goes against the name of the project

Counterparty trust me is the new Fork

I think its been well discussed, that making better the features is a good thing, when trusted and tested and working, not nuking stuff that has worked for years and wait 2 weeks

Small group of people can trust each other and dominate the new chain

In other words you've never had loss of funds and knew the other counterparty cool

I’m addressing other concerns that have been brought up. I addressed you directly about the origin address issue.

Goal posts, gas lighting, trolling, 101

I have lost lots of funds, but not by an obscure issue that is preventable with dyor

By the way, it’s worth noting that no one in here is being censored or removed due to their conflicting viewpoints…. However, I continue to hear and see users being muted kicked and banned from the “other” counterparty channel simply for expressing viewpoints that the core developers disagree with.🤷🏻‍♂️

So let's keep the Obscure issue going strong

So I can swap a 10-cent memorabilia from some artist I actually know

Let's break it while we have no alternative

Yes let's stop it dead in its tracks before i get rekt again

so let’s keep getting outraged and screaming in this channel about a release which you believe is dead and has no future…. Makes total sense.🤷🏻‍♂️

The fact that you are here and so upset, trying to defend your viewpoint , seems to indicate that maybe there is some worries that this version of counterparty is not “dead”🤷🏻‍♂️

And so I can recommend counterparty in good conscious again

No you just captained this ship for too long with no major changes to the code while knowing people were vulnerable

This room has lost its way, feels like Trevor’s room back in the day

I’m seeing and learning a lot from you

Been here for 8 years

Maybe even before you

You stroking your corn?

You know the good old days when we used to be able to make bets on sports games

If anyone here has used the BET feature please stand up

Why yall not shouting in ninja chat, that's been operating 9.6 all this time lol

Because they will update in 2 weeks?

Humanity needs this.
To many fuggen retarded people. We need more actual retards...
This is Darwinism at work...
Fafo

Your being paid to be here.
Prove me wrong..

where u been? how much did the stamps people pay you to be here

We vote every ten minutes.

Stamps....lol.... dude ya dun know

I was betting on xcp bet feature in 2015

How old was u then?

U showed up like 2 days ago on my timeline mang

Been bout it since mint

Did u have male or female genitalia back then?

stamp sock accounts funny af

Hermi

astroturf

zero culture from this bro

Are you a trusted culture vro

Bro

probably a meth head

Crack

Because that's what you need to be an early adopter

Waiting for his next fix of pump And dumps, that easy money is addictive

So were you here when we were delisted from polinex

This is corny

yep will have to mute this guy if he doesnt stay on topic

Or were you here when we pumped to $100 on Julian's zcpcash.io?

Was you here when satoshi was conceived?

Topics of concern.
Old member who uses xcp since 2015 vs. New members last year

I'll check back later on the new users dilemma... wait isn't that an actual psychological philosophy

It's not old vs new... its big business vs small business and you got it

You win.. message recieved

I'll step off

its even worse its degen scum vs real culture

Time to claim 1 pat on back from fork chat, will await your next troll session

Respect. Iam off to yoga, cold shower, meditation, grass touching, sauna and then big brother donations

been here since 21 whats your addy

prove it

Lol

how much xcp u hold?

Which one you want?

Dont forget after that to beg and cry at the chinese for a second chance after the failed "fairmint"

Shits changing... ill check back in 6 months and see how it worked out

Take care bud, hopefully better vibes then

The wallet with lordkek, rarepepe, satoshicard, etc?

The wallet with 10k xcp

Or the wallet i was making bets from in 2015

Pfsh

The oldest and you gotta broadcast a certain message

Coz anyone can claim any wallet with words

If you guys were around a long time you would know who I am but I can broadcast you a message

Adam makes me wanna buy another 10k xcp at $10

All these updates in the last 9 months versus the last 6 years

we can agree on that

we like the new features

but not at the cost of the community

You few aren't the community

smooth transition

I agree

Not sure why you think it's a good point to keep trust me Tech live and well

😁

this chat says differently, maybe you forgot how the community voted for fees on numerics

did you vote?

were you here?

Releases in the last 3 weeks :
counterparty-core 10.4.3
counterparty-core 10.4.4
counterparty-core 10.4.5
counterparty-core 10.4.6
counterparty-core 10.4.7
counterparty-core 10.4.8
counterparty-core 10.5
counterparty-core 10.6
counterparty-core 10.6.1

This is what not properly testing your software before release looks like. Which is strange, because I thought we all heard that they had built an automated test system to make sure releases were stable... I wonder what they are testing in their automated tests 🤷️️️️️️😂️️️️️️

No I did not vote on numerics

right so you really havent been involved

thanks for confirming

But did you vote on the foundation appointments

Oh which Foundation?

there is no foundation

All the ones that predate you being here

but this isnt a dick measuring contest fun to see the forked stamped guys in here tho

This is literally your pet project where you can use trusted dispensers

Trust me I won't close it before you get it

Okay I'm off to yoga and praying to the sun gods

Don't forget to wipe

You’re aware of the new room?

Front to back or back to front

No

Is there one

Omg

Lol

Yes with core devs

These guys are so 9.6xxx

Link?

did you guys set this all up

Fork chat, xcer share link lol

pathetic lol

they are getting desperate

Grand conspiracy got to love dank weed

you can do a search for the new chat link if you like

Dm since they are deleting

Who is they?

the forked chat muted or deleted all of the people asking questions of them forked devs

Okay see you few people who want to trust each other

Didn't realize this was a dead or dying room

feel free to go to the fork room

See you when the next pump and dump Is dead

Pretty pathetic to be deleting a room where the CP core devs are and not letting a member since inception know about it lol

Beta

Super beta

I still see VC is in here 🤣 cause they all know this is the consensus room

Leaving without broadcasting a message?

xcer sock account lol

I'll broadcast a message but I am going to leave so maybe DM me the message you'd like me to broadcast

maybe paid medici

lol

You guys are so new you don't know who you're talking to

broadcast - eat a bag of dicks

But ignorance is bliss and I'm okay with it

This

And then will you

Or you going to John mccaffey me

sure I own the asset

lmao

well BAGOFDICKS to be clear

So one person who was here 10 years ago compared to someone who's been here every day over last 4 years, your right, we don't know you, now prove your claims

https://tokenscan.io/fork

to be clear "counterparty 2.0" is the fork

Mimic

2 generally is after 1 kek

I thought it was weird they kept wanting to call it that

Clear

Coz they know, can only resort to gas lighting community, hence numeric subassets

like who asked for that?

Chicks with dicks

stamps people even that retarded? think it was they were pissed they lost the vote on fees

or dudes who cut theirs off

lol

That 2 lol

And you tell other people to stay on topic. This project is cooked.

I don't see any broadcasts, takes time asking your paymasters to do things aye

This is so comical and meaningless

Better informing users unlike ninja no?

You're starting to get it it?

let that sink in

wow rare pepe admin just muted me for bringing up the fork

😄

All this over 2 tx

This is a masterclass on how to lose as much power as fast as possible

its true Adam really fumbled the ball on the 2 yard line

Probably Shawn

Nah think it was Joe

Oh hes admin

looks like softwar

wow whats the problem

sorry if i caused that

They only want to troll in here, their feelings must be hurt that some users dare speak out

I was just letting people know about the fork

then I got muted

When did it happen

I have to reconfigure a little after learning Mysterious Pathetic is Joe.Lonney

And whats the difference

Was a fair comment/question

bugs vs people

kill the bugs

which version classic or the fork? 😄

Such a nasty comment

imagine being that triggered

I dont get it, but doesn't seem great. Why would they shut down conversation? Is it a divide like the bch fork

I read the lib thing. Looney is just that, Looney. At least when it comes to JDog

split personalities maybe...

FYI, we're going to make another small protocol release soon! This one will focus on fixing additional bugs in the UTXO support and fairminting functionality that have been discovered since their launch.

I don't think this has been said enough—_please use these features at your own risk_! These features should be considered *alpha* quality. They were just released, and they're both *super* powerful. We've already seen a ton of usage for them, but also some serious bugs and footguns. You can see the full roadmap for the next release here: https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/milestone/44 Comments + review are more than welcome ofc!

another hot fix

wow

dont make us bother Mike

cause I will haha

just fyi its RPBANHAMMER lol

Yh I went to type that after, but had no time, they were too quick

I asked an unaskable question

You guys are free to have your fork chat in your own group, this chat is for rare pepes

We don't talk in 2.0 sir

Off to touch grass, I'm sorry for deeply offending the chicks with dicks, have a nice day

Frogs eat bugs

I’m glad to hear that you’ve been involved with counterparty as long as I have… and have used some of the features that are no longer in use…. However, the length of time that you have been involved with counterparty, how big your bags are, or what features you’re used in the past, really seem to me like a who’s got the biggest dick bragging competition, and doesn’t give your opinion any more value than users who arrived in the past few years and came to rely on features which have been removed in the latest release of counterparty 2.0.

I understand we are in a stressful time right now, but myself and other members of the community did not create the ledger for that has been going on for 3+ weeks, and have worked for over the last week to try to find a compromise, which allows everyone to move forward on a unified ledger, by simply restoring functionality, which was lost, and which we continue to hear from many members in the community that they have come to rely on.

Rather than continuing to talk about your history and how big your bags are , perhaps take a larger view of the entire community than just those who have been here since the beginning, and realize that we are all members of the counterparty community, and all of our viewpoints matter and should be heard with respect, regardless of if we agree with them or not🤷🏻‍♂️

The link to the chat is provided in here in the last week at least three separate times and anyone can search for it. But you are correct we have been deleting the repeated spamming of the link in this channel, just as we would delete the repeated link spamming of any other group that was being disruptive and repeatedly posting the same content🤷🏻‍♂️

No xcer, all of this over months of ignoring the community and forcing changes, which many disagree with… your argument could very easily be flipped around on you, all this drama simply because core devs don’t wanna add back a simple bit of functionality which the community has come to rely on in the past few years🤷🏻‍♂️

Time will tell who had the correct viewpoint, and it will not be determined by which version has the most transactions or money on it🤷🏻‍♂️

Some things are more important than pumping your bags, and ignoring viewpoints, which you disagree with😘

I remember what happened to Coke 2.0

Typical…. Rush out releases with new features before doing thorough testing, allowing the community to lose funds, and do their quality assurance testing for them🤷🏻‍♂️

10 software releases in the past couple weeks, to those with a software development history it is clear proper testing is not done, as most of these releases are bug fixes, which should’ve been found if proper testing was done.

To those who are not in software development, lots of code commits and software releases can look like a good thing.

If counterparty 2.0 is to be taken seriously, perhaps they should slow down and do proper testing before removing features that users continue to use, and pushing out half baked code full of bugs.

Quantity != Quality

I can’t think of many respectable software projects that put out 10 releases in two weeks.🤷🏻‍♂️

Pretty funny, even though I’m a rare Pepe scientist, and I’ve taken no actions in the rare Pepe chat discussing this fork or anything controversial….. apparently my administrator permissions were removed as well without any discussion.

Not that I’m too upset about it, I’m sure the remaining administrators and moderators will do a great job of maintaining that channel…. But just goes to show you that someone (gee I wonder who it could be) is greatly triggered by what is going on.

The hilarious thing is I still run and maintain @pepecardbot which is used for the past 5+ years as a way to review rare Pepe cards.

I guess I’m good enough for them to continue using the services I provide, at no cost, but not worthy enough of having an explanation for why my administrator powers were removed.

Again, not really upset about it…. Just highlighting how petty some people can be 🤣

Rushed development, centralization risks, a dismissive attitude toward legacy users, and a lack of robust user education are all making it harder to trust the 2.0 team, even though I appreciate the tools they’re trying to bring forward. The way they’re pushing these updates tells a sad story.

I’m also concerned about the focus on 'which wallet has more money'—does this reflect the real priorities and aims of the group? Is the goal still to serve the community, or is it shifting toward satisfying investor interests? Plus, silencing critical voices, like banning users and ending Kane’s voice in discussions, seems revealing. Why are they so quick to silence feedback?

1. The 2.0 team’s association with venture capital raises concerns about centralization and influence from investors. Is there a risk that investor interests could be prioritized over the community’s needs, potentially compromising Counterparty’s ethos of decentralization?

2. Why hasn’t there been any formal approach to governance, like a community voting mechanism or DAO? If this platform is truly for the community, shouldn’t the users have a say in these big decisions?

You’re ignoring point 1 that they think is an issue

so much for permissionless

wen OFAC compliance

maybe kyc rules too

Wrong, that is Adam’s interpretation of the origin functionality because he doesn’t really understand how it operated.

You can only open up a dispenser on a brand new / empty address with no transaction history…. Hence not other people’s addresses.

In the past, you used to be able to open up a dispenser on an address with no XCP history, but counterparty was updated last year to check for both counterparty transactions and bitcoin transactions to ensure that when opening a dispenser on a new address, it had never been used before by anyone.

So the whole narrative that this is a security issue that is resolved and stops people from being able to open up dispensers on other people’s addresses is once again Adam word salad and false .

1000% 🔥🔥

I do believe xcer has a dispenser on a satoshi address lol

by the way, I gotta say you’re really good at just repeating the dear leaders points… and I’m enjoying debunking them very easily. 🤷🏻‍♂️