It could be that he opened up that dispenser before the update last year, which required that dispensers not have any XCP or BTC history… the functionality that was recently disabled by counterparty, is the functionality that insured that there was absolutely no transaction history on a dispenser address BTC or XCP

How big of a footprint is the ord indexing? Fednode footprint already pretty big with having to store the entire btc blockchain and addrindexrs… while I’m supportive of collaboration, not sure it is worth it if it increeases the difficulty/cost of running a node…. Need to be convinced that :

A) brings great value to the CP beyond some simple tweaks and

b) that the fednode stack will not grow become risky harder/larger to maintain… (think POW ETH nodes… normies can’t run them, they require HUGE amount of disk space and CPU)

IMO It is important that anyone can stand up a cp fednode on a relatively normal computer with a couple terabytes of disk space

As the guy who runs most of the fednode servers, I am aware of what a pain keeping the fednode up/active can be… counterblock stopping parsing, addrindexrs index becoming corrupted and needing a reparse, counterwallet always needing restarted, etc.. adding yet another component to maintain (especially one with a large disk footprint and high cpu processing costs) is something I am apprehensive to do.

I like the idea of collaborating with ordinals to allow some sort of interoperability … but, I am not sold on the fact that we should bloat the default fednode install to run ordinals index… at least not in the default install… perhaps a new “ordinals” install type is more appropriate, so only those who want to run ordinals index have to.

Can you clarify exactly what benefits we get by running ordinals indexer in fednode and how/why that is better than just tweaking CP a bit to handle the envelope creation/destruction method you were describing?

I have not played with ordinals much yet, so pls forgive my ignorance

I’m honestly hesitant to share my opinions or questions in the other group because there’s a real fear of being banned or trolled. I’m also not interested in the whole 'who’s got the bigger wallet' competition—that’s not what Counterparty should be about.

That’s why I’m only bringing this up here, hoping for genuine answers to genuine questions.

In regards to this, I forwarded one of your arguments against yourself

Earlier you said disk space is not so important, but now 40+ nodes are up and running vs what we had last year

Used my own arguments against me? Because addrindexrs has a large footprint? As I already said, it can easily be replaced by running electrum servers (in fact, Juan has already proven this and runs an electrum replacement)…. I fail to see the argument being made here.

Functionality was still lost, and could be restored, without the need to keep addrindexrs 🤷🏻‍♂️

But the need to add and do other new shit

Dispensers still function, they just became more expensive to use

So the removed functionality argument is weak

@c0rnh0li0, I’d really appreciate it if you could share my genuine questions in the other group. You seem to have some standing there and can ask without the same risk of being banned or trolled. I realize these questions might be uncomfortable to answer, but they’re important.

Making it much easier to run a node is worth it

why would u change the way weve done it for 10 years for no reason other than to be spiteful

Check Adams’s history n plans on GitHub bro…. Using electrum n integrating its dependency into CP is already on the roadmap.

My point is the functionality did not need to be removed now, address indexers could be removed, and replaced with electrum (which Adam plans on doing anyway) and dispensers could continue to operate the ‘origin’ functionality.

The choice to remove dysfunctionality was Adam’s decision and not a necessity

This is wrong

we are moving to atomic swaps... literally no need to fuk with anything that was working. wasted energy for what?

Read above… not a weak argument🤷🏻‍♂️

The end function still exists to open a dispenser on an empty address. You can daisy chain your transactions and get it confirmed in one block even.

Personally, I would prefer that all components that counterparty uses be installed in the node, but if he wants to rely on an external service like electrum servers, which is his plan, that is his right….. however that can be done without losing dispenser ‘origin’ functionality….. imo the argument for removing it is a weak argument

So 3 txs instead of one…. More expensive, n time consuming…. But perfectly fine with u… got it. Thx for sharing your viewpoint

I mean, we’ve made our requests very clear.

Restore functions as they were to the 2.0

If this is done, we become one again.

If not, well FAFO.

🤷‍♂️

All this has been talked to death, if core was going to make changes n add functionality back, they would have….

Can still get it done in one block, no time lost

If Adam was a true leader he would do what is right and humble himself to the real community but if not then hes of no use

There’s like a dozen of your q team here and JDog

Funniest thing of this all is none of you are going to use 9.6 and it’s just going to cause Jdog lots of problems

3times more expensive tho 🤷🏻‍♂️

Good job helping Jdog guys, you really have his back

Good way to phase out a security vulnerability

Brilliant actually

caused me a lot of problems? Not really…. Other than the reputational credit that has been sacrificed in order of standing up for what I believe in….. which is that this should remain a decentralized community where the users have a voice… I won’t lose much else…. And I made peace with that a long time ago.🤷🏻‍♂️

Some things are more important than being right or being seen as a hero in everyone’s eyes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

we stand on truth and consensus from the community not boot licking degens

Says the person who seems to judge others only by the size of their wallet. I expected answers from you that matched the level of my questions, which were genuine and asked with real awareness. Instead, this was your only response—pretty disrespectful.

many of us putting together nodes for 9.6 too

🤣🤣🤣New Coke was the unofficial name of a reformulation of the soft drink Coca-Cola, introduced by the Coca-Cola Company in April 1985. It was renamed Coke II in 1990, and discontinued in July 2002

Classic FTW

You have a very loud voice

If you were so worried about X, you should of helped solve X

I have to go now - I’ll check back in on this later on

Pritty sad really, and to mute me for asking if the ban was warranted lol

Know your clitorus?

did you just assume my gender

And once again it’s worth repeating that all of this drama could very easily be solved by the core devs, either restoring origin dispenser, functionality or implementing replay protection, so that the transactions on counterparty classic do not affect their new version of counterparty 2.0….. that would allow them very easily to march forward with their features and their ledger and their community, and avoid all this drama.

They are the ones who made the changes that caused the ledger fork , yet they refuse to claim responsibility, listen to the community, or make changes which can end all of the confusion and frustration by many.

Users can see the core dev‘s actions and my actions and formed their own opinions.

I stand behind my entire history with counterparty, and provide a way for users who are interested to view the history

j-dog.net/archive

Maybe they are on the Epstein list...
Diddy maybe?
Something fuggen wreaks..

Did somebody say Epstein?

Crystal

Fuggen planned.

Voters.....

👀

Also need to add there " big-bag wallet balls" for the woman on right . The more income = the more rights .

If you feel the need to silence those with whom you disagree, 👀

You reveal much about the validity of your position.

King of counterparty 🤔

So the latest versions of counterparty will continue to roll out, and Jdog will provide tools to interact with two versions of counterparty. Will there be a guide to help users accomplish what they want using older versions of counterparty while not affecting what they don’t want affected on the newest versions of counterparty? Not that I will be doing any of this, just wondering.

1361 members, 209 online here
ratio the new channel?

Until replay protection is enabled, actions done on either Counterparty 2.0 or Counterparty Classic will effect both ledgers, unfortunately.... Best to stick on Counterparty 2.0 if you dont want to have any issues, or if you use Counterparty Classic, and want to be "safe" until replay protection is enabled... avoid using dispensers on Classic.

In reality what’s going to happen is people will just stop using these products

I for one did not like the idea of using a different explorer, xchain has been my go to source and out of my loyalty for all that you did, I never planned to switch

There’s nothing to switch to

Still lol

You yourself said you’re not doing any transactions lol

Are you waiting for a new product to use?

Nope. Will use fw eventually

It's big waves we wait for calmer waters

Ppl can continue to use "FreeWallet 2.0" to safely transact on "Counterparty 2.0" and completely ignore the "Counterparty Classic" version/ledger... So, I highly doubt people will just entirely stop using FreeWallet / Tokenscan. My primary focus is on building xchain platform, but I'll still be around and maintaining "FreeWallet 2.0" so users can continue to use a wallet they know and trust to transaction on "Counterparty 2.0".... The community is a lot bigger than just the voices here on telegram.

I suggest we avoid sinking to the level of trolls. Instead, let’s keep the focus on fundamental questions and important decisions, as some people from both sides have started to do today. Just putting it out there , bro ! ;)

Best if ppl dont take stuff personally and just focus on the technical issues and difference... makes communication much easier 🙂

My questions are still have not answers btw. Would like to see some answers , cos on those answers will be building some trust also ;)

I think the pressure valve had a good release. Things already settling down

I think 1.) was addressed by Adam... sec digging for msg... will forward

Which is fine but Core Devs have a conflict of interest against current tooling that supports an overwhelming majority of the community. So intentionally making things harder for competing wallets banning other devs does not seem in the best interest of the community.

Will UL ask the current VC's if they are ok being named in the interest of transparency? You can at least ask

So there are two different potential conflicts of interest that I (Adam) see. The first is the possibility of supporting Unspendable Labs' business over the interests of the community (e.g. Horizon Wallet + Explorer over other wallets and explorers). The second is that the entities funding the company Unspendable Labs could push the protocol development in a way that favors their own interests.

The second question is easy to answer: the existing funding for UL comes 100% from (1) myself, (2) the Bitcoin Frontier Fund (who have made their investment public), and (3) close friends and family (whose names I won't disclose)

The first question is harder to answer. Yes, there's a potential conflict of interest. It's possible that I personally could push to change the protocol in a way that favors the UL business. That's possible in any case where someone who leads development of a community project also runs a business that makes use of that project. All I can really say here that UL and I are much more incentivized to make Counterparty successful than to increase UL's short-term revenue. That's why 100% of Counterparty development is done out in the open, including all issue tracking and prioritization, and why Horizon Wallet is fully open-source.

Did any of their new admins / devs reveal themselves

Also good question .

Why wouldn’t they? The previous ones did

It would have been best if operative-people from both sides got into a private channel and sorted it out so that a fork could be avoided

There’s still time? Or is it too late for that?

Too late fork has been going

Not much to discuss unfortunately, the core devs viewpoint has never shifted, not once, from their viewpoint is correct, even in the face of a ledger fork, community chaos, and the option to resolve all of this by restoring some functionality. If there was any sign of compromise by core devs, I would tend to agree, but I have seen none of that through all of the past 3 weeks. 🤷️️️️️️

Maybe it’s never too late. I don’t understand coding but I do understand that all of you are fab people and it will be to cp’s benefit for all to be on the same page. I’m just someone who has collected some jpegs here over the years and I’d love to see the community continue to thrive. New features old features don’t matter much in the long run as long as the community stays united and healthy. Sorry if it sounds sermonizing but I think the ugly public chat is not doing much good, message to both sides, again: see if u guys can get into a private channel and talk it out

past is past. Right now the core team IMHO should really focus on cleaning the current issues.
Then set a robust test procedures and protocol before releasing new features

@yodark thanks for the comment. I also think that v10.4.0 was way too big of a release. :/ we've introduced too many bugs, and along with a massive spike in number of users + transactions, that's caused problems for long-time users who have very reasonable expectations of stability for Counterparty. the reason we made it so big was specifically to minimize regressions in functionality. we also weren't able to test sufficienty well on testnet because it's been under attack for a while. we absolutely could have done better though. we spent nine months preparing for adding the first new features. unfortunately that wasn't enough. if you look at our roadmap, we're very much focusing on bugfixes and testing going forward.

Post office horizon scandal, wounder why they chose horizon

Forwarding message from the "other" channel... just for reference

agree, not much good has come from all the screaming and accusation slinging on both sides. Open to a private channel, if invited by core devs who are willing to be open to compromise... otherwise, not much point, all the compromise thus far has been on "our" side, losing functionality the users continue to desire (dispenser origin functionality).... I appreciate your viewpoint 🙂

for reference these are the clowns funding the new fork of 2.0... stacks, runes, staking lol

Btw , the XCP is still needed for creating fairmints, etc ?

for creating the asset yes

You may need to Google post office horizon scandal to get the reference

But horizon and postofficeparty are a great partnership

@DefinitelyN0tMe the whole reason I created this channel was to avoid the BS from the old one. obviously unity = good, but please don't forward any more BS from J-Dog here

FYI.. I knew this would be their viewpoint, which is why a private channel is not possible. They only see their viewpoint and everyone else objecting is just wrong and causing trouble 🤷️️️️️️

I appreciate you trying to bridge the divide and be a voice of reason, but as you can see, it requires both sides to engage in good faith... which IMO is not possible with the current situation.

sad

Since when is electrum no middleware?

it is, and having CP depend on a 3rd party service/component NOT included in the default CP install is IMO, not a good idea.... addrindexrs is not ideal, but it is at least installed in the stack when counterparty is installed... perhaps they will add electrum into the stack in the future... but AFAIK, from conversations i've seen, the plan is to just have core run some electrum servers and depend on those always being up/available for CP to interact with 🤷️️️️️️

I’m playin with electrs.

Works fine, and decoupling it from core makes sense. It can be kept as an interface though, like mempool does

https://mempool.space/docs/faq#address-lookup-issues

Spoke too early 😆. Looking back at the core code the integration with addrindrs is already implemented like an interface. It used to be indexd.

The same could be done with electrs I think

Now they cheer to have no middleware like cp2mysql (tho addrindexrs is still not killed yet not sure?) But why would they contradict themselve and add middleware later back?

dispensers take 5 blocks to close

he obvi hasnt been around that much

as Shaban points out, the "middleware" does stuff that the native CP API does not do, like calculate market/asset prices based off past trading/order/dispenser history... and does not even take into account all the "index" optimizations in cp2mysql.... Mysql / MariaDB with indexed data is WAY faster than postgres... sure you CAN run using just the CP API, but it is not very efficient, and you have to spin up many nodes to support queries under load... when you COULD just put all that data into an efficient database (exactly what cp2mysql does)..... Way back in the early days, there was an explorer run by the same guy who built/runs etherscan.io .... He queried the CP database directly, and complained all the time about how inefficient the database was... when I decided to build xchain, I had to build counterparty2mysql to pull the data from CP into an efficient database... Sure optimizations have been made to the database in the latest versions of counterparty 2.0.... but they still dont' have indexed addresses/assets/transactions, which means their indexes are nowhere near as fast as numeric index lookups.

They also contradicted themselves when they said that no one should ever use/trust bootstraps... that downloading bootstraps of the ledger was bad form (when CP was doing it for many many years)... they touted their kickstart version as the best way to parse the full ledger super fast and no one would need to use a bootstrap anymore... tho, come release time, low and behold, back to downloading/using bootstrap versions of the ledger 🤷️️️️️️ Tough to keep track of their viewpoints as they are constantly shifting and contradicting former viewpoints.

Not a good look

When it comes to Counterparty, I’d rather be right than rich. It means more.

lol id rather not have to sign up for second job to pay rent

but here we are...

so rn if we have a dispenser that was put up before the fork and i decide to close it, what heppens on classic and V2 ?

closing dispensers via source or origin should work the same between both versions... AFAIK only functionality related to dispensers and origin that was removed was the ability to OPEN dispensers on new/empty addresses from origin address

https://x.com/srcpad_pro/status/1851692683418374468

good way to alienate a community... maybe thats the goal

Proof of stake

OK I havent read up in 3000 messages- TLDR? people still fighting and bugs still being worked out, correct?

Nice art
Is it yours?

learn a little about the first Counterparty user created token, TEST

https://x.com/davesta_xcp/status/1851792914789339555

Thanks for posting this awesome read!

https://x.com/FreeWallet/status/1851850642484048104

https://github.com/jdogresorg/freewallet-desktop/releases/tag/v2.0.0

LOL.
it doesnt matter how many TX honestly,
if your dispenser is opened with one TX and you paid less fess- as i buyer i dont give a F*CK.
ALL I WANT as a buyer is to buy asset safe. thats it.
so basically your "functionality" has to be eliminated asap because you probably have no idea how much money people lost using your "great" "functionalities". or do you?
has anyone here have at least a slightest idea of the loss sizes?

so shut the F up and let others do the job that you was bad at.

i have same fear on this group and i know i will be muted for having another opinion

DO NOT INSTALL this crap.
nobody tested or audited it.

never ever install apps that was given by a single person and wasnt tested/audited by official team or a group off people that you trust. nobody granted its safe to use.

ok so now question.
how does dispenser opening in one tx helps me as a buyer????

nobody here are right.
freewallet has functionalities but never works without bugs.
horizon do not have functionalities at all.

so basically nobody here is right. this going to take long time and when you all finish CP will be worthless. good luck

This group is surrounded by Jdog friends and nobody can have another opinion.
i am reading what you wright and most of the shit told here is a total lie.

people. never trust- verify.
use open source. if someone offers you on-ramp - tell them to f*ck off

all the mods on this group are mfers who do not have any common sense or normal principles of live. NONE of the mods here. all of them cant even do the right thing!

i texted EVERY moderator saying that someone on this chat is accusing me of the crime

they offered me to defend myself 😀😀😀

YES you heard it right. they offered me to find evidence and show it lol. like i have nothing else to do.
what a fucking dumb way of thinking!

in short words: accusations without a proof should never reached day light at all, and i shouldnt be defending myself now. but this is so difficult to understand that none of dozen moderators can.
What is that mean? it means two options:
1. group ran by criminals.
2. crimes against their "enemies" are allowed

next time if someone think they can "do tests" on mainchain buying 1xcp sizes from my dispenser and later force me to "refund" on congested network and to pay fees from my pocket- they can go fuck themself.
i am not a test rat. any complain they can address to tools creator.
i do not owe anyone a cent.
hope we are clear and hope nobody will be in need of me.

IF any error will ever happen in the future, first ill teach them to admit whoes error was that, and ONLY after that i will "refund" them something and fees will be on them or someone who are responsible for that to happen. i as a seller use same tools, same explorers, same wallets- i do not have an edge. i cant make something not to work what they might think i can. so basically all complains has to be addressed to the providers of services they have used.

shorter: JDOG is the one to blame. and def not me.
but this mfer let people to accuse me while while i was muted on the chat by mods because i was the first to address the issue
they painted skamer out of me, just because i dont like their work.

i told many times and i will repeat.
FW is worst wallet i have ever used.
nobody listened to what users said and updates were full of bugs.

also Jdog frontrun pepecash order to buy RARE PEPE a year ago. so basically he "cheated" his people. i have evidence, its on blockchain (last rarepepe trade at 1m pepecash)

Hey jdog, for that rarepepe front run i can tell you one thing : F*CK YOU piece of shit!

developer used the advantage he knew to rug his people. shouldnt you been "developing" at that time?
who aksked you to disturb the markets?

and also he asked for a bribe from stamps lol. i mean.. isnt that a crime ? or bribing is okay nowaydays?
less such devs the better

now you can feel free to mute me again and after an hour start crying that on the other chat devs muting you. you do the same. all the time

fool! they didnt even knew they was buying from me 🤣 because they came to the chat and asked where they bought from.
so HOW could they have been trusting me you mfer?
they were trusting TOOLS, WALLET and services that they use to work and give them what was been said ON THOSE TOOLS/WALLETS to be given. does your little stinky head understands that???
They were trusting the writings on their screen! it was not otc trade you dumb ass

they never admited that this is error by the Dev. not seller. not buyer. devs throw updates without audit/testing - people get pissed. and then they blame buyer or seller but not themself. not the devs.

this message is on the chat just because he is jdog friend?

and you dear to say that on the other CP chat they censor you??

who let this weasel to talk to me like this?

WHERE IS A PROOF that should be in grown up communities?
or you find this ok? answer "thats ok" and i promise today everything you will see on mempool will be mods names with THIEF word near.

i can play your game f**kers- challenge me.

EVERY mod on this group can not be trusted. and they know why. i talked to each of them and none of them passed the test. they are rats

i blocked them all as i do with scammers. and told them to F off.

No

lol my last message was auto-deleted where i have said important things. havent used any bad words but was mainly writing about devs and trust. what word was used for the message written prior to this to get deleted? can that message be reposted?

funny thing, thats bitcoin. you cant censor ME on bitcoin. try mute, block or do what ever you want. if i will find in need to say something i will broadcast a message for you on chain. simple as that. nobody is afraid of your bans.

this

here

see the time i posted the issue about dispensers on FW and was called a hater and muted

and now see when Niftyboss posted his message about missing tx and issues. a week ago

if not the mute. i have saved some people in that week. GOOD JOB

check the date and time

on these posts.

i was first to WARN.

so basically from HERO to THIEF and all done by great mods.

such a nice painting you painted out of me.

i do more transactions than all mods combined so it is normal that i noticed the first. instead of listening to what i say they took it as "freewallet" hate because everybody should love it , even when people lose money using it.

damn. such a large last post was deleted where i offered voting and said all reasons of why people opinion should be cared. such a valid post got deleted! can anybody bring it back?
it was prior to this message.

another "auto delete" "rate limited" "human banning" bullshit. only this message auto deleting makes me sick. i wrote all the points of why none of devs where right on CP2.0 and gave my advices of voting implementations and of why WE USERS has to be cared too.

unspendable ARE not right demanding migration with the offer of crapy wallet that doesnt even have basic bitcoin functions or graphics thats very important to CP users. not even talking about missing of 80% CP functionality.

jdog side are not right thinking that wallet that gives most of the functions but making errors when functioning are OK- its not ok. Having all functions are brilliant, but its not brilliant when those functions dont work or needs high level understanding of what to do.

right move was to ask us: users

you made this to be your "revenge" playground and now all the users suffer.

omg again..

edited by adding a few words and last message where i said of why horizon and FW are bad and etc got deleted lol

Yeah, I was reading that

nevermind...

Anyways, all of this over $0.40 savings to open a dispenser

I have personally helped recover well into 5-figures worth of BTC for individuals

yes. nobody needs this mess. next time dear devs please ask users.
we use CP not like you, and we know better how to do.

Mostly noobs who will never use Counterparty again afterwards

YES

my deleted message had sayings:
we dont need wallet like horizon without functions thats for sure

Now JDog is opening the door to a big new scam

To save a handful of folk $0.40

for jdog: if wallet has functions.
it is important of what user experience is when using those functions

for example: i dont care if the wallet has dispenser function if i can be rugged using it

am i taking it as function? i dont really

people used as there was nothing better to use.

if money lost while using CP wallets were spent to develop new wallet/marketplace we could have hired magic eden guys and had bulletproof exchange of goods today.

So much money and time lost

And confidence from newcomers

yes. years passes. we are same guys lol. new members we can count on fingers

question is, why nobody of devs and their friends who speak on the chat use the network?

i dont see any of you to do something on chain, thats all transparent if you forgot.
so if we migrated to V2 isnt XCP suppose to be booming?

and all people clicking mouses?

why devs themself dont try horizon, or fw supporters try FW?

I would like to decide on the timing. I see that the development team has limited the users, but they themselves are stretching out the pleasure for several weeks.

its 🩸 bleeding...

this is the result of 10 years banning of all the messengers

CounterWallet, servers are down… some issue related to reorg and parsing the dispenser closes properly… Javier looking into it and it should be fixed by Monday

there were people who told issues and were banned for the hate.
issues were not fixed.
and we are here today where we are

Remember CounterWallet?

someone just decided to work, and only later found out the full load...

Dispensers killed that too

Talk about loss of functionality

counterwallet had one function that none of other wallets have or at least i dont know to have. for example as far as i remember counterwallet was the only one to show what ownership rights your address hold. take my main addy, it has at least 3, and there is no way to see that on wallets we use today. basically i have to know that.
but again devs didnt noticed this because they dont use their own wallets or dont use network, they just talk.

It worked on mobile too

Freewallet censored me initially while trying to create CCSATOSHI. Counterwallet allowed it.

$0.40

FW is blocking real human interaction- there is 0% it will survive with this "function".
000000%
how rate limiting people helps us to achieve popularity?
when said devs dont use the wallet themself i mean it, because there is no chance to work on it, its is designed so you can click on it just a few times, if you click more than few times you become a robot/bot.
show me a single other wallet that would "rate limit" me while using bitcoin.
the only limit is of how much btc i have. that should be the only limit of how many times i can interact.

can someone from FW supporters can record while they use their free wallet. of how to open 10 dispensers with a normal phase and human work flow and not to get rate limited? or lets say 5 dispensers.
i mean TRY!

you would have to take pauses. that kills time. time is money.
it affects of how scalable it is.
nobody can work fast, i have to slow down my clicking to meet the jdogs "human sience"

A similar calm before the storm was observed during the platform update in the fall of 2020. A couple of months before the NFT mainstream and Bitcoin's ATH

again deleted lol...
i copied it so ill repost

i should not be limited as long as i have bitcoin to pay network fees. bitcoin is fair network not without the reason. and it doesnt need your "skills" of understanding humans here. or maybe you became a doctor.

btw if you think your servers are too much for my 10 clicks to handle then may i ask on what server this billions worth network is "secured"?
on 50$ amazon?
or laptop?
thats 10 clicks! im not asking much.
there is no action on the network at all and you stop me from bringing it.

Volatility claustrophobia

FYI looks like the anti-spam bot is the one deleting some of ur messages🤷🏻‍♂️

yeah you took stamps as spam too when knowing they paid network fees.

your understanding of what is spam is false. so no wonder you have same settings here

the only time i found to write this, at when you sleep, so i could tell it all with out mute.

Got it, the bot that has been working in here for 5+ years, written by other developers, is also my fault…. Going back to bed… got no time for this nonsense rambling text wall of “blame jdog for all your problems”.

of how i understand:
you/other devs have implemented numeric assets minting at zero xcp cost.
people started to use the function for the first time since its creation.
you shut the service down taking all the assets in to hostage and asked for a bribe. and since then limiting usage of people and rate limiting tokenscan and FW users

of course its not me who has FW backend and if dispenser havent triggered they should be contacting you or the mailbox at your services.

good luck

btw:

me beside opening dispenser have to do nothing.

Am i right?

or it might be the broken code where in the process i will be forced to do something and listening what other people want or rushing at pc to "make on time" with their commands?

when i say its not my fault. its a fact.

if its yours : debatable

good night.

No one shut any service down, or limited numeric devs in anyway, simply objected to their over usage of numerics by voice, and 90 to 95% of the community agreed with putting a fee on numeric.

Also, I am not to blame for the fork , nor should people be contacting me for lost funds on dispensers, as the issue was in counterpart-core, where users were unable to create dispenses due to things not functioning as they were supposed to.

Maybe take the time to actually read the release notes and understand what they mean rather than continuing with the blame J-Dog for everything rant while I sleep🤷🏻‍♂️

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/releases/tag/v10.6.0

“The bug prevents users from triggering dispensers at addresses where there have previously been closed dispensers (rather than simply re-opened dispensers).”

Pretty clear if you take the time to actually read rather than just continue to rant🤷🏻‍♂️

community? project owners!

is that community lol?

how many times you voted ? may i ask?

thats not the voting implementation i was talking about.

we have to trust voting process. sleep well

dude you are lucky you are "blamed" while you sleep because some people were accused as scammers while muted.

so yet again. dont play victim here, please

Why not ignore Stack rather than ignoring me and my comments that directly address your main issue with the update?

its more comfortable

there is more people who would not like stack than you

he knows what to pick

all this "community" has to stick with "mods" and their life view or else they are banned and muted.
and the same people who are muted/banned or dont talk are the greatest users of the network. so ironical...

if there would be voting based on assets owned , xcp size, op_returns broadcasted or any other legit form of commits and usage there would be other results i can bet.

I'll post some of my comments again. It's not much. I try to keep it concise and to the point.

Anyways, all of this over $0.40 savings to open a dispenser

I have personally helped recover well into 5-figures worth of BTC for individuals

Mostly noobs who will never use Counterparty again afterwards

Now JDog is opening the door to a big new scam

To save a handful of folk $0.40

https://j-dog.net/archive/OfficialCounterpartyChat/2023-12.html#2023-12-09

Another reminder of the fact that Dispensers killed CounterWallet. This happened before the founders were back in the picture, fyi

just as reminder of their understanding. and they let this sink in the chat. where blamed that those missing dispenses where buyers fault because they bought

lol again "rate limited" by the great devs. wanted to show messages of where they agreed that thats buyers fault. and messages got deleted.
dont expect much from such people

yet again what buyers has to do beside buying and hoping it will be as it is written on their screens? only "asking" to do something else is wrong attitude

especially when you say that this was buyers fault. and all mods let sink this to new commers stomachs without saying "hey dont blame buyers here"

it helped a lot to counterparty.

Your practice is to ban people who are angry at you and want to escalate critical issues.
And there is no way to not to be angry while communicating with such mods. or else i have to lower my IQ to get to those levels so you could understand what i say.
basically you cant even understand whos error was that or that accusation without proof is a crime and etc. simple principles of life
so how can we expect they will fix errors if they do not understand main cause of it.
also as mantioned earlier jdog front ran rarepepe card order adopting "gaps" in protocol and still winning the card with the edge ;)
there was an order , someone matched it , jdog pushed his "tx" in the front even knowing he was the LAST to buy.
what do you expect from such devs? development? they are busy applying great "functionality" and trading against you.
if someone who bought first was delayed to the next block, it was debatable, but all tx confirmed in to the same block. and jdog was LAST to broadcast. so basically he used what i see as an error of protocol to his advantage. yet again what do we expect from them?

now with all the respect. this 👆

You are so banned, how the hell are you able to type

It's 0.2 and other groups that ban people for simple comments

most of the time after writing something i have had to quit chat and rejoin not to get banned

skills

Not how it works, if ur banned you can't rejoin

yeah i bet accusation guy still not banned yet, right?

oh let me guess. jdog friend?

i said i quit not to be banned. do you listen hhaa

You keep claiming your banned, but I'm reading your words

muted/banned what ever

censored!

ok?

and its not only me. a lot users do not say a word.
and most of those who talk arent users.
as example xccer dont buy or sell xcp, means he knows shit about experience while buying it right? do i care his comments. no

So the dispenser issue happened recently right?

i was the first to call it

was muted for the hate

and thay said me "haters gonna hate"

thats exactly of what happened

When?

If someone does or does not buy any asset it implies nothing tbh

here

Did u share in 2.0 aswell

And dev chat

when devs noticed and took actions? how many btc were lost?

were all btc recovered?

thats a serious questions

or do you gave them assets on 9.6 ? 😅

not my job. you read it. you share it.
i can say.
did you asked me to share?

learn to ASK and be polite

Is a counterparty core issue no? Only stamp ninja was running 9.6 before the last 24 hours

yet i did warned on CP chat and devs could have verified of what i say and tested but more comfortable was to mute

You claim you informed first, probs didn't inform correctly, should have raised issue on guthub or directed your questions to the current devs?

i do not have to know of how to inform correctly

again its not my job

i have found time to say what i said

But then again current devs were in this chat, then left, they don't really listen to the community anyway

anything above is paid like jdogs

ok?

hour rate can be discussed

lol

its a joke but what i say

change perspective ok?

ask things. dont force or make someone to do something. ask and use word please

start from there.

"stack could you please resend this to the dev chat"

would have been ok.

I think you have benifited from mistakes of dispensers also like when a seller accidentally sells too cheap, if I'm not mistaken you refused to return due to being sellers fault?

oh by the way i am probably banned there

"for the hate"

and my form of hate is more op returns than ALL of them

losers.

who gets the most corn wins.

good luck

Yes or no?

yet again. i do not have to defend myself or waste my time. accusations has to have proof

Does anyone know who this is: 1Pokemoniohpy9zELnbSHyZu8MvoN38hbV
It seems that they did a lot of great art

if i would accuse you of 1000 crimes would you spend next 5 years defending yourself. yes or no?

That's a yes then

lol

what a brain let

listen

educate yourself

I only asked one question, never accused you of anything

i dont work for you

i dont answer questions

if you accuse me with zero proof

its a war.

But u expect answers and to be listened to

only thinking someone will spend time defending after empty accusations is wrong

you are wrong so many times...

I asked one question

i dont fucking care it can be 5 questions or half question

yet again i do not need to defend myself

thats in all the books

ok?

you have to prove

its not me who say something

so why i have to "work" securing or denying your words?

So I'm assuming it was you that scored multiple times when a seller accidentally sold at low price, rather than return like the majority of us do and have done

what a piece of shit

ok ill let mods do right thing again

period.

If it wasn't you an easy no it wasn't me will do, don't need proof just an answer lol

i dont fkin care "assuming". its bitcoin you dumb ass

spend your time

and browse the chain

and now f off

OK mate, use your time raging here instead of at the current devs

another piece of shit that can't distinguish good from bad thing to do

f off now

im serious.

if you think i care your assuming you have to f off

If you think I care about your fuck off you can go fork yourself

yet again how can i be polite and not angry when all your understanding

that after every shit said online

Seems I touched a nerve, must be some truth in what I said?

i will run browse my tx history to show something

or answer questions

what a fucked up mindset

You are the one raging

as a real degen. so now please just get the f off my face

For my 1 question lol

i dont answer questions

U can leave and take a breather

0.1 btc for a session

might do the trick

We hope that the self-imposed isolation of developers will speed up the processes)

good question, i don't know

a good moderation of the chat.

may i ask ALL the mods of why that piece of shit is still on the chat after writing that? or when you wake up from sleep will mute me to make it "easier" ?

yet again. only the understanding by them that someone has to go and defend themself after accusations is so sick that makes me vomit when i realise thats the people we trust our keys with.

message not deleted. proof havent been asked or pulled to public to grant the words. yet it sank in the chat on my name hoping its me who will do all the "job" and beg you to review? F YOU!

All the chat mods are degens that can not be trusted because they mute or attack people based on "whos friend is he" rule.
and the form of their attack is : thief, scammer and other shit just because WALLET THAT THEIR FRIEND DEVELOPED IS SHIT AND DOESNT WORK AS IT SHOULD.

and if any of you brainlets has spent time for a second to look at the chain you would have noticed that i refunded and refund everything all the time, you mfers.
it was my principle for you to understand the cause of error! and those xcp were refunded weeks ago while you talked all this time. i just told you mfer i dont answer questions for you again to understand that i have to be asked or else i might "find no time".

i checked onchain, refunded 8 days ago. so it means ALL THIS time while you was barking and i was silent - there were nobody who lost a cent with me. Seriously you can all go f yourself

whoes error? not me. not buyers. thats fact. the rest is for you to unravel

never ever again i am going to spent a minute on trying to help and warn about issues as this warning a week ago about "do not buy from dispensers if using free wallet" has resulted in them painting a thief out of me.

i warned mods. they knew whats going on. but it was very comfortable that everyone blame me so they kept me muted. what a fkin losers

Yes, please only ban other people that give accusations

there is a proof on blockchain for my accusation

I can accuse but not be accused

and it was given

thats the difference

i gave all the proof

i said when where?

proof was sent to rare pepe tarder in private

and few other highly voted people to review

So u can accuse without proof?

look fking prick

i repeat my accusation had proof!

on chain!

and i documented how he scammed me

and sent to mods

Yeah, your proof is, if you say so, we all believe you, got it!

then i came and called him a scammer and asked to ban

go and ask rarepepetrader

btw

proof is still there

on blockchain should i pull it?

i sent him 0.1 btc

plus some more.

proof will be forever there. so if you want to start this over and my proof would help to ban that "artist"

im ready.

i simply paid 0.1 to commission the artwork. he never gave me it and kept asking for more money or else he will make a meme on that asset name.

lets see that asset name btw

STACKBTC

yep all on chain. he was too dumb to understand that he never delivered the card (just ownership) even after he agreed he got paid and admitted it was such situation

holder of that asset was never me lol. its all on chain. he never delivered it. so did he scammed me out of 0.1 ? he did

I see alot of accusations without delving into each one

his main addy has my incoming 0.1 and much more on top where i was helping him

let mods post pictures

links

and i will make sure i can prove

question is , will you ban him?

or will i spend my time for nothing?

I can't ban anyone

so what do you ask from me again?

waste time?

Engaging in your rants

But have to go now now, let's do this again sometime

omg , listen F off little weasel

i have no time for you

little guy

who gets most of the corn wins. and its not look like you

so F off

Wins wat, a stack award?

the game. it called bitcoin

i am not answering anymore questions

You never answered 1 question, I don't expect answers

we getting better

soon you will understand that i dont work for you.

and its me who decide if i have to do what you tell me to do.

Soon you will understand that you need to wipe now and again

everything you do is BETA

you are always behind little weasel

go rest well

And u have pink fanny hair

i have your ass at doggy style

If you was so big you wouldn't mind refunding fees for 1 xcp

Obviously some little fees are harmful to you

i mind understanding the cause of error

because if it will not be fixed

my refund will not solve anything

Such a big player, I'm graced to be in your presence

educate yourself you peace of shait

wanna bet

give me to vote by the size

of CP interactions and lets see.

simple offer. make it fair and we will see

Let's vote if you should change your fanny hair to orange

oh thats a great meme! are you the artist?

genius.

now please go waste someone else time. because when i said they ban mute or censor people based on whos friend is he

i mean it

If that was true there wouldn't be all these trolls

true what?

that wallet trully doesnt function well?

True wat, read your own words

can you please get the f off my face. i explained clearly everything you are after. read above.

ok but since you asked me

I am nowhere near your spotty pink haired face, how about you go play with your wet minge

i did forensic on chain again

to whom im sending pictures and tx ids?

where all tx ids and shit proves

normancomics scammed me out of 0.1 btc

? any mod taking my proof

I don't want anything from you, you don't work for me

you arent mod little weasel

ok sent to Niftyboss

so now my words has proof and they will stay there

and since you asked. that person has to be banned now

or there will be another big issue

where mods cant do the right thing

Good, now your learning how to raise concerns, now go to 2.0 chat and raise funcunality of 2.0 concerns there :)

there is no please as i see

you need some time

i have faith in you

raid this onee, Kevin the COO of Ctrl_wallet playing again with Counterparty https://x.com/kevinhbeardsley/status/1851957152769831142

explanation is above, and it is explained of why they can not be trusted.

they cant distinguish good from bad.

my accusation is very simple.
he never sent me STACKBTC card, never ever. i can not show "nothing".
so my proof is on bloackchain that SATCKBTC asset was never moved to my address.
all forensic with normancomics addy and tx ids has been given to Niftyboss to review because the mods are censoring this group of me posting pictures or links.

I mean there's multiple accusations, without delving into them all

those forensics include my 0.1 btc payment sent from addy 1STACK.. to normancomics MAIN addy.

they know if i said you are the scammer means you are. period.

this was about my friends

so what about that comment ?

my friends knows he is scammer because they helped to do all the documentation of the scam

but all the proof let to nothing as the guy is still on the group, so basically we worked for free.

so what can i help beside showing proof on bitcoin?

Suggests that once you call a scammer is cased closed, you are free to accuse, but if ever accused of doing something wrong, your attitude changes

wha?

case is not closed and never been

he owes me money

lol… Jesus two hours later and you’re still on your tirade….. and no one has muted you or kicked you for being very disrespectful and spamming the chat for four hours with your nonsense….. but the moderator in here are the problem because they censor people… lol. Got it.

I got better things to do than to engage with you and you’re nonstop ranting, and raving 🤷🏻‍♂️

ok censoring "on"

bye

you are 10 years on the wallet that doesnt function and cant even admit it.

That comment was not in relation to that accusation, but nvm if you can't understand me

again. fk this censoring

Once again, moderators are not deleting your chat… the anti-spam bots are seeing you as an abusive spammer since you’re just nonstop, titrating and posting nonsense, just like scammers do, and so the bot is deleting your comments🤷🏻‍♂️

Maybe slow down, gather your thoughts, and write what you want to say rather than just rambling on forever, bro🤷🏻‍♂️

LOL

can you repost "anti spam"

i edited old message and it still vanished

how that was taken as spam? if it was already there?

i will ramble as long as i need to help my 0.1 find home

more than two years it have been like this. so me after 2 years escalating this with doggy style request isnt that frequent

Please continue

oh wow! it took you two hours to learn word please

And you still only have negative words for me, let's see how long it takes

im not going to entertain you. i said what i wanted. just of you thinking i did something bad and such makes me wanna keep you far away from me. especially when you thought its ok i have to waste my time defending myself. take care and good day to all.
ill leave the chat to avoid ban. will be back if it will get too boring without me.

Please sir, I want to be entertained