- 22 October 2024 (626 messages)
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whos error was that? -
i will keep asking until you admit the truth
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You can't trick me into agreeing with you by typing a bunch of word salad in broken english -
every wrong answer will make one of your asset to be liquidated
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Do it
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i give you a chance to improve
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whoes error was that?
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Draw succulently upon my root chakra
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I just politely told that guy to eat a dick
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It was mad classy
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founders fighting - stack scamming - just another ordinary day in counterparty 😅 -
Oh that... yeah you gotta scroll up bro...
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Just popping in to say you are all doing a great job of making Counterparty feel like a place I want to spend my time
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I'm sure the masses are so excited to interact too
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Which is fine but Core Devs have a conflict of interest against current tooling that supports an overwhelming majority of the community. So intentionally making things harder for competing wallets banning other devs does not seem in the best interest of the community. -
Will UL ask the current VC's if they are ok being named in the interest of transparency? You can at least ask
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So there are two different potential conflicts of interest that I (Adam) see. The first is the possibility of supporting Unspendable Labs' business over the interests of the community (e.g. Horizon Wallet + Explorer over other wallets and explorers). The second is that the entities funding the company Unspendable Labs could push the protocol development in a way that favors their own interests.
The second question is easy to answer: the existing funding for UL comes 100% from (1) myself, (2) the Bitcoin Frontier Fund (who have made their investment public), and (3) close friends and family (whose names I won't disclose)
The first question is harder to answer. Yes, there's a potential conflict of interest. It's possible that I personally could push to change the protocol in a way that favors the UL business. That's possible in any case where someone who leads development of a community project also runs a business that makes use of that project. All I can really say here that UL and I are much more incentivized to make Counterparty successful than to increase UL's short-term revenue. That's why 100% of Counterparty development is done out in the open, including all issue tracking and prioritization, and why Horizon Wallet is fully open-source. -
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Adam has answered the question in his new channel. Forwarding here. Also unpinning the question n adding Adam back as admin. Thx for the transparency finally. 👍🏻
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And we all know this sock person durrrr is all keyboard warrior
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FYI.. tried to add @teysol back as admin but he already left the group🤷🏻♂️
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Here are the remaining admins in case anyone needs an admin to moderate / remove spam, etc 👍🏻
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Na don’t want to meet you
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Can you remove the "No Chinese Bot" robot? It will accidentally kill many real Chinese users (I was accidentally killed by it a few days ago).🥲 -
Make sure on the latest release 0.9.37 which was released last night, and reset server settings to default.
Also ask if she used the “send funds” form or bought direct from a dispenser on the “dispensers” tab.👍🏻 -
Done👍🏻
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she send all ok
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Dispenser closes 5 blocks after close tx confirms…. Pending dispenses never kept the dispenser open.
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Tattoo time 👍🏻
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My fairminter remains open even though it's minted out. How does that work? I want to add the picture.. -
Noticed this on freewallet. It should work using Horizon. I did this very thing -
Even MINTS is still marked as open
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Tokenscan may see the update as invalid as it thinks the fair mint is still open but horizon will show your image if you make the update
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I just show the status value from the fairminters table🤷🏻♂️
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I tried changing description on horizon wallet too
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Getting reports that the “auto detect a btc send to a dispenser address n convert to a dispese tx” not working as promised in counterparty-core API…. Seems to be working inconsistently… so, will make updates to freewallet tonight/tomorrow to check destination address for a dispense when sending BTC n generate a dispense tx instead of a send.
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Nope… the issue is some btc sends to dispensers are JUST sending btc n not including the op_return output with the dispense method… all I can do is make updates to freewallet to not rely on the “auto-convert btc send to dispense message” in the counterparty-core APIs…. Won’t be retroactive.
Gotta love it when users losing funds due to things not working as designed/promised in the latest counterparty-core release😢 -
Try to locate the operator of the dispenser and work it out p2p. -
Counterparty upgraded, and your transaction was not detected by this new version. The “old” version did detect it:
https://www.xcp.dev/tx/90ed6af06076d34edcea2794c64b7e6d00d6921ad4065e72d2c2def318c784d3
I would remove all 100% compatibility claims everywhere, is clearly misleading to non-technical users. -
It's my dispenser I will send you the XCP. First have to close the dispenser. -
Didn't see the btc coming in on tokenscan, but is has settled. Now I have to check all open dispensers. Do you have to close and re-open all dispensers?
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No that won’t do anything
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Thanks. That saves me a lot of time
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Yup, can only create dispensers on source address now…. No more opening on empty/new addresses
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Thought u was working, plenty of time all day to troll, but zero time to prove the tx thing u said u cant do coz of work -
Adam back n admin again 👍🏻
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Your choice bro🤷🏻♂️ I simply asked questions the community wanted answers to. If you choose to leave this channel, like you’ve left other CP dev channels, that is entirely your right👍🏻
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- 23 October 2024 (68 messages)
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aa18620aff4282844a99ac5d568d36628af2fe0c290dc785aa82a5f6b7afe045
https://blockstream.info/tx/aa18620aff4282844a99ac5d568d36628af2fe0c290dc785aa82a5f6b7afe045Blockstream Block ExplorerBlockstream Explorer is an open source block explorer providing detailed blockchain data across Bitcoin, Testnet, and Liquid. Supports Tor and tracking-free.
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This was unconfirmed then just disappeared??? I never got my 20 XCP? Thoughts
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What type of tx was this? Doesn’t appear to be a dispense tx (those have 1 address output, 1 op_return output, and 1 change output…. This only has an op_return n change, so not a new or old dispense… what wallet? What action were u performing?
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Tattoo update👍🏻
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The dispenser didn't work so he sent them to me. That was the tx from the send
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Then it just disappeared
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Tx is for send if 20 XCP.
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But they never showed up
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Exactly
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This transaction shows up on xcp.dev, UL explorer, and tokenscan….
When the transaction goes from a pending state to being confirmed in a block, it can disappear from the Explorer for a minute or two while the block is being processed -
It says insufficient funds??
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What do I do??
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The status of the transaction was a fail…. The person tried to send you 20 XCP, but by the time the transaction confirmed and a block that 20 XCP had already been sent elsewhere…. It appears as if counterparty is acting normally in this case.
What do you do? You show this transaction to the person who tried to send you 20 XCP and let them know that you never received it because it never transferred out of their wallet to yours. -
very dope tatt
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hi there, do you have any idea to fix this error please? -
Wait a little, that's often when the API isn't up to the last block -
Your fav alternative to tokenscan? -
I guess you too are all typing and no action. However I do owe you some love for the years of personal attention
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STFU
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We all want counterparty to be strong
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this 💯🙏
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🤗
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Goodbye Rug-spencers!
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This -
Miners really happy with this tx lol I put 50.000 instead 5.000 of fee 😂😂
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So 36$ instead 3.6$
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Good thing I didn’t broadcast, you would have front run me by a mile.
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but at least you wouldnt have lost funds
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True true
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Despite all market is so red rn -
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Son itll be Green, It allways has been
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gm fren -
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Just wanted to let everybody know the guy that I purchased 20 xcp from yesterday when dispensers were fukt held true to his word and sent me the xcp. on that note I can also see his dilemma with smaller purchases and how high fees were so I'm not quite sure how that works out for everybody. but I just wanted to let you all know 🐸🪖🙏
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And he paid out all the small orders too. Ate the fees to make things right
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@stackbtc
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Humbled that I'm even in this circle. 🐸🪖🙏 -
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And twenty XCP is damn near equal to muh weekly pay in the "real" world.
Muh herbal therapy keeps muh beard from catching fire.
Everyone have unshakable Faith.
We winning -
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Right!?!
I was just talking about that this morning that that card was able to get rolled out with no dispensers went through the first 41 of them in 8 hrs 🤯 -
Glad to hear that... Now he just needs to work on his "I am smarter than everyone... so fuck you" attitude. Glad he decided to do the right thing and not keep user funds.
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I had to close the dispenser.
Glad I was paying attention. -
I caught it after 2 of the last three got corn sent for them.
Once the dispensers are fixed I am going to put 1 on dispenser. That will be the last one I will let go till the habbening. 👀⚡ -
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- 24 October 2024 (54 messages)
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FYI... Users are no longer able to send MPMA sends with multiple memos. I brought this issue up in the CP dev channel, and was immediately told I was playing games, and my issue was closed a few minutes later. Even tho MPMA sends were able to have a custom memo for every send in the past, apparently that is no longer the case going forward... sorry if some feel this is "trolling"... I'm simply explaining why users will no longer be able to send memos in MPMA sends... because it is broken / limited on the protocol level by the current devs.
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MPMA Send unable to send multiple memos · Issue #2568 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
Traditionally, MPMA Sends have allowed for a optional per-line memo, which can be either hex or not on a per-send basis. According to the new /v2/ API docs, and the response from the /address/<a...
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FYI... this should be fixed now... as I said, tokenscan.io was just showing the information that was in the CP database status field... in the 10.5 update, the core devs fixed things so that now fairminters status is updated when the mint reaches the hard_cap👍️️️️️️
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FYI... In my attempts to update FreeWallet to generate dispense transactions directly (since the auto-convert BTC send to dispense message is not working consistently), I have found yet another error
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Nonsense errors when trying to create `dispense` transaction for an open dispenser · Issue #2571 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
Since dispensers have been changed to require a dispense message to trigger a dispense instead of a normal BTC send, the feature of automatically detecting a BTC send to an address with an open dis...
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I am sharing this issue here, as I feel it is worth sharing, and it is stopping users from being able to generate dispense transactions to buy from dispensers.
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FYI... yet another issue in counterparty-core 10.5 which prevents the generation of dispense transactions. I hope the devs take this matter seriously, as it is preventing users from using dispeners
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is there a horizen desktop wallet? -
or only web for now?
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Not yet. There should be a web extension soon from what I heard
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ty man :D
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Looks like a unit display problem
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ok thats fantastic
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the team now needs to make some marketing !
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and let some influencers jump on board to let everyone know about XCP!
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Counterparty deserves it !
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Pls post in FreeWallet chat n I’ll dig into it in the AM👍🏻 I fixed ur permissions so u should be able to post
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I sent btc to this dispenser, but it wasn't triggered, rekt!
https://tokenscan.io/tx/f5726faee825674551719fc53c75a5e7c3908834ff89c8b7373477fa1a19d217
if the owner of 1JsPoV5USoFM7441KtGXtvMH5ezNwq9Uak can send me 5 XCP, it would be great! -
I keep hearing reports of this… both in Horizon and FreeWallet…. I don’t think the API is consistently detecting BTC payments to addresses with dispensers and converting those sends into dispenses.
You’re about the sixth person in the last couple days to report this issue.
You might want to add your complaint/details to this issue to elevate the priority of getting this fixed https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2571#issuecomment-2434621375Nonsense errors when trying to create `dispense` transaction for an open dispenser · Issue #2571 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreSince dispensers have been changed to require a dispense message to trigger a dispense instead of a normal BTC send, the feature of automatically detecting a BTC send to an address with an open dis...
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yeah cheers
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sure!
FreeWallet Desktop 09.36
Bought from the Dispenser / XCP Tab
server settings:
API Host : tokenscan.io
API ssl : Yes
CP Host : public.tokenscan.io
CP Port: 4001
CP User: rpc
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MPMA Send unable to send multiple memos · Issue #2568 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
Traditionally, MPMA Sends have allowed for a optional per-line memo, which can be either hex or not on a per-send basis. According to the new /v2/ API docs, and the response from the /address/<a...
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FYI... Core devs telling me I am mistaken and Counterparty never had support for multiple memos... and me pointing to 25+ transactions with multiple memos, and providing a link to view the multiple-memo sends in their own explorer.
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yes
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That’s great! Do you know of any tools for creating such sub-assets?
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Horizon wallet
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btw, can also do named sub-assets on numerics. No XCP fee.
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Should I simply type number.number into the Token name field when issuing and it will work?
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On horizon there are 3 dots next to the assets. Click that and pick Issue Sub-asset
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Tried dm but not a premium user.
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Haven’t tried it myself. Would probably just refer you to the documentation
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10 year old wallet woke up yesterday
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in the FW user manual it recommends to upgrade to the most recent version and to reset your server settings to default
best to ask in the FW tg chat:
https://t.me/freewallet_ioFreewallet.io ChatThis is a channel to discuss FreeWallet and ask questions and let the community answer
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When people are doing the mints, can you not have an image?
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Is there link to docs? Describing fair mints n such?
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I initially had an image with MYSTERYBOX and when I started the Fair mint, the description field got blanked (this may be resolved now). But what you could do is set the fair mint to start at a future block giving you time to add image pointer back into the description field or, otherwise, do it once the fair mint has closed.
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Fair Minting | Counterparty
Fair Minting is a process whereby users are able to “mint” tokens in a decentralized manner. One user initiates the mint (either with or without a “premint”), and then other users are able to trigger it to create tokens for themselves. Fair Minting was likely inspired by the original Counterparty Proof-of-Burn mechanism, by which users sent BTC to an unspendable address and XCP tokens were generate for them automatically.
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Thanks Mike🪖👊👊⚡🔥
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I put an image in unfairmints when it was minted out
- 25 October 2024 (18 messages)
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NEW: 🟠 Bitcoin’s Onchain Cost Basis through Time 📊
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Does an image make the cost of minting more?
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I am running the full node, but the command "kickstart" can't run -
argparse.ArgumentError: argument action: invalid choice: 'kickstart' (choose from 'start', 'reparse', 'vacuum', 'rollback', 'bootstrap', 'check-db', 'show-params')
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I refer to docs.counterparty .io/docs/basics/usage/
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No idea
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Probably not, the image goes there with a description update. That's not included when you fmint/ make a fminter.
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GM GM 🐸☀️ -
I can't even send BTC out of FreeWallet.. haven't been able to for days..
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there are other wallets you can use if you’re having issues, https://www.counterparty.io/#wallets - 26 October 2024 (44 messages)
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ikftcccxUuihv&&@@$468)(“@;(:;:)77(,,..$@!$)(?&987),::47677 -
long live fork -
PEPENEFRTITI | Series 15 Card 34
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SUPPLY 48
HOLDERS 16
DISPENSER for 0.00555 btc
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FAKEPEPESPAM
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Holders 34
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DISPENSER 0.00111 BTC a POP:
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what @carsonated said
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CLOLVIB
SUPPLY 100
HOLDERS 45
dispenser for 0.000444
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Has anyone in here installed electrum on Linux mint?
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Rocked the penguin, 🤔 but no go when double click
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used the built in dispenser within freewallet just now, it is not working. sounds like I just lost funds? -
yo I just essentially full ported and tried buying 100XCP from 1QFLJw6VEWVgmuQr2AQ6HM5E7MPLHv2HCL - had zero idea there was a dev fight going on in here. Would really appreciate it if you could send it to me, pls.
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I don’t see a dispenser at this address
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All users are strongly advised not to use FreeWallet, which has worked for years, and will release tools that work for both versions?!? However all users are advised to keep using the "Counterparty 2.0" version which has lost functionality, had lots of downtime in the past 2 weeks, put out 6 hotfix releases, and who's core developers were not transparent about VC funding until they were called out in this channel, at which point they tried to mute/ban me... and when they couldn't, they rage-quit the channel and started their own new channel.... Everyone is entitled to make their own choices on what tools they want to use.
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BTW... here is a nice little example of the crap i've been dealing with for a long time... reporting issues with counterparty-core.. and being ignored, gaslight, and told it is my fault for not finding bugs in counterparty sooner....
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core/issues/2568
I am glad that "Counterparty 2.0" is getting some new features, and hope it does well... but all these updates were rushed, were not delivered as promised to prevent loss of user funds (CP API was supposed to auto-convert BTC sends to dispenses, but that doesn't happen)....MPMA Send unable to send multiple memos · Issue #2568 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-coreTraditionally, MPMA Sends have allowed for a optional per-line memo, which can be either hex or not on a per-send basis. According to the new /v2/ API docs, and the response from the /address/<a...
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Nonsense errors when trying to create `dispense` transaction for an open dispenser · Issue #2571 · CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-core
Since dispensers have been changed to require a dispense message to trigger a dispense instead of a normal BTC send, the feature of automatically detecting a BTC send to an address with an open dis...
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Here is the issue where I reported more problems to the counterparty core devs.... It should not be on me or the community to find these issues through loss of user funds... Counterparty should be more stable than this, and can be, if proper testing was done beforehand... however IMO that is not happening.
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I will be releasing tools in the next day or to to use both "Counterparty Classic (9.61.3)" and "Counterparty 2.0 (10.XX)"... users are free to use whatever version or tools they want. You don't see me advising users NOT to use Horizon, but you do strangely see the core devs attacking me personally, and telling users not to use the tools which have worked for many years on Counterparty... Maybe take a few minutes to examine the behavior of both parties before making decisions or judgement calls.
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Also.. FYI... The core devs are now personally taking out vendettas on the counterparty.io website
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FreeWallet has not released any version that doesn't work with counterparty 2.0... the only thing released now is a version which works with "Counterparty 2.0".... and yet, they have disabled the tool on the website, in an attempt to make it look like I am the bad actor... when in reality, I am simply releasing support for both ledgers. 🤷️️️️️️
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Forwarding Relevant information here. Now going back to working on coding 👍️️️️️️
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Not sure I follow. I thought you wanted to stay away from Counterparty and fully focus on BTNS and xchain platform... Why go through all those hoops?? Looks like a waste of precious time to me.
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I do wanna focus on XChain platform, and that has been my primary focus for months…. However, I still run tokenscan, and FreeWallet, which most of the counterparty community relies on to interact with counterparty..
I had hoped to just be able to make some simple tweaks to tokenscan and FreeWallet to support 10.XX and then be able to get back to work on XChain platform…. However, it is now been 2+ weeks of nonstop work tryiing to update things to work with 10.X…. I am constantly having users complain about new issues with things not working, lost functionality, lost funds, and confusion.
I want users to be able to have a Wallet, which they can interact with counterparty in a reliable way, as has been the case for many .years.
unfortunately, due to the mismanagement, lack of testing, constant counterparty-core “emergency” hotfix updates (6+ releases), and loss of functionality on “Counterparty 2.0”, this seems impossible on 10.XX+
Over the last two weeks I’ve been constantly making changes to try to support 10.XX and finding lots of issues which I’ve been reporting to the core devs. Unfortunately, during that time, the ledgers have diverged, as a number of wallets, explorers, and tools have failed to update to 10.XX.
While it is a bit more work for me in the short term to support two different versions of everything, I feel it is in the best interest of the community to do so, and just let people use whatever version they want….. and I can get back to focusing on XChain platform. 👍🏻 -
Xcp.dev and xcp.ninja explorers are on 9.61.3… and users continue to generate transactions on 9.61.3 via the xcp.ninja wallet (https://wallet.xcp.ninja/)
As I’ve said, I did my best to avoid a fork, and stay on only the “counterparty 2.0” version, and that has been the only version that my explorer and wallet have supported for multiple weeks.
However, in spite of my efforts to avoid a ledger fork, it has happened anyway, and the best thing going forward is to simply show data from both versions of counterparty, and let users choose the tools and version of counterparty that they want to use. -
FYI, I removed Vector's permissions to post here for a week, as he continues to spam the forwarded message from Adam, which has already been posted for anyone to review, and has not been removed. 🤷️️️️️️
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He, Adam, and Dime rage-quit the channel earlier this week and started their own channel (link still here if you search for Adams last message here)... Dime and Vector have only re-joined here because they want to try and continue to control the narrative and spam comments from Adam, the counterparty core-developer, who refuses to be in this channel because he can not control it. He was never kicked, banned, or muted.... simply had his admin permissions removed for about 30 minutes after trying to kick me out... Hate drama... it is unnecessary.
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Adam's "Counterparty" group at : https://t.me/+kLyxpIWt_r4wZDcxCounterpartyAdam invites you to join this group on Telegram.
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Correct. I removed Vectors repeated spamming of the link. But i'll leave this link here, same as I left it when Adam posted it earlier this week.
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No one has to use 9.61.3.... I feel since the ledgers have diverged for well over 2 weeks, and "Counterparty 2.0" has lost functionality that many users want, that they should be given the option to choose to use the ledger and tools they want. As I stated, I'll be updating tokenscan and Freewallet to display data from both versions, and make it very clear what version your on... The only danger is replay protection, which Adam and team can easily solve by giving up the CNTRPRTY prefix and changing to 0x00... which is smaller and would reduce tx sizes (win/win for "Counterparty 2.0" users)
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cips/cip-0011.md at master · jdogresorg/cips
Counterparty Improvement Proposals. Contribute to jdogresorg/cips development by creating an account on GitHub.
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This is something suggested many years ago... I'd point you to this in the "official" counterparty CIP repos... but they were deleted by Adam months ago without conversation as he deemed them "Unnecessary".... yet another thing that has been disrespectful to the developers and community that have been here on CP for the 9+ years while him and other co-founders (except robby) were gone.
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back to coding now 🙂
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What's your tech stack (what to study) educational advice to aspiring Blockchain coders (young and old)?
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- 27 October 2024 (564 messages)
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I joined the fake counterparty group. That Adam dude isn't very cool, man
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XCP 10.6
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like nearly all services
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It's quite impossible to run the 9.x
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So what's running? 9.x?
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Rarepepewallet is running 10.6
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Only Freewallet & xcp.dev run the 9.something voluntarily. And Ninjas seems to have forgotten to update
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Is free wallet running the 9.x fork?
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So orders on free wallet are fake?
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Are we waiting on a freewallet update to be current with the 10.xx xcp?
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When's that expected?
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currently running on v10 I think? But also supporting v9 apparently
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ask in freewallet chat, I don't understand anymore what's happening with the freewallet/xchain ecosystem
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Roger that
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yup... by design.. Adam purposely renamed the counterparty-lib repo to counterparty-core, thereby breaking the ability to run fednode easily. At any rate, there are ways to run a "Counterparty Classic" 9.xx node, you can ask Juan, as he has that ability in his xcp.dev repo currently and I will shortly have the fednode functionality working again from my repos, just need a few tweaks to the various repos 🙂
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jdogresorg - Repositories
I write code, eat bacon, and love Bitcoin. jdogresorg has 38 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.
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Why would someone wanna support the fork? Are the new features coming not better than the old?
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What the hell are you talking about
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It was impossible to sync a node before they launched the new version
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My node was dead in summer 23
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And every attempt to sync it was worse and worse
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just what I said, fednode pulls from the counterparty-lib repo... Adam renamed the repo to 'counterparty-core', thereby breaking the ability for users to setup/run the "old" version of counterparty via fednode without updates.... Or did you not notice that 'counterparty-lib' repo is now named 'counterparty-core' ?
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that is unfortunate that you feel that way, as myself and juan are able to run nodes perfectly fine, and continue to do so.
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hence the need for downloading a counterparty 'bootstrap'... which I was told by Adam was horrible and should never be done... and yet, what does the current counterparty-core do? oh... it downloads a bootstrap.
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I don't know what magic you applied, but the late 2023 version of cp was horrible
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Days of synchronization without any results
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no magic, just ran the standard instructions from the fednode install fednode install base master ... one command setup all components and got things running
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Nah that didn't worked
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And now I hopefully won't have to try again
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strange it didn't work for you, wish you would have reached out and said something, cuz it worked fine on all the 10+ servers I had it running on... I'll have counterparty-classic working via fednode install shortly, feel free to test it then and let me know if you continue to have issues.
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You think Adam is here to hurt counterparty? Or doesn't know what he's doing? Honest question as it seems you are always talking negative about him
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I won't run the fork, what's the point?
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they are completely tone deaf
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spending time on stupid shit like sub assets for numerics? lol wtf is that
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No, I dont think he is here to hurt counterparty at all, I think he is here to add new features and take things forward, however that could have been done without the centralization of power, deleting 10+ years of history, changing the most popular feature that has been used to on-board users to counterparty in such a way to make CP more difficult to use. As I have said a few times, I hope the best for CP and am glad that new features are being added... but make no mistake, all these features could have been added without breaking things first (dispensers, mpma sends, etc).
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Not intersted in more back and forth here on version differences... we are where we are. PPL can make their own decisions going forward what version they want to use. I am fine with my decision. I didn't create the fork, and I tried to support the 2.0 changes, but a ledger fork resulted anyway.
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Cp v2 fixes things that I've been waiting for to really use Counterparty. And Fairmints are great
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Now off to a cold plunge and then spending the day with my son, away from this drama, then back on updates tonight. I hope you all have a great day 🙂
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What's the most popular feature Adam changed that jdog is mentioning?
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dispensers. Used to be able to send BTC to a dispenser from any wallet and have it work (great for on-boarding users)... also used to be able to open dispensers on new/empty addresses in 1 tx, and close the dispenser n return funds to origin address in 1 tx.... now it is 3txs to do the same functionality to open, and 3 tx to close and return funds..... also MPMA sends... users used to be able to do MPMA sends, with multiple memos, for way cheaper... core devs disabled P2SH encoding in favor of the much more expensive multisig encoding, and removed the ability to send multiple memos.
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100%... no desire to confuse/miselad anyone, and have not pushed any changes yet because they are not ready... and i'll be making separate wallet versions and making it easy to switch between ledgers on tokenscan.io.... it is unfortunate that the core devs decided to update counterparty.io to mark my tools as "unsafe' because they disagree with my decision...before I have made any changes (currently my stuff is only on 2.0)
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k... leaving for the day... 🙂
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But was this done to increase dispenser security? I think that rugspensers were a huge problem in CP although maybe they helped onboard. I would argue even if one had to do 5 transactions to ensure they are safe to use is better than only having to do 1 trans but having risk that you get scammed. Maybe the old way is simple and gets guys like stack rich but we need a rugproof exchange option for future growth
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The BTC send for a dispenser isn't a great feature at all, it hurt many of us
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Being unable to receive BTC when you have a dispenser open isn't a feature
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It's a bug
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So with new counterparty dispensers now take multiple transactions but are scam proof? This is a great upgrade if so imo
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Great compromise if true...but I did a small dispenser trans the other day that seemed to work like old school only 1 trans
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The rugs can still happen, someone could still close before your transaction pass
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That's why we have Atomic Swaps
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This is secure
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Ok I see
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Is atomic swaps marketplace coming? That will be huge
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Where one can trade safely
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So what's the benefit of making it multiple trans instead of 1 trans?
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you have it sir :D
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also thanks to jdog now it has all the images lost in combat with the years
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❤️
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Marketplaces* are coming. There should be probably 3 fast with firemints, rpw and horizon
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This is working for Pepe's too or only the new fairmints
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yea working for pepes too
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if you want to list your rarepepe will be great :D https://firemints.xyz/#assets/RAREPEPE
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FYI, the dispenser BTC only issue is an entirely separate issue than the loss of the origin functionality.
Could very easily solve the whole BTC only problem on dispensersby just adding their new dispense method and making it reverse compatible … users still would’ve been able to open and closed dispensers with one transaction on new addresses
However, the removal of the origin functionality is entirely separate from the BTC only send issue… so you see, it was not just changing dispensers to make them safer, it was also changing dispensers to make them more difficult to use and manage by the community.
Heading into myb Wim Hoff, cold plunge session… enjoy your day gentlemen👍🏻 -
yes now just in the asset itself page
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but will add it on the main page too
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for example pepefair has some completed traded: https://firemints.xyz/#assets/PEPEFAIR
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so you can see confirmed
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Can connect ledger here?
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you can connect it throug unisat
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unisat allows you to connect your ledger and use it in the platform
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so yes
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andd we will be integrating more functionalities in the platform :D
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Nice, it's looking good
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So if I use rpw.wtf ledger I could login with that on unisat, then use on fire mints?
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also all the atomic swaps are adding an special OP_RETURN in the transactions that allows anyone to get trading analytics of counterparty trades directly onchain
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yes
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No one gives a shit about XCP.dev
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I would need to take a look at the derivation path they’re using before I can confirm yes or no
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you can choose it when connecting to unisat i believe
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Oh nice, will look into it this week and write a quick how to wrt rpw compatibility
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Fix the fuggen dispensers
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I been rocking 30-45 min twice a day in 108-110°
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Need the cold plunge in-between
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FW runs 10.x atm - but looks like it will support both in the future - sad they put all that warning on the xcp website
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It's normal to warn. Sending user to a wallet that could be using the wrong version in a few days is risky
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im catching up now on the convo.... i have no power here. just opinion...
there is still only 1 wallet that offers ALL of xcp features... and if there is an option to use 9.6 or 10.x .... and if a user is educated why is it such a problem to offer the ability to use both?
sad that no other wallet can replace all these FW features at this time (though i know Unspendable promised they would include all of these): -
Not yet*
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Thinking that the user will be educated enough is a big if
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so in the meantime...
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A lot of people bought BCH thinking they were buying BTC
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Because of Ruger ver Bitcoin.com
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The UX needs to adapt to the user
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Not the contrary
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coming from the guy who went out of his way to volunteer to write a user manual for FW and help new users i know all about dumb users my man ....
id love for the UX to look great for a CP wallet - but in the meantime of waiting - if i want to use Dividends, or creating intricate Enhanced Asset Information (like... for example FAKEDUST), import using PK... then im still forced to use FW at this time to do so... -
its just that if xcp devs are gonna throw something most of the community uses away, theyd have something up to par with it already
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again. opinion. cant do much on my end.
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They can only do so much work, they’ve been working incredibly fast
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here's all these cool new features, heres a half baked web wallet, now get fugged 🤣
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Im simply trying to find a solution here that could work for new users and experienced ones.... what if the wallet you recommend on xcp website only forwards you to 10.x vers of FW? so no users are pushed to (possibly a separate wallet) that runs an old vers?
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just riffin here
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Yeah. Imo we need to see how FW & xchain will handle the fork (or not) before removing/adapting the alert on the website
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Yes, a clean UX needs to be here first
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and if jdog supports a fork with an entirely separate wallet, but recommends the 10.x vers and can keep it separate. would that be enough to show it on the xcp website as 'safe'?
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just askin questions.... that seems reasonable to me
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If things are kept clearly separate I think this could work
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good to know
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Did I read were forking over 23 transactions lol
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Why are we forking again
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Ok. Back to my dispenser market for PEPEFAIR 👨💻
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Tf is pepefair??
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What's it for?
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Entire fork is comical. Sure makes CP more interesting
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because xcp dot dev (Juan) is a die hard and runs 9.6 and the stamped dot ninja team (Noop) did not upgrade (even with like 6 months of advance notice)
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When do I get double of everything? Or only in some cases
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Make a fairmints market for new users
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its more sad stamped dot ninja didnt upgrade.... confuses me why ppl are mad at Jdog for giving users the choice to use 10.x or 9.6 but an entire community of stamp ppl are now f**ked when it comes to dispenser changes
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No one cares about XCP.dev lol
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i never said i cared about it, just simply answered your question
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im getting coffee
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What’s Jdog have anything to do with stamped.ninja lol
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I think that if a version is running a fork (freewalletclassic, or whatever) it will lead to scams and cause fud. Going to cause a huge mess in a small niche community and hurt any idea of growth moving forward. We all should be working to remove confusion and not forking at all. -
100% it will cause loss of funds and lots of pissed off people
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Not to people here, but the occasional user
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this 💯
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When you say we, what can we do?
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New devs couldn’t handle the real consensus room (this one) so they left and made their own like whiny little bitches
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On my part as someone who has helps a lot of people it make sure they understand the lay of the land. This is hard enough without a fork.
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Founders and I view it like they said they are not negotiating
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Covfefe timestamp 👀🤯
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highly underestimated J & J FAFO
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Posted the meme at 10:35
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Timestamp 👀 kek
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This ridiculous fork should not be legitimized by anyone.
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It could become a legitimacy problem for cp overall since consensus works so differently for us.
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I guess that depends on your perspective.
Changes were made to counterparty, which added some functionality, but also lost a great deal of functionality which users rely on. As a result, there has been many problems with the new version of counterparty and the ledgers have diverged for over two weeks now.
Historically, when a new version of software is released with a protocol change, that version is called the “fork”
With counterparty, it has all been held together in the past by everybody, agreeing on changes and agreeing to upgrade to the latest version of counterparty in order to maintain one consistent ledger.
Unfortunately, with the counterparty 2.0 update which was put out by the new core devs, it included controversial changes, and bugs, and protocol changes, that have resulted in two different ledgers.
What I am referring to now as “counterparty classic” is simply the older version of counterparty 9.61.3, which has been running for many years, all the way up until two weeks ago.
What most are referring to already as “ counterparty 2.0” is the new version that was released a couple weeks ago, which includes additional features like fair minting, atomic swaps, etc.
It is unfortunate that there are now two ledgers, but this is the reality of the situation. The main concern should be that the new version of counterparty “counterparty 2.0”, does not have what is called replay protection, which means that any transactions on “counterparty classic” could also be seen as valid transactions on “counterparty 2.0”, adding to even more confusion.
A simple solution to this issue would be for the new “ counterparty 2.0” developers to change the prefix which is used in counterparty transactions, so that their version of counterparty generates transactions with a different prefix, in order to add replay protection.
A simple change of the transaction prefix from CNTRPRTY to CP2 would add replay protection AND reduce transaction sizes, making “ counterparty 2.0” transactions smaller and cheaper👍🏻 -
I don’t see any demand for cp classic
Is there a bunch of people that want this? -
Kinda remind me of Eth Classic and Ethereum. One chain is dead, but it's "the true chain"
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Like other forks, do we now have cp 2.0 assets and also equivalent classic assets?
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Yes, of course… the ledger is the exact same right up until block 866000 where counterparty 2.0 and active and started generating transactions.
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Are the assets and tokens on tokenscan 2.0 or classic?
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And if you had something listed or in a dispenser pre fork, and it's bought now do they get both assets or only classic or only 2.0?
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I’m sorry you have that view… ass has been said here quite a few times by a number of people they’re frustrated with the new version of counterparty, with the changes to dispensers that make things more expensive and more difficult to use and manage, and with the general attitude of the new core, developers.
As I said earlier, I’m not here to advocate for one version or the other . I did my best to support counterparty 2.0 with my Explorer and wallet, but the ledgers have been diverging for 2+ weeks despite my efforts to avoid that.
Providing tools to users to view data on both ledger and tools to interact with the ledger of their choice is the most logical step moving forward. -
Yes
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It depends on how you buy it… if you just do a normal BTC send, you get the dispense triggered on classic only.
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Just picked up my son and I’m gonna spend the day hanging out with him…. I’ll check the chat again later tonight.
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There is one version of Counterparty and it's v10. The v9 only exist because you maintain it
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So is the 298 club now the 596 club?
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True this is a very similar situation…. However, previously with Ethereum and Ethereum classic that for happened before there was much value or NFT’s on the chain.
In this instance, the NFT is exist on both chains… and Providence matters to a lot of collectors… so I think there will be a good amount of people that are only really interested in collecting tokens on the “true/original” chain….. but I could be wrong🤷🏻♂️ -
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So classic won’t get upgrades, it stays the same forever?
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We go from counterparty may die to 2 counterpartys
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I feel that’s a nuanced viewpoint as there are clearly two ledgers that exist…. Counterparty is what? the ledger, the software that created the ledger? which version.?
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so in simple terms you are forcing this due to your claim of rightness because you want to spite your face and cut off your nose. got it.
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the reason counterparty is where it is, good and bad, is jdog
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thanks for maintaining, but we the people are the owners and thanks for the options but I doubt the majority will follow you into the dark
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enjoy your time with your son!
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So classic vs 2.0, you are on board with every update or what happens if there is an update that you don’t like. Does 10.6 get a fork also?
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Nobody said that…. It would most likely continue on as the version that is driven by community., via CIP proposals, as it has for many years…. Surely a slower piece of development than the current developers, pushing tons of changes very rapidly….. but I think we’re seeing what happens when you try to force changes that many in the community disagree with, don’t do proper testing to make sure everything is backwards compatible.
I plan on just maintaining servers and wallets and explorers to allow users to continue to interact with counterparty classic …… my primary focus is on building the X chain platform… But if the counterparty classic community wants updates, it’s a decentralized community controlled project, so changes can be made if consensus can be reached -
the ex chain
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I’m sorry you hold that viewpoint… I did my best to support counterparty 2.0 for a number of weeks, but after hearing many users, complain, and the ledgers diverge drastically, I’m simply giving users a choice to view the different ledgers and interact with them.
I do find any interesting though how all the virtual is focused on me, deciding to allow users to show the different versions rather than focusing on why we have these two ledger diverging in the first place… I have not put out anything supporting counterparty classic yet, and yet the ledgers continue to divert and be different…. I guess it’s much easier to focus the anger on me and say I’m the bad guy rather than facing the reality that this could’ve been avoided if the court developers had listened to the community, not forced changes, done a lot more testing to make sure things were backwards compatible, and not try to gaslight people who brought up valid concerns about losing functionality. -
thanks! I’m driving right now and using voice to text to reply to these.. but we’re just about home and gonna start a kick ass game of Uno.
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wen unoparty?
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Can i sell some assets on 2.0 and keep them on the original chain? 🤣
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Funny, you ask that… I wrote support for counterparty on unobtainium few years ago, and set up an explorer to show the transactions… and it was named Unoparty…. Just never got around to coordinating with the obtaining devs to announce the official release of it🤷🏻♂️
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Feeling lucky?
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This is an interesting situation
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Not until the counterparty 2.0 devs‘s add replay protection…. Right now doing a transaction on either classic or counterparty 2.0 will result in the transaction being seen and processed on both ledgers.
Once the counterparty 2.0 developers, add replay protection , which is a very simple change, then you will be able to perform actions on classic and not have them affect your counterparty 2.0 assets -
Couldn’t the reverse be done also?
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You could attach your naka to a utxo and sell it on 2.0 and keep it on the old version if you're feeling scammy -
Yes, the reverse could be done, but since counterparty classic is not the fork, it is simply the old version of counterparty, it is on the developers who made the new changes to add replay protection, as that has historically been the case.
Much like when Bitcoin cash fort from Bitcoin , Bitcoin didn’t need to add replay protection, as they already existed and were the original chain… it was on the new Bitcoin cash to add replay protection to protect their users -
That’s a reverse scam
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So it really is the 596 club now?
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we gonna make it the 1490 club before this bs is over
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Feels like an airdrop 🤣
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or we could just go forward and accept that the past is the past
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Sad time tbh to have the fork and confusion happening. Cannot see any reason someone would want to use the older version. Sure the terms or what who caused the fork can be debated. The end result is going to be bad for this space.
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Thank jdog for his presidential term but accept the country has new leaders
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Users would want to use the old version simply because they can open dispensers on addresses, using one transaction and closed dispensers on addresses using one transaction…. I’m sorry that you have failed to hear that users desire this, as it has been said quite a few times over the past two weeks
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I think users, especially potential new users would like to buy using a PSBT rather than run the risk of getting rugged
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100, buyer determines market
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Dispensers were amazing while we were still a tight nit bunch and could help resolve issues
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I hear this and get all points, truly. It does not change the fact that 2 versions will cause issues 100%. Yes rollout was not great. And I agree with many of your points but would not be in favor of keeping an old version working.
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If the interest is truly in protecting the community, seems like following the historic method of the new version of software adding replay protection should be something that is done. 🤷🏻♂️
Refusal to add replay protection on the new version of counterparty simply because they don’t want to, clearly demonstrates to the community that they are more interested in being right then in protecting users from losing funds, and separating the ledgers. 🤷🏻♂️ -
but there have been serial scammers taking advantage of them
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Exactly, why would I buy from a dispenser if I still need to spend a tx
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you are basically asking for a situation where they admit they are the fork and you control the whole original network again in basic terms here, correct?
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I do not think that your intent jdog is to hurt the community. I can agree with many of your points but I do believe the idea of promoting and supporting an older version is not a great idea.
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I also think jdog isn't trying to hurt the community, but is so focused on being right that he doesn't see he is hurting the community, and that is just as bad.
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I didn’t cause the ledger fork, nor provide tools that added to it, so I am not to blame for it. You have the new counterparty 2.0 developers and their lack of proper testing and reverse compatibility to blame for the ledger differences🤷🏻♂️
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Like I said, the good and the bad are yours to claim, you did keep the lights on, but now you are trying to keep it like a motel 6 when the new owners want to make a boutique hotel
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Dispensers need to be gone or made safe or alternative popularized
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New devs have done nothing to help they deserve the blame
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Cp 2.0 is post office coin?
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Should the prefix change with every protocol upgrade then? How would replay protection be implemented?
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By working to stand up and maintain a version of the older ledger and wallet is your choice and what I think is not great idea. Yes lots of bugs and bad roll out without testing 100%
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This is a LOT like Ver and Bitcoin Cash imo
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Ver wasn't a bad guy at all
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If my concern was being right all the time, I would not have backed off the fork in January in the best interest of the community…. Nor would I have put out tools to support the new counterparty 2.0 version…
My actions have demonstrated my concern is for the community not for being right all the time 🤷🏻♂️
As I said, before, I am not to blame for the ledger differences , look inside your own house for who to blame for that👍🏻 -
But 9.x is the fork and Jdog continuing it is your decision alone
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nobody else want to supports it
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But what happens with version 11, you will upgrade from 10.6?
Or will you just shut off fw -
it’s my decision alone? That’s strange. I seem to recall xcp.dev is on 9.61.3…. As is ninja wallet in the ninja Explorer.
Keep trying to paint it as I’m the bad guy … all I’m doing is providing users with the ability to make a choice on which ledger version they want to use…. And I am not the fork, the fork is always the new version of the software or ledger -
it's not. 9.6 is the fork
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How can a predecessor be the fork?
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who me? im not the bad guy im simply providing the drugs people would get elsewhere if it weren't for me
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As I said, I want to provide tools to allow people to use whatever ledger they would like…. Right now there are only two versions of the ledger… classic and counterparty 2.0
With my tools that are on counterparty 2.0, I would continue to stay on whatever the official latest version of counterparty is.
I can’t predict a future , and there may be some changes in the future, which other developers disagree with and decide to support another ledger fork, but as I demonstrated by supporting counterparty 2.0 until 2+ weeks had passed with ledger differences, I will stay on whatever the latest version is… be at 10.5, 11, 12, wtc -
because consensus is elsewhere
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I think we had some votes here that held no authority of outcome, consensus is a nice easy word to use though
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That is great… unfortunately that doesn’t change the ledger differences or restore the lost functionality in dispensers that users want to continue using🤷🏻♂️
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im happy to vote with a node
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Regardless the new version is always the fork
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are you sure they want to continue using?
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https://firemints.xyz/ has an Atomic Swaps marketplace, and it's already filled
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